@XcuzeTheMessDeer Not to mention Tseng carries the Gaia equivalent to a 1911, although I'm pretty sure Vincent Valentine's Cerberus the most powerful handgun in-universe.
@@codylontoc8065 Yeah, Vincent's gun is probably the most powerful one, but Tseng's is a beast too. I mean, in Crisis Core there is a cutscene where he freaking one-shots two Bloodhounds while Zack chases after Genesis.
@dinorex3464 Yea, they don't talk much about the firearms of Gaia, but it's plausible to assume Shinra makes sure the Turks get nothing but the best firepower.
Kinda more excited that they added a Tseng bossfight than I am for anything else they added. That dude was always wasted potential, and also a smug prick.
Interesting! Their weaknesses are the elements that they can be compared to. Well, maybe except for Rude and Wind, but I think someone smarter than me can somehow figure out their similarity.
@@r0dders Rude's element is obviously earth in how he focuses on sheer power and defense when fighting. However, there's no Earth-aspected damage in the game despite having Quake materia. Wind is the only one left.
@@r0dders Best I can come up with is that he can be very relaxed and calm but also become a storm of brute strength and destroy almost anything in his path. You are definitely right about the comparable elements - Reno is a firebrand and can be purely malicious, Tseng is an ice cold professional, and Elena is definitely an electric personality.
Kinda funny the party doesn't have a problem with cloud murdering people 90 percent of the time but when he tries to kill the turks who arguably deserve it more than most they act all high and mighty 😂
This boss fight made me happier than anything else in this game. I didn't expect it at all. Aerith finally got to kick his ass and I love Elena's character lol
8:34 I'm calling it, we'll get a Vincent DLC that will show how this interaction played out, and how Vincent saved Tseng soon after. Rule #1 of fiction: no corpse, no death.
I mean, he does still have a gun. He seems to use the power of all the Turks. A gun like Elena, marital arts like Rude, and stunning blows like Reno. He is their boss. It makes sense that he taught them everything they know.
Waiting for this firaja song to release. Can’t believe no one has mentioned it yet. Hamauzu can be hit and miss but definitely nailed it here. Got the end game vibe mixing with turks motif p well.
@@VOXivero people have talked about hating the graphics. Or hate the whispers etc. We don't talk enough about how many more opportunities to fight the shinra members. Case in point an actual boss battle with Tseng which wasn't in original.
Rufus, Barret, dyne, Elena, tseng, rude (in the OG when he pulls his gun and shoots corneo) vincent, most of the shinra infantry, Weiss (gunblade but still a gun) Nero the sable, deepground soldiers etc.
Call me psychopathic, but seeing Elena scared for her life of a corrupted Cloud kinda fascinates me. 😌 NGL though; the fact that Tifa stopped Cloud and Barrett reminding him of their main goals just to snap him out of his insane self however just goes to show Elena owes Cloud’s friends her life. (Especially since Aerith herself expressed compassionate concern for Cloud’s mental well-being)
I think I prefer the Japanese's opening speech over the English once the fight begins, if I'm not wrong; Tseng said spare Aerith only. I always like whacking Elena. Her Japanese VA is good haha
Glad they gave tsang a fight....but Im kind of sad that they didnt give him and elana more distinguished weapons. Give that girl a whip! Toss tsang a samurai sword! Should have given rude a tonfa or something. Kinda was looking forward to seeing palmer with some kind of magicite cannon pistol...and was hoping scarlet would throw down with a cigarette wand. Meh...we all have dreams.
I always knew Tseng was strong since the original when we never saw him fight ever. We see him fight after 27 years of waiting.
He shot at Genesis in Crisis Core. That counts as fighting
@XcuzeTheMessDeer Not to mention Tseng carries the Gaia equivalent to a 1911, although I'm pretty sure Vincent Valentine's Cerberus the most powerful handgun in-universe.
@@codylontoc8065 Yeah, Vincent's gun is probably the most powerful one, but Tseng's is a beast too.
I mean, in Crisis Core there is a cutscene where he freaking one-shots two Bloodhounds while Zack chases after Genesis.
@dinorex3464 Yea, they don't talk much about the firearms of Gaia, but it's plausible to assume Shinra makes sure the Turks get nothing but the best firepower.
Kinda more excited that they added a Tseng bossfight than I am for anything else they added. That dude was always wasted potential, and also a smug prick.
A cool detail I like about the Turks fight is their weaknesses against elements.
Reno: Fire
Rude: Wind
Elena: Lightning
Tseng: Ice
The Full Turk Squad is gonna be rad in part 3.
Interesting! Their weaknesses are the elements that they can be compared to. Well, maybe except for Rude and Wind, but I think someone smarter than me can somehow figure out their similarity.
@@r0dders Rude's element is obviously earth in how he focuses on sheer power and defense when fighting. However, there's no Earth-aspected damage in the game despite having Quake materia. Wind is the only one left.
@@r0dders Best I can come up with is that he can be very relaxed and calm but also become a storm of brute strength and destroy almost anything in his path. You are definitely right about the comparable elements - Reno is a firebrand and can be purely malicious, Tseng is an ice cold professional, and Elena is definitely an electric personality.
@@chrisdaughen5257you forget that he can literally kick up a storm lol.
The Soundtrack goes hard in this fight no Cap.
YES
That's what I'm saying!
An awesome orchestral jazz track
It really gives me Xenoblade Chronicles series like vibes.
Kinda funny the party doesn't have a problem with cloud murdering people 90 percent of the time but when he tries to kill the turks who arguably deserve it more than most they act all high and mighty 😂
4:20 had me in suspense with Tseng and Elena inching closer to Yuffie during tactical mode, then dodging them by a hair!
When Tseng and Elena started hoppin, i burst out laughin
HAHAHA yeah
Elena having a pink gun with decorations is damn hilarious 😂
The boss music is so good!
*I think I know why I like it so much, it sounds a Xenoblade track*
Yea one of best In the game due that finale stage 😮
You know... I have to wonder why Tseng never fight in the OG.
Why get your hands dirty?
Sephiroth got to him first.
@@CidGuerreiro1234 They could easily rewrite it so that Tseng fight first then got stabbed later.
This boss fight made me happier than anything else in this game. I didn't expect it at all. Aerith finally got to kick his ass and I love Elena's character lol
Did anybody notice that Tseng does the pose of his original artwork just before the fight?
I really love how they improve Tifa and Aerith relation in these games.
8:34 I'm calling it, we'll get a Vincent DLC that will show how this interaction played out, and how Vincent saved Tseng soon after. Rule #1 of fiction: no corpse, no death.
Tseng saves Elena and Tseng in Advent Children to.
In the OG game if you read On the Way to a Smile Caith Sith saves Tseng not Vincent
Yuffie: Why me?!!!!!!
Me: bish, you started the commotion.
8:19 Yuffie shutting the door behind them as one last middle finger to the Turks. 😂
And then somehow Tseng teleports to the room the party just walked into lol
@@Gypsyblood777
What? You can clearly see him leaving before the ceiling collapses. Tseng arrived there before the party did.
Elena having a pink and customised handgun says so much about her character without telling nothing directly.
I love these details.
I thought Tseng would be a gunman because of Before Crisis.
I mean, he does still have a gun. He seems to use the power of all the Turks. A gun like Elena, marital arts like Rude, and stunning blows like Reno.
He is their boss. It makes sense that he taught them everything they know.
Elena's scream is something else
It’s definitely memorable
Waiting for this firaja song to release. Can’t believe no one has mentioned it yet. Hamauzu can be hit and miss but definitely nailed it here. Got the end game vibe mixing with turks motif p well.
The soundtrack goes hard no lie
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Here is the OST for the Fight
One of the fights where I dearly wished we had gotten a closer camera option (more like remake). Would've loved to see those moves close-up!
bout time Tseng got a boss battle!
Tseng boss fight ?!? He wasn't a boss in the original !
And he's a Monk class it seems
And yet people don't even enjoy moments like this in the remakes
@@Eriqzzzz Whaddya mean?
@@VOXivero people have talked about hating the graphics. Or hate the whispers etc. We don't talk enough about how many more opportunities to fight the shinra members. Case in point an actual boss battle with Tseng which wasn't in original.
@Eriqzzzz what's wrong with the graphics the only problem I see is clouds face looking weird on ps5
Cloud tried to get er done.
Imagine if Tseng is one of Zangan's student.
Dude..Tseng is faster than i thought...i knew he wasn't a pushover just because we never get to see him fight in the OG
And Tseng is another grappler. Where my gunners at? Was Vincent the only one?
Rufus
Tseng uses the pistol in the fight sparingly
Rufus, Barret, dyne, Elena, tseng, rude (in the OG when he pulls his gun and shoots corneo) vincent, most of the shinra infantry, Weiss (gunblade but still a gun) Nero the sable, deepground soldiers etc.
Call me psychopathic, but seeing Elena scared for her life of a corrupted Cloud kinda fascinates me. 😌
NGL though; the fact that Tifa stopped Cloud and Barrett reminding him of their main goals just to snap him out of his insane self however just goes to show Elena owes Cloud’s friends her life. (Especially since Aerith herself expressed compassionate concern for Cloud’s mental well-being)
I wasn't sure about elena as a turk but she grew on me
Amazing 👏
I think I prefer the Japanese's opening speech over the English once the fight begins, if I'm not wrong; Tseng said spare Aerith only. I always like whacking Elena. Her Japanese VA is good haha
Is Tifa always the one that stops Cloud regardless of who the date was with?
Two Turks, one ninja star!
Glad they gave tsang a fight....but Im kind of sad that they didnt give him and elana more distinguished weapons. Give that girl a whip! Toss tsang a samurai sword! Should have given rude a tonfa or something.
Kinda was looking forward to seeing palmer with some kind of magicite cannon pistol...and was hoping scarlet would throw down with a cigarette wand. Meh...we all have dreams.
Yeah 2024