Everyone is talking shit in these comments but I doubt any of them have video of them hand cutting a bevel because it’s hard. This is a really good freehand bevel.
Exactly!! My point was just that it can be done by hand without all the high dollar equipment!!! Not saying it was perfect but useable for the situation.
@@haugndog It saves grinding time so what's not to like? I'm no pipeliner (due to bad back and shoulder) but I cut many tons of pipe coupons for the welding school where I ran the toolroom and your freehand cuts are excellent!
Not bad at all, it's not all that easy. Guys that say its shitty or not any good, are either the greatest torch hands alive. Or more likely have never touched a torch before
Blades 22 I appreciate that Blades! I will go a few years in between fitting up, which was the case here! It had probably been 3-4 years. The point is you don’t have to own all the high dollar bevelers to cut a pipe bevel.
I mean I've only started cutting with the oxy acetylene torch but I've already gotten decent enough to bevel. Maybe not professional but I'd say pretty good but I've never tried beveling a pipe. Loved to try.
I guess this is an old school torch hand style, as a Pipefitter I would just cut it with a bandsaw, or cutting disk, and then bevel it with a grinder. He is still going to have to clean it up with a grinder anyway to prep it to fit up and weld it out.
When I started this trade in the 70's My boss gave us a ball peen, a file and a cutting torch. Most people today lost this skill. Other than my eyes are older I can still cut, just a few more beaver teeth.
I’m a 4th year apprentice plumber. I had to cut 2 6” carbon steel with acetylene torch. I cut the beveled freehand and cleaned it up with a grinder. Cutting the bevel reduced the time needed to grind a clean bevel, but this is clean! I’ll have to try this next time!
yea 33.5 degree bevel? looks like a 20°-50° depending on what quarter ur lookin at..most likely refer pipe or hydronics system down hill 6010 no inspection on fit up root or final.. get the spray paint close! and ur lookin for 37.5° bevel ther bub. lu 598 pasco wa welder
Was beveling 18" fixed position today about 1 ft off the ground. Looked about that good maybe a little worse. Helps to have your support hand right near the torch head. Good shit tho, beveling pipe in any position aint no spring breeze
I'll be better if you put the torch tip straight on the line and cut forward at the same angle as if you were cutting with a bevel machine you'll have a cleaner and straight cut . Nice job man
Nikolaos Pizanias i typically only deal sch 40. It is more about not having to invest in bevel cutting tooling. Especially when you only have a hand full of cuts to do. Now there are cool metal cutting saws so you get a square cut, and beveling tool cutters that are reasonably priced. If I were doing heavy production I would invest in the tooling.
Nice work, especially with the start and stop .....!!!! I’ve been welding and tinkering since 16 y/o in 1970 Screw all the internet expert assholes..., Well done
michael schade would love to see it! I have been told by many plumbers that I have worked with over the years that you can't flame cut a bevel! I just wanted to share it with others that it is easily done with a little bit of practice. I may go a year or between jobs that I need to fit on. I only do it when we are in a pinch. I enjoy doing it and if I did it daily my cuts would look 10x's better. When I did this video I hadn't fit anything up for 3+ years. Part of me wants to try with a plasma cutter but I have always used a standard torch and know the feel. Please share your work. I love to see others work and methodology.
I have a video on my page of a pipe roller plasma cutting stand I made. It does thin wall pipe pretty well but I need a better plasma cutter to do thicker pipe. Plus it also works with a cutting torch as well.
I'w thinking the beveler fitters in your shop would be challenged in the field while the field hands could turn the crank or push the button just fine in your shop. But that won't happen. It's the money thing.
I don't normally do that. I did a 4" fire man under a BART pad that we had to hydro with very little coverage and we restrained and strapped it down and it still snaked all over the place at 150psl.
That's right. I always wanted to give it a try with my Plasma, but that is not how I learned! Not sure I could replicate the bevel angle and keep my hand away from the heat!
Luke P. My point is to show how simple it can be to "flame cut a bevel" without all the expensive tools. If all I did was fit pipe, it would make sense, but for a few days here and there on a project, through out a year, I do just fine the old school way.
+ralphgomez78 Ralph, I'm not sure what a metabo is, maybe you can explain.I can get a really clean bevel on larger pipe. Especially if I get a chance to stay out in the field and get a few warm up cuts in. Most of my stuff is sch 40 medium pressure gas, so it doesn't require x-rayed welds. My welders do not have a problem with minor imperfections. I was taught by an old timer back in the early 90's and found it to be a lot faster than hand beveling or an air beveler. Now that there are metal cutting chop saws instead of old school chop saws the cuts are much closer to being square prior to hand grinding.
+Shannon Haugen thata cool man a metabo is like a chop saw but for a 6" grinder the disc is only 16th wide great for cutting pipe but this could be useful when you get up to bigger bore pipe especially if you can get a smooth cut.
Sebastian Rocha obviously you didn’t read my other comments and the point I was making. I have used beveling machines, they are great, just not always available. What do you do if your bevel tool breaks down? Go home?
It looks like shit I bet y'all are doing hvac pipe yeah you are all water pipe shit would not fly in a shop or a plant construction site lol it's good if it's just water chiller pipes but can't do dat on high pressure asme piping
And this folks is the problem with this type of mindset in society. You have to find a middle ground between perfect as you claim b/c you are hourly (I call this milking the clock and working yourself out of a job!) And production so you ensure you make the company money and therefore you have a job in the long run. I bet you sit at home when the work dries up!
I won't lie to kick that horrible. Always cut going up hill do the start stop by kicking it up on the drop side and feather back in when starting again
Lots of experience. It takes about 10,000 hours of doing this to become a real pro - maybe even more. 10,000 hours is only about 5 years, I would give it a good 10 to really have it down; but then you know what you don't know and you realize that you don't know ...
iw63boomer not always true bro , some are faster then others on learning. They'll b having 2 yrs or less under there belt , lookin like 10yrs of experience
shaufik hidayat you're welcome. I may not be perfect at it, but the point is that you can do it with a cutting torch. Sometimes I go years in between fitting pipe so the little I do doesn't warrant the investment of a beveling tool. Rigid recently came out with a cutter head that clamps on the end of the pipe and rotates around the pipe. It will do from 4" up and I think the cost may be around $2k.
Get your free hand positioned right and make the cut in three turns on a 4 inch. Turn the ox down a little and you won't need a file. The beater will do the work when you pound a land onto it. I worked 20 years using a gas axe and a three pounder to make up x-ray joints. A grinder is for grinders. Fitting is for fitters. How many grinders you know making double bubble? If you hear your welder whining it's because you didn't buck him up enough to keep him from engaging his yap.
outstanding, I have over 30 years and I hardly see art like that anymore.
Everyone is talking shit in these comments but I doubt any of them have video of them hand cutting a bevel because it’s hard. This is a really good freehand bevel.
Exactly!! My point was just that it can be done by hand without all the high dollar equipment!!! Not saying it was perfect but useable for the situation.
We have a saying in the pipe business as pipewelder, you can fool the fans but you can't fool the players keep on practicing brother
Lol, it's not hard at all.
@@haugndog It saves grinding time so what's not to like? I'm no pipeliner (due to bad back and shoulder) but I cut many tons of pipe coupons for the welding school where I ran the toolroom and your freehand cuts are excellent!
@@yessirmaster670 That's what she said.
Not bad at all, it's not all that easy. Guys that say its shitty or not any good, are either the greatest torch hands alive. Or more likely have never touched a torch before
Blades 22 I appreciate that Blades! I will go a few years in between fitting up, which was the case here! It had probably been 3-4 years. The point is you don’t have to own all the high dollar bevelers to cut a pipe bevel.
A good fitter can cut a bevel with a torch. 10x faster than a grinder! I too was taught by a badass old timer.
damn right, my eyes are going and cannot see as well but I used to cut pipe like glass. UA local 46 Toronto
Tony Silva nobody asked u
I saw once an old fitter that can cut pipe profile and bevel at a same time.
This is not a good quality only for progress i dont like this.
OK
I mean I've only started cutting with the oxy acetylene torch but I've already gotten decent enough to bevel. Maybe not professional but I'd say pretty good but I've never tried beveling a pipe. Loved to try.
I guess this is an old school torch hand style, as a Pipefitter I would just cut it with a bandsaw, or cutting disk, and then bevel it with a grinder. He is still going to have to clean it up with a grinder anyway to prep it to fit up and weld it out.
When I started this trade in the 70's My boss gave us a ball peen, a file and a cutting torch. Most people today lost this skill. Other than my eyes are older I can still cut, just a few more beaver teeth.
Yea, love that "beat on land" & that is one hell of a bevel, slick
good straight cut and beveled at the same time
After the pipes where all laid out, I was able to cut and bevel 15 pieces in less than 1 hour! Tack it up!!! Almost no grinding necessary.
Smooth! I'm curious as to how you hold the parts together when it comes time to weld them?
Old school method is with a large clamp with short pieces of angle iron welded to them. A chunk of strut works well too. ultra clamps are the best.
Thanks! As someone whose trade was printing for a number of years, I find it interesting how the other trades take care of business!
a piece of angle iron and one of those vice grip chain clamps is what we used......2" schd 10 water lines just but it up and tack it lol
- Well skilled Fitter... Thanks
Excellent job 👏👏👏
hope you got a lot of grinding disc
James King lmaoooo
It will required less no. Of discs as compared to make bevel with grinder
Won’t even take half of a disc to get that thing looking factory with that cut. Clean as hell
Think you will need more than a file to sort that prep out mate, RAF!!
looks good!! Tack it!
Back in school i used to do do Straight Cut and then bevel grind it down.
was he touching the tip to the pipe?
Very nice good job good luck sir
I’m a 4th year apprentice plumber. I had to cut 2 6” carbon steel with acetylene torch. I cut the beveled freehand and cleaned it up with a grinder.
Cutting the bevel reduced the time needed to grind a clean bevel, but this is clean! I’ll have to try this next time!
Good hand cutting skill
Very tough to cut a bevel freehand. I usually try to prop my hands on something when cutting freehand with my everlast plasma cutter.
Молодец мужик! Четко под фаску отрезал!
Фаска огонь
yea 33.5 degree bevel? looks like a 20°-50° depending on what quarter ur lookin at..most likely refer pipe or hydronics system down hill 6010 no inspection on fit up root or final.. get the spray paint close! and ur lookin for 37.5° bevel ther bub. lu 598 pasco wa welder
Good show! Not only did you cut the pipe but you made it weld ready with a bevel. Knock off dross and set up the MIG or stick welder!
Caroline the cat ! Or tack it with TIG
all good but how to cut 48 inch ?!
What did you set your oxy/acel at?
Like to see the Eddy results for that weld.
Tack it. Weld it. On to the next one.
Great skill by the way!! A lot of ppl don’t know how to use a torch
What are the advantages of cutting a bevel? I used to be a demo laborer and I would just cut straight in
Pipe fitting
Was beveling 18" fixed position today about 1 ft off the ground. Looked about that good maybe a little worse. Helps to have your support hand right near the torch head. Good shit tho, beveling pipe in any position aint no spring breeze
I'll be better if you put the torch tip straight on the line and cut forward at the same angle as if you were cutting with a bevel machine you'll have a cleaner and straight cut . Nice job man
I cut all bucktoothed like that too. It makes me a better grinder though.
Lol...ain't it
Hey guero Te quedo smoothly como nalga de india.
Imposing share one video
Love the file as a saw....
Multipurpose file
👍🏾👍🏾not bad grind a smooth landing and its a go once u tack that sucker cool free hand job
what are the actual benefits of cutting with gas instead than with a grinder? Thick material ,yes, but if the material is thin? I dont see benefits.
Nikolaos Pizanias i typically only deal sch 40. It is more about not having to invest in bevel cutting tooling. Especially when you only have a hand full of cuts to do. Now there are cool metal cutting saws so you get a square cut, and beveling tool cutters that are reasonably priced. If I were doing heavy production I would invest in the tooling.
Nice work, especially with the start and stop .....!!!!
I’ve been welding and tinkering since 16 y/o in 1970
Screw all the internet expert assholes...,
Well done
Very good work!
Great job 👍
Pretty cool. Doesn't it need to be ground smooth? Just curious. Pretty fawkin awesome either way!
drumtwo4seven yessir, after torch beveling you’d touch the surface with a grinder to make it smooth and make a land.
Unless it's tig root you'd knife edge , please elaborate before you say a land is necessary
That is a dieing skill for sure. Amazing work. Your patiences is amazing. I always get to excited and shake to much. Lol
Thick CA y? CD hmm
А вот эти движения кувалдой меня радуют. И претупление сделает и выравнит пока горячая труба.
為什麼不想只接用切管機切呢！開槽稍微磨一下就好了呀！
give me a grinder. I'll show ya! lol
a cut covered in striations and dross is irritating, as a welder. as a fitter, my roll cuts look machined. I'll have to put up a video.
michael schade would love to see it!
I have been told by many plumbers that I have worked with over the years that you can't flame cut a bevel! I just wanted to share it with others that it is easily done with a little bit of practice.
I may go a year or between jobs that I need to fit on. I only do it when we are in a pinch. I enjoy doing it and if I did it daily my cuts would look 10x's better.
When I did this video I hadn't fit anything up for 3+ years. Part of me wants to try with a plasma cutter but I have always used a standard torch and know the feel.
Please share your work. I love to see others work and methodology.
Right on. Its tough if you don't do it every day.
what name right video
I have a video on my page of a pipe roller plasma cutting stand I made. It does thin wall pipe pretty well but I need a better plasma cutter to do thicker pipe. Plus it also works with a cutting torch as well.
Explain what doesnt irritate a welder
this cut would not pass in my shop. we would use a torch bevel machine
Ma'am my point was that it is easily possible to hand flame cut your bevel WITHOUT A MACHINE OR JIG.
I'w thinking the beveler fitters in your shop would be challenged in the field while the field hands could turn the crank or push the button just fine in your shop.
But that won't happen. It's the money thing.
Where you get that alligator hot saw from, looks like you may have cut the wrong side of the line
Neil Gooden I see you're a bright one, so I am not going g to waste my time. By the way I cut exactly where I had intended and my length was spot on.
That's a nice cut
What do u call a Russian burner ? Hakalumpov
Good job that's how I do it ..Leo UAL46
pls upload videos of hyd.pressure testing procedure of DI pipe fittngs like tee,elbow,reducer
I don't normally do that.
I did a 4" fire man under a BART pad that we had to hydro with very little coverage and we restrained and strapped it down and it still snaked all over the place at 150psl.
Lay a square on it that’ll show if you cut it right lol
Hell no! Just take a crack
Nice job dude I would screw that all up lol. It would look like I was blind
😆 i would've end looking like a 45 if it was me
saddle bend calculate????
great work!!!
one thing that a bigger torch makes alot easier cuz u can rest the neck on the pipe
That's right. I always wanted to give it a try with my Plasma, but that is not how I learned! Not sure I could replicate the bevel angle and keep my hand away from the heat!
Get a mathey dearman beveller and roll on. I could make 2 cuts and have them cleaned up by the time you get a wrap around mark
Luke P. My point is to show how simple it can be to "flame cut a bevel" without all the expensive tools. If all I did was fit pipe, it would make sense, but for a few days here and there on a project, through out a year, I do just fine the old school way.
Nice job! Clearly you've done this before.
Use a power roller do a masterful job!
good job
Damm good job
He even smashed a landing with the sledge! Lmao but seriously that was a nice cut!
開先つけながら切るってすごいですね
自分だったらグラインダーで切った後グラインダーで開先つくって時間かけてしまいます( ﾟ∀ﾟ)
You do know they make a 72 deg. head.
Dear God someone teach that man how to use a file right. Y'all seriously gonna weld that with a jagged kerf on it???
Looks like a shark took a bite out of the pipe
were you ever able to get a cleaner cut im not being a dick im just curious i dont get the luxury of a bevel machine so i have to use a metabo
+ralphgomez78 Ralph, I'm not sure what a metabo is, maybe you can explain.I can get a really clean bevel on larger pipe. Especially if I get a chance to stay out in the field and get a few warm up cuts in. Most of my stuff is sch 40 medium pressure gas, so it doesn't require x-rayed welds. My welders do not have a problem with minor imperfections. I was taught by an old timer back in the early 90's and found it to be a lot faster than hand beveling or an air beveler. Now that there are metal cutting chop saws instead of old school chop saws the cuts are much closer to being square prior to hand grinding.
+Shannon Haugen thata cool man a metabo is like a chop saw but for a 6" grinder the disc is only 16th wide great for cutting pipe but this could be useful when you get up to bigger bore pipe especially if you can get a smooth cut.
Skill!
Резка на троечку,кто понятие имеет о резке трубы,меня поймёт.
Meanwhile I don't even know how to use oxy acetylene lol
I think I'll take a wafer wheel and Millhog please.
that kind of fitting we dont try to show off wher im from.. more like get the welder quick sry for fit.. but cover this make sure it dont leak lol!
ummm. don't you mean 37.5 is what your looking for? never heard of 33.5.
Beautiful
Welding boss said if u dont look busy u can get ur ass on the unemployment line... someone show these guys what a bevel machine is...
Sebastian Rocha obviously you didn’t read my other comments and the point I was making.
I have used beveling machines, they are great, just not always available.
What do you do if your bevel tool breaks down? Go home?
Let's level and square it?
Tip is too close imo.
Nice cutting..
Y la cadena del banco, será para apretarse el cuello.
English please.
¡Ah! no tienes traductor.Y con esto concluyo.
great job!!
Métele escuadra haber si quedo escuadrado el corte 🤔
Этим резком не трубу резать надо, а листовое железо, и при резке трубы резак так не держат.
Good job bravo
not too shabby
It looks like shit I bet y'all are doing hvac pipe yeah you are all water pipe shit would not fly in a shop or a plant construction site lol it's good if it's just water chiller pipes but can't do dat on high pressure asme piping
City Boy713 understood. It is only low pressure gas (
Cool. But I get paid by the hour. I like everything to be exact.
And this folks is the problem with this type of mindset in society. You have to find a middle ground between perfect as you claim b/c you are hourly (I call this milking the clock and working yourself out of a job!) And production so you ensure you make the company money and therefore you have a job in the long run.
I bet you sit at home when the work dries up!
Just grind it out ! 👍👍👍
You are very good but I did not use oxygen in the profession Faberkishn
No lo sé rik me parece que le quedó descuadrado el corte 🤔aparte de todo mordido se nota que le falta mucho para aprender a vicelar
I won't lie to kick that horrible.
Always cut going up hill do the start stop by kicking it up on the drop side and feather back in when starting again
Great idea
Tack it , Leslie
that was nice man.
How da fuk does one make a perfect cut like that? Mine is always choppy and ugly looking
Lots of experience. It takes about 10,000 hours of doing this to become a real pro - maybe even more. 10,000 hours is only about 5 years, I would give it a good 10 to really have it down; but then you know what you don't know and you realize that you don't know ...
Steady hands.
iw63boomer not always true bro , some are faster then others on learning. They'll b having 2 yrs or less under there belt , lookin like 10yrs of experience
Awesome!
Thanks for the video..
shaufik hidayat you're welcome. I may not be perfect at it, but the point is that you can do it with a cutting torch. Sometimes I go years in between fitting pipe so the little I do doesn't warrant the investment of a beveling tool.
Rigid recently came out with a cutter head that clamps on the end of the pipe and rotates around the pipe. It will do from 4" up and I think the cost may be around $2k.
Bravo sir.
it takes practice
bravo!
Get your free hand positioned right and make the cut in three turns on a 4 inch.
Turn the ox down a little and you won't need a file. The beater will do the work when you pound a land onto it.
I worked 20 years using a gas axe and a three pounder to make up x-ray joints.
A grinder is for grinders. Fitting is for fitters. How many grinders you know making double bubble?
If you hear your welder whining it's because you didn't buck him up enough to keep him from engaging his yap.
Thanks for the pointers!