Lol, when I’m playing Diggie in Classic, I always give free savage to enemies lol, sometimes 3x savage, then my team saying “Tf is this guy doing?.” lol.
@@messi.careca it's a very old strat that used too work due to the old roam(now doesn't work since the roam item update) It causes minions to always have lesser health,enemies are more distracted,enemies location always known Basically an ass tactic
Now I think Diggie is Extremely op -Has a damage first skill -Has CC second skill -Has an Immune+shield Ulti -can provide map to team when dead -can turn into an egg
He is not extremely op he is just now way more usefull. His ult can only do 2 things, give shield and purify for 3.5 secs. It did not increase ur mov speed or what else and has a 60secs cooldown at all level. 2nd skill is a good cc for dashy heroes to prevent them from escaping or to make then waste their dash skill but it doesnt stun or anything too stall the enemy so u will still need a hero in your team who can stun/knockup/any cc to stop enemy from doing anything. His damage 1stt skill can be dodge but IMO its just soo balance. Plus his ult is not immune its just a purify, you still can die if enemy has many burst damage like karrie, lance, lunox and somehow dangerous to use when facing esmeralda. He is not OP but he is soo good to be in any squad and will be superrrrrr extremely usefull and annoying if enemy use ton of cc heroes. The egg passive is kinda like a bonus but i would always choose not to die but with diggie, if you accidentaly died, u can still be usefull and can still gain assist. So yeah not op, just much usefull or i says balance.
Montoon be like : *players* : this hero needs a revamp ! *Montoon* : * slaps a stack system on franko , there you go players ! A balanced hero ! *players* : but we didnt need that on franko..... *Montoon* : *Slaps another stack system on diggie , anything else ? *players* : (╥_╥)👍
Question: Why does the developers give a 'stacking' passive to heroes like Franco and Diggie who are tank/support heroes? Is it just to increase their damage output? Will we see more tank/support heroes to have these 'stacking' effects?
They try to revamp old heroes so thats why this hero get this kind of changes. I think yes they want to increase damage output so they can go on their on. I dont think so , that we will have another stacking system passive 😂
I think the design on Franco damage stack is good. But on diggie it’s just bad fit for the role. They could have made the bombs permanent(until used) and increased how many active bombs there could be. Furthermore they could have given it vision capabilities. This would fit the role of support. But no, they just buff damage.
@@bobjoe1232 It's for stopping the feeding strategy. And you can check if the bomb is there or not, if not that means someone entered the bush. But I agree his skill should provide vision like Selena or Nana's. Or just change his role to mage/support. But Franko's early game damage is too much for a tank. However in late game it's not a big difference.
Yeah. I met some diggies who just feeds the enemy and always stays in egg form and on top of that steals kills, so their price after death won't go down. And then when losing they write, “Nob team”, “Why am I even supporting this trash team” I mean they just stays in egg form, doesn't even help us with any of their skills or by annoying the enemies, after all they just die in seconds after feeding so much.
@@slims-1013 I disagree. Estes' passive gives him the damage output he lacks. I always get a kill (or KS haha) with it since the enemy thinks that my attack wont hurt
*Montoon* : Makes a hero with passive that needs to be activated only after after death *Also montoon* : Punished the hero for dying by removing the stacks players : what do you want us to do here ?! *montoon* : idk lol I'm drunk players : ಠ_ಠ
limitation of the passives effectivnesss exists in all heroes. ruby cant lifesteal from auto attack, ling has a massive crit debuff, beatrix cannot crit etc. and just like that diggie is also effected by it, its nothing abnormal
Opponent team: " Oh they have Diggie mid-lane, that is a weak midlaner, let's focus mid " Diggie: " Are you sure about that ! " Mid-lane turret still standing till the end of the game 🤣
12:48 me being triggered that he didn't used his flameshot to kill bea 😬 What if the stack is odd number, what will be the half of it? Like if it's 21, will it be 10 or 11?
i can't wait for floryn to get buffed. she was my main that brought me to mythic last season, but she's been a bit sidelined this season due to favor nerf
Beatrix: Did you saw Diggie lately? Gotta message for him... And the message is, Moonton recognized you.... And they removed the stacks feature in you first skill!
Since Diggie will be gaining stacks on the new update, moonton should add a new thing on diggie's skill or passive, like for an example each stack, the cooldown reduction of diggie's first skill will be reduced, on late game he can spam his first skill... But I think diggie's going to be too OP if that happens...
I use to be a diggie main but I'ved ditched diggie him in my first year for harley and cyclops, but with this buff I think might try mage build diggie soon
Although his S1 enhanced and have AOE, his Ult skill kinda not complemented the combo (S2-S1-S1) when facing speedy hero by himself. So, IMHO Diggi should become Quasi Dmg Support and paired with HDPS Mage
He is now a liability to the them unlike before when no one cares if he die. His stack feature is limiting and making him a backline property needs to protected.
Uhhh, I dont know if this awkward to Elgin because Diggie's stacks has reduced to 60 in advance server update today . They said it was a nerf to Diggie skill 1 DMG was decreased in each stacks because it only limited to 60
Did they also reduce the stack penalty when diggie dies? 50 percent stack reduction penalty is too much if they made Diggie's max stack to 60 from 100.
personally love new diggie. his non stackable s1 now means with good cdr, diggie can output consistent damage. in the past, i would put my bombs someplace and teamfight happens somewhere else, so i joined the teamfight without my precious bombs.
I knew that . If we use karina as tank , moonton will nerf it damage if we use as tank build but damage is buff if use as mage build , diggie too , if feed the hero get buff damage to prevent feeding 😸 , and we should do more
Hmm looks like this video is recorded before the newest update 🤣 cuz at advance server that make an adjustment to diggie again his max stack now is 60 and each stack increase the bomb dmg by 1%
i notice while playing diggie (im using this build) first skill is 4seconds and i replace the arcane shoes to magic shoes its 3seconds only (i know im not dumb the boots gives cooldown) and its good for stacking bombs becuz of the low cooldown
Hey, when you are making a video showing heroes and skill damage, or combos. Can you please show us enemy hero builds at the time, and their current amount of HP, Armor, and attack. It would help a lot.
i still think that the buff on atlas is overwhelming. Rather than stunning enemies, why not do it like a duration thing, the longer you're in his passive the slower ur mov and atk speed gets.
I think the buff is a bit too or, I mean it literaly multiply your skill 1 damage by 2 time, well it might not be much in early but just think of the damage in late game.
Personally I don't like this buff too much because it's focused on damage, now I feel that he's still lacking as a support while he's still not good enough to be a damage dealer, but I do like the first skill revamp, and a buff for him is good nonetheless
Diggie before :"I'm an egg"
Diggie Now:"Killer queen has touch the bush, killer Queen daisan no Bakudan"
"Another one bite the dust"
- Saber
Its over optimum pride i have the high ground
Shrek- lord of rings
@@quango2707 nani?! I believe in Shrek Supremacy
@@zainal9775 what are you talking about? Hylos is the best assasin
@@quango2707 lmao hylos is a horse, never in a million year will a horse defeat an egg.
Diggie was my primary hero that brought me to Mythic, I'm glad Diggie is getting some recognition again.
Is this the end of support diggie???
I used Diggie in epic rank and my team mates were swearing at me bc they thought Diggie was trash
And i saved their a** multiple times
most diggy only users in mythic get carried
Lol, when I’m playing Diggie in Classic, I always give free savage to enemies lol, sometimes 3x savage, then my team saying “Tf is this guy doing?.” lol.
I kind want diggie to be more of a support than a mage, but any buff or adjustment is good on him since he is underrated anyway.
Idol can support my channel ❤️ 🤗
His support skill is good enough though, this revamped just to make diggie recognised
@@kal928 and stop the feeding strategy.
Which isn't even useful
@@fahm8097 can you explain how this feeding strategy works pls?
@@messi.careca it's a very old strat that used too work due to the old roam(now doesn't work since the roam item update)
It causes minions to always have lesser health,enemies are more distracted,enemies location always known
Basically an ass tactic
Now I think Diggie is Extremely op
-Has a damage first skill
-Has CC second skill
-Has an Immune+shield Ulti
-can provide map to team when dead
-can turn into an egg
-is a bird
@@klyzer5725 with a clock, and a bomb!
He is not extremely op he is just now way more usefull. His ult can only do 2 things, give shield and purify for 3.5 secs. It did not increase ur mov speed or what else and has a 60secs cooldown at all level. 2nd skill is a good cc for dashy heroes to prevent them from escaping or to make then waste their dash skill but it doesnt stun or anything too stall the enemy so u will still need a hero in your team who can stun/knockup/any cc to stop enemy from doing anything. His damage 1stt skill can be dodge but IMO its just soo balance. Plus his ult is not immune its just a purify, you still can die if enemy has many burst damage like karrie, lance, lunox and somehow dangerous to use when facing esmeralda. He is not OP but he is soo good to be in any squad and will be superrrrrr extremely usefull and annoying if enemy use ton of cc heroes. The egg passive is kinda like a bonus but i would always choose not to die but with diggie, if you accidentaly died, u can still be usefull and can still gain assist. So yeah not op, just much usefull or i says balance.
Diggie can also be a counter for Chang'e which can make chang'e's second skill kinda useless
Can also stop regen when egg
The way Elgin plays Diggie makes me anxious lol, luckily his team doesn't trashtalk him.
They don't tolerate trash talking here
Wdym?
At this point Diggie is just A Mage who Like's blowing up people and take their hand to fulfill his Birdly Desires.
Diggie Yoshikage
Elgins video is late its 60 stacks now heheh
Montoon be like :
*players* : this hero needs a revamp !
*Montoon* : * slaps a stack system
on franko , there you go players ! A balanced hero !
*players* : but we didnt need that on franko.....
*Montoon* : *Slaps another stack system on diggie ,
anything else ?
*players* : (╥_╥)👍
Question: Why does the developers give a 'stacking' passive to heroes like Franco and Diggie who are tank/support heroes?
Is it just to increase their damage output?
Will we see more tank/support heroes to have these 'stacking' effects?
They try to revamp old heroes so thats why this hero get this kind of changes.
I think yes they want to increase damage output so they can go on their on.
I dont think so , that we will have another stacking system passive 😂
@@kal928 Imagine stacking system on Layla, Eudora, Zilong and some other old heroes
I think the design on Franco damage stack is good. But on diggie it’s just bad fit for the role. They could have made the bombs permanent(until used) and increased how many active bombs there could be. Furthermore they could have given it vision capabilities. This would fit the role of support. But no, they just buff damage.
@@bobjoe1232 It's for stopping the feeding strategy.
And you can check if the bomb is there or not, if not that means someone entered the bush.
But I agree his skill should provide vision like Selena or Nana's.
Or just change his role to mage/support.
But Franko's early game damage is too much for a tank.
However in late game it's not a big difference.
how many times did you feed?
diggie then: yes 30 time
diggie now: what is the word feed? all i hear from them is"fear the bush with an egg on it"
Looks like this is the comeback of the one of the forgotten heroes. Big improvement to the divelopers for thinking other heroes than the meta heroes
Been using diggie as a mage with dire hit roam.
It's actually OP if you can catch your opponents off guard with your bomb stacks.
Yahh i used earlier with full mage build
0:47 that's actually smart move moonton did to prevent diggie feeding strategy.
Yeah.
I met some diggies who just feeds the enemy and always stays in egg form and on top of that steals kills, so their price after death won't go down.
And then when losing they write, “Nob team”, “Why am I even supporting this trash team”
I mean they just stays in egg form, doesn't even help us with any of their skills or by annoying the enemies, after all they just die in seconds after feeding so much.
Tbh as a diggie cursed helm feeder,i dont see how this makes any difference for me lol
@@pettanshrimpnazunasapostle1992 is that a bug or feature?
@@pettanshrimpnazunasapostle1992 if it's a bug, mooton will fix it sooner or later
what i rlly like about diggie is his passive XD its so cute
Balmond is cuter
And pretty much useless, except for disrupting enemy recall and scouting. Just like Estes passive (worst passive)
@@slims-1013 Zhask's passive is useless too
@@slims-1013 I disagree. Estes' passive gives him the damage output he lacks. I always get a kill (or KS haha) with it since the enemy thinks that my attack wont hurt
@@slims-1013 Rafaela's passive is the worst for me
10:29 look at the effect on that Granger's special skin!
That isn't...
That's his special skin
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Oh.Sorry guys!it's special skin!sorry!sorry for the inconvenience!
I like how Angela got all the kills when lance turret dive and die 🤣🤣
I agree on the adjustment meant to prevent the feeding strat.
I think that makes diggie a more mage damage output that support.
Exactly 😂 his support skill is already good enough
Supports are mage nowadays, Kaja, Diggie, Nana, Mathilda.
@@kal928 HAHAHAHA Yes, Indeed
@@fahm8097 Yes, you have a point..
@@fahm8097 yea even Carmella too
*Montoon* : Makes a hero with passive that needs to be activated only after after death
*Also montoon* : Punished the hero for dying by removing the stacks
players : what do you want us to do here ?!
*montoon* : idk lol I'm drunk
players : ಠ_ಠ
limitation of the passives effectivnesss exists in all heroes. ruby cant lifesteal from auto attack, ling has a massive crit debuff, beatrix cannot crit etc. and just like that diggie is also effected by it, its nothing abnormal
As a diggie main I approve this new effect, makes diggie more scary
Actually this update is just fair... Happy for Boy Kwekkwek.. I'm still waiting for any updates for Vexi Girl and my boy Faramis.
Well isn’t Elgin a bit late cuz they just updated it to now 60 stacks instead of 100 but the dmg stack increase is reduced xD
But diggie is more tanky now
Sus
Opponent team: " Oh they have Diggie mid-lane, that is a weak midlaner, let's focus mid "
Diggie: " Are you sure about that ! "
Mid-lane turret still standing till the end of the game 🤣
12:48 me being triggered that he didn't used his flameshot to kill bea 😬
What if the stack is odd number, what will be the half of it? Like if it's 21, will it be 10 or 11?
It will be 10.5
Kidding
I think I want that 'Online Sabong' build now.
Diggie old first skill
Enemy:"lmao it so cute, it chasing me, haha doesn't even hurt"
Diggie new first skill
Enemy:"Nigerundayo! Help it chasing me!"
Also Course helmet is now working on diggie during egg form.
Fighting a Diggie and Nana duo would be a headache.
i can't wait for floryn to get buffed. she was my main that brought me to mythic last season, but she's been a bit sidelined this season due to favor nerf
Beatrix: Did you saw Diggie lately? Gotta message for him...
And the message is, Moonton recognized you.... And they removed the stacks feature in you first skill!
Plot twist : beatrix battle with diggie
Since Diggie will be gaining stacks on the new update, moonton should add a new thing on diggie's skill or passive, like for an example each stack, the cooldown reduction of diggie's first skill will be reduced, on late game he can spam his first skill... But I think diggie's going to be too OP if that happens...
Yesss!! The cooldown is so long now!! I currenty use the bombs as wards and pokes. Now they are even more useless with the long cooldown.
0:34
For some reason this sound effect makes me laugh every time it explode.
I use to be a diggie main but I'ved ditched diggie him in my first year for harley and cyclops, but with this buff I think might try mage build diggie soon
Diggiephobia
@@Gian872 I used to be known as ks lord back then back, but now my allies will have diggiephobia for the rest of their lives
So you only play dwarf heroes :D
@@pastir91 shut up, I know I'm short 😔
I miss Diggie's ticking time bomb that stuns the enemies
One thing about diggie's first skill is that it chases enemies!
Although his S1 enhanced and have AOE, his Ult skill kinda not complemented the combo (S2-S1-S1) when facing speedy hero by himself. So, IMHO Diggi should become Quasi Dmg Support and paired with HDPS Mage
He basically became Shadow Fiend and Techies' love child.
This video was so satisfying to watch.. just diggie throwing bombs to enemies is so fun
can we just real quick mention how oh my venus is going to start being the reason diggie will constantly be band
He is now a liability to the them unlike before when no one cares if he die. His stack feature is limiting and making him a backline property needs to protected.
"I think i saw someone here"...Monster kill this part was the best
Now im intrested in how many bombs can be placed simultaneously before the first one expires
finally thank you Moonton, im using this a Support. now it's Mage time
The adjustment made diggie a late game hero
Uhhh, I dont know if this awkward to Elgin because Diggie's stacks has reduced to 60 in advance server update today . They said it was a nerf to Diggie skill 1 DMG was decreased in each stacks because it only limited to 60
Did they also reduce the stack penalty when diggie dies? 50 percent stack reduction penalty is too much if they made Diggie's max stack to 60 from 100.
Diggie in mayhem : "Unlimited stacks"
personally love new diggie. his non stackable s1 now means with good cdr, diggie can output consistent damage. in the past, i would put my bombs someplace and teamfight happens somewhere else, so i joined the teamfight without my precious bombs.
That day is not far when there will be digggie hyper
Diggie is a deadly hero if you know how to use him
I knew that . If we use karina as tank , moonton will nerf it damage if we use as tank build but damage is buff if use as mage build , diggie too , if feed the hero get buff damage to prevent feeding 😸 , and we should do more
Should've added a mobility skill like flying for more mvmnt speed. That way he can be more present during teamfights
Well he ulty does that
Ahh thank god moontoon did this im also a diggie user and im so glad that diggie updated!
He can be use as a burst mage now ult for survivability and 2nd skill for CC
Do you like cursed helmet feeder diggie strat?
Elgin: I think I saw someone here
Zilong: ehh? You think?
HAHAHA 😂
I ASSURE YOU GUYS, YOU'LL GET IMPRESSED BY MY SNIPER SKILLS 😉
everyone: that's some deadly bombs you got there Diggie
me: okay who apprentice?
*LANCELOT & SELENA ARE SO FUN TO USE!*
_Allow me to show you guys how I do it_ ✨✨
I swear Elgin keeps using his ult without being stunned or damaged in any way
Hmm looks like this video is recorded before the newest update 🤣 cuz at advance server that make an adjustment to diggie again his max stack now is 60 and each stack increase the bomb dmg by 1%
As a Diggie main player, this is so satisfying!
I love how I can now hardcarry my team and troll enemy team with diggie now
I KNOW THAT MY CYCLOPS CONTENT (OLD HERO IN ML) WILL TURN ME INTO "GOD OF CYCLOPS USERS"
So Diggie is one of the most scary support now😎
I think Moonton just want Diggie to be more of a mage than a support.
*Which site Elgin used to check the buffs and nerf ?*
Diggie really turned into killer queen.
Watching this really makes me want to play diggie again.
I feel like diggies future nerf will be 1 stack per minion, 2 stack per hero.
i notice while playing diggie (im using this build) first skill is 4seconds and i replace the arcane shoes to magic shoes its 3seconds only (i know im not dumb the boots gives cooldown) and its good for stacking bombs becuz of the low cooldown
Does diggie has still that anti heal bug when he is on egg form the necklace durance still triggers?
Diggie has high damage before and moonton just added an aldous like damage
Basically the stacking system for diggie is like the old chang'e
DotA: Techies!!💣
ML: Diggie!!⏰
imagine facing diggie + nana ... :D
As a Lesley Main that Goes to bushes after using my ult not detecting targets... This Scares me
With this adjustment diggie is an angry roster
I love the new Diggie adjustment his so powerful now🥰
And btw but still how many bombs can he summon before it starts to disappear?
His 1st skill stack reduced to 60 elgin wtf not updated?
Hey, when you are making a video showing heroes and skill damage, or combos. Can you please show us enemy hero builds at the time, and their current amount of HP, Armor, and attack. It would help a lot.
I think A little buff would do. 1% dmg per stack to 1.3-1.5% per stack
now diggie is dangerous for invading enemies buff so it’s like same to hylos
We can see alot of balls will explode in land of dawn now
Like a double edge sword where if you are dominating then you are OP but if you feed then the buff is useless
"Is my adjustment broken?"
12:48 you could have used your flameshot to kill Beatrix.
no more feeding diggie
nice one moonton
i still think that the buff on atlas is overwhelming. Rather than stunning enemies, why not do it like a duration thing, the longer you're in his passive the slower ur mov and atk speed gets.
Idol can support my channel ❤️ 🤗..
I got all of diggie's skin so I guess it would make me wanna use him again
The Traumatizer is back! Diggie mains will rejoice, me included.
I think The Last talent from mage emblem would have helped with the poking and help stack genius wand
Diggie losing stacks be like: oh no, anyway
They'll gonna try to eliminate tank diggie and enhance his passive "dead" state.....
Isn't losing half your stacks is pretty harsh especially if you already have 100?
...so basically he just became cecellion
Sir elgin, i will train to use diggie today. Love your vids 💕
I think the buff is a bit too or, I mean it literaly multiply your skill 1 damage by 2 time, well it might not be much in early but just think of the damage in late game.
Idol can support my channel ❤️ 🤗
Personally I don't like this buff too much because it's focused on damage, now I feel that he's still lacking as a support while he's still not good enough to be a damage dealer, but I do like the first skill revamp, and a buff for him is good nonetheless
*People who always use diggie feeding strat: my time has come*
The Camping diggie tactic would be fun