How Much FASTER are Track Tyres?
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🔴 Ep 3 - Will $1000 Coilovers Help Beat a Supercar?
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🔴 Ep 4 - How Much Faster are Track Tyres?
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🔴 Ep 5 - How Much Faster Is a Lighter Car?
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This is a £60 tyre, this is a £100 tyre and THIS is a £150 track tyre. We’re going to do some laps on each tyre to see which gains us the most time for the money.
Here are three sets of tyres, a budget set, a premium set and some semi-slick track tyres. We're going to do some laps on each of these tyres - to see which gain us the most time for the money. We’re trying to beat a supercar with just £15,000.
Last time out we fitted a set of BC Racing coilovers which really exposed how bad our old tyres are. In this episode, we’ll compare an eco tyre, a performance tyre and a track tyre to figure out which one we should go with. Let’s look at what we’ve got.
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Yes. Clearer inflation instructions for numpties.
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@@richsackett3423 More than happy for feedback, how would you like it displayed clearer?
@@nankangtyreuk6436 Dunno. It wasn't me who had the trouble (although I've certainly got cars home with new tires inflated at max rated pressure). Tire changers would seem to be the target audience for any instructional verbiage.
I hope we get a weight loss episode where it's just the three of them cutting as much stuff off the car as possible while keeping it drivable
And road legal
Rear seats, spare tire, roof lining, floor mats, all go!
The original challenge was the keep it more practical than a super car so they couldn’t really reduce weight much
Adding lightness is the ultimate mod, i say strip it bare, window motor, power locks, wipers, dash, carpets headliner and anything non critical.
@@desirefusion532 I don’t believe that was really the case, otherwise they wouldn’t have even tried the semi slicks. So I think this is something they will/should do in a future episode
@@desirefusion532 Carpets and interior are all impractical, they get wet, dirty, and wear out. When i stripped my CRX down to bare metal with a single plastic racing bucket and did a stage 1 NA tune, weighed under 1000lbs, it would float over rough stuff and fly like a WRC car over cattle grates at full send, and you want practicality? I can hose out the 50-100lbs of desert i pick up in the form of cowshit, dust and gravel during a drive.
I was a rollcage and a few other mods away from passing tech for rally when a drunk driver t-boned me and wrecked it.
There are a lot of youtube channels that try to emulate the old school top gear feel, but this is one of the only channels that actually pulls it off! Love the direction you're going with your videos!
This comment sums up very well the overall feel of this series, reminiscent of old top gear but with enough personality of their own to feel fresh and new.
When you look at how cringe making bad the American version of Top Gear is with it's huge budget and C-List celebrities, you appreciate just how well theses lads are doing. The banter feels real on this channel, but so obviously staged and false on TG America. Together with Driver 61, Scott's channels are also way more informed and informative. The Formula 1 analysis is especially good.
I think Car Throttle is pretty good as well. Also reminiscent of the old Top Gear. 3 Brits doing shenanigans with cars, all sorts of challenges and some pretty good banter as well.
Really? It feels identical to Car Throttle...a copy pasta. Like watching Music Idol from a different country. With budget Simon Cowell
You're kidding right?
Love this! Hope they do chassis stiffening (poly bushings, motor mounts, sway bars, etc.) as well as those brakes lol
doesn't help times as much as it improves the driver's feeling. Also it's much more important on higher speed tracks.
@@OxxidCZ it seems like this track has more twisties (I wish they had done a birds eye of the track layout). But they are relatively cheap options to get the car as flat as possible, esp because most things power related, like injectors, rails, tune, turbos, cams etc will be pretty expensive ... (plus CONTENT!) lol
@@akaSUPERMAN +1 they should get a drone for aerial camera shots
Front lower control arm rear bushings in poly or delrin will improve grip significantly. All others will be marginal improvements at best.
@@turbo_brian that's true, except if the stock rubber is trashed, which is pretty common in older cars. Then it'd be worth it
This is so cool. It feels a lot more "real" than what top gear used to do. That being said, i am waiting for you to do the final time run using a massively over tuned setup and the let the engine detonate as it goes over the line.
And for our final modification we decided to remove the fuel system and just run pure JP5 fuel 💁♂
It is a subaru...
@@markredacted8547 E85 would do the job even better - it's a turbo
Top gear is just bs so yeah
@@sepg5084 lol you dont like top gear 🤣
I've seen plenty of rally subarus sparking their brakes like that, looks so dramatic especially at night!
Went to a night winter rally where they had studded tyres but went over some tarmac bits, sparks flying everywhere it was frikin awesome
Super happy with your tire choice!! If you are doing brakes next, please for the love of god don’t but a big Brembo brake kit. Big brakes only help with heat dissipation, letting you get full performance lap after lap.
If you’re only doing a few laps, get some quality fluid and track pads, like carbotech xp24s. Will squeal really loudly below 300 degrees but when warm, they quiet down and BITE
A bbk with opposed piston calipers makes a huge difference to pedal feel and confidence, so you can modulate better and trail brake for longer. Its not just about heat dissipation.
Larger brake disk means the pads have more leverage to stop the wheel which means more braking force…
You can most likely get enough braking torque from the stock caliper to lock up the wheels, aka the maximum braking torque you can use. Even those grippy tires can still be locked up most likely. An aggressive pad compound and a quality rotor is all thats needed. Centric 125 series high carbon rotors and hawk hp + pads would be my recommendation if available.
They can't focus too much on braking. Brakes alone aren't going to solve their 6 second problem and they can easily eat up 3k in a brake setup. The op is right, pads, better rotors and fresh fluid will be enough for a single lap. This is a sprint not a Marathon
@@vr6one you're right. On this budget and for this purpose, a BBK is probably overkill. If I was in their shoes, I'd probably do pads, a flush and maybe braided lines. I suspect the best improvement will be when they inevitably strip it.
So hyped for this series. Keep going!
Yess!
Love this series and the cheap car challenge 😁😁
Cheers Paul, appreciate that. Scott.
Love that you went with the only right tire choice. You can't go wrong with the best tire possible you can afford. Such an underrated part of a cars overall performance.
Yay is good to have an update on this series. 1) thanks for showing the 3 options and testing them. 2) you guys should definitely check on better brakes and the rest spend it on whatever power upgrades you can afford
Better brakes wont really help a single lap
this exactly the kind of stuff you want to see from a car channel. great comparisons, great content, looking forward to see the development of this humble wagon
More of these please! This stuff is so entertaining
This currently my absolute favorite TH-cam series. Love it! Can’t wait to see your next upgrades.
nice episode. Also saw Scott live on saturday and he went from P10 to P1! He was flying out there!
Great series, I'd guess brakes next? Considering that these seem quite dangerously worn off.
OMG thats the only channel im desperately waiting for to upload. Keep going lads💪🏼
I love your videos, great mix of education and humor!
Keep up the awesome content!
Here's some insight from racing the wrx platform. Try 2deg - front camber for less understeer and when you will get to max grip in cornering you will loose oil pressure 😞
I get as giddy when this pops up in my notifications as when I saw Top Gear was up next on cable TV as a kid. Love the way you integrate the sponsorships; really organic. I'm rooting so hard for the Subie and for your channel!!!
Very cool series, entertaining and informational. Perfect mix! More like this please.
Have been waiting for this video for a while. Great content!
Loving this series! Can’t wait for next episode!
Cant wait to see next episode, love your channel!
Weight reduction, bushings and brakes will be a really interesting video! Great series
I saw one of the episodes of 'MORE FAST' - insta sub. GREAT CONTENT. I am trully amazed!
This video series is so cool! Thanks for the effort!
Love this waiting for more
You guys are putting out some seriously good videos. Glad to meet you if you come to Italy! ✌🏻
That's an excellent use of sponsorship! They're actually being useful.
Oh good! I thought maybe you gave up on this series when you started the new one last video. Lots of content coming in from you!
Cool series guys!
I subbed to you guys because of this series, it's lots of fun.
good honest advice. thanks
Adding lightness is going to be the ultimate mod, stripping the interior and anything not essential will do more to make it come alive than all other mods, and it's basically free. Can't wait to see the dash, carpet, window motors, seats and all the useless stuff get torn out. Hell, you could make money back if you ebay the parts.
Part of the challenge was to keep it usable as a daily so I don't think this is gonna be a viable option :/
@@loupcordeille-bougault3474 Lol you don't need interior to daily it, in fact you have more room for groceries making it an even BETTER grocery getter without all that extra stuff lol. I've daily driven plenty of 'lightened' vehicles, better mileage, better performance, spill resistance. It's nice to be able to hose off the interior when it fills up with rocks and dust from the desert. You want it to be a 'supercar'? Lambo uses skateboard grip tape on bare floorboards and CHARGES EXTRA for the 'lightweight' option of no carpet or headliner.
And besides, supercars aren't exactly daily drivers, a bigger challenge will be to bring your Lambo to Wal-Mart, Costco, the gym, the vape shop, the post office and Home Depot for a year like it's a Scooby lol.
@@rustymustard7798 it’s more comfortable, with full interior. Besides the Lambo isn’t stripped. Better just get a light weight battery
@@loupcordeille-bougault3474 lol see that new episode? Haha! They even said the same thing I did, more room for groceries lol.
It just makes sense to do, they don't stand a chance without losing weight. If they didn't then all the other mods would have been a waste.
@@BoHorror lol see the new episode?
Love this series!!
These upgrade slower car to be faster series are always so exciting, can't wait for the next episode
Love it. I'm interesting to see how you further close the gap after you've upgraded the brakes
Loving this series, it’s amazing
keep the series going man!
My favourite series on youtube :D
Love this! Can’t wait for the episode with a turbo conversion
Love this series
Brilliant episode!
very entetaining and informative.
Looks like brakes should be next, looking forward to see the next episode!
This series is great!
Roll bars and brakes are important at Curborough. Great series guys.
This stuff is really nice to watch
Lesgoo! Ep4!
I love this series
wow that was really interesting with the pressures! I wonder if the uhp tyre could've done better with lower pressure.
Great vid for the most underrated speed upgrade, currently stuck waiting for anything but all-season tires to be back in stock for my stock Miata wheels.
Just waiting for this channel to be renamed Brodie Media at this point.
Absolutely nailed it boys
A like and sub well deserved.
amazing series
When I put grippy tyres on my old AMG it felt so much better round corners and under braking I wore them out in about three months just commuting to work and back but it cut my journey time quite substantially, down graded slightly after that because I have terrible impulse control. :D
Damn this little series is scratching an itch that I've had since the clarkson punched a producer 😅
Keep up the great work team!
Great video!
How cool is that mobile tyre service? Damn cool.
Genuinely loved the sponsor, very fitting for the episode
Really hope you guys do what it takes to make the subie faster no matter if it's over budget. It's no fun when these challenges fail and we don't get to see what it actually takes keep up with the supercar/racecar
shouldnt have launched it with the AR1s, literally playing bullet roulette
Ok. This, series got you my sub. More vids like this, and you will surpass those MAAAADDDD aussies :)
“I just tasted the track, it… It tastes fast😁”
-Scott
I love how Scott actually put his tongue on the tarmac and didn't even have a joke ready for when he got up, what a legend.
Will: Surely you can't be serious
Callum, probably...: I am serious, and don't call me Shirley
Better setup of the BCs, alignement, lighter wheels, good fluid and pads with possibly some weight saving inside would do well imo
As a WRX driver I am super stoked for these, please get them out quicker than once a month!
As another WRX driver, I sure hope you're not planning on tracking the car. They really like to explode in interesting ways.
they need better brakes. then the time will explode especially with racing brakes
@@Hawk7886 LOL No, it's a '21 I bought brand new off the truck, she'll never see a track. Still like to see videos of their potential though.
In california we call the nankang an "entry level all season tire." Last time I checked the rival 1.5s was the fastest on the market but that was before the new re-71rs was widely available.
Yokohama Advan A052, Falken RT660 and Nankang CR-1 are the best-in-slot 200TW tires now, also faster than the AR-1 in this type of setting because their optimal temperature is super low and they work right away from a standing start :)
@@VeliRajasaar A052 is a qualy tire. Least durable 200TW, but fast.
RS4s are great.
Calling AR1's an entry level all season tyre is a bit of a stretch. Potentially you're thinking of the NS2r?
Regardless they're still a decent cheap performer. Maybe not on the same level as AO52s etc for autocross though
I've just got back from Nurburgring for the first time, using AR-1s on the track...i can confirm they are awesome. For context i previously used Ad08R on track and daily Goodyear Eagle F1's asym 5 on my road wheels - Just found your channel -sub'd- i look forward to more. :)
The other thing about the Nankang... they will really need to good temperature to work properly as all true track tyres do.
"I just tasted the track, it tastes fast"
Life goals 🤣
Love these episodes, maybe take all the seats out and gut out the car
scott looks like gav from slowmo guys and captian sparkles together and im here for it.
I was crying for that WRX transmission with those launches on the Nankangs
When I used to auto X I was shocked at the difference tires would make. The proper set could make a difference of upto 4 seconds per run. (Avg run being about 80 seconds) it was so different that you'd had to drive the car in a completely different way. It was awesome. Best mod for any car.
I am amazed that the stock 5 speed did not explode with all those launches
years ago I was skint, went for infinitys as cheap. First corner in the wet the lack of grip scared me so much I went back to the garage and maxed my credit card on some mid range kuhmos
Where’s the next episode?? This is too good of a series, you guys should make it weekly
Looks like big brakes are coming up soon for this wagon! That and maybe some Aero bits like a front splitter and roof wing.
Can't wait for the turbo video 🙂
This extended series is great fun. Surely ARB's are in order now? couple of hundered pounds only
Excited to see the channel for the first time...and the last
Scott throwing the thing at the curbs like it owes him money omg 😂
Alignment! Holy cow
I would have loved to see the sport tires with lower pressures than recommended, that is likely how they would be ran at the track anyway due to the extra heat, when compared to street driving, causing higher peak pressures.
They usually get more tire pressure than on street to keep the sidewall up and steering responsive.
I just tasted the track, it tastes fast 🤣
Brakes and tyres similar to the slicks used in this episode gave us our biggest difference in racing. Then weight.
Power, bushes, suspension, etc, were very minor
Content is coming on leaps and bonds 👏
Piggyback ecu vs stock would be an amazing test
New tires have a mould release compound on the treads.
They should have given each set atleast 10 fastlaps to get the tire surface to optimal grip level
Everyone's looking at the brake sparks, but just look at how satisfying the tire deformation is it in the clip at 8:43
Drill a big 4” hole out of the air filter housing and feed a 4” tube from the grill to the filter housing. Costs nowt if you can scrounge the tube ;)
very good you picked these tires i think because as you get more power power you will need even more grip and they will gain moren time than now
Sway bars and strut braces next! No idea what the Subaru aftermarket prices are like or how stiff the chassis is from factory, but for my Volvo you'll have front and rear for €500. Before I installed sway bars I wasn't sure how much difference a thicker squiggly line under my car would make. It makes quite the difference! It doesn't mount the curbs as easily anymore, although that downside is overshadowed by the amount of grip you gain. Adding a strut brace allows you to get the most out of it. My Volvo was pretty flexible from factory, so again, no idea what it does for a Subaru.
With those sparks, i can definitely see a break upgrade coming next.
I would love to see this comparison for a wet surface.
Great series however I have some suggestions. Is there a way you can use a more accurate method of timing the laps. Pressing start and stop on your phone is bound to cause incosistencies due to human error and reaction speed. Another is that it is proabably best to do a run of 3 or so laps and take the average as the result you go by.
I had these two exact thoughts!
Better brakes first. More power later :)
I'm sure that the grippier semi-slicks tires will allow for better brakes to be installed while keeping all for wheels in control.