Does STANDBY mean something else in the USA vs everywhere else in the world. Shamrock 12G Heavy: 'Engine Failure! Climbing straight ahead, STANDBY!' ATC: OK cool, what did you have for breakfast? What does your wife do on a Tuesday? Are your kids into Minecraft? Are you declaring an emergency? - It's an engine failure for god's sake American controllers! - Don't flame me, this was taken directly from the CVR.
A culture clash, ATC expects an airliner in distress to visual onto the nearest runway and are preparing for an immediate visual return to the field. While a heavily procedural European airline expects to run the whole scenario to the end ( no immediate return check list here ). I make no judgment ether way , thie is just an observation.
I was an air traffic controller for 32 years. I saw many examples of poor ATC technique during critical stages of flight. Often, the well intentioned controller contributes to the complexity of the emergency situation by issuing instructions, requesting information & offering/suggesting alternatives while the aircrew is attempting to troubleshoot a malfunction. Most controllers are not pilots, do not have all the emergency information & unintentionally add complexity to the emergency. A coworker once prompted a Kingair to make a right downwind into a dead engine on takeoff ( never turn into a dead engine at low altitude & airspeed). The aircraft crashed on right downwind killing all on board.
@@conorscully7008 : It's procedure to ask the pilot if they're declaring a mayday even if one has already been broadcast. That's down to the FAA and not the ATC.
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When I say there is a problem with American ATC, this video is a perfect example
Does STANDBY mean something else in the USA vs everywhere else in the world.
Shamrock 12G Heavy: 'Engine Failure! Climbing straight ahead, STANDBY!'
ATC: OK cool, what did you have for breakfast? What does your wife do on a Tuesday? Are your kids into Minecraft? Are you declaring an emergency? - It's an engine failure for god's sake American controllers! - Don't flame me, this was taken directly from the CVR.
Stand by, for the love of God, I am trying to fly this plane
A culture clash, ATC expects an airliner in distress to visual onto the nearest runway and are preparing for an immediate visual return to the field. While a heavily procedural European airline expects to run the whole scenario to the end ( no immediate return check list here ). I make no judgment ether way , thie is just an observation.
When distress message is called everybody excluding ATC and distress aircraft should be quiet am I right?
I was an air traffic controller for 32 years. I saw many examples of poor ATC technique during critical stages of flight. Often, the well intentioned controller contributes to the complexity of the emergency situation by issuing instructions, requesting information & offering/suggesting alternatives while the aircrew is attempting to troubleshoot a malfunction. Most controllers are not pilots, do not have all the emergency information & unintentionally add complexity to the emergency. A coworker once prompted a Kingair to make a right downwind into a dead engine on takeoff ( never turn into a dead engine at low altitude & airspeed). The aircraft crashed on right downwind killing all on board.
Awful Air Traffic Controller.
Very bad ATC performance.
Exactly what is was thinking too, like Shameock12G declared Mayday and then the controller asking are you declaring an emergency? Fools.
@@conorscully7008 : It's procedure to ask the pilot if they're declaring a mayday even if one has already been broadcast. That's down to the FAA and not the ATC.