Well, since I bought a PSVR. I might as well get this.... Wish we could get more rail shooters, as Until Dawn is amazing and I could play that forever.
I think this game would've benefited better if it were just developed as a regular game for consoles and PC. The VR gimmick really holds the game's visuals back, and I know that because the CryEngine is a _phenomenal_ piece of developmental technology.
***** Looks like you're in the minority there. You're acting like I said the game looks like ass, and I didn't. I said it would look BETTER if it were just a simple traditionally-developed game. And for the record, I _did_ get a good look at it in person, and it's still meh compared to what the CryEngine 5 can really do. Calm yourself.
So I was excited for this game but turns out it's not that great especially when it comes to the controls and visuals. My eyes were straining like hell trying to make out the backgrounds I went and got the pro it kinda helped with the visuals but overall this isn't that good
I don't get why these VR games don't do the rest of the arms. It may block ur vision, sure. But like, you're still seeing floating hands. Maybe since this is a scifi-themed game, why not render the rest of the arm, but have an X-ray effect that can look through it somewhat. It's like one of your visor functions or something.
Paul Staker Arms in VR games can cause motion sickness. At the point shown in this video where the protagonist is climbing bars is a good example. If the arms were shown dangling above you, holding onto the bars when in real life your arms aren't doing that, can confuse your brain and cause even more motion sickness than this game supposedly already has.
ihatevoyager I see your point but in most cases it can cause nausea or confuse your brain. Take adrift for example. Whenever reaching for an item an arm would reach out to seize it. Many people found this uncomfortable as it was not their hand they saw on screen. Most people can find it uncomfortable and certain developers have not mastered it yet. I guess loading human did. But in games like Robinson where you have to climb bars or ladders. Imagine your arms reaching up when in real life they're not? In certain instances like that there's a problem. Either way, arm or hand, ridiculous or not, it doesn't break immersion. An arm would be more likely to break immersion than a floating hand.
This is €60 in Ireland... for 3-4 hours gameplay? This by far a never touch for me. Motion sickness and repetitive gameplay? Never trust pre rendered trailers I guess.
This is why I haven't even considered VR. I know this about the experience, but at the same time it's still is and always will be about the games. It seems most of the games that have been released for it are short and just show off what the VR is about. But until it starts releasing some big name titles it's not gonna get the attention of many gamers.
I agree with that. But to me this is what's exciting about VR as a platform. Right now it's in its infancy, and people should be understanding of this and take that into consideration whenever forming any kind of opinion on it. It' annoys me when you just get people blurting out shite like "Oh, its just a gimmick" and "VR has failed". Why is that, exactly? It's my experience that people coming out with bullshit like that just haven't experienced it yet, and that's the thing: it's an experience. You have to see it for yourself to get what its all about. It's no gimmick, and right now developers are figuring out what works and what doesn't. It has so much potential, more so than your standard console and TV, which if you haven't noticed lately, is becoming a bit of a bore with the countless remakes and remasters. There's fuck all new. Just higher def visuals and more microtransactions.
Of those that I have demod with only about 30% DONT state its a gimmick. It has a huge potential later. Current hardware is showing its weaknesses right now and folks notice it even without prior experience.
Another great review man!The climbing controls look like they would be awkward as hell. Also the lack of any reaction from dinosaurs running in the water looked really horrible and just bugged the hell out of me seeing it.
I just don't want VR to go same route as the Kinect. It's such a great idea. They just have to get it right. Hell, maybe they'll release a Steel Battalion that actually works.
Thanks for this great review! Tried this game for 5 minutes (luckily I didn't have to pay for it of for PS VR) and had a terrible case of motion sickness. Well, guess we'll have to wait some 20 years for a quality consumer direct computer/brain interface, 'cause all this smoke and mirrors stuff is not good enough for real virtual reality)
karak do you ever sleep man? review after review after review Jesus man. you are probably the fastest reviewer (with QOS) in the internet. angryjoe its far behind.
might get a VR near December, right now I have to save money for the last guardian, dishonored 2, final fantasy 15, watch dogs 2, (witch im getting the most expensive editions) and the collectors edition guides.
That RIGS game uses the dualshock. And there has been no significant claims of sickness. I wish they would use it more often, or switch back and forth. You walk with the dualshock, come up to an enemy, and pull out your sword (move controller.) It would take you leaving the move controller on your lap or around your wrist like a Wii controller, but I bet that'd take care of alot of the sickness.
Damn, this is one of the titles I was most excited for with PSVR. I'm also really excited for The Assembly. The controls in that seem like they may be less vomit-inducing. They have a teleport option and when you turn in increments it does a cut instead of a quick pan like Robinson does.
I really liked this game. the graphics were pretty spectacular. The first few goes I did feel a bit sick but after 30 mins I got used to the smooth setting and now it feels great. I'm happy with it.
After watching your review I'm even more sure that I'll still wait with buying VR, because the games that are currently available for it aren't worth getting the VR for it's asking price. Anyway thank you for sharing your opinion in this review and have an awesome week :)!
So you haven't tried it, yet you think that would break the immersion? I'll give you some advice: TRY IT. You can't get any sense of what the immersion is like until you do, and this is something that I'm constantly relaying to people who complain about these things without experiencing it first hand.
Angelo bladiebla Bad move controllers? Yes they don't have good tracking compared to vive but breaking you from the immersion? They only added to the immersion for me. And the tracking is decent. You just notice a slight shake in your hands from time to time and although that's weird it's by far from immersion breaking and can quite easily be fixed in a software update.
Foxy's Sketches Exactly right. It's not perfect, but the goal for any VR is presence and immersion, and the PSVR does that job in a manner that is comparable to anything else out there. The other complaint about resolution is also a strange one. Sure, it could be better. It can always be better regardless of whether you are playing on a 4k TV or a VR headset, the fact is, even on the likes of the Vive, the resolution isn't as pin sharp as we'd all like it, but that doesn't matter. It baffles me how anyone can say that the PSVR isn't amazing. As someone who grew up from the NES era, having incredible technology that actually puts you inside a game that looks as good as it does and makes you believe you are there, is like something from science fiction, only it isn't. It's what we've got today. Some people will never be happy no matter how good something is.
Larry Langer I one hundred percent agree. And for people who are solely console players this VR headset is revolutionary to them as it's a cheaper more accessible way to game in VR. And resolution isn't bad at all and again, if you are solely a console player you're not gonna notice the resolution or tracking. I really don't think people who haven't gone near VR have a valid opinion on whether it's bad or good. People constantly complain about lack of arms (which is on purpose to reduce motion sickness) and lack of 360 movement is enough to take you out of immersion and that is simply not true. It's amazing and it's so sad that you can't explain what it's like to people who haven't tried it.
Foxy's Sketches Yep. I've owned everything at one stage or another. From the old 8-bit systems, to my PC. What VR does for me now is something new, something refreshing, and something that I only imagined when I was a kid. It delivered, and more, and it's rare that a product does that. For me, this has the same potential leap that 3d polygon games had in the industry jumping from bitmap pixels. If VR isn't given the chance by people, we'll never see the next big evolution from the industry. Sooner or later, the standard controller and TV has to become obsolete. Time to embrace that. After experiencing PSVR for a extended period, going back to a standard game on a TV just felt redundant. Also, the complaints about hads being disembodied is a lack of knowledge and understanding from people who just don't understand how tracking has to work, and what it takes to properly emulate your movement 1-2-1 on joints on a mesh anything below the wrist. It would just look too strange and unnatural.
Are the controls like the "free mode" in Tomb Raider: Blood Ties VR, where you can explore Lara's Mansion? I have to admit, playing a vr game like a "regular" game with the two joysticks was a bit werid at the beginning, but after 10 mins or so, I was used to it. I don't understand why they don't use RIGS mechanism for suck slow paced games, where you simply turn in the direction you're looking at. I think that would alleviate the problem for many people .
Hey Karak love your videos and I've been watching for awhile now. You always talk about presence in VR, but I'd love to know your opinion on which VR game you've played that you consider had the best presence. I'll continue to support your stuff and thank you for being, possibly, the most honest reviewer on youtube.
i just cant get over the floating hands in VR, feeling like rayman. also, getting a No man's sky wibe from this title really strong, pioneer of the genre of the numbing inevitability
you bet but its not the monster that VR needs now. Nor is it current(As in on a PR wave because its new). We need a huge real game release that people can get behind
I don't own a VR headset anymore (sold my Oculus rift) but this was an awesome review. You're right we do need a zinger of a VR game to liven the scene
The only thing that realy bothers me are the controls. I was sitting ready with my move controllers and it doesn't even support it... Immersion would be so much better. Why not press a button to walk. Or use a teleport system. Just feels odd to control your right hand with your head.
got it yesterday (with dishonored 2 and SOA) the lack of move controller support shocked the hell out of me, also the game while it didn't make me sick, it is hard to stomach the turning, that is why they put the option to choose how u spin around....it is a nice game, and a good step forward.....played it for like an hour but stopped since i didn't feel very good......hope with time i get better, this is the second game that made me feel bad, not as bad as the scavenger game....
Playing this game standing up and even moving my feet as I moved forward worked wonders for the nausea issue (even though I probably looked like an idiot doing that). As for the game itself - Dude is right. This was a complete letdown especially after watching the phenomenal game trailer. It's excruciatingly boring and cumbersome. VR developers need to take example from the much more superior Batman Arkham VR game.
ACG you are awesome. As far as VR goes, I don't see this going mainstream. It may have the same if not lesser success than the kinect/PS move. Best to stick to VR on daydream.
VR in concept has existed since the 1960's -70's. It is possible to have awesome VR experiences but no studio will do so when the majority of masses do not adopt this model. Every game company has a vision to deliver a great game in traditional console format. However incorporating VR into the experience will mean building assets for VR from the ground up which is a big risk. I am not stating that we won't have a great VR game in the future but I will hold off the optimism until a great developer envisions such a game from the ground up.
Love your videos but I'm surprised you've never reviewed The Last of Us. I'd love to hear your choice of wording for the entertainment value personally. I'm sure you'd give it a pretty positive review, but I love your commentary flow and wording. :D
You should definitely give a try! Even without a review included when you get the chance. I'm a newer subscriber, but I'd love to hear your hilariously original idioms with that blend of intelligible commentary at the parts where it matters to put the weight of certain aspects of a game into light. Like I said though, you should definitely try it though if you have the time. Doing a review on something so popular so late might seem repetitive, but I'd love to see it. Thanks for the hours of entertainment. I've been binge watching your videos. :D
Unless they really sort it out, and quickly, I fear this gen of VR will die before I get my first HollaDeck in a few gens time! Great, entertaining review.
I have played "Here They Lie" on PSVR and had no motion sickness from walking around in that game, so I assume that I should be fine with this? That being said, the price point is way too steep for the length so I will definitely wait for a sale. It's a shame since I was actually, really looking forward to this game.
Sony them self needs to lead the way here and to develope those killer apps to increase the market for PSVR. No way a 3rd party developer studio will take the cost to make those triple A VR games at this point in time. Im sure Sony are working on it though and we will most likely see some high budget VR games within the next 6 months or so. Btw great review as allways!
I appreciate this really well done review. Constructive criticism: breathe a little more and slow the pace down just a titch. Other than that, I just subscribed :)
did you mention how the sony ps store jacked up the price 12 hrs before launch $20?! to $59 while stores are selling the disc for the original price of $39?
Very helpful. Was looking forward to this, now it's a miss. There really is no excuse for poor rendering and motion sickness. I tried Rigs ready to tear the headset off. But I loved it. It's fast. It's smooth. I appreciate movement in VR is tricky but it should be a case of 'works well' or 'not quite'. Not 'works well' or 'i think I'm going to puke for a week'.
I love my VR! The only game I cant play is racing in cars, that make me sick after 3-4 min.. only if I choose camera incar. Not outside camera angle. Rush of blood is my newest game and its alot of fun to be scared! Haha :)
VR motion sickness is one of the reasons I'm not super excited for VR like a lot of tech people :( I don't want to have to take nausea medicine to play a game (as it stands I won't play first person games on PC if the fov is too narrow). Gabe from Penny Arcade takes Dramamine to be able to play VR games for more than 15 minutes.
Some people can get used to it. Your brain has to learn disassociation but I've never had an issue though that weird feeling when moving with the right stick as I'm standing still, I got used to that after a few hours. I'm terrified of heights too but that went away pretty quick in VR at least, not so much the real world but guess it shows VR isn't going to help with phobias.
I wish I could have watched the video, but dear heck, my eyes wanted to run screaming for the hills. And its not just this one, but so many of the vr games do this, ah well. Still, thanks for this one.
Weird the trailers looked really good! the foliage were sharp and graphics aswell. You're review it kinda looks blurred and bland. Could have been that they ran it on a PS4 Pro 4K. are you planning in buying a Ps4 pro ACG? :D
I think vr is trying to hard with these big titles, just keep it simple with games like batman vr, and keep games £10 or £15 , it's all about the experience, Brookhaven is great, no sickness at all in these games, just hope the developers listen to us, and build games around this.
i completed the game and i agree with most of the review, exept for the motion sickness. I played with the smooth settings and had no problem at all. maybe its just me, in that case im glad i dont suffer sickness for these types of game. if you experience MS, Windland is going to test it to the limit, as even i got the vertigo when playing at hi momentum, free look mode.
Unfortunately I didn't saw this video one day earlier. I bought this game one day ago and played it today. The intro was great, where the little T-Rex popped out of the egg. But as soon I got in the Spaceship and moved a little bit, I got sick. And yeah, the "smooth" option or what it's called is terrible... I really hope not every VR game will give me that much motion sickness, because so far I like the VR experience from what I've seen in few other games that I downloaded.
Hey I was just wondering if you would be willing to do a review for the VR as a whole? Is it worth buying? And do all games look like you said and I quote "like they are running on N64 graphics."
Whenever there's movement perceived as bodily movement by the player and the body is not moving, it will cause this kind of sickness. They were ignoring a well known problem, for their own personal reasons. VR101.
I want Eagle flight! But thats not available yet either. I figured since a lot of people been waiting on these VR titles that they would be released at midnight. Nope.
Both. Remember these are the same games. There are not "better" textures on the disk for a PSpro. Just res and lighting and such which I already said was pretty good here originally. That part is on both
So this is essentially a snooze fest/repetitive experience simulator 2016 in PSVR mode. I think I'll pass on this one. However, the review itself was great as always. Thanks Karak!
Great vid, exactly on point.. If games are largely naff these days how is vr gonna make things better especially on struggling consoles, i simply have to go pc now, the PSmove controllers were a real bad choice. All i want is 1080p 60fps solid. And the pro cant guarantee that. Back to freflyVR 4 me, its 60bucks, has 25degrees more FOV, can stream wifi or wired any PC game in vr, plus it can use my 4k phone.
I have a rift and I tried a friend's PS VR thingy...and I have to say I get sick as all hell on the PS VR, but the rift I can have on for HOURS and not feel anything. I think it has to do with the fps to be honest.
Now seeig this, I'm glad i held off on buying this game. I think the worst thing imo is the unnatural lighting effects and the other thing that kind of ruined it for me was, I was kind of expecting more alien looking dinosaurs, but they're just normal looking dinosaurs. Of course I'm sure it looks a hundred times better in VR and your mind will probably just except how it looks while you're playing it. Also, this is a $40 game? Where? I've only ever seen this for $60
I ain't paying £50 for a 'VR' game that doesn't even support the move controllers?! are the developers that lazy to spend some extra time to add Move support? or does moving your hand with the VR headset make it feel more realistic? (like a deformed guy with a hand stuck to his head).. Thank god Brookhaven was released around the same time for only £15 and has great move controls.. Was really looking forwards to this game but thanks for the review I think this is one of those hyped games
Quick question man, how do you get to play these games early for reviews? Not implying any impropriety on your part, just wondering. I didn't know they gave certain TH-camrs streamers early access to some titles. Do you have to apply to review these games or something? Merely curious how the process works.
I know you weren't asking me, but I write for some relatively small sites and we get lots of review copies -- unsolicited and ones we ask for. ACG is pretty big, so I wouldn't be surprised if most companies reach out to him with review codes. There are many resources for reviewers and even more email lists to join, so there's a number of ways to get codes for reviewing games... if you have a decent TH-cam following or write for a credible site.
A large number of my games are from retail sources(not publishers or devs) otherwise I contact them or they contact me, or I buy them when they are live
I wonder if this game takes place in the same place as Uncharted 4, I mean it looks like the same guy came through ahead of you and was nice enough to paint all the rocks you can climb on. He just used orange paint this time instead of white...
Well for the cost of another system I would hope it was:) at least in a small way. But sadly that won't fix the textures, poor gameplay, or various other problems.
+ACG for sure, I was mainly referring to the first bit of your review. I wouldn't put it past them to have big improvements with the new GPU, as this game has been touted as a PS4 Pro title for some time
this guy is to smart for ign or gamespot
(Too)
Hey! You take that back!!!
But Giant Bomb? Sure.
Well, since I bought a PSVR. I might as well get this.... Wish we could get more rail shooters, as Until Dawn is amazing and I could play that forever.
that and stick to teleporting control like batman v.r it gets rid of all the motion sickness
Cheshire Try the brookhaven experiment, you gonna love it !!
David Segerson
So true. I never got sick with Batman VR and it was a ton of fun!
Yeah some rail shooters and wave shooters with popular intellectual properties.
I think this game would've benefited better if it were just developed as a regular game for consoles and PC. The VR gimmick really holds the game's visuals back, and I know that because the CryEngine is a _phenomenal_ piece of developmental technology.
so do I
***** Looks like you're in the minority there. You're acting like I said the game looks like ass, and I didn't. I said it would look BETTER if it were just a simple traditionally-developed game. And for the record, I _did_ get a good look at it in person, and it's still meh compared to what the CryEngine 5 can really do. Calm yourself.
So I was excited for this game but turns out it's not that great especially when it comes to the controls and visuals. My eyes were straining like hell trying to make out the backgrounds I went and got the pro it kinda helped with the visuals but overall this isn't that good
Great review - always good to find someone considered and intelligent talking games on TH-cam!
thanks sir
I don't get why these VR games don't do the rest of the arms.
It may block ur vision, sure.
But like, you're still seeing floating hands.
Maybe since this is a scifi-themed game, why not render the rest of the arm, but have an X-ray effect that can look through it somewhat. It's like one of your visor functions or something.
i know man, it's odd and makes the game less immersive
Paul Staker
Arms in VR games can cause motion sickness.
At the point shown in this video where the protagonist is climbing bars is a good example.
If the arms were shown dangling above you, holding onto the bars when in real life your arms aren't doing that, can confuse your brain and cause even more motion sickness than this game supposedly already has.
i played loading human with arms and it didn't make me sick. looked much more natural than a pair of floating hands.Foxy's Sketches
ihatevoyager
I see your point but in most cases it can cause nausea or confuse your brain.
Take adrift for example. Whenever reaching for an item an arm would reach out to seize it. Many people found this uncomfortable as it was not their hand they saw on screen. Most people can find it uncomfortable and certain developers have not mastered it yet.
I guess loading human did. But in games like Robinson where you have to climb bars or ladders. Imagine your arms reaching up when in real life they're not? In certain instances like that there's a problem.
Either way, arm or hand, ridiculous or not, it doesn't break immersion. An arm would be more likely to break immersion than a floating hand.
Paul Staker until dawn rush of blood has arms that work very well.
Wow the contrast between the in game graphics vs the concept trailer. Night and day.
ya a huge downgrade
ACG i blame ubisoft
This is €60 in Ireland... for 3-4 hours gameplay?
This by far a never touch for me. Motion sickness and repetitive gameplay? Never trust pre rendered trailers I guess.
This is why I haven't even considered VR. I know this about the experience, but at the same time it's still is and always will be about the games. It seems most of the games that have been released for it are short and just show off what the VR is about. But until it starts releasing some big name titles it's not gonna get the attention of many gamers.
agreed
I agree with that. But to me this is what's exciting about VR as a platform. Right now it's in its infancy, and people should be understanding of this and take that into consideration whenever forming any kind of opinion on it. It' annoys me when you just get people blurting out shite like "Oh, its just a gimmick" and "VR has failed". Why is that, exactly? It's my experience that people coming out with bullshit like that just haven't experienced it yet, and that's the thing: it's an experience. You have to see it for yourself to get what its all about. It's no gimmick, and right now developers are figuring out what works and what doesn't. It has so much potential, more so than your standard console and TV, which if you haven't noticed lately, is becoming a bit of a bore with the countless remakes and remasters. There's fuck all new. Just higher def visuals and more microtransactions.
Of those that I have demod with only about 30% DONT state its a gimmick. It has a huge potential later. Current hardware is showing its weaknesses right now and folks notice it even without prior experience.
Thanks for the review Karak. It's a shame this game didn't reach its full potential.
agreed
I feel like we've said that a lot on this generation of console.
Sam Marky Agreed. Theres been some good games but so many disappointments.
Holy moly! I was getting motion sick just watching the video!
ya its gnarly
Lol.
Pretty sure that's not it. The jumping and jitter in the view rotation is something I've never seen before even in other VR.
Another great review man!The climbing controls look like they would be awkward as hell. Also the lack of any reaction from dinosaurs running in the water looked really horrible and just bugged the hell out of me seeing it.
thanks and ya climbing is terrible sometimes
Holy shit Karak, nearly 200,000 subs! Best gaming channel out there, keep growing man!
lol i thought it was like 150,000 haha
I'm glad you are reviewing these many VR games, more and more I"m convinced it not worth it at the moment.
ya
I can't agree more. Unless you want to be in some kind of cockpit like Elite I really don't see it taking off.
ya its an odd issue right now
I just don't want VR to go same route as the Kinect. It's such a great idea. They just have to get it right. Hell, maybe they'll release a Steel Battalion that actually works.
was really looking forward to this game. thanks for the heads up :)
Thanks for this great review!
Tried this game for 5 minutes (luckily I didn't have to pay for it of for PS VR) and had a terrible case of motion sickness.
Well, guess we'll have to wait some 20 years for a quality consumer direct computer/brain interface, 'cause all this smoke and mirrors stuff is not good enough for real virtual reality)
karak do you ever sleep man? review after review after review Jesus man.
you are probably the fastest reviewer (with QOS) in the internet.
angryjoe its far behind.
sure. This is my job though
Hence that epic beard. I think he hides a secret ultra fast cpu below that beanie, using it for fast reviewing and video rendering.
Keep doin' what you're doing bloke, this is one of the first channels I've subbed to after watching just one vid..
might get a VR near December, right now I have to save money for the last guardian, dishonored 2, final fantasy 15, watch dogs 2, (witch im getting the most expensive editions) and the collectors edition guides.
Dis 2 is out soon!
I had no idea this was coming out yet, the trailer looked immensely better than this.
Taylor Jones never trust pre rendered trailers.....
yah and i swear you hand arms in the trailer.
That RIGS game uses the dualshock. And there has been no significant claims of sickness. I wish they would use it more often, or switch back and forth. You walk with the dualshock, come up to an enemy, and pull out your sword (move controller.) It would take you leaving the move controller on your lap or around your wrist like a Wii controller, but I bet that'd take care of alot of the sickness.
ya agreed man
Damn, this is one of the titles I was most excited for with PSVR. I'm also really excited for The Assembly. The controls in that seem like they may be less vomit-inducing. They have a teleport option and when you turn in increments it does a cut instead of a quick pan like Robinson does.
ya sort of sucks
I really liked this game. the graphics were pretty spectacular. The first few goes I did feel a bit sick but after 30 mins I got used to the smooth setting and now it feels great. I'm happy with it.
I've never heard pace of gameplay described as "overdosing on marijuana suppositories" speed. Great review.
lol its terrible
After watching your review I'm even more sure that I'll still wait with buying VR, because the games that are currently available for it aren't worth getting the VR for it's asking price. Anyway thank you for sharing your opinion in this review and have an awesome week :)!
thanks sir
wtf thank you for saving my cash
youbet
Thanks for the video, I was away to buy but after you said it's only 3.5 -4 hours long I'm not paying £45
I haven't tried PSVR yet but it just seems the floating hands in games would break the immersion for me, which is what VR is all about.
So you haven't tried it, yet you think that would break the immersion?
I'll give you some advice: TRY IT. You can't get any sense of what the immersion is like until you do, and this is something that I'm constantly relaying to people who complain about these things without experiencing it first hand.
Angelo bladiebla
Bad move controllers? Yes they don't have good tracking compared to vive but breaking you from the immersion?
They only added to the immersion for me. And the tracking is decent. You just notice a slight shake in your hands from time to time and although that's weird it's by far from immersion breaking and can quite easily be fixed in a software update.
Foxy's Sketches Exactly right. It's not perfect, but the goal for any VR is presence and immersion, and the PSVR does that job in a manner that is comparable to anything else out there. The other complaint about resolution is also a strange one. Sure, it could be better. It can always be better regardless of whether you are playing on a 4k TV or a VR headset, the fact is, even on the likes of the Vive, the resolution isn't as pin sharp as we'd all like it, but that doesn't matter. It baffles me how anyone can say that the PSVR isn't amazing. As someone who grew up from the NES era, having incredible technology that actually puts you inside a game that looks as good as it does and makes you believe you are there, is like something from science fiction, only it isn't. It's what we've got today. Some people will never be happy no matter how good something is.
Larry Langer
I one hundred percent agree. And for people who are solely console players this VR headset is revolutionary to them as it's a cheaper more accessible way to game in VR. And resolution isn't bad at all and again, if you are solely a console player you're not gonna notice the resolution or tracking.
I really don't think people who haven't gone near VR have a valid opinion on whether it's bad or good.
People constantly complain about lack of arms (which is on purpose to reduce motion sickness) and lack of 360 movement is enough to take you out of immersion and that is simply not true. It's amazing and it's so sad that you can't explain what it's like to people who haven't tried it.
Foxy's Sketches Yep. I've owned everything at one stage or another. From the old 8-bit systems, to my PC. What VR does for me now is something new, something refreshing, and something that I only imagined when I was a kid. It delivered, and more, and it's rare that a product does that. For me, this has the same potential leap that 3d polygon games had in the industry jumping from bitmap pixels. If VR isn't given the chance by people, we'll never see the next big evolution from the industry. Sooner or later, the standard controller and TV has to become obsolete. Time to embrace that. After experiencing PSVR for a extended period, going back to a standard game on a TV just felt redundant. Also, the complaints about hads being disembodied is a lack of knowledge and understanding from people who just don't understand how tracking has to work, and what it takes to properly emulate your movement 1-2-1 on joints on a mesh anything below the wrist. It would just look too strange and unnatural.
Are the controls like the "free mode" in Tomb Raider: Blood Ties VR, where you can explore Lara's Mansion? I have to admit, playing a vr game like a "regular" game with the two joysticks was a bit werid at the beginning, but after 10 mins or so, I was used to it. I don't understand why they don't use RIGS mechanism for suck slow paced games, where you simply turn in the direction you're looking at. I think that would alleviate the problem for many people .
Nice review. How about covering Eve Valkyrie? I just got it and am curious to hear your thoughts.
Hey Karak love your videos and I've been watching for awhile now. You always talk about presence in VR, but I'd love to know your opinion on which VR game you've played that you consider had the best presence. I'll continue to support your stuff and thank you for being, possibly, the most honest reviewer on youtube.
thanks sir and maybe I will talk about that in the future
ACG Awesome. I look forward to it
They should make a Myst style vr game. It would use the different views to help deal with movement and avoid getting sick.
i just cant get over the floating hands in VR, feeling like rayman.
also, getting a No man's sky wibe from this title really strong, pioneer of the genre of the numbing inevitability
ya sort of goofy
ACG indeed. hope you are having a great start o the week bud
thanks IO am
your introduction is something unique, especially " uh maybe subscribe"
lol thanks I think
This game is back ordered at Bestbuy online and not available physically within 250 miles of me. So weird.
I absolutely love your analogies of which, most I've never heard anything like it before
thanks landon
Have you tried Elite Dangerous in VR? It is an amazing experience. Played it on my RIFT and think it's a must own VR title.
you bet but its not the monster that VR needs now. Nor is it current(As in on a PR wave because its new). We need a huge real game release that people can get behind
Thank you soooo much for saving me 60 bucks. I fucking love this guy. Best best best. ACG!!
I don't own a VR headset anymore (sold my Oculus rift) but this was an awesome review. You're right we do need a zinger of a VR game to liven the scene
thanks
The only thing that realy bothers me are the controls. I was sitting ready with my move controllers and it doesn't even support it... Immersion would be so much better. Why not press a button to walk. Or use a teleport system. Just feels odd to control your right hand with your head.
got it yesterday (with dishonored 2 and SOA) the lack of move controller support shocked the hell out of me, also the game while it didn't make me sick, it is hard to stomach the turning, that is why they put the option to choose how u spin around....it is a nice game, and a good step forward.....played it for like an hour but stopped since i didn't feel very good......hope with time i get better, this is the second game that made me feel bad, not as bad as the scavenger game....
ya so odd
ACG heard a patch might come to address the issue...
Can we just give props to the review? Really well written.
thanks james
Playing this game standing up and even moving my feet as I moved forward worked wonders for the nausea issue (even though I probably looked like an idiot doing that).
As for the game itself - Dude is right. This was a complete letdown especially after watching the phenomenal game trailer. It's excruciatingly boring and cumbersome.
VR developers need to take example from the much more superior Batman Arkham VR game.
im so bummed, got the game for 30 bucks but i;m returning it :(
the trailer shows you in the escape pod crashing to the planet. it does not happen in the game.
ACG you are awesome. As far as VR goes, I don't see this going mainstream. It may have the same if not lesser success than the kinect/PS move. Best to stick to VR on daydream.
me either
ACG that would be incredibly sad since VR is the coolest gaming concept to have yet been made
Concept sure,. but now this stuff. 2 different things sadly
VR in concept has existed since the 1960's -70's. It is possible to have awesome VR experiences but no studio will do so when the majority of masses do not adopt this model. Every game company has a vision to deliver a great game in traditional console format. However incorporating VR into the experience will mean building assets for VR from the ground up which is a big risk. I am not stating that we won't have a great VR game in the future but I will hold off the optimism until a great developer envisions such a game from the ground up.
Love your videos but I'm surprised you've never reviewed The Last of Us. I'd love to hear your choice of wording for the entertainment value personally. I'm sure you'd give it a pretty positive review, but I love your commentary flow and wording. :D
I dont have it
Kyoot Been gaming since '88 and the Lou is amongst the greatest. I would love ACG opinion.
You should definitely give a try! Even without a review included when you get the chance.
I'm a newer subscriber, but I'd love to hear your hilariously original idioms with that blend of intelligible commentary at the parts where it matters to put the weight of certain aspects of a game into light.
Like I said though, you should definitely try it though if you have the time. Doing a review on something so popular so late might seem repetitive, but I'd love to see it. Thanks for the hours of entertainment. I've been binge watching your videos. :D
no time sadly
Any news on PSVR modes for Dirt Rally, Project Cars and Assetto Corsa? They're all fantastic in VR.
Unless they really sort it out, and quickly, I fear this gen of VR will die before I get my first HollaDeck in a few gens time! Great, entertaining review.
agreed
wow... i'm so glad i watched this. gonna wait for a sale..... can't wait for your review on resident evil vr
I have played "Here They Lie" on PSVR and had no motion sickness from walking around in that game, so I assume that I should be fine with this? That being said, the price point is way too steep for the length so I will definitely wait for a sale. It's a shame since I was actually, really looking forward to this game.
ya just sort of overall boring
will definitely pick this up when it's $30 and gets move controller support!
I liked the game but for some reason it gave me bad motion sickness. Don't quite know why because i don't usually get it
Sony them self needs to lead the way here and to develope those killer apps to increase the market for PSVR. No way a 3rd party developer studio will take the cost to make those triple A VR games at this point in time. Im sure Sony are working on it though and we will most likely see some high budget VR games within the next 6 months or so.
Btw great review as allways!
agreed. Sad we have the hardware and very little software even from the supposed game foks just too little too late
why don't they let people themselves choose moving options? I played RE7 demo without VR "assists" and didn't experience any nausea.
I appreciate this really well done review. Constructive criticism: breathe a little more and slow the pace down just a titch. Other than that, I just subscribed :)
did you mention how the sony ps store jacked up the price 12 hrs before launch $20?! to $59 while stores are selling the disc for the original price of $39?
justjohnny05 This was Crytek their intention price for this game was supposed to be $60 they mention it in an interview.
yet ALL the disc based versions in all stores are 39.99 amazon sold it for 31.99
justjohnny05 powerupgaming.co.uk/2016/10/26/robinson-the-journey-wont-include-move-support-at-launch-nature-of-ps4-pro-enhancements-revealed/
I know I was surprised it doesn't use move
I'll give VR a year or two for things to smooth out a little, as of now there isn't any real content to justify the price
Very helpful. Was looking forward to this, now it's a miss. There really is no excuse for poor rendering and motion sickness. I tried Rigs ready to tear the headset off. But I loved it. It's fast. It's smooth. I appreciate movement in VR is tricky but it should be a case of 'works well' or 'not quite'. Not 'works well' or 'i think I'm going to puke for a week'.
thank you acg for the good review.
you bet
I love my VR! The only game I cant play is racing in cars, that make me sick after 3-4 min.. only if I choose camera incar. Not outside camera angle. Rush of blood is my newest game and its alot of fun to be scared! Haha :)
As always, f#### great review! Best on the net, more entertaining that most of the games reviewed
You just saved me $40 bucks, thanks again for the honest reviews.
you bet brother
Haven't even listened to the video yet... but thank you sooo much for reviewing this game :D!
you bet
I was planning on getting PS VR for Christmas, would you recommend it or should I get the PlayStation 4 pro?
I guess the Pro though that isn't even a given right now
VR motion sickness is one of the reasons I'm not super excited for VR like a lot of tech people :( I don't want to have to take nausea medicine to play a game (as it stands I won't play first person games on PC if the fov is too narrow). Gabe from Penny Arcade takes Dramamine to be able to play VR games for more than 15 minutes.
Some people can get used to it. Your brain has to learn disassociation but I've never had an issue though that weird feeling when moving with the right stick as I'm standing still, I got used to that after a few hours. I'm terrified of heights too but that went away pretty quick in VR at least, not so much the real world but guess it shows VR isn't going to help with phobias.
I wish I could have watched the video, but dear heck, my eyes wanted to run screaming for the hills. And its not just this one, but so many of the vr games do this, ah well. Still, thanks for this one.
I just bought this for £5.79 in the PlayStation summer sale. Did I make a mistake?
Weird the trailers looked really good! the foliage were sharp and graphics aswell. You're review it kinda looks blurred and bland. Could have been that they ran it on a PS4 Pro 4K. are you planning in buying a Ps4 pro ACG? :D
agreed
I think vr is trying to hard with these big titles, just keep it simple with games like batman vr, and keep games £10 or £15 , it's all about the experience, Brookhaven is great, no sickness at all in these games, just hope the developers listen to us, and build games around this.
i completed the game and i agree with most of the review, exept for the motion sickness. I played with the smooth settings and had no problem at all. maybe its just me, in that case im glad i dont suffer sickness for these types of game. if you experience MS, Windland is going to test it to the limit, as even i got the vertigo when playing at hi momentum, free look mode.
40 bucks?
In germany its 70 euro at amazon and 60 as a digital download in the PS store. :(
Unfortunately I didn't saw this video one day earlier. I bought this game one day ago and played it today.
The intro was great, where the little T-Rex popped out of the egg. But as soon I got in the Spaceship and moved a little bit, I got sick. And yeah, the "smooth" option or what it's called is terrible...
I really hope not every VR game will give me that much motion sickness, because so far I like the VR experience from what I've seen in few other games that I downloaded.
Agreed
Hey I was just wondering if you would be willing to do a review for the VR as a whole? Is it worth buying? And do all games look like you said and I quote "like they are running on N64 graphics."
maybe if I ever get time
ACG Fair enough, keep the reviews coming man they are great
All the talk of motion sickness has got me a little worried for VR, hopefully it gets better the longer you play.
ya it can work but sometimes its terrible
i dont get why people dont just stand up and use their body and head as the turning input??
Whenever there's movement perceived as bodily movement by the player and the body is not moving, it will cause this kind of sickness. They were ignoring a well known problem, for their own personal reasons. VR101.
What do you think of the Playstation VR in a Whole? Again good review and soon! Great job
Very hit and miss so far
Should I buy psVr?
great video. do more PSVR reviews!
I do whatever ones come my way!
Nice review, honestly I'm getting motion sickness from just watching, ha.
kills my soul
I played for about 40 mins. Got a bit dazed and found it pretty F'n boring.
I want Eagle flight! But thats not available yet either. I figured since a lot of people been waiting on these VR titles that they would be released at midnight. Nope.
Are the technical portions of the review, based on it being played on ps4 or ps4 pro?
Both. Remember these are the same games. There are not "better" textures on the disk for a PSpro. Just res and lighting and such which I already said was pretty good here originally. That part is on both
I haven't seen many of your VR videos, but do you take the recommended break every 1 hour lol or just keep playing for as long as you can handle it?
Whatever works many times more than 1 break an hour to check recording and such
So this is essentially a snooze fest/repetitive experience simulator 2016 in PSVR mode. I think I'll pass on this one. However, the review itself was great as always. Thanks Karak!
Maybe I've missed it, but did you play this on the original PS4 or on the Pro?
If i'm Ok with the movement in Windlands, not really getting sick. am i able to play this one?
You may be able to then!
3hrs Plodding along with VR sickness? I'd still take that over COD Infinite repetition any day :P
hahaha ya
Great vid, exactly on point..
If games are largely naff these days how is vr gonna make things better especially on struggling consoles, i simply have to go pc now, the PSmove controllers were a real bad choice. All i want is 1080p 60fps solid. And the pro cant guarantee that. Back to freflyVR 4 me, its 60bucks, has 25degrees more FOV, can stream wifi or wired any PC game in vr, plus it can use my 4k phone.
ya lots of issues
I have a rift and I tried a friend's PS VR thingy...and I have to say I get sick as all hell on the PS VR, but the rift I can have on for HOURS and not feel anything. I think it has to do with the fps to be honest.
When are you gonna review ps4 pro? Will you review any 4k hdr tv? Thanks.
yes and yes
ACG i hope soon cuz ur really a good reviewer no bs
I think a lot of the texturing issues will be addressed with the PS pro!
No same textures used
Now seeig this, I'm glad i held off on buying this game.
I think the worst thing imo is the unnatural lighting effects and the other thing that kind of ruined it for me was, I was kind of expecting more alien looking dinosaurs, but they're just normal looking dinosaurs.
Of course I'm sure it looks a hundred times better in VR and your mind will probably just except how it looks while you're playing it.
Also, this is a $40 game? Where? I've only ever seen this for $60
I ain't paying £50 for a 'VR' game that doesn't even support the move controllers?! are the developers that lazy to spend some extra time to add Move support? or does moving your hand with the VR headset make it feel more realistic? (like a deformed guy with a hand stuck to his head).. Thank god Brookhaven was released around the same time for only £15 and has great move controls.. Was really looking forwards to this game but thanks for the review I think this is one of those hyped games
Quick question man, how do you get to play these games early for reviews? Not implying any impropriety on your part, just wondering. I didn't know they gave certain TH-camrs streamers early access to some titles. Do you have to apply to review these games or something? Merely curious how the process works.
I know you weren't asking me, but I write for some relatively small sites and we get lots of review copies -- unsolicited and ones we ask for. ACG is pretty big, so I wouldn't be surprised if most companies reach out to him with review codes. There are many resources for reviewers and even more email lists to join, so there's a number of ways to get codes for reviewing games... if you have a decent TH-cam following or write for a credible site.
A large number of my games are from retail sources(not publishers or devs) otherwise I contact them or they contact me, or I buy them when they are live
Was this review on the standard ps4? I've been reading the differences after the patch will be insane on pro.
Ya looks better on the pro but doesn't fix the texturing, control, bad gameplay and otherwise
motion sickness is what I feared... VR is pretty cool but moving in a VR game always seems to be nauseating :(
agreed
I wonder if this game takes place in the same place as Uncharted 4, I mean it looks like the same guy came through ahead of you and was nice enough to paint all the rocks you can climb on. He just used orange paint this time instead of white...
lol
ACG That has to be the fastest reply I've ever seen, I literally set my tablet down and 3 seconds later I heard the ding for a notification!
lol
Have you tried it with PS4 Pro? Potential fix to the resolution issues?
Well for the cost of another system I would hope it was:) at least in a small way. But sadly that won't fix the textures, poor gameplay, or various other problems.
+ACG for sure, I was mainly referring to the first bit of your review. I wouldn't put it past them to have big improvements with the new GPU, as this game has been touted as a PS4 Pro title for some time
GPU is tied to resolution and GFX already built in. It won't fix a texture sadly. But the things I already liked about it are better with the pro.
Thanks for the thoughts, great review! I'll be getting the Pro since I don't already have a PS4, this'll be a great way to show off VR
Ya not this game though lol. That would be a disaster. I just lived through that haahah
how long do you guys think it will take to get good quality vr games ?
2-3 years for a stream of them. Where we are accustomed to them
looks pretty neat, hopefully it goes to 20 dollars during black friday.
or 10