A New Oblivion Realm Uncovered - Fargrave - Elder Scrolls Lore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2021
- In our latest Elder Scrolls video we explore the newly uncovered realm of Fargrave.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series and was released worldwide on November 11, 2011. The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim.
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I love the idea of this realm, to show Daedra more than just evil immortals.
I love all the politicking among deadra and mortals.
I was particularly tickled by the character arc of Stibbons when you get to Coldharbour. The daedra adore him. It's such a bizarre twist.
I hope Bethesda dosent just completely abandon fargrave it’s a really cool concept and I’d love a whole DLC there flesh it out even more
it could be a great addition to TES 6. maybe to even reveal new hidden Daedric Princes/beings
Yes! And explore more the desert and the Shambles! They have intricate organized crime there ripe for quest plots.
@@t.t6294 That actually sounds like a really good idea. I could imagine a quest line or two to introduce one or more new princes (hopefully with new Artifacts?)
I also would like to see Hircine's realm eventually. Someone correct if I'm mistaken but have we actually been his to his plane of Oblivion any of the games (including the spin-off titles?)
@@dylanbiggs3997 - Morrowind's Bloodmoon dlc takes us to Hircine's realm.
Agreed - I want to see Fargrave in TES VI and beyond.
I'm looking forward to the Fudge's theories on Deadlight - the Oblivion realm of a murdered Deadra Lord.
Its not 100% confirmed if thats what it is
@@rohhsand3044 That is why it's open to theories.
For example, can you even kill a god?
Edit: For clarification, the story said Dagon "destroyed" the Daedra Lord and his realm. Not killed.
@@badluck5647 How can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
Well, which one? We know Lorkhan was sundered, and as was Jyggalag, but is there another one who was "killed"?
@@thalmoragent9344 Neither of those gods were 'killed' as you put it, they just exist in different forms, meaning that whoever the mysteriously murdered prince was, he must've been quite dangerous.
You forgot to loot the clannfear at 13:00
Never leave the loot ☝️
I love this zone. It feels so lived in and I love having actual daedra citizens to communicate with same for the deadlands stuff. The answers Ive recieved just by exploring has made it extremely worth my time.
i really like how deadlands was portrayed in eso, wasnt just fire and brimstone and showed off some more variety with stormy sections as well which makes sence as mehrunes dagon encompasses all natural disasters not just volcanos
Exploring more realms of Oblivion is actually a really creative way of adding new lore to a game set 2000 years in the past without conflicting with modern day lore
1000 years*
Eso moment
@@rohhsand3044 700
@@thewolfdevil5193 closer to 1000 than 700
Love when ESO expands on the lore.
Really glad you guys have been embracing ESO lore more these days. I remember when the game dropped, you guys would just straight up ignore the lore it added altogether.
Michael | DM Pope is it fair to say ESO is partially canon? Like unless something is expressly overridden by a mainline game or other post, ESO is a good place to look for answers
@@XenohGG its 100% cannon my friend, Camel has a video on that subject. th-cam.com/video/lNUCtNOp5dQ/w-d-xo.html BGS has said as much officially if I'm not mistaken.
@@ronaldmunoz3121 It's canon. It's added some great lore to the series too. For example, playing as a kahjit Dragonborn feels way cooler now know knowing I can make my character descend from a long line of Khajit dragon hunters with the newly added lore of the Demons of Elsweyr. And they managed to do it without using the Thu'um.
Typically thr ones who cry about it not being canon are joking or just don't like MMOs.
@@thehomiehandler2435 I reckon many of the people crying are upset about retcons or the Ebonheart Pact. But the Ebonheart Pact is portrayed in an interesting and thoughtful way if you actually talk to the characters, and EVERY Elder Scrolls games has tons of retcons, so... confused shrug?
I was in ESO fairly recently, in Blackwood. I was in Gideon (I think) and decided to look behind the church/temple. Hey, what's this a portal out in the open? To where? To Fargrave. Amazing, and I just happened on it by accident!
This channel is such a suitable home for me, your investment in the lore is so easy to appreciate and respect.
Well said, my friend. Well said indeed.
Something I think you seriously overlooked is the Stricture. Fargrave is anything *but* a lawless place, and there's a good reason an invasion is rarely even considered, never mind attempted.
Daedra who enter the city are compelled to follow the rules of the stricture, and it is physically impossible for them to break it. They can't harm creatures outside of self defence, or even damage / interfere with the workings of the city, which includes the plaza of portals. Even mortals, who aren't bound by the stricture, are at the mercy of daedric enforcers called the Grasp.
There are some regions such as the shambles which aren't bound by it, but they're occupied by competing forces who have a vested interest in working with those within the city to prevent others from invading. As to how or why the stricture is in place, is just as much an important part of Fargrave's mystery as its origins.
Awesome comment!
If i was a daedric lord, I would make a realm with big cool skeletons because they look cool, and it would be funny trying to watch mortals explain why they exist.
Onnsire Unhec, Daedric Prince of Lore Trolling
@@KonRoge11 I mean Sheogorath is already basically prince of doing a little trolling
This is the Greatest Role-playing tool I have ever learned of in Elder Scrolls
After all these years of playing Elder Scrolls, I think Fargrave is by far my favorite city ever added to one of the games. I'd be super into more extraplanar adventures taking us to places like that. Nirn is only the beginning!
Fudgemuppet is my bedtime story. Thx guys and especially Drew with ASMR voice
FINALLY! Some lore from ESO. Wish you all did this more often.
What if there is a pact between the deadric princes that prevents large scale invasions through Fargrave, and the skeletons are the pact keepers in the fashion of the Earthbones. Whoever breaks the pact suddenly has four reborn titans working against them, and up to 4th era 201, no Prince has thought it worth dealing with.
The Daedra have an undue bad reputation. It's just hard for mortals to understand the Daedra.
Not only do they have senses mortals couldn't begin to understand (they see the matrix code), BUT due to being immortal, they are wired differently (likely thinking cyclically instead of linearly) . Mortals are just too "simple" to fully comprehend the morality of a being that has no end.
Could the giant skeletons of Fargrave be refugees from the Deadlight - the realm of the Daedra Lord destroyed by Dagon?
These nomadic deadra eventually were unable to reform or replenish their power without their Daedra Lord, so they became the skeletons we seen in ESO.
Which Daedra Lord was this? 👀
Don't they use the Chaotic Creatia? Or something like that 🤔 even if he was dead? So long as the plane and the Plasm exists, then they should reform, even if only weakened.
But could these guys ever regain their "life" Essence?
@@thalmoragent9344 The realm of the missing daedra lord is mostly destroyed and lifeless. Maybe it's inhabitants' vestiges can't return from the void without the Deadlight's equivalent of the Shivering Isles' Wellspring.
@@thalmoragent9344 What is a daedric realm without it's lord? It ceases to exist. So when Dagon destroyed the daedra lord, the realm of that lord would fade and cease to exist. Inhabitants could very well have left and found something else. Also, it could be a portion of that realm that was saved by the 4 titans and they pulled a divines and sacrificed their power to stabilize it and it cost them their capability to remake themselves (Wild speculation)
I'm always down for more of oblivion
This looks like an exceptionally interesting concept that I'd like to see explored more, maybe in TES 6?
I wonder if Fargrave has any connection to the Battlespire.
It does sound like Dagon had the same plan with Battlespire and Fargrave.
Can you guys do a recap of the lore that's been introduced in ESO? Or maybe an ESO *important events* sort of video?
Dang it, drew! Now I gotta re-download eso.
I kind of like the idea of perhaps these titanic skeletons are waiting for something, kind of like skyrim and how all the dead dragons were waiting for Alduin to resurrect them. Like what if their entire purpose is to protect Fargrave from the Deadric Princes, as by sounds of it any Prince could easily use Fargrave to access any realm and yet they don't instead they struggle finding their own ways to get to the mortal realm. Either they don't know Fargave exists or they choose not to do it.
Just me guessing, please don't bite me.
Interesting theory! I really like it.
Highly doubt they’ll sweep Fargrave under the rug, as in a recent interview with Todd Howard by IGN. Todd has said The Elder Scrolls Online has basically kept the series and lore alive. Or something along those lines. I’m not going to fact check. I just remember bits and pieces of the important information. I agree with Todd as well, were it not for ESO, pretty sure the hype for TES6 would have died 2 or 3 years ago. I mean re-releasing Skyrim every year is cool and all but like all video games, you can’t continue the series with a rerelease every 2 or 3 years. It’s redundant. My piece is done, if your looking to argue, this piece is all I have to say, so you’d be wasting your time trying to get a reply from I. G’day mate!
Go on, ignore me
Yeah I mean, I loved Skyrim and had never played the other games. I picked up Elder Scrolls Online back in like Jan/Feb of 2020 and have been IN LOVE because I was trying to scratch my Skyrim itch (but had already done everything in that game a million times) AND was getting sick of playing Guild Wars 2. I have never been more invested and interested in the lore of the Elder Scrolls than ESO. Being able to visit so many places and see all their different cultures...(Summerset is my favorite overall), all the different ruins, mysterious realms whether Daedric or otherwise (like Sotha Sil's Clockwork City or the Psjic Monk's Artaeum), there is just SO much love put into this game and the lore of the Elder Scrolls. I mean, I don't wanna get too much into the game mechanics and all that because that's more controversial though, personally, I love everything about it. But what is definitely true is what you said and I think even more than that, it hasn't just kept Elder Scrolls alive, it BROUGHT it to life. Never before have players been able to interact with Tamriel and Oblivion so completely and dynamically. Being able to travel to the Pellatine or Anequina and look out to the West to literally see the giant grahtwood city of Elden Root rise above the mountains is AWE INSPIRING every time I realize what I'm looking at. The same is when I'm on the coast of Auridon, the 2nd of the Summerset Isles, and I look west to Summerset and I can see the Crystal Tower or Shimmerene in the distance while the waves crash upon the shore and the music soars with gentle, proud and elegant melodies. And then it starts to rain and thunder cracks in the distance. Pure immersion into the world of Tamriel.
Skyrim made me fall in love with Skyrim and the potential for this universe, but ESO made me fall in love with Tamriel and being able to finally share that with other people in real time as we journey together to places previously only written about in in-game lorebooks.
@Brandon Quist TES6 will be several fold more dense though, and set well over a 1000 years later. New cities/architecture/characters/main plot. And lets be real, ESO is an MMO, which most people dont enjoy, myself included.
TES6 will blow ESO out of the water and probably kill the game stone dead. That's why Zenimax Online is working on a new MMO as we speak. In preparation for TES6s release in a few years
@@brownie43212 tes6 will not kill eso cus some people play eso cus they like mmorpg some people play eso and don't really like teso and some other people like only multi-player in mmo I love tes but eso is more than just the elder scrolls bro and I don't think tes6 will have more contend than eso it wil have better gamplay story and graphics but content? I don't think so
@@melodiasrojas8428 LOL. Only reason ESO is alive is because people are starved of actually QUALITY TES content and resort to playing an MMO with Elder Scrolls skin. ESO will be 10+ years old by the time TES6 arrives, and will kill it stone dead because it's an actual RPG with quality, meaningful content and lore. Not just fetch quests and grinding
just wanted to say I love y'alls content and wish you the best
Thanks for the video! Fargrave instantly become one of my favorite realms of Oblivion as it is both beautiful and mysterious.
That intro was deep, love it
This is honestly what I love about ESO. Sure some may have issues, but for me it can open up to many new lore ideas in the universe.
ESO, your planescape torment is showing!
Cultured man/woman, I see.
Nothing like listening to Drew talk about TES lore, cheers gov
FudgeMuppet should be casted as a bard NPC that tell stories and tales from the world on the next TES!
Fudgemuppet is several people lol.
@@waffensuperninja a group of storytelling npcs in a traveling caravan would be better in my opinion.
@@Mr-ri8nv i totally agree!!! I vote yes for MuppetMod!
@@Mr-ri8nv Wow, that would be cool!
I’ve got my gripes with ESO, but the music was always good 😎
Fargrave is giving me Lamplight (SCP-5005) vibes. An obscure location full of refugees and transients, and its origin is mysterious.
This was incredibly interesting, love the entire premise of Fargrave. Thanks for the good watch, FM
Fudgemuppet releases a new video and I watch it. It ain’t much, but it’s honest work.
I was thinking the same thing right when you said it: I really hope this is expanded on in ES6 cause it’s a very interesting place & idea.
LOVE IT
In one of your lore videos you mentioned of a daedric prince who was killed. I haven't heard mention of him/her before, I've never read any lore on the prince, and nothing on Google/TH-cam results in my searches, I'd love for you to do a video on the Prince
"Swamp. Mountain. Ocean. Canyon. The four who are there, bring them here!"
In my headcanon, this is where the Vestige has been chilling the during the various games. Everytime a Daedric Prince steps outta line, he can easily pull up on them and handle them.
I have no idea how many hours I have in Skyrim, but everytime I watch one of your videos in makes me want to play it. Whenever ES6 comes out I don't think I'll be able to believe it
ESO seems to introduce as many plot holes as it does interesting lore. I'm glad y'all cover it since I'll never have the time to play it myself. Can't help but think maybe Bethesda needs a soft lore reset like between Daggerfall and Morrowind sometimes.
I feel like every new game establishes plot holes. Every dragon break is using magic to gloss over the plot holes.
I feel like most games can barely stick to lore and just rip off their pants and run for it to be Good or Bad.
Bravo sir! You should record audiobooks or something, you'd be quite good at that too I suspect.
Finally the resident Daedrologisy actually does an episode about the one of Daedra/Daecdric realms!!! Excellent!!! Been missing these
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Well, good morning all.
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The spice must flow...
Awesome as always
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This was awesome. Mystery is interesting for sure
I really hope we get to see all plains of oblivion at some point
I loved fargrave in eso it’s such a weird place where daedra and mortals coexist
I don't have ESO, so this is fascinating! Thank you!
Just sat down with my tea, and see the notification. It's going to be a perfect morning for sure
The Skaal would be pissed if they learned about this
Is there any more anniversary builds coming up? Would be nice to see what you guys could come up with
I got one. Harry Potter.
@@TheFos88 hell yeq man, now just take a week or so to pour your heart and soul into a build and backstory then make a video out of it lol
@@xbeast1997x if I wasn't drinking some fine Matze I'd do it. Eventually. Probably never. But right now I can say I would. And It'd be the best worst thing you've ever seen. I'd have Tommy Wiseau narrate. And Keanu Reeves.
Maybe an Ayleid build, using the Staff of Ehlno-Ede and stuff like that 👀
Dang…this channel really does just hit different
Now the anniversary edition is now out, maybe you could do a fisherman build.
Lol I swear ESO is keeping fudgemuppet in business
Yes! Finaly! Never doubt for the brothers always teach everything to everyone!
Btw i have a theory about azura based on what we knoe about her and what khajiiti mythos tell, i think azura is equaly daedric and aedric, responsible for creation as much as the aedra but in different ways, i also think azura is a gatekeeper between the 2 major realms and the many realms within the 2, i think azura is what keeps oblivion (the void) and aetherius (the light)
She is also responsible for one of the barriers that protect nirn from oblivion, the other 2 being sotha sil's covenant and the dragonfires, she holds the lunar lattice, and then azura is also responsible for the day and night cycles, azura is also responcible for them non aedric groups of paladins dedicated to protecting mental states and physical states, one being dreams, otgers being artifacts, she made 2 races too, point being she is so multisided and interesting :D and so many things show her to be more important that ever then any other prince, other then malacath to the orsimer and mephala to being the foundation of governments
Fudgemuppet, this question is completed unrelated to this video but I’ve been wondering for a while if the last Dragonborn could travel to the Red Mountain and use the tools of kagrenac to tap into the Heart and achieve godhood the way ALMSIVI did? Could you perhaps do a video on this theoretical scenario?
Considering that the Last Dragonborn is already a mantling of Shor, I'm pretty sure they already qualify as a God.
@@Sanguivore for sure they do but maybe the last dragon born can go even further than that and achieve immortality like the tribunal
@@TheStrudelJonny Who's to say they aren't already immortal?
Considering they possess the soul of a literal Dragon, and it would appear that Dragons don't actually seem to die unless they're absorbed by another being capable of absorbing Dragonsouls, I find it likely.
And I believe the last Dragonborn that mantled Shor was Tiber Septim (if I'm not mistaken; I haven't studied the lore in a few years), and he became Talos and is almost certainly immortal.
There's more pointing to the idea of the Last Dragonborn already being immortal than them not being.
Damn i would love more of These videoer related to The lore for eso. There is so much lore and you guys always Connect The dots on a way that we filthy casual cant while playing. More og it please
I wonder if TES6 will expand, ruin, or subtract from past lore, I personally hope it gives us great images of places us mortals will never be able to physically touch...
I believe if done correctly through books we will learn more than we ever have before, if I had a cooter it would be dripping , if the game will be as large as the rumors say there’s no way the lore hasn’t been expanded upon to a massive scale.
@@Mr-ri8nv Indeed!
Alternate Theory: what if this realm is the remnant of the realm that belongs to the being that became Zenithar? His lingering fingerprint and easy access to multiple Realms would attract very commercially minded people.
Since ESO takes place in the past it would make since that his almost abandoned realm would still be "closer" to the Mortal realms and easier to access by said Mortals
Ooh! "Perfidy!" (deceitfulness/untrustworthiness)
What a nice lunch time treat.
Does this mean that Mundus is technically a plain of oblivion!
Ah, Fargrave, the _Tortuga_ of the Aurbis, and the finest triple distilled skooma you can shake a waterpipe at, _Captain Sparrow._
yess more ESO content! the game that fucks with, but also adds on to TES lore
A whole spinoff game in this realm
Give me a fallout NV stye obsidian elder scrolls spinoff
The possibility that Daedra princess can die... Now that is something.
But so is the concept of Daedra making a realm, in a similar way has the Aedra.
I love both these ideas...
Though personally, I think Fargrave is just one of many ideas, that thee godhead set aside... Like how a writer makes chapters for a book, only not to use them in the end copy.
Or how I draw a character countless times, only to use a different version of them.
I wish there were playable daedric races. I understand why there isn't. But I think it would provide a whole new concept they could toy with in the series. A whole game dedicated to traversing daedric planes and exploring them to learn more about the daedric races and species.
Hell yeah!
Yo! new oblivion realm just dropped
Fargrave could be such a fun place to play is ES6
Maybe if any try to abuse Fargrave, such as use for invasion. The bearers awaken
maybe sundered realms are like patches of oblivion that were ripped apart from the void when the magna ge fled back to aetherius? so fargrave could be the result of magnus
Daedra of akavir ideas?
What game/mod is the city b roll from?
Babe wake up new oblivion plane just dropped
Curious as to why you said akatosh is shor in the beginning of the video.
there is some concept art of kirkbride, where talos bids farewell to a figure called "king of atmora", who is basically a giant, around 20 metres tall. perhaps these skeletons are ancient atmorans, or something even older?
we finaly figured out whos realm it was. its ithelia's. original name was mirormor before she was sent to jail/after banishment. its not a lesser plane of a lesser deadra its one of the twelve main realms left with no ruler.
it was left leaderless sometime middle mythic era
I'd know they'd choose sweep but I'd choose Keep!
i have my theorys about fargrave, i think lyranth is trying to become the prince of that realm
Wait the minute... I keep hearing people are saying that Akatosh and Alduin are the same. If that's the case then why did Akatosh/Alduin create the Dragonborn to destroy Akatosh/Alduin in the first place? That's just stupid! I prefer Akatosh and Alduin as themselves instead of the same being.
Really loved the new eso dlc cant wait to see where we go next wether following lyranth ( who has no listed va ) or meeting lyrus titanborn in skingrad because skingrad is technically in the game its just not built yet its in a out of bounds area
I feel like they are setting up Lyranth as a sympathetic villain in future chapters.
It reminds me of Planescape: Torment
imagine how mad Dagon would have been, opens portal to invade, gets invaded. how embarressing for a lord of revolution and destruction
In a unrelated note who here would like to see enaiscion's take on lichdom it's a thought that has floated around my head but about the talk of other princes I'd like to see who are the ideal masters and other rulers of oblivion
16:23 From now on I will refer to Todd and Bethesda game studios as Todd and the Boiis.....
Maybe the titan skeletons were the four Daedra who created fargrave, with their essence. Hence the name.
could you make a video on the gargoyles of the elder scrolls ,where they come from? do they have religion?, are they daedra? are they intelligent?
Pretty cool topic for a video!
This is better than the lusty argonian maid v2.
I would like to make a request. I am following the Beyond Skyrim mod channels, & I know one of the places they're working on is Roscrea. I want to know more about Roscrea! I don't remember even reading about it in an in-game book, but as I said earlier, I don't have ESO, so if that's where it's mentioned, then I wouldn't know.
It is only mentioned in Skyrim books, and not even in much detail. It is basically a blank slate for modders to do what they want.
ES6: Hammerfell confirmed
I wonder if moths try to smother Drew in his sleep at this point. Probably has curses from the Daedra Lords on him too.
daedric realms being part of a daedric prince could also be concieved of as the realm and the prince being one in the same, like how the planets are the aedra. perhaps fargrave is a very stupid prince, not able to manifest a sentience. or perhaps its sentience or sentiences are dormant in some way, be that a sort of sleep or a sort of death or something similar that we have no word for
This is deep. What game is Fargrave in? Ummm did you say Akatosh is Shor?
ESO: Deadlands DLC