you prolly dont care at all but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an Instagram account? I stupidly lost my password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me!
@Allen Francis I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process now. I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
Your work is some of the best in the field. As someone who's recently started in product photography I've learnt so much from your videos and I'm keen to try aqueous shots to take my portfolio to the next level. If you don't mind me asking, that Bombay Sapphire shot on your website would that be achieved with the fish tank by dropping something with a bit of weight to the bottom to create that water stash then comping it with the bottle in photoshop?
Excellent tutorial, thank you very much for sharing it! I'd love to give this a try so, when it comes to emptying and filling up the tank, how do you do it? Do you use a pump? If so which one please?
Thanks. I use a cheap pump on amazing which you can use with a drill. It's not great but it does the job www.amazon.co.uk/Wolfcraft-2202000-Water-Pump-1-300/dp/B0001P1972/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=water+pump&qid=1553947662&s=gateway&sr=8-5
Only trouble there is it will seriously slow you down. When you do this sort of thing you have to do it again and again and again, I'll normally fill and empty the tank 5-10 times in an hour. Given how much water that is it's just not feasible to boil first. Bubbles aren't an issue if you shoot straight away, it's only when you leave the water that they start to appear.
Thanks Max for sharing a glimpse into your amazing work. I've seen your Baileys image in various publications and love the execution. One question, have you experimented with temperature? Both of the water and of the milk? Thanks and keep up the great work!
Hi Julian. I have experimented a little with both. On one occasion, for some strange reason, I decided to heat the milk a little in the microwave. I did notice a slight difference, it seemed a little more smooth, but it wasn't significant enough for me to keep doing it. I've experimented with water temperature more by accident than anything else. I have done shots in very cold, up to luke warm water. Again, I didn't notice a huge difference but my tests weren't extensive.
Nicely presented. I would have thought that full product containers would be dense enough to be stable in the water - without need to glue them down. Would Velcro be a practical alternative to glue?
They probably wouldn't float but given that the final images will require quite a bit of compositing, it's better that the bottle does not move at all. I suppose Velcro would work but I think the hot glue gun would be easier. Thanks for the comment!
@maxbridge8921 Thanks so much for sharing this very helpful video 🙌 May I ask a question, please? I'm not sure what evaporated milk is (or converts to here in Denmark) When I google it, condensed milk comes up. But I guess that's much thicker, isn't it? Wouldn't you ve able to use just normal milk or what are your thoughts? Thanks a lot in advance 🌱
Honestly I'm not sure of the difference between evaporated and condensed. It's been a long time since I did this. There was certainly a reason at the time but I'm afraid I can't recall! I think regular milk is not good for this purpose, too thin. If I were you, I'd experiment with a few substances, I often see people using paint, which I think I did try at the time but again It's been so long I think I'd need to test again. Sorry I'm not much help here
Good question! Away from this type of photography, reflections are pretty easy to deal with. Oddly enough, while shooting things in a fish tank, I've had quite strange results. On some occasions, I've had zero reflections and on others they've been a big problem. The strange thing is the lack of consistency. If you understand the angle of reflection then the same principles apply. The difficulty can come with the fact that we are also dealing with a tank filled with water which can have a significant impact on those reflections. Personally, as the problem has often been quite random, I'll always light one by one (which I recommend anyway). By doing so we can see exactly what each light is doing and address any reflections caused. You can also employ techniques like; having your lens very close to the glass, using polarizers on your lens and lights, surrounding your shooting area with either white or black (whatever is appropriate), and cutting a hole in a piece of foam board and placing that over your lens. Be sure to also take test shots with your subject in the tank. I often find that once either my subject or the substance I'm adding enter the tank those annoying reflections can dissapear. Hope that helps!
I have several questions if you don't mind. 1) Will the milk solution + food colouring stain the product? I'm thinking of using this for figures and stuff, would be kind of annoying if I wreck the paint job. 2) what sort of lighting setup youre using? Thanks for the tutorials, I'm excited in trying it!
Not to worry, happy to try and help. 1) I've never had anything come out stained but I'd suggest testing it on something less important first just in case the mix you use causes staining for some reason. I've done this loads of times and the tank, which obviously has been exposed the most, is still perfect. 2) Lighting will always be different you'll just have to experiment here. One big thing to consider is the colour of your background. I often end up re-creating the background in post but it makes it easier if my background is close to what I want in camera. If not, the edges of the clouds can look nasty. You may also come into issues with reflections, in which case use polarizers, move your camera close to the tank, adjust lights etc. All the usual stuff to avoid reflections. I'd also suggest lighting while water is in the tank. You may be tempted to light your subject with no water in the tank but the water will have a huge impact on your lighting. I hope all that helps and good luck!
Square Mountain thanks for the tip! Ill try it on cheaper stuff first to see whether it stains or not. I'm planning to just use white plain background and then see where i can go from there. Thanks for the reflection warning though. I had an idea to emulate pool-like water by taping the glass box wifh a blue cellophane tape.
Hey, awesome tutorial, thanks for the pieces of advise. I would like to ask you something that is holding me back, when trying this kind of shoots. Do you need a flash that has a short flash duration in order to accomplish, this type of shoots?. Thank you so much in advance, for any help. EDIT: Or any regular flash is enough and works well?.
You don't need a flash with a crazy fast flash duration but it does help. The clouds don't move as fast as liquid being thrown for example. I've done this with bowens Gemini pro's in the past which aren't the fastest. Honestly it's hard to say if your lights will work but it's really quick and easy to do so I'd just say to give it a go!
Translum is much thicker than full white, which means it doesn't crease easily and is a little nicer to work with. It will also diffuse the light a little more than 216 (full white), it's more comparable to the diffusion you get from using perspex. The flip side to this is you lose 2 stops of light compared with 1 1/3rd (I think) from full white.
I'm not sure exactly, it was a while ago, but I think it's one light in an optical snoot to get the label and then two lights in strip boxes either side. There may be an additional light for the background
Tank was from an aquarium supply shop but I need a better one which doesn't have a support across the top. Tirggers I use are Profoto for the lights then yongnuo RF 605's for the camera
I've not got an image of the lighting but I described it in another comment. I'll just copy that response for you - " I think it's one light in an optical snoot to get the label and then two lights in strip boxes either side. There may be an additional light for the background" - Sorry I can't be more specific
Thanks! There were 4. Two either side in stripboxes to get a nice highlight on the bottle, one in front and high up to illuminate the label and avoid reflections on the glass, and one on the background.
If you only have two lights I'd suggest compositing more. You can use the two lights to shoot the clouds but you may want more for the can. Get the clouds shot and then shoot the can again afterward and composite multiple shots to get it looking how you want.
Square Mountain cool thanks for that. Not verry confident with layers blending but i will give a go can you consider to do a beer( can) tutorial in future? yours shots are stunning. Thanks again
Interesting, not tried that before. Would you put that in while the tank is filling up? I've not had an issue with it before but it's definitely good to know in case I need to leave tank full for any length of time.
Square Mountain The technical term is a surfactant. It breaks down surface tension on water. I believe it will disperse those bubbles. I would add a drop or two after filling, then stir gently to spread it. You don't want surface froth you see in the kitchen sink.
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That is brilliant. Even more brilliant is that I have everything I need apart from the tank.
@ 8:25 when you said it is not your favorite shot, I think it's awesome man, wonderful job there, one day I will give a try :)
Your Channel is so underrated! Great job man and Thank you.
Thanks. My fault really, too busy to make more videos!
Great video. The cloud technique was developed in the 30s. Lots of 50s sci-fi used it.
Thanks Mike. I didn't realise the technique went back that far!
I've wanted to know how to do this ever since I saw your shot at fstoppers. Great work man!
This was really great. Would love to see your editing process for some of those photos at the end and how you shaped them, etc.
This is so cool. Been binge-watching your tutorials and learning a ton, thank you for sharing all this knowledge!
Glad you liked it!
you prolly dont care at all but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an Instagram account?
I stupidly lost my password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me!
@Dylan Otis Instablaster ;)
@Allen Francis I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process now.
I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.
@Allen Francis it worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy!
Thanks so much you saved my ass!
wow..thanks for making this video
Love this tutorial and thanks for the tips esp condensed milk & food color genius. I am quaffing your content.
Great! Thanks for sharing this technique. Vapo milk is easy to buy and at cheaper cost to achieve such effect. Gonna try it!🙌🙆😃
Amazing!
Great work. keep the videos coming!
So cool and inspiring🙏👌
insta subbed. thank you for your time and effort!
Wow!!your works are amazing!i would definitely love to try this out!was hoping ud show the editing part though...putting the clouds together
Thanks! I'll be releasing a quick editing breakdown in the coming weeks. I had always intended to but got very busy and then went on holiday!
Love your work! Can you do a tutorial on how you get rid of all the little air bubbles in post?
Nice video love it !
Great work, thanks for sharing
nice technique. thanks for sharing.
love this, great channel
Terrific tutorial, thanks!
Great image! Tip: you won't get bubbles if you use distilled water.
Thanks Steve. When I do this sort of thing I normally fill and empty the tank 20 ish times. Not sure that much distilled water would be feasible
Thanks for sharing great video keep up the good work
Thanks Justin
Your work is some of the best in the field. As someone who's recently started in product photography I've learnt so much from your videos and I'm keen to try aqueous shots to take my portfolio to the next level. If you don't mind me asking, that Bombay Sapphire shot on your website would that be achieved with the fish tank by dropping something with a bit of weight to the bottom to create that water stash then comping it with the bottle in photoshop?
Excellent tutorial, thank you very much for sharing it!
I'd love to give this a try so, when it comes to emptying and filling up the tank, how do you do it? Do you use a pump? If so which one please?
Thanks. I use a cheap pump on amazing which you can use with a drill. It's not great but it does the job www.amazon.co.uk/Wolfcraft-2202000-Water-Pump-1-300/dp/B0001P1972/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?keywords=water+pump&qid=1553947662&s=gateway&sr=8-5
A tip for you... to avoid bubbles, use boiled, cooled water. I use it in drinks shots as real alcohol can destroy the surface of acrylic ice.
Only trouble there is it will seriously slow you down. When you do this sort of thing you have to do it again and again and again, I'll normally fill and empty the tank 5-10 times in an hour. Given how much water that is it's just not feasible to boil first.
Bubbles aren't an issue if you shoot straight away, it's only when you leave the water that they start to appear.
Thanks Max for sharing a glimpse into your amazing work. I've seen your Baileys image in various publications and love the execution. One question, have you experimented with temperature? Both of the water and of the milk? Thanks and keep up the great work!
Hi Julian. I have experimented a little with both. On one occasion, for some strange reason, I decided to heat the milk a little in the microwave. I did notice a slight difference, it seemed a little more smooth, but it wasn't significant enough for me to keep doing it.
I've experimented with water temperature more by accident than anything else. I have done shots in very cold, up to luke warm water. Again, I didn't notice a huge difference but my tests weren't extensive.
Good to know. Thank you Max for the info. Keep up the FAB work.
Can you use continuous light or does it have to be strobes? Have you had any issues with glare on the glass tank?
You can use continous but you'll need a lot of light to have your shutter speed high enough. Yeah reflections can be an issue, it requires some play
Nicely presented. I would have thought that full product containers would be dense enough to be stable in the water - without need to glue them down. Would Velcro be a practical alternative to glue?
They probably wouldn't float but given that the final images will require quite a bit of compositing, it's better that the bottle does not move at all. I suppose Velcro would work but I think the hot glue gun would be easier. Thanks for the comment!
@maxbridge8921 Thanks so much for sharing this very helpful video 🙌 May I ask a question, please? I'm not sure what evaporated milk is (or converts to here in Denmark) When I google it, condensed milk comes up. But I guess that's much thicker, isn't it? Wouldn't you ve able to use just normal milk or what are your thoughts? Thanks a lot in advance 🌱
Honestly I'm not sure of the difference between evaporated and condensed. It's been a long time since I did this. There was certainly a reason at the time but I'm afraid I can't recall! I think regular milk is not good for this purpose, too thin. If I were you, I'd experiment with a few substances, I often see people using paint, which I think I did try at the time but again It's been so long I think I'd need to test again. Sorry I'm not much help here
Please tell your lighting setup
How do you set up the lighting to avoid reflections
Good question! Away from this type of photography, reflections are pretty easy to deal with. Oddly enough, while shooting things in a fish tank, I've had quite strange results. On some occasions, I've had zero reflections and on others they've been a big problem. The strange thing is the lack of consistency.
If you understand the angle of reflection then the same principles apply. The difficulty can come with the fact that we are also dealing with a tank filled with water which can have a significant impact on those reflections.
Personally, as the problem has often been quite random, I'll always light one by one (which I recommend anyway). By doing so we can see exactly what each light is doing and address any reflections caused. You can also employ techniques like; having your lens very close to the glass, using polarizers on your lens and lights, surrounding your shooting area with either white or black (whatever is appropriate), and cutting a hole in a piece of foam board and placing that over your lens. Be sure to also take test shots with your subject in the tank. I often find that once either my subject or the substance I'm adding enter the tank those annoying reflections can dissapear.
Hope that helps!
I have several questions if you don't mind.
1) Will the milk solution + food colouring stain the product? I'm thinking of using this for figures and stuff, would be kind of annoying if I wreck the paint job.
2) what sort of lighting setup youre using?
Thanks for the tutorials, I'm excited in trying it!
Not to worry, happy to try and help.
1) I've never had anything come out stained but I'd suggest testing it on something less important first just in case the mix you use causes staining for some reason. I've done this loads of times and the tank, which obviously has been exposed the most, is still perfect.
2) Lighting will always be different you'll just have to experiment here. One big thing to consider is the colour of your background. I often end up re-creating the background in post but it makes it easier if my background is close to what I want in camera. If not, the edges of the clouds can look nasty.
You may also come into issues with reflections, in which case use polarizers, move your camera close to the tank, adjust lights etc. All the usual stuff to avoid reflections.
I'd also suggest lighting while water is in the tank. You may be tempted to light your subject with no water in the tank but the water will have a huge impact on your lighting.
I hope all that helps and good luck!
Square Mountain thanks for the tip! Ill try it on cheaper stuff first to see whether it stains or not.
I'm planning to just use white plain background and then see where i can go from there.
Thanks for the reflection warning though. I had an idea to emulate pool-like water by taping the glass box wifh a blue cellophane tape.
Sounds interesting. My immediate concern is the tape getting in the way of your lights but I'd definitely like to see the results!
Hey, awesome tutorial, thanks for the pieces of advise. I would like to ask you something that is holding me back, when trying this kind of shoots. Do you need a flash that has a short flash duration in order to accomplish, this type of shoots?. Thank you so much in advance, for any help.
EDIT: Or any regular flash is enough and works well?.
You don't need a flash with a crazy fast flash duration but it does help. The clouds don't move as fast as liquid being thrown for example. I've done this with bowens Gemini pro's in the past which aren't the fastest.
Honestly it's hard to say if your lights will work but it's really quick and easy to do so I'd just say to give it a go!
Hi! How would this savage translum compare to a Full white diffusion?
Translum is much thicker than full white, which means it doesn't crease easily and is a little nicer to work with. It will also diffuse the light a little more than 216 (full white), it's more comparable to the diffusion you get from using perspex. The flip side to this is you lose 2 stops of light compared with 1 1/3rd (I think) from full white.
What’s the light setup here? One light from above then bounces either side
I'm not sure exactly, it was a while ago, but I think it's one light in an optical snoot to get the label and then two lights in strip boxes either side. There may be an additional light for the background
Great video! Where did you get your tank, and what sort of triggers do you use?
Tank was from an aquarium supply shop but I need a better one which doesn't have a support across the top.
Tirggers I use are Profoto for the lights then yongnuo RF 605's for the camera
@@maxbridge8921 Thank you :)
Can you show your light set up for this? Thanks a lot
I've not got an image of the lighting but I described it in another comment. I'll just copy that response for you - " I think it's one light in an optical snoot to get the label and then two lights in strip boxes either side. There may be an additional light for the background" - Sorry I can't be more specific
@@maxbridge8921 Thanks a lot 🙏
Cool tutorial but where did you place all your lights?
Thanks! There were 4. Two either side in stripboxes to get a nice highlight on the bottle, one in front and high up to illuminate the label and avoid reflections on the glass, and one on the background.
Square Mountain hey thanks. Do you think I could get away with only 2 when shoot on black background it would by white colour can of beer.
If you only have two lights I'd suggest compositing more. You can use the two lights to shoot the clouds but you may want more for the can. Get the clouds shot and then shoot the can again afterward and composite multiple shots to get it looking how you want.
Square Mountain cool thanks for that. Not verry confident with layers blending but i will give a go can you consider to do a beer( can) tutorial in future?
yours shots are stunning.
Thanks again
A drop of detergent, possibly glycerol, would deal with the bubbles.
Interesting, not tried that before. Would you put that in while the tank is filling up? I've not had an issue with it before but it's definitely good to know in case I need to leave tank full for any length of time.
Square Mountain The technical term is a surfactant. It breaks down surface tension on water. I believe it will disperse those bubbles.
I would add a drop or two after filling, then stir gently to spread it.
You don't want surface froth you see in the kitchen sink.