I often wish that the discussion could be so much more informative. What I mean is explain how top rated QBs go to certain teams and fall off the HC and QB get the lion share of the blame and credit both undeservingly…who are the developmental coaches say the names of the teams and developmental coaches that are great at helping the drafted QB transition successfully because it can’t always be the QB is not that dude right?
Why? Shannon is so annoying anymore… I wish he was more like he was when he first started but now he’s got the Steven A syndrome and has to be so overdramatic about evvvverything
@@cancelanime1507 he was trash before he got injured tho since he came in the league he got the most ints he been here 5 years he been hurt all of them?
I'm with Shannon on this one. If he was that guy, teams would try to get him, money it's not a issue if he's that guy. Good luck getting skip to admit he's wrong.
If baker was that good, just like Shannon has repeated many times they wouldn't have replaced him at all. Then to replace him with someone who has a good chance of being suspended a whole year. That speaks volumes of what they think of Baker.
Real talk when i broke i went straight to skip Payless twitter. Lets say i was HAPPY i just wished baker would have went to the Dallas skip would have bet his life they win superbowl 🤣
I love skip and Shannon it’s like listening to your uncles talk sports. All we missing is sone good BBQ and them with a couple beers. I would only come to family functions if they there lol
Skip Bayless wanna talk QB takes? Okay -"Tim Tebow is the next Brett Favre" -said Josh Freeman was a better QB than Cam Newton -"[Jerry Jones] should be more worried about taking Dak Prescott over Cardale" -"One day RG3 will be a better QB than Aaron Rodgers" -said Tebow had higher upside than Andrew Luck - said Johnny Manziel will be a bigger name in Cleveland than LeBron Shall I continue?
Skip says “now you’ve ticked me off” like someone is supposed to be intimidated, much less talking to a freak athlete that could crush him like a soda can 😂
I find it funny how Skip will constantly remind us of Baker's fourth best QB PFF ranking over the last 11 games of 2020, but when it comes to what PFF has to say about Aaron Donald, it's crickets. 🦗 🤣 For those who don't know, PFF gave AD the *HIGHEST* grade for a defensive player *five consecutive* years. 🤫
What Shannon should do is flip the whole “11 game stretch” on skip’s head by referencing Wentz’ 11 game stretch in 2017 before injury. MVP favorite of the best team in football. Wentz’s 11> Baker’s 11
The whole league missed out on Tebow for Blaine Gabbert and many other clown qbs, smh. Call me crazy for rather seeing Tebow get the nod over Paxton Lynch.
I'm a panther fan and I'm dying at this segment 🤣🤣🤣. We trash skip, just like baker just like sam. We trash. The whole team we bought to stink .... Shannon is spittin
Coming from a colts fan y’all’s roster is a lot better than you give it credit your defense was outstanding last year and that offense has weapons with moore and Anderson and a healthy cmc
@@Captainluck12 I think we have some good pieces, but like any business, it's success starts from the top down. Our owner is garbage, our coach therefore is garbage, and imo our team is now complete trash. Can't wait to get back on a winning path, and I hope we can pull something out this year....but I'm doubtful.
You’ve already lost the argument when you start using stats like big time throws. Like how can someone judge a big Time throw; y’all can keep the big time throws give me touchdowns,yards; and interceptions that’ll 90% of the time tell you a team/quarterbacks season
Last 4 years 124td 36int 17,000+ yards 67% comp and who is this qb which his numbers would make him a top 5 Qb over the last 4 years? Kirk Cousins so no numbers don’t always say it all but that being said Baker is average at best.... lol
@@jamesynfg LOL your right sorry English is my 3rd language and been into football last 8 years or so sometimes I miss stuff reading and need google translate a little to write
This is the funniest segment I seen all week they got me crying 😭 haha I love them !!! damn I missed y'all don't y'all ever go a whole week again what's wrong wit yall
*Most INTs since 2018* 56 - Baker Mayfield 52 - Sam Darnold 49 - Jared Goff 47 - Jameis Winston 46 - Josh Allen 44 - Matt Ryan This should be interesting.
I think I remember seeing that baker had quite a few more attempts as darnold. Edit: just looked it up and baker has 300 more passing attempts with 4 more int but he also did have better receivers so we’ll have to see how that plays out.
So let me get this straight LBJ, Aaron Rodgers, Floyd Mayweather...straight up LEGENDS are bums in Skip's eyes, but Baker Mayfield is the truth and untouchable in his opinion. C'mon this dude Skip is a Clown at this point...
I had to just double check.... Man its going to be rough for Baker them boys literally ran 2000+ yards that year, those are literally madden created player numbers like damn.
Umm, regardless of Sam starting you still need a backup QB... That's every team. It's funny only 10 QBs are good in the NFL according to everyone not in the NFL lmao
@@jeromegarcia5396 Because there is only 10-15 good QBs(or QB you build your franchise around), the rest are placeholders until you get that great QB. Like Tyrod Taylor when he was on the Bills, he took them to their first playoff game in 20 years.They saw the writing on the wall and got Allen.
@@jeromegarcia5396 They have a backup QB, they just drafted a QB. You don't trade for a guy like Baker to be backup, too much of a distraction with the attention from the media
14:54 But HOW did he fracture his shoulder and tear his labrum? He tried to be a hero and make a tackle off of an interception. A franchise quarterback does not take stupid risks like that. A pick-six is six points in a single game. The injury wrecked the season and maybe his career.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Panthers were like "Oh actually we're gonna start Matt Corral we just traded for Baker so he could compete with Sam Darnold for 2nd string" lolol
Skip just doesn't get it. Good teams have QBs it's why they are good. Bad teams don't. It's why they are bad. Baker is going to end up with a bad team. Because they are the only teams needing QBs. If Baker was a great QB as Skip says 19 million and a 5th round pick is a steal for any team needing a starting QB who is that guy. Sadly, Baker was barely average in Cleveland with an above average team. Baker actually stopped Cleveland from winning more. Put a good QB in Cleveland and they have more than 1 playoff win in 4 years. Cleveland has a very nice roster. Baker made it average at best.
When he was healthy with a healthy roster he won 11 games plus a playoff win and finished top 10 in QBR. Literally above average. Lol he got 7 wins his rookie year for a team that had 0 the previous year and 4 in the previous 3 years. You have the situation entirely backwards. Cleveland is a career destroyer. To perform above average there and win a playoff game is more of an accomplishment than doing the same with a team that was already winning games and going to the playoffs.
@@urusledge Career destroyer So if Deshaun gets the go ahead he’s not making the playoffs and will be on the trash heap in 3 years If I am hearing you correctly I think I am Career destroyer
@@alanF I'm saying you have to be well above average to look average there. Unless you actually believe that all 30+ QBs who got there before Baker were trash. 30+ 1st round draft picks and accomplished vets, all trash. So you can assume 30 guys were trash or you can assume 1 guy was a lot better than all of them. When considering two possibilities, it's best to go with the one that requires the fewest assumptions.
@@urusledge Both if you guys are right, Baker did make the Browns relevant but at the same time they were doing Incredible things with the roster. So it wasn’t just him, it was the Front office as well. The Browns lowkey had one of the best teams in the NFL and a GOOD quarterback woulda done wayyyy more than Baker has done with the weapons at his disposal.
@@urusledge Well, just about everyone here disagrees with you. And every team besides the Carolina Panthers disagrees with you. Baker is at best a game manager 😂
Skip: They stole Baker Mayfield Shannon: Supreme Court says that anything set to the side is considered community property. Also known as trash. Cleveland set him to the side. In other words Mayfield is trash. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@metalz7735 Watson got a totally different issue to worry about. He might be stupid for the situation he put himself into. And we don't know about his skill since we haven't seen him in action for a long time. But this is about Baker and Sam Darnold. Their issue is to prove themselves, and not look like 'trash'; prove doubters wrong. But it's going be hard. And definitely harder for Baker since this is a worse team than the Browns. Good luck
@@austinpenna no he said if he had a choice he would still take none of them. Skip lost cause sam darnold such a bust that him and baker now teammates 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Skip is the leader of the Baker Mayfield stans, followed by the entire Oklahoma Sooners fan base. Just wait until they realize Carolina is worse than Cleveland.
@@sonicsky4126 This goes to show you even these paid analysts don't know what they're talking about. Carolina improved their offensive line immensely.
11 games. 20 TD. 12 of them in 3 games. That leaves 8 in 8 games. Not very impressive breaking it down when he got them. 3 of those 11 games Baker threw for less than 170 a game. 1 game of 111. Not great breaking down those 11 games. Baker was barely average in those 11 games when you remove the 3, he passed for 12 TD. You could say he wasn't even average in those 8 games. I always use this. I pass for 800 yards and 6 TD in one game. Game 2 I pass for 100 and zero TDs. Added together I pass for 900 yards and 6 TD in 2 games. Look Godly, doesn't it? But look when I got them. It doesn't look nearly as Godly. That Baker's 11 games. Total wise they look pretty good. Then break them down they don't look very good at all. And that's with the number 1 rush attack in the NFL over those 11 games.
There were a lot of injuries on that Browns team and the offensive line was awful. Both running backs were out some with injuries, sometimes at the same time, and the play calling was not the best. As some have stated, the organization was obviously lacking. I don’t understand all the ultra criticism and the true motives for such. Seems over the top.
@@stunna5580 then he should have got surgery and missed the rest of the season cuz this past year makes people think different about him. If he came back healthy after the surgery then he might still start for the browns or still get traded but with maybe a higher price for him
So you if you take away his good game stats, he’s not good??? That’s why averages are used….! That’s like taking away his 8 bad games, and calling him one of the great qbs in the league
Skip: “Compare their numbers, compare their achievements. Does Sam Darnold win a playoff game?” Baker: Top 3 O-line, Top 3 RB room, Top 5 Defense Sam Darnold: Jets
Skips been wrong about Mahomes, Herbert recently. Also he was wrong about Dak and Tebow but he just forgets about all that 😂😂 he will at the end be wrong about Baker, Hurts and Murray but he will never admit it.
Carson's start with the Eagles was better than Bakers 11 game by far. But Skip ignores those game Carson played. Wentz 13 games 33-7. For Skip Wentz never played those game. Even thou Wentz is pretty close to 3 to 1 TDs to INT for a career. Baker isn't even 2 to 1.
If baker is so good why does Skip say he’ll need to move again? You’re telling me the situation has to be perfect for a former #1 OVR pick to succeed? Sounds like a GAME MANAGER to me🤷♂️😂
This show used to be must see TV, but after rewatching it, I can see why Shannon left. Skip interrupts the man all the time, and acts non interested when Shannon is speaking. Shannon made this show what it was, and outdebated Skip every episode.
Remember when Skip criticizing Odell for picking the rams over the saints. Skip was saying if he wanted to prove he’s that guy, he should’ve went to the saints instead of a stacked team like the rams. Now skip is saying Baker got unlucky cus he’s on a bad team and wanted him in a good team 😂
Of course Skip said that, because he didn't want Odell to go to a team with a competent qb and perform well and prove that Baker was the problem, which is exactly what happened when he went to the Rams
Undisputed Nation. I’ve been waiting for this topic. When I heard the Panthers traded for him, I just knew Skip was gonna be heated 😡. The team that Skip didn’t want Baker to go to, he’s now there. Skip was so damn sure that Baker was gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler, NOPE👎🏾!!!! didn’t happen. He was sure that the Seattle Seahawks would pick him up, NOPE 👎🏾!!!!!I love this 😂😂. Skip had a nuclear meltdown ☢️. Shannon killed him again on this one. 4th day in a row
Skip please stop with all these rookie wins tyrod won the first few games all ge has is the "11 game stretch" 😭😭 what did he do without Odell last season please tell us that and then tell us what Odell did without Baker.....✍🏾
Shannon is such a great analyst, always sticks to the point and topic in hand. Well done Shannon! Skipp my man, idk if it’s the age but somethings happening to your debates
Skip gets sooo triggered when Shannon piles it on his mancrush Baker 😂. Shannon was locked & loaded for this one. Poor Skip only has his feelings to go off of & no facts when defending Baker cause the fact is he stinks 🤣.
Baker played good that game and had WRs drop 2 crucial TDs that day. He’s far from a great QB but to blame Baker for Chad Henne game managing against the DEFENSE just makes you sound ignorant lmao
@@iitsbigboat Everybody and they moms knew the Browns defense in 2020 was basically Garrett, Ward, and a bunch of replaceable guys. They still kept the Chiefs to 16 points. As the QB you HAVE to win that game if the Chiefs score 16. They rarely ever score that few amount of points.
Not a Steeler or Baker fan. But Cleveland did win when it matters in the playoffs. Didn't help the Steelers turned it over every time they touched for in the first half. Cleveland actually held on to the win the game. Was it 41-34 at the end? With Cleveland getting 34 in the first half?
@@larrylindgren9484 I’m saying that playoff win was overrated when it comes to Baker specifically: it wasn’t baker so much as Chubb and Hunt on the ground dominating after Steelers kept giving it up in their own territory. Second half was just Steelers munching away at the lead after it got out of hand (although lowkey it was kinda impressive cause they got damn close) Big Ben threw over 500 yards and Browns didn’t do much offensively the whole second half other than run the ball. I think they ended up winning by 9 and Steelers had a chance to take the lead at one point but Tomlin decided to kick a punt instead of go for it on 4th down late in the game
Love this new trio....didn't think they could outdo the old one with the previous Jen but this one is nice too. The moderator has a job to segway portions of the show without interrupting or interjecting with their own ideas when their purpose on the show is to not speak their personal opinions but to handle the conversations when things start to override the time constraints. They've finally gotten the perfect one that meshes well with these two guys...Jenny Taft was the best one after this Jen
lol skip keep saying it’s ok for Cleveland to replace Baker with Watson because Watson is a top 3 qb when he last played, but continues to say Baker is good. Cleveland had multiple chances to get Watson in the 2017 draft before the Texans traded up for him. For them to pass on Deshaun in 2017, draft Baker #1 ovr the next year, then trade for Deshaun 5-6 years later is a bad look on Baker and the Browns.
@@alanF fr. I was mad my Bears picked Trubisky over Watson or Mahomes, but I’m glad we didn’t give everything up for Watson. I think Fields can be good if we build around him.
Skip must have dementia, because he keeps bringing up Baker’s rookie year, Shannon saying “SHAKE AND BAKE BABY!!!”, him forcing the ball to Odell (and then Skip starts knocking on wood for him), the one and only playoff game he won, his QBR of 91, and his torn labrum 😂😂😂. As soon as I hear the word Rookie, I’m like “oh my godddddd.”
Check out Club Shay Shay with Shannon Sharpe: foxs.pt/shayshay
I often wish that the discussion could be so much more informative. What I mean is explain how top rated QBs go to certain teams and fall off the HC and QB get the lion share of the blame and credit both undeservingly…who are the developmental coaches say the names of the teams and developmental coaches that are great at helping the drafted QB transition successfully because it can’t always be the QB is not that dude right?
Why? Shannon is so annoying anymore… I wish he was more like he was when he first started but now he’s got the Steven A syndrome and has to be so overdramatic about evvvverything
Nobody cares about the past skip!!!
O
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Uncle Shannon wipes the floor with Skip on EVERY Baker conversation. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Skip be talking about any and everything but baker numbers (current) when talking about current qbs just cant accept the fact he AINT THAT DUDE
@@darealauthenic Because he was injured all year
@@cancelanime1507 everyone gets injured next😂 he should’ve sat tf on the sideline then
@@yaboisoe178 Bad judgment go when to sit out doesn’t make you a bad quarterback, sick of that argument..
@@cancelanime1507 he was trash before he got injured tho since he came in the league he got the most ints he been here 5 years he been hurt all of them?
Never a dull moment with these two!!
🤣😂🤣
Skip just mad becuz UNK got him
@@chi-tahned8689 Unc always owning him lmao
JESUS coulda came available 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@trearmstead2960 dudes got upside ha
I'm with Shannon on this one. If he was that guy, teams would try to get him, money it's not a issue if he's that guy. Good luck getting skip to admit he's wrong.
If baker was that good, just like Shannon has repeated many times they wouldn't have replaced him at all. Then to replace him with someone who has a good chance of being suspended a whole year. That speaks volumes of what they think of Baker.
We won’t know who’s right or wrong until this next season
I agree
skip knows this but he's not goin down without a fight lmao
He had so much talent on the Browns, Baker did. Eh. Oh well. Maybe he gets better .....doubt it. Skip can be a butthole
I love it when they both arguing and screaming 🤣🤣🤣
Then Shannon gets quiet like nothing happened 😂😂
😭😂😂
@@devonwwe I guess he does that bcuz he does not take it personal.
That’s when it’s the best
Baloney
It’s my turn
Throw the flag
Holding holding 😄
@@alanF or when they start the show with Mountain Dew
Out of 5 years Skip can only talk about 11 dam games🤦♂️ but he's not a bust
RIGHT!!
By Skip’s logic Cam shouldn’t have any problems finding a job. Skip believes Baker should get a job based on previous accomplishments
He does the same thing with Ben Simmons
Baker must have only played 11 games in five years lol.
Skip doesn't know what he's talking about. He loves Baker so he thinks he's a good QB..
Been waiting for this since I saw the news yesterday lol
stgggg😂😂😂😂😂
same
Real talk when i broke i went straight to skip Payless twitter. Lets say i was HAPPY i just wished baker would have went to the Dallas skip would have bet his life they win superbowl 🤣
No cap
And it didn’t disappoint 🤣🤣
"you ticked me off"
GOOOD !!!! lmfaooo
3:23 SKIIIIUUUUP MAD!!! 🤣🤣🤣
18:23 Skip funny!
18:45 Skip & Shannon singing???!!!!
I love skip and Shannon it’s like listening to your uncles talk sports. All we missing is sone good BBQ and them with a couple beers. I would only come to family functions if they there lol
Skip Bayless wanna talk QB takes? Okay
-"Tim Tebow is the next Brett Favre"
-said Josh Freeman was a better QB than Cam Newton
-"[Jerry Jones] should be more worried about taking Dak Prescott over Cardale"
-"One day RG3 will be a better QB than Aaron Rodgers"
-said Tebow had higher upside than Andrew Luck
- said Johnny Manziel will be a bigger name in Cleveland than LeBron
Shall I continue?
THIS IS THE COMMENT RIGHT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!
RG3 could have beeen if he didn’t get injured!! He was raw
You had to be there for the Johnny Manziel fiasco 😂😂
@@HpcZclan He would've never been better than Rodgers
Skip: You just pushed me over the edge Shannon: 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😭
“ I guess he’s running around with no ACL “ 😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️ Skip is funny af lmao
Skip "who would you want Baker or Bradford"
Shannon "would you rather get ran over a dump truck or a Mac truck, its all the same thing.🤣🤣🤣
@Byron Neely
Had buzzards circling over Skip 💀
😂😂
😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That part had me rolling lmao.
Luv It
Skip says “now you’ve ticked me off” like someone is supposed to be intimidated, much less talking to a freak athlete that could crush him like a soda can 😂
ikr lol
“Good” 😂😂
Yeah I heard that too and it made me lol. I said ut oh Shannon better start shaking in his boots.
Ticked me off
Now watch me rip this bag of chips
Mountain dew can lol
I find it funny how Skip will constantly remind us of Baker's fourth best QB PFF ranking over the last 11 games of 2020, but when it comes to what PFF has to say about Aaron Donald, it's crickets. 🦗 🤣 For those who don't know, PFF gave AD the *HIGHEST* grade for a defensive player *five consecutive* years. 🤫
To quote Roman Reigns. He's not a Good Guy, he's not a bad guy. He's just a guy
Skip only used something if it sort of proves he's right. If it proves him wrong, he ignores PPF.
What Shannon should do is flip the whole “11 game stretch” on skip’s head by referencing Wentz’ 11 game stretch in 2017 before injury. MVP favorite of the best team in football. Wentz’s 11> Baker’s 11
Whatever fits his twisted agenda.
Man argues like a 6 year old 🤷🏽♂️😂😂😂😂
14:40 Shannon's face is PRICELESS. Even he is sick of hearing this same tune from Skip....
Is this a good move or bad move for Carolina???
Shannon “It’s a lose lose for everybody!!!”
Sad thing is he ain't lying.
That answer is an instant classic 😆
😂😂. " I drank the Kool aid , my stomach hurt". Shannon be having me dead yo. 😂😂💯
Shannon has been killin Skip this week
Shannon been cooking Skip since they resumed he had to dig out shannons take from years ago .. pure entertainment 🤣
😂
Shannon hitting him with haymakers on this one 😂
this segment proved skip always wanna be right even when he is wrong 😂😂
“This a lose lose for everybody” 😂
"that aint no tight window throw"😂😂😂
Skip lost his reputation with Tebow and Manziel nobody takes anything serious he says anymore
The whole league missed out on Tebow for Blaine Gabbert and many other clown qbs, smh. Call me crazy for rather seeing Tebow get the nod over Paxton Lynch.
Skip has been losing every argument for the past 3 weeks Shannon really been moping the floor with him
Longer then that 😂😂😂 goes back to him defending baker & criticism Odell
This is my all time favorite Undisputed episode and intro. They went ballistic! Skip damn near lost his mind and Shannon didn’t hold back 😭
I'm a panther fan and I'm dying at this segment 🤣🤣🤣. We trash skip, just like baker just like sam. We trash. The whole team we bought to stink .... Shannon is spittin
Coming from a colts fan y’all’s roster is a lot better than you give it credit your defense was outstanding last year and that offense has weapons with moore and Anderson and a healthy cmc
@@Captainluck12 I think we have some good pieces, but like any business, it's success starts from the top down. Our owner is garbage, our coach therefore is garbage, and imo our team is now complete trash. Can't wait to get back on a winning path, and I hope we can pull something out this year....but I'm doubtful.
You’ve already lost the argument when you start using stats like big time throws. Like how can someone judge a big Time throw; y’all can keep the big time throws give me touchdowns,yards; and interceptions that’ll 90% of the time tell you a team/quarterbacks season
Last 4 years 124td 36int 17,000+ yards 67% comp and who is this qb which his numbers would make him a top 5 Qb over the last 4 years? Kirk Cousins so no numbers don’t always say it all but that being said Baker is average at best.... lol
"big time throws".........absolutely baffling 😂😂😂😂😂 WTF?
They might as well have a stat called “dawgs per minute/possession.”
@@pristinefitness9268 who said it always did? The comment literally says “90% of the time” lmfao
@@jamesynfg LOL your right sorry English is my 3rd language and been into football last 8 years or so sometimes I miss stuff reading and need google translate a little to write
Love when my uncles arguing 😂😂😂😂😂
Ain’t no way Skip actually showed all 20 touchdowns over the 11 game span 😭
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Skip can’t lose in those Jordan’s he’s wearing !!!
@@YJP23 that’s a lie! 😂😂
Dude, he is addicted to that stretch.
😂😂😂😂😂
This is the funniest segment I seen all week they got me crying 😭 haha I love them !!! damn I missed y'all don't y'all ever go a whole week again what's wrong wit yall
😂😂😂💯
i’m with you bro 💯
Fr Shannon really got skip mad over saying he hung his reputation on Baker lmao
Shannon got skip on the ropes, going for the knock out!😂😂
*Most INTs since 2018*
56 - Baker Mayfield
52 - Sam Darnold
49 - Jared Goff
47 - Jameis Winston
46 - Josh Allen
44 - Matt Ryan
This should be interesting.
I think I remember seeing that baker had quite a few more attempts as darnold.
Edit: just looked it up and baker has 300 more passing attempts with 4 more int but he also did have better receivers so we’ll have to see how that plays out.
Josh Allen is overrated
@@Vault20boy You done lost yo mind.
Where’s Wentz on that list?
@@green_eye_shy_guy Wentz has 36 INTs
Skip: "Did Deshaun Watson become available for those guys?"
Shannon: "I don't care, Jesus could've come available"
😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 that fool say jesus come available bust laught
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Was waiting for someone else to catch that. Shannon is a savage!!!
😂😂😂🤣
So let me get this straight LBJ, Aaron Rodgers, Floyd Mayweather...straight up LEGENDS are bums in Skip's eyes, but Baker Mayfield is the truth and untouchable in his opinion. C'mon this dude Skip is a Clown at this point...
Going 51-0, being the 2 greatest NBA player with 4 chips is ok. But 11 games with an ok QBR is the greatest thing.
Unlike Mad Dog Russo.
Don’t group Mayweather with those bums, TBE is in a class of his own.
Skip Bayless hitched his wagon to Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel that alone should discredit anything he says
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tebowesque 😃
And he said once “are you sure josh Allen is that guy?”
@@alanF lmfaooo 🤣 Like wtf is that!!!
Didn’t Skip say Johnny Manziel was gonna be bigger than LeBron in Cleveland 😭😭😭
No just Deshaun Watson.
Yes he did…🤣🤣🤣
@@jamesnelson5618 Yes he did 😑
I had to just double check.... Man its going to be rough for Baker them boys literally ran 2000+ yards that year, those are literally madden created player numbers like damn.
The Panthers has seen Darnold throw during mini camps and OTAs and they still wanted Baker. That says alot
Umm, regardless of Sam starting you still need a backup QB... That's every team. It's funny only 10 QBs are good in the NFL according to everyone not in the NFL lmao
Both aren't very good.
darnold still seeing ghosts
@@jeromegarcia5396 Because there is only 10-15 good QBs(or QB you build your franchise around), the rest are placeholders until you get that great QB. Like Tyrod Taylor when he was on the Bills, he took them to their first playoff game in 20 years.They saw the writing on the wall and got Allen.
@@jeromegarcia5396 They have a backup QB, they just drafted a QB. You don't trade for a guy like Baker to be backup, too much of a distraction with the attention from the media
14:54 But HOW did he fracture his shoulder and tear his labrum? He tried to be a hero and make a tackle off of an interception. A franchise quarterback does not take stupid risks like that. A pick-six is six points in a single game. The injury wrecked the season and maybe his career.
3:24 when skip started yelling I hollered in this restaurant lmaoooooo!!!!!
Skip just spoke of other QBs and I still don’t know what they have to do with this. Bruh this man is amazing lol
From going first overall in the draft to being worth a fifth round pick. 🤣
Still can’t believe that 😂😂😂
TUFF
Lmaooo the fall from grace can be heavy sometime
Browns had 0 leverage n that’s their fault
This is exactly why I barely pay attention to the draft now. No one has any idea what these guys will turn out to be
Shannon came out the gate savage AF
" It's a lose lose for everybody"
this man skip talking about everyone but baker😂😂😂
Thank you
I be SOOOOO LOST MAN 😂😂😂
Wouldn't it be hilarious if the Panthers were like "Oh actually we're gonna start Matt Corral we just traded for Baker so he could compete with Sam Darnold for 2nd string" lolol
😂😂😂😂💀💀
Skip just doesn't get it. Good teams have QBs it's why they are good. Bad teams don't. It's why they are bad. Baker is going to end up with a bad team. Because they are the only teams needing QBs. If Baker was a great QB as Skip says 19 million and a 5th round pick is a steal for any team needing a starting QB who is that guy. Sadly, Baker was barely average in Cleveland with an above average team. Baker actually stopped Cleveland from winning more. Put a good QB in Cleveland and they have more than 1 playoff win in 4 years. Cleveland has a very nice roster. Baker made it average at best.
When he was healthy with a healthy roster he won 11 games plus a playoff win and finished top 10 in QBR. Literally above average. Lol he got 7 wins his rookie year for a team that had 0 the previous year and 4 in the previous 3 years. You have the situation entirely backwards. Cleveland is a career destroyer. To perform above average there and win a playoff game is more of an accomplishment than doing the same with a team that was already winning games and going to the playoffs.
@@urusledge
Career destroyer
So if Deshaun gets the go ahead he’s not making the playoffs and will be on the trash heap in 3 years
If I am hearing you correctly
I think I am
Career destroyer
@@alanF I'm saying you have to be well above average to look average there. Unless you actually believe that all 30+ QBs who got there before Baker were trash. 30+ 1st round draft picks and accomplished vets, all trash. So you can assume 30 guys were trash or you can assume 1 guy was a lot better than all of them. When considering two possibilities, it's best to go with the one that requires the fewest assumptions.
@@urusledge Both if you guys are right, Baker did make the Browns relevant but at the same time they were doing Incredible things with the roster. So it wasn’t just him, it was the Front office as well. The Browns lowkey had one of the best teams in the NFL and a GOOD quarterback woulda done wayyyy more than Baker has done with the weapons at his disposal.
@@urusledge Well, just about everyone here disagrees with you. And every team besides the Carolina Panthers disagrees with you. Baker is at best a game manager 😂
Skip: They stole Baker Mayfield
Shannon: Supreme Court says that anything set to the side is considered community property. Also known as trash. Cleveland set him to the side. In other words Mayfield is trash.
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If mayfield is trash what is Watson who won't even be playing this year
@@metalz7735 plz make sense
@@metalz7735 Watson got a totally different issue to worry about. He might be stupid for the situation he put himself into. And we don't know about his skill since we haven't seen him in action for a long time. But this is about Baker and Sam Darnold.
Their issue is to prove themselves, and not look like 'trash'; prove doubters wrong. But it's going be hard. And definitely harder for Baker since this is a worse team than the Browns. Good luck
Lol
I’m weak
When you see Shannon smile you know he finna say a goat analogy
“You’ve officially pushed me over the edge, you’ve ticked me off” 😂😂 im dead
“Jesus could’ve came available” 😂
Skip just goes rogue talking about nothing when he knows he’s lost.
Shannon lost lmao he couldn’t even answer who he’d rather have at quarterback because he knows the answer is baker
@@austinpenna no he said if he had a choice he would still take none of them. Skip lost cause sam darnold such a bust that him and baker now teammates 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@henricaldwell8346 baker mayfield is a better quarterback than Sam Darnold. The panthers upgraded for damn near nothing. They won the trade.
@@austinpenna bc it’s not relevant at all
@@austinpenna they won the trade cause they gave away a 5 round pick for a number 1 overall pick. Not cause he MIGHT be better than Sam lol….
I can’t decide if I hate it or love it when they make the topic about them and who was right or wrong and not just talk about the topic itself 😂
Skip is the leader of the Baker Mayfield stans, followed by the entire Oklahoma Sooners fan base.
Just wait until they realize Carolina is worse than Cleveland.
@@sonicsky4126 This goes to show you even these paid analysts don't know what they're talking about. Carolina improved their offensive line immensely.
11 games. 20 TD. 12 of them in 3 games. That leaves 8 in 8 games. Not very impressive breaking it down when he got them. 3 of those 11 games Baker threw for less than 170 a game. 1 game of 111. Not great breaking down those 11 games. Baker was barely average in those 11 games when you remove the 3, he passed for 12 TD. You could say he wasn't even average in those 8 games. I always use this. I pass for 800 yards and 6 TD in one game. Game 2 I pass for 100 and zero TDs. Added together I pass for 900 yards and 6 TD in 2 games. Look Godly, doesn't it? But look when I got them. It doesn't look nearly as Godly. That Baker's 11 games. Total wise they look pretty good. Then break them down they don't look very good at all. And that's with the number 1 rush attack in the NFL over those 11 games.
That’s a lot of reading no thank you 💅🏻
There were a lot of injuries on that Browns team and the offensive line was awful. Both running backs were out some with injuries, sometimes at the same time, and the play calling was not the best. As some have stated, the organization was obviously lacking. I don’t understand all the ultra criticism and the true motives for such. Seems over the top.
Y’all don’t think the shoulder had anything to do with that
@@stunna5580 then he should have got surgery and missed the rest of the season cuz this past year makes people think different about him. If he came back healthy after the surgery then he might still start for the browns or still get traded but with maybe a higher price for him
So you if you take away his good game stats, he’s not good??? That’s why averages are used….! That’s like taking away his 8 bad games, and calling him one of the great qbs in the league
Skip: “Compare their numbers, compare their achievements. Does Sam Darnold win a playoff game?”
Baker: Top 3 O-line, Top 3 RB room, Top 5 Defense
Sam Darnold: Jets
All these overrated. Baker had to run for his life, not enough time to throw. Some offensive line!
Skips been wrong about Mahomes, Herbert recently. Also he was wrong about Dak and Tebow but he just forgets about all that 😂😂 he will at the end be wrong about Baker, Hurts and Murray but he will never admit it.
And that exactly Why Chris mad dog Russo is the Better then Skip at this point anyways.
Well, he wasn't wrong about Hurts but he keeps a 5th wheel for the Hurts bandwagon when it benefits him since he is a Cowboys fan
I just know the 11 games will be brought up. If I took a test and got a 11/60 score, wouldn’t that mean I failed?
Carson's start with the Eagles was better than Bakers 11 game by far. But Skip ignores those game Carson played. Wentz 13 games 33-7. For Skip Wentz never played those game. Even thou Wentz is pretty close to 3 to 1 TDs to INT for a career. Baker isn't even 2 to 1.
Skip was on the verge of tears this whole segment bruh 😂😂
"IDC WHO CAME AVAILABLE. JESUS COULD'VE CAME AVAILABLE." Shannon a fool
Look at baker now 👀
"A broken clock is right twice a day"
I love when they go at it 🤣😭🤣
When he said "6 years ago" I thought he was gonna bring up Currys 2016 game 5, 6 and 7 stats
If baker is so good why does Skip say he’ll need to move again?
You’re telling me the situation has to be perfect for a former #1 OVR pick to succeed?
Sounds like a GAME MANAGER to me🤷♂️😂
Watched todays segment and all of the sudden, Carolina is a sleeper Wild Card pick says Skip
This show used to be must see TV, but after rewatching it, I can see why Shannon left. Skip interrupts the man all the time, and acts non interested when Shannon is speaking. Shannon made this show what it was, and outdebated Skip every episode.
Remember when Skip criticizing Odell for picking the rams over the saints. Skip was saying if he wanted to prove he’s that guy, he should’ve went to the saints instead of a stacked team like the rams.
Now skip is saying Baker got unlucky cus he’s on a bad team and wanted him in a good team 😂
Of course Skip said that, because he didn't want Odell to go to a team with a competent qb and perform well and prove that Baker was the problem, which is exactly what happened when he went to the Rams
I don’t think skip realizes the more he talks about baker the more NFL teams want to avoid him 😂
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Lol
Literally couldn't wait to see their reaction
Skip always getting "bored" when he knows he's lost.
Undisputed Nation. I’ve been waiting for this topic. When I heard the Panthers traded for him, I just knew Skip was gonna be heated 😡. The team that Skip didn’t want Baker to go to, he’s now there. Skip was so damn sure that Baker was gonna be a Pittsburgh Steeler, NOPE👎🏾!!!! didn’t happen. He was sure that the Seattle Seahawks would pick him up, NOPE 👎🏾!!!!!I love this 😂😂. Skip had a nuclear meltdown ☢️. Shannon killed him again on this one. 4th day in a row
I’m loving this 😂
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Now I’m hoping darnold wins the starting spot over baker 😂 skip will lose his mind
Skip please stop with all these rookie wins tyrod won the first few games all ge has is the "11 game stretch" 😭😭 what did he do without Odell last season please tell us that and then tell us what Odell did without Baker.....✍🏾
@@TheRealReal337 bros ont wanna admit baker aint that stick Skip holdin that 11 game stretch on his career
Ain’t gone lie these baker mayfield debates be mad entertaining 😭😭😭😂
@3:22 TEARS! I thought Skip was gonna jump across the table and stab Shannon with a pen
And Shannon would have beat him down 😂
“Would you rather get ran over by a dump truck or a Mac truck?” I’m crying 😭🤣
I know right 😂😂😂
Hilarious 😂😂😂😂
Im dead 🤣🤣🤣
Skip reminds me of Steve Carell when he yells.
First time ever hear Shannon bringing up the running backs, great points
Shannon is such a great analyst, always sticks to the point and topic in hand. Well done Shannon! Skipp my man, idk if it’s the age but somethings happening to your debates
it's definitely the age, old man is losing his edge!
coming back to this video after the Panthers are 1-4 and got the coach fired smh Shannon was right all alone
“What would you rather get run over by, a dump truck or a Mack truck?” 🤣🤣🤣
I don't see winners I only see survivors. That hit hard
Skip can’t call out Shay’s QB analysis when he said Manziel would be bigger in Cleveland than Lebron ever was.
"It's a lose lose for everybody" 😂😂😂
Skip gets sooo triggered when Shannon piles it on his mancrush Baker 😂. Shannon was locked & loaded for this one. Poor Skip only has his feelings to go off of & no facts when defending Baker cause the fact is he stinks 🤣.
Not a Panthers fan but they definitely not the worst team in the league
They’re the bottom of the barrel
they really is the worst sorry to inform you 🙂
2:57 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Shannon a damn fool
I still can’t believe that Shannon hasn’t brought up that Baker couldn’t beat Chad Henne in a close playoff game
He has, skip will just ignore it.
I think he did yesterday lol
Baker played good that game and had WRs drop 2 crucial TDs that day. He’s far from a great QB but to blame Baker for Chad Henne game managing against the DEFENSE just makes you sound ignorant lmao
That’s like saying Tom Brady couldn’t beat nick foles lmao
@@iitsbigboat Everybody and they moms knew the Browns defense in 2020 was basically Garrett, Ward, and a bunch of replaceable guys. They still kept the Chiefs to 16 points. As the QB you HAVE to win that game if the Chiefs score 16. They rarely ever score that few amount of points.
Man this episode still has me crying😂😂. Might be the first time I've laughed more during skips segment than shannons.
I like how skip always breaks out the Steelers playoff game when that is literally the only game the browns ever beat the Steelers with Big Ben
Not a Steeler or Baker fan. But Cleveland did win when it matters in the playoffs. Didn't help the Steelers turned it over every time they touched for in the first half. Cleveland actually held on to the win the game. Was it 41-34 at the end? With Cleveland getting 34 in the first half?
And there was barely any fans there imagine a full steeler crowd with the white towels ,woulda been way more pressure on the browns
@@larrylindgren9484 I’m saying that playoff win was overrated when it comes to Baker specifically: it wasn’t baker so much as Chubb and Hunt on the ground dominating after Steelers kept giving it up in their own territory. Second half was just Steelers munching away at the lead after it got out of hand (although lowkey it was kinda impressive cause they got damn close) Big Ben threw over 500 yards and Browns didn’t do much offensively the whole second half other than run the ball. I think they ended up winning by 9 and Steelers had a chance to take the lead at one point but Tomlin decided to kick a punt instead of go for it on 4th down late in the game
Pittsburgh gave that game to us
And it wasn’t even baker who won them the game, the defense won that game 😂
Skips Take on Tua aged HORRIBLY🤣🤣
I love this show but how many times are we gonna hear skip read baker’s accomplishments.
they got you to watch and comment though
It’s funny lol
Skip only brings up when Baker had ONE good season that is hilarious
Love this new trio....didn't think they could outdo the old one with the previous Jen but this one is nice too. The moderator has a job to segway portions of the show without interrupting or interjecting with their own ideas when their purpose on the show is to not speak their personal opinions but to handle the conversations when things start to override the time constraints. They've finally gotten the perfect one that meshes well with these two guys...Jenny Taft was the best one after this Jen
*segue* (transition), not *Segway* (scooter)
I agree plus I enjoy how she does add something instead of just cutting them off. Some how she has become better than Jenny Taft.
Shannon: and I know it hurt skip!😂😂😂
lol skip keep saying it’s ok for Cleveland to replace Baker with Watson because Watson is a top 3 qb when he last played, but continues to say Baker is good. Cleveland had multiple chances to get Watson in the 2017 draft before the Texans traded up for him. For them to pass on Deshaun in 2017, draft Baker #1 ovr the next year, then trade for Deshaun 5-6 years later is a bad look on Baker and the Browns.
The browns were already out on Baker long before Deshaun was available
Everybody ignores this FACT
@@alanF fr. I was mad my Bears picked Trubisky over Watson or Mahomes, but I’m glad we didn’t give everything up for Watson. I think Fields can be good if we build around him.
Skip must have dementia, because he keeps bringing up Baker’s rookie year, Shannon saying “SHAKE AND BAKE BABY!!!”, him forcing the ball to Odell (and then Skip starts knocking on wood for him), the one and only playoff game he won, his QBR of 91, and his torn labrum 😂😂😂. As soon as I hear the word Rookie, I’m like “oh my godddddd.”
"I don't care who came available. Jesus could've come available." Shannon killed me with that one 😂
“You wanna get run over by a dump truck or a Mac truck? …IDoNT wAnT NEitHeR!” 🤣🤣🤣
I'd take Baker over Darnold in a heartbeat.
Pick your poison ☠️ 😂😂😂
All Skip bring up is his rookie yr and 1 playoff game. STOP ✋️ IT SKIP 😆 🤣 😂