Your attempt at "shock value" by using descriptive profanity (which is not your normal style) in an attempt to provoke Calvin, failed dismally. Calvin didn't flinch, change his facial expression or his tone of voice.
That was great @andrewgoldheretics I would agree there is a war for the western culture, and woke will not stand up to Islam. Christian values that built western countries will not stand against Islam when so many are happy to use what it has created, without the discipline to pass it on to future generations. Calvin is right, a new world is being created while we are asleep at the wheel as we allow crazies and ideologues drive decision making.
Thank you, Rev. Calvin, for standing up for the truth and speaking the truth about who Jesus is. I'm an ex-Muslim who is a Christian. Jesus rescued me from the darkness of Islam and brought me to his light. I'm eternally grateful for what he has done for me in the cross. 🙏🙌✝️🕎
@@mayhu3282 I was in darkness before, now I know the truth. That Jesus is the alpha and the omega. In his name every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord. Jesus seeks relationship with us, not religion (or denomination). I am a Bible believing Christian. I don't place my salvation on a denomination. If you think your Captain America or Flying Spaghetti Monster can rescue you from trouble, then, my friend, I am very worried about you. Because only Jesus can do that. 😏
@@mayhu3282if you don’t know and can’t see that Christianity and Islam are not sects within the same religion, you ignoring some basic facts, hard facts
As a non Brit, I would strongly advise British people to take seriously people like Calvin and their vision for the nation in the face of the Islamic cultural and potential political threat.
There is no such thing as judeo Christianity.... It is a perversion of Christianity.... St ignatious..... Jesus called the pharisees "Synogogue of satan" They killed Jesus Christ and the prophets before him.. And have persecuted us severely.... They are displeasing to God and are enemies of all humanity..... St Paul Romans Atheist, Liberalism, socialism, Marxism, communism.... Is satanism... Denying God.... Bahomet is transgender.... Goats head, breasts, male genitals... If you deny Jesus Christ, he will deny you before the Angels of God.... England was catholic for a thousand yrs.... One God, one faith, one truth........ Until the apostate Henry 8th... A pope once described England as a landscape of monasteries.... Without Christian morals...commandments of God... We become our own little gods..... Original sin... We are all born as sinners..... Jesus Christ is the only way, truth and life.... We all have an eternal soul....We are in a spiritual war.... These days are wicked.... God bless! Christ is king! Ave Maria!
That is true! The problem is that Islam still (and probaly forever) intolerant and utterly political. No text hermeneutics, unshakable... so, very opposed to our civilization (secularism, enlightnement, freedom of choice, etc., not perfect of course)
It's lie and misconception. You will see a very few Arabic Speaking leave islam. Quran is simple arabic not a rocket science. People normally leaving islam are mostly non arabic speaker.
So many muslims are becoming Christians. I watched videos where ex Muslims give their testimony how Jesus came to them in a vision and dreams. They accepted Jesus into their lives, and now they feel at peace. God is not interested in religion but in a relationship. Maranatha
The true battle of any Christian is not about the Muslim , because they're already believe in God but différently they're more close to us but away us . True battle Is the LGBT community Is continuing to corrupt our youth, the lesbianism who perverted our girls that is thé Real fight because there is more lesbian than homosexual plus thé battle of weak Christian to give them force to arm their faith
25:58 white English Brit here, did 18 years in London from 2004 to 2022, it went from cosmopolitan to mainly Islam - at least in the NW8 area where I lived. Awful. Mostly Muslim migrants are able to be housed there, claiming close family ties to the are via previous immigrants, so they get the social housing in zone 1/2 area. The council are filled with their ilk, helping each other. Then those working pay thousands to live besides them (that was me) while they don’t work, don’t talk English, act as if they still live in the Middle East. Then the shops go their way, the schools are filled with their offspring - and you look around as a native white Brit and it no longer looks like England. So you leave….
Is all over. The councillors, and politicians are becoming muszlim face and. Is boldening them up. You see them wearing hijabi on tv, parliament etc!!! They are here to take over!!! Wake up and tell your kids about this cult!!!
That’s how they carved out entire countries and have created many “hot zones” around d globe that r going in that direction now, some may take few decades, some may take longer. But they eventually win. U know y? Cause they r relentless. And they’re always inventing new ways to expand, one inch at a time. How do u stand against such a machinery??
Im spiritual not religious, but if i had to choose it would definitely be Christianity. In Christianity Jesus died for humanity and our sins, in Islam you have to kill and die for Allah.
@@sar7440 Christianity believes a human sacrifice is moral. It also believes someone else can take your punishment. Why would you think that was admirable? It's disgusting. What does "spiritual" even mean?
@@davidjohnbonnett just for the record, Jesus has never said that. That user is getting half remembered/told bits from Leviticus wrong, and out of context. But like all good atheists; worship at the altar of Dawkins and LGBTb&q ideology nonsense.
@@ChristianRobotHead I'm not talking about Leviticus, I'm talking about the entire Jesus myth being based on absolving humankind of the mythical act of sin by being a human sacrifice. How can you think it's moral to do that?
Comparing the immigrants in England to Latinos in the United States is utter nonsense. Latinos are predominantly Catholic, so we share a religious faith, and we also share pretty much the same values. Latinos in the United States fit in seamlessly with white Americans, except among bigots who hate everyone who isn't exactly like they are.
I think of wokeism as the new religion. I am an atheist. I believe in science, critical thinking, reason, and rational thinking. Women are adult human females. I never bent my knee for black lives matter. I don't believe in critical race theory etc.
if you really belive in science, critical thinking, reason and rational thinking you know nothing come out of nothing, that matter isnt eternal but that time and matter had to come from something eternal and non mathereal (God) for a start. You also know randomness didnt assemble a cell in a fraction of the second which is the simplest form of life which depend on a hugely complex DNA code, digestive system, ability to navigate, replicate itself perfectly etc the second it started living. It took a creator for life to happen, like with the universe.
Wokeism cannot be a religion since it accepts nearly all religious views and that's what Calvin's problem is. He cannot convince many people that his religious views are true or even well meaning and so he wants the state to force people to believe the same thing as he does
17th century ,Pascale said it is better to believe in Jesus/God than not to believe because when you die and there is a heaven and hell and you deny Jesus; where do you go.? What founded the western civilisation = catholicism, 10 commanments, put God first...........hospitals, universities , soup kitchens, orphanages our creativity...the one true faith from Jesus; CATHOLIC church
34:25 Think Calvin missed the mark here. The second half of that Ephesians 5 teaching is, “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her”, and “in this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies.” The church teaches male headship, but it’s the sort of headship that Christ displayed, servant leadership. Women aren’t being asked to unquestioningly obey a man who treats her like a slave - they’re being asked to respect and serve a man who in turn is giving up his life to serve her, putting her needs before his own. It’s a pretty radical ask - not what a bloke who just wanted to sit and be brought sandwiches would have written. CS Lewis puts it pretty well in The Four Loves: “Is it not clear that this teaching is most faithfully lived out in that man whose marriage is most like a crucifixion?”
Absolutely. The way I have see. It explained is as a perfect balance. The woman obeys the man but the man would rather die than do anything to hurt the woman so it is a perfect balance in the way people in the Middle East 2000 years ago would have accepted equality between husband and wife.
I agree, saying we are here to serve men and not here to serve God, as a single woman am I supposed to walk around serving all men I meet??!! He hasn’t explained it very well and nor did he emphasise that women do have equal value to men - or maybe he does think we have an inferior role, many Christians do think we don’t directly serve God. We do.
It is called complementary, men should love their wives and wives serve the family and community under the leadership of their husbands. Feminism as a liberal ideology (meaning that freedom and equality are the moral centres) is not compatible with Christianity at all, to which slavery itself is not immoral but rather a temptation to it, in much the same way as any having power over another may be tempted to misuse it and thus must be restrained by morality. Christianity is hierarchical and patriarchal (God is the supreme patriarch and as a result the hierarchies imitate that relationship in form and function), it is a religion of bonds and responsibilities, not of freedom and desire.
I think he would support the fullness of the scripture you referenced. It was a quick reference and so much discussed there was not time to unpack. He spoke in the very broadest sense about it.
the real Aramaic name of Jesus Christ is Iso/Isho in his mother tongue. He called upon his lord with the titles Elah/Elohim/Allaha/illah. He prayed to one creator of the Heavens and the Earth as did the Jewish tribes he was sent too, as did all the messengers and Prophets before him. People claim to follow Jesus but don't even know his real name.
Workeism or atheism never made Britain great. Christianity did, and Britain became so Great, so developed and so desirable in the eyes of many nations, that it attracted people of different races and creeds.The problem today is that Britain has left Christianity and other ideologies and creeds are fighting for the soul the beloved kingdom. Britain must return to Christ if it wishes to survive all the changes and still remain the darling of the world. From a grateful migrant.
The West has progressed due to enlightenment values that are often in conflict with the bible. We have been through the fire of religion monopolising our laws and society and we have matured and grown out of it. We don't want to go through it again. It's time for the Islamic world to go through that same process. Hopefully it won't take 400 years.
Nah, I am an atheist. I have no trouble fiding truth, love and meaning in my life. But where many people go wrong is that they call themselves atheist and then think they can be done with it. With being an atheist and/ or free thinker comes the responsibility to think about everything, and to think well you need to inform yourself well. And to inform yourself well you need to read, watch, learn and much more. Not everbody wants that. For some people it is better to just believe in something, for others it isn't. Let's make sure that for the people who just want to believe in something, something good is available. But it is not the only way...
I think for every woman who has a nice high income job, there's four or five who are sweating as maids, fast food workers, or nursing home. caretakers being paid tiny amounts by a greedy business industry and trying to support their children as the man has left.
Big fan of Calvin for quite some time. He makes a tremendous amount of sense and I appreciate his way of communicating. Andrew, I’ve watched you from the beginning of your original programme as well but I admit I am more familiar with Calvin because of his opinion. I have see you more and more on other podcasts or TH-cam channels like Andy Signor PopCorn Palace, Stef the Alternerd, and I caught you on Piers a week or so ago. Nice seeing you have Calvin on. Good show. Thanks!
Point is, feminism (good or bad, whatever) been hijacked by wokism, hence it leads to women have to actually become men to be equal. That's what communists do, hijack minorities or 'suppressed' and promise them freedom and golden pants, actually leading to real suppression, oppression, discrimination, segregation and all other bad 'ons' and regimes. People get fooled easily.
Old feminist here. Fr. Robinson, you are not presenting the feminism of the 70's and 80's as it was or its goals .I have to say this because I was active in the time. A primary goal was for women to be able to function in the economy. I was well over twenty before I could have my own credit card. It took a lot of energy to get that right for women.
I know. I am so fucking tired of seeing feminism mischaracterised by men on the internet. Feminism evolved to fight rampant and obvious sexism and discrimination, like the right to vote, and to keep your property and children after divorce. Then later, equal pay, equal access to education and opportunities.
@@annal2740dont blame all the men on the internet for that veiw of feminist, there are many many evil women who use the word feminism in their arguments against men ie "all men should die" i think like the lgb feminism was hijacked by idiots who want morw and more thanks to the new wave of feminism we have women defending trans men in real women sports a spaces i do not believe that is what you were fighting, i myself at 35 should be happy for what you thought fpr but my own opinion i would be more than happy to not own a credit card or a house, but thats just me
An old feminist here as well. People today do not understand the basics which we fought for. That we could not get a constitutional amendment in the US was only because of the time. What we fought for was needed. However, he did make one good point,, women today who choose to stay home and raise children are looked down on. I stayed home when my children were young, got my degree as an adult, and then went back to work. I was demeaned, berated, and honestly nullified as a woman .. by other women if I said I was a homemaker. If I said I was a trial paralegal applying to law school.. suddenly I was acceptable!! Unluckily even a good much needed idea can be taken too far. Sadly, in some ways it has. Women have the right to choose what path they take and should not be judged or looked down on because it's not the path you want them to take.
Completely agree no woman should be looked down on whatever path they choose. Interestingly I got the opposite, women criticising me for going back to work after had a baby, saying things like 'you'll miss out on their first steps' and really cruel things like that. I'm the kind of old school feminist who believes both men and women should have the choice to stay at home with the kids or go out to work. Not that many men want to stay at home with their kids because it's bloody hard work and it's so low status in society.
@@andrealeetobias3474 that is indeed true,any family that has only 1 income these days is indeed very poor ,,I get a bit sick of hearing that married women work because they want a career,there is no career in working doing awful repetitive jobs,it is because they want something of a decent lifestyle for there families
Whose fault is that? Women demanding to work originally. Had that standard never become the norm mens work never would have been devalued and we would still be able to run households on one man's income.
@@damarcuscolfer1485for millennia women have always worked. First in the fields, then in the factories, always in the home, often around the clock. The fact our wage was given to our husband doesn’t negate the fact we worked inside and outside the home, which he owned, where he put his feet up. House prices rose when the population increased beyond capacity. Decrease the surplus population and demand will fall and with it the price.
Finally get to hear this guy speak . Had to switch off the rob Moore podcast as he kept interrupting Calvin.. seen a few of this channels podcasts great to see the host be impartial and allowing guests to speak . Keep up the good work mate 👍
This was such a big conversation! I was about to comment but there's too much to say! You should have him on again! I feel like you didn't go through half your questions. I love seeing two grown human beings exchange without animosity. Very nice and much neeeded
I remember saying this to one of my friends that wokeism is basically another religion which humans are following. Religion at the end of the day is a social construct. I would rather have people be moderately religious than follow wokeism.
@@ResearchReally You don't have to be either. There is nothing good done by religion that can't be done without it, and being religious, doesn't mean you aren't woke. Ask Justin Whelby
@@sandersson2813I disagree - and just 4 yrs ago I was happy most religion was gone.. bc I grew up in the Bible Belt. I was wrong. Ppl need some kind of positive, spiritual practice in their lives. Because I went to a moderate (UCC) church as a kid - I know we don’t wish death on those in another political party. These ppl don’t. There’s a massive difference. Obviously there’s a void without some spiritual practice - and this is what we have. You can be a Buddhist or whatever but it’s very clear humans have this need - for whatever reason, and it’s been a disaster to remove spiritual practice from our lives.
@@josiepkat People DO NOT need that. The best countries to live in within the developed world are the countries which are LEAST religious. Places like Netherlands, Austria, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark rank consistently HIGHER than more religious countries and have lower rates of crime and better rates of societal health and higher standards of living. The world is not a better place due to religion or religious beliefs.
Christian cannot save you from islam, only God can. it is a weapon used by Satan, and also, a judgement that can be used by God. this nation has mostly turned its back on God, now we are reaping what we sowed. only God can stop it, if the nation repents, then that would be a win win. but will it happen. no.
Women are not there to obey men! I believe in family life. If I study physics, I am not staying at home to obey a man but using my skills to benefit society, for example. Objective truth is important.
@@clovermark39 I know plenty of women who have jobs outside the home - some in high positions and some in low ones. Not a single one of them imitates men.
Damn you Andrew... I had work to do and you dropped this interview. Fascinating discussion (I am strong atheist). I don't agree with all of Mr Robinson's points, but think the discussion is very important and well reasoned.
Being an atheist does not mean a person is bad, atheists that I know have strong moral views, and are good citizens, love their Country, and make up their own minds based on the evidence as it is relayed from many different sources.
@@maggieattenborrow6725 Morals which you got from christianity. Without christian morals, atheists have absolutely nothing, and we start seeing where atheism leads now as the christian moral flowers which atheism picked from christianity are dying in atheism without being watered by the biblical belief system, and atheism degenerate into wokeism and barbarism.
Yeah. It's a false binary used to whip up clicks based on beating the "woke" boogeyman into the ground while backdoor advocating for the older mythology-based social order. You can have a moral society without either. It's funny that Andrew mentioned magical thinking when referring to wokeism but doesn't call out Christianity as being fairytale based.
I listened to this today while working. I was bought up in religion, very strict Baptist church, hell fire, damnation, and the apocalypse were front and centre, old testament was read as much as new testament. I am now an atheist and have been since I was 14 yrs old, I am now 49. The conviction Calvin has is what you would expect from a man of the cloth, the unwavering belief in what he's read in the bible is still puzzling to me. He tried to downplay the importance of the old testament to religion and I think this because it's not the look the Christian faith wants now, they're trying to soften the vengeful cruel god of the old and replace with a kind god of the new testament. I struggle with an intelligent person, as he appears to be, accepting that this book is the absolute and utter truth and should be believed regardless of how fanciful it is. A lot of religious people wanted to ban Harry Potter because of the magic, but what on earth is being resurrected from the dead if not magic? What's the difference between believing in god, jesus, the holy spirit and believing in say tinkerbell, the tooth fairy or easter bunny books have been written about them also. From my personal experience religion is about control and fear nothing more. Thanks Andrew for your amazing work
And long before that. It comes from 'queer as a nine bob note': bob = shilling, and there used to be a ten shilling (bob) note. Queer also meant "different" to the norm, in any way a person wants to interpret it, and that's how they like to interpret it.
Queer just means Strange, and Gay means happy. They co-opt these words as self-descriptors because Sodomite or Homosexual are much too honest descriptors. They dont like being described. They prefer being celebrated regardless of their obvious sins and flaws.
Calvin Robinson is literally a godsend. We need more people like him. Sincere, unapologetic, not afraid of Islam, liberal wokeism or challenges politics and culture.
It's difficult to disagree with Calvin but the whole issue of women in paid work started in ernest during the war effort, not through feminism. Greedy companies have perpetuated this so that now women *have* to work in order to afford to have children. And yes, I'm speaking as a wife and mother. My husband and I could not have had our family without my financial contribution. That is what we need to fix. One full time wage should be able to pay a mortgage and support a family.
Working class women have always worked but had to stop when they had kids. Women going back to full time work is modern. It was just accepted women neeed time to raise the kids. How hard was it feeding your babys though the night? Then being expected tpo work a full day is modern maddness, Psychology and scociology can list all the problems kids will get if not nutured. Even breast feeding your kid will give it 8 IQ extra. Diffrernce between pass and fail at gcse. Read some Femenists they have wanted radical socal change for 100 years. Even the hatred for the normal society was there from the start. You are correct modern society and needing two full wages is a serrious problem. We will have seriuos socal up heavl in 10 years if not fixed.
Hear hear! I am saying this for years... Me and my wife both work part-time, so our kids have 1 full time parent so to say. But this is not possible for everybody and I think it is a shame. Every parent deserves quality time with their children, it is one of the most important things the life of a parent has to offer. This is absolutely something that needs to be fixed. It will also fix the low birth rate issue. One average full time salary should enable a family to buy a home and maintain a family.
We need more Christians like Calvin Robinson who're not afraid to speak out against the future destruction of our christian communities and cultures. Too many priests are woke, it's like that age old saying of a Turkey voting for Christmas.
This guy is incredible!! I need someone like him around me all of the time. I also so much appreciate and respect the interviewer, being an atheist, with his patience and openness to let the priest finish his thoughts and so civilly add to it.. what a great example of 2 people in different journeys having a logical conversation and walking away friends.. why can’t we all do this!? Fantastic conversation, God bless you both! As far as Calvin goes, I know he’s heard it before, but we would love you in the catholic faith! You think catholic, and talk catholic.. not what certain Catholics say but the true faith! My heart warms when he mentions the Eucharist! But, I’ve heard you before, I understand… we Catholics love you so much! A lot of times saying things that our priests don’t say.. this from a cradle catholic..❤️
You have created a wonderful show, Andrew, as only you can. I so enjoyed this episode. I truly hope that you get to know Jesus Christ within your life - it is truly amazing having a relationship with him in one's life - truly beautiful - believe me, I know! I made up my mind to find Jesus 30 years ago, and I chose the Alpha Course in order to help me do that - it really helped me explore Christianity. I hope, one day, to hear you declare on your show (perhaps with Calvin again) that you have found Christ and embrace him in your life.
What an interesting talk! I really enjoyed! Different meanings and beliefs but totally respecting each other! Both of you are a very good example of how journalism shoukd work. I am from Germany and I hope I can express appropriately what I mean...I wish we would have more priests in the catholic church in Germany like Calvin Robinson!!!!!
There are definitely more choices than Christianity or Islam. I can live a moral life as an agnostic, I don't need fairy stories to teach me how to be a decent human being.
Obviously true. But I think you missed the point of his argument. Without any religion, we will become secular. But then we will devolve into thinking all religions or no religion is acceptable. Then Islam will take over forcing compliance.
@evieblessed I don’t know if you’ve been brought up in a Judo-Christian culture, Islamic culture, culture of nature-based spirituality or whatever, but most people are from a society which traditionally had some sort of belief (or fairy story if you want to call it that). I think that society influences us in terms of our values and morals, even if we and our relatives don’t follow any particular belief. Where does your idea of decent human being come from?
Islam of today expects you to obey like Christianity did before the enlightenment era. I am an atheist of a mixed Islamic heritage. I would suggest every westerner that cares about their freedom actively hold on to western Christian values. Islam should not be accommodated. Probably too late though.
Sometimes a wife is more qualified than her husband to make a decision. Marriage should be a partnership in which either partner can veto the other's decision. Not a dictatorship where the man says what goes and the woman just has to put up with it. Somebody will probably say the man should consult his wife but the man should make the final decision. Sorry but no, some things are deal breakers that can't be compromised
Not true. This is the current Godless view of marriage, but it doesn’t work and has lead to countless broken relationships and out of control children.
So what do we women do when men let us down?When men committed adultery/Leave the family home etc. When men do not provide for our children ? the answer is that we have to get on with it we have to provide for our children if our men won’t, we HAVE to.
@@keksi6844 fair enough, now let’s hear what the Muslims think of everyone else? Oh silence… because they beheaded all the men for being Kafir, and r-ped all the girls and women…
@juliechurley2716 Well, it's not that the bible has been reformed, it's that the West has been through the Enlightenment, so Christianity has been domesticated. What thus does show is that Christians are BETTER than their God.
@@Globaldave1970 I wonder if there would be the same amount of people identifying as "transwomen" if they were expected to "serve men" .... Perhaps that's why some "Christians" (hopefully a minority!) are keen to promote that ideology. I don't think it's justified.
@@wjdeoliveira3809 If this guy is saying women are slaves to men and if Islam shares this view: then this man is more in line with Islam than Christianity
I WANT to believe in God, but I can't just turn my brain over to some belief I've never once in my life held. My Grandparents were church goers, but I was too young to ever understand anything before they passed. How do I find God if I can't even begin to believe he exists? I'm not trying to be funny here, this is a genuine dilemma, I at this point in my life just do not believe, and I have absolutely no direction, no hope or spiritual fulfillment am I to always feel so empty? I'm a victim of my lifetime of skepticism I suppose, it's a double edged sword.
Talk to Jesus Christ, even if it seems blindly. Ask him to help you to find him. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ. He said, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life no one comes to the Father (God) except through me. Let go as if to surrender and Jesus will hear you. I will pray for you, God Bless and guide you to him. With Christian love.
I ended up realizing that the burden of proof rested with God (if He existed), but that proof might not satisfy the demands of empiricism because the spirit is another plane of existence. So I prayed, “If you exist, and you want me to be a good person, then you should want to help me to be a good person. I want to be able to like people as much as I like dogs.” The first answer was a sensation I can’t describe, with the word, “*Gratitude. Gratitude.*” It took about five years of tentative searching before I realized that I really did believe in God, and the supernatural joy that followed felt like my feet weren’t touching the ground, and I couldn’t wipe the smile off my face. I’ve heard a few other converts describe this feeling. Seek, and you shall find.
Agreed. He seems like such a logical person. I don't understand how he makes that last little leap to get to God. I am with him all the way until that last little step. Plus I don't think you can use the contents of the Bible to prove the legitimacy of itself. Seems like circular reasoning to me.
I think the same thing about many atheist. Something from nothing makes absolutely no sense. It's either that, (something from nothing, which is impossible), or there's a creator. Whether He wants something to do with us or not is the real question.
@@TheoHawk316 it's hard to rap your mind around but there has never been nothing even a void is something quotuim physics suggest that there has to be atoms to make a void there for the universe has a weight a structure that to even have no physical material in it would make something there just can't be nothing.
Calvin is wrong in regards to who serves who. The Bible actually says that both men and women first serve God, and both men and women serve family, and each other, NOT that men serve God and women serve men. Neither men nor women are to be selfish and serve only themselves and their own interests and goals.
Oh Andrew. Thank you for not being sexist like some of your guests. I have had both. I’ve been a stay at home mom and I’ve had work. And it’s just nonsense to think having kids is fulfilling for every woman. It’s mostly drudgery. I’m sure it works for some that way but it’s soul destroying for many of us. Or saying that men are more logical and women are more emotional, that’s simply not true. Men are extremely emotional but they tend to experience every emotion that isn’t happiness as anger and therefore they tamp it down. Women are more easily able to label different emotions and express them, usually. You know men have high emotionality because of all the crimes they commit, when they don’t suppress their anger. I don’t think Calvin understands or even likes women. I think Andrew does.
Thanks for hosting the interview Andrew. I’m an atheist too and I’m intrigued by the dialectical dogma and alt worldview that you were able to draw out. I was lucky enough to attend lectures as a student by actual heretic Lloyd Geering. I grew up as a Preachers Kid and it wasn’t a great experience which is why I’m a committed atheist. As an involuntarily childless woman I find the focus on reproduction and loss of women’s rights a step backwards for equity rights and inclusivity. When god created men she was only joking 🙃.
@islakayTrue. Most of us are so afraid of being seen as pushy jerks that we hardly dare to tell people what we really believe, that God created them to love them, that Jesus became a man and died to save them. That’s good news ❤ The real trick is to try not to condemn the gospel and the Bible before really trying to explore God with an open mind. Faith is not impossible for thinking people, if they invite God to speak to their lives (former atheist, here).
@islakay Well, He doesn’t give us quotas ☺️ He doesn’t care whether we bring in revenues. It’s not about the head count; the actual salvation is between Jesus and you; it’s just my job to bring the Good News so that you can make an informed decision. Now there are Christian cults with hard-sell recruitment. But it’s unfair to accuse someone who is not using those tactics, of using those tactics 😉
Thank you , this conversation is so interesting and the words spoken by Calvin are what my husband and I think and agree with. If only our politicians , the Woke, the Elite and the MSM thought the same way, life would be so much better. What is happening in Britain at the moment is horrifying and I am so pleased we are no longer living there, one day Islam will take over and then we are doomed 🥲🥲
As I get older it becomes more and more obvious to me how so much of our beliefs (whether religious, political or cultural) are based on emotion rather than evidence and reason.
Well, we all have our own particular BELIEFS, but ultimately, there exists objective truth, which is not subject to our misconceptions and misunderstandings. One who has transcended mundane, relative truth, is said to be an ENLIGHTENED soul. 😇
while a welcome observation, what took you so long? My 'teenage rebellion' was telling my RE teacher at Catholic school she was talking bollocks. One could say exactly the same regarding politicians who incite 'god' in their pronouncements -all equally disgusting.
@@MorningtonCrescent It didn't take me long with regard to religion and cultural beliefs. I think it necessary to say that religious/spiritual/metaphysical beliefs can be logical and reasoned (theologians from Eriugena to David Bentley Hart are evidence enough of that), but it seems to me that most people's religious beliefs are moved by emotion rather than philosophical rigour. It took me longer to notice how much of our political inclinations are emotional and rationalised after the fact. It may be a result of naivety, or a lack of insight into my own inclincations and processes -- I'm not sure.
They are for most people- but some of us have learned to avoid that trap. I might make emotional decisions over girls or what to have for lunch, but NOT important philosophical ideas.
Well, Slave, we all have our own particular BELIEFS, but ultimately, there exists objective truth, which is not subject to our misconceptions and misunderstandings. One who has transcended mundane, relative truth, is said to be an ENLIGHTENED soul. 😇
Nothing worse than a regressive. The way the view the world is so 2 dimensional and boorish. It is a tedious conversation. Everything is terrible because it is not like it use to be and we need to get back to the old ways when everything was so great. Watever buddy.
Calvin Robinson is a thoroughly good man. He has the guts to say what he really believes. I think he would be a very good friend to have if one needed advice. This was a really interesting interview by an interviewer I like of a man of principles who is through and through a good person. We need people like this to speak up for the world we British have lost to the extremist left.
Sorry, but the death of Christianity has nothing to do with competition with other religions or ideologies. It is dying due to people not buying it anymore. And a priest saying no one can control us if we're Christian is off the charts ironic & ridiculous. Equally ridiculous is telling us we have to choose one evil over the other 🙄 We can be sovereign and freeminded and choose none of the options proffered by this world.
@@willnestor6422 so weird: my comments keep disappearing. Perhaps the better word is diminishing since dying implies it will disappear, when it'll probably just keep morphing in order to keep peoples' minds trapped.
I just find his attitude so presumptuous & condescending. I certainly wasn't born with any god imprinted on my heart. It's just such an odd statement to me. Also, saying if you don't believe in Jesus you believe in anything is just flat out insulting. He's basically calling everyone gullible and stupid. Wild.
You are getting upset at someone expressing their belief. It's his religion, Christians believe that all men have been given enough to know God exists and unbelievers "suppress the truth in all unrighteousness." He's being asked about his faith and expressing it. Why does it bother you? It's not HIS attitude, it's Christianity. Religions all have beliefs, you'll end up very unhappy if it bothers you personally what adherents think of your unbelief. And he's not calling you gullible, he's saying men seek meaning and have inbuilt instincts that lead them to seek meaning, hold up some things as "sacred," make idols etc. If you don't have belief in God you will still seek those things and find them in causes, or money, or hedonism.
That attitude seems to be a part of the package. Not many Christians are able to leave it behind. And well, why would you if you think God backs you up?
First time listening to your channel. Fantastic interview with great questions that i would ask. Im definitely going to look into more on Calvin as i found him very engaging. I particularly enjoyed his explanations on topics. Im on a faith journey myself, and I've been looking for guidance on certain matters. Thank you. I will be tuning in again.
Never thought to see Fr. Robinson featured as a heretic! I really appreciate him. As a religious person, I like to watch Heretics to understand unbelievers better. It gives me ideas about how to speak to them, without coming on to strong about faith.
Interesting as always, you cant deny we have lost something with the decline of Christianity that was the cornerstone of our culture and laws, what seems to be replacing it is a rolling disaster. So many cultural norms under attack with disastrous consequences.
This man seems to be rather naive in his views. Women don't need to have children to have a fulfilled life and men don't need to be the breadwinner to be successful or content. Everyone has the right to decide for themselves what they want to do in life.
I don't think religion is the answer. In my opinion most of the problems in the world can be laid at the feet of religion. Science and reason is our best hope not mysticism and myth.
"For the Lord himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God. The dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we, which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord" (1 Thes. 4:16). The dead in Christ shall rise first. Then, in the twinkling of an eye, all of us together are caught up into the heavenlies to meet the Lord Jesus Christ.
I am an atheist. I don't believe in the existence of God. There is insufficient evidence or rational justification to support the belief in any gods or supernatural entities. I rely on reason, logic, and empirical evidence to form my worldview and do not find compelling evidence or arguments to support the existence of god.
Studies that cannot be replicated, conducted by people who have a monetary incentive, a scientific apparatus that inserts presumptions prior to studies, and confirmed by peers from a select elite careerist cartel. No issues with atheism, but wait a few years and much of what you believe will be “disproven” by the cohort of scientists with different employers. Much of what we believe, whatever the source, is variable and changes over time.
I love Calvin, I always have, but there are so many points I've got to disagree with here. I'm white British. I'm also a conservative atheist. My family history is we were all from SE London. None of us were religious, we're just generations of working class londoners. None of my family are "woke" and my 10 year old son would even describe himself as gender critical. It's not so much that humans need to believe in something, it's more the fact we're tribal. We need to feel we belong to something. The rise of the woke hasn't coincided with the death of religion, it's gone hand in hand with the death of patriotic love for where we live. Britain has become a dirty word. You're not allowed to say you love Britain or you're proud of being English. If you say that the likes of James O'Brian start calling you a knuckle dragging brexit supporting gammon who loves being a coloniser. Now it's, take your flags down, say sorry for absolutely everything that's happened over the past 1000 years and pray that when you do an online DNA test you've got a bit of brown ethnicity in there somewhere. It's hideous. If you can't even be proud of your country then what are you left with? God can't fill that gap. But being part of a different club will
@someonethatisachristian I've listened to him before, and the problem I find with Americans is that they see the world through an American lense. Nothing he says relates to anything going on outside of the USA.....sorry. The British form of Conservative is NOTHING like the Americans think it is. We might speak the same language (just about), but that's as far as our similarities join
I am a Catholic Christian. Love your show. Great conversations and exploration of the lives, thoughts and personalities of people I likely would not ever meet..let alone come to know, understand and converse with.
Andrew, being Jewish is belonging to a people. You can choose to think and do whatever you like , freedom of choice for sure, but you can never stop being a Jew. It's there for life.
No such thing as JD, they are separate mindsets. As for values, slavery, misogyny, killing of groups you disagree with including wife and children. Nothing to be proud of a stupid story that you don’t seem to fully understand controlling your thinking.
Here's one thing I never see discussed - Yes it is true that the last 1000 years of European history have been informed by Judaeo-Christian thought. That being said though, the simple fact of the matter is that Judaeo-Christianity was and is an imported, foreign Faith. It is not native to Europe. What I wonder is this: In what ways did the Pre-Christian beliefs of Europeans inform how they processed, interpreted, and ultimately accepted the Judaeo-Christian ethos? After all, nothing just 'happens'. There had to be something unique about how that particularly European strain of Paganism gradually morphed into Western Judaeo-Christianity as we understand it today. I don't think many people ever ask that question. Because Western Christianity is doubtless not the same as the original Middle Eastern Christianity. There is 'something' in it that is uniquely of the West, and uniquely of the soul of Europe and that is far, far older than merely the last 1000 years.
@@ciaranmeeks9431 One of those things is that they took pagan holidays and put Christian holidays on them, as well as including pagan traditions. Christmas and Easter for example, the concept of Christmas trees.
Really enjoy Andrew Gold's interviews, who let's people talk. Just brilliant minds, exploring Christianity, Islam, Jewish religions, in truthful dialog. Bringing current issues to people who, if they listen to the subject and what is actually happening will see the truth of what is happening in our world.
34:51 very naive and only perceived from a male view. Women's voices were not heard through history and for the working classes, women would also go out to work.
@@CrystalJ7 I read it attending Sunday school as a kid. It basically regarded women as slaves to men rather than individuals in their own right. Reads like it was written by a naive man, which is perhaps why men like this one sound so uninformed.
From my memory, in AUSTRALIA AROUND, 1950'S/60'S WE HAD MASSIVE IMMIGRATION.... FROM CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES....ITALY, GREECE, if Any others I don't remember...the families who came here integrated into society's norms. They studied and spoke English. Elders who did not speak English were CARED FOR BY THE FAMILY TILL DEATH..... They brought their culture, imported and sold their food, opened restaurants and sold their food .. they INTEGRATED INTO THE AUSSIE NORM......I'm 69, I had good ethnic friends all my life, including native people's....We do have a large Muslim community, slightly radical but overall integrated.......But our government needs overhauling..... Blessings darlings from Granny Linda in OZ......
34:40 he says people were happier before but it's impossible for him or really anybody to know how happy or fulfilled people were when you can die at 20 from a tooth infection.
approx 25mins...a "chance meeting?". In Hebrew there is a word "moed", which means God's appointed times....there are the 7 main festivals in Judaism which moed alludes to, then there is another of God's moedim..the Sabbat, then there are also those times which you've just experienced and to which Calvin alludes...these are God's appointed ( and annointed ) times. I am not Jewish but I've been studying Judo/Christianity over the past 18 months....reading and learning the Tanakh and the NT from Messianic Christians has been a blessing. For Andrew I would suggest having a look at Oneforisrael, it will answer a lot of your questions.
If you need to believe in an afterlife and a divine plan to be comfortable then religion is your only option; taken in small quantities the westernized version of Christianity is probably the least damaging. If you don't need to believe in an afterlife and are comfortable with uncertainty and self direction then religious belief should be avoided. What it takes to be a good person and live a satisfying and beneficial life is not a mystery.
The fact is that the online ATHEIST COMMUNITY just can't seem to shut up about how “GOOD” and saintly they are - yes? The online left wing THOUGHT POLICE are fooling no one apart from their brain washed comrades!!
@@MGsubbie Maybe give John Blanchards book a read? (If you havnt already?) "Does God believe in Athiests" Might change your mind? Radically changed my outlook :)
@@adrianrentz5515 Just googling it already makes me know the writer doesn't know what they are talking about. "Atheism is a belief system." No, atheism is the lack of a belief system. "No one can scientifically prove that god doesn't exist." Atheism doesn't necessarily mean the belief that there is no god, lacking the belief of a god is enough already. Atheists don't need to prove anything. Theists believe in a god, the burden of proof is on them, not the other way around. "Therefor atheism is a faith system." Faith is the belief in something without evidence, many atheists need evidence to believe something. "It also pinpoints the flaws in Darwinian evolutionism." LMAO evolutionism. Using anti-scientific rhetoric just makes it another level of stupid. Also, even if god does exist, that doesn't prove Christianity right. It could also be that Islam is right. Or Judaism. Or any of the monotheistic religions. Or it could be that any of the existing religions have the whole thing wrong.
@@MGsubbie Look we are all cultural Christians. I dont know anybody who takes it seriously. You cant compare it with Islam. Islam is a clear and present danger.
@@adrianrentz5515 are you really that naive to think a book written by a religious person is going to change an Atheists mind when your book of "evidence" full of the "word of god" isn't enough! No atheists would change their mind because of a book of opinions by a theist, only a doubting theist looking for justification would fall for that
While I can’t disagree with him about Christianity-as-such (as I am not as familiar with it as him) his account of the birth of ‘woke’ is lazy and badly thought out. He seems to think Marxism and liberalism are the same thing, when the former existed (in its original form) as a critique of liberalism. Marxism is antithetical to liberalism (I’m not talking about the colloquial use of the term that’s gained currency in the US; I’m talking about property rights, individual rights and basic freedoms). The route from liberalism to ‘woke’, via Marx, Nietzsche, the Frankfurt School and some of the postmodern thinkers (barring Foucault, who was explicitly critical of Marx) is complicated and Robinson shows how little he knows about it. Also, he is wrong to claim that the only options are ‘woke’ and Christianity. I am not Christian and do not consider the supposed ‘Christian values’ to be Christian at all, but rather social values that were incorporated into The Bible due to their utility; however, I am also opposed to ‘woke’ and the stultifying effect it has on social, academic and political discourse. Robinson doesn’t come across very well in this interview (which is a pity, because Andrew Gold isn’t very good at pushing back and questioning his guests). I am quite sure he could outmanoeuvre me as far as theology is concerned, but as someone who has spent the last 25 years studying and teaching philosophy I can say with near-certainty that he could stand to learn a little more.
Andrew, this is the first time I've had to leave one of your programs because it made me so damn mad! I've never heard so much arrogance, judgementalism, political religion in one show before. What religion is God a member of? Pfffffffttttttttt!
Christianity is deeply offensive, isn't it? And I say that as a Christian. You asked what religion God is a member of? God is not a member of any religion, God is completely self sufficient and we cannot add anything to who he is and what He has done. I hope you one day you can put aside your anger and consider the God-man Jesus who stepped into history to deal with humanity and its problems and he did it with love, grace, humility, and truth.
@@ag7075 Never make the assumption that people like me don't believe in God, or Christ. Put aside my anger?! Maybe you need to find yours! Love, Grace, Humility and Truth? I'm not seeing any of that in our leaders, our church leaders...and most of our "christians". As for God belonging to a religion, any idiot knows that God has no religion or they ought to...but it's surprising how many people will try to assign one. I'll say it again. This program was arrogant judgementalism, pure religion, and religious politics...something God actually hates.
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Turin shroud . . .
Why delete comments tho?
Lame.
Your attempt at "shock value" by using descriptive profanity (which is not your normal style) in an attempt to provoke Calvin, failed dismally. Calvin didn't flinch, change his facial expression or his tone of voice.
@@sukisuki6114 It must be YT that deletes comments, not The Heretics team
That was great @andrewgoldheretics I would agree there is a war for the western culture, and woke will not stand up to Islam. Christian values that built western countries will not stand against Islam when so many are happy to use what it has created, without the discipline to pass it on to future generations. Calvin is right, a new world is being created while we are asleep at the wheel as we allow crazies and ideologues drive decision making.
Woke has been the biggest gift to Extreme Islamism!!!!
Yes definately, Islam has useful idiots to do the work for them...thats why Muslims in the US will always vote demorcrat.
Atheism is the gift, woke is the offspring of atheism.
@maggieattenborrow6725
Islam achieves more than the Left!!! The Left too disinterested in attacking themselves!!!
Indeed, and it’s not coincidental.
Liberalism is trying to destroy Christianity but will end up with Islam.
Thank you, Rev. Calvin, for standing up for the truth and speaking the truth about who Jesus is. I'm an ex-Muslim who is a Christian. Jesus rescued me from the darkness of Islam and brought me to his light. I'm eternally grateful for what he has done for me in the cross. 🙏🙌✝️🕎
Amen 😇🙏✝️
So, you moved from one sect to another. Very revealing.
@@mayhu3282 I was in darkness before, now I know the truth. That Jesus is the alpha and the omega. In his name every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord. Jesus seeks relationship with us, not religion (or denomination). I am a Bible believing Christian. I don't place my salvation on a denomination.
If you think your Captain America or Flying Spaghetti Monster can rescue you from trouble, then, my friend, I am very worried about you. Because only Jesus can do that. 😏
@@mayhu3282if you don’t know and can’t see that Christianity and Islam are not sects within the same religion, you ignoring some basic facts, hard facts
Praise the Lord! Welcome back to the living! 🙏❤💪✝
As a non Brit, I would strongly advise British people to take seriously people like Calvin and their vision for the nation in the face of the Islamic cultural and potential political threat.
Until they wake up to the zionist hand behind mass immigration, they are of no real use unfortunately
As a Brit, Calvin is disgusting. He degrades his own country every day.
Calvin doesn’t even know what queer means. These people are arrogant.
@@teganflyman5352in what ways
As a Brit, I would cordially invite you to fuck the fuck off and mind your own business.
Calvin is a shining light in an increasingly dark era. May he continue to spread God’s love around the world.
He wants women back in the home as men's property
How do you know that?
@@ASMRyouVEGANyetgood because working is shit for the majority of woman they want to be at home with the kids cooking for the man they love.
Very dark times and we have to hold on to God.
@@ASMRyouVEGANyetyou’re blind.
who recites quran is muslim
who understands quran leaves islam.
Same could be said of the Bible.
There is no such thing as judeo Christianity.... It is a perversion of Christianity....
St ignatious.....
Jesus called the pharisees "Synogogue of satan"
They killed Jesus Christ and the prophets before him.. And have persecuted us severely....
They are displeasing to God and are enemies of all humanity..... St Paul Romans
Atheist, Liberalism, socialism, Marxism, communism.... Is satanism... Denying God....
Bahomet is transgender.... Goats head, breasts, male genitals...
If you deny Jesus Christ, he will deny you before the Angels of God....
England was catholic for a thousand yrs.... One God, one faith, one truth........ Until the apostate Henry 8th...
A pope once described England as a landscape of monasteries.... Without Christian morals...commandments of God... We become our own little gods..... Original sin... We are all born as sinners..... Jesus Christ is the only way, truth and life.... We all have an eternal soul....We are in a spiritual war.... These days are wicked....
God bless!
Christ is king!
Ave Maria!
That is true! The problem is that Islam still (and probaly forever) intolerant and utterly political. No text hermeneutics, unshakable... so, very opposed to our civilization (secularism, enlightnement, freedom of choice, etc., not perfect of course)
@@josephblue4135 sounds like you haven’t read it yet. Give it a try!
It's lie and misconception. You will see a very few Arabic Speaking leave islam. Quran is simple arabic not a rocket science. People normally leaving islam are mostly non arabic speaker.
So many muslims are becoming Christians. I watched videos where ex Muslims give their testimony how Jesus came to them in a vision and dreams. They accepted Jesus into their lives, and now they feel at peace. God is not interested in religion but in a relationship. Maranatha
Unfortunately in prison a lot of christians become Muslims😮
@@charlenejulius8501 Yes, you're right. I am one of them. 🙏🙌
ALLAAHU AKBAR!
God called those with the right heart, a listening attitude and reasoning.
The true battle of any Christian is not about the Muslim , because they're already believe in God but différently they're more close to us but away us . True battle Is the LGBT community Is continuing to corrupt our youth, the lesbianism who perverted our girls that is thé Real fight because there is more lesbian than homosexual plus thé battle of weak Christian to give them force to arm their faith
25:58 white English Brit here, did 18 years in London from 2004 to 2022, it went from cosmopolitan to mainly Islam - at least in the NW8 area where I lived. Awful.
Mostly Muslim migrants are able to be housed there, claiming close family ties to the are via previous immigrants, so they get the social housing in zone 1/2 area. The council are filled with their ilk, helping each other. Then those working pay thousands to live besides them (that was me) while they don’t work, don’t talk English, act as if they still live in the Middle East. Then the shops go their way, the schools are filled with their offspring - and you look around as a native white Brit and it no longer looks like England. So you leave….
Is all over. The councillors, and politicians are becoming muszlim face and. Is boldening them up. You see them wearing hijabi on tv, parliament etc!!! They are here to take over!!! Wake up and tell your kids about this cult!!!
That’s how they carved out entire countries and have created many “hot zones” around d globe that r going in that direction now, some may take few decades, some may take longer. But they eventually win. U know y? Cause they r relentless. And they’re always inventing new ways to expand, one inch at a time. How do u stand against such a machinery??
Sad people have to leave.. Globalists Blair ,Starmer to continue it
Try West Yorkshire
I'm of f to Thailand retirement visa
Im spiritual not religious, but if i had to choose it would definitely be Christianity. In Christianity Jesus died for humanity and our sins, in Islam you have to kill and die for Allah.
@@sar7440 Christianity believes a human sacrifice is moral.
It also believes someone else can take your punishment.
Why would you think that was admirable? It's disgusting.
What does "spiritual" even mean?
@@sandersson2813i didn't know that 😮, where did Jesus say to dothat in the New Testament? Cos they kept that quiet!
@@sandersson2813you condone abortion, so by your logic, you enjoy the fruits of that child sacrifice. 🤔
@@davidjohnbonnett just for the record, Jesus has never said that. That user is getting half remembered/told bits from Leviticus wrong, and out of context. But like all good atheists; worship at the altar of Dawkins and LGBTb&q ideology nonsense.
@@ChristianRobotHead I'm not talking about Leviticus, I'm talking about the entire Jesus myth being based on absolving humankind of the mythical act of sin by being a human sacrifice.
How can you think it's moral to do that?
Comparing the immigrants in England to Latinos in the United States is utter nonsense. Latinos are predominantly Catholic, so we share a religious faith, and we also share pretty much the same values. Latinos in the United States fit in seamlessly with white Americans, except among bigots who hate everyone who isn't exactly like they are.
What about the other 130 countries detritus that has washed ashore.
So like alphabet creatures hating decent people?
I've said exactly this for so long.
even black Americans to black africans is a strange comparison.
Bingo. Although roman catholic is not biblical christianity compared to islam its a step in the right direction.
I think of wokeism as the new religion. I am an atheist. I believe in science, critical thinking, reason, and rational thinking. Women are adult human females. I never bent my knee for black lives matter. I don't believe in critical race theory etc.
I'm a Christian, I believe in science,critical thinking,reason.and rational thinking.
if you really belive in science, critical thinking, reason and rational thinking you know nothing come out of nothing, that matter isnt eternal but that time and matter had to come from something eternal and non mathereal (God) for a start.
You also know randomness didnt assemble a cell in a fraction of the second which is the simplest form of life which depend on a hugely complex DNA code, digestive system, ability to navigate, replicate itself perfectly etc the second it started living. It took a creator for life to happen, like with the universe.
REASON AND RATIONAL THINKING??? TELL ME THEN WHAT IS UNSELFISH SACRIFICIAL LOVE? IT'S CERTAINLY NOT RATIONAL IN THIS FALLEN WORLD BUT IT STILL EXISTS
Wokeism cannot be a religion since it accepts nearly all religious views and that's what Calvin's problem is.
He cannot convince many people that his religious views are true or even well meaning and so he wants the state to force people to believe the same thing as he does
17th century ,Pascale said it is better to believe in Jesus/God
than not to believe because when you die and there is a heaven and hell
and you deny Jesus; where do you go.?
What founded the western civilisation = catholicism, 10 commanments,
put God first...........hospitals, universities , soup kitchens, orphanages
our creativity...the one true faith from Jesus; CATHOLIC church
This is an excellent interview. Thank you for taking the time to ask questions so kindly and with respect. God bless you Andrew Gold.
Agree!
Then unfortunately some voices enjoy sparring so a discussion is treated as debate.
34:25 Think Calvin missed the mark here. The second half of that Ephesians 5 teaching is, “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her”, and “in this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies.” The church teaches male headship, but it’s the sort of headship that Christ displayed, servant leadership. Women aren’t being asked to unquestioningly obey a man who treats her like a slave - they’re being asked to respect and serve a man who in turn is giving up his life to serve her, putting her needs before his own. It’s a pretty radical ask - not what a bloke who just wanted to sit and be brought sandwiches would have written. CS Lewis puts it pretty well in The Four Loves: “Is it not clear that this teaching is most faithfully lived out in that man whose marriage is most like a crucifixion?”
Absolutely. The way I have see. It explained is as a perfect balance. The woman obeys the man but the man would rather die than do anything to hurt the woman so it is a perfect balance in the way people in the Middle East 2000 years ago would have accepted equality between husband and wife.
I agree, saying we are here to serve men and not here to serve God, as a single woman am I supposed to walk around serving all men I meet??!! He hasn’t explained it very well and nor did he emphasise that women do have equal value to men - or maybe he does think we have an inferior role, many Christians do think we don’t directly serve God. We do.
Thank you! So many people skip right over this passage…
It is called complementary, men should love their wives and wives serve the family and community under the leadership of their husbands.
Feminism as a liberal ideology (meaning that freedom and equality are the moral centres) is not compatible with Christianity at all, to which slavery itself is not immoral but rather a temptation to it, in much the same way as any having power over another may be tempted to misuse it and thus must be restrained by morality.
Christianity is hierarchical and patriarchal (God is the supreme patriarch and as a result the hierarchies imitate that relationship in form and function), it is a religion of bonds and responsibilities, not of freedom and desire.
I think he would support the fullness of the scripture you referenced. It was a quick reference and so much discussed there was not time to unpack. He spoke in the very broadest sense about it.
It's always great to listen to Father Calvin Robinson ,very knowledgeable and kind men ,I wish more clergy man was like him.
Good on ya Andrew for having Calvin on and being able to talk amicably About you differences. Brilliant and illuminating
Forbid islam in Europe and make a law of it.
Lol so u can only fight islam by making it illegal?😂 what a shame
@@zacka9438 yes. We do it on a legal way. Islam don't.
@@zacka9438 shame on you to defend islam. You defend hate, pedophilia, violence and intolerance. That's islam.
@zacka9438 could do it the same way they do. Charge muslims another tax for living here.
the real Aramaic name of Jesus Christ is Iso/Isho in his mother tongue. He called upon his lord with the titles Elah/Elohim/Allaha/illah. He prayed to one creator of the Heavens and the Earth as did the Jewish tribes he was sent too, as did all the messengers and Prophets before him. People claim to follow Jesus but don't even know his real name.
Workeism or atheism never made Britain great. Christianity did, and Britain became so Great, so developed and so desirable in the eyes of many nations, that it attracted people of different races and creeds.The problem today is that Britain has left Christianity and other ideologies and creeds are fighting for the soul the beloved kingdom.
Britain must return to Christ if it wishes to survive all the changes and still remain the darling of the world.
From a grateful migrant.
This is absolutely correct! Without Christianity Britain is no longer Great and the same can be said of America.
We really miss all the witch burnings and heresy trails and inquisitions.
The West has progressed due to enlightenment values that are often in conflict with the bible.
We have been through the fire of religion monopolising our laws and society and we have matured and grown out of it.
We don't want to go through it again. It's time for the Islamic world to go through that same process. Hopefully it won't take 400 years.
@@rossini55, just hang on for a little more, your wish will be granted! 🤣🤣😆😆
Completely agree with you! God bless
Jesus Christ is the only answer. He is the way, the truth and the life.
Amén 🙏
Which one d black Jesus?
@@RojaJaneman it’s “the” not “d”
@@amymellor8602 d black or d white one??
Nah, I am an atheist. I have no trouble fiding truth, love and meaning in my life. But where many people go wrong is that they call themselves atheist and then think they can be done with it. With being an atheist and/ or free thinker comes the responsibility to think about everything, and to think well you need to inform yourself well. And to inform yourself well you need to read, watch, learn and much more. Not everbody wants that. For some people it is better to just believe in something, for others it isn't. Let's make sure that for the people who just want to believe in something, something good is available. But it is not the only way...
Great interview Andrew. Not a Christian but adore Calvin such a smart & eloquent man. Admire his loyalty to his country
I think for every woman who has a nice high income job, there's four or five who are sweating as maids, fast food workers, or nursing home. caretakers being paid tiny amounts by a greedy business industry and trying to support their children as the man has left.
Exactly! They have to support themselves & their children
What a great guest! Andrew’s line up of guests never fails to surprise. All our favourite people! ❤
Big fan of Calvin for quite some time. He makes a tremendous amount of sense and I appreciate his way of communicating. Andrew, I’ve watched you from the beginning of your original programme as well but I admit I am more familiar with Calvin because of his opinion. I have see you more and more on other podcasts or TH-cam channels like Andy Signor PopCorn Palace, Stef the Alternerd, and I caught you on Piers a week or so ago.
Nice seeing you have Calvin on.
Good show.
Thanks!
I’m a Christian.. there is nothing or nobody that can or could take that away from me.✝️🙏🇬🇧
No hope for you then.
@@trevorheywood975 And you are ?
@@trevorheywood975 say no more.
Feminism should not be about becoming male. Rather, it is about equality.
He was talking rubbish there.
Point is, feminism (good or bad, whatever) been hijacked by wokism, hence it leads to women have to actually become men to be equal. That's what communists do, hijack minorities or 'suppressed' and promise them freedom and golden pants, actually leading to real suppression, oppression, discrimination, segregation and all other bad 'ons' and regimes. People get fooled easily.
Equality exists nowhere in nature, not even amongst siblings within the same family.
@@liammccann8763 Equality of opportunity in a modern liberal society.
@@liammccann8763 we aren't same to animals or plants in this aspect
Old feminist here. Fr. Robinson, you are not presenting the feminism of the 70's and 80's as it was or its goals .I have to say this because I was active in the time. A primary goal was for women to be able to function in the economy. I was well over twenty before I could have my own credit card. It took a lot of energy to get that right for women.
I know. I am so fucking tired of seeing feminism mischaracterised by men on the internet. Feminism evolved to fight rampant and obvious sexism and discrimination, like the right to vote, and to keep your property and children after divorce. Then later, equal pay, equal access to education and opportunities.
@@annal2740dont blame all the men on the internet for that veiw of feminist, there are many many evil women who use the word feminism in their arguments against men ie "all men should die" i think like the lgb feminism was hijacked by idiots who want morw and more thanks to the new wave of feminism we have women defending trans men in real women sports a spaces i do not believe that is what you were fighting, i myself at 35 should be happy for what you thought fpr but my own opinion i would be more than happy to not own a credit card or a house, but thats just me
An old feminist here as well.
People today do not understand the basics which we fought for. That we could not get a constitutional amendment in the US was only because of the time. What we fought for was needed.
However, he did make one good point,, women today who choose to stay home and raise children are looked down on.
I stayed home when my children were young, got my degree as an adult, and then went back to work.
I was demeaned, berated, and honestly nullified as a woman .. by other women if I said I was a homemaker.
If I said I was a trial paralegal applying to law school.. suddenly I was acceptable!!
Unluckily even a good much needed idea can be taken too far.
Sadly, in some ways it has. Women have the right to choose what path they take and should not be judged or looked down on because it's not the path you want them to take.
Completely agree no woman should be looked down on whatever path they choose. Interestingly I got the opposite, women criticising me for going back to work after had a baby, saying things like 'you'll miss out on their first steps' and really cruel things like that. I'm the kind of old school feminist who believes both men and women should have the choice to stay at home with the kids or go out to work. Not that many men want to stay at home with their kids because it's bloody hard work and it's so low status in society.
@@annal2740
I couldn't agree more!!
These days women cannot afford not to work
@@andrealeetobias3474 that is indeed true,any family that has only 1 income these days is indeed very poor ,,I get a bit sick of hearing that married women work because they want a career,there is no career in working doing awful repetitive jobs,it is because they want something of a decent lifestyle for there families
Whose fault is that? Women demanding to work originally. Had that standard never become the norm mens work never would have been devalued and we would still be able to run households on one man's income.
@@damarcuscolfer1485for millennia women have always worked. First in the fields, then in the factories, always in the home, often around the clock. The fact our wage was given to our husband doesn’t negate the fact we worked inside and outside the home, which he owned, where he put his feet up. House prices rose when the population increased beyond capacity. Decrease the surplus population and demand will fall and with it the price.
@@catherinerobilliard7662 You're terribly misinformed. No man was putting his feet up in such times and no woman laboured as did man.
@@damarcuscolfer1485 More girls than boys go to University these days.
Finally get to hear this guy speak . Had to switch off the rob Moore podcast as he kept interrupting Calvin.. seen a few of this channels podcasts great to see the host be impartial and allowing guests to speak . Keep up the good work mate 👍
This was such a big conversation! I was about to comment but there's too much to say! You should have him on again! I feel like you didn't go through half your questions. I love seeing two grown human beings exchange without animosity. Very nice and much neeeded
And very appreciated to guide our own choices.
I remember saying this to one of my friends that wokeism is basically another religion which humans are following. Religion at the end of the day is a social construct. I would rather have people be moderately religious than follow wokeism.
@@ResearchReally You don't have to be either.
There is nothing good done by religion that can't be done without it, and being religious, doesn't mean you aren't woke.
Ask Justin Whelby
@@sandersson2813I disagree - and just 4 yrs ago I was happy most religion was gone.. bc I grew up in the Bible Belt. I was wrong. Ppl need some kind of positive, spiritual practice in their lives. Because I went to a moderate (UCC) church as a kid - I know we don’t wish death on those in another political party. These ppl don’t. There’s a massive difference. Obviously there’s a void without some spiritual practice - and this is what we have. You can be a Buddhist or whatever but it’s very clear humans have this need - for whatever reason, and it’s been a disaster to remove spiritual practice from our lives.
@@josiepkat People DO NOT need that.
The best countries to live in within the developed world are the countries which are LEAST religious.
Places like Netherlands, Austria, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Norway, Denmark rank consistently HIGHER than more religious countries and have lower rates of crime and better rates of societal health and higher standards of living.
The world is not a better place due to religion or religious beliefs.
W0ke is a religion yes.
Also communism is a religion.
Cult.
There difference between faith and praising
I'm an Atheist. I think Christians are going to have to save us from Islam.
Explore the Christian faith seriously yourself; do an Alpha course! There are so few Christians in Britain today and we need more people on board!
Christian cannot save you from islam, only God can. it is a weapon used by Satan, and also, a judgement that can be used by God. this nation has mostly turned its back on God, now we are reaping what we sowed. only God can stop it, if the nation repents, then that would be a win win. but will it happen. no.
The ones with guns?
Try praying
Women are not there to obey men! I believe in family life. If I study physics, I am not staying at home to obey a man but using my skills to benefit society, for example. Objective truth is important.
Just don’t try and mimic men as men mimic at the minute. We are different and should be proud.
Excellent interview.
Feminism is a lie based on a Godless world-view. These lies are currently destroying the world
@@clovermark39 I know plenty of women who have jobs outside the home - some in high positions and some in low ones. Not a single one of them imitates men.
The greatest contribution to society a woman can give is to be a nurturing feminine woman who loves her family and prioritizes her family first.
Damn you Andrew... I had work to do and you dropped this interview. Fascinating discussion (I am strong atheist). I don't agree with all of Mr Robinson's points, but think the discussion is very important and well reasoned.
Being an atheist does not mean a person is bad, atheists that I know have strong moral views, and are good citizens, love their Country, and make up their own minds based on the evidence as it is relayed from many different sources.
@@maggieattenborrow6725 Morals which you got from christianity. Without christian morals, atheists have absolutely nothing, and we start seeing where atheism leads now as the christian moral flowers which atheism picked from christianity are dying in atheism without being watered by the biblical belief system, and atheism degenerate into wokeism and barbarism.
I am strong man.💪
I agree. I often hear believers assuming they are the only ones with morals & values. Such arrogance!
I am not religious nor am I "woke"
Have you ever used psychedelics?
@@murugindungu5643 Yes
@@murugindungu5643 How is that relevant?
@@joeknowles6880they don't need either?
Yeah. It's a false binary used to whip up clicks based on beating the "woke" boogeyman into the ground while backdoor advocating for the older mythology-based social order. You can have a moral society without either. It's funny that Andrew mentioned magical thinking when referring to wokeism but doesn't call out Christianity as being fairytale based.
I listened to this today while working. I was bought up in religion, very strict Baptist church, hell fire, damnation, and the apocalypse were front and centre, old testament was read as much as new testament. I am now an atheist and have been since I was 14 yrs old, I am now 49. The conviction Calvin has is what you would expect from a man of the cloth, the unwavering belief in what he's read in the bible is still puzzling to me. He tried to downplay the importance of the old testament to religion and I think this because it's not the look the Christian faith wants now, they're trying to soften the vengeful cruel god of the old and replace with a kind god of the new testament. I struggle with an intelligent person, as he appears to be, accepting that this book is the absolute and utter truth and should be believed regardless of how fanciful it is. A lot of religious people wanted to ban Harry Potter because of the magic, but what on earth is being resurrected from the dead if not magic? What's the difference between believing in god, jesus, the holy spirit and believing in say tinkerbell, the tooth fairy or easter bunny books have been written about them also. From my personal experience religion is about control and fear nothing more.
Thanks Andrew for your amazing work
Queer was a name for homosexuals in the eightys.
And long before that. It comes from 'queer as a nine bob note': bob = shilling, and there used to be a ten shilling (bob) note. Queer also meant "different" to the norm, in any way a person wants to interpret it, and that's how they like to interpret it.
Queer just means Strange, and Gay means happy. They co-opt these words as self-descriptors because Sodomite or Homosexual are much too honest descriptors. They dont like being described. They prefer being celebrated regardless of their obvious sins and flaws.
Well, looks like it's back in fashion again.
What dies the Q stand for in LGBTQ+...?
I love this !! Good job Andrew being curious and respectful.
Well done, Calvin as usual
Calvin Robinson is literally a godsend. We need more people like him. Sincere, unapologetic, not afraid of Islam, liberal wokeism or challenges politics and culture.
It's difficult to disagree with Calvin but the whole issue of women in paid work started in ernest during the war effort, not through feminism. Greedy companies have perpetuated this so that now women *have* to work in order to afford to have children. And yes, I'm speaking as a wife and mother. My husband and I could not have had our family without my financial contribution. That is what we need to fix. One full time wage should be able to pay a mortgage and support a family.
Working class women have always worked but had to stop when they had kids. Women going back to full time work is modern. It was just accepted women neeed time to raise the kids. How hard was it feeding your babys though the night? Then being expected tpo work a full day is modern maddness, Psychology and scociology can list all the problems kids will get if not nutured. Even breast feeding your kid will give it 8 IQ extra. Diffrernce between pass and fail at gcse. Read some Femenists they have wanted radical socal change for 100 years. Even the hatred for the normal society was there from the start. You are correct modern society and needing two full wages is a serrious problem. We will have seriuos socal up heavl in 10 years if not fixed.
Hear hear! I am saying this for years... Me and my wife both work part-time, so our kids have 1 full time parent so to say. But this is not possible for everybody and I think it is a shame. Every parent deserves quality time with their children, it is one of the most important things the life of a parent has to offer. This is absolutely something that needs to be fixed. It will also fix the low birth rate issue. One average full time salary should enable a family to buy a home and maintain a family.
But it isn't. Because of Capitalism.
these videos always give plenty of food for thought, thanks so much.
You're a great interviewer, Andrew Gold, I found your channel via Coleman Hughes.
I love Calvin Robinson! He is a man of great courage and wisdom. I admire you for having him on… now I love your podcasts even more.
We need more Christians like Calvin Robinson who're not afraid to speak out against the future destruction of our christian communities and cultures. Too many priests are woke, it's like that age old saying of a Turkey voting for Christmas.
Amen
As an ex Muslim cannot possibly go along with wokeness.
This guy is incredible!! I need someone like him around me all of the time. I also so much appreciate and respect the interviewer, being an atheist, with his patience and openness to let the priest finish his thoughts and so civilly add to it.. what a great example of 2 people in different journeys having a logical conversation and walking away friends.. why can’t we all do this!? Fantastic conversation, God bless you both! As far as Calvin goes, I know he’s heard it before, but we would love you in the catholic faith! You think catholic, and talk catholic.. not what certain Catholics say but the true faith! My heart warms when he mentions the Eucharist! But, I’ve heard you before, I understand… we Catholics love you so much! A lot of times saying things that our priests don’t say.. this from a cradle catholic..❤️
You have created a wonderful show, Andrew, as only you can. I so enjoyed this episode. I truly hope that you get to know Jesus Christ within your life - it is truly amazing having a relationship with him in one's life - truly beautiful - believe me, I know! I made up my mind to find Jesus 30 years ago, and I chose the Alpha Course in order to help me do that - it really helped me explore Christianity. I hope, one day, to hear you declare on your show (perhaps with Calvin again) that you have found Christ and embrace him in your life.
What an interesting talk! I really enjoyed! Different meanings and beliefs but totally respecting each other! Both of you are a very good example of how journalism shoukd work. I am from Germany and I hope I can express appropriately what I mean...I wish we would have more priests in the catholic church in Germany like Calvin Robinson!!!!!
There are definitely more choices than Christianity or Islam. I can live a moral life as an agnostic, I don't need fairy stories to teach me how to be a decent human being.
Exactly
Obviously true. But I think you missed the point of his argument. Without any religion, we will become secular. But then we will devolve into thinking all religions or no religion is acceptable. Then Islam will take over forcing compliance.
@evieblessed I don’t know if you’ve been brought up in a Judo-Christian culture, Islamic culture, culture of nature-based spirituality or whatever, but most people are from a society which traditionally had some sort of belief (or fairy story if you want to call it that). I think that society influences us in terms of our values and morals, even if we and our relatives don’t follow any particular belief. Where does your idea of decent human being come from?
Islam of today expects you to obey like Christianity did before the enlightenment era. I am an atheist of a mixed Islamic heritage. I would suggest every westerner that cares about their freedom actively hold on to western Christian values. Islam should not be accommodated. Probably too late though.
If you think like that you are deluded
Sometimes a wife is more qualified than her husband to make a decision. Marriage should be a partnership in which either partner can veto the other's decision. Not a dictatorship where the man says what goes and the woman just has to put up with it. Somebody will probably say the man should consult his wife but the man should make the final decision. Sorry but no, some things are deal breakers that can't be compromised
Not true. This is the current Godless view of marriage, but it doesn’t work and has lead to countless broken relationships and out of control children.
So what do we women do when men let us down?When men committed adultery/Leave the family home etc. When men do not provide for
our children ? the answer is that we have to get on with it we have to provide for our children if our men won’t, we HAVE to.
Men have failed for sure.
All of people who say they think Christianity is good but don't believe should give the bible a go. It's your heritage.
Christianity and ‘God’ seems to at its core encapsulate love, care, heart and warmth. Islam seems to be the polar opposite of this…
Nothing says love like complaining about Muslims and Islam.
@@keksi6844 fair enough, now let’s hear what the Muslims think of everyone else? Oh silence… because they beheaded all the men for being Kafir, and r-ped all the girls and women…
Er.... have you read sone if the stuff in the Bible?
Not very "loving".
@@rossini55Difference being Christians are not taught to mimic the violence etc of the OT. There has been no reform of the Koran- huge difference
@juliechurley2716 Well, it's not that the bible has been reformed, it's that the West has been through the Enlightenment, so Christianity has been domesticated. What thus does show is that Christians are BETTER than their God.
Skimming through this, I happened to stop at "Men are there to serve God, and women are there to serve men". That's enough. Bye.
I know! That got my juices going .... Is he advocating for harems?! Most churches I attend are with Matthew Henry who regarded women as equal
@@HannahMetcalfe-m8f Dunno, I thought we at least sorted that one out. We are on 'transwomen' now, innit?
@@Globaldave1970 I wonder if there would be the same amount of people identifying as "transwomen" if they were expected to "serve men" .... Perhaps that's why some "Christians" (hopefully a minority!) are keen to promote that ideology. I don't think it's justified.
Sounds like Islam light tbh
@@wjdeoliveira3809 If this guy is saying women are slaves to men and if Islam shares this view: then this man is more in line with Islam than Christianity
Andrew , you are an excellent journalist. Thanks .
I thoroughly enjoyed this.
Priest guy passes the vibe check with flying colours.
I WANT to believe in God, but I can't just turn my brain over to some belief I've never once in my life held. My Grandparents were church goers, but I was too young to ever understand anything before they passed. How do I find God if I can't even begin to believe he exists? I'm not trying to be funny here, this is a genuine dilemma, I at this point in my life just do not believe, and I have absolutely no direction, no hope or spiritual fulfillment am I to always feel so empty? I'm a victim of my lifetime of skepticism I suppose, it's a double edged sword.
I never felt happy being atheist. But I am, and I can't on a whim change that.
Talk to Jesus Christ, even if it seems blindly. Ask him to help you to find him. There is only one way to God and that is through Jesus Christ. He said, I am the Way, the Truth and the Life no one comes to the Father (God) except through me. Let go as if to surrender and Jesus will hear you.
I will pray for you, God Bless and guide you to him. With Christian love.
I ended up realizing that the burden of proof rested with God (if He existed), but that proof might not satisfy the demands of empiricism because the spirit is another plane of existence.
So I prayed, “If you exist, and you want me to be a good person, then you should want to help me to be a good person. I want to be able to like people as much as I like dogs.”
The first answer was a sensation I can’t describe, with the word, “*Gratitude. Gratitude.*”
It took about five years of tentative searching before I realized that I really did believe in God, and the supernatural joy that followed felt like my feet weren’t touching the ground, and I couldn’t wipe the smile off my face. I’ve heard a few other converts describe this feeling.
Seek, and you shall find.
@@LettyKI'll do so, thanks for your consideration.
I like the idea of "cultural christian" as an atheist myself.
I find a lot of what Calvin said to be utter religious nonsense.
Agreed. He seems like such a logical person. I don't understand how he makes that last little leap to get to God. I am with him all the way until that last little step. Plus I don't think you can use the contents of the Bible to prove the legitimacy of itself. Seems like circular reasoning to me.
There will BE NO " cultural christians", once Christianity is GONE ! What are you saying?!
I think the same thing about many atheist.
Something from nothing makes absolutely no sense.
It's either that, (something from nothing, which is impossible), or there's a creator. Whether He wants something to do with us or not is the real question.
@@TheoHawk316 In that case, who created the creator?
@@TheoHawk316 it's hard to rap your mind around but there has never been nothing even a void is something quotuim physics suggest that there has to be atoms to make a void there for the universe has a weight a structure that to even have no physical material in it would make something there just can't be nothing.
Calvin is wrong in regards to who serves who. The Bible actually says that both men and women first serve God, and both men and women serve family, and each other, NOT that men serve God and women serve men. Neither men nor women are to be selfish and serve only themselves and their own interests and goals.
Oh Andrew. Thank you for not being sexist like some of your guests. I have had both. I’ve been a stay at home mom and I’ve had work. And it’s just nonsense to think having kids is fulfilling for every woman. It’s mostly drudgery. I’m sure it works for some that way but it’s soul destroying for many of us.
Or saying that men are more logical and women are more emotional, that’s simply not true. Men are extremely emotional but they tend to experience every emotion that isn’t happiness as anger and therefore they tamp it down. Women are more easily able to label different emotions and express them, usually. You know men have high emotionality because of all the crimes they commit, when they don’t suppress their anger.
I don’t think Calvin understands or even likes women. I think Andrew does.
❤ I love to hear Calvin. Thank you for having him on.
Thanks for hosting the interview Andrew.
I’m an atheist too and I’m intrigued by the dialectical dogma and alt worldview that you were able to draw out.
I was lucky enough to attend lectures as a student by actual heretic Lloyd Geering. I grew up as a Preachers Kid and it wasn’t a great experience which is why I’m a committed atheist. As an involuntarily childless woman I find the focus on reproduction and loss of women’s rights a step backwards for equity rights and inclusivity.
When god created men she was only joking 🙃.
As an atheist I can’t accept that it’s a choice between woke or religion. They’re the same thing
No, they are polar opposites in fact.
@islakay who mentioned 'quiet'????
@islakay haha!
@islakayTrue. Most of us are so afraid of being seen as pushy jerks that we hardly dare to tell people what we really believe, that God created them to love them, that Jesus became a man and died to save them. That’s good news ❤
The real trick is to try not to condemn the gospel and the Bible before really trying to explore God with an open mind. Faith is not impossible for thinking people, if they invite God to speak to their lives (former atheist, here).
@islakay Well, He doesn’t give us quotas ☺️ He doesn’t care whether we bring in revenues. It’s not about the head count; the actual salvation is between Jesus and you; it’s just my job to bring the Good News so that you can make an informed decision.
Now there are Christian cults with hard-sell recruitment. But it’s unfair to accuse someone who is not using those tactics, of using those tactics 😉
One of your best ever!❤
Thank you , this conversation is so interesting and the words spoken by Calvin are what my husband and I think and agree with. If only our politicians , the Woke, the Elite and the MSM thought the same way, life would be so much better. What is happening in Britain at the moment is horrifying and I am so pleased we are no longer living there, one day Islam will take over and then we are doomed 🥲🥲
This precast is so good. I couldn’t agree more. May Goa bless and protect him and make many more like him .
Excellent discussion - well done
As I get older it becomes more and more obvious to me how so much of our beliefs (whether religious, political or cultural) are based on emotion rather than evidence and reason.
Well, we all have our own particular BELIEFS, but ultimately, there exists objective truth, which is not subject to our misconceptions and misunderstandings.
One who has transcended mundane, relative truth, is said to be an ENLIGHTENED soul. 😇
while a welcome observation, what took you so long? My 'teenage rebellion' was telling my RE teacher at Catholic school she was talking bollocks. One could say exactly the same regarding politicians who incite 'god' in their pronouncements -all equally disgusting.
@@MorningtonCrescent It didn't take me long with regard to religion and cultural beliefs. I think it necessary to say that religious/spiritual/metaphysical beliefs can be logical and reasoned (theologians from Eriugena to David Bentley Hart are evidence enough of that), but it seems to me that most people's religious beliefs are moved by emotion rather than philosophical rigour.
It took me longer to notice how much of our political inclinations are emotional and rationalised after the fact. It may be a result of naivety, or a lack of insight into my own inclincations and processes -- I'm not sure.
They are for most people- but some of us have learned to avoid that trap.
I might make emotional decisions over girls or what to have for lunch, but NOT important philosophical ideas.
Well, Slave, we all have our own particular BELIEFS, but ultimately, there exists objective truth, which is not subject to our misconceptions and misunderstandings.
One who has transcended mundane, relative truth, is said to be an ENLIGHTENED soul. 😇
Nothing worse than a regressive. The way the view the world is so 2 dimensional and boorish. It is a tedious conversation.
Everything is terrible because it is not like it use to be and we need to get back to the old ways when everything was so great.
Watever buddy.
Calvin Robinson is a thoroughly good man. He has the guts to say what he really believes. I think he would be a very good friend to have if one needed advice. This was a really interesting interview by an interviewer I like of a man of principles who is through and through a good person. We need people like this to speak up for the world we British have lost to the extremist left.
Sorry, but the death of Christianity has nothing to do with competition with other religions or ideologies. It is dying due to people not buying it anymore. And a priest saying no one can control us if we're Christian is off the charts ironic & ridiculous. Equally ridiculous is telling us we have to choose one evil over the other 🙄 We can be sovereign and freeminded and choose none of the options proffered by this world.
No one is autonomous. We are all the products of the synthesis of multiple influences which only increase the longer we live.
Who says Christianity is dying?
@@virginiaweir-hj1rt Facts say Religion is dying. There are less and less believers every decade. for who would logically believe.
@@willnestor6422 so weird: my comments keep disappearing. Perhaps the better word is diminishing since dying implies it will disappear, when it'll probably just keep morphing in order to keep peoples' minds trapped.
There are twice as many Catholics on earth now, as there were in 1970.
I just find his attitude so presumptuous & condescending. I certainly wasn't born with any god imprinted on my heart. It's just such an odd statement to me. Also, saying if you don't believe in Jesus you believe in anything is just flat out insulting. He's basically calling everyone gullible and stupid. Wild.
You are getting upset at someone expressing their belief. It's his religion, Christians believe that all men have been given enough to know God exists and unbelievers "suppress the truth in all unrighteousness." He's being asked about his faith and expressing it. Why does it bother you? It's not HIS attitude, it's Christianity. Religions all have beliefs, you'll end up very unhappy if it bothers you personally what adherents think of your unbelief.
And he's not calling you gullible, he's saying men seek meaning and have inbuilt instincts that lead them to seek meaning, hold up some things as "sacred," make idols etc. If you don't have belief in God you will still seek those things and find them in causes, or money, or hedonism.
Well these things are foolishness to those who are perishing
That attitude seems to be a part of the package. Not many Christians are able to leave it behind. And well, why would you if you think God backs you up?
If you believe there are more than one genders than you are dumb
First time listening to your channel. Fantastic interview with great questions that i would ask. Im definitely going to look into more on Calvin as i found him very engaging. I particularly enjoyed his explanations on topics. Im on a faith journey myself, and I've been looking for guidance on certain matters. Thank you. I will be tuning in again.
Never thought to see Fr. Robinson featured as a heretic! I really appreciate him. As a religious person, I like to watch Heretics to understand unbelievers better. It gives me ideas about how to speak to them, without coming on to strong about faith.
Interesting as always, you cant deny we have lost something with the decline of Christianity that was the cornerstone of our culture and laws, what seems to be replacing it is a rolling disaster. So many cultural norms under attack with disastrous consequences.
Without God, humanity will destroy itself eventually, if God does not intervene.
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@@deborahakey9308 Unfortunately I did!
"Disastrous conciseness" is an unintentionally awesome term.
@@Hambone3773 Oh my, note to self never trust autocorrect! Thanks and yes 🤣😂
This man seems to be rather naive in his views. Women don't need to have children to have a fulfilled life and men don't need to be the breadwinner to be successful or content. Everyone has the right to decide for themselves what they want to do in life.
The idea that “men are there to serve God and women are there to serve men” is not in the Bible. Calvin is way out of line in saying that.
He has disgusted me.
It’s actually Biblical command but funny part is you both attack Islam for same command.
@@keksi6844No it isn’t.
@@keksi6844 you don’t sound like you know anything about the Bible.
I don't think religion is the answer. In my opinion most of the problems in the world can be laid at the feet of religion. Science and reason is our best hope not mysticism and myth.
"For the Lord himself shall descend from Heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God. The dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we, which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord" (1 Thes. 4:16). The dead in Christ shall rise first. Then, in the twinkling of an eye, all of us together are caught up into the heavenlies to meet the Lord Jesus Christ.
I am an atheist. I don't believe in the existence of God. There is insufficient evidence or rational justification to support the belief in any gods or supernatural entities. I rely on reason, logic, and empirical evidence to form my worldview and do not find compelling evidence or arguments to support the existence of god.
Studies that cannot be replicated, conducted by people who have a monetary incentive, a scientific apparatus that inserts presumptions prior to studies, and confirmed by peers from a select elite careerist cartel. No issues with atheism, but wait a few years and much of what you believe will be “disproven” by the cohort of scientists with different employers. Much of what we believe, whatever the source, is variable and changes over time.
The compelling evidence is the perfection you find in Nature (it's impossible to be a random mistake). Also, the name of GOD (YHVH) is in our DNA.
Everyone has a god. For some people it’s evolution, some it’s nature, some it’s government
Check out J. Warner Wallace books. They might be interesting to you.
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I love Calvin, I always have, but there are so many points I've got to disagree with here.
I'm white British. I'm also a conservative atheist.
My family history is we were all from SE London. None of us were religious, we're just generations of working class londoners.
None of my family are "woke" and my 10 year old son would even describe himself as gender critical.
It's not so much that humans need to believe in something, it's more the fact we're tribal. We need to feel we belong to something.
The rise of the woke hasn't coincided with the death of religion, it's gone hand in hand with the death of patriotic love for where we live.
Britain has become a dirty word.
You're not allowed to say you love Britain or you're proud of being English. If you say that the likes of James O'Brian start calling you a knuckle dragging brexit supporting gammon who loves being a coloniser.
Now it's, take your flags down, say sorry for absolutely everything that's happened over the past 1000 years and pray that when you do an online DNA test you've got a bit of brown ethnicity in there somewhere.
It's hideous.
If you can't even be proud of your country then what are you left with? God can't fill that gap. But being part of a different club will
I can be proud of who I am without being proud of everything I have done.
Listen to the last one from Larry Alex Taunton, its about atheist conservatives.
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I've listened to him before, and the problem I find with Americans is that they see the world through an American lense.
Nothing he says relates to anything going on outside of the USA.....sorry.
The British form of Conservative is NOTHING like the Americans think it is.
We might speak the same language (just about), but that's as far as our similarities join
@@michaellonergan8012what you have is also part of who you are. Your actions and deeds shape you.
A truly wonderful conversation
Put this on just to pass the time and found it deeply interesting. Absolutely loved this conversation
I am a Catholic Christian.
Love your show. Great conversations and exploration of the lives, thoughts and personalities of people I likely would not ever meet..let alone come to know, understand and converse with.
Andrew, being Jewish is belonging to a people. You can choose to think and do whatever you like , freedom of choice for sure, but you can never stop being a Jew. It's there for life.
True. We were all there at Sinai.
To say we are all born knowing god is real is so arrogant. I can't take it
As soon as someone says God does this, God knows that, I switch off. We all live in a simulation I have been reliably told by boffin physicists.
Listen to what he said. People always talk about Karma, mother earth, the universe.. that's believing in some kind of divine being.
@@PinkWaveGo I don't
That human being evolved with a need for meaning, purpose, story, mythology and indeed religion, doesn't make any religion true.
Are you going to cry?
Europe is build on judeo-christian values...and as far as I can think: its absolutely fantastic! We need to be humbly proud of it!
Current Europe is built on enlightenment values, which went directly against Christianity. Fuck Christian values.
No such thing as JD, they are separate mindsets. As for values, slavery, misogyny, killing of groups you disagree with including wife and children. Nothing to be proud of a stupid story that you don’t seem to fully understand controlling your thinking.
so the Enlightenment and the scientific method is due to adherence of judeo-christian values, is it? News to me....
Here's one thing I never see discussed - Yes it is true that the last 1000 years of European history have been informed by Judaeo-Christian thought. That being said though, the simple fact of the matter is that Judaeo-Christianity was and is an imported, foreign Faith. It is not native to Europe. What I wonder is this: In what ways did the Pre-Christian beliefs of Europeans inform how they processed, interpreted, and ultimately accepted the Judaeo-Christian ethos? After all, nothing just 'happens'. There had to be something unique about how that particularly European strain of Paganism gradually morphed into Western Judaeo-Christianity as we understand it today. I don't think many people ever ask that question. Because Western Christianity is doubtless not the same as the original Middle Eastern Christianity. There is 'something' in it that is uniquely of the West, and uniquely of the soul of Europe and that is far, far older than merely the last 1000 years.
@@ciaranmeeks9431 One of those things is that they took pagan holidays and put Christian holidays on them, as well as including pagan traditions. Christmas and Easter for example, the concept of Christmas trees.
Really enjoy Andrew Gold's interviews, who let's people talk. Just brilliant minds, exploring Christianity, Islam, Jewish religions, in truthful dialog. Bringing current issues to people who, if they listen to the subject and what is actually happening will see the truth of what is happening in our world.
Great interview !!
34:51 very naive and only perceived from a male view. Women's voices were not heard through history and for the working classes, women would also go out to work.
I am a Christian woman and agree with him 100%
@@CrystalJ7 not everyone is fortunate to have an education in history, I realise.
@@wolfhugs2221 well, it's more a knowledge of my Bible! 🙂
@@CrystalJ7 I read it attending Sunday school as a kid. It basically regarded women as slaves to men rather than individuals in their own right. Reads like it was written by a naive man, which is perhaps why men like this one sound so uninformed.
@@wolfhugs2221 You clearly haven't read it! So which stories stick out to you in making your point?
From my memory, in AUSTRALIA AROUND, 1950'S/60'S WE HAD MASSIVE IMMIGRATION.... FROM CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES....ITALY, GREECE, if Any others I don't remember...the families who came here integrated into society's norms. They studied and spoke English. Elders who did not speak English were CARED FOR BY THE FAMILY TILL DEATH..... They brought their culture, imported and sold their food, opened restaurants and sold their food .. they INTEGRATED INTO THE AUSSIE NORM......I'm 69, I had good ethnic friends all my life, including native people's....We do have a large Muslim community, slightly radical but overall integrated.......But our government needs overhauling..... Blessings darlings from Granny Linda in OZ......
Why does our Government need "overhauling"?
Inane comment. 🇦🇺
34:40 he says people were happier before but it's impossible for him or really anybody to know how happy or fulfilled people were when you can die at 20 from a tooth infection.
It was just a overkill to end God and nationality at the same time. I believe nationality alone can be a unifier.
Absolutely. Like the Japanese.
approx 25mins...a "chance meeting?". In Hebrew there is a word "moed", which means God's appointed times....there are the 7 main festivals in Judaism which moed alludes to, then there is another of God's moedim..the Sabbat, then there are also those times which you've just experienced and to which Calvin alludes...these are God's appointed ( and annointed ) times. I am not Jewish but I've been studying Judo/Christianity over the past 18 months....reading and learning the Tanakh and the NT from Messianic Christians has been a blessing. For Andrew I would suggest having a look at Oneforisrael, it will answer a lot of your questions.
If you need to believe in an afterlife and a divine plan to be comfortable then religion is your only option; taken in small quantities the westernized version of Christianity is probably the least damaging. If you don't need to believe in an afterlife and are comfortable with uncertainty and self direction then religious belief should be avoided. What it takes to be a good person and live a satisfying and beneficial life is not a mystery.
The fact is that the online ATHEIST COMMUNITY just can't seem to shut up about how “GOOD” and saintly they are - yes? The online left wing THOUGHT POLICE are fooling no one apart from their brain washed comrades!!
Without lies Islam dies
Same for Christianity.
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Maybe give John Blanchards book a read? (If you havnt already?)
"Does God believe in Athiests"
Might change your mind? Radically changed my outlook :)
@@adrianrentz5515 Just googling it already makes me know the writer doesn't know what they are talking about. "Atheism is a belief system." No, atheism is the lack of a belief system. "No one can scientifically prove that god doesn't exist." Atheism doesn't necessarily mean the belief that there is no god, lacking the belief of a god is enough already. Atheists don't need to prove anything. Theists believe in a god, the burden of proof is on them, not the other way around. "Therefor atheism is a faith system." Faith is the belief in something without evidence, many atheists need evidence to believe something. "It also pinpoints the flaws in Darwinian evolutionism." LMAO evolutionism. Using anti-scientific rhetoric just makes it another level of stupid.
Also, even if god does exist, that doesn't prove Christianity right. It could also be that Islam is right. Or Judaism. Or any of the monotheistic religions. Or it could be that any of the existing religions have the whole thing wrong.
@@MGsubbie Look we are all cultural Christians. I dont know anybody who takes it seriously. You cant compare it with Islam. Islam is a clear and present danger.
@@adrianrentz5515 are you really that naive to think a book written by a religious person is going to change an Atheists mind when your book of "evidence" full of the "word of god" isn't enough! No atheists would change their mind because of a book of opinions by a theist, only a doubting theist looking for justification would fall for that
Excellent discussion between two intelligent and articulate men - thank you
Calvin: "i don't have to think about what's right or wrong. i don't have to think about what's good or bad." says it all
God bless Father Calvin 🙏
While I can’t disagree with him about Christianity-as-such (as I am not as familiar with it as him) his account of the birth of ‘woke’ is lazy and badly thought out. He seems to think Marxism and liberalism are the same thing, when the former existed (in its original form) as a critique of liberalism. Marxism is antithetical to liberalism (I’m not talking about the colloquial use of the term that’s gained currency in the US; I’m talking about property rights, individual rights and basic freedoms). The route from liberalism to ‘woke’, via Marx, Nietzsche, the Frankfurt School and some of the postmodern thinkers (barring Foucault, who was explicitly critical of Marx) is complicated and Robinson shows how little he knows about it.
Also, he is wrong to claim that the only options are ‘woke’ and Christianity. I am not Christian and do not consider the supposed ‘Christian values’ to be Christian at all, but rather social values that were incorporated into The Bible due to their utility; however, I am also opposed to ‘woke’ and the stultifying effect it has on social, academic and political discourse.
Robinson doesn’t come across very well in this interview (which is a pity, because Andrew Gold isn’t very good at pushing back and questioning his guests). I am quite sure he could outmanoeuvre me as far as theology is concerned, but as someone who has spent the last 25 years studying and teaching philosophy I can say with near-certainty that he could stand to learn a little more.
Andrew, this is the first time I've had to leave one of your programs because it made me so damn mad! I've never heard so much arrogance, judgementalism, political religion in one show before. What religion is God a member of? Pfffffffttttttttt!
I concur
Christianity is deeply offensive, isn't it? And I say that as a Christian. You asked what religion God is a member of? God is not a member of any religion, God is completely self sufficient and we cannot add anything to who he is and what He has done. I hope you one day you can put aside your anger and consider the God-man Jesus who stepped into history to deal with humanity and its problems and he did it with love, grace, humility, and truth.
@@ag7075 Never make the assumption that people like me don't believe in God, or Christ. Put aside my anger?! Maybe you need to find yours! Love, Grace, Humility and Truth? I'm not seeing any of that in our leaders, our church leaders...and most of our "christians". As for God belonging to a religion, any idiot knows that God has no religion or they ought to...but it's surprising how many people will try to assign one. I'll say it again. This program was arrogant judgementalism, pure religion, and religious politics...something God actually hates.