Everyone is talking shit in these comments but I doubt any of them have video of them hand cutting a bevel because it’s hard. This is a really good freehand bevel.
Exactly!! My point was just that it can be done by hand without all the high dollar equipment!!! Not saying it was perfect but useable for the situation.
@@haugndog It saves grinding time so what's not to like? I'm no pipeliner (due to bad back and shoulder) but I cut many tons of pipe coupons for the welding school where I ran the toolroom and your freehand cuts are excellent!
Not bad at all, it's not all that easy. Guys that say its shitty or not any good, are either the greatest torch hands alive. Or more likely have never touched a torch before
Blades 22 I appreciate that Blades! I will go a few years in between fitting up, which was the case here! It had probably been 3-4 years. The point is you don’t have to own all the high dollar bevelers to cut a pipe bevel.
When I started this trade in the 70's My boss gave us a ball peen, a file and a cutting torch. Most people today lost this skill. Other than my eyes are older I can still cut, just a few more beaver teeth.
I mean I've only started cutting with the oxy acetylene torch but I've already gotten decent enough to bevel. Maybe not professional but I'd say pretty good but I've never tried beveling a pipe. Loved to try.
I guess this is an old school torch hand style, as a Pipefitter I would just cut it with a bandsaw, or cutting disk, and then bevel it with a grinder. He is still going to have to clean it up with a grinder anyway to prep it to fit up and weld it out.
Nice work, especially with the start and stop .....!!!! I’ve been welding and tinkering since 16 y/o in 1970 Screw all the internet expert assholes..., Well done
I’m a 4th year apprentice plumber. I had to cut 2 6” carbon steel with acetylene torch. I cut the beveled freehand and cleaned it up with a grinder. Cutting the bevel reduced the time needed to grind a clean bevel, but this is clean! I’ll have to try this next time!
Was beveling 18" fixed position today about 1 ft off the ground. Looked about that good maybe a little worse. Helps to have your support hand right near the torch head. Good shit tho, beveling pipe in any position aint no spring breeze
shaufik hidayat you're welcome. I may not be perfect at it, but the point is that you can do it with a cutting torch. Sometimes I go years in between fitting pipe so the little I do doesn't warrant the investment of a beveling tool. Rigid recently came out with a cutter head that clamps on the end of the pipe and rotates around the pipe. It will do from 4" up and I think the cost may be around $2k.
I'll be better if you put the torch tip straight on the line and cut forward at the same angle as if you were cutting with a bevel machine you'll have a cleaner and straight cut . Nice job man
yea 33.5 degree bevel? looks like a 20°-50° depending on what quarter ur lookin at..most likely refer pipe or hydronics system down hill 6010 no inspection on fit up root or final.. get the spray paint close! and ur lookin for 37.5° bevel ther bub. lu 598 pasco wa welder
I don't normally do that. I did a 4" fire man under a BART pad that we had to hydro with very little coverage and we restrained and strapped it down and it still snaked all over the place at 150psl.
Nikolaos Pizanias i typically only deal sch 40. It is more about not having to invest in bevel cutting tooling. Especially when you only have a hand full of cuts to do. Now there are cool metal cutting saws so you get a square cut, and beveling tool cutters that are reasonably priced. If I were doing heavy production I would invest in the tooling.
The old Bosch Carborundum chop saws that I used years ago to fit pipe couldn't cut a square cut to save your life! They where always out a few degrees and it would take 20 plus minutes to grind an end up square, confirm the overall length, grind your bevel, landing and deburr and tack on the fitting. The method in this video, I was able to do the same joint in 10 minutes with the fitting tacked on It. I have had a lot of plumbers I worked with say you can't flame cut a bevel on a pipe, well here is the proof. We also had a fab shop with a 24" 480v production chop saw that would cut a better end, but in the shop we used a large high CFM air bevel'er that used an internal mandrel to position the tool and pipe and it would do the facing, beveling and de-burring in one process. we would normally cut the pipe about 3/8 long to allow for this process. Again this is not an inexpensive option out in the field.
Steve, that would be a good Visio and it brings back a memory of one I did Back in the day and wish I had a video of it. It was on a school project rebuild caused from the 89’ Loma Prieta earthquake out here in California. I had a underground tie in of a 6” HDPE new gas system to an existing steel gas system that I was nervous about. The transition fitting on the HDPE poly pipe was fused on already and the existing steel, natural gas system had a weld cap on it that had to be cut off to drop the poly down and make the connection. Had my welder onsite with me and ran the scenarios by him, I was concerned I would cut it to short! His comment was, no problem, “cut a pup and drop that in!” Which helped ease the anxiety I already had about cutting the cap off a live natural gas system! I did my layout, drilled a hole in the cap and tested my purge to ensure it was safe, made the cut and tapped my landings on, cleaned it up with my peanut grinder and swung the new system into place and, it was one of my proudest moments of my then young career, it fit! No pup piece needed! Welder did his magic and we put it back into service. I hauled that old 6” weld cap around for a few decades! I wish I still had it, I’d make a piece of art out of it and pass it down to my kids. God bless and be safe out there.
Luke P. My point is to show how simple it can be to "flame cut a bevel" without all the expensive tools. If all I did was fit pipe, it would make sense, but for a few days here and there on a project, through out a year, I do just fine the old school way.
That's right. I always wanted to give it a try with my Plasma, but that is not how I learned! Not sure I could replicate the bevel angle and keep my hand away from the heat!
we have machine that can creep on pipe and do 360 degree cutting itself .please visit www.sunbow-cut-weld.com/article.asp?id=707 for ThinkPipe profile cutting machine.
Sebastian Rocha obviously you didn’t read my other comments and the point I was making. I have used beveling machines, they are great, just not always available. What do you do if your bevel tool breaks down? Go home?
+ralphgomez78 Ralph, I'm not sure what a metabo is, maybe you can explain.I can get a really clean bevel on larger pipe. Especially if I get a chance to stay out in the field and get a few warm up cuts in. Most of my stuff is sch 40 medium pressure gas, so it doesn't require x-rayed welds. My welders do not have a problem with minor imperfections. I was taught by an old timer back in the early 90's and found it to be a lot faster than hand beveling or an air beveler. Now that there are metal cutting chop saws instead of old school chop saws the cuts are much closer to being square prior to hand grinding.
+Shannon Haugen thata cool man a metabo is like a chop saw but for a 6" grinder the disc is only 16th wide great for cutting pipe but this could be useful when you get up to bigger bore pipe especially if you can get a smooth cut.
I'w thinking the beveler fitters in your shop would be challenged in the field while the field hands could turn the crank or push the button just fine in your shop. But that won't happen. It's the money thing.
outstanding, I have over 30 years and I hardly see art like that anymore.
Everyone is talking shit in these comments but I doubt any of them have video of them hand cutting a bevel because it’s hard. This is a really good freehand bevel.
Exactly!! My point was just that it can be done by hand without all the high dollar equipment!!! Not saying it was perfect but useable for the situation.
We have a saying in the pipe business as pipewelder, you can fool the fans but you can't fool the players keep on practicing brother
Lol, it's not hard at all.
@@haugndog It saves grinding time so what's not to like? I'm no pipeliner (due to bad back and shoulder) but I cut many tons of pipe coupons for the welding school where I ran the toolroom and your freehand cuts are excellent!
@@yessirmaster670 That's what she said.
Excellent job 👏👏👏
- Well skilled Fitter... Thanks
Not bad at all, it's not all that easy. Guys that say its shitty or not any good, are either the greatest torch hands alive. Or more likely have never touched a torch before
Blades 22 I appreciate that Blades! I will go a few years in between fitting up, which was the case here! It had probably been 3-4 years. The point is you don’t have to own all the high dollar bevelers to cut a pipe bevel.
good straight cut and beveled at the same time
looks good!! Tack it!
Very good work!
great work!!!
When I started this trade in the 70's My boss gave us a ball peen, a file and a cutting torch. Most people today lost this skill. Other than my eyes are older I can still cut, just a few more beaver teeth.
Yea, love that "beat on land" & that is one hell of a bevel, slick
I mean I've only started cutting with the oxy acetylene torch but I've already gotten decent enough to bevel. Maybe not professional but I'd say pretty good but I've never tried beveling a pipe. Loved to try.
Think you will need more than a file to sort that prep out mate, RAF!!
Back in school i used to do do Straight Cut and then bevel grind it down.
A good fitter can cut a bevel with a torch. 10x faster than a grinder! I too was taught by a badass old timer.
damn right, my eyes are going and cannot see as well but I used to cut pipe like glass. UA local 46 Toronto
Tony Silva nobody asked u
I saw once an old fitter that can cut pipe profile and bevel at a same time.
This is not a good quality only for progress i dont like this.
OK
That's a nice cut
Молодец мужик! Четко под фаску отрезал!
Фаска огонь
great job!!
Love the file as a saw....
Multipurpose file
What did you set your oxy/acel at?
Beautiful
👍🏾👍🏾not bad grind a smooth landing and its a go once u tack that sucker cool free hand job
I guess this is an old school torch hand style, as a Pipefitter I would just cut it with a bandsaw, or cutting disk, and then bevel it with a grinder. He is still going to have to clean it up with a grinder anyway to prep it to fit up and weld it out.
Like to see the Eddy results for that weld.
Good hand cutting skill
Damm good job
Good job that's how I do it ..Leo UAL46
Bravo sir.
Nice work, especially with the start and stop .....!!!!
I’ve been welding and tinkering since 16 y/o in 1970
Screw all the internet expert assholes...,
Well done
I’m a 4th year apprentice plumber. I had to cut 2 6” carbon steel with acetylene torch. I cut the beveled freehand and cleaned it up with a grinder.
Cutting the bevel reduced the time needed to grind a clean bevel, but this is clean! I’ll have to try this next time!
Nice cutting..
Smooth! I'm curious as to how you hold the parts together when it comes time to weld them?
Old school method is with a large clamp with short pieces of angle iron welded to them. A chunk of strut works well too. ultra clamps are the best.
Thanks! As someone whose trade was printing for a number of years, I find it interesting how the other trades take care of business!
a piece of angle iron and one of those vice grip chain clamps is what we used......2" schd 10 water lines just but it up and tack it lol
Was beveling 18" fixed position today about 1 ft off the ground. Looked about that good maybe a little worse. Helps to have your support hand right near the torch head. Good shit tho, beveling pipe in any position aint no spring breeze
That is a dieing skill for sure. Amazing work. Your patiences is amazing. I always get to excited and shake to much. Lol
Thick CA y? CD hmm
After the pipes where all laid out, I was able to cut and bevel 15 pieces in less than 1 hour! Tack it up!!! Almost no grinding necessary.
good job
Good job bravo
Good show! Not only did you cut the pipe but you made it weld ready with a bevel. Knock off dross and set up the MIG or stick welder!
Caroline the cat ! Or tack it with TIG
Hey guero Te quedo smoothly como nalga de india.
Imposing share one video
Great idea
not too shabby
Good jobs ,
Pretty cool. Doesn't it need to be ground smooth? Just curious. Pretty fawkin awesome either way!
drumtwo4seven yessir, after torch beveling you’d touch the surface with a grinder to make it smooth and make a land.
Unless it's tig root you'd knife edge , please elaborate before you say a land is necessary
that was nice man.
bravo!
give me a grinder. I'll show ya! lol
What are the advantages of cutting a bevel? I used to be a demo laborer and I would just cut straight in
Pipe fitting
Thanks for the video..
shaufik hidayat you're welcome. I may not be perfect at it, but the point is that you can do it with a cutting torch. Sometimes I go years in between fitting pipe so the little I do doesn't warrant the investment of a beveling tool.
Rigid recently came out with a cutter head that clamps on the end of the pipe and rotates around the pipe. It will do from 4" up and I think the cost may be around $2k.
開先つけながら切るってすごいですね
自分だったらグラインダーで切った後グラインダーで開先つくって時間かけてしまいます( ﾟ∀ﾟ)
Awesome!
Tack it , Leslie
Nice job dude I would screw that all up lol. It would look like I was blind
😆 i would've end looking like a 45 if it was me
I'll be better if you put the torch tip straight on the line and cut forward at the same angle as if you were cutting with a bevel machine you'll have a cleaner and straight cut . Nice job man
Skill!
Nice job! Clearly you've done this before.
What do u call a Russian burner ? Hakalumpov
Very tough to cut a bevel freehand. I usually try to prop my hands on something when cutting freehand with my everlast plasma cutter.
He even smashed a landing with the sledge! Lmao but seriously that was a nice cut!
yea 33.5 degree bevel? looks like a 20°-50° depending on what quarter ur lookin at..most likely refer pipe or hydronics system down hill 6010 no inspection on fit up root or final.. get the spray paint close! and ur lookin for 37.5° bevel ther bub. lu 598 pasco wa welder
I cut all bucktoothed like that too. It makes me a better grinder though.
Lol...ain't it
Just grind it out ! 👍👍👍
Tack it. Weld it. On to the next one.
Great skill by the way!! A lot of ppl don’t know how to use a torch
pls upload videos of hyd.pressure testing procedure of DI pipe fittngs like tee,elbow,reducer
I don't normally do that.
I did a 4" fire man under a BART pad that we had to hydro with very little coverage and we restrained and strapped it down and it still snaked all over the place at 150psl.
А вот эти движения кувалдой меня радуют. И претупление сделает и выравнит пока горячая труба.
hope you got a lot of grinding disc
James King lmaoooo
It will required less no. Of discs as compared to make bevel with grinder
Won’t even take half of a disc to get that thing looking factory with that cut. Clean as hell
nice
slick
Use a power roller do a masterful job!
Good fitter cutting
what are the actual benefits of cutting with gas instead than with a grinder? Thick material ,yes, but if the material is thin? I dont see benefits.
Nikolaos Pizanias i typically only deal sch 40. It is more about not having to invest in bevel cutting tooling. Especially when you only have a hand full of cuts to do. Now there are cool metal cutting saws so you get a square cut, and beveling tool cutters that are reasonably priced. If I were doing heavy production I would invest in the tooling.
that kind of fitting we dont try to show off wher im from.. more like get the welder quick sry for fit.. but cover this make sure it dont leak lol!
Lay a square on it that’ll show if you cut it right lol
Hell no! Just take a crack
Chop saw buddy!
The old Bosch Carborundum chop saws that I used years ago to fit pipe couldn't cut a square cut to save your life! They where always out a few degrees and it would take 20 plus minutes to grind an end up square, confirm the overall length, grind your bevel, landing and deburr and tack on the fitting. The method in this video, I was able to do the same joint in 10 minutes with the fitting tacked on It. I have had a lot of plumbers I worked with say you can't flame cut a bevel on a pipe, well here is the proof.
We also had a fab shop with a 24" 480v production chop saw that would cut a better end, but in the shop we used a large high CFM air bevel'er that used an internal mandrel to position the tool and pipe and it would do the facing, beveling and de-burring in one process. we would normally cut the pipe about 3/8 long to allow for this process. Again this is not an inexpensive option out in the field.
saddle bend calculate????
Golden hands
Looks like a shark took a bite out of the pipe
Nice and square. Good to go. Haha
為什麼不想只接用切管機切呢！開槽稍微磨一下就好了呀！
Meanwhile I don't even know how to use oxy acetylene lol
Where you get that alligator hot saw from, looks like you may have cut the wrong side of the line
Neil Gooden I see you're a bright one, so I am not going g to waste my time. By the way I cut exactly where I had intended and my length was spot on.
What if you can’t roll the pipe cause it’s welded in place. Maybe show that one
Steve, that would be a good Visio and it brings back a memory of one I did Back in the day and wish I had a video of it. It was on a school project rebuild caused from the 89’ Loma Prieta earthquake out here in California. I had a underground tie in of a 6” HDPE new gas system to an existing steel gas system that I was nervous about. The transition fitting on the HDPE poly pipe was fused on already and the existing steel, natural gas system had a weld cap on it that had to be cut off to drop the poly down and make the connection. Had my welder onsite with me and ran the scenarios by him, I was concerned I would cut it to short! His comment was, no problem, “cut a pup and drop that in!” Which helped ease the anxiety I already had about cutting the cap off a live natural gas system!
I did my layout, drilled a hole in the cap and tested my purge to ensure it was safe, made the cut and tapped my landings on, cleaned it up with my peanut grinder and swung the new system into place and, it was one of my proudest moments of my then young career, it fit! No pup piece needed! Welder did his magic and we put it back into service.
I hauled that old 6” weld cap around for a few decades! I wish I still had it, I’d make a piece of art out of it and pass it down to my kids.
God bless and be safe out there.
I know what you gonna get for xmas
Not bad
Get a mathey dearman beveller and roll on. I could make 2 cuts and have them cleaned up by the time you get a wrap around mark
Luke P. My point is to show how simple it can be to "flame cut a bevel" without all the expensive tools. If all I did was fit pipe, it would make sense, but for a few days here and there on a project, through out a year, I do just fine the old school way.
one thing that a bigger torch makes alot easier cuz u can rest the neck on the pipe
That's right. I always wanted to give it a try with my Plasma, but that is not how I learned! Not sure I could replicate the bevel angle and keep my hand away from the heat!
You are very good but I did not use oxygen in the profession Faberkishn
Looks like a beaver chewed it off.
it takes practice
hey fuck it right...good to go.
I think I'll take a wafer wheel and Millhog please.
GRRRR! I can't roll my pipe!
we have machine that can creep on pipe and do 360 degree cutting itself .please visit www.sunbow-cut-weld.com/article.asp?id=707 for ThinkPipe profile cutting machine.
understood
You do know they make a 72 deg. head.
Good jop
Резка на троечку,кто понятие имеет о резке трубы,меня поймёт.
good enough for the girls go for
Да ну на фиг какая хорошая работа, вы что там курите... Дайте ему шлифмашинку...
Welding boss said if u dont look busy u can get ur ass on the unemployment line... someone show these guys what a bevel machine is...
Sebastian Rocha obviously you didn’t read my other comments and the point I was making.
I have used beveling machines, they are great, just not always available.
What do you do if your bevel tool breaks down? Go home?
A good welder could handle that fit. But he better be good.
were you ever able to get a cleaner cut im not being a dick im just curious i dont get the luxury of a bevel machine so i have to use a metabo
+ralphgomez78 Ralph, I'm not sure what a metabo is, maybe you can explain.I can get a really clean bevel on larger pipe. Especially if I get a chance to stay out in the field and get a few warm up cuts in. Most of my stuff is sch 40 medium pressure gas, so it doesn't require x-rayed welds. My welders do not have a problem with minor imperfections. I was taught by an old timer back in the early 90's and found it to be a lot faster than hand beveling or an air beveler. Now that there are metal cutting chop saws instead of old school chop saws the cuts are much closer to being square prior to hand grinding.
+Shannon Haugen thata cool man a metabo is like a chop saw but for a 6" grinder the disc is only 16th wide great for cutting pipe but this could be useful when you get up to bigger bore pipe especially if you can get a smooth cut.
this cut would not pass in my shop. we would use a torch bevel machine
Ma'am my point was that it is easily possible to hand flame cut your bevel WITHOUT A MACHINE OR JIG.
I'w thinking the beveler fitters in your shop would be challenged in the field while the field hands could turn the crank or push the button just fine in your shop.
But that won't happen. It's the money thing.