Toyota’s solid-state EV & LFP battery plans are a Disney fairy tale
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- Toyota’s solid-state EV & LFP battery plans are a Disney fairy tale
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I've been hearing the rumor that Toyota will commercialize solid state batteries within a couple of years. The problem is that I've been hearing that for the past 10 years. Thanks Sam for calling BS, a BS.
Toyota is used to lying
Toyota has not said anything official. We will know when there is a specific factory making specific batteries for a specific model. And there is no need to rush when their production capacity is full. There is so much demand for hybrids.
Solid State batteries are prohibitively expensive to produce. That's why you don't see them in EV's.
Toyota will probably use Hydrogen powered robots to build the batteries 😂
Toyota is going to use heavy duty carbon zinc batteries powered robots to produce the fastest dream battery.
This Dude is Unreal How He's Posting 300+ Videos a Month. the real Grind
i only watch 15 secs of... 4 or 5 LOL
He is ai
Let's hope it's all real🧐🧐
Full time job at this point. I admire his work rate.
He looks like a cartoon character.
Oh what a feeling…gas-light-ing! 🤷🏻♂️
Largest car company in the world that was the first to come out with a hybrid car now makes VAPORWARE.
Toyota simply doesn't want for EVs to succeed. They want to keep making their garbage hybrids.
@@johnzach2057how are their hybrids garbage?
@@JDMSwervo2001 They are Kodak, VHS, Nokia and so on
@@LonglingEriksen if they’re so bad why do their hybrids sell like crazy in the US?
@@JDMSwervo2001maybe are good for now but not the future 🎉 EVs will become indispensabile once for all with good battery and range ✅ not to forget we can use electricity from those batteries ✅
Next year. It will blow your mind. You’ll see! 😂
Toyota sales have held up very well. Last year increased to 11.2M BUT in Toyota largest market, China, sales are dropping off a cliff as China is now over 50% EVs. This will drop in sales will be spreading to the rest of the world.
Toyota's largest and most important market in terms of volume and monetary value has always been North America. Of the 8.63 million units Toyota sold overseas in CY2023, 2.61 million was in North America.
And China is not 50% BEVs. A significant portion of the "New Energy Vehicle" in China is Plug-in Hybrids. Most Chinese automakers actually don't money selling pure-BEVs in China. Chinese automakers are in a bloody race to the bottom to kill off the competition, foreign or domestic. Most foreign automakers would rather lose marketshare than sell cars at a loss.
Toyota's Jan-Aug 2024 sales in China was around 1.08 million vehicles. Toyota's China sales was down about 10-15% from the previous year. But because the Chinese government forced a 50:50 Joint-Venture with a State-owned-Enterprise, the financial impact or benefit is naturally half. And most of the production takes place in Chinese factories, which means Chinese workers will be the most impacted from changes in sales trends.
The Chinese car market is not 50%.
Put the crack pipe away.
When will the SEC step in and penalize Toyota's management for deliberately, knowingly lying to their investors?
When the bribes stop coming.
Great video. Clearly Toyota is spewing nonsense.
You are going to look silly in *2018* when this comes out!
😂😂
Yeah Mr Sam r u under the Toyota illusion that they will flip their business model and CCCRRRRRUUSSSSHHH TESLA …..timeframe to be determined at a later date HA
😂 lol
😂😂
He already looks silly to me everyday absolutely full of exaggerated properganda, EV sales are tanking but he says they are rising, full of half truths and lies.
Totyota has a concept of plan for solid state batteries.
salt based batteries seem the most innovative and makes sense.. plus lasts in colder temps and extreme hotter...
Nice Donaldism😅
More likely Toyota has an MOU to engage a design firm to create a concept of plan for how to create an action plan for building solid state batteries. ; )
Yes for last 10 yrs Toyota been claiming
@@dertythegrower the density is nothing near lithium based cells
WOW ToYoda has a phantasy in a while just wait and see ! Meanwhile Toyota workers are in Jeopardy making junk as ordered by Toyoda !
Congrats for the great content lately. At first I assumed you were just another fanboy, but I was pleasantly surprised about the broad of your content after listening to a few of your vids. Few people follow Chinese evs i think it could be a good niche. Anyway, keep up the good work and keep on discussing non Tesla stuff, we need more Tesla neutral content and more non Tesla stuff. From a Tesla shareholder.
This has intrigued me for quite a while now, here in NZ Toyota seem to be able to do no wrong, their hybrids are selling very well. This is ok for now, but it will drop off a cliff when full evs that have a decent range that is acceptable to modern day motorists, etc, etc, are available at a lower cost and with a longer warranty. I own an MG ev and it has been faultless for the last 2 years, I used to own a Toyota ute a few years ago, and it was great as well. We are going through the biggest upset in automotive industry since the model T put the horse and cart out of the race. To me here in NZ I think we will be driving around in Chinese utes and cars in the future. Why? because we do not have any local manufacturing in this arena, and we are close to China, and our trade depends on China, so we do not need to put up any trade barriers like the US and Europe etc.
I live in a much larger country USA, strange that you can’t get adequate range in New Zealand, but I can. I have a 2022 Tesla model three long range. I have owned 2.25 years and have 61,000 mi.s on it. At 73 years old August 2023 we drove 4000 miles.s round trip to Flagstaff Arizona in a little less than seven days. Just don’t see the range anxiety that people who don’t own a Tesla are complaining about.
I almost spit out my coffee with your cheeky bipolar comment. 😂❤
ROFL! Same! I was wheezing after an induced coughing fit. Bipolar Batteries - they have their up days and their down days. Describes Toyota's schizophrenic behaviour when it comes to making announcements about announcements about reveals about ongoing plans. Thanks Sam!
NiCds.. No one uses them for vapes, power tools, flashlights, eBikes, eScooters...
Toyota are probably the only company using them for *anything*.
And yet my mates Prius has them in and the car is 10 years old and they don't burn like Lipo....who would have guessed
NiMH is not NiCd, to the best of my knowledge.
My experience with working with Japanese is that facts are arrived at by consensus not purely by data. Once they arrive at consensus there is no mention of contrary actual facts. Later if this doesn’t work they will arrive at a new consensus. Strange but somehow this works for them.
Sounds just like their hydrogen fantasy 🤭
They are Deep in the sunk cost of doom pit.
Don't tell that to the Australian guvament, they are spending billions of taxpayer dollars into hydrogen as they believe it is the future for the world.
You're the best Aussie.
Not only are the Chinese beating Toyota at the EV game but they are also thrashing the Japanese in the educational field as well because there are 2 Chinese universities in the world's top 20 universities in the latest Times rankings but no Japanese universities made it onto that list.😅
Those are some pretty tall orders....meanwhile, Tesla, and even other car companies, are scaling up with batteries that are 'good enough' for today, all the while improving for tomorrow.
Imagine what Toyota's Phevs could be today if they knew how to make a real one. If they would use bigger LFP batteries with one of their bulletproof engines. You could get @ 100 miles of EV range before the engine kicks in.
A Toyota EREV would be great but they don't even make any meaningful number of their current offering of PHEVs.
Given how stupid Toyoda and Toyota have been for the last 10 years plus, do we trust them not to screw up even if they did have a magical solid state battery? I don't. As a result, I abandoned Toyota for Tesla and I am happy as a clam, never going back. Toyota used to be my favorite car company.
Toyota is giving false hope.😂
Toyota just. Receive us2.4b funding from Japan government to setup battery plan. Let’s see what they come up with
A Disney fantasy probably.
Kind of like Snow White.
What you won't give credit for is that Toyota's prediction that EVs won't take more than 30% of market share of combined EVs and ICE car sales is a lot closer to the truth than what taxpayer funded governments originally forecasted.
Poor old Toyota its got me tossed how they have missed the future clean energy boat!!!
They are watching it sink from the shore and saying 'I tried to warn you'
1000 miles in one battery - that's heck of amount of energy in that battery!! It better not be "shortable"
All vehicle battery packs aren't not a single battery.They range from hundreds of individuals cells all of which have thermal cut outs.And fuses. Still, a battery pack is an extremely dangerous thing to muck about with.If you don't know what you re doing sign.As a petrol tank full of petrol
You have to ask the question, why a solid state battery would be any better than one based on polymer electrolytes.
Its similar to asking whether a ceramic cup is any better than a plastic cup. They are both cups, both do the job.
The difference is the plastic one is lighter and cheaper. The functionality is the same, but the ceramic one is more expensive and could possibly be considered classier.
Sam are you actually in Newcastle, you posted this at about 1:30am AEST (Newcastle tine). I am at Lake Mac. Keep up the good work. I own an MG3 Hybrid. GD
toyata has the ball ,, now lets see if they can run!!
Let's see if they can score!
FUMBLE!!!
From what I understand the main barrier to solid state battery manufacturing the cost they may be able to produce a car that uses batteries but are they actually going to make a profit off of them? That’s the key thing? That’s the key thing facing legacy Auto they just can’t compete on the cost which Chinese And Koreans.
This is amazing!We all love Toyota,they are realy the best!
Surely GM rivals Toy in terms of false promises.
Hehe.. it’s neck and neck
True, but Tesla ofter over-promises and under delivers or delivers 6 years after promised. They just started on evs much sooner.
Toyota is a DOS tech 80s company 😂
And that’s why we like them
It's hardy coincidence that the world's most successful auto maker is the one that was the most skeptical of EVs.
@3:34, Toyota is still pushing NiNH because they own the patent and built a big factory that produces NiNH battery. Toyota doesn’t want to pay licensing fee to CATL for producing LiFePO4 batter -- because of pride, nationalism, of money.
The crazy part is that while they push the “lithium ion are bad for the environment” narrative, they’re all in on NiMH, which studies show has about twice the environmental impact of similarly sized Li-ion batteries. They’re full of crap top-to-bottom.
Toyota is great with bang bang piston technology but they have no idea what electrons are. Definitely not at the moment!
Toyota lost touch with reality a long time ago.
You should probably compare the Toyota road map to the CATL or BYD road map for batteries for comparison. It really shows how behind the times they are. I agree that by building a factory they could probably build a battery cheaper than they buy it for, but the sunk cost of that facility might decade decades to recover. So in reality, it isn't really cheaper at all. The incumbent ICE car makers are in real trouble. They are better off creating an EV SPV and dumping billions into it and let that compete while they figure out how to organize an orderly and profitable wind down on of ICE production. The "two timeline" strategy just never works.
There trying to maintain that maintenance goldmine with disposable batteries like Duracell and energizer😅
Toyota started developing their hybrids in 1992, so Toyota has had 32 years to develop EVs. In 2010 Toyota invested $50 million in TESLA and in a join venture with TESLA made the Rav4 EV. So, they have had FIRST ROW SEATS on how to make EVs with Elon Musk. Toyota sold their TESLA stock too early, missing out on making $1 billion in profit there. Toyota continues to push hydrogen. I saw a hydrogen bus in Tokyo. It cost $1 million . . . for 1 bus. Toyota the next Kodak.
Whenever I see lab personnel staring at test tubes and generally doing phony lab work, I know the company is useless
Hmmm you are talking about the company that also claims that hydrogen will take over but is doing nothing about getting the hydrogen to market
Toyota has become that fella in the pub who constantly bullshits. Every time he speaks people roll their eyes and walk away
Funny, I always get that same feeling when I watch a Viking video.
Anyone that genuinely believes what Toyota say should get themselves a hydrogen car. It would be a great investment 🤣
Toyota actually understands the market
@@JDMSwervo2001 Toyota didn't seem to understand that no-one would want hydrogen. They didn't understand the Chinese market either, their biggest market, sales are down 27% there. Sales even fell 14% in Japan. Ouch
wow... it's 1930 and I'm waiting for an LS engine with a super charger...THATs when we'll a horseless cartage
BI Live said the solid state batteries are for the Prius.😅😂
When a Chinese company releases a PR statement about a fantasy battery you are all for it singing its praises. But if someone else does it its a Disney fantasy.
Don’t Toyota see the future as Hydrogen Fuel Cells?
They sell 1 mln cars a month now, almost 12 mln a year. I think they do something right?
That’s an awful lot
of unnecessary pollution.😢
Toyota has 2 EVs under development (SUV anda sports crossover). and they are not expected for years. Where are Toyota going to use the solid state batteries?
They didn't sue you because they don't know you exist.
Recently I got lots of TH-cam recommended videos about Toyota CEO announced break through in their engine technology that will wipe out the entire EV industry... There are so many of those channels..but all of them seems new with only few hundred subscribers tops... Look like they engaged in some propaganda to prop up their share price 😂
They should have just stayed with tailpipe cars until they hand something good. The bZ4x just tarnished the brand and cost them sales of profitable models.
Toyota, the "Trump medicare" of car companies... concepts of a plan...
Well done Toyota burn more cash than before
Toyota are talking BS
Reminds me of tesla`s Robo taxi the were supposed to be on the road in 2020 or the $40,000 criber truck.
They say 2027 so that people wait longer and in the meantime buy their stupid hybrids.
Toyota seem to constantly make vapourware announcements. Pump and dump anyone? That is what it sounds like.
1000 miles or 1600 km?
I'll rush to get one asap.
Not going to wait another 10-20 years.
1000 miles is no where near enough for me, unless it charges in 2 minutes and the chargers are as convenient as gas pumps, and then range is a non issue.
Toyota s own Clean Diesel under development
Toyota is ALSO making a hydrogen generating car that will end EVs. I know this because it’s on the internet. I guess it’ll be selling this winter in time for Christmas.
👍👍
A new age woke type of Disney tale or an old school og still somewhat wholesome Disney tale? 😀
Toyota is amazing,Game over for Tesla!
I thought that Toyota were hanging their hat on Hydrogen?
A problème with solid state battery it s their life cycle and barely no one is focus on it.
High Energy density IS not thé only Factor,.... life cycle matter and they are no where near
Toyota where dreams are……made…. Eventually….Maybe
In ten years Toyota will be half as good as todays car makers
It’s all smoke and mirrors 😂.
NOT AGAIN what will it be next week. I was told 1. Don't believe a word Toyota say 2. Believe Toyota only when they manufacturer it for mass production
Let’s see what the EV industry has lied about so far:
EVERYTHING.
But I’m sure that will tell the truth about solid state batteries.
lmao
Toyota never says NO, they prefer to say " we study".
Are they a university??? or a business??? Or heading to bankruptcy????
Sad to see
BREAKING NEWS. Toyota to announce a new form of vehicle fuel. Liquid Helium. They claim the helium engine is not only lighter but has massive 'inert'-ia. 🤣😂😆 They seem to want to claim almost anything.
I thought their Hail Mary has been hydrogen
I will never, ever need a car with a 1000 mile range.
Kaizen forever, this not JIT but JAJ (just a joke)
If their solid state batteries are anywhere between a few months to the next 100 years they consider this as a valid claim as a technology to be released “soon”.
Show me the money (battery)!!! Toyota has no credibility of any kind when it comes to EVs (they could not even get the wheels of the BZ4X to stay on, or at least that was the story they peddled, they had to recall all the cars sold. Most likely was something much more serious), so until the bring something to the market it is just vaporware.
Get you story straight BZ4X Was assembled by BYD for Toyota.BYD received a faulty batch of parts causing the wheels to come off.This was fixed under Warranty.But when The Steering Wheels started falling off Teslas while driving everybody went quiet.The US Automobile Safety Branch still looking into it.Toyota is Number One in the World for best Fit and Finish of Vechiles.
@@rickchiplin4970 It is true that there were 2 (two) Model Ys that had a problem with the steering wheels (which is unacceptable), and there is an open NHTSA open investigation. It is irrelevant who made the BZ4X. It has a Toyota badge. It is supposed to have gone through the Toyota Quality Assurance Program. Not to mention the 100K Tundras and Lexus that had to be recalled to have an entire engine change. Toyota admitted cheating in Japan with the certification for Corolla Fielder, Corolla Axio and Yaris Cross. So you might want to temper your claim on Toyota Quality and honesty. All car manufacturers had issues that is not the point. The issue is does Toyota have any credibility when it comes to EVs. Clearly not yet.
rip toyota
Every conservative I know believes it
Bi polar manic depressant sounds like my last ex👎👎👎
Aim high……..🤣
But you told us they were real.
To be fair, Toyota has made a great decision by waiting until technology is more mature. Most car companies are going under due to economical constraints for being investing in electric cars.
Toyota and electric Viking have two things in common. They both talk shit about things that won’t happen
What exactly is suppoed to be the benefits of Solid State batteries?
It should have higher energy density up to 1440 Wh/kg, less flammable faster charging and longer life.
If this is the case why waste time on hydrogen
Flight
It's simply impossible to replace all cars and trucks with BEVs. There isn't enough batteries nor electricity to make that happen. Thus, hydrogen research is for post-hybrid era when oil and nat gas is phased out from the industry/economy.
Companies like Toyota think in decades. FYI, hybrid research started in the 1970s during the last Oil Crisis, and Toyota started designing its Prius in 1992 with the improvement in rechargeable battery technology. The research is why Toyota can offer hybrid vehicles around the same cost as regular vehicles. Fast forward to 2024, now 40-50% of new car sales for Toyota and Honda are hybrids.
Lol. Theres too much electricity that power companies are going to start penalising people for sending electricity to the grid.@yo2trader539
@@tysonfinn1470 It really depends on where you live. I remember when California warned of not charging due to power shortages.
@@yo2trader539No they did not. California has problems with wildfires and old power transmission lines (that should have been upgraded but PG&E spent it on bonuses and stock buybacks… yes it’s privatized and publicly traded). When conditions made wildfires more likely (severe drought + extreme temperatures), they did not require… just asked people to be mindful of when they charged (better rates at night anyway) and raise their thermostats to reduce A/C usage. Sometime rolling brown outs were used to mitigate fire risk caused by the old, hot high voltage transmission lines during a severe drought. Again… not a power shortage, a wildfire prevention measure.
just looking at Toyota's chart and they are way off with the pixies already.....
Toyota is the most profitable automaker in the world, so they're doing fine. Their trouble is there is too much demand relative to their production capacity. Over 40% of their new car sales world-wide are now hybrids. And they're also building a new US$14bn battery factory in North Carolina to increase production of hybrids, plug-in hybrids, and BEVs.
Quote..."Toyota long term debt for the quarter ending June 30, 2024 was $142.037B, a 6.68% increase year-over-year. "
Yes, their financiallease business, THESE CARS ARE FINANCED.@@rogerfroud300
by the way, VW debt, 280😂😂😂😂 billion
@@rogerfroud300 It's basic accounting. The debt is primarily for auto-loans. The more cars automakers sell, the more debt will appear on their Balance-Sheets. The equivalent amount will appear on the Asset-side of their B/S as well. Automakers are a bank, meaning their financing arm borrows money from capital markets (i.e. issue debt) to lend to consumers in the form of car loans. Toyota had record sales and profits in FY2023, and had record profits in 1QFY2024 (Apri-Jun 2024).
2020 year of Toyota hydrogen and solid state battery cars
You just gotta scale it dawg…
More legacy auto nonsense 😅
Right. Now do Optimus or even FSD robotaxis ...
I would guess if toyota buy and take control of the panasonic battery that will enable them to keep a lid on the "solid state battery" lie. If I head it right in 2027 toyota will release 3 different types of batteries. why? if solid state is the holy grail why release two other lesser types of batteries?
Nuts.
Hydrrgen cars with ss batteries
you forgot to read the fine print: on assumption CATL gifts us it's business, factories and technology
You just hate Toyota soooo much I`m going to buy a corolla Truck because much cheaper than the BYD shark not sold in the U.S,.