It doesn't matter about the tech or old feel it still sales like crazy and that's why they haven't changed it i love mine i wouldn't trade it for anything
I totally love my 2018 Pro4X also. Long live the frontier baby. Mine will climb a mountain. I went up a freeway on/off ramp backwards and almost went to jail doing it as I live in Florida, no mountains. It was funny cause the cop thought I wrecked and was flying off the highway. Funny shit
This truck is better looking than any other mid size out there. I’m glad they put the new engine in this one. I might consider this truck now. I’m willing to bet the new frontier is gonna be longer or bigger. I want a small truck.
Wake up call, there are people out in the automotive world that appreciate “old school “ trucks. I don’t need lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control. We want rock solid reliability! Nissan please bring back the Xterra as well!
I'm only 30 years old, but what's with all this, "it needs more" stuff? Review the frontier for what it is. If you want luxury go get the top trim Chevy or Ford. Our cell phones have all the Tech y'all want, let this truck be a truck. Some of us like it that way.
Us old guys love the gauges and low tech features. Hell, I'm going to install an 8track stereo and dig out my old 8track tapes. I absolutely love my 2020 pro 4x. Might even install a CB radio with an antenna topped off with a yellow tennis ball.
I'm sick of "innovation". Modern autos have been getting worse every year. There's a huge market for a rugged, simple, attractive vehicle like the frontier. I don't want a cartoon bubble body or a bunch of electronic nonsense built to track and spy on the driver. Give me a real machine. And when you have a great design, keep it the same forever.
I feel that bro, innovative usually translates to more expensive. I miss the 2000-2006 era of cars/trucks. Reliable, repairable at home with tools and if you had an aux cord you were golden 👌
Amen, "If it works, don't fix it" I have issues with the manufact urers, they change things that you like theyI have killed the pleasure of driving in my experience for the sake of stupid unnecesary innovations.
Also, what's with these "auto journalists" talking about hard touch plastics in a truck? ITS a TRUCK..meant for WORK!! If you're driving down the road caressing your dashboard, something's wrong with you. The only soft touch [interior] items should be the steering wheel, arm rest on the door, and center console. Hard plastics are much easier to clean than expensive leather interior.
Does it look like either of these guys have ever done a day of actual 'work' out of a truck? Everyone knows the styling and tech is dated...people buy this truck because it's unapologetically a truck.
The majority of people who buy trucks just commute in them. Even in the rural area I’m from in Wisconsin, few people are actually using trucks for work. And if they are, they aren’t using Frontiers, it’s American trucks, usually diesels.
These guys jump on the same old tiresome it's ancient bandwagon. The truth is, this truck has a loyal following simply because it does not have all of the additional expensive electronic "it's going to break soon" crap you find on other trucks. It's a solid truck with simply all you need, has a high resale value and still sells strongly.
My dad had 3 of these, ranging from 1988 to 1998 and he absolutely them. Seeing them today basically looking the same makes me very sentimental of my dad. Your negative criticism actually makes me want to buy one. It’s refreshing to see you of school vehicles still around!
If you want a true and honest review, there is a video of a Frontier owner who has 200,000 miles on his Nissan. He tells it like it is, the good, bad and ugly. Most importantly he gives his reason for why he would or would not buy one again. Those are the type of reviews that should be searched for. True long term ownership of any vehicle.
It’s just a simple, honest, old school truck. Hard to really compare and complain about. Affordable, it’s why I see them in every city and construction fleet.
The 4.0 wasn't average. It was class leading and very reliable. Also, every manufacturer releases their new gen motors on current gen vehicles to weed out any issues.
Toyota still uses a 5 speed in the 4runner and uses drum brakes c channel frameon the Tacoma if you wanted to compare old tech. Lastly the frontier sits on the fully boxed Titan frame so you can easily swap the v8 and also the front suspension for cheap long travel. The frontier is very under rated and a solid truck all the way around, new doesn't mean better.
You are right about old tech in those Toyota's and we called them out on it when we recently drove both the 4Runner and the Tacoma. Thanks for watching!
2018 pro 4x frontier owner....they could literally have this same truck in 3000 and my 100+old having ass would buy everyone leading up to it...I love it...its so simple and so fun to drive the older look keeps me coming back and proud to drive it around..
Well I'm 58 years old and i love old school guages, buttons, knobs and CD player. I refuse to buy a truck with a stupid tv size computer on my dash. Fewer electronics equals fewer problems. I bought the 2020 pro 4x and i plan on upgrading the suspension to Bilstein 5100 shocks with lift springs and add a leaf. This upgrade improves urban driving and increases off road capabilities. I love my 2020 pro4x. The new frontier front end looks like a baby whale feeding. Won't be long and they'll be building an energizer bunny frontier.
Watching this 3 yrs after they uploaded it, haha. Personally I think these 2 guys are being very harsh on this Nissan. Here is why. 1. For people that actually use a truck as a truck? This is a very good choice. Its simple, and easy to clean. 2. They keep mocking the 4.0 V6 that the truck used to have, but that 4.0 has been proven to go hundreds of thousands of miles with no issues. Personally have seen one with 340k miles on it and still being daily driven. 3. Price. This truck compares to a Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road and this Nissan has things on it that the Toyota doesn't have. What are those things? Well when my wife and I compared the 2 this is what we found. The Nissan had the following where the Toyota did not: Leather seats, Sunroof, Navigation, Power Seats on BOTH front seats, heated seats, Upgraded Sound System, Spray in Bed Liner, Rear Disc Brakes, and more power. The Nissan was $37,500 the Toyota was $45,700 so a HUGE price difference. If you are Posh like these two guys? Yeah this might not be the truck for you. If you want to pull up next to a car like these two guys and say "Excuse me, Do you have any Grey Poupon?" Yeah this isn't the truck for you. If you want an honest, simple run forever truck? This is the one for you.
Good thing it's tough as nails and kicks ass. No one's paying over 35k for this. It doesn't break. It's fast. It's powerful. These guys act like sissies. This is a tough as nails work truck and the Pro4x is amazing off road
This is truck is about reliability, toughness, availability of parts, value for money, etc. This is the least annoying truck you can buy. They have rooted out the bugs - look beyond the surface. That's the point.
Actually the trim on the older ones were chrome bumpers front and back, headlights and grill were slightly different, interior trim has also changed. Wheels have changed. I know it’s not a lot but your statement was still false. You clowns are gonna review the 2021 frontier and complain how they ruined the last small compact utilitarian truck there was. Some of us ACTUALLY use trucks for truck things and this a great truck for it cuz it’s got crappy plastic interior and has a real truck bed unlike the Tacoma’s plastic bed, it has a fully boxed frame unlike Tacoma’s C frame and last but not least it has rear disc brakes unlike the over priced Tacoma’s rear drums Cheers
Need a new Xterra. My 2006 was one of the best cars I ever bought. I'd still have it if it wasn't totaled in an accident. That V6 with the 6spd manual was very reliable.
We quite enjoyed this truck. It just feels ultra durable and reliable, so while it's old I agree 100% when you say it feels like you can abuse it and not have to worry at all.
Funny thing is they sell the hell out of these. Im a frontier owner and this truck is elite. I had tacos and frontier is indestructible. Good vehicle with more than you need. Funny thing is they bash this truck yet for offroad you don't need digital crap. You need reliability and plain style.
So, I bought a 2022 Ranger but I'm having real concerns about the transmission and the complicated ecoboost engine will make it to 200k, much less 100k. At this point, i can cut my losses and sell and pretty much get what I paid for it and move into a much more basic 2019-2021 Pro-4x and save a bunch of money. Decisions decisions...
I probably would. Those turbos will fail, and due to it being turbocharged the motor won't last. Plus it's a ford. Fords are OK but not know for incredible reliability. I'd rather have a reliable gas guzzler than an unreliable economical vehicle. I just bought a frontier with 240k km on it and I'm not even concerned a little bit about its longevity.
It CAN hold a v8! Think back to the 2010-2012’ish Pathfinder. Those were available with the 5.6 v8 from the Titan, and were identical to the Frontier from the front doors forward. Several owners have done the v8 swap. Bolts right in!
Today i still have my 2014 pro4x frontier, bought it 65k miles , today it has 168k miles. It s very solid , strong car like in the day i bought it. I can go with it right now where ever i need to because i trust it so much, it never let me down. I love that is rugged on the inside. I love my car. Other cars are probably same as good but because i have a great experience with it you cannot convince me others are better.
I love my 2021 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X, a great truck that has seen me through some fairly rugged off roads here in Western NC. I am sick of hearing reviewers complain about plasticy interiors and lack of electronics. That is partly what makes this "ancient" truck so good. I don't need soft touch materials or leather dashboard or whatever, and a 15 inch screen with 20000 pages of windows I have to go through just to turn the air up. All that does is make the vehicle more expensive, no thanks. Vehicle prices are too high to begin with, not to mention dealership markups. Oh, by the way, I find this truck to be fantastic on pavement as well as off road.
Yes, needed two refreshes or redesigns by now. Compared to the new trucks, this is ancient. As far as being a great little truck? Has been and still is a great little truck. I'm buying one for my work truck for so many reasons due to it's "ancient" qualities.
It's ancient but I'm really looking at downsizing from a 2015 Tundra with the 5.7. It also has 310 hp. This truck would be a perfect camping/overlanding rig with an Ironman 4x4 suspension lift/rock sliders and a camper shell/pop up tent set up like GFC/Super Pacific/Alu Cab - 310 hp and a 9 speed tranny sounds like a beast off road - I'd really like someone to compare the old engine and this one.
I'm actually in the market for something exactly like this. As long as it has Bluetooth im good. The tech issue really doesn't bother me. My iPhone is good for all those features. But it's the most reliable truck next to a Honda. I'll be purchasing one soon!
I hate hearing these guys bitch about electronics. I fucking don't understand half the shit in my RAV4. I didn't know what half the shit did in my 2006 Silverado. What actual truck buyers want: Reliable vehicle that can haul equipment or toys. What suburbanites who are trying to look tough and rugged want: Fully decked out Cadillac in truck form that will make me look tough from the outside.
Obviously reliability is undervalued here and that's coming from a Toyota Tacoma owner who has a recall to replace the fuel pump but the dealership can't get to it for 2 months. My frontiers and xterra's were bomb proof.
Ok guys ,stop bashing the Frontier. I currently own a 2018 Pro4X. I paid only 20K cash. This truck in this configuration went for about 35K. Mine only had 23K miles. It's still in unmolested mint condition. We'll, I did a leveling kit on the front. Switched out bulbs and headlights to LEDs. It's just fine. It's tough. Dependable. I just got a new AGM battery last week. 300 bucks !!!!!!! Damn it man. Now I'm ready for plugs, brakes and tires. Which will probably be about 3K. But that's ok. I love my truck. It has it wear it counts. Everything you need And nothing you dont, literally. I hate all of the newer trucks and cars for that matter. I mean they are one fuse away from being useless.!!!!! And the prices cost as much as a house I swear. Fuck that.
You guys could not be more wrong. You want a car not a truck. People who know what a truck is buy this truck. People who want a car/truck buy a Honda ridgeline. Clearly you are car guys. Stick with cars.
Between here and our TV show, we've driven all the major mid and full sized pick-ups in the last year. Some we liked and some we didn't. And as we do in all our reviews, we discussed both the good and the bad of every one. Thanks for watching.
Man, thanks for that walk down memory lane at 8:32 - that orange Datsun King Cab - I learned to drive a stick with that identical truck. My dad had one and used for construction side jobs and it was his daily. I remember he put on a Weber carb. and I thought it was so cool. You couldn't kill that little truck. I had so many miles and a hole in the floor board developed so my dad put a piece of plywood down there under the floor mat. HAHA. I remember I was heading out to pick up a girl for the high school homecoming basketball game (I was 16) I got in the truck and it smelled like cat crap. Our cat got in their and pooped in the extra cab part. The windows got left ROLLED down, LOL. I was so mad, but I asked the folks if I could use their Chrysler 5th Avenue, so it worked out, but I really liked that old Datsun and apparently so did the cat.
C'mon guys, everybody doesn't want the latest bling/bling, also many people love the look and simplicity/smaller footprint of the Frontier. I just bought one of the last 2021 Pro-4Xs specifically because of this, and the newer V6 and 9 speed transmission is awesome for this truck. This is one of the last small trucks that doesn't look like someone took a smaller truck and inject pupperfish-style air for unnecessary ballast.
Sounds like you have one of these that you like. Ultimately, we want everyone to like what they own and drive so if that’s the case, then congratulations. Meanwhile, having driven every truck offering in the last two years there were a lot of things we wanted to Nissan to address here. We got to drive the new Frontier recently, you might enjoy that review. Thanks for watching.
I'd actually like it better if they'd have kept the 6-speed manual with the PRO-4X package. I'd take that over a Tacoma that would cost far more in the real world ATP.
I love my 2019 pro4x. Its easy to live with and i dont really consider it old tech, its more of you got what you really need kinda tech and nothing more. Dollar for dollar, pound for pound, they are a great value.
I shopped for the Tacoma, had they had in stock, I'd be driving a totally lame engine, the Toyota lemmings can go on paying above msrp. After buying the 2020 pro4x, when I see the Tacoma, I think what chumps....
I have always been intrigued with these and live in Montana. You just described the perfect vehicle for where I live... And the new engine...If reliable...is great...
Got a ‘20 P4X, Seems to hunt for gears, downshift is awful, can feel 3.2.1 in stops, feels like a basketball hitting the cab. Engine is noisy and squeals when ac compressor kicks on. Not loving it, traded a 12 Xterra Pro4x, ride quality is great but transmission is making me nervous. I have 700 miles on it now.
This truck fits a nice niche. Affordable, simple, rugged and reliable. I personally would never daily drive a truck so I could care less about niceness or luxury in a truck. My wife and I each have a tesla for daily driving. But on the weekends this thing is good for camping, going to the mountains, moving furniture, home depot runs, anything. Plus I don't really care if it gets beat up, which is kinda the point of a truck imo. Additionally, seriously compare this to its competitors- the ford ranger is dated and more expensive. The gm products are nicer but are not reliable and look like weird angles. The tacoma is boring and more expensive, and not drastically more reliable. Plus it's not comfortable for taller men. Just my thoughts. Buy whatever make you happy.
These guys want a Cadillac ride out of a work/off-road truck..... This is probably one of the least honest reviews I've seen. "Tune in next week when we criticize an apple for not tasting enough like an orange"
Our work shows that your assessment is incorrect. We've driven all the competition and they ride better than this does. We understand that some people want a hard/crashy truck ride, but across the board truck makers are working to improve ride on all their model. In fact, look no further than Nissan - who's #1 goal with the new Frontier was an improvement in ride. Our review of the new model shows they've taken this architecture to the top of its class. You might enjoy that review.
@@TestDriveVideos nah. My assessment is accurate. Enough so, that you felt the need to reply to it. Its a big reason why I've never liked this channel much. The reviews are just bottom tier. They don't feel honest or natural, much less entertaining. Most of your car reviews almost feel like you have a bone to pick or you make poor comparisons. Also I feel like your opinions aren't valued by others around you because you're a person that is rarely satisfied or appreciative. Idk. Just bad vibes all around.
Your criticisms are so false. Let's start with the new 3.8 litre vs the old 4.0 litre. The torque is virtually the same. The nine speed automatic vs the old five speed? 0-60 times is still 7.5 seconds. Fuel economy is hardly any different. Interior plastics are rubbery so there are no squeaks or rattles even on bumpy roads beating the hard plastics of Toyota/Lexus. Great stereo with the subwoofer under the seat. Remember, until 2019 you could get the V6 with a manual transmission!!! And the ride is smooth enough and solid. I would drive it to the arctic. I would drive it in hot deserts. You can trust it and that is a hard commodity to come by these days. Want a smoother ride? Let 5psi out of the tires!
Funny. A lot of other posters felt that these two guys are just click bait like i did. Did they mention that the full reach from the passenger seat to to driver seat crotch area is spot on when you lay down? I bet they have tried it.
And if you don't like the ride - get an Old Man Enu 2" lift and improve it in every way and still save thousands over a TRD that you can now embrace on any moderate 4x4 trail
funny on how Nissan chose to put into the 2020 Nissan Frontier the Z engine witch is really cool I think like wow did they make it far better then the older versions of it so Nissan Go you guys are starting to grow up all over again keep it up Nissan and keep making us enthusiast happy and very proud to own one of your products all over again here Nissan because I just actually remembered back when the 90's was around here and I was actually in elementary school and Nissan was on top of its game then and now they are starting to go back to their older roots
Sophomoric, sarcastic and monochromatic review, fellas. Same old criticisms of the OLD FRONTIER. Try to get a little more creative and nuanced. I've owned performance sports cars, a Silverado Z71, and too many "mom" cars to name - minivans & van-like SUVs. I love my Pro-4x Frontier for it's honesty, simplicity and fun. It's a reliable platform that performs both on road and off. I disagree that it's not a fun place to be -I love being in and driving my Pro-4x! Before going with the Nissan, I test drove the Tacoma - horrible seating position and crappy transmission (I generally love toyota products - I own a Sienna with 80K miles and love it), the 2019 ranger drives too much like a car and was 15K more for the same features as a Pro-4x with the disposable DI Turbo engine. The GM products are great on the road but beat you up off road and their off-road versions are great, but, again, are more than double the starting price of the 2019 Nissan. Also, the deal breaker for me is the bed rail height. I can reach 80% of the bed of the Frontier. I can't even touch the bottom of the bed of the GM products their beds are so tall and the TRD taco, too. The ranger was better, but with the off road package, forget it - I couldn't reach much of than one either. I wanted a reliable truck, with a useable, accessible bed, good on & off road with room for 5. I got a great deal and very happy with the vehicle. For a good, fair review of the 2020 Frontier, see TFL Truck. Andre offers an unbiased, buyer-centered and entertaining review of the 2020 Frontier... Check it out
PURE DIRECT INJECTION causes carbon and gunk on valves so when warranty is ending your left with carbon and gunk on valves an a problem to correct.Toyota was smart to to have DI plus multiport to address this problem..It is SAD they went with a flawed process of feeding fuel to the engine
These guys do a terrible review here. We get it your spoiled and want more toys. Meanwhile the people who you do reviews for are buying these and get to hear 20 mins of how old it is. We get it. But for a truck that is as capable as a trd pro for 15k less thats quite a bit more than a little value. Especially when you consider it has more power, comfort and the same reliability. These also have the largest stock tires(pro 4x) of anything sans the rubicon. These are made for an adventurous and active lifestyle amd I think I speak for many of the owners when I say we like the interior being able to handle some dirt and water with out tearing it up. May not look as cool at the mall but we arnt there anyway so it kinda doesn't matter. I would love to see you guys review a subaru lol
We've reviewed plenty of Subarus, as well as all brands. And in every case we seek out the pros and cons, as all vehicles have them. We poke fun and make jokes, but always mention both good and bad, as we did here. More than anything we want people to love what they drive, and it sounds like you do. In the case of many truck buyers, they will be used more as commuters on concrete and than off on adventures. We applaud anyone who uses a truck as intended. Thanks for watching!
Frontiers are the best bang for the buck, frontier guys know that it has a titan frame so you can engine and suspension swap for ultimate off roading, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S DESIGNED FOR. If you go spend 50k plus on a truck you probably get your panties in a bunch thinking about how scratched is going to get. Cheap interior easier for cleaning. Low tech for reliability, all those tacoma guys with snorkles know better than to do water crossings bc they'll fry sensors left and right. Another beauty about 15 yrs of the same truck is FINDING PARTS for when you do break something instead of crying at the dealer bc aftermarket is still chasing the new specs.
These dudes... some of us like things simple... y’all probably need to test drive a spaceship to be impressed... smh... Nissan Frontier is for me.. i own one and looking to trade it in for new one... reliable + simple in a technological world.... love it...!
You missed the point of the truck. Completely. But if this truck is such a turd then why does Toyota still make the old 4 Runner with the older 4 liter and 5 speed at HUGE numbers? Because it works. The third gen tacoma is crap. The 6 speed (active learning trans) is garbage. It shifts early, searches gears, hard shifts. A real torque killer powered by the pathetic camry 3.5. Yeah it might get a few MPG's more but the Frontiers older VQ 40 has more torque and shifts normally. Its always sold 70K 80K units a year throughout its product cycle. The older port injection and hydraulic rack and pinion steering is bullet proof. Then look at the Chevy Colorado. Another POS. Worst transmission ever. Their 8 speed has over 5 years of defects ranging from hard shifts, shuddering and torque convertor failures. Pure garbage. Seats are also very uncomfortable (too narrow). Also the tacos seats means you sit on floor legs straight out. Cramped cabin. Ranger is the only modern truck that probably does better but its interior is far worse for ergonomics and the suspension rocks the body far too much. Plus the Ranger will cost you 10K more to get the to level of the Pro 4X. Its taken a while to get the 2020 production ramped up but Nissan sold 20K trucks last September. That's twice as much as any single month in the last 15 years. So easy for reviewers to slam Nissan. But this is the last honest truck for those that just don't want to worry about things breaking.
Nissan is making a ton on these trucks they sale everyone they build between Enterprise rent a car and Hertz and Avis and any other rental company and so many company’s by them for contractors to work out of Nissan could care less and the folks who get them love how old the trucks are
Well nissan know what there doing because that truck still sells like crazy and will outlast any other truck on the road today especially for the price
I love the fact that it’s the same truck. Don’t need ( new tech ) to be cool I hate that expression. This would have been a good video if you didn’t go on and on and on and on and on about the fact that it’s the newest old truck 🤦🏻
The Frontier doesn't need to be a spaceship. It needs to be reliable.
Frontier 2022 is the Ol' Reliable Rocket ; )
It doesn't matter about the tech or old feel it still sales like crazy and that's why they haven't changed it i love mine i wouldn't trade it for anything
They sold 1/10 of what the Tacoma sold in 2020 lol, I wouldn’t say it sells like crazy, but I agree with why you like it.
Yah only in 2020 but from 09 to 17 they did
I totally love my 2018 Pro4X also.
Long live the frontier baby. Mine will climb a mountain.
I went up a freeway on/off ramp backwards and almost went to jail doing it as I live in Florida, no mountains. It was funny cause the cop thought I wrecked and was flying off the highway. Funny shit
@@shittywheelies7403 Toyota is so caught up in sales volume they forgot to rust proof the frames......again and again!
This truck is better looking than any other mid size out there. I’m glad they put the new engine in this one. I might consider this truck now. I’m willing to bet the new frontier is gonna be longer or bigger. I want a small truck.
Wake up call, there are people out in the automotive world that appreciate “old school “ trucks. I don’t need lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control. We want rock solid reliability! Nissan please bring back the Xterra as well!
I'm only 30 years old, but what's with all this, "it needs more" stuff? Review the frontier for what it is. If you want luxury go get the top trim Chevy or Ford. Our cell phones have all the Tech y'all want, let this truck be a truck. Some of us like it that way.
Agreed!
Us old guys love the gauges and low tech features. Hell, I'm going to install an 8track stereo and dig out my old 8track tapes. I absolutely love my 2020 pro 4x. Might even install a CB radio with an antenna topped off with a yellow tennis ball.
Big 10.4 good buddy! Breaker breaker!
Exactly, that's one of the reasons why I bought my Pro4X. 2018 for only 20K cash. Practically stoll it baby.
I'm sick of "innovation". Modern autos have been getting worse every year. There's a huge market for a rugged, simple, attractive vehicle like the frontier. I don't want a cartoon bubble body or a bunch of electronic nonsense built to track and spy on the driver. Give me a real machine. And when you have a great design, keep it the same forever.
I'm with you bro!!
I think some people still don't know the meaning of the word pickup
You are 100% right. 👍
I feel that bro, innovative usually translates to more expensive. I miss the 2000-2006 era of cars/trucks. Reliable, repairable at home with tools and if you had an aux cord you were golden 👌
Amen, "If it works, don't fix it" I have issues with the manufact
urers, they change things that you like theyI have killed the pleasure of driving in my experience for the sake of stupid unnecesary innovations.
Also, what's with these "auto journalists" talking about hard touch plastics in a truck? ITS a TRUCK..meant for WORK!! If you're driving down the road caressing your dashboard, something's wrong with you. The only soft touch [interior] items should be the steering wheel, arm rest on the door, and center console. Hard plastics are much easier to clean than expensive leather interior.
Does it look like either of these guys have ever done a day of actual 'work' out of a truck? Everyone knows the styling and tech is dated...people buy this truck because it's unapologetically a truck.
The majority of people who buy trucks just commute in them. Even in the rural area I’m from in Wisconsin, few people are actually using trucks for work. And if they are, they aren’t using Frontiers, it’s American trucks, usually diesels.
@@shittywheelies7403 lol idk makes it worse, a lot more ppl just pavement princess there diesels lol, more of a status badge now what you drive
These two are bougie. I've never heard so much crying about a pickup truck before.
The only soft thing I want in my truck is my girlfriend's rear end.
These guys jump on the same old tiresome it's ancient bandwagon. The truth is, this truck has a loyal following simply because it does not have all of the additional expensive electronic "it's going to break soon" crap you find on other trucks. It's a solid truck with simply all you need, has a high resale value and still sells strongly.
It doesn’t even sell strongly. They sold ~3000 a month in 2020 compared to ~20000 a month from the Tacoma in the same year lol
My dad had 3 of these, ranging from 1988 to 1998 and he absolutely them. Seeing them today basically looking the same makes me very sentimental of my dad. Your negative criticism actually makes me want to buy one. It’s refreshing to see you of school vehicles still around!
If you want a true and honest review, there is a video of a Frontier owner who has 200,000 miles on his Nissan. He tells it like it is, the good, bad and ugly.
Most importantly he gives his reason for why he would or would not buy one again. Those are the type of reviews that should be searched for. True long term ownership of any vehicle.
It’s just a simple, honest, old school truck. Hard to really compare and complain about. Affordable, it’s why I see them in every city and construction fleet.
The 4.0 wasn't average. It was class leading and very reliable. Also, every manufacturer releases their new gen motors on current gen vehicles to weed out any issues.
Toyota still uses a 5 speed in the 4runner and uses drum brakes c channel frameon the Tacoma if you wanted to compare old tech. Lastly the frontier sits on the fully boxed Titan frame so you can easily swap the v8 and also the front suspension for cheap long travel. The frontier is very under rated and a solid truck all the way around, new doesn't mean better.
You are right about old tech in those Toyota's and we called them out on it when we recently drove both the 4Runner and the Tacoma. Thanks for watching!
2018 pro 4x frontier owner....they could literally have this same truck in 3000 and my 100+old having ass would buy everyone leading up to it...I love it...its so simple and so fun to drive the older look keeps me coming back and proud to drive it around..
1000+ Year old ass bruh.
that math aint mathin.
Well I'm 58 years old and i love old school guages, buttons, knobs and CD player. I refuse to buy a truck with a stupid tv size computer on my dash. Fewer electronics equals fewer problems. I bought the 2020 pro 4x and i plan on upgrading the suspension to Bilstein 5100 shocks with lift springs and add a leaf. This upgrade improves urban driving and increases off road capabilities. I love my 2020 pro4x. The new frontier front end looks like a baby whale feeding. Won't be long and they'll be building an energizer bunny frontier.
Watching this 3 yrs after they uploaded it, haha. Personally I think these 2 guys are being very harsh on this Nissan. Here is why. 1. For people that actually use a truck as a truck? This is a very good choice. Its simple, and easy to clean. 2. They keep mocking the 4.0 V6 that the truck used to have, but that 4.0 has been proven to go hundreds of thousands of miles with no issues. Personally have seen one with 340k miles on it and still being daily driven. 3. Price. This truck compares to a Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road and this Nissan has things on it that the Toyota doesn't have. What are those things? Well when my wife and I compared the 2 this is what we found. The Nissan had the following where the Toyota did not: Leather seats, Sunroof, Navigation, Power Seats on BOTH front seats, heated seats, Upgraded Sound System, Spray in Bed Liner, Rear Disc Brakes, and more power. The Nissan was $37,500 the Toyota was $45,700 so a HUGE price difference. If you are Posh like these two guys? Yeah this might not be the truck for you. If you want to pull up next to a car like these two guys and say "Excuse me, Do you have any Grey Poupon?" Yeah this isn't the truck for you. If you want an honest, simple run forever truck? This is the one for you.
Its still my dream truck. Compact pick up truck, easier for daily use. And it's soooo reliable
Hands down the best value in midsize trucks
I have a 2012 pro 4x 6speed with mods. It is a awesome truck. Better than by 2008 titan. 98000 miles with no issues!!
Good thing it's tough as nails and kicks ass. No one's paying over 35k for this. It doesn't break. It's fast. It's powerful. These guys act like sissies. This is a tough as nails work truck and the Pro4x is amazing off road
This is truck is about reliability, toughness, availability of parts, value for money, etc. This is the least annoying truck you can buy. They have rooted out the bugs - look beyond the surface. That's the point.
Actually the trim on the older ones were chrome bumpers front and back, headlights and grill were slightly different, interior trim has also changed. Wheels have changed. I know it’s not a lot but your statement was still false.
You clowns are gonna review the 2021 frontier and complain how they ruined the last small compact utilitarian truck there was.
Some of us ACTUALLY use trucks for truck things and this a great truck for it cuz it’s got crappy plastic interior and has a real truck bed unlike the Tacoma’s plastic bed, it has a fully boxed frame unlike Tacoma’s C frame and last but not least it has rear disc brakes unlike the over priced Tacoma’s rear drums
Cheers
Need a new Xterra. My 2006 was one of the best cars I ever bought. I'd still have it if it wasn't totaled in an accident. That V6 with the 6spd manual was very reliable.
They still make the xterra but oversees,dubai sells them but it's a darn uni body crossover
We quite enjoyed this truck. It just feels ultra durable and reliable, so while it's old I agree 100% when you say it feels like you can abuse it and not have to worry at all.
Funny thing is they sell the hell out of these. Im a frontier owner and this truck is elite. I had tacos and frontier is indestructible. Good vehicle with more than you need. Funny thing is they bash this truck yet for offroad you don't need digital crap. You need reliability and plain style.
So, I bought a 2022 Ranger but I'm having real concerns about the transmission and the complicated ecoboost engine will make it to 200k, much less 100k. At this point, i can cut my losses and sell and pretty much get what I paid for it and move into a much more basic 2019-2021 Pro-4x and save a bunch of money. Decisions decisions...
I probably would. Those turbos will fail, and due to it being turbocharged the motor won't last. Plus it's a ford. Fords are OK but not know for incredible reliability. I'd rather have a reliable gas guzzler than an unreliable economical vehicle. I just bought a frontier with 240k km on it and I'm not even concerned a little bit about its longevity.
It CAN hold a v8! Think back to the 2010-2012’ish Pathfinder. Those were available with the 5.6 v8 from the Titan, and were identical to the Frontier from the front doors forward. Several owners have done the v8 swap. Bolts right in!
The advantage of having a box truck frame :)
Today i still have my 2014 pro4x frontier, bought it 65k miles , today it has 168k miles. It s very solid , strong car like in the day i bought it. I can go with it right now where ever i need to because i trust it so much, it never let me down.
I love that is rugged on the inside. I love my car.
Other cars are probably same as good but because i have a great experience with it you cannot convince me others are better.
I love my 2021 Nissan Frontier Pro-4X, a great truck that has seen me through some fairly rugged off roads here in Western NC. I am sick of hearing reviewers complain about plasticy interiors and lack of electronics. That is partly what makes this "ancient" truck so good. I don't need soft touch materials or leather dashboard or whatever, and a 15 inch screen with 20000 pages of windows I have to go through just to turn the air up. All that does is make the vehicle more expensive, no thanks. Vehicle prices are too high to begin with, not to mention dealership markups. Oh, by the way, I find this truck to be fantastic on pavement as well as off road.
Yes, needed two refreshes or redesigns by now. Compared to the new trucks, this is ancient. As far as being a great little truck? Has been and still is a great little truck. I'm buying one for my work truck for so many reasons due to it's "ancient" qualities.
It's ancient but I'm really looking at downsizing from a 2015 Tundra with the 5.7. It also has 310 hp. This truck would be a perfect camping/overlanding rig with an Ironman 4x4 suspension lift/rock sliders and a camper shell/pop up tent set up like GFC/Super Pacific/Alu Cab - 310 hp and a 9 speed tranny sounds like a beast off road - I'd really like someone to compare the old engine and this one.
I'm actually in the market for something exactly like this. As long as it has Bluetooth im good. The tech issue really doesn't bother me. My iPhone is good for all those features. But it's the most reliable truck next to a Honda. I'll be purchasing one soon!
I think it's a lot more reliable than a Ridgeline
70% of this video are repeat and rephrase of this same pro and cons about the frontier! I want my time back!
I hate hearing these guys bitch about electronics. I fucking don't understand half the shit in my RAV4. I didn't know what half the shit did in my 2006 Silverado.
What actual truck buyers want: Reliable vehicle that can haul equipment or toys.
What suburbanites who are trying to look tough and rugged want: Fully decked out Cadillac in truck form that will make me look tough from the outside.
The lack of fancy new tech is the very thing that makes this desirable
Obviously reliability is undervalued here and that's coming from a Toyota Tacoma owner who has a recall to replace the fuel pump but the dealership can't get to it for 2 months. My frontiers and xterra's were bomb proof.
I also think that engine and trans are test beds for the new Z when it comes out in 2040
Ok guys ,stop bashing the Frontier.
I currently own a 2018 Pro4X.
I paid only 20K cash.
This truck in this configuration went for about 35K.
Mine only had 23K miles.
It's still in unmolested mint condition. We'll, I did a leveling kit on the front. Switched out bulbs and headlights to LEDs.
It's just fine. It's tough. Dependable. I just got a new AGM battery last week. 300 bucks !!!!!!!
Damn it man. Now I'm ready for plugs, brakes and tires.
Which will probably be about 3K.
But that's ok. I love my truck. It has it wear it counts.
Everything you need
And nothing you dont, literally.
I hate all of the newer trucks and cars for that matter. I mean they are one fuse away from being useless.!!!!! And the prices cost as much as a house I swear. Fuck that.
yeah, I dont need stitch lines in the door, I need to pull my trailer
You guys could not be more wrong. You want a car not a truck. People who know what a truck is buy this truck. People who want a car/truck buy a Honda ridgeline. Clearly you are car guys. Stick with cars.
Between here and our TV show, we've driven all the major mid and full sized pick-ups in the last year. Some we liked and some we didn't. And as we do in all our reviews, we discussed both the good and the bad of every one. Thanks for watching.
Man, thanks for that walk down memory lane at 8:32 - that orange Datsun King Cab - I learned to drive a stick with that identical truck. My dad had one and used for construction side jobs and it was his daily. I remember he put on a Weber carb. and I thought it was so cool. You couldn't kill that little truck. I had so many miles and a hole in the floor board developed so my dad put a piece of plywood down there under the floor mat. HAHA.
I remember I was heading out to pick up a girl for the high school homecoming basketball game (I was 16) I got in the truck and it smelled like cat crap. Our cat got in their and pooped in the extra cab part. The windows got left ROLLED down, LOL. I was so mad, but I asked the folks if I could use their Chrysler 5th Avenue, so it worked out, but I really liked that old Datsun and apparently so did the cat.
C'mon guys, everybody doesn't want the latest bling/bling, also many people love the look and simplicity/smaller footprint of the Frontier. I just bought one of the last 2021 Pro-4Xs specifically because of this, and the newer V6 and 9 speed transmission is awesome for this truck. This is one of the last small trucks that doesn't look like someone took a smaller truck and inject pupperfish-style air for unnecessary ballast.
Phoenix area dealerships you can purchase for $32k out the door brand new
Funny I watched a few minutes of this video and realized why I don't watch these guys. Lol.
What a horrible review.. this is one of the most reliable and dependable trucks out there. I'm sure these guys would be better suited in a Prius.
Sounds like you have one of these that you like. Ultimately, we want everyone to like what they own and drive so if that’s the case, then congratulations. Meanwhile, having driven every truck offering in the last two years there were a lot of things we wanted to Nissan to address here. We got to drive the new Frontier recently, you might enjoy that review. Thanks for watching.
So these guys prefer a truck like a Colorado and to be in the service lane at Chevy for a recall every month?
Jeremy James and Richard began working together in 2002, let that put things into perspective for you. Just proves if it ain't broke don't fix it
I'd actually like it better if they'd have kept the 6-speed manual with the PRO-4X package. I'd take that over a Tacoma that would cost far more in the real world ATP.
Maserati has had the Gran Tourismo since like 2007 and that thing is REALLLLLLLY showing its age
I drove a '16 from Florida to New York and towing. No problem with the ride.
I love my 2019 pro4x. Its easy to live with and i dont really consider it old tech, its more of you got what you really need kinda tech and nothing more. Dollar for dollar, pound for pound, they are a great value.
I shopped for the Tacoma, had they had in stock, I'd be driving a totally lame engine, the Toyota lemmings can go on paying above msrp.
After buying the 2020 pro4x, when I see the Tacoma, I think what chumps....
Don't mince your words, tell us what you really think 😁
Cheers
I have always been intrigued with these and live in Montana. You just described the perfect vehicle for where I live... And the new engine...If reliable...is great...
4:30 It did hold a V8, in the old Pathfinder. The 5.6L
What do you guys feel about the 22 frontier? I love it and can't wait to drive it and buy it.
Got a ‘20 P4X,
Seems to hunt for gears, downshift is awful, can feel 3.2.1 in stops, feels like a basketball hitting the cab.
Engine is noisy and squeals when ac compressor kicks on.
Not loving it, traded a 12 Xterra Pro4x, ride quality is great but transmission is making me nervous. I have 700 miles on it now.
I drove the competition and bought the best truck - a 2019 PRO4X
@@Tritium1775 is that you Fauci?
I miss the 90s. I guess i found my dream truck.
This truck fits a nice niche. Affordable, simple, rugged and reliable. I personally would never daily drive a truck so I could care less about niceness or luxury in a truck. My wife and I each have a tesla for daily driving. But on the weekends this thing is good for camping, going to the mountains, moving furniture, home depot runs, anything. Plus I don't really care if it gets beat up, which is kinda the point of a truck imo.
Additionally, seriously compare this to its competitors- the ford ranger is dated and more expensive. The gm products are nicer but are not reliable and look like weird angles. The tacoma is boring and more expensive, and not drastically more reliable. Plus it's not comfortable for taller men.
Just my thoughts. Buy whatever make you happy.
These guys want a Cadillac ride out of a work/off-road truck..... This is probably one of the least honest reviews I've seen. "Tune in next week when we criticize an apple for not tasting enough like an orange"
Our work shows that your assessment is incorrect. We've driven all the competition and they ride better than this does. We understand that some people want a hard/crashy truck ride, but across the board truck makers are working to improve ride on all their model. In fact, look no further than Nissan - who's #1 goal with the new Frontier was an improvement in ride. Our review of the new model shows they've taken this architecture to the top of its class. You might enjoy that review.
@@TestDriveVideos nah. My assessment is accurate. Enough so, that you felt the need to reply to it. Its a big reason why I've never liked this channel much. The reviews are just bottom tier. They don't feel honest or natural, much less entertaining. Most of your car reviews almost feel like you have a bone to pick or you make poor comparisons. Also I feel like your opinions aren't valued by others around you because you're a person that is rarely satisfied or appreciative. Idk. Just bad vibes all around.
These dudes are telling "dad jokes" and its not amusing.
I love dad jokes probably bc I'm a dad! 🤣
That old 4L had the best torque in its class and was fun to drive. The Tacoma on the other hand has no power and is boring as hell.
Where is the Everyday plate?
Good catch! Paul and Todd you need to put on the everyday driver plate and reshoot this entire video. 😉
Your criticisms are so false. Let's start with the new 3.8 litre vs the old 4.0 litre. The torque is virtually the same. The nine speed automatic vs the old five speed? 0-60 times is still 7.5 seconds. Fuel economy is hardly any different. Interior plastics are rubbery so there are no squeaks or rattles even on bumpy roads beating the hard plastics of Toyota/Lexus. Great stereo with the subwoofer under the seat. Remember, until 2019 you could get the V6 with a manual transmission!!! And the ride is smooth enough and solid. I would drive it to the arctic. I would drive it in hot deserts. You can trust it and that is a hard commodity to come by these days. Want a smoother ride? Let 5psi out of the tires!
Funny. A lot of other posters felt that these two guys are just click bait like i did. Did they mention that the full reach from the passenger seat to to driver seat crotch area is spot on when you lay down? I bet they have tried it.
I think Nissan should bring back the Datsun name just for fun. :)
from 2005 and still more capable than a TRD Pro Tacoma. lmao. (edit: I'm buying one. It's a hearty little truck and I'm hard on my vehicles).
And if you don't like the ride - get an Old Man Enu 2" lift and improve it in every way and still save thousands over a TRD that you can now embrace on any moderate 4x4 trail
funny on how Nissan chose to put into the 2020 Nissan Frontier the Z engine witch is really cool I think like wow did they make it far better then the older versions of it so Nissan Go you guys are starting to grow up all over again keep it up Nissan and keep making us enthusiast happy and very proud to own one of your products all over again here Nissan because I just actually remembered back when the 90's was around here and I was actually in elementary school and Nissan was on top of its game then and now they are starting to go back to their older roots
Sophomoric, sarcastic and monochromatic review, fellas. Same old criticisms of the OLD FRONTIER. Try to get a little more creative and nuanced. I've owned performance sports cars, a Silverado Z71, and too many "mom" cars to name - minivans & van-like SUVs. I love my Pro-4x Frontier for it's honesty, simplicity and fun. It's a reliable platform that performs both on road and off. I disagree that it's not a fun place to be -I love being in and driving my Pro-4x! Before going with the Nissan, I test drove the Tacoma - horrible seating position and crappy transmission (I generally love toyota products - I own a Sienna with 80K miles and love it), the 2019 ranger drives too much like a car and was 15K more for the same features as a Pro-4x with the disposable DI Turbo engine. The GM products are great on the road but beat you up off road and their off-road versions are great, but, again, are more than double the starting price of the 2019 Nissan. Also, the deal breaker for me is the bed rail height. I can reach 80% of the bed of the Frontier. I can't even touch the bottom of the bed of the GM products their beds are so tall and the TRD taco, too. The ranger was better, but with the off road package, forget it - I couldn't reach much of than one either. I wanted a reliable truck, with a useable, accessible bed, good on & off road with room for 5. I got a great deal and very happy with the vehicle. For a good, fair review of the 2020 Frontier, see TFL Truck. Andre offers an unbiased, buyer-centered and entertaining review of the 2020 Frontier... Check it out
They sound like morons what a dumb ass review 17 mins wasted 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Instead of comparing it to what other trucks are doing, compare it to what it's made to do.
No offense you guys are totally wrong about that truck
I gave up my 2016 ford f150 for that truck that is how much better it is
that's a really clean 2005! It looks brand new! :)
PURE DIRECT INJECTION causes carbon and gunk on valves so when warranty is ending your left with carbon and gunk on valves an a problem to correct.Toyota was smart to to have DI plus multiport to address this problem..It is SAD they went with a flawed process of feeding fuel to the engine
It maybe 10k cheaper now but it won't be when the new one comes out!
These guys do a terrible review here. We get it your spoiled and want more toys. Meanwhile the people who you do reviews for are buying these and get to hear 20 mins of how old it is. We get it. But for a truck that is as capable as a trd pro for 15k less thats quite a bit more than a little value. Especially when you consider it has more power, comfort and the same reliability. These also have the largest stock tires(pro 4x) of anything sans the rubicon. These are made for an adventurous and active lifestyle amd I think I speak for many of the owners when I say we like the interior being able to handle some dirt and water with out tearing it up. May not look as cool at the mall but we arnt there anyway so it kinda doesn't matter. I would love to see you guys review a subaru lol
We've reviewed plenty of Subarus, as well as all brands. And in every case we seek out the pros and cons, as all vehicles have them. We poke fun and make jokes, but always mention both good and bad, as we did here. More than anything we want people to love what they drive, and it sounds like you do. In the case of many truck buyers, they will be used more as commuters on concrete and than off on adventures. We applaud anyone who uses a truck as intended. Thanks for watching!
Frontiers are the best bang for the buck, frontier guys know that it has a titan frame so you can engine and suspension swap for ultimate off roading, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S DESIGNED FOR. If you go spend 50k plus on a truck you probably get your panties in a bunch thinking about how scratched is going to get. Cheap interior easier for cleaning. Low tech for reliability, all those tacoma guys with snorkles know better than to do water crossings bc they'll fry sensors left and right. Another beauty about 15 yrs of the same truck is FINDING PARTS for when you do break something instead of crying at the dealer bc aftermarket is still chasing the new specs.
I wish they never updated the Frontier. With the prices of trucks now, Nissan wouldn't be able to keep up with demand.
Too bad that they never updated the interior and ride. I would have bought one a few years ago.
Does it have a cvt?
No. A real transmission.
First of all guys , try driving any pickup on road and then switch to billsteins, the feel on highway driving is far better.your not truck guys
? - We drive everything in stock configuration. Change any vehicles suspension and it will drive differently.
I have a 2004 350z with a steering wheel almost exactly like that 😅
These dudes... some of us like things simple... y’all probably need to test drive a spaceship to be impressed... smh... Nissan Frontier is for me.. i own one and looking to trade it in for new one... reliable + simple in a technological world.... love it...!
I'm sorry I would much rather have an outdated super reliable truck than a tech loaded turd....
Love my 2017 SV CC 4x4 6spd manual 4.0V6, hearty lil pickup👌
Excellent, sales pitch.
I have a 2021 SV love the new engine and transmission lots of power😊
You missed the point of the truck. Completely. But if this truck is such a turd then why does Toyota still make the old 4 Runner with the older 4 liter and 5 speed at HUGE numbers? Because it works. The third gen tacoma is crap. The 6 speed (active learning trans) is garbage. It shifts early, searches gears, hard shifts. A real torque killer powered by the pathetic camry 3.5. Yeah it might get a few MPG's more but the Frontiers older VQ 40 has more torque and shifts normally. Its always sold 70K 80K units a year throughout its product cycle. The older port injection and hydraulic rack and pinion steering is bullet proof. Then look at the Chevy Colorado. Another POS. Worst transmission ever. Their 8 speed has over 5 years of defects ranging from hard shifts, shuddering and torque convertor failures. Pure garbage. Seats are also very uncomfortable (too narrow). Also the tacos seats means you sit on floor legs straight out. Cramped cabin. Ranger is the only modern truck that probably does better but its interior is far worse for ergonomics and the suspension rocks the body far too much. Plus the Ranger will cost you 10K more to get the to level of the Pro 4X. Its taken a while to get the 2020 production ramped up but Nissan sold 20K trucks last September. That's twice as much as any single month in the last 15 years. So easy for reviewers to slam Nissan. But this is the last honest truck for those that just don't want to worry about things breaking.
Great review 👏
Nissan is making a ton on these trucks they sale everyone they build between Enterprise rent a car and Hertz and Avis and any other rental company and so many company’s by them for contractors to work out of Nissan could care less and the folks who get them love how old the trucks are
Well nissan know what there doing because that truck still sells like crazy and will outlast any other truck on the road today especially for the price
Try driving the 4.0 with a 6 speed and you will be surprised.
I bought the 2020 because it is smaller than the 2022.
I understand what u guys are saying
I would buy it if they still build it even in 2030 and beyond.😊
I love the fact that it’s the same truck. Don’t need ( new tech ) to be cool I hate that expression. This would have been a good video if you didn’t go on and on and on and on and on about the fact that it’s the newest old truck 🤦🏻
But its old school that sells