TRIGGER WARNING: Cheap Amazon Sub Better Than Expense Sundown Sub??

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  • @ModernAdventures-w1u
    @ModernAdventures-w1u 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I'm 40 years old, and my son is 17. I have the American bass HD v2 dual 12s on the smart bass taramps 5k, and my son keeps telling me I'm too old. I'm like bro how can anyone be too old to enjoy loud music or to just enjoy something, period? Lol.

    • @txddyfarquh69
      @txddyfarquh69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      A shame if you didn't try and bring him up on 808 SPLing lol he mightv turned out abit more appreciative and supportive of your Hobby.. NOT that you need his 17y.o validation tho😅😂

    • @Hertzsogood219
      @Hertzsogood219 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cops always tell me I'm too old. I'm 51 and I have 2 SoundQubed HDX3 15's on 2 S1-2250's in a 9.5 cube box tuned to 24hz in a Chevy Cobalt. Your never too old to bass.

    • @bobstone1746
      @bobstone1746 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm 41 with a 15" sundown V2 in my truck, a soundqueb 18" in the shed I need to build a box for and a 15" deafbounce in my honda. My daughter is 20 and has a car seat in her back seat so who's winning now!!!!! Haha guys it's fine, atleast our kids are grown

    • @beemaster-h9t
      @beemaster-h9t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im 14 and i think speakers are sick, im building one right now

    • @anthonyjackson6321
      @anthonyjackson6321 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right" lol I'm 52" got 4 8" fosgate on a 1500 skar, fixing put two 12 with the 4 -8's

  • @Tron1731
    @Tron1731 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would rather have an american bass xfl 1522 it's better than the bolth of these subwoofers

    • @Luminous.Dynamics
      @Luminous.Dynamics 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats what Im running. The thing is loud as hell, or at least thats what Ive been told. Always get asked what Im running in parking lots or at intersection red lights

  • @jper7234
    @jper7234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sundown overprice

  • @Bassntahoe3428
    @Bassntahoe3428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Do another test on the Amazon sub, and take it 250 to 300 watts over RMS like you did with the sundown and see what the outcome is . Just curious to see if it could handle the same RMS overage like was done to the sundown. Good videos my friend!

    • @waynejones4005
      @waynejones4005 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Was about to post this exact comment

    • @westreadwell9675
      @westreadwell9675 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@waynejones4005same

    • @kamilrybicki8490
      @kamilrybicki8490 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He didn't cause the subs where basically the same and i would also think that a brand that usually rates subs for 2krms and they work fine at over 3k would be able to handle a bit more

    • @MotoAtheist
      @MotoAtheist 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I don't believe all Sundown subs are made to handle over RMS, they do that for their higher level subs only.

    • @Bassntahoe3428
      @Bassntahoe3428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kamilrybicki8490 how are they basically the same when one is rated 300 RMS more than the other? Low end sundown subs are not like the higher end sundown subs that can handle over double the RMS. I still would like to see the Amazon sub run through the same test over 250,300 RMS.

  • @dabeardsmen3621
    @dabeardsmen3621 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I will never own a Sundown Sub because they all are Over Priced out the ass ain’t no mf way in hell and yes I can afford them but I’m not stupid!!!

  • @joeyholthusen6495
    @joeyholthusen6495 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Try a dayton audio kraken!

  • @marcusstanley9317
    @marcusstanley9317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Or just pay $169 for a Skar DDX 15 d2, 1000 watts RMS and beat both of those 15s

    • @kidsavage86
      @kidsavage86 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or a American bass that's even better for a lil more that xr is a beast

    • @marcusstanley9317
      @marcusstanley9317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kidsavage86 yes American Bass is another great option 👌

  • @Angel_xXx_76
    @Angel_xXx_76 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    It’s funny how Parker calls it “the Chinese sub” when every sub is technically a “Chinese sub”, 😂😂😢😢

    • @marcusstanley9317
      @marcusstanley9317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      All companies source their parts from China. People talk crap about Chinese products while they watch these videos on their Chinese phone😂

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Haha that is a good point!

    • @Kenmarshallintereststx
      @Kenmarshallintereststx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We are in a tense military situation with China right but the truth is they could hack or system and beat us without firing a shot or parker could quit doing these videos and Jeff bezos quit selling Chinese stuff and just those two people alone if they had to would ruin the Chinese 😂

    • @Chuck_Sanders
      @Chuck_Sanders 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@marcusstanley9317

    • @ddtstrc9678
      @ddtstrc9678 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everything is made in China if it wasn't most US citizens could not afford to even buy it.

  • @deontay79ify
    @deontay79ify 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sundown fanboys are about to make soo many excuses

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’ve already got a couple haha

  • @technicianumber1288
    @technicianumber1288 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    For the price point, I've always felt Sundown is overrated. If I was gonna "waste" money on expensive car audio, it would be on JL Audio.

    • @honda-s2k
      @honda-s2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i have 3 jl 8w6 and 1 jl 18w6. best subs i've owned besides the rf hx2 12s i have.

    • @groundshakersociety6637
      @groundshakersociety6637 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Sundown and JL are not comparable. One brand is dedicated to spl and the other sq.

    • @honda-s2k
      @honda-s2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@groundshakersociety6637 yes they are. the Sundown Audio E15 v.4 has the same wattage as my jl 18 w6. the Sundown Audio E15 v.4 shown in this video has a reinforced paper cone...........paper cones are used for sound quality. the Sundown Audio E15 v.4 blowing at 800 watts of power is not spl hahahahahaha. can't fix ignorant people. jl audio is daily driver and sound quality.

    • @NerdyBassHead
      @NerdyBassHead 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Not really
      Don't always need to buy new either
      U probably never experienced a sundown sub
      Them subs can shake buildings under 20 hz

    • @terryburton971
      @terryburton971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I don't know about JL man.. I had the w3v2s 12s back in early 2000ish and the foam surrounds on those things suck I don't do jl they're overrated to me big time

  • @91CavGT5
    @91CavGT5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I would love for you to test out some Savard subs! They have 3 different lines of subwoofers. The Rap, HiQ, and the newest SPL focused one(I can’t remember the name). I’ve owned the HiQ line and have been VERY impressed with it.

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah I need to look into them more!

    • @brockmarquis8511
      @brockmarquis8511 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yes sir please take a look at the HO series. They also have an HO Elite focused more on spl. ID rather see the HO series myself. Great video dude.​@@ParkerTheBasshead

    • @supadupa6891
      @supadupa6891 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ParkerTheBassheadyea man I wanna see the HiQ Savards too

    • @24-7flounderproblem
      @24-7flounderproblem 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Savard has been around for a very long time they make quality products..would love to see some of their subs tested plz 🙏 god bless

    • @stevenladner4977
      @stevenladner4977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Parker, been loving the vids. I would love to see a test on the Alpine type S 12in sub.

  • @chriscuthbertson
    @chriscuthbertson 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The Amazon sub was louder at 142.4 compared to the Sundown at 142.2

    • @drrckhamilton
      @drrckhamilton 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Think that you could hear the difference?

    • @mrcrunch8000
      @mrcrunch8000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@drrckhamilton that wasn't the point of his comment. He misread a reading in the video and then went on to claim the other was louder which wasn't true. I'm sure you wouldn't have commented if it was the other way around though.

    • @drrckhamilton
      @drrckhamilton 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mrcrunch8000
      Possibly, you are used to dealing with teenagers, which is no crime, but you assume that I have a dog in this race, so to speak. I personally have very expensive gear that I really enjoy and budget gear that I really enjoy as well. I have absolutely no brand loyalty, as I have found over many years that most brands can have good gear and bad gear. A bit of advice to you. Don't assume that people who you are encountering today are the same in their thoughts and perspectives as people who you have previously encountered. This might lead to an incorrect view of that individual. Good luck, and enjoy whatever gear you have.

    • @joeldycus
      @joeldycus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The ZVX line of Skar isn't even close to the Nightshade. Remember guys, you get what you pay for. Not knocking Skar. I've owned 4 15" EVLs and 2 ZVX 18"s (or whichever was their "top of the line") For the price it's a banger (see what I did there?). I'll still take the Nightshade even though it's 3x the price. Skars customer service BLOWS.

    • @bobbybeattie4738
      @bobbybeattie4738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@drrckhamiltonvery well said in that comment about assuming i mean im guilty of it myself. To me its always twords anyone born before the 90s. Most people feel this way. More so with people my age and older im 35 but we got to see a crazy change from no cell phones and desk top comps and actually played outside intill you couldnt see. But for people older i always go in with a clean slate no matter age sex or race. From the moment people meet you can usually tell how a peoson is within the first few min. But im always nice and polite to everyone and it stays that way intill you give me a reason not to be. I dlmyself have been through so much and you never know what someone esle is or has experienced.

  • @Supercharged1976
    @Supercharged1976 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Oh man! Sundown has declared you excommunicato and they'll be coming for you! *Parker* I'll smoke them.......I'll smoke them all. LOL!

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hahaha sundown are good people and make good subs. Just better options if you on a budget

    • @JAM-ur8tj
      @JAM-ur8tj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Excomunicado oh my God that's gold!!! You aren't lying though, if you criticize their product in any way they come out like a hornets nest. They have eyes 👀 everywhere so beware 😂😂😂😂

    • @BeatsByThePound
      @BeatsByThePound 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JAM-ur8tjpoor MBE

  • @chrispuckett1347
    @chrispuckett1347 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You pay a little more for the sundown for a reason like if you blew the sub you can call them up and get a replacement recone or get the sub replaced if it's a defective sub definitely not going to get that with the Amazon sub

    • @Chuck_Sanders
      @Chuck_Sanders 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you're cooking coils, that is on you, and that's user error. Nobody will warranty that issue.

    • @chrisviera2660
      @chrisviera2660 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amazon offers protection plans for like 10-12 bucks for 2 years if you blow it you get your money back 🤷

  • @masonbukovich659
    @masonbukovich659 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    A lot of sundown fans are going to be upset. Excellent video!!

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Haha I tend to do that lol

    • @kjsmolik
      @kjsmolik 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Not really. It's thier lowest budget sub and he ran it at 300 watts more than rated so was it really a fair comparison? Sure sundown under rates most of thier subs. The e series isn't one of them.

    • @hardwork454
      @hardwork454 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@kjsmolikIt’s very fair. He’s going for price point and value. If you can get a sub for less that can take more abuse and play lower why wouldn’t you?

    • @Drgluee
      @Drgluee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hardwork454 Fair would be comparing it to the Sundown SA Classic 15 750RMS.. Comparing price point doesn't really make sense when you really think about it, rated power always should be considered.. In fact, it might have made the generic Amazon sub look even better if it could have kept up or even beat the SA series.

    • @hardwork454
      @hardwork454 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Drgluee So comparing it to a sub that cost twice as much is fair? This is for value for the buck. Not lab testing. It’s basically saying if you have this much money, which one fits what you need best. Not comparing tiers and lines of sub to each other.

  • @sppb32
    @sppb32 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You have to test the new NVX VCW 15, that sub looks fantastic for the price!

  • @bg31282
    @bg31282 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not a sundown fan by no means. Never have ran anything sundown. But you was running it 300 watts over rms rating. Of course it's gonna blow

    • @larrycanady2958
      @larrycanady2958 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But they’re known for underrating their subs.

  • @nighttow8780
    @nighttow8780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm an nvx guy. $130 seems super ultra Mega expensive to me. Although I would love to compare these to a similarly priced VCW series subwoofer

  • @ddtstrc9678
    @ddtstrc9678 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    When sundown first stard out, there prices were extremely cheap you could get a sa 12" for 160. As they become more popular, the prices have also going up

    • @GTILOUD
      @GTILOUD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be fair they've also r&d and made 3 or 4 revisions to their subs

    • @Handlethatineedtouse
      @Handlethatineedtouse 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now there overpriced ☹️

  • @tedpollock3256
    @tedpollock3256 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like to see the underdog win. Thanks Parker!

  • @bdc211
    @bdc211 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Free musky felines go 'round the outside, 'round the outside. 🐈🐈‍⬛
    Guess whos back back??? Back again.. Parkers back back.. bumps again.
    Bassheads back.. yes he's back. Got that amp on the rack.. yes he's back.. parkers back.. yes he's back.. back again..
    Man i got ALLLL these amps, and nobody wants 'em.. just hang 'em on my wall, or maybe ill toss them.. 👀
    A deal with alfred audio man, im wishin i hadnt.. the russians on the phone man, they always harrassin'.. 🇷🇺
    Got 20 taramps and a nightshade a thumpin.. my box is to small, but fuqq its still bumpin' 🤷. ill do a hair trick yeah, maybe she'll want me...👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨
    Ill put my brazilian amp all up in her CAMRYYY!!
    Nah nah. Nah nah nah nah mah
    Everybodies gunna be watchin me!! Should i call King City or MBE!! Place a big phat order with BIG JEFFY!!
    Sounds so much better with dsp!!!
    Adjusting my peak frequency.. gunna tune that sht to low 20..
    Gunna increase me 2 or 3 db. gunna float CATS, in my new chevy!!

  • @smokeyou812
    @smokeyou812 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If i don't see any videos for awhile I'll just 🙏 it's because you're in hiding and not because the infamous Sundown hitmen got to ya at Dusk when they're most active. 😂 You found they're nemesis that is not to be spoken of.

  • @sliderburgers6024
    @sliderburgers6024 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    sometimes those cheaper subs can take alot of power and be very hard to blow, but the sundown's can sometimes be junk or sometimes be really good subs it just depends on witch one you get. I think skar have the best budget subs. Also great video

    • @kamilrybicki8490
      @kamilrybicki8490 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I realy like ct sounds there subs are cheap like u can get a 12" 1300w rms sub for only 160-180 usd and so are there amps u can get a 1.5k rms amp for like 180usd. I like amp cause when the voltage drops the power doesnt that much it basically stays the same

    • @sliderburgers6024
      @sliderburgers6024 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you do have a point

  • @danelhouseofel7634
    @danelhouseofel7634 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I am actually really surprised how well the SKAR SVR 12INCH Subwoofer performs. That is a $130-$150 sub that's rated 800-watt rms. And I most definitely give it at least that. It is powered with a 1500-watt rms mono amp.
    I used to buy Rockford Fosgate products. They are still really great and all. For sure, the win goes to SKAR if you're looking at bang for the buck in my book!!

    • @gelatoconnoisseur5389
      @gelatoconnoisseur5389 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have two kicker CompC 10s and was thinking about swapping them out for the SVR 10s. Is the SVR line any good?

    • @danelhouseofel7634
      @danelhouseofel7634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @gelatoconnoisseur5389 I believe that they are great for the value. But keeping in mind what Parker does is something the average bass head doesn't do. This means overpowering the subs for the views.
      If you keep the power level within its recommended specs, then perfect 👌 👍 even for a 10 inch. I have mine in a 2008 acura mdx.

    • @gelatoconnoisseur5389
      @gelatoconnoisseur5389 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danelhouseofel7634 the amp I have now is the Rockville Db14 with 1000 rms and 3000w peek. So technically I think I would be under powering them being that the SVR 10s push 800 rms each which would be 1600 in total. Do you think that would be a problem?

    • @danelhouseofel7634
      @danelhouseofel7634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @gelatoconnoisseur5389 👍👍 perfect, let me know how it goes after you've broken it in. I myself was thinking of putting another 12 inch svr, but wanted some trunk space. Lol

  • @fellowyorkshireman2391
    @fellowyorkshireman2391 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think parker needs to start wearing glasses!
    On the ma15 test at 35hrz, the metre reads 142.4, yet he said 140.4?

  • @boominc0420
    @boominc0420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The reason it died is during the 45 and 40hz burp it was bottoming out and damaged the coil .

    • @teeceehonda
      @teeceehonda 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He need to run that back.

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I maxed the WLLDSE out just as bad. Just sayin 🤷

  • @user-pwfus
    @user-pwfus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sun Down audio is not a small company however they are really pricey car audio Stetsom and Taramps is the they comp level to compare to.

  • @chadbrown7648
    @chadbrown7648 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Me setting here with 2 sa12s I’ve been feeding double the rated power for 5 years daily and there still going 😂

  • @pa-mn1go
    @pa-mn1go 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i wonder if the Chinese engineers watch these videos and read the comments on how we never have faith in em lol. i wonder if they get offended.

  • @vincentrusso4332
    @vincentrusso4332 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me,.it's not so much bang for the buck, the loudest for the least watts.

  • @shawndieser9381
    @shawndieser9381 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice, its pretty cool to see a budget sub hanging in there. But if you're gonna feed the sundown 300rms more than rated. Why not feed the budget sub 300rms. Above rated and see how long it lasts.

  • @MadDragon75
    @MadDragon75 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It was bounded happen eventually.
    Just saying hi parker it's been a while.
    I'm glad to see your channel blew up... But not in a bad way.

  • @yeahright528
    @yeahright528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought my e series on amazon so they are technically amazon subs too.

  • @rickross368
    @rickross368 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have an Sundown X 15 version 2 and the box says made in China

  • @fellowyorkshireman2391
    @fellowyorkshireman2391 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ma5 did 142.4at 35hz but you said 140.5!?

  • @hairlyfeyanni3044
    @hairlyfeyanni3044 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    U gotta review the massive audio hippo xl 12 3000watt rms, it’s what I have in my car and for a a single 12 it’s crazy

  • @NamesGolden
    @NamesGolden 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    best reason for me to go with sundown is that they keep drop-in recone kits available. just makes the whole process of "yup, I knew that was stupid" easier.
    after I murdered my sundown ev3's I reconed one and put it in my yukon. still need to fix the other one.
    I'm currently abusing some dayton max-x 12's in a impala. I grabbed them for just under $130 shipped each a while back leveraging a sale and a coupon on parts express.

  • @leegriffin9717
    @leegriffin9717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nice one. I bought my avatar STU-1246 12 because of your review. I love it. I just ordered a smart 5 for it. Currently a jp23v2 and its not enough for that sub. Thanks for the videos.

    • @ParkerTheBasshead
      @ParkerTheBasshead  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🔊🔊

    • @brockmarquis8511
      @brockmarquis8511 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I got the stu 1546 for a similar reason and am running mine on a jp23 1.5 and it is giving it all the power it wants? Sub calls for a 3.53 box and I am running 3.85 so that could have something to do with it idk.

    • @donaldwilcoxjr.5212
      @donaldwilcoxjr.5212 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah sounds like somethings off ...my jp23v1.5 has more power than my American bass xr 12 even wants try and handle .......I don't think you need more power or a larger amp ...may be a electrical issue ....but to each his own if you want a larger amp ....I say go for it but just make sure you have the electrical upgrades to make it work ....or you probably won't see any gains in power out put

    • @keithmiles3045
      @keithmiles3045 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      how many cuft is your box? i was wanting to run a single zv6 or try get two avatars cause they would take less space each.the single zv6 box will take most my trunk lol

    • @brockmarquis8511
      @brockmarquis8511 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@keithmiles3045 my box is a little over sized at 3.85

  • @HashDogg06
    @HashDogg06 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Parker. You really should roll into the burp much slower, this will allow a more accurate score plus avoid over excursion &/or bottoming out so aggressively, hence the more accurate score. Another thing to take into account is that if you get too much distortion or bottom the sub out when using those SPL Labs meters they will usually read inaccurate & you will find that the measured HZ is wrong which is an easy way to see if the meter measured correctly.

  • @LatvianVideo
    @LatvianVideo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To verify the TS claims of the subwoofers, you could purchase a DATS, would be fun to see how far the subwoofers are from reality

  • @bailey2517
    @bailey2517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We're arguing about Sundown's WEAKEST SUB 😂

    • @dynamicsvho
      @dynamicsvho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Their cheapest is the LCS not E lol

    • @bailey2517
      @bailey2517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dynamicsvho eeh it's still pretty low end but you're right. Either way, it's still a better sub and more efficient so the fact that it blew at 800wrms isn't even relevant.

    • @dynamicsvho
      @dynamicsvho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @bailey2517 seems the cheaper sub was appropriately rated rms of 800. I have ran an E 12 before on 900 watts and it never let go. Of course music and torture testing is different. lol

  • @macten7536
    @macten7536 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i enjoy how he says the amazon one is chinese as if the sundown isnt also from a china build house. fun fact most subs sundown/skar come from the same Chinese build house do your homework. your paying for a name

    • @Chuck_Sanders
      @Chuck_Sanders 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But Skar and Sundown, are not from the same build house. All Chinese though

  • @jero1820
    @jero1820 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you want power and abuse. Get flat wound aluminum wound voice coils. PSI subs are way better than SunDown will ever be ( unless you get the nightshade Neo mag. )

  • @ResilientSounds276
    @ResilientSounds276 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Parkerthebasshead When you get a chance try a Resilient sounds platinum 15 or 12 I think you would really like it..

    • @Bowtieboy7488
      @Bowtieboy7488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or a gold 15 lol

  • @jameslynn7877
    @jameslynn7877 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The e series is bottom of the line Budget from sundown but i get the reasoning for the comparison cause its both similar price points but being a advid sundown person ill tell you if you don't have them in good enclosure they won't last long at all cause the design in their efficiency is also a flaw in some cases in example they hate being free aired and hate being in out of spec boxes or the won't get the right cooling Dave Leib the builder at sundown would know more than me about it but generally speaking if your aren't using a 100% perfect application for them youre most likely to see failure

  • @K-Effect
    @K-Effect 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:13 Amazon sub did a 142.4

  • @johnd5542
    @johnd5542 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im running a Smart 8 on 2 XV3 12s and they are taking a fn beating.

  • @mikesilverthorn911
    @mikesilverthorn911 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Parker. Ive been wanting to see a video comparison that nobody else seems to have done. Would you consider doing a comparison between two 12's in a sealed box on 1000 watts vrs one 12 in a ported box on 500 watts rms? Same subs for both enclosures. Im curious as to how much of a difference there will be in output. The ported is more efficient but the sealed has twice the cone area and power. I cant find anyone thats done a video like that.

  • @geraldmartinez6867
    @geraldmartinez6867 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hell ya nice vid bro

  • @BenaresDarkness
    @BenaresDarkness 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm a sundown guy and I'm not triggered or anything because it took almost double power free air for 3 minutes. Put 1100 to the Amazon sub and see if it lasts as long or longer.

  • @georgebussey3463
    @georgebussey3463 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why didn’t you go 300 plus watts on the Amazon sub like you did the sundown sub?

  • @rjfromatl8071
    @rjfromatl8071 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2500 RMS (1250 per channel amp), which of these three that you e tested is my best option?
    1. $299.00 - Heavy Hitters 15inch sub 2500 Max (1250 RMS) 300oz motor weight
    2. $254.00 - Skar Audio EVL-15 D4 15" 2500 Watt Max (1250 RMS) 166oz motor weight
    3. $359.00 - Skar Audio VXF-15 D2 15" 3000 Watt Max (1500 RMS) 300oz motor weight

  • @forgotten1234
    @forgotten1234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yo Parker big fan I have JL Audio JX 1000.1D. I had this little guy with 1300 RMS 2609 orion old school, it blew it. Then 2X AMERICAN BASS 15s blew those any way to see the limit of this Amp. Not a JL Audio fan but when I got this amp it was affordable. Had the amp for Six years now doing a new set up. 2008 Impala LT.

  • @95Sn95
    @95Sn95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the E was around the price of the Wlldse I'd say get either both good but $220 for that cheap ass sub that's crazy, in the $200 area you get almost every brand the typical 3" coil ,200oz motored cast frame banger and subs that handle 1200 to 1500wrms, not 500 to 800wrms 2.5" coiled little motored steel framed entry level subs. You know how much Jacob has invested in that thing? Around $20 to $30...your buying that logo on the dust cap, He's so overcharging for a cheap entry level sub, at $220 hes poking it right to people and laughing all the way to the bank saying I didn't think I could charge that much...I was wrong lol. Why Wlldse replaced the HCY with this one is beyond me. The HCY is a banger budget sub and it takes a ton of abuse, I paid $122 for one $142 for the other. The only complaint about the HCY 13 is the FS was high, DATS v3 tested 43htz out of the box and 38htz broke in, they were super punchy great for metal kick drum pounded my chest but didn't hit low lows with much authority I listen to everything so I epoxied a ring of large plumbing solder around the original dust cap 70G If I remember right and installed a new 7" cap and now the FS is 30htz and they hit lower a lot better. It must be an availability issue or materials went up significantly for them to replace the HCY with a lower wattage sub. So much for killer value....

  • @mattsnider5904
    @mattsnider5904 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since you are back to testing in the Sequoia; I wouldn't mind seeing some db tests of subs you tested in your truck. If you still have some those subs laying around. Cabin gain test for different vehicles basically. Good video to see what those subs can handle

  • @RobLester-o5h
    @RobLester-o5h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the hcy12 by wllsed ,which has all but disappeared from Amazon. I'm guessing because of sundown patents? But what everyone seems to forget is sundown is a rip-off if Hollywood sound labs. The basket is the dragon claw frame from Hollywood. The brand is tied up in litigation. Mean time their technology gets robbed. Hence the dragon claw frame used on sundown u series. Chpw Hollywood digital Germany will reveal this just by looking at their frames...but the patents and original Hollywood excursion subwoofers that used that dragon claw frame was in 2003. 20 years ahead of it's time. Hollywood. Old school trivia you can research on and see fir yourself .

  • @jazarenoteejay9938
    @jazarenoteejay9938 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Parker. can you do SLAPZ AUDIO OBLIVION 15 Please. You mention you love budget subs thats one budget sub. thank yoy and more power

  • @brianhardemon561
    @brianhardemon561 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cheap sub was holding it's on. Love the video my guy.

  • @jimmyv1753
    @jimmyv1753 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking to drop some subs in my car. I’ve looked through about 10,000 different packages and options. Some box speakers and amp some separate setups. Anyone with any suggestions I would appreciate it

  • @julianf.1559
    @julianf.1559 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, im new here.
    I would wish a video of listing your top 3 subs under 200$, under 300$ and under 400$.
    Would that be possible? I would appreciate it bro 😊

  • @mikerrailey
    @mikerrailey 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you leave a link to 1/0 Amp inputs to fit my oversized wire in my. New Taramps smart bass 3, which is only regular 1/0. Please just order some from Down4Sound and both the party that goes into the Amp is overside also so it will not fit since both size are for over sized wire

  • @afriendlyguy2004
    @afriendlyguy2004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    150K by the end of the year! Image Dynamics sub review? I would really appreciate it. Thank you so much for punishing these subs for us!

  • @theonewhowas7709
    @theonewhowas7709 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have 2 - 1500watt - 12".. XV2's just sitting in my closet still in the plastic and boxes.... wish i could sell them but whatever they're there if i need them

  • @dandangounknown5718
    @dandangounknown5718 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You played different frequencies for the subs on free air. Went lower on the cheap Amazon sub buddy. Parker has been bought and payed. About 2 years ago. Time to find a new honest person Parker has been compromised.

  • @theloon218
    @theloon218 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How you all sub / Amp reviewers drop a video today hence big d ,hifi vector , stre MOJO , Parker, budget j etc Com on what am I missing

  • @lowridr2
    @lowridr2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    remove the logos from the dust cap and you wont tell the difference lol that sub is probably made by the same build house sundown is to many resemblance the cheap sub is actually what your more higher brand would cost if it wasn't for all the marketing

  • @smp3745
    @smp3745 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 4 evls in my truck and bought the 3500 max wlldse sub at 8k watts ill smoke the skars befor that thang even cares. Once they all blow ill be sticking with them.

  • @ProDigit80
    @ProDigit80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For subs, cheaper is better. You're not expecting to get studio quality sound out of a sub driver. Low frequencies sound the same.

  • @honda-s2k
    @honda-s2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    car audio from the 90s..... is better than all that cheap china junk.

    • @91CavGT5
      @91CavGT5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To an extent, yes. Most amps from that time period still work great as seen in several amp dyno tests that Big D does on his TH-cam channel. HOWEVER, power output of amps from that time frame are typically lower than amps today, plus amps today are cheaper per watt. Subwoofers from the 90’s are not as good as subwoofers from today. The older subs have lower power handling, less X max, lower Bl, and in general do not get as loud and can’t handle as much power. Audio equipment designed in the US is typically better than the audio equipment designed in China, regardless of where each was built.

    • @troydennis96
      @troydennis96 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@91CavGT5it’s mostly just very different design philosophies. As you mentioned, power was very difficult to generate at the time making it so that subwoofers should be more sensitive which meant lower power handling parts with lower xmax and lower MMS. It’s all about knowing your use case.

    • @honda-s2k
      @honda-s2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@91CavGT5 the average person can't handle 1200 watts of real power on their stock setups. most people just stick a 1200 rms sub and 2400 watt amp in there car, van or trucks and never upgrade the door speakers and run them on the stock alt and stock battery. spl guys always upgrade everything and most the amps for the 90s are meant for daily driver not spl. if your going for sq and daily driver, a 1000 watt amp and a 600 rms sub in a tuned box....not prefab junk are just fine. we all have are own preferences to home and car audio. my sansui sf-2 speakers inside my house are soooo clean and crisp compared to the polk audio tower and bookshelf speakers i had last year. audio made in the usa, germany, japan and korea are 10x better than any of that china junk.

  • @ROCKNROLLMODS
    @ROCKNROLLMODS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also I apologize for commenting multiple times but for some reason TH-cam just started playing this video again.
    It would be really nice if you performed the test before you do the smoke tricks and stuff?

  • @ROCKNROLLMODS
    @ROCKNROLLMODS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll do the cast basket whenever possible. I feel, as a broke arse, sundown is a horrible bang 4 buck. If i was rich, sure, I'd buy the top of the line premium brand. But most importantly, 2 of these analzon subs will cost a little more than the sundowner but they will pound a whole lot harder

  • @basslifexxl2391
    @basslifexxl2391 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What in the hell is up with bros eyes tho?! Im sayin FR FR? Is something wrong with his eye or eyes? Not makin fun but DIZAMN!!!

  • @myfavoritecolorisclear
    @myfavoritecolorisclear 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What good is it to take more power for less output? But if that isthe budget then its a good buy

  • @chadgardee1496
    @chadgardee1496 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bet this made sundown fans mad but the sundown will shine like Parker said with lower power and almost same output so someone who done have a big alternator two sundown E’s would be more efficient but I’m surprised they bottom out

  • @cbronsonda13th37
    @cbronsonda13th37 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Parker the BaSE HEAD for president 🇺🇸 because Base Rules the world 🌎

  • @donjaun540
    @donjaun540 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Amazon guy was bigger and stiffer where it needed to be. Lol 🤪🌶️😂🤣😂😭

  • @kylelangworthy9641
    @kylelangworthy9641 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you do a test on the R series? Bottom of the line harmony 15. I know you did a test on the 212. Can you do a single 15?

  • @Morteexx
    @Morteexx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only sundown i have owned is SA15,U15, X15 , X18, Z18 and they have take so much abuse.
    I would not go the cheap subs on sundown, then its better to find a other brand and tryout.
    Now im thinking on a X10, with aeroport 30hz boxtuning for daily. 40-50hz when SPL testing it.
    Would be fun to see.
    Now i run 1x15 Gas max s1 d2, doing 144.55db in a stock car w/sunroof, stock battery on 1000-1500w.

    • @Luminous.Dynamics
      @Luminous.Dynamics 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What amp are you using on that other set up, the 1000-1500?

  • @donaldluallen1152
    @donaldluallen1152 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Send me some of the subs that are just collecting dust that you never use I'll take them and put one or two in my car just from something to listen to

  • @ronb6333
    @ronb6333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you think the sundown subwoofer 15 inch is better than a kicker VX 15

  • @ianrace4066
    @ianrace4066 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've seen that sub go over 5 minutes at 1000 watts so idk what happened andcim not a sundown user.

  • @skateboardkid420
    @skateboardkid420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Redo the NVC VCW sub now that you have proper power, last tiem you tyested it you only had 3k and the sub was wired to 2 ohms

  • @Omar-y9m7r
    @Omar-y9m7r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just saying...sundown is a distributor, the subs come from the same place

  • @tweeter05ify
    @tweeter05ify 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 1202 u can see 1400watts i liked yr channel before you were sponsored

  • @johnathonoppel393
    @johnathonoppel393 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my opinion its how it’s designed you can slap whatever name you want but the principle is the same

  • @patricknbrooks11
    @patricknbrooks11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve had super good luck with c and nsv3 series of sundown… that doesn’t say every line is good

  • @firestardmgeneral8822
    @firestardmgeneral8822 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subdown and skar are basically same. Look at them and read the history between them

  • @Jerem0y
    @Jerem0y 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why do you have those monsters sitting on a bench bro? throw those in a vehicle! or sell me one Lmao

  • @jayvog2308
    @jayvog2308 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Chinese ones are coming up "Currently Unavailable".

  • @IifUtcuf
    @IifUtcuf 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    plzzz bro can you give me that deaf bonce woofer pzzzzz that is my dream

  • @firestardmgeneral8822
    @firestardmgeneral8822 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Try the harmony audio subs. Its very underrated and great for price

  • @Opel_Corsa_Subwoofer
    @Opel_Corsa_Subwoofer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone in the comments! What brought you into audio!?!?

  • @jvsyoutube3298
    @jvsyoutube3298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    interesting approach to test cheap amazon subs, more please! :)

  • @Omar-y9m7r
    @Omar-y9m7r 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think the suckers was a treat, it was stating the obvious , I think

  • @wesleywilson4388
    @wesleywilson4388 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So when u buy sundown cheaper stuff u are payinh a premium for the name.

  • @Skarfar90
    @Skarfar90 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Moral of the video: Stick to rated power for extended periods of time

  • @Andrew_kiwi_AF
    @Andrew_kiwi_AF 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Parker you said 140.4 at 35hz but it was 142.4

  • @SailingAnja
    @SailingAnja 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Box is waaaay too small for a 15, just sayin

    • @honda-s2k
      @honda-s2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      amen!!!

    • @nismomike3182
      @nismomike3182 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That Skar box = 3.85 cu ft @ 31 hz
      The Sundown E V.4 15 box recommendation = 3.0 cu ft @ 35 hz. Displacement = 0.15

  • @kickzalonekuz9680
    @kickzalonekuz9680 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice phrase bro...dont work for the brands work for us!!

  • @Krotos1970
    @Krotos1970 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's funny that even this sundown model is made in China as well!