Is it a Backhoe? A Loader? - No, It’s a Huddig!
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- The Huddig is like nothing you’ve ever operated.
It can do so much more than a backhoe, which it resembles.
“It’s a super-diverse machine,” says our guest on this episode of The Dirt, Joel Marreel, strategic accounts manager for Huddig dealer Vancer Rail Systems.
It articulates and oscillates. It can be a 13-ton excavator with no need for stabilizers. It can be a wheel loader, a skid loader, a backhoe. You can even operate a manlift on it.
Any attachment you can run on a 13-ton excavator can be operated on it, and you can travel as you operate. You can even run it by remote control.
“You literally learn something new on the Huddig every single day,” Marreel says.
Host and professional operator Bryan Furnace was blown away by what it could do, including the in-cab functions and ergonomics. “It’s the most comfortable machine I’ve ever operated,” he says.
So to learn more about this unique machine, check out the latest episode of The Dirt.
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In This Episode:
00:00 - The Huddig - Excavator, Loader and More
00:33 - What is a Huddig?
01:57 - Not Just a Backhoe or a Loader
04:48 - Learning Curve, Training and Driving
06:37 - Cab and Operator Controls
08:46 - Remote Control
10:05 - Hydraulic Flow Control
11:20 - Customization
11:58 - Attachments
17:19 - Adding Tracks and Tire Customization
18:19 - Modularity
19:57 - What “Sold” Bryan on the Huddig
23:16 - Final Thoughts
Video Transcript:
Bryan Furnace:
Today we are here to talk about a very strange looking machine. We are here to talk about the Huddig. What is a Huddig, and what do you use it for? Well, that's why we brought in Joel, the expert on Huddig. He is joining us from Vancer, which is one of Huddig's primary dealers, and he's going to let us know what this thing is and why it's so awesome.
Well, Joel, thank you so much for taking your time to be on the show today. I really appreciate it.
Joel Marreel:
Man, it's good to be on the show. I've been following you since you first started tracking the Huddigs and enjoy your show.
Bryan Furnace:
Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I got to be honest, I think to date in my entire operating career, the Huddig is my most favorite machine I have ever run. For the sake of the audience, will you clue them in as to what this goofy looking machine is? What is a Huddig?
Joel Marreel:
Well, I'll tell you what, a Huddig is all about diversity. It is about five, six machines in one machine. That's exactly what we always talk about with all of our customers is we get into this machine and in a sense, I always revert to a CAT machine if I'm referring it because everybody knows a CAT machine.
Bryan Furnace:
Sure.
Joel Marreel:
I tell them it's a 930, maybe a hair smaller on the wheel loader side on the front. It's a 313 on the back. It's jointed on the top of that boom and stick as you have seen and operated, so it's just like a mini excavator. It's a skid loader, it's a backhoe, it's everything. It's literally five machines in one and it's just super diverse in what we use it for and what our other companies use it for that we sell to. It's just super diverse machine.
Bryan Furnace:
I will come back to that, but it's also going to play into my next question. Most people in the American market are going to look at this machine and go, "My God, that is a giant backhoe" or "It's a backhoe and a front loader that got together and had a kid." Can you explain to me why it is not a backhoe, and it is not a loader?
Joel Marreel:
You bet. It's the furthest thing from either one actually. But in Sweden they do refer to them as the backhoe and I'm always telling them, "Hey, we get into the states, we just can't do it" because it's just totally different. It's more of a robust. Now, it does do the same functions as the backhoe, only it's on steroids. Only it's way more. It's got more hydraulics. It's got more lift capacity. Like I say, it's the back end of that. I call it the work end. It's the equivalent of a 13-ton excavator where you don't have that in a backhoe. It does the backhoe plus more. People do look at it that way and it is quick to look at it, Bryan, when you're taking a look at it in the pictures. Yeah, it kind of does. Until you see that thing in person, which you've seen and you've operated, then all of a sudden it's like, "Holy cow. This is a huge machine."
Not only articulated but oscillated. Like I say, a 13 ton on the back. Got a wheel loader on the front. You can do so much with these and I just sold one just the other day up to Anchorage, Alaska. It's headed that way. They're going to run everything from blades on the front to snowblowers on the front to a bucket on the front and then the back... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
TH-cam has made me realize what a damn good development ability we have in Sweden. Everything from heavy trucks, building military things and even heavy machinery. I am proud to be Swedish 😃
The Scandinavians are way ahead of us with this tech. I used to run Ponsse CTL logging equipment in Oregon and the tech that goes into those machines is unreal. They use identical seats to the Huddig that are super adjustable and very comfortable. Forwarders use identical mini joysticks to the Huddig, very low effort, small wrist movements. Ponsse harvesters use their own custom joysticks that put all the machine functions litterally at your finger tips. The computer supports multiple operator profiles where each operator can setup individual crane functions to have different speed and sensitivity ramps, different button layouts, engine and travel speeds between 3 "gears" or work modes, again fully adjustable. Led lights everywhere all over the machine, made working in the dark a breeze. They even have a fridge and an oven! Lol oven is barely big enough for a medium burrito, but you can have a hot lunch! For the most part, the computer controls over hydraulics have been in those for over 20 years, American stuff is finally getting there.
Thanks for giving praise to Finnish technology and machinery. I hope to design some of those in future.
@@eedesign878 It's well deserved! In my experience, Ponsse is very good at making those machines and stands behind them when things go wrong. It's a pleasure to operate them too
Here in Sweden Huddigs are used by power companies, railroad maintenancence. Not really used for pure ground work, then excavators are better, and they also use ROTOtilt attachments. I have no direct expericence but Huddigs are more common here than other backhoes. JCBs are hardly seen here and Huddig has built backhoe loaders for almost as long time.
There is basicly 2 machines I want, A Huddig and an Unimog, with that I can do anything I need
WOW!!!! Will look into this for the company. We use smaller Finland machine called AVANT for construction + Farm + Tree surgery.
Versatile machine. First I've heard of this manufacturer.
They are extremely versatile but not a pro on everything. Extremely common all over here in Sweden.
Har alltid trott det är en hydema till jag såg priset 😅
@@ericpersson3724 Ja, de är inte billiga 😵
Intereresting! This is almost as complex as the Menzi Muck (spider excevator). A ton of functions - but oh my god with a good operator these machines almost look like magic! 😎🤘
Huddig?
I Dig!
check also lännen backhoe loaders from Finland.....i like both swedish huddig and finnish lännen-these two are best in the world
I want one! I can't afford one, but that's one of those designs that you just really want to have! Honestly, I'd be interested in something a little smaller, but with the versatility. For forestry mulching, land clearing, and arborist work, I could see it being very handy.
Just wait for the chinese to hack the design computer and start copying it.
Darn you! Now I want one.
This machine reminds me of the Zettelmeyer that we had in the Canadian military when I was in 40 years ago. Obviously this unit is more modern and refined.
OUTSTANDING Presentation, Explanation & Demonstration : o .....
This is a really unique piece of equipment I wonder how they hold up over time
I don't know! My 1982 Huddig 760 with joysticks and rototilt has no problems yet with 18k engine hours. It has even tipped over sideways down a slope slide one time. Some new windows, mirror, roof lights and a hydraulic hose later it was up and running again. And the windows fitted without tweeking. And my bump on the head took just a couple of days more. 😅
And I'm not changing to a newer one if this still work, because I can heat up my lunchbox on the engine header instead for built in oven! Haha!
Just drop us a line and we will show you how truly versatile the machine is.
Ps my Gf is one of the operators in your film :)
Thats a cool machine... never heard of it before
I have something based on same concept a finnish made Lannen C110, can be used to anything but a heavy piece of equipment. It is made in 1986 so everytime i use it i crack a hydraulic hose😂
The Lännen machines are pretty good. I have a Valtra 815-M4, which is sharing quite many parts with some of the Lännen machines. It's rather build like a tractor though, so not articulating. Anyways, those machines are having a somewhat similar concept, they're definitely more than a backhoe attachment to an ordinary tractor. Very capable, but they do have their limitations.
But the Huddig (or new Lännen machines, like the 8600 or so, are still a very different animal. Just the fact that they're rather new, have all electronic controls, are customizable in every aspect etc. make them very different.
I mean, if I want to drive facing backwards (I can do it, I don't need to put the outriggers down unless I fully extend the boom), I have to twist my neck and uppper body to reach the steering wheel. The Huddig has a little turning ring on one of the joysticks to articulate the machine while driving backwards. That's a huge difference if you need mobility while using the back end.
Such small details put the new machines just on a different planet.
Wonderful and versatile machine
I lovee companies like Huddig and Mecalac thinking outside the box
Ive been seeing these on youtube for years, would love one, just not affordable where im at
🎉 Wow this equipment is awesome🎉
I would expect that it would be pricey but on the other hand how much is a machine that is sitting around waiting to be used really costing you?
@@markfryer9880 Yes, it comes with a jaw dropping price tag.
We used to have something similar. The FIATALLIS FT110. It was okay. Switch from Crab to articulate or conventional front steer at the flip of a switch . Pilot controls on the seat. As long as it's fast and strong. No one likes lumbering and slow. I personally like the new holland lb95clr. It's fast light strong.
Built in my hometown!
Awesome Machine. Like a Swedish Army Knife.... :)
OMG Swiss Army Knife totally different country
@@MOSSFEEN well it was a joke!
At the earlier moments, company was near bankruft, but workers and some else decised to save this company, they got it quite flourising.
it's nice to see the our nifty European machine sein recognition in the us, there is much more competition he and the really push the manufacturer to move on constantly!!
Saw these machines in Finland back in 2005. I was sold instantly and wish I could get one and just be a for hire owner operator. It’s crazy looking at used machines with 16-18,000 hrs and still running tight.
Lännen makes similar style backhoe loaders in Finland.
Seem to recall Ruston Bucyrus had a prototype very similar back in the 1970s. in the 🇬🇧 don't know what happened to ,but actually saw it first hand in the Quarry I worked at in North Yorkshire.
I own a 1978 Dynahoe-190 BE made a 200 that had a front steer wheel. My 190 can dig down 19 feet no extension hoe.
In the early 1980s before BE got rid of all there Construction line. They made a fully rotating house excavator on large tires. You did not need a stabilizer. That was at the end of the BE run. Then they just focus on big mining. I love my Dynahoe, got her in 2003 with 8000 hours on her. Other than Hydraulic seals and a rear Brake overhaul in 2003. Have had to do nothing to the old Detroit Diesel (353) have put 100s of hours on her on my property. She is just my big boy TOY. It does everything
My wife lifts me in the front bucket and with my pole saw can limb trees. In my Humble opinion the Dynahoe that BE made in the 1970s was the earliest version of this new very special new breed of Backhoe Loader 😊
I just want to add. The 200 could turn both front and rear tires ( crab walk)
Definitely a machine on my "post lottery win shopping list"
Huddig! Huddig! HODOR! HODOR!!😂❤
Great farm tractor too
That's a bad Mama Jama!
Reminds me of a Dynahoe.....a good design.
We have two, they have been game changers. producing Six figure revenues with one operator.
Two machines? That is one highly skilled operator 🤠
@@Farming-Technologythat’s a lot of money 🤌🏼
What industry/services?
I'd like to see one in NNY
This machine seems awesome!!! Too good to be true?
It is true!
A pilot and carne op here, my tongue is on the keyboard, I WANT! The operator: 9:56
I have tryed Komatsu something similar and Volvo also made something similar. Tippical Scandinavian style one man goes out to work whit good tool and does it, do not need 5 men to stand around 😂 offcourse you will pay the premium for it.
most videos with a huddig shut off the comments, can;t blame them
Please tell me more!
We in Sweden are many year ahed (tink 30 years) US/UK i in work with execvator, in rotortilt/tiltrotator we have get this opions for alredy 30 years ago.
Maybe 10 years in reality. Buhey, since we are in Fairtale land, everything is possible. Let's just say 60 years ahead, while we are at it, and we an go to sleep happy
@@Rimrock300 sooo...
Did you have rototilt on your excavators 20yrs ago?
No?
Hardly not even today?
Ok...
They have been used in Sweden since 1986....
Awww... look at that. He has the flat bill, the scruffy face, the required Carhartt hoodie.
I'd really like to demo one for sure.
What's the height clearance for travel looks like the boom sits tall. Great option to have we'll see if it catches on
14' 8"
I have to say it @EquipmentWorld it alot like a hydrema backhoe
Greetings from SCotland! - I'm surprised you haven't been aware of these machines for more than a decade now already. Problem here is that we can use them: But no one wants to PAY for using its services: " All I want is a ten ton , or 20ton Excavator" is what you get. Cheap is cheerful. Isn't the UK Cheerful ! Huh and you guys have your Cheerleaders. Anyway it's all a case of Education and Brown envelopes to ge the machines out on site.
It can't have the capacity of a 13t digger as it has no stability. Looks a great one stop civil's contracting mc.
Have a look at Hydrema's Backhoe too 8)
Looks a hell of a lot like the British JCB
The JCB is 30% of these, but looks are similar. These are build SO much stronger, from a to z.
The only machine looking lika a Huddig are the Finnish made Lännen. "Same same - but different brand"
You choose a Lännen if you can't find an Huddig! ❤
@@uppsalahazzemarkstedt2759you forgot Hydrema. The 926 is also of the same type.
Made just like Hydrema
yeah, customization at a cost. Make a smaller version 100k or less for buidlers, not main commercial companies. 200K+ is out of reach.
Very similar to the Danish made Hydrema.
Just the Hudig is stronger and more versitile.
@@Stigsens1 could be be. Only been around the Hydrema a bit.
So its a dynahoe 200-4 with many more buttons to get busted.
What is the price range
A 1370 is about half a million $ or € here in Sweden..
Even old Huddig units from the 80-90's in ok shape can be 50k.
Close to the range "if you have to ask you won't afford it"...
How much? Do they make a smaller version for homeowners?
400K+ . Just one size. This is for railroad-owners) Would look for asian small tracktor with a hoe
They used to make a smaller version, but they stopped making them.
What’s the price range on these? Nice piece of equipment. The versatility can be very cool but so many times the cost side gets out of hand to where multiple pieces of equipment are a better choice.
Like 300-400k at least.
I bet the pricetag is eye watering
400k?
These two certainly have a love affair with that machine. Does it come with microwave and mini fridge?
If you want it, Yes it does.
letsdig18 needs to demo this!
I remember when Gradealls came out. Looks like the same game changer only better
You don’t run a machine. You operate a machine.
😉👍👍👍
A Swedish workhorse 🇸🇪👍🏻
so they put an excavator boom and a pto on a wheel loader
Are you sure it's not the opposit
JCB anyone?
Is the website blocked to anyone outside USA? As soon as I went on there it said I was blocked 🙆♂🤷♂
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hu-DDig not "hoo-dig"
Looks good, but waaaay more complicated than my toy. Parts n trying to fault find something like this would probably keep me awake at nite.
when a company makes a product wanted instead of a taxation grabbing govt funded plan.
Unimog on steroids? Don't hate on me I'm not hating on the machine it's amazing! just asking here.
Isn't Unimog a truck? Huddig is more of a wheel loader and an excavator having a baby :)
@@AlexKallnot too sure but as far as I know unimog hasalot of different attachment options...it's more of a tractor/truck mash i guess..
And it's expensive as hell. As ponsse.
So it’s a jcb 5cx which has been out for over 30 years. Wow that’s ground breaking 🤣🤣🤣
If you cant tell the difference, you probably shouldnt comment.
Please tell me the difference because I’m curious. the 5cx can do most of what that can do. Tbh never seen a hihab crane attached to a digger before. The 5cx can lift nearly 7 tons so not impossible and has plenty of attachments. it can drive while you operate the back arm. The only difference I can see is it don’t articulate and loses to it in weight being 12.5 ton
@@leeburwood3073 I'm curious how heavy this thing is... need a lowboy for sure
@@leeburwood3073the JCB falls short in many areas. 165 l/m vs 350 l/m hudraulic pump capacity, bucket tearout 61 kN vs 103 kN. The JCB is not up to the jobs normally done by a Huddig here i Sweden, noone in their right mind would ever buy a Huddig if it could be done effectively with a cheap JCB.
@@MyGFIsMaria didn’t say it was any good 🤣🤣🤣 jcb have gone down the pan the last few years
PTO? If not itll never make it here.
PTO ?
Nice one , a PTO is always welcome .
What do you need a PTO for that hydrolics can´t do?
@@rcx760 they are living in the -60s...-
I have tried mclac... It was like stupendously slow digging excavator with more auto crane/forklift capabilities. It's a strange machine with strange capabilities but highly compromised normal capabilities.
If you digging ditch and pushing dirt around just buy whatever backhoe is available in area. They all cost 70-110 k and they are all same shit quality
What have a mecalac got to do with it.
Looks to me like a Bidrive on Steroids. So interesting
Imagine something breaks on this machine! Oops 😬
it doesnt is the quick answer
Copy of lännen machine from scandinavia lännen and before it was james datet back 1960's
It's a rip off of a JCB multi use machine this is the machine everyone in the UK expects to see on any mid size building site.
It is a Swedish machine. and it has been on the market for a long time. Look at Huddig's history.
Yes, it seems to be a similar concept to a couple of the JCB models, except it articulates and is a little heavier. What it doesn't have and the JCB's do have is side shift on the back hoe which is so much better to use than a fixed hoe, particularly if you want to drive on the road.
The Hudig is far from a JCB, yes it have 4 wheels and a steering wheel like a JCB, rest is different
@@Pesmog driving on the road is not a problem for them as they are designed for that, and the backhoe tucks well in, as the man states it's not until you stand beside one that you appreciate just how big they are, they are a backhoe loader but on a whole other level to a JCB, that no criticism of a JCB, just a statement of fact.
It's. Not. A. Mecalac. That's what it's not
Copy of the machine called Metalak
Do you mean Mecalac? If so, no.
@@AlexKall yes, I did mean what you wrote and I wonder what that machine cost the Hodad listen I talked to the phone and it doesn’t always know how to type words
@@georgeniebergall7074 Yeah, phones can be wonky sometimes. I have never bought a Huddig, only ran one for a short while as an operator but the prices I've seen are around 300-500k USD for a new machine.
“Strategic accounts manager” but can’t pronounce “excavator”…. 🤨
There is no “S” in EXcavator!,
Yea, it's a backhoe with an articulated extending boom, not so hard to explain is it.
Extending boom?
It's a JCB, these have been built in Britain for ages, this is another case of America copying a British invention
Its a Huudig Swedish Company doing it for a long time.
Not even close
Others already told you that you're just completely wrong since Huddig is a Swedish company.
But it's also wrong in the sense that you're comparing a mediocre toaster (JCB) to a full blown kitchen oven with hot air circulation, grill, meat thermometer, timer, programs for different foods, a special pizza setting and a self-cleaning program (Huddig). You can make some sort of food with either, but one is still in a different league.
Its vastly superior to a JCB POS. And nobody copied the JCB why would they want to? Lol
@@bert26ayour statement is rather unfair, a JCB is a very competent machine but they are not made to the same size and adaptability as the Huddig, both do a job and both have their place based on requirements and cost. As JCB invented the backhoe loader concept back yon when, then everybody has copied it to a lesser or greater extent, everyone copied the first person to throw a stone, if you have a good idea that is how it is.
Looks wonderful but as a former retired tractor mechanic I see a VERY EXPENSIVE COMPUTER CONTROLLED PIECE TO REPAIR, VERY EXPENSIVE AND NOT A LONG LASTING MACHINE, OIL LEAKS, AND COMPUTERS AND WIRING HARNESSES DONT MIX
Well these machines been around in Sweden for more than 40 years. They last.
All those electronics... add time and weather.... it's all going to fail eventually.... elec of hydraulic is horrible unless u replace machine every 10 years
@@TheGaggenau I have no doubt it will operate for 40 years, if you have the money to fix all that fails along the way, I have seen American made eqt still working after 80 plus years with far less repairs and money spent than those machines will require.
Its not American made so no worries regarding the longlivety of the machine.
You know, the way the Swedes put together things and the material they use is way way higher quality compared to what your used to.
@@donkii85 that's true. Only downside is when they get that old, parts can be hard to find. Timberjack made awesome equipment, but some of those modules in the older forwarders and harvesters aren't made anymore and we had to go thru the local Ponsse dealer to find part numbers since Ponsee owns the module manufacturer that made the modules in some of the old timberjacks. Ponsse parts guys had a rough time but they were helpful nonetheless.
I built adobe houses when I get bigger I'll get one of theses words have been marked 😅