Nice to see PDA awareness being spread further. I’ve been making my own videos and Facebook content trying to get the word out because it often makes it harder for people to get an autism diagnosis with the masking and “interest” in people
Another reason it's important for there to be awareness is that for those of us who do get diagnosed with autism early on some of the typical support for autism can be counter productive given how they tend to involve routine and being told what to do.
I am pretty positive that I fit the PDA profile of autism, as does my daughter. Unfortunately, it isn't recognized in the US. Most autism "experts" over here don't even know about it.
I just figured out this morning that I have PDA after looking up why my son acts the way he does. I feel like I’ve had a revelation because I thought I had just been a crazy person. I knew I was on the spectrum but I didn’t realize these traits that I have are their own category and have a name. I can’t tell you the weight off my shoulders knowing that I’m not bipolar or that I will probably end up in a mental hospital in five years. Now that I know I’m definitely going to see about getting some therapy. Of course being the avoidant, it’ll probably take me a year. 🤣🤦♀️
I'm in the same boat and I feel like this explains so much. I'm nearly in tears learning about PDA because I've had my ASD/ADHD diagnosis for years and had no idea this was even possible much less had a chance of being its own syndrome I feel like I can actually find the stuff that'll help me and not spend my days frustrated and upset that I can't just get it like everybody else 😭
Pda children often find security in imagination play, for example being a cat or dinosaur or frog - all my girls go to animals. This happens more when they are stressed or experiencing high anxiety or physical pain. The education and medical system in the UK sadly are behind the times with understanding pda
Dan you are an absolute godsend!...Thank you for doing a video on PDA & explaining it so brilliantly!..I now have an easy, yet detailed way of how ASD & PDA affects my daughters moods & behaviour...She's not getting the support she needs from CAMHS at the moment which isn't helping matters at school & home..Oh & she's going to be well chuffed you have PDA too because she won't feel like she's the only one now..She thinks you're bloody brilliant & she loves your channel because you're so fun, kind & you understand what it's like...Sending you & your beautiful family much love & massive brummie hugs bab 😉🤘🖤🕊🇬🇧xxx
I have never heard of this, but it makes SO much sense. I love playing guitar, but ever since people REALLY want me to play for them, i dont want to play anymore. I have gone about 7 years without playing and feel anxiety at the thought of playing again. I have a bunch of other examples, but that is my most extreme one. I just recently tried playing again with my dad (who taught me and i am completely comfortable with). We are trying to meet once a week. Its still hard even with minimal pressure on me. Even after 7 years i am not too badly out of practice, but my mind psyches me out and makes me dread playing especially right before the time we meet.
Same for me expect it's my art. I just stopped drawing, I didn't know why but it caused me so much stress with all the pressure of being expected to turn it into a career. It's been 8 years and I never really fully picked it back up again.. it just makes me too anxious.
Yes!!! I was OBSESSED with photography as a kid. My parents even got me a really expensive camera. Then they decided that since I liked photography I had to take all of the pictures for family functions and even for my highschool football team (my dad was a coach) and I haven’t picked up a camera in over 10 years now
I have a 5 year old son that is diagnosed with autism at first on the basis of severe social ridgedy Also a strong belief of adhd It’s just been bright to my attention that his pda as his extremely challenging violent an abussive to all members of the family He attracts me but then can either become very sorry an appears sad But if you speak to him this can send him into complete confusion disarray and he uses violent outbursts to get through the anxiety I think He was expelled from school at 4 Before being expelled he was separated from the other kids as there was no doors on classrooms and he would run in and out of all the different classroom He bonded with his nursary teacher mrs Kelly and she was brilliant but as he moved up he couldn’t bond with anyone else and would offset hang around when in the playground waiting for her to come out with the other children He would Stand at her gate calling for her 💔 his since been out in a unit that is a place these children end up in transition to waiting for echp to be granted He has this now and we have just been told that pda is a strong possibility as he just completely becomes avoidant of any commands Put to him he does latch on to cirtain people and has become obsessed with horror stories or being the Badie in everything he plays We are constantly trying all we can behaviour charts don’t work and consequences do not work We are now being told to ignore his behaviour but is very hard when his punching head butting bitting his siblings He smashed telly 8 now and threatens to smash his brothers stuff and does smash all our belongings We try to ignore the little things but the big things an hurting us is hard as how to you teach someone somethings not exceptable if your not igknowledging his behaviour 🤷🏼♀️ Any ideas or suggestions greatly appreciated His so young and can be very loving and caring but on whole is extremely hard work And dangerous to himself and other which was on his letter from school when being expelled And he will also throws stuff and has actually knocked me down the stairs And split my head open throwing a toy at me as walking up the stairs He has hit his dad over the head twice whist his been asleep with a controller and hair brush both times Resulting in dads head being cut open 😔 he only goes to the unit 1:30 mins day and needs constant supervision which makes everyday life chores even harder We are praying that he gets into a school for autistic children soon and he can start learning how to cope with his feeling and understand them better but as it stands September 2023 the earliest His out reach worker has said it maybe better to take him out of the unit but I don’t want to confuse him when it comes to him going back to school when he gets a place 🤷🏼♀️
Hope you’re doing ok now 5 months later? Your boy reminds me of mine, although my boy is extremely introverted. He’s 11 now and his mood swings are less violent, so doesn’t terrify his siblings so much as when he was little. Hope that helps reassure somewhat that it can get better! We could never do naughty step or corner, sticker charts etc. It was impossible. But somehow giving him a warning that something would be taken away and then counting 1…2…3…. Always when he hears the counting he groans and gets upset, but 95% the time does what he’s told. When he doesn’t i have to forget about it or keep using psychological tactics to make it seem like his idea. I’ve found it more useful to be on the ball and prevent something from happening than to discipline afterwards when they are little. But even thats a challenge. Well done getting the diagnosis by the way! Still waiting here. x
Very confused 🤔 My child has been diagnosed with PDA ( as have several of my friends kids) and the definitely don’t mask , in fact they’re pretty incapable of doing so . ( Maybe that happens when they get older???) On the other hand, I myself am an Aspie and am very good at masking and have fooled many people, to the point where a lot of people who don’t know me well refuse to believe I have Autism. PDA seems to be diagnosed when the person is so anxious that the simply can’t do things when it’s expected of them - even if they want to , they have really looked forward to it or it’s their “special interest “ because they feel pressured to do so - they often are diagnosed with ODD because it can get aggressive and look defiant, but it’s an acute anxiety response. And they don’t like rules and routines like typical Aspies , so so everything you think you know is thrown out the window with these people! For anyone that’s interested, Harry PDA extraordinaire is a fountain of information on this topic .
ive been diagnosed with aspergers but PDA autism fits much better haha. I always felt alienated from other autistic people and it makes a lot more sense now, especially with not being as specific or rigid with a schedule. in fact, so many “autism advocates” and people in my life wanted me to have a rigid schedule it made me want to not have any schedule at all in life 😳
G'day Dan, I have just started listening to your podcast and I enjoy listening to other peoples insight and life experiences with Autism. I am on the spectrum and was also diagnosed with asbergers syndrome and have started to embrace who I am. Keep it up
Lol I thought this was PDA public displays of affection 🤣 like how do you spot it in autism because it's not always the same as hugs and kisses 😄❤ - what would they be 😅
I haven’t watched the video yet but I wanted to read the comments first because I also made that assumption. I figured it was probably something else though 😆
Haha public displays of affection for us are basically done in code or as "in jokes" ... For example my husband and I shout "Moo!" to each other - it started as a way of finding each other if we got lost in a crowd/shopping centre etc (coz how many other people are gonna being saying it?!) 😂🤣 A couple we're friends with LOVE cats, so they kinda gently head-bump, like how cats do when they want a cuddle... No doubt others have different equivalents!
@@HannahRainbow88 my ex and i used to have this little whistle sound we'd make to tell each other we wanted to kiss. it was kinda like that pre-smooch sound but with a whistle in it. nobody else knew what it meant, but if we heard it it usually mean the other wanted comforted. typically through a kiss. so i can confirm, other people do thing like this too!
I appreciate seeing mention of demand avoidance on this channel, but I found more informative videos on the topic last year. My two favorites are "My Experience of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)" by issac russel (11 min.) and "Introduction to PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance)" by PDA Society (20+ min.). Isaac's story is personal. PDA Society offers excellent ideas on interacting with PDA people.
I’ve watched this video a few times and, yes, I’m at level one on the scale, aka Aspergers… But this is something that I didn’t know about till I saw this video. I’ve been trying all my life to tell anyone who would listen that something was wrong, but I’d have better luck talking to a wall. But this video opened my eyes…. Thank you Aspi World!
My daughter needed me to stay at her house and watch 4 of her kids for 3 weeks. She had no idea how utterly impossible that was for me. She's mad and I'm embarrassed.
I have Asperger's with PDA presentation, as well as Bipolar Disorder. These come with a whole list of secondary presentations, including OCD and Anxiety. (All clinically diagnosed). I just wanted to say that I find it really hard dealing with people who suffer from ADHD, and I don't know why. There are so many crossovers and similarities in symptoms. But the presentation style of this video, which I presume originated in a place of ADHD (since that's the one thing we don't share) drove me crazy; racing pulse, sweats, anxiety... it nearly sent me into a full-on meltdown. It was like... waaaaay too much hand-waving and gesticulating, and waaaay too fast talking. Sensory overload. Sorry, I'm sure this is helpful for some people who get bored with slow, gentle, thoughtful videos. But this video reminded me of Timmy Mallet - who never failed to send me into meltdown during my childhood! I just wanted to scream, "Shut up, shut up, shut up!" Sorry. I know it's not as bad as Mallet. But the memories...!!!
I have yet to find a psychologist who has been able to help me with my PDA problems, it's an extremely convoluted and frustrating to live with but it does have it's upsides 😅
My son has this and he is 4 years old, never knew there was a term associated with it. Makes sense how he is so good at preschool every day and teachers never have bad thing to say then explodes at home over something little
So that all seems a bit familiar. I'd not heard of this aspect of "The Spectrum of Poo" (aka The Autistic Spectrum, including ADHD, etc) before today, on which I am located, in multiple places. But especially the 'not doing today what I did happily yesterday' thing.
Hearing about how various disorders and traits that can co-occur with ASD manifest is interesting. But I've watched the video and have zero clue what PDA is which means I have no context to understand all the rest of the info you shared, which I'm sure would be interesting and valuable if I did have the context. Put bluntly, I'm confused not entertained. Starting with broad definition or general overview to ground things would have solved that for me.
I also didn't get much from this one. But last year, I found a PDA video that hit me heart and soul. "My Experience of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)" by isaac russell. I spent three sessions going over this 11 minute video with my therapist. I highly recommend checking it out.
Just that little bit in me saying this... I think your audio gain was too high in this video. Normally your audio quality is more than OK, but around 2:50 - 3:00 you can hear "hissing." Too love of an input volume + amplifying?
My parents say I have it. This just proved it. When you say obsessed with people what do you mean, like stalking them or just wanting them around or something else?
Intense interest in people can be just focusing on that person in a way that’s fully absorbing. For me that’s meant pouring myself into my friendships ignoring other responsibilities and interests or people in my life.
OK so I have two books about this because I’m eight and I have it pda and one is called super small and the other one is called PDA for the PDA it’s in each separate line and it’s pretty darn awesome which I love but that book is kind of boring for me it’s my opinion and I just think I should’ve shared that so hope you enjoy reading my very very long comment
Honest question: concerning PDA and people obsession, is that something that can be intentionally initiated or is it a thing that happens, but without much control of the individual with PDA??
No. If people want or need to take medication that is an option. This would be difficult for an autistic child as they may not have a choice 😔 As an autistic adult I have learned to recognise anxiety and overwhelming triggers before I hit full meltdown or shut down and remove myself from the situation until it passes.
You can't 'cure' autism, it isn't a disease. There are disorders than can arise from being autistic, such as having serious anxiety, which 'can' be treated, but generally, no, I don't think most autists medicate. Most of the autists i know don't take meds anyway, only those with a dual ADHD diagnosis.
PDA isn't recognised in the UK. A relative with autism displays all the trademarks of it but the consultant that diagnosed her autism told us that although she checks all the boxes, and 'would' get a PDA diagnosis, she 'won't' get one because they don't diagnose it now. Also, this video did nothing to actually explain what PDA is. I usually find your videos informative and interesting, but you lost me with this one. I understand what PDA is and how it presents, but this video made no reference to any of the main traits.
Although my son's consultant agreed with my descriptions of his presentations of PDA, the most she could add to his dx was demand avoidance traits. Whilst this isn't right, because my NHS trust doesn't recognise PDA, yet my LA now do, at least with having traits added to his ASD dx means his EHCP reflects the different support he needs.
Thank you for talking about this, my partner has PDA and a significant emotional trauma history, if anyone has any advice for how I can help him and be a better partner to him I’m all ears because so far the only advice I’ve gotten is “just let them control everything “ and I don’t think giving up all of my own autonomy is really a great solution for a relationship but I’m always open to accommodating my partner’s needs so any ideas…wide open over here 😅
Let him have full control over his life and have a lot of say about decor, etc. Don’t overfocus on the demand avoidance- he is still Autistic. Engage in his special interests, accommodate sensory needs, etc. My PDA died down when my Autistic needs were met. Being able to accommodate my own sensory needs, buy noise cancelling headphones, buy bedding that actually comforts me, etc. If my Autistic needs are met, demands feel less threatening.
@SirHooty What do you mean? I made several statements; each one being followed by an exclamation mark (to emphasise my surprise). I started each new sentence with a capital! Please be specific - and tell me where the punctuation could be improved... I edited where the autocorrect inserted "aren't" - when I meant to type "are not", but apart from that - I don't get it! You should also consider that the interaction, comment, and point itself - are more important than punctuation, grammar, or syntax. What it English isn't my first language? What if I am dyslexic? Should I be berated for my writing skills? I am happy to have an erudite discussion on the matter... Finally, I suspect that you mean "correctly"; as opposed to properly within this context.
@SirHooty "Written" rather than wrote? The irony of spelling the word correct incorrectly! 🤣 My grammar, syntax and punctuation were fine! Do not mix numbers with words.
I didn't find this to be quite clear. I think I have demand avoidance, but don't think it rises to the PDA level. But mostly your descriptions seemed vague. Try again. :)
Dude. I realize you record at higher speed, but I’m AuDHD with MASSIVE processing issues. Your videos may only be five minutes long but I have to rewind like fifty times in order for the amalgamous gibberish to resolve itself into actual hearable speech. It’s not helpful, and it makes me not want to watch you.
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Nice to see PDA awareness being spread further. I’ve been making my own videos and Facebook content trying to get the word out because it often makes it harder for people to get an autism diagnosis with the masking and “interest” in people
Love ur username as someone with pda hahaha
Ooo…. and I appreciate you doing that!!!
‘Checking out your channel now - because *I* WANT to. ✊😄
Another reason it's important for there to be awareness is that for those of us who do get diagnosed with autism early on some of the typical support for autism can be counter productive given how they tend to involve routine and being told what to do.
I am pretty positive that I fit the PDA profile of autism, as does my daughter. Unfortunately, it isn't recognized in the US. Most autism "experts" over here don't even know about it.
My son was diagnosed with it the USA, i had never heard of it. Have to find someone who knows whT it is.
why does Symptom 1 happen?
I was surprised my neuropsychologist in the us was well aware and validated it’s existence!
I just figured out this morning that I have PDA after looking up why my son acts the way he does. I feel like I’ve had a revelation because I thought I had just been a crazy person. I knew I was on the spectrum but I didn’t realize these traits that I have are their own category and have a name. I can’t tell you the weight off my shoulders knowing that I’m not bipolar or that I will probably end up in a mental hospital in five years. Now that I know I’m definitely going to see about getting some therapy. Of course being the avoidant, it’ll probably take me a year. 🤣🤦♀️
I'm in the same boat and I feel like this explains so much. I'm nearly in tears learning about PDA because I've had my ASD/ADHD diagnosis for years and had no idea this was even possible much less had a chance of being its own syndrome
I feel like I can actually find the stuff that'll help me and not spend my days frustrated and upset that I can't just get it like everybody else 😭
Pda children often find security in imagination play, for example being a cat or dinosaur or frog - all my girls go to animals. This happens more when they are stressed or experiencing high anxiety or physical pain. The education and medical system in the UK sadly are behind the times with understanding pda
Dan you are an absolute godsend!...Thank you for doing a video on PDA & explaining it so brilliantly!..I now have an easy, yet detailed way of how ASD & PDA affects my daughters moods & behaviour...She's not getting the support she needs from CAMHS at the moment which isn't helping matters at school & home..Oh & she's going to be well chuffed you have PDA too because she won't feel like she's the only one now..She thinks you're bloody brilliant & she loves your channel because you're so fun, kind & you understand what it's like...Sending you & your beautiful family much love & massive brummie hugs bab 😉🤘🖤🕊🇬🇧xxx
Also common to see being lost in role playing , creative imagination, also not accepting norms
My special interests have mostly been celebrities, musicians, or characters from movies, tv shows, and books.
Same
I have never heard of this, but it makes SO much sense. I love playing guitar, but ever since people REALLY want me to play for them, i dont want to play anymore. I have gone about 7 years without playing and feel anxiety at the thought of playing again. I have a bunch of other examples, but that is my most extreme one. I just recently tried playing again with my dad (who taught me and i am completely comfortable with). We are trying to meet once a week. Its still hard even with minimal pressure on me. Even after 7 years i am not too badly out of practice, but my mind psyches me out and makes me dread playing especially right before the time we meet.
exacy experience with singing. maybe performance arts just arent for me. but i sing for me
Same for me expect it's my art. I just stopped drawing, I didn't know why but it caused me so much stress with all the pressure of being expected to turn it into a career. It's been 8 years and I never really fully picked it back up again.. it just makes me too anxious.
Yes!!! I was OBSESSED with photography as a kid. My parents even got me a really expensive camera. Then they decided that since I liked photography I had to take all of the pictures for family functions and even for my highschool football team (my dad was a coach) and I haven’t picked up a camera in over 10 years now
My son has this ! It’s barely even heard of in Canada . I’m so glad I found this video
I have a 5 year old son that is diagnosed with autism at first on the basis of severe social ridgedy
Also a strong belief of adhd
It’s just been bright to my attention that his pda as his extremely challenging violent an abussive to all members of the family
He attracts me but then can either become very sorry an appears sad
But if you speak to him this can send him into complete confusion disarray and he uses violent outbursts to get through the anxiety I think
He was expelled from school at 4
Before being expelled he was separated from the other kids as there was no doors on classrooms and he would run in and out of all the different classroom
He bonded with his nursary teacher mrs Kelly and she was brilliant but as he moved up he couldn’t bond with anyone else and would offset hang around when in the playground waiting for her to come out with the other children
He would
Stand at her gate calling for her 💔 his since been out in a unit that is a place these children end up in transition to waiting for echp to be granted
He has this now and we have just been told that pda is a strong possibility as he just completely becomes avoidant of any commands
Put to him he does latch on to cirtain people and has become obsessed with horror stories or being the Badie in everything he plays
We are constantly trying all we can behaviour charts don’t work and consequences do not work
We are now being told to ignore his behaviour but is very hard when his punching head butting bitting his siblings
He smashed telly 8 now and threatens to smash his brothers stuff and does smash all our belongings
We try to ignore the little things but the big things an hurting us is hard as how to you teach someone somethings not exceptable if your not igknowledging his behaviour 🤷🏼♀️
Any ideas or suggestions greatly appreciated
His so young and can be very loving and caring but on whole is extremely hard work
And dangerous to himself and other which was on his letter from school when being expelled
And he will also throws stuff and has actually knocked me down the stairs
And split my head open throwing a toy at me as walking up the stairs
He has hit his dad over the head twice whist his been asleep with a controller and hair brush both times
Resulting in dads head being cut open 😔 he only goes to the unit 1:30 mins day and needs constant supervision which makes everyday life chores even harder
We are praying that he gets into a school for autistic children soon and he can start learning how to cope with his feeling and understand them better but as it stands September 2023 the earliest
His out reach worker has said it maybe better to take him out of the unit but I don’t want to confuse him when it comes to him going back to school when he gets a place 🤷🏼♀️
Hope you’re doing ok now 5 months later?
Your boy reminds me of mine, although my boy is extremely introverted. He’s 11 now and his mood swings are less violent, so doesn’t terrify his siblings so much as when he was little. Hope that helps reassure somewhat that it can get better!
We could never do naughty step or corner, sticker charts etc. It was impossible. But somehow giving him a warning that something would be taken away and then counting 1…2…3…. Always when he hears the counting he groans and gets upset, but 95% the time does what he’s told. When he doesn’t i have to forget about it or keep using psychological tactics to make it seem like his idea.
I’ve found it more useful to be on the ball and prevent something from happening than to discipline afterwards when they are little. But even thats a challenge. Well done getting the diagnosis by the way! Still waiting here. x
Very confused 🤔
My child has been diagnosed with PDA ( as have several of my friends kids) and the definitely don’t mask , in fact they’re pretty incapable of doing so . ( Maybe that happens when they get older???)
On the other hand, I myself am an Aspie and am very good at masking and have fooled many people, to the point where a lot of people who don’t know me well refuse to believe I have Autism.
PDA seems to be diagnosed when the person is so anxious that the simply can’t do things when it’s expected of them - even if they want to , they have really looked forward to it or it’s their “special interest “ because they feel pressured to do so - they often are diagnosed with ODD because it can get aggressive and look defiant, but it’s an acute anxiety response. And they don’t like rules and routines like typical Aspies , so so everything you think you know is thrown out the window with these people!
For anyone that’s interested, Harry PDA extraordinaire is a fountain of information on this topic .
Woah this was a very insightful comment, thank you for this.. I think I just had an epiphany 😆
ive been diagnosed with aspergers but PDA autism fits much better haha. I always felt alienated from other autistic people and it makes a lot more sense now, especially with not being as specific or rigid with a schedule. in fact, so many “autism advocates” and people in my life wanted me to have a rigid schedule it made me want to not have any schedule at all in life 😳
G'day Dan,
I have just started listening to your podcast and I enjoy listening to other peoples insight and life experiences with Autism. I am on the spectrum and was also diagnosed with asbergers syndrome and have started to embrace who I am. Keep it up
Thank you sooo much! It is so valuable. In our country professionals do not know about PDA. I have to diagnose my child.
Lol I thought this was PDA public displays of affection 🤣 like how do you spot it in autism because it's not always the same as hugs and kisses 😄❤ - what would they be 😅
Omg lol same
I haven’t watched the video yet but I wanted to read the comments first because I also made that assumption. I figured it was probably something else though 😆
Haha public displays of affection for us are basically done in code or as "in jokes" ... For example my husband and I shout "Moo!" to each other - it started as a way of finding each other if we got lost in a crowd/shopping centre etc (coz how many other people are gonna being saying it?!) 😂🤣 A couple we're friends with LOVE cats, so they kinda gently head-bump, like how cats do when they want a cuddle... No doubt others have different equivalents!
@@HannahRainbow88 my ex and i used to have this little whistle sound we'd make to tell each other we wanted to kiss. it was kinda like that pre-smooch sound but with a whistle in it. nobody else knew what it meant, but if we heard it it usually mean the other wanted comforted. typically through a kiss. so i can confirm, other people do thing like this too!
Lol, me too I thought he was going to talk about Public displays of affection 🤣
I appreciate seeing mention of demand avoidance on this channel, but I found more informative videos on the topic last year. My two favorites are "My Experience of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)" by issac russel (11 min.) and "Introduction to PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance)" by PDA Society (20+ min.). Isaac's story is personal. PDA Society offers excellent ideas on interacting with PDA people.
I often struggle to understand why autism and bpd can have so much overlap and supposedly not be able to cooccur.
I feel like having pmdd and pda manifests as bpd lol
I’ve watched this video a few times and, yes, I’m at level one on the scale, aka Aspergers…
But this is something that I didn’t know about till I saw this video.
I’ve been trying all my life to tell anyone who would listen that something was wrong, but I’d have better luck talking to a wall.
But this video opened my eyes….
Thank you Aspi World!
Dan, This is great information! Very good video!
A third of the post was a headphone add.
The man needs to pay his bills
This sounds like what I have. My doc hasn’t said anything about this yet - just social and generalized anxiety
My daughter needed me to stay at her house and watch 4 of her kids for 3 weeks. She had no idea how utterly impossible that was for me. She's mad and I'm embarrassed.
I have Asperger's with PDA presentation, as well as Bipolar Disorder. These come with a whole list of secondary presentations, including OCD and Anxiety. (All clinically diagnosed). I just wanted to say that I find it really hard dealing with people who suffer from ADHD, and I don't know why. There are so many crossovers and similarities in symptoms. But the presentation style of this video, which I presume originated in a place of ADHD (since that's the one thing we don't share) drove me crazy; racing pulse, sweats, anxiety... it nearly sent me into a full-on meltdown. It was like... waaaaay too much hand-waving and gesticulating, and waaaay too fast talking. Sensory overload. Sorry, I'm sure this is helpful for some people who get bored with slow, gentle, thoughtful videos. But this video reminded me of Timmy Mallet - who never failed to send me into meltdown during my childhood! I just wanted to scream, "Shut up, shut up, shut up!" Sorry. I know it's not as bad as Mallet. But the memories...!!!
Seems like there's some overlap in symptoms with Bipolar 2 (have both bipolar and asd)
All of this is well explained, it resonated with me.
I have one asc child and one asc with pda profile. Total polar opposites
I have yet to find a psychologist who has been able to help me with my PDA problems, it's an extremely convoluted and frustrating to live with but it does have it's upsides 😅
I have absolutely no problem cleaning until my father or client told me to. Complete shut down.
I never knew how insane I was until I started watching this channel 🤣
My son has this and he is 4 years old, never knew there was a term associated with it. Makes sense how he is so good at preschool every day and teachers never have bad thing to say then explodes at home over something little
So that all seems a bit familiar. I'd not heard of this aspect of "The Spectrum of Poo" (aka The Autistic Spectrum, including ADHD, etc) before today, on which I am located, in multiple places.
But especially the 'not doing today what I did happily yesterday' thing.
Hearing about how various disorders and traits that can co-occur with ASD manifest is interesting. But I've watched the video and have zero clue what PDA is which means I have no context to understand all the rest of the info you shared, which I'm sure would be interesting and valuable if I did have the context.
Put bluntly, I'm confused not entertained. Starting with broad definition or general overview to ground things would have solved that for me.
I also didn't get much from this one. But last year, I found a PDA video that hit me heart and soul. "My Experience of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA)" by isaac russell. I spent three sessions going over this 11 minute video with my therapist. I highly recommend checking it out.
Just that little bit in me saying this... I think your audio gain was too high in this video. Normally your audio quality is more than OK, but around 2:50 - 3:00 you can hear "hissing." Too love of an input volume + amplifying?
This sounds very much like me but I need to hear more info
My parents say I have it. This just proved it. When you say obsessed with people what do you mean, like stalking them or just wanting them around or something else?
Intense interest in people can be just focusing on that person in a way that’s fully absorbing. For me that’s meant pouring myself into my friendships ignoring other responsibilities and interests or people in my life.
@@NoPressurePDA I mean I hate my dad going out of the house… and I text my friends every day… I’m trying to stop that. Would that count?
Man, you put this out TODAY? I wanted to wait til tomorrow....or maybe the next day....
Just kidding of course, Dan. LOVE your content.
Half the video is an add start it at 2:20
Yo, what desk do you have?
Me totally!! My name is Missy, I'm on my husband's phone. Is this only found in people with Autism?
OK so I have two books about this because I’m eight and I have it pda and one is called super small and the other one is called PDA for the PDA it’s in each separate line and it’s pretty darn awesome which I love but that book is kind of boring for me it’s my opinion and I just think I should’ve shared that so hope you enjoy reading my very very long comment
Honest question: concerning PDA and people obsession, is that something that can be intentionally initiated or is it a thing that happens, but without much control of the individual with PDA??
Thank you for this video. You mentioned therapy at the end. Can you paste here some links describing them in more detail?
Also does every autistic person have to have medication to ‘cure’ themselves or get out of a anxiety inducing situation?
No. If people want or need to take medication that is an option. This would be difficult for an autistic child as they may not have a choice 😔 As an autistic adult I have learned to recognise anxiety and overwhelming triggers before I hit full meltdown or shut down and remove myself from the situation until it passes.
@@jenlovesthisstuff ok thanks 😊
You can't 'cure' autism, it isn't a disease. There are disorders than can arise from being autistic, such as having serious anxiety, which 'can' be treated, but generally, no, I don't think most autists medicate. Most of the autists i know don't take meds anyway, only those with a dual ADHD diagnosis.
Generally those with Autism aren’t medicated for the Autism but rather for cooccurring things like Anxiety, ADHD etc.
I just got called out 🤯
I have alot of these traits.
I hate adds and this video was literally half advertising...
PDA isn't recognised in the UK. A relative with autism displays all the trademarks of it but the consultant that diagnosed her autism told us that although she checks all the boxes, and 'would' get a PDA diagnosis, she 'won't' get one because they don't diagnose it now. Also, this video did nothing to actually explain what PDA is. I usually find your videos informative and interesting, but you lost me with this one. I understand what PDA is and how it presents, but this video made no reference to any of the main traits.
It is recognised just not widely
Although my son's consultant agreed with my descriptions of his presentations of PDA, the most she could add to his dx was demand avoidance traits.
Whilst this isn't right, because my NHS trust doesn't recognise PDA, yet my LA now do, at least with having traits added to his ASD dx means his EHCP reflects the different support he needs.
Couldn't get past the advertisement.
Thank you for talking about this, my partner has PDA and a significant emotional trauma history, if anyone has any advice for how I can help him and be a better partner to him I’m all ears because so far the only advice I’ve gotten is “just let them control everything “ and I don’t think giving up all of my own autonomy is really a great solution for a relationship but I’m always open to accommodating my partner’s needs so any ideas…wide open over here 😅
Let him have full control over his life and have a lot of say about decor, etc. Don’t overfocus on the demand avoidance- he is still Autistic. Engage in his special interests, accommodate sensory needs, etc. My PDA died down when my Autistic needs were met. Being able to accommodate my own sensory needs, buy noise cancelling headphones, buy bedding that actually comforts me, etc. If my Autistic needs are met, demands feel less threatening.
You are not describing pathological demand avoidance here! The clue is in the name! You are describing autism generally! I don't get it!
Agree
@SirHooty What do you mean? I made several statements; each one being followed by an exclamation mark (to emphasise my surprise). I started each new sentence with a capital! Please be specific - and tell me where the punctuation could be improved... I edited where the autocorrect inserted "aren't" - when I meant to type "are not", but apart from that - I don't get it! You should also consider that the interaction, comment, and point itself - are more important than punctuation, grammar, or syntax. What it English isn't my first language? What if I am dyslexic? Should I be berated for my writing skills? I am happy to have an erudite discussion on the matter... Finally, I suspect that you mean "correctly"; as opposed to properly within this context.
@SirHooty "Written" rather than wrote? The irony of spelling the word correct incorrectly! 🤣 My grammar, syntax and punctuation were fine! Do not mix numbers with words.
OK but I don't have autism/don't beleive it.... But I've had this
Being bugged to play drums by my partner made me not want to, or encouraged to play video games, I don't want to.
Its simple. You tell me to do something that makes no sense, interrupts me, and effects my personal comfort levels... I tell you to eff off.
Boom! PDA
I didn't find this to be quite clear. I think I have demand avoidance, but don't think it rises to the PDA level. But mostly your descriptions seemed vague. Try again. :)
This video could have been 3 minutes.
100❤
Takes the cake as most annoying
Dude. I realize you record at higher speed, but I’m AuDHD with MASSIVE processing issues. Your videos may only be five minutes long but I have to rewind like fifty times in order for the amalgamous gibberish to resolve itself into actual hearable speech. It’s not helpful, and it makes me not want to watch you.