i drove armoured vehicles with th rr b series engine for 19 yrs,and never once did they break down.finest engine in the world,precisin engineering at its best
i dare say there is still a few crated new engines in sweden the centurion tank was was still in service in the late 70s i had a running mk 2b one with the roller rockers starter always sounded like a bag of ball bearings
Impressive build. Would love to see it on a sled. The throttle cable routing does concern me a bit though. Something grabs that puppy and its going to lock wide open. Hope you have a way to chop the fuel. Killing the spark might not stop it.
You're not alone being perplexed about how these old tractors hold together. The base is a BM-Volvo T 470 Bison. These tractors had a 73 hp engine. The power output of this thing is probably around 1000-1200 hp (maybe more, no one knows). The engine is directly coupled to the original gearbox and rear axle! Just think about it; power has been increased by 15-20 times and the old gearbox and rear axle have no problems dealing with it. Another guy I know has a 38 L Transmash V12 diesel in the same tractor. No problem. Yet another friend did put the same transmash engine in a Fordson Super Major. That rear axle was split in two.
As previously said, the Meteor was a tank engine. They were either "flawed" engines that could not go into aircraft or engines recovered and rebuilt from damaged aircraft. As a tank engine they were naturally aspirated, regardless of if they were built as a Meteor or rebuilt from a Merlin which had superchargers. As per usual in the war effort, they were assembled in the Rover car factory!
Hey @jbbumpkim Many Rolls Royce Merlin engines were built in Detroit Michigan USA at the Packard Car Factory .. They said Packard built higher quality than the British engines were.. In the USA many pulling Tractors use the Allison engine some of the later Allison's had two speed Superchargers and think Rolls Royce had that feature too. Both used Centrifugal vane superchargers not roots blowers like BM made for truck engines.. and heavy Equiptment engines..
@@mikeskidmore6754 There was no difference between Packard or RR built Merlins, this is a fallacy. Read the book ''The Merlin In Perspective'' from the RR Heritage Library. Packards built their engines to RR sopecifications and were identical in performance and standard of build. People are just perpetrating bullshit.
@jbbumpkin Not quite. The blocks are different, the Meteor also used a different crank and cams for opposite (CCW) rotation. The pistons were cast not forged and many other parts that did not need to be made to aircraft spec and standards were used. Different animal built at a different factory to a different spec.
@@TheLRider I watched a whole video that claims the Packard built engines were built to better specs and higher tolerances . better more modern machinery.
meteors are land based engines for tanks ie conquer and chieftain and do not have turbo super charges, some blocks surfaced recently from M.O.D reserves that was reconditiond and held for the 91 gulf war, they where clear for ac conversations.
Mr Tractorboy The merlin or any other RR aero engine NEVER used a TURBOcharger, they were all mechanically driven, learn the difference, US P38 P47 B17 B24 did use a TURBO system that fed the mechanical supercharger for a 2 stage system !!!
Hard to say. The Rolls Royce Meteor is about 600-650 hp with original carburetor. This has superchargers. The RR Merlin was more or less the same engine but supercharged. That one was at least 1000 hp but there were models up to 2000 hp. I have no idea about how much boost they are actually giving this so it is hard so give a good estimate. I'd say at least 900 hp but it could be quite a lot more.
To be clear: The tractor is not built by me, but a friend of mine. All credits go to Olle Andersson. Here is another video of the tractor in action: th-cam.com/video/Xj05pkRT-oQ/w-d-xo.html
Here is another Volvo BM Bison by another friend of mine. This one has a Russian Transmash 12 cyl 38 litre diesel engine. th-cam.com/video/-Opa-M4TdHA/w-d-xo.html
Those are actual Detroit blowers given away by the angled hold down bolts... why didn't you couple them end to end directly as they would be in a factory twin blower Application and ditch the jack shaft? The load on those belts WILL rip that aluminum sheet metal bracket off... maybe not right away but eventually...
I'm real surprised that a single carb on each blower can supply nowhere near enough fuel to keep that thing from starving but I guess it must work. You got a badass pulling tractor !!
A lot of people have had their concerns. Personally, I am not experience enough with engines/carbs this size to tell if it would work or not. All I can say is that the builder, my friend Olle, got it more or less right at first try. And these carbs are really large! And I agree, the tractor is badass. A very nice build.
I think youre overestimating the displacement and power of this engine compared to 2 800 ci v8. 2 1050 dominators should be damn near enough for 1650 ci at 4500 rpm, and they make up to 1475 cfm if you want more rpm.
Not really. This was originally a Meteor, with superchargers added by the owner. The Merlin was manufactured with superchargers by R&R. I admit, this is probably a case of hairsplitting.
Nice tractor, but the jackshaft connecting the blowers is only secured to a custom mount on the valve cover??? And the bearings aren't built to turn the kind of R's that shaft will be spinning at WOT. I wouldn't want to be near it when it gets under load but I would like to see it. Damn good looking machine though.
I'm not to worried about either bearings or the shaft mounting. High RPM:s are only for really short periods of time, and at those moments the RPM of the shaft will be about the limiting RPM of the bearing units. Regarding the mounts; the valve covers are extremely sturdy. Just see how many bolts there are keeping them in place. And and the shape of them and thickness of the material makes me believe durability is not an issue there. I say thanks on behalf of the builder (Olle)!
Are the valve covers aluminum? I was thinking more about the aluminum breaking instead of the bolts, but sort of figured that anyone who could piece together a machine like that would have probably thought that through well enough to feel comfortable with the load. Looks risky from here but all the viewer has is a video too go by. I hope it works out well. I really enjoy the creativity and fabrication that goes into building one of these. Those blowers sound great. Best of luck with it!
Nothing is perfect, and we all make bad judgements now and then. We (me, my friends incl Olle who built this tractor) are all "amateurs" in a way. We are pretty good at what we do, but we make mistakes. Minimizing risks is always a priority, but I'd be lying if I said we never had an accident :)
Very true about not being perfect. There are no books on how to do this. Mistakes and accidents are part of learning. Life is a hard teacher - we get the lesson AFTER the test. Looks like a lot was learned on this build.
I think that the biggest lesson learned when it comes to the superchargers was the importance of really big pressure release valves on the manifold. I can only say that the first ones were not big enough...
@H - M No. The Griffon was derived from the Rolls Royce 'R' engine which was 36.7 litres (Merlin 27 litres). The Griffon was initially built for the FAA but developed for RAF use also. It came after the Merlin was introduced, turned the opposite way to the Merlin and had a different firing order (hence the different sound).
The Meteor was originally built as a 'detuned' version of the Merlin, unsupercharged, and intended as a tank engine. There was also a cut-down version, V8 instead of V12, and called the Meteorite, intended as a truck engine to power tank transporters, and also marinized as a boat engine, and used by Vosper in their Firefloat Mark 2, of which only two were built. The Meteor was built by Rover rather than Rolls Royce.
As a complete outsider to this awesome sport what sort of gearbox would you use to transfer that sort of power. Good luck for the future and I think When that R J Mitchel designed it he never imagined the engine would still be being used in such a sport 80 years later.
Good question about the gearbox. What's interesting is that the gearbox is an untouched original gearbox from the Volvo T470 Bison. The quality is quite impressive. The engine power has been increased from 73 hp to more than 1000 hp, and both gearbox and rear axle are working flawlessly for run after run. The clutch has been replaced however. The current one is some kind of centrifugal clutch with manual override, manufacture by someone in Finland. I did not build this machine (a friend of mine did), so I'm not familiar with all the details.
@@LinusNil while he seems like a really cool guy and I was guessing that he must be an expert mechanic looking at the craftsmanship on that build what a rig he has and you guys are cool. Thanks for the awesome video my channel is kind of a joke panel about my motorized bicycle which I beat the hell but I'm also an excellent mechanic Thanks from los Angeles
I'm afraid there are no dyno results from this. No one really knows the power output. The original R&R Meteor engine was about 550-650 hp. This has upgraded carbs and two super chargers. I'd guess it's at least 1000 hp. The factory super charged version of the same engine, the Merlin, was 880 to 1160 hp according to Wikipedia.
Around 1000-1200 hp from 27 liters is quite tame yes. These engines were built to last hour after hour on heavy load, not for drag racing. Another friend has a 38 liter Transmash V12 diesel. About the same case there. The power output in respect to cylinder volume is relatively low.
Am I the only one that flinched when that beast first fired up?LOL
That engine is awesome i bet it sounds wonderful in person , supercharger wonderful !
WHAT A BEAST!
NICE, LOOKS LIKE A GOOD INSTALLATION!
Damn slick lookin/sounding setup. 👍👍
First thought that came in to my head with it fired up was....................smooth!
It's so weird to hear blower surge on a high-displacement V-12! I'm so used to hearing that on V-8's! Awesome setup, my friend!
I'll forward your compliments to Olle, the guy behind this thing.
The blower drive setup looks great! Fuel lines and filters, an afterthought...
Scooter George as mentioned before: it was not finished.
2:12 I jumped out of my skin and wasn't even there in person 😂
Hah me and my buddy did the same thing
Uuhukj
She ticks over beautifully nice and smooth.
Marikita bepyta mabre🖕👹✌👅🖕
Nicely done! Clean done right
i drove armoured vehicles with th rr b series engine for 19 yrs,and never once did they break down.finest engine in the world,precisin engineering at its best
I'd call that tug outta the barn a full pull for sure 👍👍
I'm wearing headphones to this and the startup actually scared the shit out of me.
I have an 8V-71 in my garage that I picked up for $100, I wish the V series blowers had as much aftermarket support as the I series...
I think jay leno would love this tractor!
Well done what a great job
Awesome barn find!
😂😂😂👍
Pretty sure he only 'found' it in the barn because he'd put it in there the day before...
LinusNil: Finished
Farmer: I need field ploughed
Bugger. I was hoping he'd plough a field with it. 😎
Wow really awesome 🚜 bud really sweet.
i dare say there is still a few crated new engines in sweden
the centurion tank was was still in service in the late 70s
i had a running mk 2b one with the roller rockers
starter always sounded like a bag of ball bearings
Awesome machine
Well, that's a beauty!😎
He will plow the fields in record time with that rig.
Not enough traction, will not plow faster than other 2wd tractors of the same weight, probably slower due to more weight on the front.
Pretty damn cool 👍🏼
Absolutely gorgeous!!!
Beautiful work.👍🚜
I see a pair of standard pillow block bearings on that shaft,,,, totally seeing that blowing apart at full RPM!!!
Well, it haven't. And this has been running a lot by now.
Well, when you build your own 'the right way', please don't forget to show it to us.
Very nice and a Thumbs Up Liked.
just great!
Ser bra ut, bra jobbat Manen👌👍
I went out to plow the field and I was back before I had started.
Ya think those front tires are big enough?
Very nice
That's a big engine crazy stuff wonder how much fuel it drinks in one pull
Verygood
how long to empty the fuel tank ..ten minutes?
That fuel tank looks like it's about 80L, 27L blown 1940's engine spun up will suck it dry in less than a minute I reckon.
AS Jeff Goldbloom said in Jurassic Park, "Just because you could doesn't mean you should."
Impressive build. Would love to see it on a sled. The throttle cable routing does concern me a bit though. Something grabs that puppy and its going to lock wide open.
Hope you have a way to chop the fuel. Killing the spark might not stop it.
That is a thing of beauty
Nice!! Doesn't sound excessively loud either
when you have to till your lawn at 8 but win a world war at 10.
When Country gives subvention to farmers from peoples, government budget.
@@borivojetravica569 Incredibly ignorant comment. The builder is not a farmer and the money put into this are earned and taxed through hard work.
@@LinusNil sorry man, but looks like that....
@@borivojetravica569 No it does not. It does not look like this was built from tax money. At all. But apology accepted.
Predator carburetors are good also. Unless I have old information lol which I likely do.
Nice job guys !!!!!! awesome, who cares where certain parts , you have made such a beautiful running powerful monster !!!!!
Are the fuel filters fastened down or loose?
They are loose. This is not a final setup.
Nice! All you need now is a ship for it to power! Or at least a train or something. It’ll be hyper power!
Fantastic (Brasil).
Beast .....
How does the cardan shaft withstand so much pressure? I always wonder that
You're not alone being perplexed about how these old tractors hold together. The base is a BM-Volvo T 470 Bison. These tractors had a 73 hp engine. The power output of this thing is probably around 1000-1200 hp (maybe more, no one knows). The engine is directly coupled to the original gearbox and rear axle! Just think about it; power has been increased by 15-20 times and the old gearbox and rear axle have no problems dealing with it.
Another guy I know has a 38 L Transmash V12 diesel in the same tractor. No problem. Yet another friend did put the same transmash engine in a Fordson Super Major. That rear axle was split in two.
I think blower belts should shake btw. Just FYI. I’ve never had but 1 supercharged engine.
Very nice piece if engineering. Beautiful sound too.
The R&R Meteor (and Merlin also I suppose) is a beautiful engine!
As previously said, the Meteor was a tank engine. They were either "flawed" engines that could not go into aircraft or engines recovered and rebuilt from damaged aircraft. As a tank engine they were naturally aspirated, regardless of if they were built as a Meteor or rebuilt from a Merlin which had superchargers. As per usual in the war effort, they were assembled in the Rover car factory!
Hey @jbbumpkim Many Rolls Royce Merlin engines were built in Detroit Michigan USA at the Packard Car Factory .. They said Packard built higher quality than the British engines were..
In the USA many pulling Tractors use the Allison engine some of the later Allison's had two speed Superchargers and think Rolls Royce had that feature too. Both used Centrifugal vane superchargers not roots blowers like BM made for truck engines.. and heavy Equiptment engines..
@@mikeskidmore6754 There was no difference between Packard or RR built Merlins, this is a fallacy. Read the book ''The Merlin In Perspective'' from the RR Heritage Library. Packards built their engines to RR sopecifications and were identical in performance and standard of build. People are just perpetrating bullshit.
@jbbumpkin Not quite. The blocks are different, the Meteor also used a different crank and cams for opposite (CCW) rotation. The pistons were cast not forged and many other parts that did not need to be made to aircraft spec and standards were used. Different animal built at a different factory to a different spec.
@@mikeskidmore6754 They would wouldn't they. After all America has to be first.
@@TheLRider I watched a whole video that claims the Packard built engines were built to better specs and higher tolerances . better more modern machinery.
Is this a short stroke engine?
Bow come we didn't get go see it in operation?
th-cam.com/video/Xj05pkRT-oQ/w-d-xo.html
YES... NOW I KNOW...
meteors are land based engines for tanks ie conquer and chieftain and do not have turbo super charges, some blocks surfaced recently from M.O.D reserves that was reconditiond and held for the 91 gulf war, they where clear for ac conversations.
The Chieftain? I think you mean Centurion.
Mr Tractorboy The merlin or any other RR aero engine NEVER used a TURBOcharger, they were all mechanically driven, learn the difference, US P38 P47 B17 B24 did use a TURBO system that fed the mechanical supercharger for a 2 stage system !!!
Bildfou, parabéns.
Engine start @2.12
Dang!! What a awesome beast
In which country is this?
Sweden
Nice big beast! How much horsepower?
Hard to say. The Rolls Royce Meteor is about 600-650 hp with original carburetor. This has superchargers.
The RR Merlin was more or less the same engine but supercharged. That one was at least 1000 hp but there were models up to 2000 hp. I have no idea about how much boost they are actually giving this so it is hard so give a good estimate. I'd say at least 900 hp but it could be quite a lot more.
@@LinusNil Thank you for your reply!
Brings back memories... my daddy use to beat me with a belt like that....
Im just wondering if those superchargers are even connected.
They are
Muito bonito.. trabalho de campeão mesmo!!!
So what was this engine originally on?
The centurion tank
LinusNil I was thinking tank but wasn’t sure, thank you!
What a fun project! How much horse power and torque? Please post more vids when you can. GlennFHoward
To be clear: The tractor is not built by me, but a friend of mine. All credits go to Olle Andersson. Here is another video of the tractor in action: th-cam.com/video/Xj05pkRT-oQ/w-d-xo.html
Here is another Volvo BM Bison by another friend of mine. This one has a Russian Transmash 12 cyl 38 litre diesel engine.
th-cam.com/video/-Opa-M4TdHA/w-d-xo.html
Those are actual Detroit blowers given away by the angled hold down bolts... why didn't you couple them end to end directly as they would be in a factory twin blower Application and ditch the jack shaft? The load on those belts WILL rip that aluminum sheet metal bracket off... maybe not right away but eventually...
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He stated that the superchargers were from 8v71 detroit diesel in the beginning of the video
What he said.
Was thinking the exact same thing. That thing is gonna rip right off.
I'm real surprised that a single carb on each blower can supply nowhere near enough fuel to keep that thing from starving but I guess it must work. You got a badass pulling tractor !!
A lot of people have had their concerns. Personally, I am not experience enough with engines/carbs this size to tell if it would work or not. All I can say is that the builder, my friend Olle, got it more or less right at first try. And these carbs are really large!
And I agree, the tractor is badass. A very nice build.
I think youre overestimating the displacement and power of this engine compared to 2 800 ci v8. 2 1050 dominators should be damn near enough for 1650 ci at 4500 rpm, and they make up to 1475 cfm if you want more rpm.
@@randymagnum143
Correct. Holley actually recommended these carbs for this particular setup.
How many HP?
How many litres/minute?
1. I'm not sure. The Meteor is around 600 hp. This one is super-charged.
2. I have no idea :)
Depending of how much horse, livestock you have on government subvention money.
E den från storåbränna?
Hammerdal
A RR Meteor with superchargers is a Merlin!!
Not really. This was originally a Meteor, with superchargers added by the owner. The Merlin was manufactured with superchargers by R&R. I admit, this is probably a case of hairsplitting.
Nice tractor, but the jackshaft connecting the blowers is only secured to a custom mount on the valve cover??? And the bearings aren't built to turn the kind of R's that shaft will be spinning at WOT. I wouldn't want to be near it when it gets under load but I would like to see it. Damn good looking machine though.
I'm not to worried about either bearings or the shaft mounting. High RPM:s are only for really short periods of time, and at those moments the RPM of the shaft will be about the limiting RPM of the bearing units.
Regarding the mounts; the valve covers are extremely sturdy. Just see how many bolts there are keeping them in place. And and the shape of them and thickness of the material makes me believe durability is not an issue there.
I say thanks on behalf of the builder (Olle)!
Are the valve covers aluminum? I was thinking more about the aluminum breaking instead of the bolts, but sort of figured that anyone who could piece together a machine like that would have probably thought that through well enough to feel comfortable with the load. Looks risky from here but all the viewer has is a video too go by. I hope it works out well. I really enjoy the creativity and fabrication that goes into building one of these. Those blowers sound great. Best of luck with it!
Nothing is perfect, and we all make bad judgements now and then. We (me, my friends incl Olle who built this tractor) are all "amateurs" in a way. We are pretty good at what we do, but we make mistakes. Minimizing risks is always a priority, but I'd be lying if I said we never had an accident :)
Very true about not being perfect. There are no books on how to do this. Mistakes and accidents are part of learning.
Life is a hard teacher - we get the lesson AFTER the test. Looks like a lot was learned on this build.
I think that the biggest lesson learned when it comes to the superchargers was the importance of really big pressure release valves on the manifold. I can only say that the first ones were not big enough...
RUNS VERY SWEET
Is this a derivative of the Griffin that superseded the Merlin that powered the later marks of Spitfire?
@H - M No. The Griffon was derived from the Rolls Royce 'R' engine which was 36.7 litres (Merlin 27 litres). The Griffon was initially built for the FAA but developed for RAF use also. It came after the Merlin was introduced, turned the opposite way to the Merlin and had a different firing order (hence the different sound).
The Meteor was originally built as a 'detuned' version of the Merlin, unsupercharged, and intended as a tank engine. There was also a cut-down version, V8 instead of V12, and called the Meteorite, intended as a truck engine to power tank transporters, and also marinized as a boat engine, and used by Vosper in their Firefloat Mark 2, of which only two were built. The Meteor was built by Rover rather than Rolls Royce.
Impressive! ❤️👌👌😎
These things are of their head crazy lol✌☯
COOL
Are those big block V8 carbs?
Yes, two Holley Ultra Dominator 1250 if I'm not remembering it wrong.
What is this used for, Tractor pulling?
MoldyWorm Gaming Yep.
Snowblower tiller 48 inch mower it's your basic lawn tractor
As a complete outsider to this awesome sport what sort of gearbox would you use to transfer that sort of power.
Good luck for the future and I think When that R J Mitchel designed it he never imagined the engine would still be being used in such a sport 80 years later.
Good question about the gearbox. What's interesting is that the gearbox is an untouched original gearbox from the Volvo T470 Bison. The quality is quite impressive. The engine power has been increased from 73 hp to more than 1000 hp, and both gearbox and rear axle are working flawlessly for run after run.
The clutch has been replaced however. The current one is some kind of centrifugal clutch with manual override, manufacture by someone in Finland. I did not build this machine (a friend of mine did), so I'm not familiar with all the details.
I love this video Linus who is this guy?? Also where is this what country? Thanks very much awesome video
This guy i my good friend Olle. He is an excellent mechanic and have built a lot of cool stuff. We live in the middle of Sweden.
@@LinusNil while he seems like a really cool guy and I was guessing that he must be an expert mechanic looking at the craftsmanship on that build what a rig he has and you guys are cool. Thanks for the awesome video my channel is kind of a joke panel about my motorized bicycle which I beat the hell but I'm also an excellent mechanic
Thanks from los Angeles
what is this used for?
Veteran tractor pulling. Just for fun.
Speed is 300 aph (acres per hour).
Sounds great, but gotta say if those belts come of those fuel lines are gonna be ripped off, then🔥🔥🔥. Maybe a shield in between there be a good idea.
This was not a final setup
Tieng bo qua uy luc!
AN fittings and screw clamps on the fuel system lol. Otherwise really badass yo !!!
I wish to see dyno results if possible.
I'm afraid there are no dyno results from this. No one really knows the power output. The original R&R Meteor engine was about 550-650 hp. This has upgraded carbs and two super chargers. I'd guess it's at least 1000 hp. The factory super charged version of the same engine, the Merlin, was 880 to 1160 hp according to Wikipedia.
It sounds positively tame. Like you could use it for field work.
Around 1000-1200 hp from 27 liters is quite tame yes. These engines were built to last hour after hour on heavy load, not for drag racing. Another friend has a 38 liter Transmash V12 diesel. About the same case there. The power output in respect to cylinder volume is relatively low.
Runs sweet....
Este motor muito legal
Runs nicely just doesn't like starting, you sure it's a Rolls Royce?
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Läckert bygge!
Great looking and sounding tractor, but i hate to think how much fuel that big engine consumes!
Olle is one quality fabricator. Could use a belt tightener on the belt driven off the crankshaft.
PLease you are tell me where is ig River Camp?
It's in the region of Jämtland, Sweden
What rolls royce engine that?
It's a Rolls Royce Meteor. Similar to the Merlin but without superchargers (these superchargers were added by the builder of the tractor ).
@@LinusNil ooooh meteor the same one used in the centurion and comet tank (others also)
@@saltymain Yes you are right. This one comes from a Centurion I believe.
@@LinusNil epic i the engine even good
By golly we are ready to ploy the back forty!
What's its use for.
Tractor pulling
Sounds like a Tiger roar
That's the exact motor I'm looking for to install on my weed wacker
It will fit in your Honda.
I have ordered one for my snowblower! :)