Joey the caps that are known as the "cpu caps" are simply a 1V8 rail. That line goes to every single IC on the board including RAM, CPU, MAX77620, MAX77812, M92T36, MAX17050, Backlight IC, LCD driver, game card PMIC, audio IC etc. Just because that cap is short doesn't mean the board is dead. It could be a number of issues causing that short. Take another look mate. Generally if the CPU is dead the CPU will get immediately hot with just the battery plugged in, even if the battery is virtually dead
Just pinned your comment pal so hopefully it rectified any information for anyone watching going forward ☺️ Thanks for the feedback once again! Out of interest, would you just remove all of the components you’ve named one by one until the short has gone? Or is there individual ways to measure the components you’ve listed before having to remove them?
@@JoeyDoesTech good stuff mate, didn't want to sound like a know it all but there's too many people who are under the impression that it always means a dead cpu and it's not the case. You can try injecting 1v but a lot of the time I just remove components until the short disappears. It could still be the CPU but as I said it's not always the case
@@JoeyDoesTech The two "shorted" caps around the MAX ic (the one South the CPU) are just low impendence, around 20 Ohm. Alsways use resistance Mode to Check back. Only if it's under 10 Ohm you can Tell it's a short. Also the middle cap left of the backsidr Max ic is low (same line as the other 2 caps)
The two "shorted" caps around the MAX ic are just low impendence, around 20 Ohm. Alsways use resistance Mode to Check back. Only if it's under 10 Ohm you can Tell it's a short.
Nice diagnostics skills right there. Only thing I would of done to save lots of time is inject 1V into each main rail around MAX77620 with that IC removed. That would tell you which rail was shorting as well as let the component drawing the current to heat up
One thing I see being overlooked is the Maxx IC. It is a power management BGA chip, which means you may need to get into some basic re-balling. it is actually quite easy.. Ask Phil where he got his latest stencils for solder pastie. Cheers Joey!
Or another possibility is the shop botched it and didn't try putting it back together before shipping it to customer and just told him it was already present.
Appreciate your taking the time to walk through this. Your initial assumption of bad cpu was correct and it is helpful to have it confirmed. Next time those particular caps are shorted, you should be safe to assume bad cpu and move on to something else. Great video!
Unfortunately as soon as I saw the repair shop took 4 months to get back to the customer I knew they messed it up beyond repair and might have been waiting for a board to replace it. You are right Joey as soon as you measure shorts on those two caps the board can be tossed.
That's incorrect mate. The caps that are known as the "cpu caps" are simply a 1V8 rail. That line goes to every single IC on the board including RAM, CPU, MAX77620, MAX77812, M92T36, MAX17050, Backlight IC, LCD driver, game card PMIC, audio IC etc. Just because that cap is short doesn't mean the board is dead. It could be a number of issues causing that short. Most of the misconceptions about the CPU being definitively dead are a myth created by a bunch of phone techs who don't know what they're talking about. I don't want to sound like a d**k but people need to stop spreading this myth.
A damaged USB connector can put a direct voltage straight into the CPU killing it instantly. I am finding recently that the switch lite models seem to have a broader range of potential faults compared to the standard switch. I have had to do more re-balling of power management ICs and fuel gauge chips as well as failed mosfets, back-light chips etc. Quite a rabbit hole with these. Karl
Haha, this is actually mine. I had a hell of a time with the repair shop and was fobbed off multiple times before I managed to get it back. It was completely disassembled and thrown in a plastic takeaway tub. Way beyond my skill to repair
Hi joey, love your videos and thinking of getting into repair myself as a hobby Would you mind sharing where you got your souldering tools and what someone getting started might need to get :)
This is a great question Kye and depends on budget! I got everything myself from Amazon. I’ll try and include a “Starters Guide” in my descriptions going forward!
whoever worked on that before you definitely had no idea wtf they were doing. as much of an amateur as i am at repairs, i for one would still make sure i installed all the screws and definitely wouldn't forget the fans and heat shield, the original owner hopefully got their money back fromt he clear scammers who had the device and "repaired" it
I bought an iFixit pro tech tool kit and awaiting for it to arrive and also bought yesterday a multimeter+soldering iron kit (with lots of other goodies!) and that just arrived today, I can't wait to be able to begin this journey that will be console repairing! 🥳
After watching some YT Shorts from TronicsFix i'm starting to think that either these repair shops ain't even trying to repair stuff or they just don't know how to actually do this :P But in the end we still can celebrate Your little success! At least we can assume what is the problem here :D
Awesome repair, always entertaining and informative. Btw How would one go about learning this. I'm okay at soldering but micro soldering and diagnosing boards is a whole other game. Would love to know how you got to the point where you can comfortably diagnose and repair a board.
i have all these same problems on the board im currently trying to fix, literallly didi every step you had done (before watching your video as it was driving me insane and came to youtube to see if i was missing somthing obvious) but more to my point did you ever do a follow up on this or was it just dead cpu and used as a donor board or did you find another issue/correct isssue before i put this away as a donor becuase ive been testing this bi tch board for 4 days now haha
Would be really interesting if you could take a similar ARM Cortex CPU from an old Tablet or Notebook. Pop it on Switch board and see what happens. Be the 1st to try it Joey! ;)))
The repair shop might have ruined that switch to be honest, a short might have killed the cpu, thats what happens lots of times in switches, if it has a bad charging port or shorted port sometimes high voltage goes to the cpu and kills it, it could have died before going to the repair shop but they could have also broken it in that repair shop
That repair shop sitting their ass on the Lite for 4 months, just to do a mediocre job at swapping the charging port and not even put any screws back in is disgraceful. If you cannot fix it, then just admit to that. Not every repair is doable. Just charge a fee for the attempt and return the Switch fully assembled. That's the bare minimum. At least it gave all of us, and you, a good learning experience.
Great try to fix Joey. We all learned some very wise thing from you. Next christmas present for you will be a stencil for the switch cpu so you can even fix more. 😁
Shame that the CPU is dead. But I'm sure you'll be able to get another quite easily now. I think the next step Joey is getting a stencil and going for the reball! Great video as always! One favour though please make a pinned comment each video as sadly I glanced down at my phone and seen the outcome before I watched the video 😅😅😅
I hope you didn't lose to much money on the switch. Maybe you can send this one to the coder muhaha maybe he knows some crazy repair. Muhaha you talk about him 1 min after I commented. Hé's the wildest repairman. Also the thermal paste man but I feel the coder is the specialist for this kind of stuff.
"technician" heheheh, no "technician" applied any heat. Uneducated butcher did, but not a 'technician'. I cannot understand how some of those "repair shops" even operate for so long, or how they can look people in the eyes when they come to get their stuff.
I don't understand how some "repair" shops take in jobs that they have no experience with and try fixing it. This makes us repair shops look bad. You're pretty much "trying" to fix something to learn how to do it at the customer's expense. What if you damage something, are you gonna pay for it or is the customer stuck with it? SMH
That repair shop need to employ cod3r to do some training for the repairs person it was a dang disgrace, & more likely that they caused the chip to blow with the shoddy repair.
Joey the caps that are known as the "cpu caps" are simply a 1V8 rail. That line goes to every single IC on the board including RAM, CPU, MAX77620, MAX77812, M92T36, MAX17050, Backlight IC, LCD driver, game card PMIC, audio IC etc. Just because that cap is short doesn't mean the board is dead. It could be a number of issues causing that short. Take another look mate. Generally if the CPU is dead the CPU will get immediately hot with just the battery plugged in, even if the battery is virtually dead
Just pinned your comment pal so hopefully it rectified any information for anyone watching going forward ☺️ Thanks for the feedback once again!
Out of interest, would you just remove all of the components you’ve named one by one until the short has gone? Or is there individual ways to measure the components you’ve listed before having to remove them?
@@JoeyDoesTech good stuff mate, didn't want to sound like a know it all but there's too many people who are under the impression that it always means a dead cpu and it's not the case.
You can try injecting 1v but a lot of the time I just remove components until the short disappears. It could still be the CPU but as I said it's not always the case
@@JoeyDoesTech The two "shorted" caps around the MAX ic (the one South the CPU) are just low impendence, around 20 Ohm.
Alsways use resistance Mode to Check back.
Only if it's under 10 Ohm you can Tell it's a short.
Also the middle cap left of the backsidr Max ic is low (same line as the other 2 caps)
The two "shorted" caps around the MAX ic are just low impendence, around 20 Ohm.
Alsways use resistance Mode to Check back.
Only if it's under 10 Ohm you can Tell it's a short.
Nice diagnostics skills right there. Only thing I would of done to save lots of time is inject 1V into each main rail around MAX77620 with that IC removed. That would tell you which rail was shorting as well as let the component drawing the current to heat up
Thankyou pal, means a lot :) still very far off where I would like to be! I think I’ll do a follow up video as a few people have given some tips :)
One thing I see being overlooked is the Maxx IC. It is a power management BGA chip, which means you may need to get into some basic re-balling. it is actually quite easy.. Ask Phil where he got his latest stencils for solder pastie. Cheers Joey!
I'm guessing the shop knew the cpu is dead? Hence why the switch look as mangled as it is. I really like today's video. Very informative
Thankyou :)
Or another possibility is the shop botched it and didn't try putting it back together before shipping it to customer and just told him it was already present.
Appreciate your taking the time to walk through this. Your initial assumption of bad cpu was correct and it is helpful to have it confirmed. Next time those particular caps are shorted, you should be safe to assume bad cpu and move on to something else. Great video!
Unfortunately as soon as I saw the repair shop took 4 months to get back to the customer I knew they messed it up beyond repair and might have been waiting for a board to replace it. You are right Joey as soon as you measure shorts on those two caps the board can be tossed.
Thanks for the tip! :)
That's incorrect mate. The caps that are known as the "cpu caps" are simply a 1V8 rail. That line goes to every single IC on the board including RAM, CPU, MAX77620, MAX77812, M92T36, MAX17050, Backlight IC, LCD driver, game card PMIC, audio IC etc. Just because that cap is short doesn't mean the board is dead. It could be a number of issues causing that short. Most of the misconceptions about the CPU being definitively dead are a myth created by a bunch of phone techs who don't know what they're talking about. I don't want to sound like a d**k but people need to stop spreading this myth.
A damaged USB connector can put a direct voltage straight into the CPU killing it instantly. I am finding recently that the switch lite models seem to have a broader range of potential faults compared to the standard switch. I have had to do more re-balling of power management ICs and fuel gauge chips as well as failed mosfets, back-light chips etc. Quite a rabbit hole with these. Karl
Ah interesting Karl!
for future reference, its easier to remove the coils and measure for shorts before and after the coils, then removing the chip
Haha, this is actually mine. I had a hell of a time with the repair shop and was fobbed off multiple times before I managed to get it back. It was completely disassembled and thrown in a plastic takeaway tub. Way beyond my skill to repair
how would u know the cpu is dead when u havent soldered it back on,
but i guess it would be hard without a stencil
Even if the mobo might be dead you might have a working screen for any other switch lite you may need! Make sure to check that as well!
Agreed! I will :)
Aren’t those so called caps around the max chip actually inductors hence low impedance.
Hi joey, love your videos and thinking of getting into repair myself as a hobby
Would you mind sharing where you got your souldering tools and what someone getting started might need to get :)
Yeah that would be great !
This is a great question Kye and depends on budget! I got everything myself from Amazon. I’ll try and include a “Starters Guide” in my descriptions going forward!
@@JoeyDoesTech thank you for your reply, it’s your channel that’s inspired me to try and get into repair myself :)
The repair from the shop was pretty bad.. but it was really interesting to see the underneath of the CPU.
whoever worked on that before you definitely had no idea wtf they were doing. as much of an amateur as i am at repairs, i for one would still make sure i installed all the screws and definitely wouldn't forget the fans and heat shield, the original owner hopefully got their money back fromt he clear scammers who had the device and "repaired" it
Wouldn’t surprise me if the shop in question has bad reviews looking at the state of that port
Again, thank you so much Joey for upload this kind of videos, really enjoyable
More than welcome! Glad you enjoyed the diagnostic side!
I bought an iFixit pro tech tool kit and awaiting for it to arrive and also bought yesterday a multimeter+soldering iron kit (with lots of other goodies!) and that just arrived today, I can't wait to be able to begin this journey that will be console repairing! 🥳
Yes! I wish you all the best and hopefully I can help :)
The cpu is married to the motherboard? There is any posibilities to put another cpu from a donor board?
After watching some YT Shorts from TronicsFix i'm starting to think that either these repair shops ain't even trying to repair stuff or they just don't know how to actually do this :P
But in the end we still can celebrate Your little success! At least we can assume what is the problem here :D
Awesome repair, always entertaining and informative.
Btw How would one go about learning this. I'm okay at soldering but micro soldering and diagnosing boards is a whole other game. Would love to know how you got to the point where you can comfortably diagnose and repair a board.
More than welcome and Thankyou! I honestly just watched lots of TH-cam and bought DS lites to start from eBay as they’re cheap :)
its possible they deliberately killed the board or they swaped it for a known bad board and gave it back to the customer
Never remove parts based on a guess. Always inject voltage on the shorted net and feel for heat.
Great video as always joey
Thanks bud
Are CPU's bound to the board ? It wouldn't work resoldering the cpu from some other board ?
That repair shop did a disgraceful job and shouldn't be in business.
i have all these same problems on the board im currently trying to fix, literallly didi every step you had done (before watching your video as it was driving me insane and came to youtube to see if i was missing somthing obvious) but more to my point did you ever do a follow up on this or was it just dead cpu and used as a donor board or did you find another issue/correct isssue before i put this away as a donor becuase ive been testing this bi tch board for 4 days now haha
Would be really interesting if you could take a similar ARM Cortex CPU from an old Tablet or Notebook.
Pop it on Switch board and see what happens.
Be the 1st to try it Joey! ;)))
A. Repair. Shop. Had. This. For 4. Months
The repair shop might have ruined that switch to be honest, a short might have killed the cpu, thats what happens lots of times in switches, if it has a bad charging port or shorted port sometimes high voltage goes to the cpu and kills it, it could have died before going to the repair shop but they could have also broken it in that repair shop
Agreed!
It's good to try things ...you confirm the issue is with cpu. Keep the good work
Never give up on your dreams. I belive that joey can make 1 million subscribers in no time. Love in your channel never give up.
I really hope so one day too! :)
That repair shop sitting their ass on the Lite for 4 months, just to do a mediocre job at swapping the charging port and not even put any screws back in is disgraceful. If you cannot fix it, then just admit to that. Not every repair is doable. Just charge a fee for the attempt and return the Switch fully assembled. That's the bare minimum.
At least it gave all of us, and you, a good learning experience.
Communication is at least expected!
What if you get a re-balled CPU?
Can you give it a try?
Nice job by the way...
You would also need the eMMC chip to match the CPU as they are married together.
Great try to fix Joey. We all learned some very wise thing from you. Next christmas present for you will be a stencil for the switch cpu so you can even fix more. 😁
Hahaha yes I need to get one for sure!
ouch and better luck next time on your next repair
Thanks for another great video. I hope you and your family are doing well.
Thanks Gary! Same to you bud :)
Shame that the CPU is dead. But I'm sure you'll be able to get another quite easily now. I think the next step Joey is getting a stencil and going for the reball! Great video as always! One favour though please make a pinned comment each video as sadly I glanced down at my phone and seen the outcome before I watched the video 😅😅😅
I think having a stencil is well overdue! I’ll do some shopping :)
I hope you didn't lose to much money on the switch. Maybe you can send this one to the coder muhaha maybe he knows some crazy repair.
Muhaha you talk about him 1 min after I commented. Hé's the wildest repairman. Also the thermal paste man but I feel the coder is the specialist for this kind of stuff.
where u learn to do this? on youtube?
Yes all in TH-cam :)
"technician" heheheh, no "technician" applied any heat. Uneducated butcher did, but not a 'technician'. I cannot understand how some of those "repair shops" even operate for so long, or how they can look people in the eyes when they come to get their stuff.
I think it should not call its self a repair shop as from the repair they did looked like a blind cobbler did it lol
What a total con! A perfect example of the most dodgy of cowboys! Disgraceful. I hope they people reported the repair shop to the authorities.
They always say the repair shop did it
Maybe it was the customer! 😉
I don't understand how some "repair" shops take in jobs that they have no experience with and try fixing it. This makes us repair shops look bad. You're pretty much "trying" to fix something to learn how to do it at the customer's expense. What if you damage something, are you gonna pay for it or is the customer stuck with it? SMH
I know! Basic communication is a must :)
That repair shop need to employ cod3r to do some training for the repairs person it was a dang disgrace, & more likely that they caused the chip to blow with the shoddy repair.
I do love the video, but can you talk a little faster🤣
Nice job mate, shame its fubar but you know I miss the old fluxation for the nation saying 👍
Hahaha exactly!
A 10 year old can fix this, why can't the repair shop fix it tho? 🤔🤔😭😭💀💀
No technician tried to fix that console but a butcher.
I am giving some graphics cards a crack this week wish me luck
Good luck! How’d it go? :)
@@JoeyDoesTech it went pretty well one of the cards ended up working fine (a gtx 960) however the other 2 wouldn’t post or almost caused a fire
Please tell me good youtube videos to learn like you master
😂😂 Literally just watch lots of TH-cam!
@@JoeyDoesTech exactly, i need videos in yt what do I search? Just say how to fix laptop what
love
send to thecod3r!