WRAITHS! FLASH! 🇰🇷 (T) vs LARVA! 🇰🇷 (Z) on Ringing Bloom - StarCraft - Brood War
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Man, your casts are just pure fun! Great Netflix alternative! Keep on rollin'!
I love them too. Commentary is fantastic and the replays are always great fun.
Larva just thrives on chaos
What a strong opener for Flash! Didn’t expect he to use wraiths at the beginning, then transfer into some battle Cruisers play. If he keep on using wraiths, that would be awesome. What a big turn back for Larva at the late game, just keep on dark swarm and plague. GG for both players!
Flash could have put the battle cruisers more far away from each other so they wouldn't be plagued in one hit or maybe he confused the amount of plague that larva had. I think the BCs were just as a distraction so that scourge wouldn't hit the drops, he should have built fewer of them. Larva also could have ensnared or parsited dropship at some points, like to stop drops, or to split/slow down the M&M.
Thanks for the casts. I appreciate the Broodwar classics and you're definitely bringing them back.
Dang, thanks for the superchat! And you're super welcome for the Broodwar! Always glad to see people who also love the best RTS ever :D
21:38 the BCs were meant to soak all the scourge so he could drop safely, I'd say they paid for themselves if you consider the damage he did with the drop. insane huge brain by flash
I just don't think sending 2-3 BCs without marine/vessel support is viable. The damage he did with the drops was not good enough to justify losing several BCs like that. Every single game I see with pro terrans using BCs seems to be done this way and like Falcon says it's a curse cause it almost never works. You may as well make ghosts against zerg if you are going to use BCs like this. The ghosts might have a better win ratio since a fast nuke can crush crazy zerg.
The damage was nowhere near enough to justify losing 3 BCs.
If anything, his usage of BCs throughout was highly anti brain.
I'm nowhere near the level of Flash but as a Terran player, what was thaaat! Make at least a half-hearted attempt to keep the BCs alive! A couple of SV for Defense Matrix would have soaked up the Scourge way better and of course a Valkyrie or two would've been nice. And idk about switching to mech like that. Didn't even roll anything out. Should've doubled down on Firebats with D-Matrix. They're always under utilized imo. Of course once again, I'm nowhere near an expert level 😅 Amazing cast as always Falcon! Thank you so much!
Yep it seems every pro terran uses BCs horribly wrong. Sure sometimes sending 2 unsupported BCs to a distant zerg expansion can pay off while you are hitting their main etc. but overall it's just begging to die to scourge. I think his wraith/dropship all in was a sweet move, but later on when he sent the BCs alone to die to mass scourge it doomed him. Do pro players have some kind of phobia with getting a critical mass of BCs vs zerg? Like you say D matrix is huge to absorb an extra 2 scourge hits and mixing in 2 valks can splatter big scourge groups. But I say skip the valks and just get 6-8 BCs with yamato. Once you have that critical mass you can kill several hatches or hit the main and wipe out all the good tech structures. Dark swarm may protect drones but it can't save buildings!
@@Ziegfried82 Yeah and that's another thing I don't get! If he was sending the first 3 BCs to their death, that's one thing. But if he was making more, why not have Yamato ready to go?? He could have blasted that expansion to pieces and the dropships slipping by would've been able to take the corner base 😭
Flash was active in SC competitively from 2007 to 2015. Came back in 2016 and played until atleat 2019 before military service? That is 12 years, if he played atleast 10 games everyday in that time period it would be just under 44,000 games. So I'd say much more than 18,000 games played :p
he was active until mid 2021.
Very fun game and great casting !
I was wondering if using Yamato against Ultras would have been a good play for Flash. He invested so much into BCs already, may as well research the spell.
The Overmind was a great "concept" that should've never disapeared from starcraft. A being which has the "purity of essence", against the "purity of form" of the Protoss and can manifest itself physically in any planet it wants. A pure will, massive intelligence nonetheless enslaved by the Xel'Naga. Just a great conception from the original games.
I agree, a far more interesting antagonist than stupid Kerrigan.
@@user-iu1ru1qz7u Kerrigan was great in the original games. The Overmind saw in her the possibility of freeing the swarm through human free will. SC2's plot was too centered in her personal traits though. The Zerg became something like a girl's whimp.
@_Arthur_ she was only "OK" in vanilla SC. She was powerful, yet stupid and arrogant. It was a character with flaws. Clearly created to be a thug, not a leader.
Enter BW, plot armor begins. She's now invincible and capable of outsmarting beings that are several hundred years older than her.
It doesn't really make sense that the overmind would want free will. It negates his existence. The whole sc2 plot that turns the zerg from a creepy amoral antagonist into something you should feel bad for is pretty garbage.
Dude thanks a lot for your casts ! This one was incredible
Did anyone see how a radioactive Ultralisk just ran over a firebat in time 24:50?The Ultralisk didn't hit him, the Ultralisk just passed him and he got burned by the radiation. hahaha. It was crazy.
I always wonder if Flash is making a mockery of Larva by sending a Battlecruisers without a valkyries to back them. Battlecruiser without reinforcement is an easy target.
It was another GG. Thanks for the replays.
And he paid the ultimate price for it by taking a L
BCs in big numbers can kill scourge before they hit them, and they require a bit less micro than vessels. BCs in small numbers though could force the zerg to micro against them though.
To answer 5:25 No stats but let’s say he took playing starcraft like a full time job, since he’s a a goat he can afford to take long breaks and lunch break so… let’s say he has 6.5 hours of game play. Let’s say on average 30 minute game and 5 day weeks then ( 13 games x 5 days x 52 weeks x 0.68 coefficient of error “which includes vacations, longer games, not full 6.5 hour grinds” x 10 years) we get 22,984 games, call it 20000 games… so yeah he probably played that many
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I hope you will consider casting the replay I just sent you. It’s a crazy 2v2v2v2 on BGH. Lots of Zerg and Protoss spell casting in the game.
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Will do!
How could I missed that game! Brilliant reverse strategy, amazing.
I didn't plan on drinking and crying myself to sleep tonight but here we are
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And another brilliant cast by Falcon Paladin
Absolutely insane game. Gotta admit when i didn't see the EPIC tag and Larva started losing his bases - i was pretty sure the game for him was over. This game absolutely deserves the EPIC tag :)
Wow. Another GREAT comeback from Larva against Flash. Makes my Zerg heart happy lol. Larva and HamburgerSasu are currently my favorite Zerg players. Not sure if Sasu plays low money maps but his zerg on fastest map is really exciting to watch.
shout out from japan
7:16 I love how he has simulated a crashing aircraft trajectory.
So if I remember correctly you can actually use those neutral overmind cocoons or what ever they are to plant down creep colonies to sunken rush your opponent on this map which may be why Larva went for early pool build.
To answer your question about the number of games Flash played during his career. I don’t have stats but we can make a conservative estimate that he would play 20 games a day (8-10 hours), 250 days a year. That’s 5000 games a year. So at least 50,000 games over 10 years…
Just into beginning of video as it starts but falcon always reminds me....
Thnx RJB!!!!
Now I have been saving this for hours thank you sir ! edit* i had played more than 12k games whem i switched feom east to west..
By making bc's Flash is forcing Larva to spend gas to kill them, which is gas that will not be spent on lurkers, defilers and ultralisks. Its okay if he looses his bc's this way cause terran infantry does not need much gas.
True. His vessel production suffered as a result as well though.
@@ZeBron_Games vessels need to me microed though, to find which vessels have mana etc...
Good stuff , always love a good Zerg comeback
oh no the almighty Flash loses this one and now has a record of 63 wins and 26 losses on the channel
Amazing commentary mate,
Love from Australia 🇦🇺
Thanks, mate! :)
Фантастическая игра!!! Спасибо!!
the curse of the Battle Loosers prevails!
Im new to the profesional SC world but why byflash didn't upgrade yamato gun for the Bc's?
FP, if you were to add all of your casts.. how many hours have you casted?
I've published about 5,000 videos, around 30 minutes on average each, except for the Sunday streams, which run from 3-6 hours, and have been happening weekly since 2019. I'd estimate around 3,300 hours of casting in my career.
Good one! 👍
18000 well under I think. Assume each game is 15 mins and plays for 6 hours a day for 260 days a year. That’s 6240 a year so even with mis assumptions think it’s much higher
15 minute is incredibly fast, the average should be much longer in my opinion
Potentially but flash will play a lot of cheese games which are over after 5 minutes. 15 mins average still probably a bit short though in fairness
The resident Aussie viewer back at it viewing pleasure again 👌
Thx again for another great cast. I don't get it that flash loses the match after being that way up....but those swings in the matches make it more exciting. Greetings
No problem! :)
I thought Flash was so far ahead the Battlecruisers would just pile up and be unstoppable....
The curse of the BC continues...
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Just thinking here .... 10 games a day x 365 days a year = 3.5K games a year ... so ... it would only be just over 5 years to hit 18K ... now ... i know ... U don't play every single day ... but ... i'm talking 10 games a day and we all know he played A LOT MORE a day and for longer than 5 years ... so ... math!
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Thanks for cast btw, and thanks to the man from down under for that replay ;)
Btw did Starcraft 2 casts go to a separate channel again?
Yep! Check it out! youtube.com/@falconpaladinsc2
18000 games at an average of 20 minutes a game is 6000 hours. Which would equate to about 3 years of a full time job. So probably over. I'll take the over.
most pro games are around 10 minutes long.
I play brood war since 2003 , not so much now, but used to play a fair ammount and even 20-30 games a day sometimes back i the days. I estimate throughout the years i played about 100k. games . If you consider a progarmer it would have to be much more. Some pro teams praticed about 10 h a day for 3 year straight every day. Thats only considering official practice. And guess what they did after that - yes play more starcraft. I dont think you can find official numbers but i think when sc was big in korea , the pros played 50- 60 games a day.
I don’t understand why they never attack with battle cruisers with other units.
@FalconPaladin That's my friend is Larva's Zerg with 4 gas rolling! You called it too early :=)
It has got to be well over 18k. Over a 10 year span, 18K averages out to be 5 games per day, 365 days a year. Assuming Flash take weekends and holidays off and plays only 240 days per year, it is still only 7.5 games per day. At 30 mins per, that's only 4 hours of play time a day.
No way Flash only plays 4 hours per day. The total games over the 10 year period is probably north of 40k.
O yea...The power of the Battle Cruisers was with the Zerg😖
this was fucking epic comeback!!!!!
it wasn't Larva play style he was like Jaedong
Larva was patient. BCs take a lot of resources. Tanks would have been better option. It was GG when Larva took out expansion base and all SVs were taken down. The attack on Larva's main was a desperation move and Flash knew it was over when he realized he wouldnt be able to take it out.
25:38 ouch.
I think BC is meta because if there is to much Marina/Medic/Firebat plague will do much more damage..
BC are for harassing undefended bases that Zerg has in late game. Battlecruisers can be very good at this but Flash didn’t control them well so they didn’t pay for themselves.
Dang this is why you do not make battlecruisers against Zerg!
Seems like those cocoon things are OP for zerg
silly of Flash to go Battlecruisers.
Destroyed his economy.
The real Flash would have gotten tanks at some point. This is an imposter.
Yep. Curse of the BCs is very real.
Larva is insane.
And thats why battlecruisers usually are bad idea.
18000 games is probably about 6000 or so hours of play time. he's def done that
25:55 Thought process of ALL present day broodwar pros: OK I'll just let plague take 500hp off my bc's and repair them or suicide them
20 years ago: OK I'll just have a medic spam Restore on them, I mean I got all these medics with my SK terran build anyway so why not spend 100 mineral and gas getting it
Even if you repair they will get scourged though.
Average game would be let's say 15mins, but let's make it 20mins to average out those really late games. Pros usually play anywhere from 8-12 hours a day, especially during the "team house" era. Let's say they play like you work so 5 days a week. that roughly comes out to 270 days a year. Flash debuted in 2007, so he's been playing for 16 years.
3 games an hour, so that's minimum 24, max 36 a day times 270 days a year for 16 years let's say for argument's sake.
So in theory the bare minimum Flash has played 103,680 games using that formula. So take with a hefty grain of salt. xD
Is it just me, or should they nerf the duration of dark swarm? Or radius ? It's just ridiculous how strong that is.
Dark swarm is good in bases, but bad in open areas. Flash could have run away from the swarm maybe, but he was all over the place.
dude that's the second match in a week flash tosses bcs like a paper ball lol, wer is the gorund support??
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Great game mate! I also turned it off (zerg fan) lol. 👍
You turned it off before the end? Why?
@@FalconPaladin Whoops! *Almost not also lol.
@@vhrte49 😁
@@FalconPaladin Who makes a comeback against Flash honestly? 🤯
100% more than 18k games played… I had 8000/2000 /stats back in like 2006.
18,000/365 is 49. So he would have to play 49 games every single day for a year to reach 18,000 games. I'd say it's realistic that over the course of his entire career he's played somewhere in the ballpark of 18,000 games. Probably considerably more actually seeing as his career has spanned 10 years. That also means he's probably played more than 10,000 hours of SC games which is how many hours it takes on average to totally master a skill. Yes I know this is a 6 month old video lol.
Even keep making Raves instead of BCs would be better - they speedy and can harras different mineral lines on different bases without dying to scourges and also not so much resourses are just wasted as with BCs
You mean Valks & Wraiths? I think Flash could have made Vultures now that I think about it...
Yo!
FOR THE SWARM gg
Battlecruiser curse again lol
It's weird that when they go BC, we almost see no valks or anything to support the BC. And they rarely pay itself and do enough damage.
Still, they cost so much it will mean all terrans that go BC can't build enough tanks, vultures, which are much more op to ultras and lings.
I think these BC games are like players testing new strategies from time to time and you see some of them don't work, like in the case of the BC.
25:55 Or maybe you dont get pla- -BC's get plagued 😂
18000 games is like 5 games/day for 10yrs on average base on math alone, i feel like pros players would do more game than 5/day
YYYEEAAAAH LARVAAAAA!
Damn larva know how to win unwinnable game
I think this was more of Flash throwing the match with some typical terrible 2-3 BC at a time and send em unsupported nonsense.
So those cocoons are bugged and Zerg can use them like Spore Colony?
BCs would have been more effective if he actually used Yamato.
Spoiler..
The BC curse is REAL. I was so expecting Flash to win.
Bc is makes zerg spent gas on scourge 😅😅
Flash want to make it easier for Larva by wasting all his cash on Battlecruisers? Don't even mention that those Battlecruisers come one by one, or at most a couple? They just lined up to their death...
Pros use battlecruisers so bad!
Always sending them alone and achieve nothing, instead of supporting the army!
15min games would be 25 hours , he would of need to of been clappin some noobs to get some games under 15 min or straight rush wins for that 100 in a day mark
8 hours a day playing 3 games an hour average. 24 games a day for 365 days for 10 years is 87,600 games… reasonable guess?
No days off? Seven days a week? Nah.
@@FalconPaladin well half it then lol. 40k as a rough estimate.. so really your 18k probably isn’t super off
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Hey, you're very welcome! Thanks for being such a loyal viewer, and for the super chat! :)
no jokes. Flash can building ghost academy with nuke.
Ensare also slows attack speed
If 20 games of 30 minutes are 600 minutes/10= 6 hours, do you think he could play 100 games per day?
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