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@@AK_804 ive played nullscapes and u have to get to around 13% oh shardscapes and then u get to play nullscapes lol (not trying to be a nerd here but yeah)
The funniest part is that all blocking cbf does is make it so that more people use a copyable of the level than the official version. It's not going to stop records of the level using cbf from being accepted on the pointercrate demonlist or the aredl, since they both allow both CBF and ldms/copyables. It's like altering your level so that it can only be played with arrow keys and spacebar, its not gonna stop people from playing it with mouse anyway
@@swii27 this will definetly bring up an interesting debate for the List, but it's undeniable that, currently, a physical change to Nullscapes by using the GD editor is the only way to play it with CBF.
The gd community is lacking so bad in terms of content that they start creating conflicts for the dumbest reason ever. It's RobTop's fault. It never feels like he owns the game. It's fully driven by the community.
@@usibistronot nessescarily robtop's, he just said he didn't like it, but some people are being foolish and insisting that everyone MUST listen to robtop or else they DIE or something stupid like that. like you said, the game is community driven, not really robtop driven. robtop has shown time and time again that he does not care about top players. and they have learned to rightfully ignore him.
0:28 Zoink is likely following what RobTop said before about levels verified with CBF, hence also why it took so long to verify. Personally, I'm torn because Robtop could rate it since Zoink didn't use CBF, but it is blocking CBF players from playing the level.
@Kysertron if zoink is forced to not use cbf to get it rated, then everyone else who plays nullscapes, should be forced to not use cbf as well. It's the only fair outcome. It is not fair for zoink if everyone else can have the advantage and it be allowed, while he cannot. I mainly think robtop should change his mind on cbf and allow it for fair use
In my opinion: 360 fps bypass is more illegitimate than CBF 360 literally changes the physics CBF just makes your clicks more accurate Also I play on mobile IOS so I have access to neither of these!
What’s worse about this is that Nullscapes is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE on 60 FPS. Edit: But whatever, it’s not like we need it. It’s just a random qol thing except it doesn’t matter that much. Why are we even bitching about CBF, it’s just a mod, so we need to let go.
I personally don’t see why people are worshipping CBF like it’s a god or something, it isn’t much of a big deal, it just makes the game easier, that’s all, so I personally respect itzkiba’s opinion, but that’s just me
Exactly, The Level is his, he can do whatever he wants. If he wants to put a CBF detector in the Level to make it harder, he can. This community has become very whiny after this mod. It will only be allowed when he actually comes to the official game? No, it is not, simple as that, period.
I dont understand why some people and robtop think cbf is bad, it should honestly be a feature in the actual game. The best way to sum it up is "it unlocks the skill you already had" how can you argue against that?
Yes this is the way to go. If it's coming to the game anyway why do we have to wait for another 7 years? Just enjoy life for as much as you can and do it early. Robtop doesn't give a heck.
Honestly, I consider this the culmination of every issue that exists in the competitive scene. Not everyone has the same beliefs on the use of mods, and everyone's kinda forced to be together, so eventually someone is going to decide "I'm f**king done" and basically do _that_ I'm an outsider in this situation, so to me it kinda looks like a bunch of people having petty arguments over an FPS mod that isn’t 100% perfect (I heard it breaks stuff sometimes), but it seems to matter a lot to these folks.
the way i see it is the cbf players got their way in regards to cbf being allowed on the list so its completely fair for level creators to decide they don't wanna be a part of that and use a blocker like this.
I have an idea to solve the CBF debate. We flip a coin, heads means CBF is allowed and encouraged, while tails means CBF is banned and considered hacking.
The weird glitch is every time i play nullscapes without cbf, it always said cbf detected loser like tf did i do??? I didn't even turn cbf on bruh, The creator need to fix now and im gonna clap his cheek bouncy like jelly belly
I personally don’t see why itzkiba took the time build the blocker. People riding CBF can be irritating, as well as people saying it’s cheating can equally as. But blocking off an entire group of people from playing your level is just purely unnecessary. Correct me if I’m wrong, but people won’t even get list points for beating levels with CBF and I think they know that. Why else would they tackle the level using CBF if not purely for fun? People make levels so that others can have fun. Let players have fun. Edit: Someone just corrected me. Playing with CBF will get you list points. Mb for not knowing. Still doesn’t change the fact that people wanna have fun regardless.
if people wanna have fun and use cbf they can play on a copyable without the detector. Kiba wanted those who would get list points on his level to play the game as intended so he completely has the right to stop people using the mod. And the fact that making such a detector is even possible is proof that everyone saying cbf doesnt change the physics knows fuck all about the mod
What will happen when 2.207 will come out? Will the level be updated to remove this anti-CBF thing? Since RobTop is working on his own version of CBF that may release in 2.207
Nullscapes is impossible on 60Hz Physics Bypass is banned Click on Steps crashes with essential mods and just in general. So what option do we 60hz players have?
@@1cn1cn1stop being petty and saying these things. This blocker makes the level more fair for the verifier who can’t use CBF. And yes it does change physics and yes you in fact need an actually good polling device for it to be better then 60 FPS
@@zhiqiangchen6235 alright, so since you need a good polling device, kiba intentionally restricted the less fortunate players to be petty. Wow thats so cool!!!!! 😀
@@zhiqiangchen6235 bro theres no way you're talking about "being fair" when the whole ass level is fucking impossible for every single 60 fps player without cbf
Because we should gatekeep extreme demons to be only for rich people who can afford 938584hz monitors, screw people who are 60hz (like me) who actually like being able to play hard levels without input delay
The point is robtop probably wouldn't rate the level if it was rated with cbf. So zoink was kind of forced to not use it. Which doesn't make it fair for zoink if other people are allowed to use cbf, while he isn't.
cbf on nullscapes would give some many people the ability to play it, the level halves my frames at some parts so it’s really nice to be able to play it still even with 120fps
i feel like if they dont allow cbf, then tidal wave would be so hard to dethrown, or a level so hard it stays as the top one forever, so using cbf would help extend the list for more top ones.
the actual funniest part is that the detector seems not to even work when you have ur fps set to 240! ive played the level a bit and i talked to some other ppl who played it with cbf on (like me) and also have fps set to 240 (like me) and our cbf usage was never detected! and yes we made it to the nullscapes part and past the intro even better is you dont even have to be running AT 240 fps, you just have to be set at it, since im set at 240 but run at around 160
the most telling thing about nullscapes is that if it stays like that until 2.21, it will literally become impossible, because robtop would officially add CBF by that point.
Any level that detects a mod or mode should never be rated! It could detect the CBF blocker for someone who doesn't even use CBF. Blocking something that gives a quality of life advantage is stupid, and defeats the whole purpose of playing top levels!
You do realize that in the same way you can disable CBF from being used, you can also make a level in MANY ways that are impossible without CBF. There’s two sides, just most forget about the second.
@VandGD but now everyone is on the same playing field and people who are good enough to seriously go for top 5s are most likely gonna have at least a decent pc, so it'll be played at 240 regardless
I wouldn't really call CBF a quality of life advantage. It makes the game significantly easier. I guess speedhack and hitbox multiplier are just quality of life too?
Update #2 to Nullscapes: They removed the CBF detector entirely, which now lowers its chances of it being rated since most people are just now going to try it with CBF enabled. RIP CBF Detector, you didn't even last three days without being removed. 9/3/24 - 9/5/24
The game is programmed to have a skill limit, while players are able to exceed it. CBF should be allowed to give players their true skill without be limited by hardware and software.
Seriously? CBF allows accesibility! Everyone has access to it, it's not an unfair advantage. I don't know why people hate the mod so much, it's a useful tool. The people commenting on how cbf will affect the demonlist are the same people who only have 6 easy demons.
It's not on mobile wdym its not an unfair advantage also I bet your not even anywhere near the skill to have cbf be actually game changing. Also, there's no point hating on people if they have a "small" number if demons it's impressive regardless gd isn't an easy game or I'm sure it is for your 3k pc 360Hz cbf carried ass to share your opinion while oppressing others because they don't meet your standard. iIs honestly quite pathetic.
i agree but not everyone has access to it since geode is not available for IOS and for android i think it’s very limited (i don’t know if CBF is supported there). either way even if there was a way to get CBF on mobile it wouldn’t matter since theres no way you’re beating a level like this on mobile lol
@@mldyfifi even so there is CBF on icreate pro (Mod Menu for IOS) but I’m not sure about that because I don’t down Icreate pro but a friend told me about that
I don't understand the CBF stuff at all, to be honest. "All the top players use it" is not an excuse for it to be allowed. It is a mod, the mod is being used to gain an advantage over others who do not use it, that is considered cheating in my world. RobTop... the creator of the game said that they don't want to add it and will not rate levels that are verified with it. Fine! That's completely fine! RobTop made the game so they should be able to control the game and people should just accept it instead of starting meaningless drama, but people will be people so there isn't really much avoiding that. The "MegaHack is a mod it should be banned then" argument. I disagree with this because using megahack helps in practice, it does not give an advantage in normal gameplay like CBF does. If there are mods in MegaHack that are allowed in normal gameplay that gain advantage that should definitely be banned. If you are using a mod, you should be able to complete a level with the same difficulty as you would be able to, in a fresh, unmodified, vanilla installation of the game.
"the creator of the game said that they don't want to add it" is factually wrong but ok also whats fps bypass again and what did people use to get that back in 2.1?
@@relangel Well like I said I don't understand the situation so if you want to enlighten me of why it's not in the game then please do. We are talking about 2.2 not 2.1 so immediately your argument is invalid. FPS bypass is now allowed because you can change it in the vanilla game by going to Graphics and Advanced.
@@seareez reason its not in the game is because rob is trying to manage a game of this size all by himself, including the dev part, wich takes time (no shit you cant directly implement stuff in a game when you're also managing every other aspect of said game) and my argument is not invalid, i"ll just explain more since it seems that its too hard to understand for you if cbf is considered an illegitimate thing now, as its indeed an advantage of some sort provided by a third party program why was fps bypass not considered illegitimate back in 2.1? be coherent with your complaints Whats the line that cbf crossed that made it worse than fps bypass back in 2.1? (fps bypass that, mind you, directly affected the game's physics, unlike cbf)
@@relangelIt's so amazing that you can't be respectful towards an opinion that you start getting sarcastic and rude, almost like a Twitter user. People used FPS bypass because nobody cared. My belief is that yes, FPS bypass in 2.1 is considered illegitimate. HOWEVER, RobTop rated levels that players used FPS bypass so it's quite obvious they did not care. I don't understand why you think that talking about a different version of the game is important here. **This is not 2.1**, I don't know what you don't understand about that, **it is a different version of the game, a different era, rules change**. I can give you an example of something that happened in my community recently. In Portal 2, you can see angle numbers, position numbers, and velocity numbers. People used 3 decimal placements of precision because that's just what people used... it was discovered recently that in vanilla game the most amount of decimal placements was 2, so after 10 years of using 3 decimal placements we can only use 2 now. (It actually really affects the game). And before you use my words against mine "That's a different game so it's irrelevant", yes, it's a different game but it's just a general example of rules changing after years of being broken unknowingly.
@@seareez im a twitter user my mental capacity cannot comprehend anything that comes from a game i havent played also for a decent portion of time, robtop did care about bypass, and refused to rate levels that were verified with said tool, but community pressure lead to him rating those anyway somewhere down the line majority will always end up winning wether its right or wrong, and in some measure you are right, third party program affecting game = not ok shouldnt be considered legit but sadly the same thing that happened with bypass will happen with cbf eventually history has a tendency to repeat itself
I feel like the main point about CBF is that it shouldn't even be needed to begin with. But it's just the nature of a game like this in particular, that most casual players will just be alienated from the larger community. I personally dislike that they do tend to end up this way, but it's not like I can stop it from happening. So basically, just let people use it at this point, cause the game is a sweatfest now anyway. Been that way since 2.0
This controversial is so dumb.😭 It's a timing level, and if the timing level was balanced around regular gd, then it has every right to make it illegitimate to play with CBF mod. You know, the one that makes timing easier.
it makes sense for nullscape more than something like buff this (ik buff this here is like the nightmare is to buff this but its an extremely ship heavy level which fits my point). nullscapes uses timing based on framerate, because less framerate means less opportunities to click, so more input delay. cbf makes timings (every click in nullscape) easier, because you get (basically) infinite opportunity to click. buff this just makes it more accurate with cbf. so nullscape i think even though is weird, it should be able to block cbf, because it makes it easier very significantly.
Robtop should just add CBF as an optional thing in the menu, and might as well should just add refresh rates from 60hz to 360hz and an optional configuration for certain gameplay.
The one thing I’d say is that levels that are beat, for example on 60 hertz with CBF should not go towards the LRR demon list, because it’s insanely unfair for records previous when they were beat with regular 60hz. Let players who beat demons on those conditions be accepted into the genuine demon list only.
1:00 this is the exact problem I have with cbf being banned, it feels like people are just looking for reasons to invalidate people's achievements now. Unfortunately, Rob disapproves of CBF, meaning that in the mean time it is cheating.
1:38 My thoughts are: yes. I agree. Cbf should be not approved because my aeternus verification needs balancing. Having a controversy about cbf should be stopped. 2.207 which is the new update for gd, robtop will work on his own cbf. That way, i think there might be a chance people wont use it. My only answer is: CBF should be not used at all.
I seriously don't know why so many people are mad about cbf detectors. I think they should actually be encouraged if the verifier wants other people to play by their rules
I would like that CBF gets added into the game or that Rub rates levels verified with CBF. But in the today world it's totally unfair that if you want to verify a top 10 and get it rated, you can't use CBF so you have to suffer the immense difficulty of the level while the victors just have to install a mod to essentially make the level free because the level is straight up timings and frame perfects therefore make the rating of the level very innacurrate. I am totally for CBF use but if a level is made for vanilla GD and don't want you to use a mod then you have no rights to complain because it's just "fixing" the level exactly like fixed hitboxes, just think of it like a buff. The last thing to say is that this community is disapointing me, we always fought for equality with the fps bypass for people with less money to be able to have a chance in top play but now we're fighting against equality, in disfavor of the verifiers.
0:47 I think this will make people realise that you don't need CBF to be good (also, I don't know if I'm the only one with this issue, but for me CBF just makes the levels a little harder and forces me to pause using th eEsc key, which is uncomfortable)
Agree. Cbf is so *unfair* ~mario~. So meaning that we cant use cbf that way because it might become easier or harder. I laid it in balance by not using CBF. My aeternus verification needs balancing so i can complete it without cbf. Thus being top 1 or top 2.
2:14 sorry I pronounced his name wrong, it is Xstar7 😭
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It took the level 7 minutes for it to find out i'm using CBF
That’s not how it works
After 20 attempts on shardscapes it takes you to the detector
@@AK_804 ive played nullscapes and u have to get to around 13% oh shardscapes and then u get to play nullscapes lol (not trying to be a nerd here but yeah)
@@bruhaccountsidk_2 it’s either one, 13% or 20 attempts
@@AK_804*10 att
1:40 bro beats slaughterhouse for breakfast, lunch and dinner
He cooked it
It's fake
1:40 slaughterhouse is basically stereo madness for wpopoff at this point
Fax
Not to that extent
that why popoff is the goat
“Yay”
Nah maybe the lightning road for him
3:23 Prop to the guy who made a moon with 0 object
Such a professional creator 🎉🎉🎉 probably the next culuc
And he even made a whole city too 🤩
isnt it crazy
fr, hes insane. How does one do this!
backroom is a 0 object
The funniest part is that all blocking cbf does is make it so that more people use a copyable of the level than the official version. It's not going to stop records of the level using cbf from being accepted on the pointercrate demonlist or the aredl, since they both allow both CBF and ldms/copyables. It's like altering your level so that it can only be played with arrow keys and spacebar, its not gonna stop people from playing it with mouse anyway
thing is bypassing cbf block requires noclip and removing it means you changed the level, both resulting in illegitimate records
arent bugfixed copies of levels allowed on the list? if so then maybe a fixed ver which you can use cbf on might be allowed
thats literally nerfing the level its not a "bugfix" 💀
@@kerade_real it was just a thought but fair enough, it would be nerfing the level
@@swii27 this will definetly bring up an interesting debate for the List, but it's undeniable that, currently, a physical change to Nullscapes by using the GD editor is the only way to play it with CBF.
the cbf detector is so funny 💀
True😂
True💀
True people like Npesta can’t take a joke
@@TheEditoor but tis isn't à joke
New verification, new controversy
yep just like any other zoink verifications like avernus and tidal wave lol
I knew nullscapes was gonna be controversial just by looking at the comment section for 5 seconds
The gd community is lacking so bad in terms of content that they start creating conflicts for the dumbest reason ever.
It's RobTop's fault. It never feels like he owns the game. It's fully driven by the community.
@@usibistroso kinda like the us in the 80s
@@usibistronot nessescarily robtop's, he just said he didn't like it, but some people are being foolish and insisting that everyone MUST listen to robtop or else they DIE or something stupid like that. like you said, the game is community driven, not really robtop driven. robtop has shown time and time again that he does not care about top players. and they have learned to rightfully ignore him.
0:07 never thought his intro would have a fire beat in it
That isn’t fire lmao
@@Idont_eatcrocs deftones
💀
@@Personb-yt7hu is that deftones I'm reading 🤨
@@Personb-yt7hu I forgot who deftones are
The CBF blocker gives off anti piracy vibes. However if I see more levels use it I will start tweaking
Yeah, if most top demons use it, sure I guess. But if regular demons use it? I'm pulling out the pitchforks and torch
@@janzimon12 I fear they might. Also to seek attention
bro it's not that hard to play without cbf @@janzimon12
I know Limbo has like one or two anti-cheats, but those aren't related to cbf anyway
i mean whatever make your own copy, delete it
0:28 Zoink is likely following what RobTop said before about levels verified with CBF, hence also why it took so long to verify. Personally, I'm torn because Robtop could rate it since Zoink didn't use CBF, but it is blocking CBF players from playing the level.
Womp womp CBF players should get some actual skill 😆
@@p8geons233 who's doggie then?
@@p8geons233 I thought it makes the game more accurate rather than giving an unfair advantage but idk maybe you're just better than doggie
@Kysertron if zoink is forced to not use cbf to get it rated, then everyone else who plays nullscapes, should be forced to not use cbf as well. It's the only fair outcome. It is not fair for zoink if everyone else can have the advantage and it be allowed, while he cannot. I mainly think robtop should change his mind on cbf and allow it for fair use
@@holdencreagh797 A person who uses a mod to gain an advantage over those who dont
In my opinion:
360 fps bypass is more illegitimate than CBF
360 literally changes the physics
CBF just makes your clicks more accurate
Also I play on mobile IOS so I have access to neither of these!
Soooo true
Me when CBF also does
@@zhiqiangchen6235
But also CBF is wildly more available than 360
As well as CBF being free while Mega Hack isn’t
360 is not allowed for 2.2?
@@Cr34kyphysics bypass I guess
Even though it was banned
Hello this is your daily dose of stupid controversy.
Nah this one’s justified actually
Zoink verifications trying not to spark a community wide controversy:
yea, its stupid, like almost every controversy
2:01 - the seven circles
The most evil gameplay I’ve ever seen
Literally brutal
Literally nine circles ship
Fortified nine circles ship🚢
If anything good happens, there’s always going to be controversy
SO TRUE THO
I mean, is a cbf blocker good tho?
@@-cascade.no
@@-cascade.Yes
What’s worse about this is that Nullscapes is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE on 60 FPS.
Edit: But whatever, it’s not like we need it. It’s just a random qol thing except it doesn’t matter that much. Why are we even bitching about CBF, it’s just a mod, so we need to let go.
Kiba is so smart 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a cooll guy
probably meant for 120+
@@Thecorai bypass is literally free and nobody is beating that on mobile anyways
@@boolywok26 3 years
almost like every single top 10 is physically impossible on 60 fps
(still think the cbf detector is hella dumb though)
I personally don’t see why people are worshipping CBF like it’s a god or something, it isn’t much of a big deal, it just makes the game easier, that’s all, so I personally respect itzkiba’s opinion, but that’s just me
finally a person who has something called basic logic
It doesn't make the game easier. Rather it makes it more accurate and accessible to much more people
Exactly, The Level is his, he can do whatever he wants. If he wants to put a CBF detector in the Level to make it harder, he can. This community has become very whiny after this mod. It will only be allowed when he actually comes to the official game? No, it is not, simple as that, period.
@@joopozo i think making clicks more accurate makes the game easier
@@joopozoIf you left the game more "Accurate" would be allowed in the official game
I dont understand why some people and robtop think cbf is bad, it should honestly be a feature in the actual game. The best way to sum it up is "it unlocks the skill you already had" how can you argue against that?
Honestly, the CBF controversy is so bad it shouldnt even exist
My honest opinion: let people have CBF while RobTop works on his own CBF
should
You can say this about every controversy
Yes this is the way to go.
If it's coming to the game anyway why do we have to wait for another 7 years? Just enjoy life for as much as you can and do it early. Robtop doesn't give a heck.
@@usibistro exactly, and when RobTop officially releases his CBF, just toss away the current one
@@RenardioMFGi don't see how talking about cbf has something to do with most controversias
/j
I actually question how the hell kiba actually managed to make a detector
Slopes. A trigger measures how high you go. CBF makes you go higher
Cbf changes the physics, kiba detected that change.
3:12
Wow thats good
YO THATS AMAZING
(Spontaneusly combusts)
Just in spite of Kibo, I want to turn on CBF and just sit there in Nullscapes
interesting use of your time but I won't judge
Getting that Level to Top Two means Everything
This drama made realize why there are people who want CBF banned just to spite people who support it.
how to create geometry dash drama:
1. Verify top demon
2. Use cbf
3. Congratulations
I swear you could literally beat stereo madness and people on twitter would find a way to stir up some drama
Omg someone beat stereo madness?
That's literally true, some people will literally go off to say " loser " or other things
me after i beat stereo madness with CBF :
People need to realise that zoink didnt use cbf so the level can be rated. It would not be fair for others to use cbf while the verifier cant.
Agree
@@dreamsdicc1817 solution: apply pressure on robtop to release it sooner so everyone can stop complaining
Honestly a really fair take. I still think calling the player a "loser" is taking it way too far, tho
but no one really has the skills of zoink
@@tart_tv he is literally not the top 1 player anymore he is basically retired
"Erm, ive detected you're using the Quests on Pause Screen mod, you are banned from playing my level"
Honestly, I consider this the culmination of every issue that exists in the competitive scene. Not everyone has the same beliefs on the use of mods, and everyone's kinda forced to be together, so eventually someone is going to decide "I'm f**king done" and basically do _that_
I'm an outsider in this situation, so to me it kinda looks like a bunch of people having petty arguments over an FPS mod that isn’t 100% perfect (I heard it breaks stuff sometimes), but it seems to matter a lot to these folks.
the way i see it is the cbf players got their way in regards to cbf being allowed on the list so its completely fair for level creators to decide they don't wanna be a part of that and use a blocker like this.
I have an idea to solve the CBF debate. We flip a coin, heads means CBF is allowed and encouraged, while tails means CBF is banned and considered hacking.
just flipped a coin and got heads
The weird glitch is every time i play nullscapes without cbf, it always said cbf detected loser like tf did i do??? I didn't even turn cbf on bruh, The creator need to fix now and im gonna clap his cheek bouncy like jelly belly
I agree with Voxicat, There’s no reason for cbf to cause controversy.
2:34 PEAK MEANS EVERYTHING MENTIONED
No idea how i ended up here thanks to the guy submitting my run and you for putting me in 🤩🤩
me!!! im the guy!!
@@mldyfifi 🤗hi
0:13 I love how everytime there's a controversy you talk on your video, the background music is from Plants vs Zombies lol
I personally don’t see why itzkiba took the time build the blocker. People riding CBF can be irritating, as well as people saying it’s cheating can equally as. But blocking off an entire group of people from playing your level is just purely unnecessary. Correct me if I’m wrong, but people won’t even get list points for beating levels with CBF and I think they know that. Why else would they tackle the level using CBF if not purely for fun? People make levels so that others can have fun. Let players have fun.
Edit: Someone just corrected me. Playing with CBF will get you list points. Mb for not knowing. Still doesn’t change the fact that people wanna have fun regardless.
Cbf is allowed
if people wanna have fun and use cbf they can play on a copyable without the detector. Kiba wanted those who would get list points on his level to play the game as intended so he completely has the right to stop people using the mod. And the fact that making such a detector is even possible is proof that everyone saying cbf doesnt change the physics knows fuck all about the mod
I guess so. But just cuz it’s right doesn’t mean it’s right.
CBF = Chicken Bacon Fries
Thx, I now want eat
What will happen when 2.207 will come out? Will the level be updated to remove this anti-CBF thing? Since RobTop is working on his own version of CBF that may release in 2.207
Nullscapes is impossible on 60Hz
Physics Bypass is banned
Click on Steps crashes with essential mods and just in general.
So what option do we 60hz players have?
@@Mistkiba is gonna put a 61hz frame perfect at the beginning and put a cbf detector to filter out poor people
I mean is anybody really beating any top 30 on 60hz? @@1cn1cn1
@@1cn1cn1stop being petty and saying these things. This blocker makes the level more fair for the verifier who can’t use CBF. And yes it does change physics and yes you in fact need an actually good polling device for it to be better then 60 FPS
@@zhiqiangchen6235 alright, so since you need a good polling device, kiba intentionally restricted the less fortunate players to be petty. Wow thats so cool!!!!! 😀
@@zhiqiangchen6235 bro theres no way you're talking about "being fair" when the whole ass level is fucking impossible for every single 60 fps player without cbf
The phonk muaic goes INSANEly HARD if you ask me
1:52 Ain’t no way bros reaction was “yay” 💀
he prolly has beaten it 100 times tho
@@Spectre16fr
I mean it's wPopoff
That intro was smooth
Cbf is meant to make your clicks more accurate, so it makes the game fair for everyone.
Where's the problem with that?
Because we should gatekeep extreme demons to be only for rich people who can afford 938584hz monitors, screw people who are 60hz (like me) who actually like being able to play hard levels without input delay
@@smallxplosion9546because we should gatekeep demons to only pc players
The point is robtop probably wouldn't rate the level if it was rated with cbf. So zoink was kind of forced to not use it. Which doesn't make it fair for zoink if other people are allowed to use cbf, while he isn't.
@@dreamsdicc1817 ok that actually makes sense why wouldn’t anyone else say that
@@smallxplosion9546 Fax No Printer
Me just trying to enjoy watching a cool new level, and then the whole community is fighting over it, like bruh :/
2:09 the fucking clip lagged my iphone somehow 😭
cbf on nullscapes would give some many people the ability to play it, the level halves my frames at some parts so it’s really nice to be able to play it still even with 120fps
Lullscapes, OFC… a Controversy about a Top Demon
So when rob implements his integrated cbf nullscapes would be a physically impossible rated lvl
Then there will be 2 of them!
Then kiba will remove it it’s not that deep
There were very many physically impossible rated levels when 2.2 released and still are
@@piguy8876 ok well 2 intentionally impossible levels
He will be updated and there we go
i feel like if they dont allow cbf, then tidal wave would be so hard to dethrown, or a level so hard it stays as the top one forever, so using cbf would help extend the list for more top ones.
2:07 this gp belongs to top 1 level
It makes sense why they wouldn’t want it to be used cuz it’s a frame perfect challenge basically
One like in 15s, bro came back
Idk why but seeing this comment just made my day and restored my fate in humanity.
not funny
@@ltgcreative1843 yes funny
@@theantrules6436 ok
the actual funniest part is that the detector seems not to even work when you have ur fps set to 240! ive played the level a bit and i talked to some other ppl who played it with cbf on (like me) and also have fps set to 240 (like me) and our cbf usage was never detected! and yes we made it to the nullscapes part and past the intro
even better is you dont even have to be running AT 240 fps, you just have to be set at it, since im set at 240 but run at around 160
WEdgeOff Keeping that Edging and Mewing Streak while doing Slaughterhouse too
Bro commented 5 times to try to get top comment 💀 how desperate do you have to be
@@Georogos Eh I don’t know about that
@@GeorogosProbably a glitch or something
@@janzimon12Huh
So this is where the CBF memes came from
2:45 normal german reaction when besting ez demon lol
Question of a non German speaker: what did he say🤔?
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Place an object in front of the moon on the built-in background and then delete it
2:14 "7stars" 💀💀💀
the most telling thing about nullscapes is that if it stays like that until 2.21, it will literally become impossible, because robtop would officially add CBF by that point.
Any level that detects a mod or mode should never be rated! It could detect the CBF blocker for someone who doesn't even use CBF. Blocking something that gives a quality of life advantage is stupid, and defeats the whole purpose of playing top levels!
You do realize that in the same way you can disable CBF from being used, you can also make a level in MANY ways that are impossible without CBF. There’s two sides, just most forget about the second.
@@zhiqiangchen6235 I heard something like CBF makes the infamous quadruple spike finally possible without any shifting, so yeah
It will be rated lol robtop probably supports this
@VandGD but now everyone is on the same playing field and people who are good enough to seriously go for top 5s are most likely gonna have at least a decent pc, so it'll be played at 240 regardless
I wouldn't really call CBF a quality of life advantage. It makes the game significantly easier. I guess speedhack and hitbox multiplier are just quality of life too?
Update #2 to Nullscapes:
They removed the CBF detector entirely, which now lowers its chances of it being rated since most people are just now going to try it with CBF enabled.
RIP CBF Detector, you didn't even last three days without being removed.
9/3/24 - 9/5/24
nvm it still exists
@@SenseiSnesei bro didnt even check for himself at the first time
2:39 whitecat but in gd
VAS?!
1:40 i think wPopoff beats slaughterhouse as warm up, like my guy just beat a top 10 like its stereo madness tf
The game is programmed to have a skill limit, while players are able to exceed it. CBF should be allowed to give players their true skill without be limited by hardware and software.
Yea but not as a mod
Even RobTop plans to add something similar, but CBF is useful for low Hz monitors, so it is still good, but it doesn't change a lot tho
People get pissed if someone uses cbf, and they get pissed if someone blocks cbf in their level
There’s no winning
the same people aren’t arguing both sides though?
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Seriously? CBF allows accesibility! Everyone has access to it, it's not an unfair advantage. I don't know why people hate the mod so much, it's a useful tool. The people commenting on how cbf will affect the demonlist are the same people who only have 6 easy demons.
People hate poor people 😂
It is. You have an unfair advantage to Zoink and mobile players and still poor people.
It's not on mobile wdym its not an unfair advantage also I bet your not even anywhere near the skill to have cbf be actually game changing.
Also, there's no point hating on people if they have a "small" number if demons it's impressive regardless gd isn't an easy game or I'm sure it is for your 3k pc 360Hz cbf carried ass to share your opinion while oppressing others because they don't meet your standard. iIs honestly quite pathetic.
i agree but not everyone has access to it since geode is not available for IOS and for android i think it’s very limited (i don’t know if CBF is supported there).
either way even if there was a way to get CBF on mobile it wouldn’t matter since theres no way you’re beating a level like this on mobile lol
@@mldyfifi even so there is CBF on icreate pro (Mod Menu for IOS) but I’m not sure about that because I don’t down Icreate pro but a friend told me about that
wPopoff has an unlimited repository of skill im actually so jealous
I don't understand the CBF stuff at all, to be honest.
"All the top players use it" is not an excuse for it to be allowed. It is a mod, the mod is being used to gain an advantage over others who do not use it, that is considered cheating in my world. RobTop... the creator of the game said that they don't want to add it and will not rate levels that are verified with it. Fine! That's completely fine! RobTop made the game so they should be able to control the game and people should just accept it instead of starting meaningless drama, but people will be people so there isn't really much avoiding that.
The "MegaHack is a mod it should be banned then" argument. I disagree with this because using megahack helps in practice, it does not give an advantage in normal gameplay like CBF does. If there are mods in MegaHack that are allowed in normal gameplay that gain advantage that should definitely be banned.
If you are using a mod, you should be able to complete a level with the same difficulty as you would be able to, in a fresh, unmodified, vanilla installation of the game.
"the creator of the game said that they don't want to add it" is factually wrong but ok
also whats fps bypass again and what did people use to get that back in 2.1?
@@relangel Well like I said I don't understand the situation so if you want to enlighten me of why it's not in the game then please do.
We are talking about 2.2 not 2.1 so immediately your argument is invalid. FPS bypass is now allowed because you can change it in the vanilla game by going to Graphics and Advanced.
@@seareez reason its not in the game is because rob is trying to manage a game of this size all by himself, including the dev part, wich takes time (no shit you cant directly implement stuff in a game when you're also managing every other aspect of said game)
and my argument is not invalid, i"ll just explain more since it seems that its too hard to understand for you
if cbf is considered an illegitimate thing now, as its indeed an advantage of some sort provided by a third party program
why was fps bypass not considered illegitimate back in 2.1?
be coherent with your complaints
Whats the line that cbf crossed that made it worse than fps bypass back in 2.1? (fps bypass that, mind you, directly affected the game's physics, unlike cbf)
@@relangelIt's so amazing that you can't be respectful towards an opinion that you start getting sarcastic and rude, almost like a Twitter user.
People used FPS bypass because nobody cared. My belief is that yes, FPS bypass in 2.1 is considered illegitimate. HOWEVER, RobTop rated levels that players used FPS bypass so it's quite obvious they did not care.
I don't understand why you think that talking about a different version of the game is important here. **This is not 2.1**, I don't know what you don't understand about that, **it is a different version of the game, a different era, rules change**.
I can give you an example of something that happened in my community recently. In Portal 2, you can see angle numbers, position numbers, and velocity numbers. People used 3 decimal placements of precision because that's just what people used... it was discovered recently that in vanilla game the most amount of decimal placements was 2, so after 10 years of using 3 decimal placements we can only use 2 now. (It actually really affects the game). And before you use my words against mine "That's a different game so it's irrelevant", yes, it's a different game but it's just a general example of rules changing after years of being broken unknowingly.
@@seareez im a twitter user my mental capacity cannot comprehend anything that comes from a game i havent played
also for a decent portion of time, robtop did care about bypass, and refused to rate levels that were verified with said tool, but community pressure lead to him rating those anyway somewhere down the line
majority will always end up winning wether its right or wrong,
and in some measure you are right, third party program affecting game = not ok shouldnt be considered legit
but sadly the same thing that happened with bypass will happen with cbf eventually
history has a tendency to repeat itself
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I feel like the main point about CBF is that it shouldn't even be needed to begin with. But it's just the nature of a game like this in particular, that most casual players will just be alienated from the larger community. I personally dislike that they do tend to end up this way, but it's not like I can stop it from happening. So basically, just let people use it at this point, cause the game is a sweatfest now anyway. Been that way since 2.0
gd twitter tries to not complain for 1 minute (impossible)
bad excuse for dismissing progress for the game
This controversial is so dumb.😭 It's a timing level, and if the timing level was balanced around regular gd, then it has every right to make it illegitimate to play with CBF mod. You know, the one that makes timing easier.
“Nah I’d win” _makes it in minus one objects_
3:17 spot the difference (impossible) (harder than tidal wave)
it makes sense for nullscape more than something like buff this (ik buff this here is like the nightmare is to buff this but its an extremely ship heavy level which fits my point). nullscapes uses timing based on framerate, because less framerate means less opportunities to click, so more input delay. cbf makes timings (every click in nullscape) easier, because you get (basically) infinite opportunity to click. buff this just makes it more accurate with cbf. so nullscape i think even though is weird, it should be able to block cbf, because it makes it easier very significantly.
A CBF mod detector is absolutely hilarious, idk why people are mad about it
same
They are mad because they want to use it
@@fazaazafg they could just make a copy and remove the detector
@@HyperX755 Yeah, I know, they don't need to be mad about it
Robtop should just add CBF as an optional thing in the menu, and might as well should just add refresh rates from 60hz to 360hz and an optional configuration for certain gameplay.
If robtop doesn't like CBF, then Zoink should stick with that (so that it won't take years to get rated, like tidal wave)
we're back with the ... controversy scheme of video titles
3:14 now place gru
I used to hate the level for no reason, now I have a reason to love it.
What kiba did is completely fair. Who would want someone to use cheats on their level?
Few people will play In Kiba version, Most people will play Nullscapes Cbf. Because, this level has very bad gp
@@hotoboklolthose that do on a copyable without cbf detector won’t get past 5&
people on 60 have this level phisically impossible, and you call this cheating ?
@@jonatanpl3899 im pretty sure no top 10 other than i think tidal wave is possible on 60
@@AarxyGD yeah, thats why CBF exists
The one thing I’d say is that levels that are beat, for example on 60 hertz with CBF should not go towards the LRR demon list, because it’s insanely unfair for records previous when they were beat with regular 60hz. Let players who beat demons on those conditions be accepted into the genuine demon list only.
FINNALLY A BLOCKER FOR CBF, WE ARE SAVED MOBILE PLAYERS!!! :D
acting like any mobile player could beat nullscapes lol
@@nkcu i'm not acting like a mobile player can beat nullscapes
I legit thought my computer was glitching with the intro because my screen cracked recently
The other thing with nullscapes is that when you practice it, the level is nerfed 💀
3:16 bro really took a picture of the moon and thought we wouldn’t notice
0:08 Brazilian phonk 👎
Vit12 phonk 👍
Considering vit12 is Brazilian I can see why the phonk is fire
1:00 this is the exact problem I have with cbf being banned, it feels like people are just looking for reasons to invalidate people's achievements now. Unfortunately, Rob disapproves of CBF, meaning that in the mean time it is cheating.
Demonlist approved CBF. But if robtop disaproves it with a twitter nessage, the demonlist will now *ban* cbf.
1:19 noclip? WHAT?!
1:38 My thoughts are: yes. I agree. Cbf should be not approved because my aeternus verification needs balancing. Having a controversy about cbf should be stopped. 2.207 which is the new update for gd, robtop will work on his own cbf. That way, i think there might be a chance people wont use it. My only answer is: CBF should be not used at all.
I seriously don't know why so many people are mad about cbf detectors. I think they should actually be encouraged if the verifier wants other people to play by their rules
Jit really just got a Picture of the Moon other than the Actual thing ☠️ The other Two Moons is so much more Accurate and Researched upon
nullscapes: literally nullscapes
daily dose of gd: DRAMAAAAAAAAA MAAAMAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
??? Shut the hell up
Who could've seen this coming ._.
Nullscapes>avernus
1:40 and meanwhile I spent 3 Years and 300k Attempts to beat my first easy demon
I would like that CBF gets added into the game or that Rub rates levels verified with CBF.
But in the today world it's totally unfair that if you want to verify a top 10 and get it rated, you can't use CBF so you have to suffer the immense difficulty of the level while the victors just have to install a mod to essentially make the level free because the level is straight up timings and frame perfects therefore make the rating of the level very innacurrate.
I am totally for CBF use but if a level is made for vanilla GD and don't want you to use a mod then you have no rights to complain because it's just "fixing" the level exactly like fixed hitboxes, just think of it like a buff.
The last thing to say is that this community is disapointing me, we always fought for equality with the fps bypass for people with less money to be able to have a chance in top play but now we're fighting against equality, in disfavor of the verifiers.
saying cbf makes the level completely free is crazy 😭😭
@@pablitoburrito4342because according to Zoink it does. Heliopolis also becomes wildly different in difficulty apparently
0:47 I think this will make people realise that you don't need CBF to be good (also, I don't know if I'm the only one with this issue, but for me CBF just makes the levels a little harder and forces me to pause using th eEsc key, which is uncomfortable)
Literally skill issue
Agree. Cbf is so *unfair* ~mario~. So meaning that we cant use cbf that way because it might become easier or harder. I laid it in balance by not using CBF. My aeternus verification needs balancing so i can complete it without cbf. Thus being top 1 or top 2.