I would advise yall to go back and listen to LL's first 3 albums...he was a lyrical beast, check out You'll Rock and can't live without my radio...but You'll Rock remember he was only 16-17 when it was made and if u really know abt being lyrical LL is ahead by a slim margin...at that time but I'm not taking one thing away from Kane, the man is top flight no matter who he's up against
As an emcee-Kane. As an artist-LL. I think the margin that LL has over Kane is much greater than the margin Kane has over LL as an emcee. LL ain't no fucking slouch! And Uncle L has proven that he can adapt to the times 🤷🏾♂️
Big Daddy Kane is one of my favorites of all time, but when I started listening to hip hop, 1984~1985 LL Cool J was untouchable. Both for their own reasons.
Yo u heard the nigga on im bad the last verse?? My n' went crazy!!!!!. now lets not get it twisted kanyes lyrical feats were preeminent"he stepped the bar.
I love both them brothers but LL dropped the GOAT when he wasn’t even in his prime. With Kane I would have loved to see advance out of that decade of hiphop like LL did. That’s what got me to say LL, he has no limits.
@@guiltyuntilproveninnocent.Beastie boys were before them weren't they? Actually MCA and Bizuty before they added mix master Mike and became the Beastie boys. I think thats how it went.
@@dreddthaseeker6492 The Beastie Boys were a punk rock group in 1981. They started rapping, got signed, and put out their first rap album in 1984. Run DMC came out in 1983.
@@guiltyuntilproveninnocent. thanks. But before they were the Beastie Boys it was MCA and Bizuty (I spelled that wrong) and the two of them did a song on Def Jam Records before Run DMC sign to Def Jam. I have the album on the original purple Def Jam label. I'll find it and let you know the name of the song so you can listen to it. It was one of the first Def Jam songs I had ever heard. This was before even LL Cool J. You'll get a kick out of hearing some of the original Def Jam songs. Good times.
LL by a LANDSLIDE!!! People keep saying Kane lyrically have obviously NEVER heard walking with a panther!!! He is showing high level lyricism, people judging LL off the hits!!! They ain’t heard them album cuts….. EZ work
@@deeward5572 Droppin' Em, It Gets No Rougher. It Gets No Rougher was a Kane diss in the beginning as Kane was always spelling out his name in songs like Half Steppin' and Smooth Operator
Why did they skip adding the points for Ludacris and Treach saying LL? I know Treach then said "both" but he said LL first and Ludacris CLEARLY picked LL. 🤷🏽♂️ either way Kane won the votes there 5 to 4....my pick is LL without question. I love Kane but LL was so much more versatile and that is what I appreciate and hold high in my MC qualities.
l am a big fan of both and its LL all day. Kane was the man from like 1988 to like 1991 after that he fell off. Now let go to LL 1984 to 2010 you can't touch his run
Most will say Kane because a lot of ppl hated on LL because he was a ladies man rapper as well. Most dudes envy that and won't give the credit where it's due
Thank you! I been saying and thinking the same thing and this is also why other rappers tried to claim he was too commercial at one time. it's easier for brothers to root for those they can emulate in some sense but when they look at LL's muscles, energy and the Love he gets from the ladies, subconsciously they know they can't even begin to level up so they low key hate on him. Kane is great but he's just another fish in the sea of Mc's, LL is a Whale in a sea of fish, LL is a legend and Rap Icon, the GOAT and my favorite rapper. For a teenage boy 3 yrs his junior he was like a super hero and rapper combined he is one of the many muscular 80's icons who inspired me to be lean and muscular to this day at 53yrs old.
What separates LL from Kane is, he is multi-talented. He's not only spitting but he came with the smoother R&B shit that was believable. After that everybody wanted some R&B/Rap Radio hit.
@@rikkidgermano9640 LL had a longer career. Kane messed up when he started trying to be the sex symbol he was by losing his street appeal. LL never had street appeal
Well both got something in common both of them where born in 1968 ll is 56 and big daddy Kane is about to be 56 in September both of them did an album in 1989 1990 1993 .
I got a twist…. At 1st thought Kane was number one… But here is the wrinkle… LL went at Moe D, Ice T, MC hammer and Canibus… Kane was throwing subliminals at people no direct shots
You can’t go wrong with either or because they both changed the game in hip hop musically 💯 now if longevity plays a role in this, LL COOL J IS THE OBVIOUS ANSWER!!!
90s! Pete Rock and CL, DITC, Beatnuts, Common, De La, Cube, Redman,WU, Mobb Deep, Biggie, Pac, Alcoholiks, Del, Souls of Mischief. I could keep going but I choose to stop😂😂😂
Kane! his word play is elite. Crazy to know he's younger than LL. I felt he would've evolved his artistry in the 90s, he definitely would been just as big like LL or even Jay Z mainstream wise.
Song for song, LL and Kane said as much when asked if they were to do a versus. But Lyrically, BDK would Destroy LL and it ain’t even close! Btw, LL said Kane was his Favorite emcee. So that’s what it is. 🤷🏾♂️💯
Kane from BK so I gotta go with him. But LL got the catalog on smash for many many era's. But I will never forget what Canibus did to him. Idgaf what nobody say.
I might put Kane above Cool J. lyrically, but Uncle L. was that Terminator assembly line B-Boy Battle M.C. that every young dark and light-skinned brotha wanted to be!!! I was lucky enough to see Kane be one of the acts to warm it up for L. on the Nitro Tour in St. Louis in '89..or was it '90? It's all a blur!! THIS should have been the Versus...not Kane vs. KRS-One. This would have been more fitting - both are battle rappers, both have that sex appeal with the ladies. Both had their respective show D.J.s in Mister Cee and Cut Creator! They dropped the ball on that one!
Coo, Cool J all the way! Out 1st, longer career, could hang with BDK lyrically, still relevant, Murdergram Deux, I'm Bad, Rock the Bells "Original" sooo many reasons.
Both, but you have to choose one & I will tell you this with no hesitation there is no way in the world I would pick Kane over LL, LL is the Goat for a reason if you want to go off of lyrical ability alone I will tell you LL lyric for lyric can stand with anybody but here’s where nobody is paying attention, that’s not the only criteria the brother had, LL could flat out right hits/songs LL at times wasn’t even competing against other Rappers this dude was competing against R&B, Rock & love ballads you can’t name another Rapper with a catalog like his he stands alone & let’s go battle to his battle raps, they talk about Kendrick Lamar’s dis track was the first to become a hit and go world wide !!! They lied because Moma said knock you out was years before that and that song was every where stop the cap 🧢
Kane lyrically, LL musically
Big Daddy Kane Kane Discography, lyricist LL Cool J
Combined the beat and lyrics big daddy Kane
Kane has better flow and better raps...LL has more vocal and musical range...well said
I would advise yall to go back and listen to LL's first 3 albums...he was a lyrical beast, check out You'll Rock and can't live without my radio...but You'll Rock remember he was only 16-17 when it was made and if u really know abt being lyrical LL is ahead by a slim margin...at that time but I'm not taking one thing away from Kane, the man is top flight no matter who he's up against
🤔YEAH KANE A DICTIONARY RAPPER 🤣💀✊🏾🎤🐐📚📚📚
As an emcee-Kane. As an artist-LL. I think the margin that LL has over Kane is much greater than the margin Kane has over LL as an emcee. LL ain't no fucking slouch! And Uncle L has proven that he can adapt to the times 🤷🏾♂️
Real spit bruh
Big Daddy Kane is one of my favorites of all time, but when I started listening to hip hop, 1984~1985 LL Cool J was untouchable. Both for their own reasons.
LL has the advantage bc of his range of hits, discography, his cross-branding into other ventures that other audiences known him from
LL COOL J and it’s not even close. From the 80s, 90s and 2000s he’s been dropping hits after hits
"Its not even close"🤓💀
They both hit hard..
This was so biased cause a couple of ppl said LL and they just left it at 1...
EXACTLY 😡!!!!!
I thought I was the only one who noticed that
Yep. I saw that and was like "WTF'?!
LL still lost 5-3
LL lyrics can be hard as fuq don't sleep! LL the lyrical assassin 💯💯
Yea man people get caught up into the love songs N forget that Ls a great lyricist
Yo u heard the nigga on im bad the last verse?? My n' went crazy!!!!!. now lets not get it twisted kanyes lyrical feats were preeminent"he stepped the bar.
Real spit...GOAT!!
Don't even talk about lyrics. Kane reigns over him lyrically
I love both them brothers but LL dropped the GOAT when he wasn’t even in his prime. With Kane I would have loved to see advance out of that decade of hiphop like LL did. That’s what got me to say LL, he has no limits.
I love both of them
Kane lyrically on a different level
LL was a way bigger artist. With that being said… Big Daddy Kane! Shout out to Scoob and Scrap.
LL all day but Kane was a beast too on the mic💯
LL FOR ME RESPECT TO KANE THO
LL COOL J 🔥🔥🔥 He's Def Jam
Run DMC first
@@guiltyuntilproveninnocent. they were on PROFILE RECORDS
@@guiltyuntilproveninnocent.Beastie boys were before them weren't they? Actually MCA and Bizuty before they added mix master Mike and became the Beastie boys. I think thats how it went.
@@dreddthaseeker6492 The Beastie Boys were a punk rock group in 1981. They started rapping, got signed, and put out their first rap album in 1984. Run DMC came out in 1983.
@@guiltyuntilproveninnocent. thanks. But before they were the Beastie Boys it was MCA and Bizuty (I spelled that wrong) and the two of them did a song on Def Jam Records before Run DMC sign to Def Jam. I have the album on the original purple Def Jam label. I'll find it and let you know the name of the song so you can listen to it. It was one of the first Def Jam songs I had ever heard. This was before even LL Cool J. You'll get a kick out of hearing some of the original Def Jam songs. Good times.
Kane my favorite mc of all time. Followed by Kool G.Rap and LL Cool J.
I would say LL off longevity consistency and versatility
LL all day, Kane is 🔥 tho
Kane has better flow, cooler raps, and more style...LL has better songs, cooler charisma, and more range...I prefer Kane, but objectively, LL...
Perfectly articulated💯🎯✅️🔥
@@syrusonassis6785 🥸😎🤓
LL by a LANDSLIDE!!! People keep saying Kane lyrically have obviously NEVER heard walking with a panther!!! He is showing high level lyricism, people judging LL off the hits!!! They ain’t heard them album cuts….. EZ work
Nitro!...
@@deeward5572 Droppin' Em, It Gets No Rougher. It Gets No Rougher was a Kane diss in the beginning as Kane was always spelling out his name in songs like Half Steppin' and Smooth Operator
LL Was 16 him and Big Daddy are The Exact Same Age LL Was The Kid Killing them And Has Why more Albums and Better Albums
Real!
L..8 months older
Love both. Kane lyrically and stylistically is a legend. LL had 2 primes and is a legend himself. I’m taking a shot 🥃
Which timeperiods would you consider the two primes?
Living Legend Cool James (but 'Much Respect Due' to King Asiatic Nobody's Equal) ..
Why did they skip adding the points for Ludacris and Treach saying LL? I know Treach then said "both" but he said LL first and Ludacris CLEARLY picked LL. 🤷🏽♂️ either way Kane won the votes there 5 to 4....my pick is LL without question. I love Kane but LL was so much more versatile and that is what I appreciate and hold high in my MC qualities.
LL’s catalog bruh! End of discussion.
Greatest catalog of all time
LL easy. LL was better in the 80s and had success in the 90s and early 00s.
And nowadays brother. Peace! Murdegram deux is a banger straight up
LL only because I was born in 99 and mainly listened to him over Kane
l am a big fan of both and its LL all day. Kane was the man from like 1988 to like 1991 after that he fell off. Now let go to LL 1984 to 2010 you can't touch his run
Most will say Kane because a lot of ppl hated on LL because he was a ladies man rapper as well. Most dudes envy that and won't give the credit where it's due
True
Thank you! I been saying and thinking the same thing and this is also why other rappers tried to claim he was too commercial at one time. it's easier for brothers to root for those they can emulate in some sense but when they look at LL's muscles, energy and the Love he gets from the ladies, subconsciously they know they can't even begin to level up so they low key hate on him. Kane is great but he's just another fish in the sea of Mc's, LL is a Whale in a sea of fish, LL is a legend and Rap Icon, the GOAT and my favorite rapper. For a teenage boy 3 yrs his junior he was like a super hero and rapper combined he is one of the many muscular 80's icons who inspired me to be lean and muscular to this day at 53yrs old.
Get in your car or at the house...play "Dear Yvette" and tell me L isn't the one.
Big Daddy Kane lyricist. LL high energy performance. But me personally...Big Daddy Kane
Kane had the performance on lock too!
Big Daddy Kane!
Big Daddy Kane!✊🏽🎤👑
🔥B🔥I🔥G🔥D🔥A🔥D🔥D🔥Y🔥K🔥A🔥N🔥E🔥
I like what you did here. That was very creative. Never seen that before👌
LL Cool J 😂 its even close
Thank you
It's real close but Kane is better.
Love Kane but nah not to me. So I disagree LL and it's not close.
LL Cool J all day I still love Kane though
What separates LL from Kane is, he is multi-talented. He's not only spitting but he came with the smoother R&B shit that was believable. After that everybody wanted some R&B/Rap Radio hit.
Kane had r&b hits too
@@tommymack4677 But not on LL's level!
@@rikkidgermano9640 LL had a longer career. Kane messed up when he started trying to be the sex symbol he was by losing his street appeal. LL never had street appeal
Treach’s outburst “BOTH!!!”
was hilarious 😆
Well both got something in common both of them where born in 1968 ll is 56 and big daddy Kane is about to be 56 in September both of them did an album in 1989 1990 1993 .
Greats!
I feel the more appropriate comparison is Big Daddy Kane to Rakim.
That's hard. This is definitely a convo on do you vote for who was the more popular rapper vs the more lyrical. And LL had lyrics but its tough.
Big Daddy Kane
Hands down
LL Cool J and it's not even a question.😊 his hits are fire to date❤😊
Big Daddy Kane all day
Both. Takin a drink.
I’m go with LL
He’s hard as f
Pause
Kane 💨🔥
LL. Battle anybody, I don't care you tell 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤
LLCOOJ ROCK BOX'S HOUSE STILL PUTTING OUT DOPE ALBUM
LL without question! Kane was nice but cool j is better!
B⭐I⭐G⭐D⭐A⭐D⭐D⭐Y⭐K⭐A⭐N⭐E
I say both
LL Cool J…..no contest.
Really we should just appreciate both of them. However I prefer Kane. He’s far more lyrical and he wrote some songs for LL
Man Kane aint never wrote for LL..U buggin
Treach is mad funny! He reps how we spose to...respect for his peeps
The way Nore says L-L Cool J like on Rock the Bells is dope. That’s gotta be the queens shit
Cool J career and BDKane lyrics
LL said that Kane is his favorite emcee of all time.
@@donellbadgett5221 no he didn't, LL said Melle Mel
lol just gonna skip the fact that they didn’t give LL 2 votes smh
They'll learn soon
LL Cool J The man is a legend no doubt Salute Big kane tho
I got a twist…. At 1st thought Kane was number one… But here is the wrinkle… LL went at Moe D, Ice T, MC hammer and Canibus… Kane was throwing subliminals at people no direct shots
LL💯
both!
Lyrically Id givenit to Kane
Big Daddy Kane hands down and I love L
You can’t go wrong with either or because they both changed the game in hip hop musically 💯 now if longevity plays a role in this, LL COOL J IS THE OBVIOUS ANSWER!!!
They our Dad's of Hip Hop cmon Man .😁
Damn. Love Kane but LL was great at everything...who can forget LL dissin Mike Tyson in his prime. Tough.
90s! Pete Rock and CL, DITC, Beatnuts, Common, De La, Cube, Redman,WU, Mobb Deep, Biggie, Pac, Alcoholiks, Del, Souls of Mischief. I could keep going but I choose to stop😂😂😂
Two legends from the 80's
Kane! his word play is elite. Crazy to know he's younger than LL. I felt he would've evolved his artistry in the 90s, he definitely would been just as big like LL or even Jay Z mainstream wise.
Eric Sherman from EPMD is great cause he likes to analyze before he chooses. He’s a good thinker and choose correct because this one isn’t easy.
Ll cool j for me all day
Song for song, LL and Kane said as much when asked if they were to do a versus. But Lyrically, BDK would Destroy LL and it ain’t even close! Btw, LL said Kane was his Favorite emcee. So that’s what it is. 🤷🏾♂️💯
LL all day come on love kane though
Heavy on Kane! All day no debating
I respect both but I'm going with Kane. But I do respect Cool.j
My favorite, LL Cool J. However, Kane is also worthy. 😀😀
S. ED is a big-time greasy hater...
LL COOL J
LL Cool J the first rapper had us singing to the girls so LL. I started listening to Rap because of LL.
Kane was dope tho.💯
I'M TAKING A SHOT EVERY TIME THOSE ARE MY TWO TOP MCS OF ALL TIME
LL is the original GOAT.
They ain't counting right. Crazy leggs said LL and its still 1.
People from Brooklyn and Queens should be disqualified from answering the question😂😂
I especially liked the.1984 to 1990 LL
LL Cool J
Get David Banner on Drink Champs.
Kane! Hands down. The first fast beat rapper to rip sreads.
Kane from BK so I gotta go with him. But LL got the catalog on smash for many many era's.
But I will never forget what Canibus did to him. Idgaf what nobody say.
Love Kane ain’t no half stepping I remember that whole song I don’t think I remember any of LL Cool J songs, but LL got the hits and the career
Would love to see that Versuz
I might put Kane above Cool J. lyrically, but Uncle L. was that Terminator assembly line B-Boy Battle M.C. that every young dark and light-skinned brotha wanted to be!!! I was lucky enough to see Kane be one of the acts to warm it up for L. on the Nitro Tour in St. Louis in '89..or was it '90? It's all a blur!!
THIS should have been the Versus...not Kane vs. KRS-One. This would have been more fitting - both are battle rappers, both have that sex appeal with the ladies. Both had their respective show D.J.s in Mister Cee and Cut Creator! They dropped the ball on that one!
Coo, Cool J all the way! Out 1st, longer career, could hang with BDK lyrically, still relevant, Murdergram Deux, I'm Bad, Rock the Bells "Original" sooo many reasons.
LL Cool J Has A More BROADER Catalogue... Peace To Kane But LL Is Still At It And His Stage Performances Are Fucking CRAZY!
This is a good one but LL was my first favorite rapper
Both, but you have to choose one & I will tell you this with no hesitation there is no way in the world I would pick Kane over LL, LL is the Goat for a reason if you want to go off of lyrical ability alone I will tell you LL lyric for lyric can stand with anybody but here’s where nobody is paying attention, that’s not the only criteria the brother had, LL could flat out right hits/songs LL at times wasn’t even competing against other Rappers this dude was competing against R&B, Rock & love ballads you can’t name another Rapper with a catalog like his he stands alone & let’s go battle to his battle raps, they talk about Kendrick Lamar’s dis track was the first to become a hit and go world wide !!! They lied because Moma said knock you out was years before that and that song was every where stop the cap 🧢
Mama Said Knock U Out won a Grammy! Who does that with battle rap!? Well, Kendrick may be the first to do so in a while lol
@@TrueSankofa7 that’s what I want to hear, exactly all I’m saying is let’s not forget who done it first
LL !
LL was out here ending careers...
Kane was that dude back in the day, he had Madonna crying for him when she was the material girl
LL COOL J is the best rapper of the 80s
Goat!