1895 And All That: The Birth of Rugby League

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  • @nathantaitombe9497
    @nathantaitombe9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thank you to the north of England ❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 for giving my country it's national sport. Papua New Guinea the only country in the world where Rugby League is it's national sport.

    • @brandonhansen8586
      @brandonhansen8586 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel sorry for you if it’s the national sport in your country bro.

    • @nathantaitombe9497
      @nathantaitombe9497 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@brandonhansen8586 feel sorry for yourself, no need to burden yourself with getting emotional for us, lol!

    • @francissepoesepoe1807
      @francissepoesepoe1807 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brandonhansen8586 you stupid fxck! Go feel sorry for yourself!

    • @lanceMollenhauer-mf1xz
      @lanceMollenhauer-mf1xz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@brandonhansen8586 their built too hard like granite to play soccer.

    • @Cardboardbox32
      @Cardboardbox32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @nathantaitombe9497 anything us northerners could do for ya

  • @stevanroth
    @stevanroth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great vid thanks. League over union any day of the week and i'm from Birmingham.Just can't get enough of the sport. I record and watch all the super league and NRL games every week. The ultimate sport.

  • @bowlingaz
    @bowlingaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I had no idea that limited tackle football came in earlier in England than in Australia.

  • @davehenderson9368
    @davehenderson9368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I am a Yank who only recently discovered the thrill of watching a Rugby match. I am in particularly enjoying Rugby League, and this highly informative video has been so very helpful for me to understand the history of this great sport.
    Thank you so much! Highly informative and so very well presented

  • @markaddison5333
    @markaddison5333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A fellow called Henry baskerville from nz got a team together went to Australia and picked up dally messenger and someother union guys then onto England in 1907 they were called Allgolds Henry died of the flu on way home he is father of league down here .thanks 4 your video

  • @sergeapostol6726
    @sergeapostol6726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was a great video. As a Queenslander, I am a proud supporter of our “working class” Maroons. It’s good to know where the game came from. Well explained and presented.

  • @haylandbroadley7333
    @haylandbroadley7333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would choose rugby league over any other sport and i play rugby league

  • @dragoste1970
    @dragoste1970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love a good game of Rugby! I had no idea about it’s history(which is quite fascinating!) I’ll take rugby over football every time!

  • @no15minutecities
    @no15minutecities 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No much different to Jesus and His disciples vs the Pharisees. Freedom vs Establishment!

  • @DreadAnon
    @DreadAnon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10k club weewoo weewoo

  • @jamesbutler8852
    @jamesbutler8852 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @Catherine warr With regards to the limited tackle rule introduced in 1967, in Australia it is reputed that the St George Dragons that won 11 NSWRL premierships in a row between 1956 and 1966 (inclusive) were a big part of the reason to introduce the limited tackle rule. It was because St George were so good at controlling the ball and never making errors that they just wouldn't turn it over...

  • @Pstephen
    @Pstephen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We had to play Union at Garforth Comprehensive (early 70s), for fear that playing League would taint us in some way.
    My mother loved League, to the extent that she would go out and walk around the garden rather than watch, if the game was especially tense. Her disdain for Union was total; she didn't even dislike it.

  • @tiger832
    @tiger832 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Nice work. 👍Union in Australia is on its death bed. Long live Rugby League.

    • @YouChwb
      @YouChwb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Russell Packer Rugby League is the most popular winter sport in Australia. More countries are picking up the sport and it's popularity is growing. Both Rugby and Rugby League have their places in the world just like all sports.

    • @YouChwb
      @YouChwb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Russell Packer I also live in Oz and I can categorically call you out as being a lying troll.

    • @YouChwb
      @YouChwb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@Russell Packer A bit of education that will continue annoy you till your death. NSW and QLD have a combined total population of 11,916,900. Victardia, S.A. and W.A. have a combined total population of 9,667,600, which is a huge difference of over 2 million. The NRL consistently is the highest rating sport in the country. The 8 out of the 10 most watched programed on TV's history are State Of Origin matches which rate well around the country, and around the world. Did I mention that NZ have a team in our competition? You may as well add their population to the equation. Consider yourself more educated.

    • @YouChwb
      @YouChwb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Russell Packer LOL! I knew I struck a nerve. You ARE a Victardian. No wonder you're nose is out of joint. But get this, I am also am a fan of AFL..in fact zi like most sports. My team in the AFL is Hawthorn. I watch the AFL grand final especially when Roy & HG are calling the game...hopefully this year.

    • @YouChwb
      @YouChwb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Russell Packer So you follow the Gold Coast Suns. And remember, one day you'll be a "mungo"...if you're lucky enough to get that far in life if. One more thing, you do realise that the game is expanding and will be introducing more teams?

  • @williamlawless9293
    @williamlawless9293 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great Video. Part of the reason behind the split in 1895 was also because of the RFU's proposal to reverse the Burden of Proof making it so they had to prove that they were innocent of professionalism rather than the RFU needed to prove that they were guilt of this 'crime' . This would had made the environment so they could just point a finger at a player and ban the, without prove.

  • @jontyjames9121
    @jontyjames9121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never heard the History of Rugby League explained in as much detail and enjoyable as this, awesome video!

  • @no15minutecities
    @no15minutecities 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The arrogance of union will be repaid for one day.

    • @DavidGigg
      @DavidGigg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Russell Packer Can I mention Australia?

  • @Alex-jx2zp
    @Alex-jx2zp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greetings from Russia. I love RL. God bless our sport.

  • @BritGamingchanel
    @BritGamingchanel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't think me and my mates would have survived without rugby league. gave us a place to beat the shit out of each other four times a week

  • @slovakrugbyfederation2763
    @slovakrugbyfederation2763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NICE WORK, from Rugby League Slovakia

  • @christopherdale7017
    @christopherdale7017 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love both codes but due to lazy, Arrogant Union is treated like a third rate sport in Australia due to its stuiped Arrogant Board that's why I love the concept of league. You north English think you love your Rugby league but come to Queensland Australia and you will see what Rugby league means to this state especially against New South Wales. Ps I see they are trying a similar thing in the UK with a tri series between Yorkshire/Lancaster and Cumbria all the best with that I really would like to see that succeed same with the old school Kangaroos and Lions tours and on a final note more expansion of the UK Super league to the south in areas like Birmingham, Nottingham, Trent on Stoke, Cornwall,Dorset,Devon, Norwich, Ipswich, Canterbury and few clubs in Wales, Scotland and Ireland.

  • @paulprescott4904
    @paulprescott4904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I grew up in Wales and the game of Rugby union was far from being a posh game. A working class game amongst the local communities even to this the term and that’s why I think welsh rugby has close ties to the working class of the north. It was unfortunate that wales lost huge talent due the amateur of the game of players leaving up north. In England especially down south around London it somewhat is classed as posh more than working class .

    • @jpatten
      @jpatten 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CatherineWarr In the early days of the split Wales had a number of working class clubs join the RFL. However, the fear of the Welsh leaving on a larger basis terrified the RFU, so their meddling in their affairs was less than had been seen with northern clubs. It's interesting to note that in league's newer territories that the game has spread in a very different manner, with Lebanon being a prime example, where the code was introduced through universities and private schools. It will always hold onto the working class roots, but it's very much a game for all. Anyway, great work, I really enjoyed your video.

    • @dewhatwhat3033
      @dewhatwhat3033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yorkshire and Wales as country’s have a long history we’re very similar people

    • @JoTheSnoop
      @JoTheSnoop 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpatten Lebanese rugby league started up by Australians of Lebanese background.
      Lebanese-Australians are keen followers and players of rugby league, more so than most other migrant communities in Australia.

    • @ldfreitas9437
      @ldfreitas9437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same in the Limerick area of Ireland.

    • @lapalad
      @lapalad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It still had a lot of snobbery associated with it, I met David Watkins first player to captain GB and Wales in both codes and he was refused entry into Cardiff arms park when he was working for the BBC.

  • @michaelbuettner1487
    @michaelbuettner1487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow it’s miserable place over there so many grey clouds

  • @lanceMollenhauer-mf1xz
    @lanceMollenhauer-mf1xz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is the very first professional sport in the world, ever.

  • @ldfreitas9437
    @ldfreitas9437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe that it really was undemocratic of rugby union heads back when to call anyone who was injured in a game who got compensated for time off work "professionals." And on top of that, for many decades in the last century, in America, there were semi-pro teams of various sports, in the Amateur Athletic Union! Many were company teams, so workers played a sport attached to the business. Full professional teams paid players for a good part of the 20th century not enough to have to have jobs off season. That's what rugby union should have allowed, and in fact, in Japan, rugby teams were for the most part connected to companies. They should have allowed those broken time payments.

  • @smithyatbroadacres
    @smithyatbroadacres ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see greenhead park in the background

  • @roystonowl1
    @roystonowl1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A piece about Sheffield FC and the Sheffield & Hallam FA's knockout trophy wouldn't go amiss. The oldest football ground in the world is still very much in use . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandygate_(stadium)

  • @sp4263
    @sp4263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the story telling, integrating the code differences, historical socio-economic context....and the accent !

  • @tordoff80
    @tordoff80 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shame bradford no good at rugby now

  • @MrWah79
    @MrWah79 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding job, Catherine.

  • @dylancarson4538
    @dylancarson4538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    weird to hear canada as a exotic place
    It's great to hear about the history of the game I played so much

  • @canadiancontent352
    @canadiancontent352 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant from a pure union fan!

  • @leornendeealdenglisc
    @leornendeealdenglisc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow.
    Very insightful. Thanks for this.

  • @Geraint3000
    @Geraint3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great documentary. Thanks for educating us. 😀

  • @James2DaGames
    @James2DaGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job 🏉 great game

  • @keats6431
    @keats6431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video and good presenter. I'd recommend reading anything by Tony Collins on the history of the game. He's also got at least one video on YT.

  • @HannibalLekta-qg2ip
    @HannibalLekta-qg2ip หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing I've really noticed with League & Union comments, all these union fans who comment about how their sport is better blah blah blah...to the point they start getting abusive & go on these childish rants...I'm better than you..B/S

  • @derekcowley9304
    @derekcowley9304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video I enjoyed that very informative wish it was on longer 👍😃

  • @DeliaSlucutt
    @DeliaSlucutt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating! There’s a story behind everything!

  • @colinmackenzie4231
    @colinmackenzie4231 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. The real reason was they couldn't have working class men (who tended to work physical jobs and were thus usually physically stronger) beating their "betters". Insane to think even in the 1980s Union players were having to pay their own medical bills etc.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As rugby influenced American Football's development it sounds like American Football influenced Rugby League - the play of the ball sounds a lot like the lines of s scrimage.

    • @tigerwarsaw99
      @tigerwarsaw99 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting comment. Rugby League was unlimited tackle until 67 when it went to 4 tackles, basically downs, then to 6 a few years later.

    • @jamesbutler8852
      @jamesbutler8852 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@tigerwarsaw99 the story in Australia goes that the famous St George team that ruled in the 50s and 60s (11 premierships in a row) were a big part of the reason to introduce the limited tackle rule. It is no coincidence that the rule was introduced in the year after (1967) the last of their 11 in a row in 1966. It was because St George were so good at controlling the ball and never making errors that they just wouldn't turn it over...

  • @chrisa9459
    @chrisa9459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool, concise explanation.Informative too! Great job!

  • @paulbloomfield4922
    @paulbloomfield4922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this. Good to learn.

  • @lauraaaavolpato
    @lauraaaavolpato 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was awesome you should remake it and tell more info up into present day rugy leage world wide

  • @rabc
    @rabc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another very well produced video, thank you.

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NZer here - great video!
    I had no idea that football actually originated as a split from rugby! Amazing!
    Many people know about the league split but the football one - that's really interesting to learn about!
    Keep up the great work with your videos!

  • @mickt3390
    @mickt3390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see this getting reactions from other channels. I recommended this to a few reaction channels I'm subbed to ..your getting great much deserved reviews👏👏👏👏👏

  • @eightyfish
    @eightyfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great little history of league, well done :)

  • @justashortvideo7293
    @justashortvideo7293 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Long Live Rugby League 🙏🙏

  • @andrewgraham6339
    @andrewgraham6339 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It followed me!

  • @Halfbreed-ig3by
    @Halfbreed-ig3by 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video

  • @stevejones3662
    @stevejones3662 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff! Thank you.

  • @trident3057
    @trident3057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proud history of Rugby 🏉 long live rugby!
    Love from Sri Lanka ✋🏻🇱🇰

  • @samadrana6816
    @samadrana6816 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and cool video. Even though I am a football fan, I have always respected rugby for its sportsmanship and top officiating/refereeing (which is a lot better than what football has) plus some of my friends are big fans of Rugby league. I also remember playing Rugby league in year 9/10 PE and it was really fun at the time haha. It was very fascinating to hear how rooted rugby league is in the working class community from back in the day (I think I remember being taught this before in school) and the rise of professional sports from the class divide (which was interestingly similar to football as well as I watched a television show called the English Game set in the 1880s which although about football it shows how these sports teams were the life and soul of their communities). Class video! 🙏

  • @gregoryleroy5646
    @gregoryleroy5646 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed you video and keep em coming

  • @warmonger8799
    @warmonger8799 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME

  • @CAP198462
    @CAP198462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might not be exactly per the original rules, but rugby is being played in exotic lands like Arizona, in the US.

  • @geoffvincent33
    @geoffvincent33 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful!! I had to do a lot of the research you’ve done when I did my MA on the Anglo-welsh tour of Australasia in 1908. I’d forgotten so much of this, and it deserves to be remembered. If you can, look at the Athletic News and Cyclists’ Journal for 1908. There’s a fascinating expose of ‘veiled professionalism’ in British rugby at the time! The All Black tour of 1905-6 drove the Scots insane!! They couldn’t figure out how a group of New Zealand working class men could take six months off work to play if they weren’t being paid ‘under the same table’ and demanded to see the accounts of the tour for decades. There’s a fascinating history of class and attitudes in rugby to be found in the period 1880-1914. Details on request! Again, well done & many thanks!

  • @melizen2
    @melizen2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you - great stuff, and the movie clips add to your presentation - love the cap!

  • @kateotoole6690
    @kateotoole6690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s The BBC Documentary Featured At The Start?

  • @leehey7095
    @leehey7095 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think your passion for our our great sport if fantastic you are very knowledgeable

  • @Juah00
    @Juah00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comments on your previous videos I said get out there... ha. You are.

  • @mazza4190
    @mazza4190 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was very good and could easily have run longer. Thank you.

  • @bertiodvonrastenburger1129
    @bertiodvonrastenburger1129 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video, clear, concise and informative.

  • @merseydave1
    @merseydave1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this and yes it was informative ... What I fail to understand in regard to where I am from Liverpool, we do not have a Rugby League Team yet just down the road from us ... Widnes, St Helens Wigin Warrington all have R.L. teams ... I can only assume that Association Football grew and established itself very well here ... I hate everthing about the Union Code and I Love my Class, The Working Class give me R.L. any day!.

    • @sidstewart7399
      @sidstewart7399 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Strange isn't it when you realise all around Liverpool Rugby Union is thriving with clubs like..
      Liverpool St.Helens
      Sefton
      Tarleton
      Southport
      Waterloo
      Widnes
      Birkenhead
      Caldy
      Wirral
      Ormskirk
      Ellesmere port
      All posh boys?

  • @JohnnyPeacock1959
    @JohnnyPeacock1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me being a Southern based Leeds United Fan I have a lot of friends in Leeds that love Rugby League and I was surprised to see that a lot of Leeds United Fans didn't support Leeds Rhino's. They seem to support their local Rugby Clubs like a Castleford fan I had a drink with lately. He had a Leeds United shirt and Leeds United jacket and shouting about how much he hated the Rhinos. I must go to a rugby game soon.

    • @JohnnyPeacock1959
      @JohnnyPeacock1959 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yorkshire's Hidden History A lot of my Friends here in Peterborough also find it very interesting. .

  • @blackfreethinker2525
    @blackfreethinker2525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She forgot about Jamaica.
    It's more played there than in Canada.
    And also, played there by Jamaicans.

  • @mickdevlin
    @mickdevlin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoever this wonderful young woman is, I sincerely hope she continues her oral history of the game we call The Greatest. I grew up in a rugby league town, played the game quite badly, but still very much in love with everything rugby league. In the way that jazz, blues and soul were the modes of expression for poor black people in America, rugby league is a mode of expression for working-class people in the north of England. This is not a game. This is a way of life.
    For an afternoon (or increasingly at night) we're free to come together as a people on the terraces, mix in the pubs, talk about our game, watch our heroes and forget about our cares. On the pitch our best lads express themselves with a ball for our entertainment. And, as with jazz and blues players, rugby league players have to be GOOD. Very good. Otherwise? They don't eat. For the most part rugby league lads don't come from good homes, sent to a good university, train as solicitors prior to taking up their game of choice....this is all they've got to avoid walking the floor at B and Q or talking automised crap in a call centre....or in my day being sent down the pit or on shifts at Lancashire Steel, Crosfields or Pilks.
    But perhaps that's the essence of rugby league....this isn't JUST a game. For some lads it's a possibility to break the class ceiling. An opportunity to make a bit of money and earn a little notoriety at the same time. In comparison to other contact sports, if you consider the amount of injuries and pain these lads go through from amateur level to where they are........they should be on a million quid a week. Instead? A full-time contract and securing a mortgage on the back of that is a moral victory. These lads have done well........
    (although just one injury may leave them disabled and never able to work again)
    ...........to get a roof over their head, and perhaps (perhaps) provide for a reasonable future. It's safe to say that most lads playing top-level rugby league are not going to be on the board of a conglomerate when they retire. They're more likely to be emptying your bins or painting your house. Or perhaps begging a pint from you because their injuries have caught up with them and their knees have made them unemployable. Perhaps too many blows to the head when young has induced early-onset dementia. A great many of them work the doors of nightclubs. They understand violence, but they don't understand what it is to be anything other than a cash cow for directors of rugby league clubs. Sucked up, spat out, and then stood in the rain of then entrances to nightclubs at one o'clock in the morning, turning away coked-up loonies who really fancy 'emselves........and perhaps wondering to themselves just how bad life could actually be.
    Rugby league. Fookin' hell.

    • @billythedog-309
      @billythedog-309 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      l've never heard anyone ever say fooking and l'm guessing nobody else has.

    • @mickdevlin
      @mickdevlin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billythedog-309 You obviously don't live where I live then Billy

    • @billythedog-309
      @billythedog-309 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mickdevlin Which is?

  • @heaveauhu1335
    @heaveauhu1335 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great upload 👍

  • @billywood8870
    @billywood8870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good work

  • @MrDando87
    @MrDando87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this

  • @TorontoBarbell
    @TorontoBarbell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, well done!

    • @TorontoBarbell
      @TorontoBarbell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are lucky there is so much rich history, AND structures from that history, around every corner where you live.