india is a country which resembles one the most oldest and ancient civilizations of the world..it has a rich culture.. after the invasion by mughals ..india lost its identity... india is a multi cultural country...
I'm 23years old. And this video is uploaded 11 years ago. I'm thankful for all the information you collect and show the old and i want you to visit india again in 2022 and have experience what's happening here. Everything is changed and improved
indians of 70s and 80s had a very different mindset,they were more religious and strict but the new generation,we just want to study and do something for our contry,i am a hindu my other three friends are rahil khan(muslim),ajeet pal singh(sikh) and lewis(christian),and belive me,we respect and care for each other,we all visit each others house in festivals,we celebrate,diwali,eid,christmas,gurunanak jayanti and evryone is happy by doing so,india is changing drastically,in the next 10-15 years,you'll see some serious and positive changes
You are so very right, for an Indian Religion Is in house and personal, the political class starting from Neheru till today 2014, have used religion to divide for their Vote Bank Politics. Look at them and blaming the British of doing it. the same old trick of blame game.,
Well presented. India is plural society, religion is unimportant practiced at home in privacy. The economically challenged are the collective of masses that go out in processions even those include all religions. People are more concerned about maintaining peace and stability among each other and go out of the way to accommodate each other.
whatever India is today is just a fraction of what it could be, its larger strength lies in its villages, if one quarter of that over a billion people can bring India what it is today, think what will happen when its combines 1.2 billion people put the same effort.
Welcome ! Well, I do like your aggresiveness. Some of us- especially the young- OUGHT to be aggressive. However, I feel we (Indians) mainly leave a mark on the world as being brave, enduring, even ruthless when the time comes yet generally gentle in our approach -like our armies. No hard feelings. All the best ! Keep up the good work !!
Poverty is due to 800 years of foreign slavery. Before the invaders came to India ( doors opened SUFIs ) there were NO poor people in India, and Kohinoor laden India was the richest country in the world . Before the white invader came to India there was NO caste system but only Varna without conflicts .
a British person need to understand => India was under Colonial Rule for almost 200 years --British--French--Dutch--Portugal-- Why India came under Colonial rule --while China --even NEPAL-did not --is a different Story and Indians have to learn a lesson on that The Colonialists did not allow the Indians --even to make their own Sewing Needle --Safety Pin --Dacca (now in Bangala Desh) Muslin manufacturing was annihilated and Glasgow Mull was imported in India --thanks Jamshed Ji Nasserwanji TATA --india was put on Industrial Map of the World--After Independence due to Pandit Jawahar lal Nehru Vision and Efforts STEM (Science-technology-engineering and mathematics) started developing "leaps and Bounds" --FIRST TIME WHEN LOCOMOTIVE Engines in Chittaranjan--Integral Coaches in Avadi--and Penicillin in Pimpri --were manufactured every Indian was Proud --not only that we can make Sewing Needles ( Subramania Bharathi's dream) --but Rockets --Atomic Reactors --Air-Craft Carriers within 67 years--From SNAKE-CHARMING to a Successful Trip to Mars--Sooner than later we will wipe out our Poverty--Our Middle Level and Upper Level Wealthy people will increase --Tilak Maharaj--V.O.C. Pillai's' dreams will come true.
lol no. China was undivided when British came. Brits sold opium to them and when the Emperor said no, the Brits totally annihilated them. They had more men than Brits and still lost Hong Kong. Then they had to sign a peace treaty to keep the Brits at the bay. India was not at all backwards technologically. Most of the kingdoms were equipped with muskets and stuff. Infact, in rocket propulsion and some other high end engineering, we were quite ahead of time. Try reading about Mysorean rockets. The Brits copied the design and used it heavily against other European powers. You should know that India was not an isolated third world region back then. The only reason it fell to the British was because of internal strife.
@@SwapnilSemwal India had two opposite religions when the British came. The British occupied Bengal because the Hindus supported the British. Jagat Seth and Artun Petreous gave two lakhs of Rupees to Robert Clive to bring new soldiers from Madras and the commander of Siraj the subedar of Bengal were bribed with additional money coming from the Hindus. East India Company preferred the Hindus. It is the same story everywhere. In 1857 Bengalis refused to support the rebels because they were afraid that if the British get defeated it would mean the Muslims would come back to power. India before the British were not a free country; Muslims used to be the rulers. To get rid of them Hindus supported the British. China had no such problem.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv And? I never said there was no internal strife amongst Indians, nor did I say China had them. Freedom of people is not a simple term. The French fought for their independence against a French king, so did the Russians. Freedom is a very elastic term. Freedom depends upon ones perspective. A more clear term for India under British is "colony". India under British rule was a colony, but not under Muslim rule. Anyways, talking about Bengal, it contained more muslim population percentage than the region in close proximity to delhi. The british simply attacked the weakest link in the empire, as Bengal had been facing political turmoil with the nawabs gaining more autonomy and Delhi losing its grasp. British EIC preferred profit. They fought against Hindus in Delhi and against Muslims in Mysore. Bengal was the most important trade region in east India with political instability, so the British seized the opportunity. When the Muslims rebelled they used the Hindus against them, and when the Hindus rebelled, they used the Muslims. In regions such as Maharashtra where the population was almost all Hindu, they used caste divide recruiting lower castes to fight against the upper castes, symbolized by the Maratha army. They did not belong to India, hence they shared no ideology with the Indians. They could chose whichever side was favorable for them because they had no inherent representation in the Indian culture.
What he is saying is absolutely true !! I am shocked as its not that easy for any outsider to understand the complexity of India ! But this man has delivered it brilliantly.. Hats off Sir :)
respect u sir. i am an Indian and still i hadnt thought about some aspects as deeply as you have. hope all researchers cud devote as much time to their subjects as you have done. regards.
My dear Indian brethren, we are the top R&D research center in IT .. JAI HIND... 65 years of Independence .. Not even a full man's age .. Our nation be young and we sprint ahead in the future .. STEP TO STEP .. SHOULDER TO SHOULDER .. A FORCE ON THE MOVE .. OF 1.25 BILLION .. सुनो सुनो ए दुनिया वालो बुरी नजर ना हम पे डालो .. चाहे जितना जोर लगाओ IT मे सबसे आगे हो गए हिन्दुस्तानी !!!!!! Jaaaai Hind ! Hindustaaaan Zindaaabaaaad !... Love you world ! =D
As a so called upper caste Brahmin Hindu, I say more power and prestige to the so called Dalits, Scheduled Castes, Untouchables etc. Their dignity is inherent in their humanity and this was much deprived for most of their history. The greatest enemy of Hindus have been Hindus and not others. Sadly this tragic fact is still lost on Indians.
The speaker has forgotten to mention that India has inspired a lot of technological as well as intellectual upbringings. Poverty is in every country, may it be in USA, England or any other country. Its just that India doesn't have a social security that provides money from tax payers to support unemployed or jobless people. In India Darwins theory prevails, ie survival of the fitess, if ur a weakling you die else you survive. Education and intellectual upbringing is part and parcel of our tradition and custom, which should be highlighted.
as a taxpaying Indian citizen, I need to inform you that most of my taxes go to poor people. And with the new food security bill, burden on me will increase even more. Indian government uses middle class taxpaying citizens(which are less than 10% of the population) as the source of their money and power. India has the biggest social security in place.
In fact, the government provides so much subsidy for farmers, small scale industries, lower economy groups, the underprevileged, and so on, that there is always a deficit in their budget. So I do not think Indian govt. does not take care of social security. It 'is' there. Its just that it's not formalized the way it is in US, and many other countries.
No USA doesnt have poverty. It has very high standard of living and anyone below that is poor. e.g. If you are a 3 person family, you have to rent 2 bed apartment as a law! There is addiction issues because of which people cant hold jobs, which are available in plenty. Others collect unemployment checks.
jai hind india has always been vital to the world. today india is a prosperous mighty superpower, and britain is desperately looking to India for prosperous
As a matter of fact there HAVE been riots between Shiya-Sunnis in Lucknow several times. Sikhs have tried to expell non-Sikh Punjabis from Punjadb during the 1980s. Naxalites began there dirty fighting from Bengal. There HAS been too much REGIONLISM in our country and only recently (past 10 years) things have really taken upon a true national character. All the best India !!
foundation of Hindu religion were laid by men of so called "SC/ST"community.The person who composed the "Mahabharat" was son of fisherwomen.he once again contributed by composing the Entire"Vedic scripture" the bedrock of hindu philosphy.The man who composed "Ramanaya" was a Dacoit.It was Brahminic arrogance that hijacked this liberal philosphy and used it against the vrysame people who had contributed in it.Like christanity our civilization too went in "Dark Ages" and we are coming out of it.
Author forgot about immense silent unnoticed Christian contribution pre/post independence to the Indian society. Still it goes unnoticed and most of the time viewed with suspicion and in contemporary world some have made them matter of hatred.
I don't agree that foreigners are not easily assimilated in India, but yes there is a sense a suspicion especially after east India company and the constant flow of Christian missionaries even today with their idea of helping the third world. Latest example being of Mark Zukerberg. He must have improved his facebook policies............Well the british dug the pit for themselves....
Read the history of Jews in Kerala. These people came as migrants/refugees during first century even before Christianity started in the middle east because of persecution, and the kings accepted them. Some of them were later converted to Christianity by apostal Thomas. So Christianity in south India is as old as that in middle east & Europe. India is the only country that never persecuted Jews & Christians during 1st century. Very interesting history.
A comment on your statement at 26:50. Indians don't migrate to the UK because of its strict immigration policy. Language and weather are some other barriers when it comes to immigration into other parts of Europe.
There was a time, when Patrick French, was roundly panned for his historical tomes on India. But over the past two decades, commentary from foreigners is more acceptable. Mark Tully, Patrick French, William Dalrymple, Edward Luce, Daniel Lak, have all published books / commentaries on India. Incidentally, all are English / British. A parallel 'Indian' commentary, half critical / narcissistic exists... Siddhartha Deb, Akash Kapur, Anand Giridharadas, Ramchandra Guha etc.
How fast India develops during the next decade now depends on whether the people kick Congress and it's crony monarchy out. Polls seem to show a slide in their support base even in the UP-Bihar hinterland.
Hinduism is an artificial colonial construct. That said, the 'religion' is a large corpus of rites, rituals and superstitions. In contrast, Sanatana Dharma (the original corpus) was a spectrum of philosophical debates. And the 'Indian' civilization that used to be has ceased to be. It is now merely a petri dish for commercialism. In this lab-experiment / skin-graft of modernity, Indians are game to acquire any cover, that aides their material 'progress'. That is a very narrow pursuit.
Indians have moved on. True, India was a former British Colony but no point in always claiming to be a "Victim". Rather look forward for a bright Future and Economic Prosperity.
1. Inclusiveness / Diversity. Counterpoint - Diversity is a cover for laissez faire ... rules aren't enforced. 2. Flexibility Counterpoint - Flexibility is an alibi for encouraging corruption. 3. Learning / Education Counterpoint - Rote learning and credentialism. Innovation is a casualty. 4. Environmental degradation Counterpoint - Consumerism is a Western import. As is Capitalism. 5. Contradiction. Counterpoint - An excuse for maintaining the status quo. A cop-out.
A, large number of North American and European get treated for liver transplant, heart transplant and many other ailments. Though, there is poverty, slums, malnutrition in some areas. However, development in IT is tremendous. There, are both positive and negative sides.
Kohinoor diamond belongs to India Sir we just want to have what is rightfully ours not a prestige issue as western media shows it to be.all the wounds given by Britishers are still there.but our kohinoors are our people now who are working hard night and day.
You can call it any land but if someone tells me this land if only for Hindu than I just answered the question that its not. India is identity for many people who live there and for me too. I don't have sympathy towards anyone they won't need mine. I was answering "The land belongs to whom". I don't claim Jerusalem to be only my land, anyone who lives/born/native their has rights to call it his/her land. I am loyal to my country where I was born and have a right to call it mine also. Contd...
Just 11 years later, with state and central governments focused on cleaning up, India's trash problem doesn't seem so problematic. As the country gets up the ladder of income, people will put more pressure on environmentalism. That's true the whole world over. When you're poor and poorly resourced, your goal is to eat the next meal, not worry about the trash in the river, after all. Dynastic politics too has taken some major hits by the year 2022, as anybody who follows Indian politics can attest. Not saying it's totally been discarded, but certainly voters have been given better choices, and they have picked those-- over and above dynastic considerations.
You have over a billion people there. If 5% move to the US thats 50 million people. I would say that's very small. India is an awesome country just stay there. Why leave?
watched a few videos of this speaker today - after reading that he has just passed away - may his soul rest in peace. But that almost every speech has the same weepy content about india... sunilMittal(not mittle) and venkatesh the quarry slave figure in multiple ones... very troubling... before telling india/indians how we should be... such speakers should tell their own people how they should correct their own life styles... or generally keep their gyaan to themselves... no one from india goes and tells americans/europeans how they should be living... understand that in the long run it just does not matter... let it be... let people be...
The reason why its less is the values of the rupees which the government does to promote foreign business and I've seen lots of simple Indians with h tvs in huts so they can afford food but they spend it on other thing and then get the government to give them money for food etc
Sadly though, all of them are not granted that right willingly. See what happens when a poor person without connections knocks at a government office -especially at apolice station. This we MUST change !!
There is more to it than Hindu-Hindu or Hindu-Other religions ("Hinduism" is NOT a religion by the way..). Here we have REGIONALISM, politics of votes and other vested interests. This too, we MUST change.
Someone said here said China developed fast and so did Israel, leaving India still in the bullock cart age. Well, let us leave Israel out of this discussion. It is a puny little country hanging on the biceps of Uncle Sam. It may have developed but it is a security state, constantly at war with the neighbours and thinks coerction is the only way for peace. Yes, China has made a lot of progress but much of that has come from an autocratic regime that has strict control of who should live where, who should have how many children etc etc. There is tremendous environmental degradation that is happening in China due to massive shift of human capital from rural to urban centers. Many big cities in China are unlivable, covered with smog! This is their model! So, progress at what cost? In India, poverty is visible but progress happens with consensus. So, a big company wanting to mine Bauxite ore in Orissa was denied permission by the local tribals because it was considered exploitative and would lead to uprootment of their lifestyle, livelihood. Now, u may argue what kind of lifestyle they had! Well, it is up to them to decide. No outsider can tell anyone how he/ she has to live. Ultimately, we have to define what progress is. Is it the western model of consumerism that goes in the name of progress? On the question of India being in a bullock cart age, well recently India sent a GSLV rocket putting a satellite in geosynchronous orbit, joining a group of 5 other elite group of nations who can do this. This group includes China but not Israel. It has also sent a rocket on mission to Mars, called Mangalyaan. Clearly, the guy who wrote that India is in bullock cart age still is smoking some hot stuff freely available on the Afghan-Pakistan border. Or else, he is a plain moron. You make the pick.
I agree. We don't want the western meaning of progress. That meaning only means that people become slave to their base desires and slaves to corporations. I mean one look at the pathetic black Friday videos is all I need to deny that. However, we need to develop spiritually and materialistically... People need to be more spiritual aware of themselves and gain knowledge (different from education) which will enlighten them and set them free of ignorance. Sadly we are only focused on the material part.
read the UN GDP per capita stats, China was behind India till 1980 in terms of GDP per capita...but marched ahead after liberalization. But now post liberalization in 1991, we have moved swiftly and will soon leave behind both China and Israel. Infact going by the UN forecast, India will over take great britain in GDP per capita by by 2045 . You see its a race..we are long run players and life to take things easily..
The guiding torch for all that is said is due too hindu ethos that is seeped deep in the psyche of all citizens across all religious faiths. Indian muslims have learnt too to be tolerant to a larger extent After viewing popular debate on Pak tvs (courtesy you tube) I understand they are coming to senses.
Anybody watching in 2021..?? I know that you are crying, me too. I feel sad for my country how pathetic our countries conditions are. Economically socially health, political 😭😭
Why can't we call this our land.Our "karmabhoomi" is india our "punya-bhomi" is india,our identity,culture,livelihood,our holy places,our philosophy ,above all our identity were formed in India.Not like yours from "Abrahaminic religions".Your holy place and source of culture is Jerusalem & palestine,your livelihood and home "maybe" india.your sympathy for SC/ST restricted to converting them to christanity,for the political goals of Church.
Virtual extinction of tigers? Our tiger populations have come back from the brink of extinction in the 70s. Inspite of such a huge population we have actually managed to preserve most of our large mammals. And why do you think there is no central environmental policy? God knows where this is coming from. In fact we had the British mindset of looking at forests only as a resource to exploit and that was changed in the 70s when detailed environmental laws were formulated and our wildlife has actually improved since then. We have a full fledged ministry of environment and climate change with separate wings looking at environmental degradation/pollution and wildlife and forests with a strong central policy. We also have the only Green Tribunal in the world which is an independent court which has power to rule against development programmes threatening natural heritage areas. There is no country with such a high population density with so much of the large wildlife existing. It is a good lesson not a bad one. The bad lesson is that of countries like the UK or other European countries where your native wildlife is almost finished. The bad lesson is China where they have decomated their large wildlife, especially like tigers, slaughtering them for medicine.
avis119 this is because India is the largest democracy and due to this the country is more central and it concludes things such as stock shares and bonds. the other reason why I have stated this is because the government has its capital at north... that's is where all of the economic look is at even though GDP is mainly produced in the southern states which has had an affect of India's 6% increase in software markets.... if you want to argue this out or something feel free to email me :)
First off I am not anti Hindu or anti Muslim. I am arguing incorrect assumption you are making regarding India. Hindus convert themselves by various means nobody should be interested in converting them, it comes from within themselves. As far as coexistence is concerned, Hidus from North fought with Dravids and tribes and pushed them to South India and thats what you call Ramanyan so you didn't live in peace with Hindus as well since ages. Even today you don't live in peace with Hindus. Contd...
Check your facts.....Mughals, Portuguese and Spanish people converted almost entire population wherever they went! UK ruled over Egypt, China, and many more non-christians areas where the demographic remained almost the same. It has historical background to it. UK empire had relaised the importance of keeping religion and state independent of each other by then. With Mughals, spanish and Portuguese conquests, it was totally embedded together. I have no sypathy with the british...but its a facts.
I think before you tell others to check their facts, you need to get yours straight because China was never a British colony, so UK never ruled over China.
You really think appreciating a person's efforts is kissin ass.. M more Indian thank you think and I do a lot of research and studied about all u mentioned in other comments. Indian politics/government/religions/ppl mentality, in short the way of life is so customized and complex that its actually even hard for us to discuss thru internet. Just accept the prob bro.
israel is a tiny country that lives off American handouts, India speaks 1000+ languages and many more cultures. Israel has one language one culture. When it comes to China, it's an autocratic country unlike democracy in Indiaits mucg=h easier to pass laws than it is in India.
Why u are saying Hindus are secular it is the Indians. Now what happens to Hindu in Saudi does not effect the rights of people in INDIA and don't be racist. I am living in Punjab and seen lot of blood that has been shed in name of religion so do not even go there where you do not belong. Secularism is the way of INDIA and you can not do shit about it. You have to bear it.
Which hindu land? According to your theory, Hindus came from Iran so they cannot claim it to be their land. Iran tells they are Aryan and some self appointed Hindus claim them to be Aryan so if you are aryan then you don't belong to this land. Land belongs to natives and tribals whom you lable SC/ST or Maoist. Its their land so you should be moving back to Iran. Don't mix Hindu with native owners of the land.
Contd...Your theory of peace it debunked. Look at Raj Thackery. He fights with same Hindus who live in among him. He reflects infested mind that inbreds hate. You don't live in peace with Sikhs and Christian either. Do don't quote Parsis & Jews. I can also say that Christian, Muslims(with exceptions), Parsis and Jews are living peace in India since ages they never fought with each other. Irrespective of religion if I am a native of India, I have full rights and nobody can give or snatch it.
Why do you let this happen? According to you out of 100 people 86 are Hindus, including your SC/ST whom you claim Hindu but they don't, then why you couldn't achive so called Hindu Land. Out of your 86 only 3 want Hindu land and those 3 created theory of Hinduism to tell there own people that they are superior than them. You forgot that ancient India till Afganistan was Buddhist as well when so called Hindus converted to Buddhism and it keeps changing till today.
what I do not understand is why the idea of a nation should be based on Religion. As you said Islam and Christianity are transnational but why think of a nation as Islamic or Christian then to be secular. I don't know if you know the freedom history of India but if you knew then u would have understood the notion of secularism better.
india is a country which resembles one the most oldest and ancient civilizations of the world..it has a rich culture.. after the invasion by mughals ..india lost its identity... india is a multi cultural country...
I'm 23years old. And this video is uploaded 11 years ago. I'm thankful for all the information you collect and show the old and i want you to visit india again in 2022 and have experience what's happening here. Everything is changed and improved
I think he is dead
indians of 70s and 80s had a very different mindset,they were more religious and strict but the new generation,we just want to study and do something for our contry,i am a hindu my other three friends are rahil khan(muslim),ajeet pal singh(sikh) and lewis(christian),and belive me,we respect and care for each other,we all visit each others house in festivals,we celebrate,diwali,eid,christmas,gurunanak jayanti and evryone is happy by doing so,india is changing drastically,in the next 10-15 years,you'll see some serious and positive changes
You are so very right, for an Indian Religion Is in house and personal, the political class starting from Neheru till today 2014, have used religion to divide for their Vote Bank Politics. Look at them and blaming the British of doing it. the same old trick of blame game.,
Nirmal Singha thanks mam and you too are so damn right
Nirmal Singha hi Ms.Singha you are right.It happened and there are many places in India where people elected Good leaders but not based on Religion
Well said bro !!!
Well presented. India is plural society, religion is unimportant practiced at home in privacy. The economically challenged are the collective of masses that go out in processions even those include all religions. People are more concerned about maintaining peace and stability among each other and go out of the way to accommodate each other.
whatever India is today is just a fraction of what it could be, its larger strength lies in its villages, if one quarter of that over a billion people can bring India what it is today, think what will happen when its combines 1.2 billion people put the same effort.
Tabrez Correct
when he said 'Britisher' i thought to myself - Now you're completely indian!!!
Welcome ! Well, I do like your aggresiveness. Some of us- especially the young- OUGHT to be aggressive. However, I feel we (Indians) mainly leave a mark on the world as being brave, enduring, even ruthless when the time comes yet generally gentle in our approach -like our armies. No hard feelings. All the best ! Keep up the good work !!
Poverty is due to 800 years of foreign slavery.
Before the invaders came to India ( doors opened SUFIs ) there were NO poor people in India, and Kohinoor laden India was the richest country in the world .
Before the white invader came to India there was NO caste system but only Varna without conflicts .
European were working for indians
not at all. Only thing they know is loot,loot,loot
great watch! concise and honest...
"The deadliest foe of democracy is not autocracy but liberty frenzied." - Otto Kahn.
One britisher said 1+1=3, then another came and said "no, you are wrong, 1+1=11". They do the same with India.
a British person need to understand => India was under Colonial Rule for almost 200 years --British--French--Dutch--Portugal--
Why India came under Colonial rule --while China --even NEPAL-did not --is a different Story and Indians have to learn a lesson on that
The Colonialists did not allow the Indians --even to make their own Sewing Needle --Safety Pin --Dacca (now in Bangala Desh) Muslin manufacturing was annihilated and Glasgow Mull was imported in India --thanks Jamshed Ji Nasserwanji TATA --india was put on Industrial Map of the World--After Independence due to Pandit Jawahar lal Nehru Vision and Efforts STEM (Science-technology-engineering and mathematics) started developing "leaps and Bounds" --FIRST TIME WHEN LOCOMOTIVE Engines in Chittaranjan--Integral Coaches in Avadi--and Penicillin in Pimpri --were manufactured every Indian was Proud --not only that we can make Sewing Needles ( Subramania Bharathi's dream) --but Rockets --Atomic Reactors --Air-Craft Carriers within 67 years--From SNAKE-CHARMING to a Successful Trip to Mars--Sooner than later we will wipe out our Poverty--Our Middle Level and Upper Level Wealthy people will increase --Tilak Maharaj--V.O.C. Pillai's' dreams will come true.
India was under British --French--Dutch-Portugal Colonial Rule --You Tube => what is wrong in this sentence ?
lol no. China was undivided when British came. Brits sold opium to them and when the Emperor said no, the Brits totally annihilated them. They had more men than Brits and still lost Hong Kong. Then they had to sign a peace treaty to keep the Brits at the bay.
India was not at all backwards technologically. Most of the kingdoms were equipped with muskets and stuff. Infact, in rocket propulsion and some other high end engineering, we were quite ahead of time. Try reading about Mysorean rockets. The Brits copied the design and used it heavily against other European powers. You should know that India was not an isolated third world region back then. The only reason it fell to the British was because of internal strife.
@@SwapnilSemwal India had two opposite religions when the British came. The British occupied Bengal because the Hindus supported the British. Jagat Seth and Artun Petreous gave two lakhs of Rupees to Robert Clive to bring new soldiers from Madras and the commander of Siraj the subedar of Bengal were bribed with additional money coming from the Hindus. East India Company preferred the Hindus. It is the same story everywhere. In 1857 Bengalis refused to support the rebels because they were afraid that if the British get defeated it would mean the Muslims would come back to power. India before the British were not a free country; Muslims used to be the rulers. To get rid of them Hindus supported the British.
China had no such problem.
@@DipakBose-bq1vv And? I never said there was no internal strife amongst Indians, nor did I say China had them. Freedom of people is not a simple term. The French fought for their independence against a French king, so did the Russians. Freedom is a very elastic term. Freedom depends upon ones perspective. A more clear term for India under British is "colony". India under British rule was a colony, but not under Muslim rule. Anyways, talking about Bengal, it contained more muslim population percentage than the region in close proximity to delhi. The british simply attacked the weakest link in the empire, as Bengal had been facing political turmoil with the nawabs gaining more autonomy and Delhi losing its grasp. British EIC preferred profit. They fought against Hindus in Delhi and against Muslims in Mysore. Bengal was the most important trade region in east India with political instability, so the British seized the opportunity. When the Muslims rebelled they used the Hindus against them, and when the Hindus rebelled, they used the Muslims. In regions such as Maharashtra where the population was almost all Hindu, they used caste divide recruiting lower castes to fight against the upper castes, symbolized by the Maratha army. They did not belong to India, hence they shared no ideology with the Indians. They could chose whichever side was favorable for them because they had no inherent representation in the Indian culture.
What he is saying is absolutely true !! I am shocked as its not that easy for any outsider to understand the complexity of India ! But this man has delivered it brilliantly.. Hats off Sir :)
lol there is no indian beofre 1947 there is small kingdom
respect u sir. i am an Indian and still i hadnt thought about some aspects as deeply as you have. hope all researchers cud devote as much time to their subjects as you have done. regards.
I think those are really genuine points with zero orientalism... Good one..
My dear Indian brethren, we are the top R&D research center in IT .. JAI HIND... 65 years of Independence .. Not even a full man's age .. Our nation be young and we sprint ahead in the future .. STEP TO STEP .. SHOULDER TO SHOULDER .. A FORCE ON THE MOVE .. OF 1.25 BILLION .. सुनो सुनो ए दुनिया वालो बुरी नजर ना हम पे डालो .. चाहे जितना जोर लगाओ IT मे सबसे आगे हो गए हिन्दुस्तानी !!!!!! Jaaaai Hind ! Hindustaaaan Zindaaabaaaad !... Love you world ! =D
As a so called upper caste Brahmin Hindu, I say more power and prestige to the so called Dalits, Scheduled Castes, Untouchables etc. Their dignity is inherent in their humanity and this was much deprived for most of their history. The greatest enemy of Hindus have been Hindus and not others. Sadly this tragic fact is still lost on Indians.
The speaker has forgotten to mention that India has inspired a lot of technological as well as intellectual upbringings. Poverty is in every country, may it be in USA, England or any other country. Its just that India doesn't have a social security that provides money from tax payers to support unemployed or jobless people. In India Darwins theory prevails, ie survival of the fitess, if ur a weakling you die else you survive. Education and intellectual upbringing is part and parcel of our tradition and custom, which should be highlighted.
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as a taxpaying Indian citizen, I need to inform you that most of my taxes go to poor people. And with the new food security bill, burden on me will increase even more. Indian government uses middle class taxpaying citizens(which are less than 10% of the population) as the source of their money and power.
India has the biggest social security in place.
My friends social security just popped up recently.
In fact, the government provides so much subsidy for farmers, small scale industries, lower economy groups, the underprevileged, and so on, that there is always a deficit in their budget.
So I do not think Indian govt. does not take care of social security. It 'is' there. Its just that it's not formalized the way it is in US, and many other countries.
No USA doesnt have poverty. It has very high standard of living and anyone below that is poor. e.g. If you are a 3 person family, you have to rent 2 bed apartment as a law! There is addiction issues because of which people cant hold jobs, which are available in plenty. Others collect unemployment checks.
it is unfortunate that only moderator was asking questions.
Awesome
jai hind india has always been vital to the world. today india is a prosperous mighty superpower, and britain is desperately looking to India for prosperous
nice discussion.. one wishes one had talks like these more in the country as well .
Very beautifully put. I like it very much. Very thought provoking
india has huge young productive generation . china and japan are getting old
the inferior quality of the huge young generation may only be a burden.
Simon Wood nope the quality your mentioning is decreasing in rapid phase so noting to worry
As a matter of fact there HAVE been riots between Shiya-Sunnis in Lucknow several times. Sikhs have tried to expell non-Sikh Punjabis from Punjadb during the 1980s. Naxalites began there dirty fighting from Bengal. There HAS been too much REGIONLISM in our country and only recently (past 10 years) things have really taken upon a true national character. All the best India !!
foundation of Hindu religion were laid by men of so called "SC/ST"community.The person who composed the "Mahabharat" was son of fisherwomen.he once again contributed by composing the Entire"Vedic scripture" the bedrock of hindu philosphy.The man who composed "Ramanaya" was a Dacoit.It was Brahminic arrogance that hijacked this liberal philosphy and used it against the vrysame people who had contributed in it.Like christanity our civilization too went in "Dark Ages" and we are coming out of it.
just a tip of the iceberg from such a historical and cultured land!!
Author forgot about immense silent unnoticed Christian contribution pre/post independence to the Indian society. Still it goes unnoticed and most of the time viewed with suspicion and in contemporary world some have made them matter of hatred.
Well well how time have changed
Me watching this 11years ago 🤣🇮🇳🙏
I don't agree that foreigners are not easily assimilated in India, but yes there is a sense a suspicion especially after east India company and the constant flow of Christian missionaries even today with their idea of helping the third world. Latest example being of Mark Zukerberg. He must have improved his facebook policies............Well the british dug the pit for themselves....
Read the history of Jews in Kerala. These people came as migrants/refugees during first century even before Christianity started in the middle east because of persecution, and the kings accepted them. Some of them were later converted to Christianity by apostal Thomas. So Christianity in south India is as old as that in middle east & Europe. India is the only country that never persecuted Jews & Christians during 1st century. Very interesting history.
Lesson No 4 every Indian please listen and take in seriously
A comment on your statement at 26:50. Indians don't migrate to the UK because of its strict immigration policy. Language and weather are some other barriers when it comes to immigration into other parts of Europe.
Every Indian should watch this once in their life so they can think twice before throwing garbage on the streets or spitting pan.
The ones that are practicing “ Godliness where is their Cleanilness” It only takes “common sense” if one has no education.
There was a time, when Patrick French,
was roundly panned for his historical tomes on India.
But over the past two decades,
commentary from foreigners is more acceptable.
Mark Tully, Patrick French, William Dalrymple, Edward Luce, Daniel Lak,
have all published books / commentaries on India.
Incidentally, all are English / British.
A parallel 'Indian' commentary, half critical / narcissistic exists...
Siddhartha Deb, Akash Kapur, Anand Giridharadas, Ramchandra Guha etc.
This is insightful
How fast India develops during the next decade now depends on whether the people kick Congress and it's crony monarchy out. Polls seem to show a slide in their support base even in the UP-Bihar hinterland.
In spite of your ungentlemanly language, I strongly agree with you here !!
Hinduism is an artificial colonial construct.
That said, the 'religion' is a large corpus of rites, rituals and superstitions.
In contrast, Sanatana Dharma (the original corpus)
was a spectrum of philosophical debates.
And the 'Indian' civilization that used to be has ceased to be.
It is now merely a petri dish for commercialism.
In this lab-experiment / skin-graft of modernity,
Indians are game to acquire any cover, that aides their material 'progress'.
That is a very narrow pursuit.
well said stuffs..
Indians have moved on. True, India was a former British Colony but no point in always claiming to be a "Victim". Rather look forward for a bright Future and Economic Prosperity.
1. Inclusiveness / Diversity.
Counterpoint - Diversity is a cover for laissez faire ... rules aren't enforced.
2. Flexibility
Counterpoint - Flexibility is an alibi for encouraging corruption.
3. Learning / Education
Counterpoint - Rote learning and credentialism. Innovation is a casualty.
4. Environmental degradation
Counterpoint - Consumerism is a Western import. As is Capitalism.
5. Contradiction.
Counterpoint - An excuse for maintaining the status quo. A cop-out.
yep! proud to be an indian!!
A, large number of North American and European get treated for liver transplant, heart transplant and many other ailments. Though, there is poverty, slums, malnutrition in some areas. However, development in IT is tremendous. There, are both positive and negative sides.
It's a packaged deal mate
sometimes an outside perspective really helps
Shift.....Things ...Change.....
That neither makes it stupid..not blanket ! That simply makes it SECULAR !!
this chap speaks well
Well..let's extend that date to 700 AD to Vikramaditya..
Foe me friend Hindu = Secular ! I am a Hindu Branhiman and teach Hindi language in the USA.
Kohinoor diamond belongs to India Sir we just want to have what is rightfully ours not a prestige issue as western media shows it to be.all the wounds given by Britishers are still there.but our kohinoors are our people now who are working hard night and day.
You can call it any land but if someone tells me this land if only for Hindu than I just answered the question that its not. India is identity for many people who live there and for me too. I don't have sympathy towards anyone they won't need mine. I was answering "The land belongs to whom". I don't claim Jerusalem to be only my land, anyone who lives/born/native their has rights to call it his/her land. I am loyal to my country where I was born and have a right to call it mine also. Contd...
If you are loyal then don't vote as a flock and what your holly fathers says in churches. In India only hindus are secular what about others.
Just 11 years later, with state and central governments focused on cleaning up, India's trash problem doesn't seem so problematic. As the country gets up the ladder of income, people will put more pressure on environmentalism. That's true the whole world over. When you're poor and poorly resourced, your goal is to eat the next meal, not worry about the trash in the river, after all.
Dynastic politics too has taken some major hits by the year 2022, as anybody who follows Indian politics can attest. Not saying it's totally been discarded, but certainly voters have been given better choices, and they have picked those-- over and above dynastic considerations.
If India is so great why are so many leaving?
You have over a billion people there. If 5% move to the US thats 50 million people. I would say that's very small. India is an awesome country just stay there. Why leave?
They're everywhere!! You have all those smart people. Why can't they stay there and make India better?
watched a few videos of this speaker today - after reading that he has just passed away - may his soul rest in peace. But that almost every speech has the same weepy content about india... sunilMittal(not mittle) and venkatesh the quarry slave figure in multiple ones... very troubling... before telling india/indians how we should be... such speakers should tell their own people how they should correct their own life styles... or generally keep their gyaan to themselves... no one from india goes and tells americans/europeans how they should be living... understand that in the long run it just does not matter... let it be... let people be...
Indian defence budget is $390 billion not $39 billion india gdp is 3 largest gdp in world there are many indians in world richest persons
The reason why its less is the values of the rupees which the government does to promote foreign business and I've seen lots of simple Indians with h tvs in huts so they can afford food but they spend it on other thing and then get the government to give them money for food etc
Sadly though, all of them are not granted that right willingly. See what happens when a poor person without connections knocks at a government office -especially at apolice station. This we MUST change !!
There is more to it than Hindu-Hindu or Hindu-Other religions ("Hinduism" is NOT a religion by the way..). Here we have REGIONALISM, politics of votes and other vested interests. This too, we MUST change.
Eh ? Just Corrupt Politicians, India doesn't have Corrupt Businessmen or Mafia.
the best thing you can do to a struggling populous nation is education
Hinduism is wrongly advertised negatively as having many Gods false you are allowed to be an atheist, Brahma is also a concept of one God
Its called MTI (Mother Tongue Influence)
No, Just speaking like an Indian who belives all Indians have equal rights.
It doesn't matter though.
of course they did... they still do it
Me tooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
India manpower is best in the world but we are suffering worst management.
Someone said here said China developed fast and so did Israel, leaving India still in the bullock cart age. Well, let us leave Israel out of this discussion. It is a puny little country hanging on the biceps of Uncle Sam. It may have developed but it is a security state, constantly at war with the neighbours and thinks coerction is the only way for peace.
Yes, China has made a lot of progress but much of that has come from an autocratic regime that has strict control of who should live where, who should have how many children etc etc. There is tremendous environmental degradation that is happening in China due to massive shift of human capital from rural to urban centers. Many big cities in China are unlivable, covered with smog! This is their model!
So, progress at what cost?
In India, poverty is visible but progress happens with consensus. So, a big company wanting to mine Bauxite ore in Orissa was denied permission by the local tribals because it was considered exploitative and would lead to uprootment of their lifestyle, livelihood.
Now, u may argue what kind of lifestyle they had! Well, it is up to them to decide. No outsider can tell anyone how he/ she has to live.
Ultimately, we have to define what progress is. Is it the western model of consumerism that goes in the name of progress?
On the question of India being in a bullock cart age, well recently India sent a GSLV rocket putting a satellite in geosynchronous orbit, joining a group of 5 other elite group of nations who can do this. This group includes China but not Israel. It has also sent a rocket on mission to Mars, called Mangalyaan.
Clearly, the guy who wrote that India is in bullock cart age still is smoking some hot stuff freely available on the Afghan-Pakistan border. Or else, he is a plain moron. You make the pick.
I agree. We don't want the western meaning of progress. That meaning only means that people become slave to their base desires and slaves to corporations. I mean one look at the pathetic black Friday videos is all I need to deny that. However, we need to develop spiritually and materialistically... People need to be more spiritual aware of themselves and gain knowledge (different from education) which will enlighten them and set them free of ignorance. Sadly we are only focused on the material part.
read the UN GDP per capita stats, China was behind India till 1980 in terms of GDP per capita...but marched ahead after liberalization. But now post liberalization in 1991, we have moved swiftly and will soon leave behind both China and Israel. Infact going by the UN forecast, India will over take great britain in GDP per capita by by 2045 . You see its a race..we are long run players and life to take things easily..
keep kohinoor with u
please keep the kohinoor dimond it brings bad luck
Dalip Bhati 😂😂😂😂
Now This just making me laugh.
The guiding torch for all that is said is due too hindu ethos that is seeped deep in the psyche of all citizens across all religious faiths. Indian muslims have learnt too to be tolerant to a larger extent After viewing popular debate on Pak tvs (courtesy you tube) I understand they are coming to senses.
Anybody watching in 2021..?? I know that you are crying, me too. I feel sad for my country how pathetic our countries conditions are. Economically socially health, political 😭😭
Very nice, no wonder why India is GREATEST.
to all the bririshers and americans............i would like to comment in 2040 on this video.......:P
Why can't we call this our land.Our "karmabhoomi" is india our "punya-bhomi" is india,our identity,culture,livelihood,our holy places,our philosophy ,above all our identity were formed in India.Not like yours from "Abrahaminic religions".Your holy place and source of culture is Jerusalem & palestine,your livelihood and home "maybe" india.your sympathy for SC/ST restricted to converting them to christanity,for the political goals of Church.
Virtual extinction of tigers? Our tiger populations have come back from the brink of extinction in the 70s. Inspite of such a huge population we have actually managed to preserve most of our large mammals. And why do you think there is no central environmental policy? God knows where this is coming from. In fact we had the British mindset of looking at forests only as a resource to exploit and that was changed in the 70s when detailed environmental laws were formulated and our wildlife has actually improved since then. We have a full fledged ministry of environment and climate change with separate wings looking at environmental degradation/pollution and wildlife and forests with a strong central policy. We also have the only Green Tribunal in the world which is an independent court which has power to rule against development programmes threatening natural heritage areas. There is no country with such a high population density with so much of the large wildlife existing. It is a good lesson not a bad one. The bad lesson is that of countries like the UK or other European countries where your native wildlife is almost finished. The bad lesson is China where they have decomated their large wildlife, especially like tigers, slaughtering them for medicine.
tbh he is basically talking about north India
Do explain. Almost all points are applicable almost everywhere in India. For eg. how can you say ISRO is about north India?
avis119 this is because India is the largest democracy and due to this the country is more central and it concludes things such as stock shares and bonds. the other reason why I have stated this is because the government has its capital at north... that's is where all of the economic look is at even though GDP is mainly produced in the southern states which has had an affect of India's 6% increase in software markets.... if you want to argue this out or something feel free to email me :)
he said - you goto Ganges or Cauvery for the fourth point. ????
No that was not the policy of the State. Unlike Mughals...or portugese rulers.
First off I am not anti Hindu or anti Muslim. I am arguing incorrect assumption you are making regarding India. Hindus convert themselves by various means nobody should be interested in converting them, it comes from within themselves. As far as coexistence is concerned, Hidus from North fought with Dravids and tribes and pushed them to South India and thats what you call Ramanyan so you didn't live in peace with Hindus as well since ages. Even today you don't live in peace with Hindus. Contd...
Check your facts.....Mughals, Portuguese and Spanish people converted almost entire population wherever they went! UK ruled over Egypt, China, and many more non-christians areas where the demographic remained almost the same. It has historical background to it. UK empire had relaised the importance of keeping religion and state independent of each other by then. With Mughals, spanish and Portuguese conquests, it was totally embedded together. I have no sypathy with the british...but its a facts.
India...
I think before you tell others to check their facts, you need to get yours straight because China was never a British colony, so UK never ruled over China.
You really think appreciating a person's efforts is kissin ass.. M more Indian thank you think and I do a lot of research and studied about all u mentioned in other comments. Indian politics/government/religions/ppl mentality, in short the way of life is so customized and complex that its actually even hard for us to discuss thru internet. Just accept the prob bro.
0:58 Pakistani flags???? not indian
India got independence 1947, Israel in 1948, China in 1949. Both Israel and China have advanced by 30 years, leaving Indians in the bullock age.
israel is a tiny country that lives off American handouts, India speaks 1000+ languages and many more cultures. Israel has one language one culture. When it comes to China, it's an autocratic country unlike democracy in Indiaits mucg=h easier to pass laws than it is in India.
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Nailed it
so let me understand this... this is a BRITISH chap called FRENCH writing about INDIA
Why u are saying Hindus are secular it is the Indians. Now what happens to Hindu in Saudi does not effect the rights of people in INDIA and don't be racist. I am living in Punjab and seen lot of blood that has been shed in name of religion so do not even go there where you do not belong.
Secularism is the way of INDIA and you can not do shit about it. You have to bear it.
But our prince and princess do not pose nude for mazagines for sone money hahhaahhaha
Which hindu land? According to your theory, Hindus came from Iran so they cannot claim it to be their land. Iran tells they are Aryan and some self appointed Hindus claim them to be Aryan so if you are aryan then you don't belong to this land. Land belongs to natives and tribals whom you lable SC/ST or Maoist. Its their land so you should be moving back to Iran. Don't mix Hindu with native owners of the land.
Indian Muslims are far better than British ,fanatical attitude is concerned
do u think that is the right response. you r behaving like zaid ahmed.
For me its a perfect response tit for tat
read a book call poor economics you will see how "poor" india is. in fact, india has a lower povety rate than the US
why they had Pakistani flags painted on children's faces LOL ????
Contd...Your theory of peace it debunked. Look at Raj Thackery. He fights with same Hindus who live in among him. He reflects infested mind that inbreds hate. You don't live in peace with Sikhs and Christian either. Do don't quote Parsis & Jews. I can also say that Christian, Muslims(with exceptions), Parsis and Jews are living peace in India since ages they never fought with each other. Irrespective of religion if I am a native of India, I have full rights and nobody can give or snatch it.
Why do you let this happen? According to you out of 100 people 86 are Hindus, including your SC/ST whom you claim Hindu but they don't, then why you couldn't achive so called Hindu Land. Out of your 86 only 3 want Hindu land and those 3 created theory of Hinduism to tell there own people that they are superior than them. You forgot that ancient India till Afganistan was Buddhist as well when so called Hindus converted to Buddhism and it keeps changing till today.
what I do not understand is why the idea of a nation should be based on Religion. As you said Islam and Christianity are transnational but why think of a nation as Islamic or Christian then to be secular.
I don't know if you know the freedom history of India but if you knew then u would have understood the notion of secularism better.
Diversity....2014 BJP Central ...Govt.....Good Luck
So the arabs were no saints either.