Osprey had/was changing his style. Had bulked up and said he wanted to avoid doing as much high risk wrestling because of injuries like this. Very unfortunate
Osprey has been a great story teller in the ring. He knows psychology. Kenny does too but with no one to keep him in line at aew, he gets a bit carried away with himself sometimes.
@@zakrowe1301 maybe he has been Zak. Maybe he has. I looked up "Will Ospreay promo" on TH-cam and good god I didn't last two minutes on the bloody thing. He was in a suit with the Okada guy I believe and I don't know I didn't feel it all. No oomph no getting in his face. Again another great athlete that needs some aggresive acting classes.
@@kevinchappell8770 it's sad really. I mean isn't that one of the main reasons you would love wrestling? Not just the physical side but for like the psychology stuff. I get if you're Bret Hart or something you grow up in the physical side of it that's understandable but if you have any love for the business at all you would really focus on that oomph psychology wise too.
Ric Flair can still wrestle at his age because he always protected himself. He'd bump but in a smart and safe way. Now he can still walk and even could have a decent match if he wanted to. That's the difference between someone who learned his craft and didn't do unsafe things in the ring vs. a gymnast like Osprey.
My favorite Ricochet moment was when he was in the ring surrounded by other wrestlers. He’s cutting a promo, and then proceeds to say “but I didn’t come here to talk.” Drew McIntyre instantly interrupts him by telling him “then shut up.” Best thing Ricochet has ever done in his life
Ospreay change his wrestling style after the heel turn and that was late 2020 early this year,he didn't do the sasuke special anymore but occasionally he'll do high risk move like 450s or ospreay cutter at the ring apron.Now he do more power move especially his finisher which require carry a lot of weight to his shoulder.
I find it funny that when ospreay faced Vader, Vader was 62 before he passed. He did high flying stuff when it mattered and lasted long enough to have a legacy. While Ospreay is only at 28, has done every flip he can do and doesn’t have much of a history that’ll be remembered in the next 10 years if he’s able to actually wrestle again.
@@jesusleyva4386 How could not mention McIntyre being the first British WWE Champion as a rebuttal? That actually did make national newspapers and got him nominated for the BBC Sports Personality of the year lol.
The saddest thing about Ospreay's injury, is that he stopped doing all the stupid dives and springboards because he was a heel. He started doing power moves and strikes, and that's what fucked up his neck. Not the stupid bumps. But the basic shit.
If you look back, It’s usually the basics that have resulted in the most horrific injuries. It’s just the nature of pro wrestling, wether it’s a 450 splash or a powerslam, none of it is exactly safe.
It's not like he became super jacked. He's just 210lbs ,that's not even the legit weight for a heavyweight wrestler. Usually heavyweight wrestlers start from 250lbs and upwards.
Tbh wrestling and basketball are pretty similar in terms of the way they changed over time. Back in the the 70s 80s and 90s big guys dominated. Sort of like wrestling during the time, but now the nba has gone small with faster players that can shoot. Similar to the way wrestling has changed with faster paced high impact wrestling. Not say I necessarily approve of it but things change.
@@unityofvitality-5875 True but it’s still not the same as it was. It’s many people who don’t like today’s basketball because in their mind it lacks the fundamentals that the game once had. Which reminds me of wresting and how some people don’t like it now because to them like basketball it lacks fundamentals.
@@jlnxn5374 i just sent this question in from a burner yahoo account I made ...if it makes it on air you get full co writing credit since the idea was yours Greetings here from Piggy heaven Corny. Miss Piggy is here and it truly is heaven ...she gives great snout non stop 24/7 I don't really want to leave here but I heard my girl Alexa misses me (she also gives great snout i saw it happen). Anyway any chance you can put in a good word for with Vince about Alexa doing a ressuction ceremony for me on RAW one night. All the best ,, The Ghost of Larry Steve . Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
What do Hulk, Bruno, Vader, Hansen, Austin, Rock, Dr Death, The Steiners, Ron Simmons, and Andre the Giant have in common? They all LOOK tough/dangerous. That shit matters in Pro Wrestling imo
@@bobt3024 MMA has weight classes. I dont think anyone thinks Conor McGregor could take Brock Lesnar in a fight. If you have monsters like Andre, Hogan, Stroman, and Reigns in your locker room.... It looks silly to have a guy 5'11 199 lbs with no muscles like Daniel Bryan as champ.
We're talking about the guy who almost killed himself and Marty Scurll during one match when they fell onto their heads onto the sharp edge of the ring. Not surprised one bit.
It's a real shame. Will improved considerably in recent times. His last run was mighty impressive. Less flips and shit, more genuine wrestling. What a pity this has happened to him.
I’m 28 and have nerve damage in my thoracic region that causes it to spasm uncontrollably out of nowhere, hardly any good cartilage in my left knee, and a torn ligament in my left ankle. That’s just from being a normal kid. Of course these guys are gonna fuck themselves up. It’s not ballet. These guys are stuntmen. Stunts are dangerous…if they weren’t actors would all do their own shit.
Yup! I’d add that most of the cult of cornette aren’t so much wrestling fans as fans of their imagined memories of what they imagine wrestling was 38 yrs ago.
Don't worry Jim since Will became heavyweight he hasn't done all the flips and dangerous spots like before. You really need to chech more of his matches.
@Aaron Lassiter Yeah that's bad. Will has done things way more dangerous before but since gaining more muscle he's much stronger and smarter. He still does some aerial moves but that's who he is, the aerial assassin. He's high flyer but a good one, of course not all his moves go the way they should but with Will that almost never happens. I just hope he gets better soon and give us instante classics like he always does.
Ever since Ospreay went Heavyweight, he doesn't even do flips and dives like that anymore. Hope he gets well soon. He was the Best in the World before he got hurt.
I was just waiting to see how Jim reacted to finding out they’re billing ospreay at 6’1 231 now😂😂we all know most wrestlers enhance their numbers, but he was literally billed at 5’10 3 years ago, and he’s the same height as 5’11 billed guys like Tanahashi and ibushi; he’s maybe gained 25-30 pounds from the 175 he was billed at a few years ago.
@8:27 - Since when did this heel turn into a WATCH-A-LONG? @8:51 - In case you wanna follow along with Jim: th-cam.com/video/-QtTfBiYCtM/w-d-xo.html (Best to watch open on a new tab, and mute. Sync's perfectly. 👌🏾👍🏾) EDIT: Brian's recommendation: th-cam.com/video/xIuiyypK1d8/w-d-xo.html
Cornette is being unfair on Ospreay, he has to see how he looks and works now. His matches against White, Ibushi, ZSJ and Takagi and even El Phantasmo were fantastic.
Besides, I believe this is the first time Switchblade Jay White was mentioned on your program. PLEASE MAKE MR. CORNETTE WATCH JAY WHITE HE WILL LOVE HIM PLEASE
He probably would, I agree (or Takagi, Shiozaki, Miyahara, Cobb, Giulia, Utami, Black Taurus, etc etc.) but positive enjoyment of current wrestling won’t get you a sponsorship shillin pube trimmers.
Jim really gotta watch his most recent match against Zack Sabre Jr., Shingo, or even the Wrestlekingdom match against Okada. He probably is the best in the world, and the bulk he added to his frame makes him much more credible as a star
They still think Ospreay wrestles like a Jr. Heavyweight. He stopped doing that kind of stuff almost two years now. He had great matches before the injury.
@@jaffacakes4442 I mean it should be though. It's like this because of Mexico and the idiots who can't work or have any basic wrestling ability. Ospreay is a talented wrestler.
@@locustjohn3865 There's no referees or ropes or rules in a "real fight". No intros, no timekeeper, either. No three counts, no rope breaks, no countouts, definitely no DQs. So what do you look for in wrestling, when *nothing* about it resembles what happens in a real fight, and never has?
@@locustjohn3865 I agree with you, but none of the actual fights I've seen IRL involved a Stunner or throwing someone in one direction, causing that person to run uncontrollably until they hit something. There's grey area that you just can't get rid of. But we sure as shit can trim it down.
@@locustjohn3865 I know. I'm not advocating for the silly shit.. I'm just saying that it's never gonna look truly real. Nor should it. If we wanted to see something that looked exactly like a real fight we'd probably watch UFC, not 2 guys pretending to fight for real.
Ospreay has improved leaps and bounds though, I think Jim misses that having not really watched the guy. 5 years ago Ospreay was a total meme wrestler, he was sailing around the ring like actual ballet and it looked so terrible. When he went to Japan he learned to work harder but he was still a very flippy dude. Then just a few years ago, he started working slower and more psychological. He just keeps getting better and better.
Ospreay put a lot of muscle on during the first rounds of lockdown last year. And when wrestling started up again in Japan he tuned down the gymnastics, wrestled a bit more like a heavyweight. Though the Japanese style is pretty rough to begin with. Every mainevent pushing half an hour these days.
Will Ospreay and Jay White are actually great heels, damn they are hated by the Japanese audience. The Will Ospreay vs. Shingo Takagi match was fantastic.
@@fuscinula I don't remember which video it was on. What I do remember was Jim talking about a particular match in which the wrestlers cut promos where "Nobody sounded like they were mad at each other", which led into the Hannibal impressions.
Jim Cornette's wife was booked on an outlaw mudhshow in the 90's where she performed a golden shower and a mock abortion. Jim Cornette and his wife are therefore banned from ever critiquing pro wrestling.
Even a technical 'mat wrestler' like Nigel McGuiness got injured which cut his career short. Will Cornette blame 'flippy floppy' style for that? Pro wrestlers are getting injured for the bumps they take over 200 days a year. Unless and until, we have paid offseason in pro wrestling it will not change.
Wasnt Shawn 6'1 230-240 before dropping in the 220s. I know he had acl issues too but I think Jim.was ok with him doing the flips and acrobatics back in the day
And how many acrobatic moves did Shawn did in every match compare to the number of acrobatic moves that these people do nowadays? Talking about modern wrestling, doing acrobatic moves is not really an issue, the frequency of doing those is.
@@CamSTL One dive per match, one top rope to the outside, and the top rope elbow. That was it. 3 high spots per match. That does not constitute "quite a bit", it's less than Macho Man's rate of elbow smash from the top to the outside and multiple jumps over the top rope to the outside (rather than rolling under the ropes) and often times multiple top rope elbow drops. Difference is Macho and Shawn were in full control, not just throwing their bodies around with abandon. Everybody today thinks they can be Jeff Hardy without Jeff Hardy's freakish resiliency.
@@maceomaceo11 have you actually seen osprey or anyone else from this generation do what they do? Osprey, ricochet, pac and omega are in complete control. Shawns “high flying” was never so clean.
@@zakrowe1301 the “not so clean” made it real though. Adds up to “Fatigue” or “adrenaline” in the match. A clean dive looks good on paper, but if it’s spammed in a match, just makes it look scripted with 0 psychology put into it.
My assumption is that he'd tell him to gain weight/muscle and work on selling, but other than that I'm sure he'd think he's pretty good since he's not silly and actually looks like he's having a serious contest with whoever he wrestles. He's a great technician, just needs some small polishing.
Anyone who has seen an will ospreay match knows he is top world class ever since his match with Ibushi at wrestlekingdom when he used the stiff elbow to the back of the head that fuck ibushi up he bulked up he was at the top in new japan before the injury i wish him an speedy recovery
Cornette is so quick to call wrestlers of this day small but O’spreay is bigger at 6’1 230 then both Bobby Eaton and Dennis Condrey he beloved Midnight Express 🤦🏾♂️
This stuff always amazes me and am surprised Cornette hasn't necessarily picked up on it as far as mentioning it. Omega tells you point blank its a werk with his actions YET makes this type of comment. Can't have it both ways, Twinkle.
What I’m about to say may sound cold but at the same time I don’t wish any serious damage to anyone. However maybe the best thing for the wrestling business in the long term is this current bunch of gymnastic based wrestler may actually burn themselves out very early and actual real pro wrestlers may actually surface as a result.
"he hasn't wrestled a sex toy that I know of" Yes he has that I know of, and he even lost to said sex toy, (his girlfriend, a beyond pathetic excuse for a pro wrestler)
@@sx9204 It's time for a full revamp of the company for me. B.C is played out. Most the top talent has had all their big matches against each other. The non-existent tag division. the decrepit stables. it needs to change to be appealing anymore.
Pac is definitely the best of that bunch. Evans is the invisible hand grenade guy, so he's already on Jim's shit list. Ricochet is just a taller, skinnier Will Ospreay without the dangerous spots.
I mean Ospreay hasn’t been doing flips or anything since he’s become a HW. He’s wrestling a different style where they just beat the crap out of each other. Now he’s just as big as any other HW in the world. I think these injuries are from when he was a JR hw.
"I would have had Wheeler Yuta win" Bro. Stop it. Are you trying to make the show insufferable? A guy who looks like he's a grocery store clerk, Beating Andrade, O'Reilly, Fenix, Caster, Lee, Strickland, Hobbs, etc. Horrible booking. Winner should have been Hobbs. Easy.
"Not even an insufferable twat like Kenny Omega would say something like that". That is the closest that Jim has ever come to saying something nice about him
I feel bad for Ospreay, no one deserves to be injured and lose their world title. One of Kenny's comments really cheesed me off: this guy was like "When I left Japan I told Will to step it up and fill the void!". The guy comes off as such a self aggrandizing douchebag. Can't just say "get well soon", Kenny has to felate him and get himself over as such a nice guy. And sure, you can say Kenny is in gimmick and being a heel, but that is the "get out of jail free card" nowadays: say what you like and say "Its just a prank bro!".
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Meltzer will give Brian's Omega impression 5 stars
7
@@LuchadorMasque only if Brian performed it at the Tokyo Dome
43.772 Stars actually...
Brian’s silence after the “German S&M” comment is hilarious. It’s so obvious at certain times that Brian is just like “I’m not engaging with that…”
Osprey had/was changing his style. Had bulked up and said he wanted to avoid doing as much high risk wrestling because of injuries like this. Very unfortunate
This being years AFTER he landed on his head doing the Spanish Fly on the apron like an idiot.
Serious question. Who the fuck are these stunts for?
Well it's a Little too late for that. Kevin Steen stopped doing the 450 splash when he was 20 years old.
@@MisterSchitt For People Who Are Into Stunts
@@slamhubwrestling Marko Stunt
@@lautheimpaler4686 who??
All these wrestlers should focus more on the psychology now. That's vital.
@sayvar44 character 😂🤣😂😂🤣
Osprey has been a great story teller in the ring. He knows psychology. Kenny does too but with no one to keep him in line at aew, he gets a bit carried away with himself sometimes.
@@zakrowe1301 maybe he has been Zak. Maybe he has. I looked up "Will Ospreay promo" on TH-cam and good god I didn't last two minutes on the bloody thing. He was in a suit with the Okada guy I believe and I don't know I didn't feel it all. No oomph no getting in his face. Again another great athlete that needs some aggresive acting classes.
@@kevinchappell8770 it's sad really. I mean isn't that one of the main reasons you would love wrestling? Not just the physical side but for like the psychology stuff. I get if you're Bret Hart or something you grow up in the physical side of it that's understandable but if you have any love for the business at all you would really focus on that oomph psychology wise too.
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account 🤣🤣 #BringBackWrestlingPsychology
Brian’s Kenny is too good like he is going full audio book here 😂😂
😂😂
Makes me want to smack Omega even more.
Wheres Drew Gulak with his PowerPoint presentation against high fliers and unnecessary risks?
I don't know if I'm ready to forgive the "amazing" flying Gulaks yet, but I may just look that up anyway.
If Jim watches Walter vs Osprey, we better get a lengthy review. Last, get on that!!!!!
I doubt it because it's on impact but the x division title between tjp and the walking weapon josh Alexander
@@herecomesdatrain Walters never been to impact
@@zakrowe1301 I was saying I doubt cornette watches impact but if he did he should've watched the x division match between tjp and Josh Alexander
@@herecomesdatrain
It’s not on Impact, it’s from some other indie show..
@@Krow_YTAOS lol really ok my bad bti before the impact and impact came on after that the 60 minute iron man match smh
I need to hear cornys reaction to that match because Ospray vs Walter is great
Osprey vs Mysterio was a classic. Which one got bigger pops. Osprey vs Walter was great but does it bring in attention from outsiders?
That's actually the match that introduced me to WALTER back in 2018. And oh my god, he became one of my favorites from that match alone.
@@bigflippingboss where could I find this match?
@@reggiewatts1926 In OTT's TH-cam channel. Just search up WALTER vs Will Ospreay OTT and you'll find it.
Ric Flair can still wrestle at his age because he always protected himself. He'd bump but in a smart and safe way. Now he can still walk and even could have a decent match if he wanted to. That's the difference between someone who learned his craft and didn't do unsafe things in the ring vs. a gymnast like Osprey.
This is complete facts
My favorite Ricochet moment was when he was in the ring surrounded by other wrestlers. He’s cutting a promo, and then proceeds to say “but I didn’t come here to talk.” Drew McIntyre instantly interrupts him by telling him “then shut up.” Best thing Ricochet has ever done in his life
Brian’s Kenny voice is almost better then the real thing 😂😂
😂😂
More believable than the real thing
Brian’s a fucking Savage in his own right 😂. His Lanny Poffo voice is pure gold.
The Ospreay vs Walter match is one of the best matches I've ever seen.... Deserved 5 stars for the psychology alone
Which one? ("Over the top wrestling" is the one closest to "40mins long")
Ospreay VS Shingo Takagi from NJPW Best Of The Super Junior XXVI, is AMAZING!
Walter might be the best wrestler under WWE contract. He gets it and he has it!
LOL "for the psychology"
@@abalogan I'll look for that one
Brian doing the Omega voice had me dead 🤣🤣🤣
Same 😂😂
He is getting better, still not as good as Jim thou 🤣
Got 20secs into Ospreay/Ricochet -UTTER JOKE
Jim was right about that Ricochet v Osprey match.
Ospreay change his wrestling style after the heel turn and that was late 2020 early this year,he didn't do the sasuke special anymore but occasionally he'll do high risk move like 450s or ospreay cutter at the ring apron.Now he do more power move especially his finisher which require carry a lot of weight to his shoulder.
Love Ospreays finisher
I find it funny that when ospreay faced Vader, Vader was 62 before he passed. He did high flying stuff when it mattered and lasted long enough to have a legacy. While Ospreay is only at 28, has done every flip he can do and doesn’t have much of a history that’ll be remembered in the next 10 years if he’s able to actually wrestle again.
Facts.
Being the UK's first IWGP champion is a bigger achievement than 99.999% of pro wrestlers
@@stevenman013 The .001 percent are Roman Reigns and Charlotte
@@stevenman013 Not really. I'm from the UK, most people's response to such an accolade would be "what the hell is that? Good for him I guess."
@@jesusleyva4386 How could not mention McIntyre being the first British WWE Champion as a rebuttal? That actually did make national newspapers and got him nominated for the BBC Sports Personality of the year lol.
I love Jim and Brian doing the raspy Hannibal impression "Wikipedia" sounding like he's lurking under your grandmother's window at night 😂
Ospreay looks like John Cena and Vanilla Ice had a baby
So......that's why we only see half of him.
Looks like he's selling sneakers made in a Chinese sweatshop. You can't Xi me.👋
And Bea looks like if Bayley and Shrek had a baby
Rice Rice Gravy
He wrestles that way too
The saddest thing about Ospreay's injury, is that he stopped doing all the stupid dives and springboards because he was a heel. He started doing power moves and strikes, and that's what fucked up his neck. Not the stupid bumps. But the basic shit.
If you look back, It’s usually the basics that have resulted in the most horrific injuries. It’s just the nature of pro wrestling, wether it’s a 450 splash or a powerslam, none of it is exactly safe.
Because he couldn't do the basic shit. Like all these other gymnasts.
@@AJ-xv7oh yeah he can you clown he is praised for cutting the fliply shit out that's why new Japan gave him the belt
Ospreay legit went from junior to heavyweight within like 6 months. Dudes on the gas.
It's not like he became super jacked. He's just 210lbs ,that's not even the legit weight for a heavyweight wrestler. Usually heavyweight wrestlers start from 250lbs and upwards.
@@SS-tg8lf This is Japan they’re talking about. Wrestlers are a bit smaller there
Tbh wrestling and basketball are pretty similar in terms of the way they changed over time. Back in the the 70s 80s and 90s big guys dominated. Sort of like wrestling during the time, but now the nba has gone small with faster players that can shoot. Similar to the way wrestling has changed with faster paced high impact wrestling. Not say I necessarily approve of it but things change.
@@unityofvitality-5875 True but it’s still not the same as it was. It’s many people who don’t like today’s basketball because in their mind it lacks the fundamentals that the game once had. Which reminds me of wresting and how some people don’t like it now because to them like basketball it lacks fundamentals.
*Jim...this question comes to us via twitter....from Larry Steve in Heaven*
Dude someone needs to fucking send him a question like that
That question like Larry Steve himself was delicious.
@@jlnxn5374 i just sent this question in from a burner yahoo account I made ...if it makes it on air you get full co writing credit since the idea was yours
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I don't really want to leave here but I heard my girl Alexa misses me (she also gives great snout i saw it happen).
Anyway any chance you can put in a good word for with Vince about Alexa doing a ressuction ceremony for me on RAW one night.
All the best ,,
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I shall return!
Kicking a man while he is Down? That sounds like Kenny
Get worked, mark lmao
@@matthewnewman6039
Get worked, mark lmao
I thought Omega was the one down.
@@RandalfElVikingo
He's not injured and had to vacate his World Title
@@TihetrisWeathersby I hope you weren't serious cause he wasn't 🤣🤣
All of these people shitting on Osprey's style obviously haven't seen him in the last year and a half
Exactly.
Hes toned it down a lot
Made in Japan off the apron through a table on the outside is toning it down? Damn
@@madddoggnogood1491 Sure, lol
99.9% of people haven't and I'm being generous.
@@manuelper as the op said
Those who criticize Ospreay haven't seen him since his heel turn
that omega impersonation was pretty good, not gonna lie.
What do Hulk, Bruno, Vader, Hansen, Austin, Rock, Dr Death, The Steiners, Ron Simmons, and Andre the Giant have in common?
They all LOOK tough/dangerous. That shit matters in Pro Wrestling imo
Does it though? The world of MMA has destroyed the idea that the "big guy" is the dangerous one IMHO
@@bobt3024 MMA has weight classes. I dont think anyone thinks Conor McGregor could take Brock Lesnar in a fight. If you have monsters like Andre, Hogan, Stroman, and Reigns in your locker room.... It looks silly to have a guy 5'11 199 lbs with no muscles like Daniel Bryan as champ.
The Rock looks dangerous and tough to you? FOH 🤣😂🤣😂
@@mcmaniac1000
My BJJ instructor is smaller than brian and would wrap all of them big guys up in knots and not break a sweat!
@@bobt3024 and I bet NO ONE would pay top dollar to see it. Thats life
Ospreay said years ago he was already having issues physically. He really needed to change a little earlier
Yeah he nearly killed himself with that Spanish Fly off the apron vs Marty from like 4 years ago.
We're talking about the guy who almost killed himself and Marty Scurll during one match when they fell onto their heads onto the sharp edge of the ring. Not surprised one bit.
They tried to fill Omegas shoes in the ring ...they tried to fill my mouth with an apple on the dinner table.
That impression was spot on lmao
9:26 Jim just had enough of em 🤣😂
It's a real shame. Will improved considerably in recent times. His last run was mighty impressive. Less flips and shit, more genuine wrestling. What a pity this has happened to him.
I’m 28 and have nerve damage in my thoracic region that causes it to spasm uncontrollably out of nowhere, hardly any good cartilage in my left knee, and a torn ligament in my left ankle. That’s just from being a normal kid. Of course these guys are gonna fuck themselves up.
It’s not ballet. These guys are stuntmen. Stunts are dangerous…if they weren’t actors would all do their own shit.
Jim’s criticism is not with Will Ospreay, but with whom he incorrectly imagines Will Ospreay to be.
I'd say early njpw ospreay. Iirc he didnt really like his spotfest match with ricochet
Yup! I’d add that most of the cult of cornette aren’t so much wrestling fans as fans of their imagined memories of what they imagine wrestling was 38 yrs ago.
There is no way he is 6'1" and 231. subtract about 15-20 lbs and GTFO
He's 5'10 and 215 at most. On the bright side, he's taking Jim's advice and lying upward about his size.
He was 175 until last year and put on 56 pounds of muscle.
Japanese promotions don’t tend to kayfabe wrestlers stats like that
@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 omeglul.
@@zakrowe1301 yeah that's what i figured. Got bigger but not that big.
Don't worry Jim since Will became heavyweight he hasn't done all the flips and dangerous spots like before. You really need to chech more of his matches.
@Aaron Lassiter Yeah that's bad. Will has done things way more dangerous before but since gaining more muscle he's much stronger and smarter. He still does some aerial moves but that's who he is, the aerial assassin. He's high flyer but a good one, of course not all his moves go the way they should but with Will that almost never happens. I just hope he gets better soon and give us instante classics like he always does.
Ever since Ospreay went Heavyweight, he doesn't even do flips and dives like that anymore. Hope he gets well soon. He was the Best in the World before he got hurt.
Hardly
I was just waiting to see how Jim reacted to finding out they’re billing ospreay at 6’1 231 now😂😂we all know most wrestlers enhance their numbers, but he was literally billed at 5’10 3 years ago, and he’s the same height as 5’11 billed guys like Tanahashi and ibushi; he’s maybe gained 25-30 pounds from the 175 he was billed at a few years ago.
It's such a shame Jim hasn't seen him since he's out on weight and toned it down, he'd probably love him now!
06:02 Brian really did his homework with Kenny’s voice Lmao 🤣
3:30 Brutal Jim, but the truth generally is.
@8:27 - Since when did this heel turn into a WATCH-A-LONG?
@8:51 - In case you wanna follow along with Jim:
th-cam.com/video/-QtTfBiYCtM/w-d-xo.html
(Best to watch open on a new tab, and mute. Sync's perfectly. 👌🏾👍🏾)
EDIT: Brian's recommendation:
th-cam.com/video/xIuiyypK1d8/w-d-xo.html
Will ospreay wrestles like he’s in a video game. Nothing moves and flips with no pyschology
Will Ospreay vs. WALTER in WCPW was legitimately one of my favorite Matches.
Brian 's Kenny Oliver impression is priceless 🤣
Cornette is being unfair on Ospreay, he has to see how he looks and works now. His matches against White, Ibushi, ZSJ and Takagi and even El Phantasmo were fantastic.
Mostly takagi, And white
Besides, I believe this is the first time Switchblade Jay White was mentioned on your program. PLEASE MAKE MR. CORNETTE WATCH JAY WHITE HE WILL LOVE HIM PLEASE
Jay white is such an awesome heel.
He probably would, I agree (or Takagi, Shiozaki, Miyahara, Cobb, Giulia, Utami, Black Taurus, etc etc.) but positive enjoyment of current wrestling won’t get you a sponsorship shillin pube trimmers.
Jim really gotta watch his most recent match against Zack Sabre Jr., Shingo, or even the Wrestlekingdom match against Okada. He probably is the best in the world, and the bulk he added to his frame makes him much more credible as a star
They still think Ospreay wrestles like a Jr. Heavyweight. He stopped doing that kind of stuff almost two years now. He had great matches before the injury.
@@YoursAnonymously Glad to see there are smart people in this comment section. Ospreay has had some ridiculous matches the last 2 years.
@Aaron Lassiter Cuz he was being overshadowed by Okada
The way Jim said “Wikipedia”. 🤣
Dynamite kid is still the Goat of the small wrestlers they do all this shit and can’t match his intensity
Benoit was probably closest ive seen to him in that regard.
The modern generation forgets that this form of show/job is called "wrestling/wrestler", this shit isn't wresting. That's the main problem.
You seem to think this is the professional version of amateur wrestling. (Hint - It's not.)
@@jaffacakes4442 I mean it should be though. It's like this because of Mexico and the idiots who can't work or have any basic wrestling ability. Ospreay is a talented wrestler.
@@locustjohn3865 There's no referees or ropes or rules in a "real fight". No intros, no timekeeper, either. No three counts, no rope breaks, no countouts, definitely no DQs.
So what do you look for in wrestling, when *nothing* about it resembles what happens in a real fight, and never has?
@@locustjohn3865 I agree with you, but none of the actual fights I've seen IRL involved a Stunner or throwing someone in one direction, causing that person to run uncontrollably until they hit something.
There's grey area that you just can't get rid of. But we sure as shit can trim it down.
@@locustjohn3865 I know. I'm not advocating for the silly shit.. I'm just saying that it's never gonna look truly real. Nor should it. If we wanted to see something that looked exactly like a real fight we'd probably watch UFC, not 2 guys pretending to fight for real.
Will Ospreay has talent but his career isn't going to make it to Age 35 if he keeps making unnecessary risks. 🤔
That shit was horrifying
Ospreay has improved leaps and bounds though, I think Jim misses that having not really watched the guy. 5 years ago Ospreay was a total meme wrestler, he was sailing around the ring like actual ballet and it looked so terrible. When he went to Japan he learned to work harder but he was still a very flippy dude. Then just a few years ago, he started working slower and more psychological. He just keeps getting better and better.
Good lad, I hope he can become an actual wrestler
No, he just keeps getting more and more paralyzed...
Ospreay put a lot of muscle on during the first rounds of lockdown last year. And when wrestling started up again in Japan he tuned down the gymnastics, wrestled a bit more like a heavyweight. Though the Japanese style is pretty rough to begin with. Every mainevent pushing half an hour these days.
Being half an hour has nothing to do with it . Jumping and hurting your body does
This is one of the biggest problems with New Japan and Stardom. They think long match = good match.
Will Ospreay and Jay White are actually great heels, damn they are hated by the Japanese audience. The Will Ospreay vs. Shingo Takagi match was fantastic.
Libevforbthstvqucinas a car comment from Cornette “I’ll get familiar quick” perfection 👌🏻
It's been a while since the last Hannibal impression. "Wikipediaaa..."
Do you remember in which video Brian does a dead-on impression of him? I want to hear it again.
@@fuscinula
I don't remember which video it was on. What I do remember was Jim talking about a particular match in which the wrestlers cut promos where "Nobody sounded like they were mad at each other", which led into the Hannibal impressions.
@@fuscinula it's the Eye for an eye match review for Mysterio vs Rollins
@@steveaguiar722 You, sir, just made my day. Thank you!
Jim Cornette's wife was booked on an outlaw mudhshow in the 90's where she performed a golden shower and a mock abortion. Jim Cornette and his wife are therefore banned from ever critiquing pro wrestling.
Wtf? When was this
This is a really good take Jim, Thanks!
4:20 How much does the IWGP World Heavyweight CHAMPIONSHIP weigh??
32 lbs according to my math 😆
Will Ospreay making his thumbnail debut
It’s sad because osprey was just starting to do more mat wrestling as a heel and his matches were just as good if not better in a slower paced style
Even a technical 'mat wrestler' like Nigel McGuiness got injured which cut his career short. Will Cornette blame 'flippy floppy' style for that? Pro wrestlers are getting injured for the bumps they take over 200 days a year. Unless and until, we have paid offseason in pro wrestling it will not change.
Jim should watch some Jay White matches, he would love him
Wasnt Shawn 6'1 230-240 before dropping in the 220s. I know he had acl issues too but I think Jim.was ok with him doing the flips and acrobatics back in the day
And how many acrobatic moves did Shawn did in every match compare to the number of acrobatic moves that these people do nowadays? Talking about modern wrestling, doing acrobatic moves is not really an issue, the frequency of doing those is.
@@lsj6721 quite a bit. Maybe not all the somersaults and stuff like today's wrestlers but Shawn was a daredevil
@@CamSTL One dive per match, one top rope to the outside, and the top rope elbow. That was it. 3 high spots per match. That does not constitute "quite a bit", it's less than Macho Man's rate of elbow smash from the top to the outside and multiple jumps over the top rope to the outside (rather than rolling under the ropes) and often times multiple top rope elbow drops. Difference is Macho and Shawn were in full control, not just throwing their bodies around with abandon.
Everybody today thinks they can be Jeff Hardy without Jeff Hardy's freakish resiliency.
@@maceomaceo11 have you actually seen osprey or anyone else from this generation do what they do? Osprey, ricochet, pac and omega are in complete control. Shawns “high flying” was never so clean.
@@zakrowe1301 the “not so clean” made it real though. Adds up to “Fatigue” or “adrenaline” in the match. A clean dive looks good on paper, but if it’s spammed in a match, just makes it look scripted with 0 psychology put into it.
When Corny said "floor exercise," I thought of Batista in a SummerSlam, 2004 TV spot.LOL
I'm curious what Jim thinks about Zack Sabre Jr.'s style of old-school submission wrestling.
Probably tell him to fight bryan danielson in a shoot submission match.
My assumption is that he'd tell him to gain weight/muscle and work on selling, but other than that I'm sure he'd think he's pretty good since he's not silly and actually looks like he's having a serious contest with whoever he wrestles. He's a great technician, just needs some small polishing.
@@tylerthepianoman4686 His match with walter was my favorite
I can already hear his description of ZSJ
Pale, No physic, Fishy White, Buggy wip arms, 😂😂
@@xxmarvelknightxxgaming actually, I remember one time he mentioned Zack is one of his favorite technicians in the world
That's a great Ospreay, Mr. Heckel
In football, the running quarterbacks do these amazing athletic moves but they don't last very long.
Hello darkness my old friend...
Here again
Jim should play for the Flat Earthtrotters.
They don’t call it flat earth in flat earth circles they call it a stationary plane, no your role
@@baileyslife3469 then why are they called flat earth circles? Yes my role.
@@baileyslife3469 "no" how to spell.
Brian channeled his inner Steven Seagal for that impression!!!!!!
Jim, please watch and review the Walter vs Ospreay match if its the OTT one, its fantastic!
Will Ospreys is not 61 231. That is a lie.
Anyone who has seen an will ospreay match knows he is top world class ever since his match with Ibushi at wrestlekingdom when he used the stiff elbow to the back of the head that fuck ibushi up he bulked up he was at the top in new japan before the injury i wish him an speedy recovery
You spelled "Cosplay Dancer" wrong.
I can't wait to hear Jim's opinion on Triple H burying the WWE fans.
Cornette is so quick to call wrestlers of this day small but O’spreay is bigger at 6’1 230 then both Bobby Eaton and Dennis Condrey he beloved Midnight Express 🤦🏾♂️
This stuff always amazes me and am surprised Cornette hasn't necessarily picked up on it as far as mentioning it.
Omega tells you point blank its a werk with his actions YET makes this type of comment.
Can't have it both ways, Twinkle.
What I’m about to say may sound cold but at the same time I don’t wish any serious damage to anyone. However maybe the best thing for the wrestling business in the long term is this current bunch of gymnastic based wrestler may actually burn themselves out very early and actual real pro wrestlers may actually surface as a result.
@@locustjohn3865 sadly you’re probably right.
I thought the video was on loop at 5:46
For fucks sake Jim go watch a more recent match, that Ricochet match was like 5 years ago. He has grown tremendously as a wrestler since then. FUCK!
Tony Stark Roll's Eyes >>>>> Anything David Meltzer says
MAN, CAN Y'ALL GO LIVE AND DO A WATCH A LONG TO THAT MATCH WILL VS WALTER OR RECORDD JIM WATCHING IT!
WILL and Okada was a decent one too
I thought the point of working a match was to not actually get hurt
"he hasn't wrestled a sex toy that I know of" Yes he has that I know of, and he even lost to said sex toy, (his girlfriend, a beyond pathetic excuse for a pro wrestler)
I stopped watching NJPW when they put the title on Osprey.
@@sx9204 It's time for a full revamp of the company for me. B.C is played out. Most the top talent has had all their big matches against each other. The non-existent tag division.
the decrepit stables. it needs to change to be appealing anymore.
Shingo Tagaki is the champ now. A more respected wrestler who checks all the right boxes.
Riccochet, PAC, Jack Evans, and Teddy Hart do the high-flying style better than Osprey and Omega
Pac is definitely the best of that bunch.
Evans is the invisible hand grenade guy, so he's already on Jim's shit list. Ricochet is just a taller, skinnier Will Ospreay without the dangerous spots.
@@MisterSchitt true
@@MisterSchitt it was Chuck Taylor that did the grenade
They’re all on the same level, pac might just be a touch better than the others if anything
Just the clips!
I mean Ospreay hasn’t been doing flips or anything since he’s become a HW. He’s wrestling a different style where they just beat the crap out of each other. Now he’s just as big as any other HW in the world. I think these injuries are from when he was a JR hw.
Junior heavies who transition into the heavy division tend to bulk up. Hiromu will soon as well.
@@renatocontrerasflores294 yeah he will hopefully Hiromu changes his style as well to fit the HW division.
"I would have had Wheeler Yuta win" Bro. Stop it. Are you trying to make the show insufferable? A guy who looks like he's a grocery store clerk, Beating Andrade, O'Reilly, Fenix, Caster, Lee, Strickland, Hobbs, etc. Horrible booking.
Winner should have been Hobbs. Easy.
Jim cornette representing Kentucky Colonels Jersey my home state ⛹️♂️
Did Travis mean to make Will look like a younger JBL?
There is only one Jim Cornette!
Flips aren't dangerous in pro wrestling depending on whos performing them but flips don't USUALLY belong in combat
"Not even an insufferable twat like Kenny Omega would say something like that". That is the closest that Jim has ever come to saying something nice about him
Walter vs ospreay should've lasted 5 minutes tops and Walter should've destroyed him.
Cornette first assumed Omega was doing the right thing. Such restraint if you know how he really feels about Omega.
Would be nice to hear you guys start talking about Jay White
I feel bad for Ospreay, no one deserves to be injured and lose their world title.
One of Kenny's comments really cheesed me off: this guy was like "When I left Japan I told Will to step it up and fill the void!". The guy comes off as such a self aggrandizing douchebag. Can't just say "get well soon", Kenny has to felate him and get himself over as such a nice guy.
And sure, you can say Kenny is in gimmick and being a heel, but that is the "get out of jail free card" nowadays: say what you like and say "Its just a prank bro!".