I’d pay $100 per hour for 72 degree weather in the summer. My shop averages 100 degrees at 60+% humidity. We keep the HOUSE at 79! And just try to work in the sun. My SMTA clutch pedal is the same. Nobody owned a grease gun. Everyone’s said it, but great work, Squatches. Treasure your time together. My dad and I used to work together like you. I miss him and those times a lot. He’d be 100 next year. We spent a lot of time saving an H that he found derelict in a field in 1985. Tons of fun, our first tractor. “Someday we’re going to have a place in the country,” he said. “We’ll need a tractor!” And we did. And now we have nine Farmalls.
We're on our third straight day of 100 here. I'm melting, I'm melting, what a world! Lol! Seventy would feel wonderful right now! Kansas weather, gotta love it.
You have to admit, this hobby is under rewarding! You’re going to have 90 days in rebuilding and what, 14 days in enjoying? We’re all crazy to be doing it! As always, great content! You would be a great teacher in a votech college, but I understand your frustration with the pupils! Keep up the good work.
Beautiful to watch. Good video production too. Instructional narration is spot-on. THANK YOU. This will be a great contribution to our cultural heritage!
There is nothing in life more enjoyable in life than to watch the progression of work done to preserve a fine old tractor. Very interesting project. Thanks for sharing. :-)
Love it when you both tag team on a project, it makes for REALLY amazing content. 72°F means icy Mountain Dew time for you LOL. Keep up the great work guys.
I'm trying not to laugh too loud during the beginning of this video, it is the definition of MISSION CREEP. Well since I'm here, I might as well do this, and this, and this. Just like ALL of MY projects!
I think the M shared a backend with the OS-6 and ODS-6 tractors. My ODS-6 I believe had band brakes and not disc though since it's an earlier tractor. There's always something to do "while you're in there" that's how investigating an engine knock turns into a Super M taken down to parade rest in the garage and getting fresh seals and paint. I found it interesting that the ring and pinion are bevel gears and not hyphoid! Cheers Squatch and Sr! I agree anything over 72 is too hot, here I am stuck in Florida.
Really nice seein the two benches at work on different parts 👍 yeh can relate to the 72degrees over here in Scotland 🏴 that's enough for me any more than that an just don't feel like workin 😂 that brakin system is very similar to later model international tractors an always found them be pretty efficient in use Great video 👍👍
Once again some great insights into rehabilitating an old IH! I hope to go through my Cub soon, it has a lot of little leaks and lots of corrosion but runs good for 72! We should hit 108 today, in the sun it will feel like you are burning.
Geesh. After the list, or litany of things that need attention, I'm reminded of a cartoon my mechanic has in his shop. In the caption, the mechanic says to the customer "If you want my advice, take off the radiator cap, and drive a new car under it!" Great that you and Senior are able to share interests and help one another!
Interesting the way the input shaft is driven.. Have never seen one driven in this way.. Usually splined shaft and gear drive in one forging...Cheers; Mike in Louisiana
the H and the M series were my favorite models to both use and to work on. they M rear end was so over engineered for the original 1940 M that put out 40hp put in the high compression 4 inch pistons and you got 52 to 57 hp depending on the head you had.on the M . i had to change a bull gear in the field that broke a bull gear and ruined the pinion shaft and housing. my helper and i did it in 6 hours. with the help of a loader tractor and a crane on the service truck. and we replaced all the seals while we were in it. those were the days.
Wow!!! What amess tn that break chamber. I'm surprised you didn't have some indication of that seal leaking in the break chamber. Great video Squatch....
hey guys! If you haven't put that trans top plate back on yet, could you take a few shots of how those shift forks line up underneath the plate? One of the Ms I have is giving me some grief with the shift forks laying between gears. I know it's primarily from a worn out foot on the shift lever, but I'd love to see just how those forks actually sit. I'm not set up to pull the plate off of my own M. (yet..some day..) In the short term for my own repair, I can braze a new foot on the shift fork. And I've rebuilt the swivel pin and seat on the lever already. But if ya already have the cover back on, no biggy. It's just my curiosity about how those line up. Awesome work, both of ya!
23:10 The brake seals on my Case DC looked exactly the same when I replaced them. It was loosing a quart of transmission oil a day, I had a bucket rigged up underneath so i could pour it back in when necessary.
I've been in Louisiana know what you mean down there! I'm not far from Squatch here in Nebraska....plenty of 90's with humidity.....72 would be welcome👍
Great video. Thanks and I am enjoying the Super M saga. Am I the only one to notice the inside if the wheels have opening which look like a frog's face with an open mouth?
I have a decent sized area to do work like this. My problem is, where to put all the parts as they come off. I guess I need to buy a shipping container and set it outside the shop, for storing, so I don't have to trip over all the big components after they are removed.
that clutch pedal is normal wear , my 450 was as bad if not a touch worse. I replaced the shaft it rode on and had the pedal eye welded up . You may make a bushing for it where it rides on the shaft. There is a spec for the brake disc and housing when assembled to help it brake better. I think it is .030 to .045 thousands . I got that information from a IH forum if you are interested. I always enjoy your videos thanks for posting was just offering from my experience.
That deck cover came off nice. On my dads Super C over half of the bolt heads are completely rusted way on the deck cover. I doubt it will come off easy if it is opened up.
That operator platform looks just about like mine on super mta. Can always tell where the battery was haha. And similar deal on the clutch pedal. Someone had welded a long bolt on the platform as a guide. I think we ended up with new "main" pedal shaft and boring out the pedals for bushings.
It's funny how to us northern folks anything over 72 is hot and uncomfortable same as when my relatives visit from Florida in October and think 60 is freezing when I think its tshirt weather lol
Well just think about when you have been in temperatures of -20 or -30 all winter and spring comes. +30 feels like T-shirt weather when spring comes. Not sure how far North you are but -30, -40 isn't really that uncommon in the winter here. The body adapts to what feels cold.
The Metal Butcher how can you do that? You guys must not have the humidity that we do because 90’s is like go into the cooled area and find something to do or drive with windows down👍 the best temp is 60 degrees low humidity and low wind that is the best weather a nan can think of
@@whathobogrohknows I'm in Alabama. We're sort of known for the humidity. In the 90s I can only work out in the sun for 20-30 minutes doing physical stuff. Then I gotta cool off. Shade I can go much longer. 85 and shady I can go pretty much indefinitely. Like anything, you build up a tolerance.
It looks like you guys take your hunting as seriously as you take your mechanical projects. Great video. Won’t this be as close to a remanufactured tractor as you can get?
to get the wire retainers on the end of the rocker shafts. you may place the wire retainers flat on the work bench. wiggle the rocker arm shaft into them.. or use a flat washer just the ID of the rocker shaft od.. with the wire retainer on the washer.. wiggling the shaft in.. it pushes the retainer wire up and on the shaft. the suction tube also removes moisture that accumulates at the top of the valve cover when running.. which would cause the rockers and valve springs to rust during shut down. 253. the engine hoist.. needs to be blocked up on each side.. the axle bolts pulled. the wheels removed.. then Moly graphite assembly lube your dad has to grease them or a good moly wheel bearing grease.. this is about 45 minutes the last time i did it on a friends engine hoist. i left it slightly out of position and was watching when he walked past it and went to shove it back in place.. he almost fell over as it rolled so easily. you may want to search thru the caster catalogs and find the identical height casters in a much larger load rating. just for the end of the long legs which is where the weight is carried. you may find it a whole different animal.. on a different friends engine hoist.. i could not find identical casters.. but taller ones that allowed me to flip the long legs.. install a 5/8 plate that is bolted to the old bottom of the leg.. now the top and have the new much stronger casters out past the end of the tubes.. i wish i had pictures of that and how crazy happy that friend was.. lost him to Pancreatic cancer way too quickly.
Looking st the casting and gearbox case on the farmhall i can see where the soviet engineers might have gotten there ideas. When they made the mtz 2 tractor.
72 degrees and sweat? Don't work here in Texas. Heat index will be 102 - 110 tomorrow. Shop is a cool 85. My parents came down from the North one year and Dad commented that he was sweating in the shower. Got to weed whack in the morning before the sun comes up, after that I'll head to the Shop (Has a 12K btu AC that keeps most of the heat and humidity at bay. Super M is gonna look good!
Does the tappet retainer stay in the engine permanently? I saw it was in place when the tappet cover was installed and was just curious since I didn't see the teardown video.
It will be as close to new as you can get with out it coming right off the assembly line. I don't know if you are going to put new brake discs in or not. But for some reason I think you might. . Denatured alcohol if you don't. Soak them in it if you don't it will pull the grease out of them. .☕🍵☕🍵🌞🌎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Do the Ms have the same issue the H's have where the rear bearings fail and the balls get jammed between the bull gears and the case? It was 101 outside here today, and 90 in the shop.
@@squatch253 Looking forward to see more of your findings and how you will make it better at assembly! I fixed the clutch pedal on my Farmall 504 by bracing/machining the shaft and installing a bushing in the pedal.
24:16, yeah, i'd totally stand up gear box up in the air, as is, drain it maybe and display it as industrial art. I've actually seen stuff like this in Paris in some circles. Pen and paper design man, you first have to be an artist to become a technical drawer. Nowadays...not so much.
I’d pay $100 per hour for 72 degree weather in the summer. My shop averages 100 degrees at 60+% humidity. We keep the HOUSE at 79! And just try to work in the sun.
My SMTA clutch pedal is the same. Nobody owned a grease gun.
Everyone’s said it, but great work, Squatches. Treasure your time together. My dad and I used to work together like you. I miss him and those times a lot. He’d be 100 next year. We spent a lot of time saving an H that he found derelict in a field in 1985. Tons of fun, our first tractor. “Someday we’re going to have a place in the country,” he said. “We’ll need a tractor!” And we did. And now we have nine Farmalls.
We're on our third straight day of 100 here. I'm melting, I'm melting, what a world! Lol! Seventy would feel wonderful right now! Kansas weather, gotta love it.
LOL - 72F - a nice winter day in some places.....
BTW - LOVE the job Senior has been doing (in spite of the original comments....)
The focus & commitment to quality in every aspect of your projects is outstanding, many thanks for sharing.
Another no b.s. video just nice and clear what and why. I don't remember if I said thanks for no background music but THANK you for that.
You have to admit, this hobby is under rewarding! You’re going to have 90 days in rebuilding and what, 14 days in enjoying? We’re all crazy to be doing it! As always, great content! You would be a great teacher in a votech college, but I understand your frustration with the pupils! Keep up the good work.
Beautiful to watch. Good video production too. Instructional narration is spot-on. THANK YOU. This will be a great contribution to our cultural heritage!
Heck yea it's a joy watching you and Squatch senior showing those mechanic skills!!!!
I tell you between you and your dad the work is just fantastic. Love to watch you two work. Thanks for sharing..
There is nothing in life more enjoyable in life than to watch the progression of work done to preserve a fine old tractor. Very interesting project. Thanks for sharing. :-)
Love it when you both tag team on a project, it makes for REALLY amazing content. 72°F means icy Mountain Dew time for you LOL. Keep up the great work guys.
Great job. It is neat to see the inside of the transmission and drive.
Dear Squatch jr and snr, your channel is without doubt my favorite on TH-cam, thankyou for sharing your fascinating projects.
Outstanding!
Over 72, always the comedian! Meanwhile about 105 on my shop today.
I'm trying not to laugh too loud during the beginning of this video, it is the definition of MISSION CREEP. Well since I'm here, I might as well do this, and this, and this. Just like ALL of MY projects!
So interesting to see the workings of the brakes. Thank You. Nice job on the shaft.
You and your father are awesome. I hear a funny noise in the engine, ah lets just rebuild the whole thing. LOL
It is a pleasure to watch Senior work on the engine. The engine will end up better than new, I think.
Thanks
I think the M shared a backend with the OS-6 and ODS-6 tractors. My ODS-6 I believe had band brakes and not disc though since it's an earlier tractor. There's always something to do "while you're in there" that's how investigating an engine knock turns into a Super M taken down to parade rest in the garage and getting fresh seals and paint. I found it interesting that the ring and pinion are bevel gears and not hyphoid! Cheers Squatch and Sr! I agree anything over 72 is too hot, here I am stuck in Florida.
Luke Strasser you could get a m with brakes like a f-20? Sorry read you thing wrong never mind
Fine job, you and your Dad are real perfectionists
Yes, in excess of 72 degrees F. Too warm for me! That is a very clean rear end!
That Super M will be better than new, I have to say I have never seen a clutch pedal worn that bad, farmer had the temp fix for it.
A friend of mine has a 450 that has a piece of rod welded to the front of the platform for the same reason.
Really nice seein the two benches at work on different parts 👍 yeh can relate to the 72degrees over here in Scotland 🏴 that's enough for me any more than that an just don't feel like workin 😂 that brakin system is very similar to later model international tractors an always found them be pretty efficient in use Great video 👍👍
Once again some great insights into rehabilitating an old IH! I hope to go through my Cub soon, it has a lot of little leaks and lots of corrosion but runs good for 72! We should hit 108 today, in the sun it will feel like you are burning.
Geesh. After the list, or litany of things that need attention, I'm reminded of a cartoon my mechanic has in his shop. In the caption, the mechanic says to the customer "If you want my advice, take off the radiator cap, and drive a new car under it!"
Great that you and Senior are able to share interests and help one another!
72deg wow be blessed sir! It’s 91 here in ft Lauderdale Florida. Great work
Great video again. Thanks
I had a super M ..best tractor i ever owned...Wish I had it back
Interesting the way the input shaft is driven.. Have never seen one driven in this way.. Usually splined shaft and gear drive in one forging...Cheers; Mike in Louisiana
23:20, as you ALWAYS State, too much RTV, I see the SNAIL TRAIL of the tubes track ALL the way around the top of the body case.!.!
the H and the M series were my favorite models to both use and to work on. they M rear end was so over engineered for the original 1940 M that put out 40hp put in the high compression 4 inch pistons and you got 52 to 57 hp depending on the head you had.on the M . i had to change a bull gear in the field that broke a bull gear and ruined the pinion shaft and housing. my helper and i did it in 6 hours. with the help of a loader tractor and a crane on the service truck. and we replaced all the seals while we were in it. those were the days.
Wow!!! What amess tn that break chamber. I'm surprised you didn't have some indication of that seal leaking in the break chamber. Great video Squatch....
72° is where my AC is set to down here in Florida. Great video, thanks.
hey guys! If you haven't put that trans top plate back on yet, could you take a few shots of how those shift forks line up underneath the plate? One of the Ms I have is giving me some grief with the shift forks laying between gears. I know it's primarily from a worn out foot on the shift lever, but I'd love to see just how those forks actually sit. I'm not set up to pull the plate off of my own M. (yet..some day..) In the short term for my own repair, I can braze a new foot on the shift fork. And I've rebuilt the swivel pin and seat on the lever already.
But if ya already have the cover back on, no biggy. It's just my curiosity about how those line up. Awesome work, both of ya!
You might have a bent fork.
Great video guy's! I'm really hoping to get an old tractor sooner or later. Looking forward to the next video
Thank you for the video.Makes me wonder what I'd find in our machinery if it was taken apart!
You got enough vise grips lol
Great video
Remember, you got 2 mechanics working here, you can't be fighting over who has the vice grips.
Excellent video keep up the great work 👍👍👍👍
Looking less like an engine rebuild and more like a tractor rebuild! Got a major case of the "might as wells".........Know how that goes.....
Loving this 😊
23:10 The brake seals on my Case DC looked exactly the same when I replaced them. It was loosing a quart of transmission oil a day, I had a bucket rigged up underneath so i could pour it back in when necessary.
Thanks guys for an interesting video....
Very Good video Squatch and Sr. and a great job, i wish it were 72 down here in the South
This time of the year here in Louisiana we pray for 72° weather.
I've been in Louisiana know what you mean down there! I'm not far from Squatch here in Nebraska....plenty of 90's with humidity.....72 would be welcome👍
Nice job i love this kind of stuf
19:52 your garage frog looks a little underfed, you might need to bring him more crickets. =P
shop frog
At the time I'm watching this it's 104. But we don't have to worry about snow here in texoma very much.
Snows a coming, gotta get the M ready to plow.
Great video. Thanks and I am enjoying the Super M saga. Am I the only one to notice the inside if the wheels have opening which look like a frog's face with an open mouth?
I have a decent sized area to do work like this. My problem is, where to put all the parts as they come off. I guess I need to buy a shipping container and set it outside the shop, for storing, so I don't have to trip over all the big components after they are removed.
Love the long video thanks!!!
Just A GREAT video with dad can't wait to see it back running again soon 👍👍🚜
I think the clutch pedal bushing was a common problem. My Dad had 400 the same way. Except they welded a bolt to hold the clutch pedal.....
that clutch pedal is normal wear , my 450 was as bad if not a touch worse. I replaced the shaft it rode on and had the pedal eye welded up . You may make a bushing for it where it rides on the shaft. There is a spec for the brake disc and housing when assembled to help it brake better. I think it is .030 to .045 thousands . I got that information from a IH forum if you are interested. I always enjoy your videos thanks for posting was just offering from my experience.
Squatch Senior has the manual, so i am sure that info will be in there.
Thanks for sharing
That deck cover came off nice. On my dads Super C over half of the bolt heads are completely rusted way on the deck cover. I doubt it will come off easy if it is opened up.
When do you guys have time to deer hunt?? Looks like its been quite successful!
That operator platform looks just about like mine on super mta. Can always tell where the battery was haha. And similar deal on the clutch pedal. Someone had welded a long bolt on the platform as a guide. I think we ended up with new "main" pedal shaft and boring out the pedals for bushings.
Oh that cluch looks like the starting system on the grader lol
G'day Hobo
Murphy Law G’day Murphy, hows it going
I went in to a IH 140 rear end once,getting those shift forks lined back up was Bear.Im interested in seeing how you do it.
It's funny how to us northern folks anything over 72 is hot and uncomfortable same as when my relatives visit from Florida in October and think 60 is freezing when I think its tshirt weather lol
Well just think about when you have been in temperatures of -20 or -30 all winter and spring comes. +30 feels like T-shirt weather when spring comes. Not sure how far North you are but -30, -40 isn't really that uncommon in the winter here. The body adapts to what feels cold.
Hi Squatch. I'm having hearing problems - thought you mentioned the word 'paint'. Cheers. BobUK
72 degrees, a little warm? It's been in the upper 90's in my shop for several weeks. 72 would find me wrapped up in a blanket lol
Lmao right? I'd be almost cold. Then again I'll be huddled by a fire when they'd out in a Tee Shirt working.
The Metal Butcher how can you do that? You guys must not have the humidity that we do because 90’s is like go into the cooled area and find something to do or drive with windows down👍 the best temp is 60 degrees low humidity and low wind that is the best weather a nan can think of
@@whathobogrohknows I'm in Alabama. We're sort of known for the humidity. In the 90s I can only work out in the sun for 20-30 minutes doing physical stuff. Then I gotta cool off. Shade I can go much longer. 85 and shady I can go pretty much indefinitely. Like anything, you build up a tolerance.
Awesome channel thank you
It looks like you guys take your hunting as seriously as you take your mechanical projects. Great video. Won’t this be as close to a remanufactured tractor as you can get?
to get the wire retainers on the end of the rocker shafts. you may place the wire retainers flat on the work bench. wiggle the rocker arm shaft into them.. or use a flat washer just the ID of the rocker shaft od.. with the wire retainer on the washer.. wiggling the shaft in.. it pushes the retainer wire up and on the shaft. the suction tube also removes moisture that accumulates at the top of the valve cover when running.. which would cause the rockers and valve springs to rust during shut down. 253. the engine hoist.. needs to be blocked up on each side.. the axle bolts pulled. the wheels removed.. then Moly graphite assembly lube your dad has to grease them or a good moly wheel bearing grease.. this is about 45 minutes the last time i did it on a friends engine hoist. i left it slightly out of position and was watching when he walked past it and went to shove it back in place.. he almost fell over as it rolled so easily. you may want to search thru the caster catalogs and find the identical height casters in a much larger load rating. just for the end of the long legs which is where the weight is carried. you may find it a whole different animal.. on a different friends engine hoist.. i could not find identical casters.. but taller ones that allowed me to flip the long legs.. install a 5/8 plate that is bolted to the old bottom of the leg.. now the top and have the new much stronger casters out past the end of the tubes.. i wish i had pictures of that and how crazy happy that friend was.. lost him to Pancreatic cancer way too quickly.
Looking st the casting and gearbox case on the farmhall i can see where the soviet engineers might have gotten there ideas. When they made the mtz 2 tractor.
In Northern Vermont anything over 35 and I am not happy!
72 degrees and sweat? Don't work here in Texas. Heat index will be 102 - 110 tomorrow. Shop is a cool 85. My parents came down from the North one year and Dad commented that he was sweating in the shower. Got to weed whack in the morning before the sun comes up, after that I'll head to the Shop (Has a 12K btu AC that keeps most of the heat and humidity at bay. Super M is gonna look good!
For a minute I thought this was another installment of Kenny Kizzle’s rusty nuts ranch! 🤣🤣
It reminds me a lot of something I got myself into recently. Looking like one of those situations where you dig, you'll find something!
We call those cam followers in the UK, the tappets are on the end of the rockers.
G'day Squatch and Senior
That clutch pedal problem thing is purity common, we had a super MTA that did the same thing.
You did the video just in time I need to fix the brakes on my 400 i h diesel I always wondered how the brakes come apart
I really enjoyed that! :-)
Oh boy.... Didn't we talk about this? I could have sworn we talked about this.... LOL.
How do you remove the top gears to get to the lower ones?
Hello, nice to see another wonderful episode........and I am first to watch!!
If you have a few minutes, can you explain have the tractor works, ie. pulls and pto shaft
Does the tappet retainer stay in the engine permanently? I saw it was in place when the tappet cover was installed and was just curious since I didn't see the teardown video.
Yup, stays put.
It will be as close to new as you can get with out it coming right off the assembly line. I don't know if you are going to put new brake discs in or not. But for some reason I think you might. . Denatured alcohol if you don't. Soak them in it if you don't it will pull the grease out of them. .☕🍵☕🍵🌞🌎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
When are you guys going to get in that diesel farmall if you still have it from central Minnesota
Isaac Jacobs I asked the same question in a comment a couple of videos ago. But the way this is going nicely I doubt they'll get to the 350 soon.
Enjoy the series from Australia ( me that is) what happened to the new change fork you were building or is that just on the side at present?
What is that brown paint like stuff on the gears called?
72 is a nice early morning start work temperature here, and that's IF it gets down to 72!
Going this far might as well do a complete cosmetic restoration.
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Do the Ms have the same issue the H's have where the rear bearings fail and the balls get jammed between the bull gears and the case? It was 101 outside here today, and 90 in the shop.
@@squatch253, how do the M bearings look?
That mess in the brakes looked like a mix of oil and water to me.
You didnt show a close up of the clutch peddle when you took it off.
the dowels not installed properly would probably explain all the damage on the clutch input shaft
@@squatch253 Looking forward to see more of your findings and how you will make it better at assembly! I fixed the clutch pedal on my Farmall 504 by bracing/machining the shaft and installing a bushing in the pedal.
Reporting for class
Did I hear you correctly, "in excell of 72 degrees?" Oops I forgot 72 degrees centigrade is over boiling.....never mind. :>)
lucking out?
So....industrial rivets and cosmoline....🤔!
lol, ran when parked
Wait a minute you need to look at this differently the biggest problem is it’s not green 🤦♂️😂 near 95 the next 4 days in a row and dry 🥵🤬
Don't you mean "It's not yellow"?
24:16, yeah, i'd totally stand up gear box up in the air, as is, drain it maybe and display it as industrial art. I've actually seen stuff like this in Paris in some circles. Pen and paper design man, you first have to be an artist to become a technical drawer. Nowadays...not so much.
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