They didn't do 3rd row because of the hybrid battery. GX is currently gas only. I only know because I wanted a hybrid 4runner but only the gas models get the 3rd row! Maybe when tech improves and batteries get smaller.
In Australia we have the third row on top of the battery system..... the design and set up is terrible. it sits 25cm above what would have been a flat floor with spaces all around to lose things into.... it has to be seen to be believed (it is terrible for a premium cost vehicle)
Wow, great reveiw. I'm not a fan at all now. I just traded in my GX460 for just about all the same reasons. I ended up with a 2013 Sequoia and I LOVE it!! It has everything and then some.
It’s definitely flawed, no disputing that. But it’s also objectively good looking and undeniably cool. Just wish it offered the 3.4tt V6 in its GX550 sister.
Good looking is highly subjective. It looks like arse.. and the doors close with the tinniest sound that makes my Subaru feel solid in comparison. After I sat in the 250, walking back and getting back into my grenadier felt like a couple tiers upgrade in terms of solidity
With all due respect, the 2nd row legroom issue is caused by having seats in modest recline while also pushed back for tall driver. I don’t disagree with majority of your points, but as a 6’5” dad I know that reclining seats even slightly has big impact on knee room angles / rear facing clearance when 2nd row bench is setup in elevated stadium seating position. I love your channel and not trying to be critical, but just wanted to flag for other tall viewers out there.
Instead of bringing back Land Cruiser with a lower price tag, they brought back the next gen fj cruiser but called it a Land Cruiser so that they could raise the price 😊
@ yeah, at least it's got the 2.8 diesel without all the unreliable emissions equipment in other countries. a 4 cylinder gasser is just absurd for a vehicle of this size.
Hi, Kelly! When will the 2025 Kia carnival review be available on the channel? Will it be about both the hybrid and regular option? Thank you for your great videos as always!!
My wife hates hates that middle seat since she has to get back there often to tend to the infant, but as a family adventure vehicle it is absolutely fun and capable.
Can you do the 2025 bronco, they added vents. Also in your previous bronco videos, I didn’t see much of an infant seat discussion. Curious if bronco would be okay if we already had a 2025 and looking at 1-2 kids a few years from now
The Japanese market version gets a 7 passenger option. The USA got the hybrid with the giant battery in the back. I love the look of these, but I’m still leaning towards the Bronco.
I own a Sequoia 2025 and must say, its really nice inside. You have plenty of space ( ummm unless you look for trunk space), but its wide, its' fast, and navigates really nice. The only thing is trunk, and the width for parking it around in a busy city. It feels more like a truck then a car. But, compared to the Squeezed Landcruiser, - I would describe the landcruiser ( the new one ) as a LEGO SUV. They lowered the standard for this car big time, ( i am a Toyota FAN ), decreased the size, shrunk it big time, and put a hybrid battery that takes a bunch of space. In the Sequoia, putting stuff in the back is horrible. I recently had someone with a wheelchair visit for some time,and it was horrible. Lifting the wheelchair and putting it on top of the folder 3rd row was the worst !!!!! None of this would happen in a PILOT, or Grand Highlander. Fuel economy is horrible too, but that is expected from a twin turbo 6 cylinder (Sequoia), and 4 cylinder for a landcruiser. (is fast, lots of pickup but it feels narrow and like 1985 Toyota). There are options out there but the reliability of Toyota is nowhere to be found. You can get any other car, but you will be spending in repairs as they approach the 60k. Think well before investing in a LC or Sequoia, what your needs are, and how you would feel dealing with the small negatives every day, if you need to or have to.
Couldn’t do the third row in the LC because the hybrid battery is back there. The GX doesn’t have that. And yes, I agree the second row should be on a track.
FJ Cruiser at Land Cruiser Pricing... This is NOT a land Cruiser regardless of what Toyota wants people to believe. Toyota has really lost it's way with providing quality very capable vehicles at an affordable price. all the cheap plasticky bits remain yet the price point has sky rocketed. Literally creating 3 vehicles off the exact same parts bin (Tacoma, 4Runner, Land Cruiser) and zero cost savings to the buyer.
I was one of the first people to see the new Land Cruisers on my local Toyota lot. I just so happened to be there on the exact day the first models were delivered, and I was so excited to see it! I remember opening the second row door and seeing how narrow the middle seat was, and veing immediately confused because a 5-passenger 4runner has a wider middle seat. I quickly realized that you have a good 2 or 3 inches of bench near the doors that's pretty much useless. I was disappointed! Who made that choice?
Toyota is overdoing the badge engineering. Reminds me of the Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac and Oldsmobile days when each brand carried their version of essentially the same vehicle. The next issue Toyota has is they leave off desired features or handicap one vehicle from another in order to help differentiate it. Examples are lockers, premium seats and sound, 3rd row seating, bigger engines, etc. 4Runner, Land Cruiser, GX550, Sequoia and LX600 all share the same platform. The 4R, LC and GX are virtually identical in dimension with the 4R having slightly different lines from the nearly identical boxy LC & GX. I wish they would have created a Land Cruiser brand to be sold by Toyota - bring a truck variant like they have in Australia. Then sell the 4Runner as the entry LC model then offer a slightly larger more powerful / capable unit (ie Prado 300) as the larger model. Lexus can have the exact same vehicles except they add what Lexus does which is sound proofing / deadening materials, better interior finishes, better audio, longer warranty, a couple of really sharp colors, etc. Instead nobody is happy as every vehicle is missing something.
This is a Prado car and not the Land Cruiser Look for the difference between Land Cruiser and Prado The difference is significant in size, shape and machane
Too small, too expensive for what it is, grossly under-powered, and the ridiculous hybrid battery makes the rear load area 6 inches higher than it should be. I like the way it looks, but there are just so many bad decisions in this thing I'd never consider one.
@@jensdriller1160 - I realize you failed reading comprehension in school, but I didn't say anything about off-road performance in my OP. Also, the points made in my OP are facts, not opinions. The lovely lady in this video demonstrated why it's entirely too small and cramped for most people. When asked what they thought of the LC, the salesmen at my local Toyota dealership called it overpriced trash. And Hagerty recently did an in-depth review of why this is one of the worst power trains Toyota has ever put in one of their vehicles. They also demonstrate how the battery ruins the rear cargo compartment and why the GX550 is the only true LC on the market. I realize you've drunk the Kool-Aid, but if you're going to make obtuse, puerile comments like that, you should really learn to read properly.
@@jensdriller1160 - You realize the car is not strictly for off-roading, right? Just like 99% of Wranglers never see a trail, 99% of these LCs won't leave the pavement, which is where they fail pretty badly. It has tons of power off road because it's constantly in low range, exclusively using it's EV motor, which provides more torque than the tiny ICE engine ever could. In fact, that tiny ICE engine would never move those 40s without it. Once you get past about 1700 RPM, the EV motor is done and all that's left is the ICE engine, leaving the LC significantly under-powered where it'll spend the vast majority of its life...on the road. You keep trying to return to one very specific use case, which most LCs will never see and literally no one else was talking about in this video or my OP, to try to justify your fanaticism. Which brings us back to reading comprehension, again. You have to learn to look at these things as a whole instead of ignoring 95% the facts and just cherry-picking one detail, saying that makes the whole thing great. You're just not making sense. But I'm not here to deprogram you. If you want to ignore reality because that one shiny detail has you mesmerized, that's on you. They say ignorance is bliss.
@ - LOL, you've literally just accused me of everything YOU'VE been doing this entire discussion. Off-road use was never mentioned in my OP, but YOU pivoted the argument there as the only instance you could find where the LC performed well, repeating talking points by other reviewers whose (not who's) maxim is to go viral. You literally haven't provided a single counter point with any real data in it, just cult fanboy drivel and fiction. On the other hand, I've shown exactly why the points I made not only have merit, but are actually true. If you like the LC, that's fine, you do you. Just don't try to gaslight or troll everyone else.
Toyota has the Highlander,Grand Highlander, and Sienna for people with young children. Land Cruiser and 4Runner are for offroading and Sequoia is for towing/light offroading. If you have 2+ young children and you want to drive the cool offroading SUV singles/childless couples are driving then you will have to make some sacrifices.
This isn’t family car. So majority of your points , technically they are not valid. Also if people can buy this $100k in canada for this Land Cruiser, i am pretty sure they are able to afford another 3 row suv. Also, I respect how you want to use this car as a family car but this isn’t the right choice. Land cruiser is a great product of Toyota. Period
The land cruiser is a pathetic "family" car.... Great off roader but pathetic at family duties.... save your money and get a 25 PILOT TRAILSPORT..... tons of more legroom in all rows and will take you around some mild trails and mild off roading.
Correct. I’m not looking at this vehicle for my family. The entire point of my channel is to review cars from the perspective of a family. Families come in all shapes and sizes!
Majority of vehicles don’t have 3 rows, no car fits everyone’s needs. If this vehicle doesn’t suit your needs, don’t buy it. I myself don’t want a semi sized vehicle to drive around. Get a mini-van women maybe that will satisfy you.
They didn't do 3rd row because of the hybrid battery. GX is currently gas only. I only know because I wanted a hybrid 4runner but only the gas models get the 3rd row! Maybe when tech improves and batteries get smaller.
In Australia we have the third row on top of the battery system..... the design and set up is terrible. it sits 25cm above what would have been a flat floor with spaces all around to lose things into.... it has to be seen to be believed (it is terrible for a premium cost vehicle)
In other part of the world, you can have both hybrid and 3rd row. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but there’s options
Wow, great reveiw. I'm not a fan at all now. I just traded in my GX460 for just about all the same reasons. I ended up with a 2013 Sequoia and I LOVE it!! It has everything and then some.
It’s definitely flawed, no disputing that. But it’s also objectively good looking and undeniably cool. Just wish it offered the 3.4tt V6 in its GX550 sister.
Good looking is highly subjective. It looks like arse.. and the doors close with the tinniest sound that makes my Subaru feel solid in comparison. After I sat in the 250, walking back and getting back into my grenadier felt like a couple tiers upgrade in terms of solidity
I like how your jacket matches the Color of the car
Perfect honest review. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
With all due respect, the 2nd row legroom issue is caused by having seats in modest recline while also pushed back for tall driver. I don’t disagree with majority of your points, but as a 6’5” dad I know that reclining seats even slightly has big impact on knee room angles / rear facing clearance when 2nd row bench is setup in elevated stadium seating position. I love your channel and not trying to be critical, but just wanted to flag for other tall viewers out there.
Instead of bringing back Land Cruiser with a lower price tag, they brought back the next gen fj cruiser but called it a Land Cruiser so that they could raise the price 😊
They don't call this generation the McLandcruiser for nothin. "We have Landcruiser at home."
@@Slythey Right, this model is called Prado in other markets but Land Cruise in the US
@ yeah, at least it's got the 2.8 diesel without all the unreliable emissions equipment in other countries. a 4 cylinder gasser is just absurd for a vehicle of this size.
@ doesn’t matter. If it sells, it goes. it will sell. You will see the numbers by the end of year
@ yup- cosmetics sell cars, not quality or reliability.
Can you do a 3 across rear seats in a grand highlander?
"toyota is so bad at building functional cars" It's so true! I have a RAV4 and some things I'm just like who approved this?!
Hi, Kelly! When will the 2025 Kia carnival review be available on the channel? Will it be about both the hybrid and regular option? Thank you for your great videos as always!!
Reminds me of my wedding night 5:45
Thank you for saying it 👏🏽 loved Toyota/Lexus veg until my family started growing.
Can we get a link for the raincoat? So cute!
Can you do the lexus gx 550?
My wife hates hates that middle seat since she has to get back there often to tend to the infant, but as a family adventure vehicle it is absolutely fun and capable.
Can you do the 2025 bronco, they added vents.
Also in your previous bronco videos, I didn’t see much of an infant seat discussion. Curious if bronco would be okay if we already had a 2025 and looking at 1-2 kids a few years from now
GX is gas only and does not require the large battery stack in the rear cargo area.
I am dissapointed! The let-down tailgate is gone. My series 100 will still continue work as my fully gas and heavy hybrid mix of truck/SUV.
The Japanese market version gets a 7 passenger option. The USA got the hybrid with the giant battery in the back. I love the look of these, but I’m still leaning towards the Bronco.
The Australian version got a small battery in the back with a huge cover that's the same as the one in America! Toyota has lost the plot.
I own a Sequoia 2025 and must say, its really nice inside. You have plenty of space ( ummm unless you look for trunk space), but its wide, its' fast, and navigates really nice. The only thing is trunk, and the width for parking it around in a busy city. It feels more like a truck then a car. But, compared to the Squeezed Landcruiser, - I would describe the landcruiser ( the new one ) as a LEGO SUV. They lowered the standard for this car big time, ( i am a Toyota FAN ), decreased the size, shrunk it big time, and put a hybrid battery that takes a bunch of space.
In the Sequoia, putting stuff in the back is horrible. I recently had someone with a wheelchair visit for some time,and it was horrible. Lifting the wheelchair and putting it on top of the folder 3rd row was the worst !!!!! None of this would happen in a PILOT, or Grand Highlander.
Fuel economy is horrible too, but that is expected from a twin turbo 6 cylinder (Sequoia), and 4 cylinder for a landcruiser. (is fast, lots of pickup but it feels narrow and like 1985 Toyota).
There are options out there but the reliability of Toyota is nowhere to be found. You can get any other car, but you will be spending in repairs as they approach the 60k.
Think well before investing in a LC or Sequoia, what your needs are, and how you would feel dealing with the small negatives every day, if you need to or have to.
Great review.
Glad you enjoyed it
Couldn’t do the third row in the LC because the hybrid battery is back there. The GX doesn’t have that. And yes, I agree the second row should be on a track.
Great review love the seats the color of the seats are not too bad
FJ Cruiser at Land Cruiser Pricing... This is NOT a land Cruiser regardless of what Toyota wants people to believe. Toyota has really lost it's way with providing quality very capable vehicles at an affordable price. all the cheap plasticky bits remain yet the price point has sky rocketed. Literally creating 3 vehicles off the exact same parts bin (Tacoma, 4Runner, Land Cruiser) and zero cost savings to the buyer.
You just killed this car for me! And I have teenagers....... The engine sucks......... they need to make this with a V6..... no hybird
Yes - total miss not having the 3rd row in the Land Cruiser.
Great review Mrs Car mom. I Love toyota , but i think some of there vehicles are made more for little skinny Japanese ppl :(
I was one of the first people to see the new Land Cruisers on my local Toyota lot. I just so happened to be there on the exact day the first models were delivered, and I was so excited to see it! I remember opening the second row door and seeing how narrow the middle seat was, and veing immediately confused because a 5-passenger 4runner has a wider middle seat. I quickly realized that you have a good 2 or 3 inches of bench near the doors that's pretty much useless. I was disappointed! Who made that choice?
Kelly just described Toyota perfectly: "They are so good (Toyota) at building reliable cars, and they are so bad at building functional cars".
So its a ford explorer. gotcha.
You can’t put a lot of weight in the back
Toyota is overdoing the badge engineering. Reminds me of the Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac and Oldsmobile days when each brand carried their version of essentially the same vehicle. The next issue Toyota has is they leave off desired features or handicap one vehicle from another in order to help differentiate it. Examples are lockers, premium seats and sound, 3rd row seating, bigger engines, etc. 4Runner, Land Cruiser, GX550, Sequoia and LX600 all share the same platform. The 4R, LC and GX are virtually identical in dimension with the 4R having slightly different lines from the nearly identical boxy LC & GX. I wish they would have created a Land Cruiser brand to be sold by Toyota - bring a truck variant like they have in Australia. Then sell the 4Runner as the entry LC model then offer a slightly larger more powerful / capable unit (ie Prado 300) as the larger model. Lexus can have the exact same vehicles except they add what Lexus does which is sound proofing / deadening materials, better interior finishes, better audio, longer warranty, a couple of really sharp colors, etc. Instead nobody is happy as every vehicle is missing something.
If you need a third row, you should buy a minivan. For all the US version LC250's flaws, lack of a third row isn't one of them.
This is a Prado car and not the Land Cruiser
Look for the difference between Land Cruiser and Prado
The difference is significant in size, shape and machane
Too small, too expensive for what it is, grossly under-powered, and the ridiculous hybrid battery makes the rear load area 6 inches higher than it should be. I like the way it looks, but there are just so many bad decisions in this thing I'd never consider one.
@@jensdriller1160 - I realize you failed reading comprehension in school, but I didn't say anything about off-road performance in my OP. Also, the points made in my OP are facts, not opinions. The lovely lady in this video demonstrated why it's entirely too small and cramped for most people. When asked what they thought of the LC, the salesmen at my local Toyota dealership called it overpriced trash. And Hagerty recently did an in-depth review of why this is one of the worst power trains Toyota has ever put in one of their vehicles. They also demonstrate how the battery ruins the rear cargo compartment and why the GX550 is the only true LC on the market.
I realize you've drunk the Kool-Aid, but if you're going to make obtuse, puerile comments like that, you should really learn to read properly.
@@jensdriller1160 - You realize the car is not strictly for off-roading, right? Just like 99% of Wranglers never see a trail, 99% of these LCs won't leave the pavement, which is where they fail pretty badly. It has tons of power off road because it's constantly in low range, exclusively using it's EV motor, which provides more torque than the tiny ICE engine ever could. In fact, that tiny ICE engine would never move those 40s without it. Once you get past about 1700 RPM, the EV motor is done and all that's left is the ICE engine, leaving the LC significantly under-powered where it'll spend the vast majority of its life...on the road.
You keep trying to return to one very specific use case, which most LCs will never see and literally no one else was talking about in this video or my OP, to try to justify your fanaticism. Which brings us back to reading comprehension, again.
You have to learn to look at these things as a whole instead of ignoring 95% the facts and just cherry-picking one detail, saying that makes the whole thing great. You're just not making sense. But I'm not here to deprogram you. If you want to ignore reality because that one shiny detail has you mesmerized, that's on you. They say ignorance is bliss.
@ - LOL, you've literally just accused me of everything YOU'VE been doing this entire discussion.
Off-road use was never mentioned in my OP, but YOU pivoted the argument there as the only instance you could find where the LC performed well, repeating talking points by other reviewers whose (not who's) maxim is to go viral. You literally haven't provided a single counter point with any real data in it, just cult fanboy drivel and fiction. On the other hand, I've shown exactly why the points I made not only have merit, but are actually true.
If you like the LC, that's fine, you do you. Just don't try to gaslight or troll everyone else.
Would you buy one 🤨🤔😎
This Land Cruiser got Bronco Sport’d. Shame.
I could watch you talk for days
Toyota has the Highlander,Grand Highlander, and Sienna for people with young children. Land Cruiser and 4Runner are for offroading and Sequoia is for towing/light offroading. If you have 2+ young children and you want to drive the cool offroading SUV singles/childless couples are driving then you will have to make some sacrifices.
Why do I want to compromise? Other car makers can deliver both
Why is the child seat so massive?
Not impressed with the Land cruiser, but you are gorgeous.
This is such a terrible car… lol
This isn’t family car. So majority of your points , technically they are not valid. Also if people can buy this $100k in canada for this Land Cruiser, i am pretty sure they are able to afford another 3 row suv. Also, I respect how you want to use this car as a family car but this isn’t the right choice. Land cruiser is a great product of Toyota. Period
The land cruiser is a pathetic "family" car.... Great off roader but pathetic at family duties.... save your money and get a 25 PILOT TRAILSPORT..... tons of more legroom in all rows and will take you around some mild trails and mild off roading.
Not to mention a better drive train while getting better mpg than Land Cruiser and thousands of dollars less.
I love the LC but for what it is, you can spec out a 2025 4Runner for 8k less give or take and get almost the same vehicle.
@@marcmorgan3026 4runnner also is a pathetic family car.... great off roader though
if your a mother of 4 with a husband the vehicle will not fit your family...
Correct. I’m not looking at this vehicle for my family. The entire point of my channel is to review cars from the perspective of a family. Families come in all shapes and sizes!
Majority of vehicles don’t have 3 rows, no car fits everyone’s needs. If this vehicle doesn’t suit your needs, don’t buy it. I myself don’t want a semi sized vehicle to drive around. Get a mini-van women maybe that will satisfy you.
Families come in all shapes and sizes the entire point of my channel is to review every vehicle from the perspective of a family.
@ your the type of “TH-cam reviewer” that would review a motorcycle and complain that it didn’t have 4 wheels!