You got it right that the Church of Jesus Christ is the New Covenant Israel of God. How did you get Romans 11 wrong? Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews...
Lots to be thankful to the Lord here in your joyful and compelling presentation. Another view helping our understanding is that of Fulfilled Eschatology - a challenging view to be sure as many say it is heresy as it challenges part of the creeds. However, many are finding help with this view. I think Jesus returned as He said in Matt 24 and other places in AD70. See 2 Pet. 3 ff. The New Heavens and the New Earth are speaking about the New Heavens and New Earth in Spiritual form - the Church, where righteousness dwells by faith in Christ Jesus; after the transitioning from Old Covenant Israel which passed with the siege of Rome (and no new temple to be built)- See John Lightfoot's (framer of the WCF) paper re: New Heavens and New Earth, at American Vision or Peter Leithart's book on same subject. We are now and already in the new creation with Christ our Lord. Love br. David - Canada.
David, thank you for your encouraging words! While we do believe the new creation has begun now through Christ's resurrection and in the church's renewal (2 Cor 5:17), we don't believe that the new heavens and new earth have arrived yet. We would interpret 2 Peter 3 as referring to Christ's second coming which we still await and the new heavens and new earth as arriving in their fullness after Christ returns. Yet, when we are born again "new creation" has arrived in an already/not yet way (2 Cor 5:17). Am I understanding your comment correctly? Thanks for watching and interacting!
@@MarkNorthAveChurch Yes, I think you understand me correctly. However, I still encourage some study into what has been written about 2 Pet. 3ff. from many of the postmill Christian nationalist / theonomists like Doug Wilson Gary Demar, Jim Jordan, Gary North, RJ Rushdoony. (I'm not Presbyterian ;-)) Many of them are partial preterists as was RC. Sproul. However, among them there is much agreement about what New Heavens and New earth means and what is the passing of the Old Heavens and old Earth. Heaven and earth was the OT way of referring to rulers of kingdoms and administration thereof. Puritan John Owen and those like C H Spurgeon understood the Greek word for 'elements' (melting/burning-up) Stoicheia, used in the rest of the NT by Paul as reference to OC Israel Law and sacrificial system with days, moons etc. as in Colossians,. It was in reference to the Temple and Temple worship and all the OC feasts and types and shadows. I know we preterists are excluded as heterodox and heretics but so much being done in this space that should give us pause to reflect on what is being said. See Baptist like Zach Davis from Marked Tree Arkansas etc. From there we then would do well to review Matt 16:27, 28 and Matt24 and other similar from 1 and 2 Thess. Again, love br. David - Canada.
When does this happen? "“Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." - Matthew 19:28
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Act 3;19 points to Joel 2;23 rejoice… …the latter rain in the new moon (first day). The feg tree generation points to the summer festival Shawuot who is on the new moon of the fifth month (creators calendar). On the third day I will lift 🚠 you up, was the beginning of the reformation, the word of Yah, the Bible was given to his people, 550 years ago.
Is there a plan in this series to cover the tribulation? Does it exist in this view, or it does but it is not profitable to talk about? With the few times I have interacted here I have enough that I can agree with to recommend it to others. In my understanding, we have a calling to be ready for the Lord's return. This requires us to understand the times and be prepared in a way that the Pharisees were not prepared. Some of this calling is to have a knowledge of the word to test everything you hear. But the other is, the most turbulent time that the world will see, to be able to identify the eminent arrival of Christ. With how loud the postmil is on the internet, I continually measure your content against that and forget that this is just posting of a local body meeting. Thank you for the work that you do.
Excellent. Can you address Romans 11 where it speaks of the Jews, at least a remnant of them, being grafted back in? The Free Church of Scotland continuing holds to postmillenialism I believe for the most part and they say Jesus will return after we see this great and obvious large scale conversion. Though I’m not postmill, I can’t ignore this passage that points to an end time conversion of Jews. Thanks for these wonderful studies.
I'm so glad you asked about Romans 11! That is what we plan to address next Sunday, Lord willing. And just to let you know where we're going, Greg and I do believe in a great revival amongst ethnic Jews immediately preceding Christ's return in glory.
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. The new creation is the temple Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. (spiritual temple) Mat 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. the wedding feast was ready 2000 thousand years ago Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. it is all full-filled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. physical then spiritual
Brothers, you are way too lenient/charitable on these dispensationalists. You have no idea how much of a stumbling block these men and their teaching has been to the Gospel, especially in places where the Gospel is already being persecuted (ask anyone outside of America looking in on what American Evangelicalism has become and what a mess 1948 has caused). I am no prophet, nor son of a prophet, but I perceive the Lord will surely chasten for this--for associating His Name with a conflict over a paltry physical piece of land, and for the failure, as a whole, to rebuke such men openly AND worst of all, for robbing God's saints of (at least, the comfort) so much of what Christ died to procure--all these precious promises in the Law and Prophets. I would have loved to see you state your convictions more boldly, and to not spare even the likes of Dr. MacArthur.
Judging from the title of the video, one can assume you don't understand eschatology. You most likely have to contort the explicitly Jewish and Israeli context in which the end comes. I know nothing of your eschatology but can safely assume you have to get into some cockamamie theoretical contortions and gyrations to make your theories work. In light of prophecy and revelation.
Hey Kevin, I very much understand your frustration with what we've been teaching. And while I get why you label it replacement theology, I wouldn't use that label myself to describe our view. We see God fulfilling all His OT promises to Israel and the nations in Christ in the church. We do believe that "all Israel will be saved," but only through union with Christ and being part of His church.
In three days Jesus will rebuild the temple. Did Jesus give the framing time, when the holy saints will be resurrecting? Three days and three nights, and Jona was spitted out of the fish Dargon on the fourth day. Is this physical temple of religion who has to die first to be rebuilt? Go out of Babylon we read in Rev 18. To find Christ the king, we have to be born again. As soon Jesus is coming back his people will resurrecting. From the time of the first Temple Salomons till the end, is it 3 times 900 years.
You can watch the whole Progressive Covenantalism series in order here:
th-cam.com/play/PL4nNmjgYbRZ6ji7QJxyxIr90JbCcpK9JR.html
You got it right that the Church of Jesus Christ is the New Covenant Israel of God. How did you get Romans 11 wrong?
Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24.
In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews.
Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5.
Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost.
Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24.
Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church.
I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following.
"And then all Israel will be saved..."
I have heard another say the following.
"And all Israel will be saved..."
What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say?
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse.
How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future?
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews...
Excellent application of Stephen's sermon. Never saw that before. Amazing
Good to hear such wonderful teaching where the new covenant is fulfilling prophecy and what is fulfilled is not going to be repeated in the future.
Thanks for watching!
Nice. What a great series, I have it saved . It's as truth as you can get
Thanks for watching and for the encouraging words!
I haven't even watched it through yet, but I know it will be solid. I have greatly benefitted from you videos. Thank you.
Thank you so much for watching and the encouraging words!
Lots to be thankful to the Lord here in your joyful and compelling presentation. Another view helping our understanding is that of Fulfilled Eschatology - a challenging view to be sure as many say it is heresy as it challenges part of the creeds. However, many are finding help with this view. I think Jesus returned as He said in Matt 24 and other places in AD70. See 2 Pet. 3 ff. The New Heavens and the New Earth are speaking about the New Heavens and New Earth in Spiritual form - the Church, where righteousness dwells by faith in Christ Jesus; after the transitioning from Old Covenant Israel which passed with the siege of Rome (and no new temple to be built)- See John Lightfoot's (framer of the WCF) paper re: New Heavens and New Earth, at American Vision or Peter Leithart's book on same subject. We are now and already in the new creation with Christ our Lord. Love br. David - Canada.
David, thank you for your encouraging words! While we do believe the new creation has begun now through Christ's resurrection and in the church's renewal (2 Cor 5:17), we don't believe that the new heavens and new earth have arrived yet. We would interpret 2 Peter 3 as referring to Christ's second coming which we still await and the new heavens and new earth as arriving in their fullness after Christ returns.
Yet, when we are born again "new creation" has arrived in an already/not yet way (2 Cor 5:17). Am I understanding your comment correctly?
Thanks for watching and interacting!
@@MarkNorthAveChurch Yes, I think you understand me correctly. However, I still encourage some study into what has been written about 2 Pet. 3ff. from many of the postmill Christian nationalist / theonomists like Doug Wilson Gary Demar, Jim Jordan, Gary North, RJ Rushdoony. (I'm not Presbyterian ;-)) Many of them are partial preterists as was RC. Sproul. However, among them there is much agreement about what New Heavens and New earth means and what is the passing of the Old Heavens and old Earth. Heaven and earth was the OT way of referring to rulers of kingdoms and administration thereof. Puritan John Owen and those like C H Spurgeon understood the Greek word for 'elements' (melting/burning-up) Stoicheia, used in the rest of the NT by Paul as reference to OC Israel Law and sacrificial system with days, moons etc. as in Colossians,. It was in reference to the Temple and Temple worship and all the OC feasts and types and shadows. I know we preterists are excluded as heterodox and heretics but so much being done in this space that should give us pause to reflect on what is being said. See Baptist like Zach Davis from Marked Tree Arkansas etc. From there we then would do well to review Matt 16:27, 28 and Matt24 and other similar from 1 and 2 Thess. Again, love br. David - Canada.
Bravo 👏 👏 your teaching is very uplifting. Halleluja 💕 greetings from Tune West Community in Switzerland 🇨🇭
Thanks for watching!
When does this happen? "“Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel." - Matthew 19:28
For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Your teaching on this topic is great! You're sounding more and more like an anabaptist and I love it😂
Act 3;19 points to Joel 2;23 rejoice… …the latter rain in the new moon (first day). The feg tree generation points to the summer festival Shawuot who is on the new moon of the fifth month (creators calendar). On the third day I will lift 🚠 you up, was the beginning of the reformation, the word of Yah, the Bible was given to his people, 550 years ago.
550 years ago? What?
Do you have any teachings on the distinction Jesus is making between the Oral Law/Traditions of Men and the Law of God/Christ in the New Testament?
Is there a plan in this series to cover the tribulation? Does it exist in this view, or it does but it is not profitable to talk about? With the few times I have interacted here I have enough that I can agree with to recommend it to others.
In my understanding, we have a calling to be ready for the Lord's return. This requires us to understand the times and be prepared in a way that the Pharisees were not prepared. Some of this calling is to have a knowledge of the word to test everything you hear. But the other is, the most turbulent time that the world will see, to be able to identify the eminent arrival of Christ.
With how loud the postmil is on the internet, I continually measure your content against that and forget that this is just posting of a local body meeting. Thank you for the work that you do.
Excellent. Can you address Romans 11 where it speaks of the Jews, at least a remnant of them, being grafted back in? The Free Church of Scotland continuing holds to postmillenialism I believe for the most part and they say Jesus will return after we see this great and obvious large scale conversion. Though I’m not postmill, I can’t ignore this passage that points to an end time conversion of Jews. Thanks for these wonderful studies.
I'm so glad you asked about Romans 11! That is what we plan to address next Sunday, Lord willing. And just to let you know where we're going, Greg and I do believe in a great revival amongst ethnic Jews immediately preceding Christ's return in glory.
@angelawacky2716, we addressed Romans 11 this past Sunday here: th-cam.com/video/nUPftM-UwH4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching!
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
The new creation is the temple
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. (spiritual temple)
Mat 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
the wedding feast was ready 2000 thousand years ago
Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.
Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.
it is all full-filled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
physical then spiritual
Brothers, you are way too lenient/charitable on these dispensationalists. You have no idea how much of a stumbling block these men and their teaching has been to the Gospel, especially in places where the Gospel is already being persecuted (ask anyone outside of America looking in on what American Evangelicalism has become and what a mess 1948 has caused). I am no prophet, nor son of a prophet, but I perceive the Lord will surely chasten for this--for associating His Name with a conflict over a paltry physical piece of land, and for the failure, as a whole, to rebuke such men openly AND worst of all, for robbing God's saints of (at least, the comfort) so much of what Christ died to procure--all these precious promises in the Law and Prophets.
I would have loved to see you state your convictions more boldly, and to not spare even the likes of Dr. MacArthur.
Judging from the title of the video, one can assume you don't understand eschatology. You most likely have to contort the explicitly Jewish and Israeli context in which the end comes. I know nothing of your eschatology but can safely assume you have to get into some cockamamie theoretical contortions and gyrations to make your theories work. In light of prophecy and revelation.
Replacement theology crap
Hey Kevin, I very much understand your frustration with what we've been teaching. And while I get why you label it replacement theology, I wouldn't use that label myself to describe our view. We see God fulfilling all His OT promises to Israel and the nations in Christ in the church. We do believe that "all Israel will be saved," but only through union with Christ and being part of His church.
In three days Jesus will rebuild the temple. Did Jesus give the framing time, when the holy saints will be resurrecting? Three days and three nights, and Jona was spitted out of the fish Dargon on the fourth day. Is this physical temple of religion who has to die first to be rebuilt? Go out of Babylon we read in Rev 18. To find Christ the king, we have to be born again. As soon Jesus is coming back his people will resurrecting. From the time of the first Temple Salomons till the end, is it 3 times 900 years.