CAPTURING THE BRITISH FLEET! Empire Total War: Darthmod - USA Campaign #2
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- #2 of My Empire Total War: Darthmod USA Campaign! Can we hit 2,000 likes for an Early Hour and a Half Special at part 5? Feel Free To Leave A Like If You're Enjoying The Series!
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35:03 - Small But Mighty!
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Hello noble lion! Sending you feels from the U.S.A.
He means part 3 right?
How did you make the camera so smooth? and also did you change some things ftom the preferences.txt to enhance the performance?
Dude I don't play total war and your 7 vs 2 and you used one ship come on you have 7 use all 7
@@nathanwoodard6598 no need to use all 7 when 1 will do :)
I just imagine the British feeling like they're entering a certain loss naval battle and the melancholy atmosphere as the ships approach when suddenly the entire American fleet turns and goes away and the British are just left confused as a single American ships stays back and wiggles back and forth in some strange attempt to battle.
the Royal Navys never gonna live this down
They had every tactical advantage in naval warfare. To be defeated by a nation that had more land but fewer troops must have been embarrassing. One does not humiliate his majesty and expect the British to not be angry.
In all fairness though, since the Americans did have more land, they were able to build their navy much more quickly.
Oh man, the agony of watching that naval battle! First off, as you were noticing toward the end, don't just let your ships sail off to leeward (downwind) away from the enemy fleet. You had 7 ships against 2, but you let 6 of your ships just sail off to nowhere and effectively get stuck there, leaving your one remaining ship to take on both enemies. Take a page out of Nelson's book, and remember above all to *keep near the enemy.* When you're moving your fleet in, try to work your way to the upwind side of the enemy fleet (or half on each side), and then you can dictate the action by turning downwind toward them. Above all, if your ships start to drift downwind away from the enemy, *stop them* before they get out of range and bring them back into the fight.
Also, please remember that "weigh anchor" means to *raise* the anchor and begin moving, not to drop the anchor and stop. Oh, and if you really want to sound nautical, a ship's masts are called the foremast (front), mainmast (the tallest one in the middle), and mizzenmast (rear).
damm, thats the worst naval battle i have ever seen....
Alright some tips, the first one is obvious:
-use all your ships, don't just fire a volley and sail away. that is not what you do with infantry so why do it with ships.
-It is better to avoid fire, wait for a reload and reengage with the same side instead of trying to change side
-In a battle like this where you outnumber your enemy so much, just slow down, park your ships and let them shoot up your opponent, you don't have to keep moving at full speed all the time.
-boarding ships can be useful in certain situations
-you can manually fire even if all guns are not reloaded
-use the wind direction to you advantage, put the enemy with its nose in the wind and they will have a hard time turning. meanwhile keep your side in the wind and you are able to doge and weave because your turning speed is much higher.
keep up the content! it is awesome
U certainly turned a 7v2 in your favour into a 2v1 in the enemies favour. Not good. U never, ever, ever want to turn your ships stern to the enemy, and the bow only when you close on them.
Wind.....it doesn't matter particularly if you can turn and catch the wind, what matters is who is turning into the wind trying to force battle, because turning with the wind means you can do,it fast, turning into the wind means you do,it slow. You spent the entire battle at a wind disadvantage. All you had to do was pass the British ships at the start of the battle and the windgage was yours. You want the wind passing over your ships first. Doesn't matter what direction, doesn't matter what speed, if the wind hits your ships first, then turning downwind means engaging the enemy and doing your stuff fast.....having the wind pass over the enemy ships first means you are turning into the wind to engage, and you do all your stuff slow.
Instead of pounding the disabled ship from the bow, get behind and hit it from astern with a volley of round shot to create holes in the hull, then hit it with grapeshot to kill the crew though the destroyed hull. hitting the ship from behind works better because it takes more dammage, which also causes a greater morale penalty. Also, you should have drew the undamaged enemy ship away immediatly after destroying the first mast. The dismasted ship would not be able to keep up, even with just a single mast missing.
Exactly. That was painful to watch. That much advantage in gunmetal, should have been a turkey shoot. That being said, Lionheart, read some C.S Forester (Horatio Hornblower series) and you'll get a feel for this. Alexander Kent's (Richard Bolitho series) is also good. They explain the uses the different types of cannons are put to, and flesh out more than 'chain shot, sails' and the like. No one here gives a damn if you know port from starboard, but I think with a bit of a better feel for naval engagements, the game will be much more fun for you, as well, once it's mastered. Well, that is, unless the game decides to turn the Constitution into a sloop. But yes, try and capture them, you can always use more ships.
I never really excelled at naval battles but that shit took WAY to long 😂 took up almost the entire episode lol
or just auto resolve if u are very bad like me so the ai wins the battle :D
Your naval skills are so astonishingly bad that the ai is just stunned and doesn’t know what to do
In which case sounds like I'm a Naval Master! :P
They aren’t bad
The Masters of the Seas-pt.1:
Johnn Berwick came from a long line of sailors. His grandfather has commandeered his own warship in the Seven Years' War and his father before him was the renowned Jonas Berwick, who had sailed all the way to India and back in a matter of one year. Jonathan's father had been first mate in the famous second-rate ship Executor in the War for Independence. Jonathan had been sailing since he was 10 years old, when he had been a deckhand to his father's ship in his voyage to the Caribbean Islands. So when he heard George Cooper shouting in the town's square about the declaration of war, Jonathan immediately thought to join the crew of a ship.
His chance came when his older brother Thomas, an already successful sailor at 20 and 7 years of age, told him that he would be captaining a frigate of 24 guns called Dolphin.
"And I want you to be my first mate," Thomas said.
"Me?" asked John, incredulous.
"You may be young, but you're my blood, and I know I can trust you. You can navigate almost as well as I can, and you're handy with that rifle of yours," explained Thomas. "So, are you up for it?"
John nodded in enthusiasm.
"Good. We're sailing in a fortnight, so pack your things and say your farewells.Be sure to tell mother that you'll try and be safe, or she'll never start bothering you about it until you're gone," his brother added.
"And what of father?"
"Father will understand. He'll have Peter at home to help him with his company. Berwick & Co. is going to need more employees since so many are going to war."
John nodded again, then headed home, leaving Thomas at the market.
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Two weeks later, Dolphin set sail with the rest of the Republican fleet, commanded by Admiral John Barry. Spies had reported that a British fleet was staying at a port neat Cuba, and Washington had ordered the fleet down there to attack and capture the ships.
John leaned over the portside railing of the warship, waving goodbye to his mother, little brother, and father. Turning to his older brother, he grinned.
"Let's go teach those British a lesson."
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THWOOM
A column of water shot into the air as a cannon ball from Phoebe landed not fifty feet away from Dolphin. The salty water showered down on John's head. He clutched the hilt of the saber in on his right, pale with fear.
Over the roar of the cannons, he heard Thomas shout at the helmsman, "Steer to starboard!"
Then, turning to his younger brother, "Give 'em a broadside!"
John nodded, the. Roared out the command, "FIRE THE PORTSIDE CANNONS!"
In answer came a deafening sound as the cannons fired chain shot at the sails of Phoebe. They were rewarded with the sight of torn sails. The helmsman heaved the wheel to the right, and Dolphin responded with ease. The frigate was a thing of beauty, John thought to himself.
His thoughts were interrupted by the sound a cracking wood. He turned to see the rear mast of Marlborough going down. The Valiant had landed another successful volley. A cheer ran through the crew and John smiled with relief. He saw Ceres, Congress, Bruizer, and the flagship, Actaeon following. This would be quite an easy battle.
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Dolphin fired yet another round of grapeshot onto the deck of Marlborough, spraying small, spherical pieces of lead. He saw more men go down. Their screams could be heard from where the Dolphin lay anchor. Then again, John thought to himself, the screams of the four men of Dolphin's crew were a deal louder. They had gone down when a stray cannon ball had crashed into the Dolphin sending shrapnel of metal and wood across the deck. The four men that lay on the deck, dying, were the unfortunate receptors of the shrapnel.
Thomas nudged John and pointed at Valiant going in to board the British 5th rate.
"You want to help them out?"
John nodded, grabbed his rifle and loaded it. Taking aim at who he assumed was the captain, he fired. The man fell with a cry. Confusion and terror ran through the deck of Marlborough as the crew saw their captain go down. It was only a few minutes before the men of the Valiant were on board the ship and cutting through what remained of the crew.
As John saw man after man fall to bloody sabers and the bullets that rained down from muskets, he felt a feeling of revulsion course through him. It was the first time he'd seen a battle, or a man die in a fight. He'd seen and heard the men from Phoebe fall, then surrender to the American ships, and he knew the terrible fighting would be over soon.
Another man fell screaming from the deck of Marlborough, clutching his chest. John smiled grimly.
An easy battle.
The primary tactic of this time period was called "Crossing the T". This means that the ideal situation is where all of your broadsides are facing either their lead ship's bow, or their rear ship's stern. From that position, all of your ships can fire, while at most, only one of theirs can fire at you. Of course, they're trying to do the same thing. So, it turns into a constant maneuvering match.
Here's what I tend to do with these battles:
1) I have my group approach and angle off to the side, sort of like you did, but I do it sooner so they can maintain formation.
2) I often give manual commands, but then I always put them back into formation afterwards.
3) The wind is important, but you have to go around the enemy, so you'll always be against the wind at some points. Put more focus on positioning.
4) If you have a situation like you did, where a bunch of ships are just sitting over on the side, then draw a box around them all and right click on an enemy so they at least do something. Then you can start refining your orders while they're under way.
5) Letting the AI control those other ships also means you can focus on manually controlling one or two ships yourself and still have those other ships help out.
6) Alternatively, you could have drawn a box around all those ships, put them into formation, and just given them a move order to sail against the wind past the rear enemy's stern. They move slowly against the wind, but they still move.
5) If the enemy stops, and you have superiority, it's ok to just stop near them and blast away while stationary.
6) Ships have the least armor in the rear.
7) It's ok to slow down time to give orders and then return it to normal speed again.
8) You kept trying to take down all of the masts, but once the white bar is depleted, the ship is already incapable of moving, so you aren't actually accomplishing anything by continuing to fire chain shot. The white bar represents their sails. That's when it's time to change targets or switch to grape shot to kill some crew before boarding.
9) There's no reason not to put a group of ships into a formation and draw a line to get them to all face broadside, rather than turning each ship individually. That's like telling each infantry unit to change facing one at a time. :)
10) You have to come up alongside to board. You can't do it from the bow or stern. When your ships are so packed together, they can't move into position. Be sure you click on the boarding button first and then right click on the enemy ship.
11) You would have won boarding easily with your large ship far far earlier.
12) If you aren't aware, captured British ships will retain their RoF bonus, and captured French ships will retain their higher accuracy bonus.
Overall, I would say the best way to get better would be to put your ships into groups of 3 ships each, and play as if it's impossible to take them out of formation. A formation of three ships is short, so they're easier to control. Learn to use them that way and you'll get at least somewhat better automatically. Get used to the ships maintaining more space between them, because that's what they're supposed to do.
I know I'm nearly 2 years late, but watching lion do naval battles is really hard. I would have just gone down both sides of a ship with full broadsides of chain and balls.
You won the first naval battle because the enemy captain with his spyglass fell back and died of laughter. The battle had all the grace of a chimpanzee eating spaghetti at a royal ball.
I am loving this campaign LH! Looking forward to watching this episode! :)
Hey Mala😂
@@nathanbrockmeier6949 Hey there Nathan my friend :)
Arrrh! The naval battle! Just in time after I re-watch "Master and Commander"!
Thanks Lionheart!
P.S. Speaking of: Can you name ships?
Yes u can name ships
yes Ships can be named
Qutee needs a ship tag :D
@@kalsaari4670 Exactly!
Hey Lionheart! A quick and easy way I capture ships in ETW/NTW is to chain shot their masts. The morale goes down FAST, and then I board them keep broadsiding them from the other side.
Also I cant wait to see the two names I put in the qt for troops swamp fox brigade and palmtree fort defenders. Palmtree cause my state flag for south carolina has one on it and a little history during the revolution we built forts made from plamtrees as seaside forts cause when a cannonball would hit a palmtree instead of blowing splinters everywhere when hit they would actually sink into the wood or bounce off only slightly punching into the wood
First third age and now this, hell yeah
Call one of the regiment the 13th Lion Musketers(As the 13 states that USA was born and there great leader Lion heart)
Love the naval battles!!! PLEASE SHOW MORE OF THEM IN YOUR FUTURE EPISODES ❤️👌🚣♀️
26:40 Cannon boy just chillin like
''Me? A enemy? What are you talking about. I'm the cook on this ship"
Naval tip for grape shot: Try to first riddle their hull with holes using round shot to make grape shot much more effective. Works best on the rear of the ship.
Almost 26 minutes of naval battle against 2 ships? Here's some tips for testing Lionheart:
1- I use Sixth and Fifth rates to harass the enemy ships with chain shot and grape shot, respectively.
2- Try to go with two lines of ships: 1 with heavier ships (third,second and first rates) and one with lighter ships(sixth,fifth rates)
3-My Fourth rates always support both lines
3.1-Fourth rates that supports lighter ships, always go with normal shot
3.2-Fourth rates that supports heavier ships always go with chain shot
Watching this makes me excited for ultimate admiral
For the naval battle, one specific tip is that you should have deployed in that first battle more to the left of the map. That way, the enemy has to turn into the wind to reach you which makes them very unmaneuvrable
Dragoon- Stuart Battalion
Line Infantry- Stonewall Battalion
Marines/Rangers- Lee Battalion
(if you didn't notice I love my civil war Generals lol)
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lionhearts alt
@@shpongle7322 who the f you calling a alt
You'd be far more effective in that situation keeping your line formation together and getting to the side of the wind and sailing your whole line down his line. You out number and outgun him. Just pound the hell out of him. Make him come to you. If you had adjusted a little to the left you might have gotten far enough in front of him that you might have been able to cross the "T", and one you get past his line stear to his rear and hit him in the rear with your broadsides. In the end just put them in a line and sail them that way until you have broken up their line then use your faster boats to chase down the withdrawing boats.
I said it last episode and I’ll say it again. Make a massive crusade against monarchies!
It makes more sense in my mind anyway.
Baron Von Blucher I want to see a monarch USA
@@vladimirseesyouwatchyourba8928 NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!
What was the point in leaving the UK?
Vladimir can see you Watch your back death to the monarchy
The only naval suggestion I have is to diversify what ammo your ships use(when you outnumber the enemy and are trying to capture their ships) having 2 shooting cannonballs, 2 shooting chain, and 2 smaller ships using grapeshot will give you the best chance of capturing their ships. The solid balls destroy enemy cannons so they do less damage to your ships while you're boarding them.
I guess it's better to take advantage of your numbers in a naval battle. When I am playing a nation, one thing I do is the pincer attack, grouping ships to ensure a coordinated attack on both flanks.
I love this series Lion! Your naval battles get better and better, I can't wait for next episode!
“I’m going to expose my bottom to him” 😂
That "bat" is a belaying pin, used to tie down the lines from rigging.... also to crack some skulls!
As a challenge, you chould only occupy American cities and try to unite all of America (North, South, and the Caribbean)
No! Take all of the American theater!
@@grantexploit5903 that's what I said
You aren’t that bad lion heart. Hopefully this makes you feel better. I lost a similar naval battle. I haven’t touched empire since. I’m too ashamed.
I can suggest some names
Washington's boys (minutemen)
Pennsylvania bucktails (special unit)
Boston harlequins(infantry)
Homegrown blues (militia)
Carolina guard(provincial cavalry)
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He will only take names in the qt that is linked in the description if you want your names added in
Best naval tactic- take one ship, and run away. Run as far as you can, try not to get cornered at the edges of the map. Every few minutes quickly turn about and fire in a chain shot. Then turn back and run. Once all of their mats are broken, cautiously approach and shoot em up
*masts
Try to have a ship more than the enemy. Try to use two ships with the ball and chain shot (not sure if that’s a technical term) to try to disable the enemy vessels while a few other ships hit them with the little pellet things (also can’t remember the name) while this is all going on keep you most crewed ship at a dance distance but close enough to join in at short notice. Once all enemy vessels are disabled and their crews are depleted then you can bored a ship at a time with you primary vessel or even the ships that were involved in the fighting then try to take each ship. Hope this has Helped I love the content.
Also keep your side in the wind and their nose in the wind it reduces their movement and ups yours
Loving it lion heart! U should of started more on the left. And send in only in short waves of ships, so u can handle the attract,?
Wow! a 30 min naval battle against 2 ships..... I guess I wasn't expecting that...
By the way, should pronounce Québec without the U, ('Kébec', rather than 'Kwébec') as 'QU' sounds the same as 'K', in case you are interested to know, Lionheart :D
Go make it a monarchie, it is nice ti see an alternate history!
I love your content!
That command of ships was truly worthy of a Japanese Admiral during Leyte Gulf.
Liked 😁
In regards to naval tactics of the era, you can’t really go wrong with line astern
You could use Fall of the Samurai to practice naval combat. Easier to maneuver with steam boats but pretty much the same tactics.
45:43 That is exactly why horse-arti is useful
Lionheart, hope you are reading this !!!! You best keep a cheap unit in each port, then it cant be damaged by fleets, only blocking trade.
Line of fire, put them in a line and while the enemy is reloading you circle them in one line with a boat always firing.
Oh this guy act like spiderman 😆
Have you called your ship boaty mc boat face. Luv you
YEET
so you dont start off with chain shot. much like grapeshot you change when closer. i found its better to position so your approach is guided by the wind. so you should have been further left. enabling you to speed towards the enemy "line" and "cross the 'T' " this will give you the length of the boat to slash sails with chain shot. with the wind at your back you can then maneuver better to perhaps get another decisive volley off to really cripple them. then you can circle them like sharks in the water. getting good grapeshot off to mow down the crew and board to capture.
lionheart that fisrt naval battle :D :D this is empire total war its not about not letting them shoot at you ships its about letting all your ships fire at enemy :D in those naval battles you dont need to use strategy that much its mostly about micromanegment of all your ships and getting as much cannon balls rolling as you can :D :D otherwise its great to have you play empire again :) ;)
Monarchy pls
No, constitutional republic
You have too many units (ships) to micromanage. Put them in formation and move the formation. The only reason to break formation is to send ships to board or take possession of struck ships.
Are these mods on steam? They look awesome the graphics and sounds.. oooh what an enjoyment to watch💖
he lets his ships get ot far out of the battle zone
Once engaged keep them engaged do not worry about wind
In the battle he plow it when it let them go on by he should of turned then to starboard and ranked them with canister
here in the US, we hold our freedom with great honor
America!
First one that liked! Har been a long long time since being the first
If u want to board and capture ships grape shot will help with ur chain shot
Just muster a navy full of 1st-rates if you can!!!
Does darthmod do anything to improve naval battles in empire? Cause I remember them being famously bad
In the first battle you could have circled them when they were close together with your fleet
Can you please reply what song was at the start because that is a fucking awesome song
Hey I know this is a late comment but idk if it’s the same in darth mod as in vanilla Napoleon but when u use chain shot I find it more effective to put your broadside facing the bow of the enemy ship. And can u show a tutorial on how to install darthmod
Watching your naval battles is immensely painful lol
oh one more thing keep the native american research building ( Ithink its called a meetinghut Not sure) they dont give unhappy population
ur 2nd Lt meds more expenses with those cannon But hen then that was the case in those day it was all OJT for those kids of 16 or so
All American-Infantry
Lincoln's Legion-Skirmishers
LionHeart a trick when fighting a Naval Battle is DONT KEEP YOUR SHIPS TURNING IN CIRCLES, it is easier to just let the men do their thing and it has been proven to do more damage
but if I don't turn them they wont be lined up to fire broadsides! :P
keep then running wider circles, if they stay tight in real life it would tear up the ship
You said feel free to leave a dislike so I liked the video
That could have been over in 10 minutes had you kept your force together instead of branching off individual ships for an imaginary and unnecessary wind advantage.
Who holds a vote to determine whether or not to end the republic? You sound like a crazy person!
Austin Shanks I know it’s very republican don’t you think?
@@lukeb1663 Don't make things so political like that. Go for the Star Wars joke. "It's very Palpatine isn't it?". :P
Now wanting to come across mean, but ... I really am bad at naval, hate it, damn weather gauge, slow ass movement, and when so many ships involved it ends up in a clusterfuck...but ...I think I have still a better grasp at this...all you need is to just block off the enemy two ships, await them with open gun ports, make sure the other ships eventually surround them, and give them hell from as many sides as possible...still, naval battles just suck ...
Would you consider becoming a constitutional monarchy?
30:36 I didn’t know Snape played total war!
You're so poor at micro-managing ships, holy Hell! xD
Grape shot works best after several broadsides, so cannonballs are always the best option when bow/stern camping.
like basically Cavalry to me so I treat them the same clearly! :P
Naval battles are difficult
Hugo Garza no, they’re not.
Takes entire fleet tries to kill two line ships with one of his own nice one. Rest of the fleet are just spectators
Nay is my vote
you can´t destroy a farm and build a university farms can only be farms what you ned is a town they can be school-church tavern and industri/ weaver or metalworks ports can only be naval fishery or trade
He should get the Constitution it’s an absolute tank
Just gotta ask I'm not a veteran total war player but you left 90% of your ships on the wrong side of the battle. If you have overwhelming numbers like that throw your ships in a line and volly fire. PS. Its a lot better to just wait for the reload then to lose the wind turning ur ships constantly.
Why Tomas Jefferson during his reign did not want a navy
Man that naval battle was hard to watch. Why did you give up a numerically superior advantage by fighting 2v1 for half the battle?
35:05 For Crown and Country xD
i expect you to be getting the uss constitution unique ship lionheart or you will not be american enough for and american campaign
For the people
Good bloody lord you change the direction of where your ships are going more times than you really should just pick where u want them to go and let it be you shouldnt change your mind 5 times per ship
Wow watching ur naval is painful !
Unit name. Damn Yankees.
Woah! Fix your ministers sir!!
should have keep the ships togather! more forepower the bater!
Are you going to conquer the whole map? If you aren't that is something you should consider.
Dude yr posting empire total war in 2019 and getting good views nice.
dude.....that naval battle.......ugh......i just had to fast forward.......just an eternity to take two vessels.
sucks they lost the naval battle it is much better than the way they do sieges now
...Terrible naval battle and tactics split their forces... loop around like you said... you had overwhelming odds in your favor and you let them go two vs two which is why you lost that ship. Then, you left all your other ships turning the wrong way into the wind... poor micromanagement. Normally I really like your battles...but this one...? Horatio Nelson was one of the top naval commanders around that time. Reading up on his strategies and tactics may be helpful.
How many times will these Brits learn. America never has, and never will be. The only crown allowed is the one from a Burger King kid's meal.
@LIONHEARTX How can i download Darthmod?
Long live USA a democracy