Here in Sweden I think Hitachi and Volvo are the most used wheeled excavators. Mecalac is a rare brand. I think most are around 14 tons (14 000 kg) and pulls a carriage with different accessories, buckets and so on. The carriages also gives the possibility to collect and move dirt on, with its own hydraulic tilt for unloading, very convenient for use on paved roads inside towns. And of course these excvators have rotor tilt. These excavators primarilary have the advantage in the ease of transport (but not that fast) and very good capabilities compared to many other machines. The backdraw compared to tracked excavators is the lower stability and offroad capacity. Also it destroys the groundsurface more, in particular compared to steel tracks that can be really gentle on dry grounds. And the price of the wheeled excavators is higher, partly due to the more complicated layout with more controls. Our company have used Hitachi excavators with both steel tracks and wheels for more than a decade.
OMG that wheeled excavator needs a tilt-rotator with an eletro-hydraulic quick connect system so they don't have to get out of the cab to switch up powered accessories. Like Engcon or Steelwrist... Any time you don't have to get out of the cab to do a tool swap means you can start doing more tool swaps but spend more time doing actual work. Most of those tilt-rotators have a graple option that is like a big metal hand to pick up and move tools. Think of it like a mechanic, electrician, or plumber picking the right tool for a task rather that sitting there trying to make the shovel do every job... Use that pintle hitch to drag a small trailer, and now the machine is carrying its own tools and materials for a job.
It seems like Stanley is somewhat impressed! Another European brand to look at for the exclusivity is Menzi-Muck from Switzerland and their spider-excavators! But Mecalac from Annecy in France is definitely a very very nice and versatile brand!
@@truefarmer12345 solid machine. They also make them with fold down train track wheels. They put them at Same spot where the support struts are on this vehicle
It obviously will have some limitations on soft ground. But that's not the point. Each of them has their own use cases, and using a machine for something else than what it's built for is never optimal.
That isn't much different than my JCB 110w hydradig. The 110w goes 25mph. The 110w has the engine mounted in the chassis of the machine to lower the center of gravity and increase stability. Originally I didn't even want the 110w but I got in a package deal with a 3ts8t teleskid, they were both brand new and I had to buy both.
JCB has a similar machine available in the states. It's called the Hydradig. 11ton machine. I have one, and it's the ultimate swiss army knife. It impresses me every day I run it.
I'm impressed and amazed all at the same time 😮 This is a big game changer!!! Thank you for all the great information, gentlemen ! And thank you Stan 👍
Me: Man that tree really leans out toward the road really hard. I'm gonna have to pull that sucker back away from the road. Township guy: Drops it right on the road across both lanes. Not a road closed sign within sight Zero F's given. Love it. That is a really neat piece of equipment.
there are diffrent brands with their version of spider excavators in Europe. Also many of those they attach "ENGCON Tiltrotator" wich is kind of handy too.
I was born and raised on backhoes and rubber tire excavators. A rubber tire excavator sure is a bit tippier but man a good operator can run laps on a backhoe for almost everything. Europe used them even way better than us. They are so underrated
Such an interesting hybrid machine. Does the work of a skid steer, excavator, and backhoe. Save even more time by not trailering it from job site to job site. What’s not to like?
Wont have to trailer it if the next job is a few blocks down in the same neighborhood but you ain't going down the main highway or any main roads. I guess you could technically but with a top speed of 20 mph youd end up behind on time wishing you would have just hauled it. I wondet how fast they wear out tired driving like that. Not saying it's a bad machine I do like you can go forward 30 ft and back 20 feet and forward again alot faster (like in a skid steer) then a tracked machine and maybe backhoe
funny, new for you, but on the European side, this system has been in use for at least the last 30 years. and when I add a trailer to the back of the machine, you can transport various accessories yourself, including sand or other necessary items. Like Petr do, th-cam.com/channels/Hgr6MXSFg38QyVjlWR-Yiw.html?si=RHj8636cIthK5Msk
While they never put the stabilizers down, it did look kinda tippy. Also, I’d like to see wheeled units for the smaller mini ex’s. These would be perfect for personal property or small contractors!
I think the JCB Hydrodig is just as versatile we have them fitted for pot hole repairs and other road works mainly utilities and flytip clean up and light roadside tree surgery
Looks tipsy with forestry head. Not a backhoe killler though because it cost around 100k. French machines aren't know to be reliable and no one will be able to fix it. Either way, cool machine.
That machine is incredibly stable and will pull through mud that most wheeled machines dig in and as for reliability ours has never missed a beat in 5 years
Its out performing backhoes having all on its attachments. Not sold to much on its capability looking close at its stress on the tires. Theres no reason outriggers couldnt be part of its design! For center balance as well as hydraulic boomout! outriggers to keep tire pressures damage. Other then the design it has! Longer reaching is less stressful on hydraulics at its full reach. Now with out its clearances as you would have more on a backhoe! I would like to see its reaction of the hard services, and see it reach capacities in soft ground and or muddy area's its a great deal for road crews city and or county for storm clean ups in disasters such as tornadoes heavey t-storms. Ooo! Iits great stan eaven they might make a philabuncher attachment head for it. But i think it would safe tax payers money and labor as well .👍🏻like this video stan. And ware there going with this concept. 👍🏻👍🏻
Too cool. I’d love to have this when I was operating an excavator in the cities digging mainline trenches. We always ran around all over the city digging trenches. Would have been nice to have this thing.
I like it and I think it’s stable enough. It’s an excavator with a treatable chassis so doing what they’re doing working on the roadside it’s a great machine. It looks pretty stable to me. They could easily put an outrigger system on there to make it more stable and they’ve got the blade in the front and back And it bounces around a little bit so does a track excavator but they’re getting the job done and it doesn’t look unsafe or bouncing around too much to me. I’d rather have tracks, but I’m almost never gonna be working on pavement, but if I were in a crew like this, or rural community, where I was operating on blacktop, I’d rather have this all day long. I don’t think it’s some amazing innovation but it’s customized for this job and it does a really good job of it, I like it As far as a backhoe, killer, depends on the job, if I’ve just got to move a big pile of dirt I like a backhoe and of course there’s the cost factor but this is definitely a lot more versatile, and though it’s got a street chassis on it, where that’s applicable that’s a huge advantage , they do this kind of work out where I live in the county comes by and maintains the side of the road and they usually use a big tractor with rubber reels and have huge attachments on the back with a boomer and a brush hog or chipper on it This is just a much better version of that.
If you’re a contractor you still need a trailer to haul that. Cities can drive it around but if your job is 30 miles away at 20 mph, that’s quite a drive.
These wheeled excavator are really mobile - comparativly. A number of companies have them. I think if you had 1 with an Encon, that would be a super machine
I operate a 10ton crawler excavator most frequently, I would love to try this style machine and the tracked machine as well. Amazing potential the the boom configuration.
I had a go with on a 10 ton with an engcon arm fully extended it was impossible to level way to bouncy no matter how light you are on the levers, had to bring the arm halfway in not even the lenghth of a 3 ton machine fully extended to grade even then still bouncy might of been the weight of the engcon but even the demonstration guy was embarrassed and didnt want to say anything about it kept on changing the subject saying its more for tight spaces, other than that it was good especially inside the cab, before buying one suggest you try and grade with it
You mentioned they used skid steer attachments with it. Is there a special mount for it. My skid doesnt use that type of connection. Mine has what i thought is typical. The quick attach. I couldnt get a close view of the attacment plate. Could those accessories still be used with a skid. I dont work in comercial construction. Just my own personal jobs so maybe imay not recognize the attachment plate that most commercial compnies use.
Love this machine. Tried to get a town buy one of these instead of a track excavator but they never seen one of these before so they went with a track excavator and now they need to trailer it everywhere and it's very limited in it usability
JCB have there hydro dig similar and just as versatile a machine as the mecalac but it only comes in ten tone class were as mecalac has them as small as six tone very useful for a landscapers would not need two machines as it bout a skid steer and an excavator i love inventive and versatile kit like this it makes your business faster and more efficient and more profitable 😅🤔
That thing is bouncing like a tractor with a backhoe.....the stability is in the support of the wheels and I think it comes down to use and being cmfortable with how it bounces. Eventually tho, you gonna bounce too much and pop that tire....at least I would think that. But maybe it is built for that and the tires and rims hold more. It is a pretty impressive machine.
I don't know Stan the road side tires was doing alot of bouncing I guess it depends on how it feels inside the equipment while running the brush cutter.
These will all be electrified by 2030. Imagine how much more stable they’d be with heavy low-mounted battery pack and almost no fuel costs comparatively and less maintenance bc power train has few moving parts.
Wheels came off ground a bunch of time with brush chipper attachment. Not practical unless it’s for a dpw most people drive 20-30 miles. Take over 1 hr to get there and over hour to get back. When you use tax dollars you don’t care about cost
@@scotchdrnkr it depends on how much transport you need on a daily basis. It’s probably not economically feasible to have your own transport equipment if you only use it 1 hour a day
Here in Sweden I think Hitachi and Volvo are the most used wheeled excavators. Mecalac is a rare brand. I think most are around 14 tons (14 000 kg) and pulls a carriage with different accessories, buckets and so on. The carriages also gives the possibility to collect and move dirt on, with its own hydraulic tilt for unloading, very convenient for use on paved roads inside towns. And of course these excvators have rotor tilt. These excavators primarilary have the advantage in the ease of transport (but not that fast) and very good capabilities compared to many other machines. The backdraw compared to tracked excavators is the lower stability and offroad capacity. Also it destroys the groundsurface more, in particular compared to steel tracks that can be really gentle on dry grounds. And the price of the wheeled excavators is higher, partly due to the more complicated layout with more controls. Our company have used Hitachi excavators with both steel tracks and wheels for more than a decade.
Rototilt is king
OMG that wheeled excavator needs a tilt-rotator with an eletro-hydraulic quick connect system so they don't have to get out of the cab to switch up powered accessories. Like Engcon or Steelwrist...
Any time you don't have to get out of the cab to do a tool swap means you can start doing more tool swaps but spend more time doing actual work. Most of those tilt-rotators have a graple option that is like a big metal hand to pick up and move tools. Think of it like a mechanic, electrician, or plumber picking the right tool for a task rather that sitting there trying to make the shovel do every job...
Use that pintle hitch to drag a small trailer, and now the machine is carrying its own tools and materials for a job.
It seems like Stanley is somewhat impressed! Another European brand to look at for the exclusivity is Menzi-Muck from Switzerland and their spider-excavators!
But Mecalac from Annecy in France is definitely a very very nice and versatile brand!
MACALAC machine is beyond AWESOME!!! I ❤ this channel!!!
Perfect peace of equipment for hard surface use but I want to see that thing match an equivalent crawler in mud and soft ground.
they make it with tracks
@@truefarmer12345 solid machine. They also make them with fold down train track wheels. They put them at Same spot where the support struts are on this vehicle
It obviously will have some limitations on soft ground. But that's not the point. Each of them has their own use cases, and using a machine for something else than what it's built for is never optimal.
like saying you want to see a tracked machine go up and down roads and scoop out the sides of ditches just as fast as this one can....
I mean how much mud can a backhoe and wheeled skidsteer go through. Not much in my experience and that is what he is comparing it too
They need to make a garden tractor sized version. That would be fun.
O hell ya every home owner who has a large spread will want one 😲
Volvo got one called EW60
Hell yeah I could see you using one of those in your fleet as well. Would work good for building retaining walls.
That isn't much different than my JCB 110w hydradig. The 110w goes 25mph. The 110w has the engine mounted in the chassis of the machine to lower the center of gravity and increase stability. Originally I didn't even want the 110w but I got in a package deal with a 3ts8t teleskid, they were both brand new and I had to buy both.
JCB has a similar machine available in the states. It's called the Hydradig. 11ton machine. I have one, and it's the ultimate swiss army knife. It impresses me every day I run it.
I'm impressed and amazed all at the same time 😮 This is a big game changer!!! Thank you for all the great information, gentlemen ! And thank you Stan 👍
Me: Man that tree really leans out toward the road really hard. I'm gonna have to pull that sucker back away from the road.
Township guy: Drops it right on the road across both lanes. Not a road closed sign within sight Zero F's given. Love it.
That is a really neat piece of equipment.
there are diffrent brands with their version of spider excavators in Europe. Also many of those they attach "ENGCON Tiltrotator" wich is kind of handy too.
If you add an dump trailer to it. It would be the best storm debris cleanup crew. I know this because I did, it
In Scandinavia the hitachi/volvo wheel excavators normally has a dump trailer attached to a coupling on the blade when they travel around
I was born and raised on backhoes and rubber tire excavators. A rubber tire excavator sure is a bit tippier but man a good operator can run laps on a backhoe for almost everything. Europe used them even way better than us. They are so underrated
This machine is awesome! Happy to see another video! Keep it up
Such an interesting hybrid machine. Does the work of a skid steer, excavator, and backhoe. Save even more time by not trailering it from job site to job site. What’s not to like?
Wont have to trailer it if the next job is a few blocks down in the same neighborhood but you ain't going down the main highway or any main roads. I guess you could technically but with a top speed of 20 mph youd end up behind on time wishing you would have just hauled it. I wondet how fast they wear out tired driving like that. Not saying it's a bad machine I do like you can go forward 30 ft and back 20 feet and forward again alot faster (like in a skid steer) then a tracked machine and maybe backhoe
looked pretty shaky with that mulching head on it.
I understand what are doing. Most people need this. But not my thing. To big of machine for me. Keep up the great work and God bless.
Seems a little unstable with the mulcher head.
funny, new for you, but on the European side, this system has been in use for at least the last 30 years. and when I add a trailer to the back of the machine, you can transport various accessories yourself, including sand or other necessary items. Like Petr do, th-cam.com/channels/Hgr6MXSFg38QyVjlWR-Yiw.html?si=RHj8636cIthK5Msk
yep- only new to America
You showed off over 250,000 dollars worth of equipment.
While they never put the stabilizers down, it did look kinda tippy. Also, I’d like to see wheeled units for the smaller mini ex’s. These would be perfect for personal property or small contractors!
Just wondered what engine does it run?
Kubota. Built in America! God bless.
I think the JCB Hydrodig is just as versatile we have them fitted for pot hole repairs and other road works mainly utilities and flytip clean up and light roadside tree surgery
I seen guys plow with the mtx12, would this model plow small lots?
Looks tipsy with forestry head. Not a backhoe killler though because it cost around 100k. French machines aren't know to be reliable and no one will be able to fix it. Either way, cool machine.
That machine is incredibly stable and will pull through mud that most wheeled machines dig in and as for reliability ours has never missed a beat in 5 years
😂
i got mine used with 3700 and its at 4600 now. they are very reliable.
Another very informative video. Thank you.
We been using wheel diggers for 30 Years in Scandinavia mine has a trailer for it a twin axle
Har det tagit 40 år för amerikanarna att förstå vad en rototilt är så är det imponerande att det finns hjulgrävare iallafall
Can’t compare this machine with a backhoe. I think he meant the mini excavator killer 😂
If i could move snow with it in the winter im sold. I would use it almost everyday.
They don’t have any dealers in my area, everything breaks and the closest dealer is 10 hours away.
Were about are u located?
My dealer always has parts and if not they loan u a machine
Cotton top3 just finished getting a new Robotech grapple on his excavator. Amazing machine he uses for his tree work.
You need to tell Stan that a wheeled excavator is nothing like a track excavator to-operate
Ive ran wheeled excavators. I didn't like it but it was not a Mecalac. It was a Volvo and tippy. this thing was stable as all get out
Remember it can't get it's self out of its own hole on its own like a backhoe can limited. Each designed for its special needs and purpose. 👍🏻
Careful that excavator almost got sucked in to that chipper
The ground guys hardly touched a thing.
That's some clever engineering. I could see Wranglerstar wanting one for when his Yanmar isn't quite up to the task.
Should we expect another collaboration with Victory Outdoor Serices, seeings how your outside Milwaukee in this video?
I think that Menzi Muck is also a backhoe killer, plus it can work in places nothing else can get to.
Most municipal public works departments would get many benefits from this piece of equipment. No joke!
Its out performing backhoes having all on its attachments. Not sold to much on its capability looking close at its stress on the tires. Theres no reason outriggers couldnt be part of its design! For center balance as well as hydraulic boomout! outriggers to keep tire pressures damage. Other then the design it has! Longer reaching is less stressful on hydraulics at its full reach. Now with out its clearances as you would have more on a backhoe! I would like to see its reaction of the hard services, and see it reach capacities in soft ground and or muddy area's its a great deal for road crews city and or county for storm clean ups in disasters such as tornadoes heavey t-storms. Ooo! Iits great stan eaven they might make a philabuncher attachment head for it. But i think it would safe tax payers money and labor as well .👍🏻like this video stan. And ware there going with this concept. 👍🏻👍🏻
Wow. Nice operator. Good operator.
This machine is quality machine and versatile and seems very stable it would be amazing verge road side grass cutting too
Too cool. I’d love to have this when I was operating an excavator in the cities digging mainline trenches. We always ran around all over the city digging trenches. Would have been nice to have this thing.
I like it and I think it’s stable enough. It’s an excavator with a treatable chassis so doing what they’re doing working on the roadside it’s a great machine. It looks pretty stable to me. They could easily put an outrigger system on there to make it more stable and they’ve got the blade in the front and back And it bounces around a little bit so does a track excavator but they’re getting the job done and it doesn’t look unsafe or bouncing around too much to me. I’d rather have tracks, but I’m almost never gonna be working on pavement, but if I were in a crew like this, or rural community, where I was operating on blacktop, I’d rather have this all day long. I don’t think it’s some amazing innovation but it’s customized for this job and it does a really good job of it, I like it
As far as a backhoe, killer, depends on the job, if I’ve just got to move a big pile of dirt I like a backhoe and of course there’s the cost factor but this is definitely a lot more versatile, and though it’s got a street chassis on it, where that’s applicable that’s a huge advantage , they do this kind of work out where I live in the county comes by and maintains the side of the road and they usually use a big tractor with rubber reels and have huge attachments on the back with a boomer and a brush hog or chipper on it This is just a much better version of that.
If you’re a contractor you still need a trailer to haul that. Cities can drive it around but if your job is 30 miles away at 20 mph, that’s quite a drive.
These wheeled excavator are really mobile - comparativly. A number of companies have them. I think if you had 1 with an Encon, that would be a super machine
I operate a 10ton crawler excavator most frequently, I would love to try this style machine and the tracked machine as well. Amazing potential the the boom configuration.
they have those, its the 10 mcr from mecalac
I had a go with on a 10 ton with an engcon arm fully extended it was impossible to level way to bouncy no matter how light you are on the levers, had to bring the arm halfway in not even the lenghth of a 3 ton machine fully extended to grade even then still bouncy might of been the weight of the engcon but even the demonstration guy was embarrassed and didnt want to say anything about it kept on changing the subject saying its more for tight spaces, other than that it was good especially inside the cab, before buying one suggest you try and grade with it
Great video Stan, I work for a township and it looks like a real timesaver. Can you get a hydraulic thumb on it.
I instantly thought the same thing❤❤
sure can get a hydraulic thumb
Hey Mr stan I got a question I'm looking to buy a dump trailer Who you think you're the best dump trailer the market?
Mecalac is the best machine made hands down
Boys where are the Stabilizers? Someone is bound to push it over the Max
it has 2 different kinds of stabilizers
You mentioned they used skid steer attachments with it. Is there a special mount for it. My skid doesnt use that type of connection. Mine has what i thought is typical. The quick attach. I couldnt get a close view of the attacment plate. Could those accessories still be used with a skid. I dont work in comercial construction. Just my own personal jobs so maybe imay not recognize the attachment plate that most commercial compnies use.
yeah- it uses an adapter plate to connect up to skiddy attachments
The smallest one they make weighs 15k lbs. Too heavy for farm work.
I have never heard of a piece of equipment being too heavy for farm work. Why would it be too heavy?
Gotta love the red white and blue grapple
Love this machine. Tried to get a town buy one of these instead of a track excavator but they never seen one of these before so they went with a track excavator and now they need to trailer it everywhere and it's very limited in it usability
Not that I oppose anybody but JCB hydradig is it not the 4x4 wheeled excavator with the lowest center of gravity?
Do they crab walk? I thought I had seen one doing it in another video
That thing is cool I mean what exevator do you know that can drive in traffic and haul its own attachments 😊😊
CAT has had variable boom on their smaller tracked machines and on their wheeled excavators for years.
You can drive any wheeled excavator with rototilt with your own trailer since 1989 in Sweden hang with you isa with my friends there))
Best machine ever❤
Compare that to a Gradall
Hills! How does it handle hills? That’s what we got in Ithaca, NY!
Good video 😊
Talking how stable it is while it’s literally bouncing 2 inches of the ground lol. It is a awesome machine though.
JCB have there hydro dig similar and just as versatile a machine as the mecalac but it only comes in ten tone class were as mecalac has them as small as six tone very useful for a landscapers would not need two machines as it bout a skid steer and an excavator i love inventive and versatile kit like this it makes your business faster and more efficient and more profitable 😅🤔
So !!! You Do Need a TRAILER to Haul All The ATACSMENTS Around ???
They mail them there
You should watch Cotontop man is a master at making trees disappear fast
Great handy machine
Nice machine but too expensive for me
Haven't these been around for at least 40 years in Europe? In the video you could see the tires lift off the ground as it was clearing brush....
Go with the Jcb hydra dig , the engine and hydraulic tank along with fuel is on the drive framework for a lower center of gravity.
Very cool machine.
I think so too!
That thing is bouncing like a tractor with a backhoe.....the stability is in the support of the wheels and I think it comes down to use and being cmfortable with how it bounces. Eventually tho, you gonna bounce too much and pop that tire....at least I would think that. But maybe it is built for that and the tires and rims hold more. It is a pretty impressive machine.
Way more stable then a backhoe with the outriggers up. Those big fat tires on the rear of a backhoe are like balloons.
Gradall has been making wheel excavators for more than 50 years... it's about time for smaller machines like this. Thanks for the video.
Tracks Are For Off Road & Mud-Snow / Thee Wheels Are Good Road Arear's / AS this Machine is Mostly Town & Such ???
Stan great for curb and sidewalk contractors city wourk it would have to push a 20ft Arctic in a snow storm for you to buy one
I don't know Stan the road side tires was doing alot of bouncing I guess it depends on how it feels inside the equipment while running the brush cutter.
Nice machine
It sure is!
Road construction crews have been using those for years, only their 3X larger. 👷
I want one
Plus, who does not like to say Mecalac, Mecalac.
GOD BLESS
you to!
600 hours in 18 months isn't much at all. Seems like it sits more than it's worked
Amazing machine
a great machine!
These will all be electrified by 2030. Imagine how much more stable they’d be with heavy low-mounted battery pack and almost no fuel costs comparatively and less maintenance bc power train has few moving parts.
No roto tilt on the excavator?
And no quick release. It's not an effective excavator.
Trying to reinvent the wheel. Just stick to backhoe and track excavators. Super good video though. Are they made in America?
here to help
interesting
For municipalities that are parkway driven makes alot of sense ... off road???
Kinda like a gradall
Wheels came off ground a bunch of time with brush chipper attachment. Not practical unless it’s for a dpw most people drive 20-30 miles. Take over 1 hr to get there and over hour to get back. When you use tax dollars you don’t care about cost
How much would it cost to hire a truck for transporting a similar machine both ways
@12345anton6789 Wouldn't most companies own their own transport set up for their own equipment
@@scotchdrnkr it depends on how much transport you need on a daily basis. It’s probably not economically feasible to have your own transport equipment if you only use it 1 hour a day
Not sold on it overall
Gonna buy a yanmar
I operat cat m317f whit a encon rotortilt the its a weel digger like that judt bigger😋
Personally, I like Wally & Jacob! Hank was worthless in my eyes, and his stupid jokes have worn thin. Glad they’re apart!!
Nope the rep came to give a demo to a group of us. Would never want to own one of these machines. Huddig or Lannen! Is the way to go.
Are those available in the states?
@@4rubberzaday Huddig is for sure. Lannen I don’t think is yet.