I agree with you about basically everything. Nabokov didn't want an ordinary reader to go through this book. He wanted someone who would obsess over it to try and solve the mystery. HH is obviously unreliable, but in what way? Is he so insane that he actually thinks he can fool people? So many questions.
>HH is obviously unreliable, but in what way? That's the million-dollar question. Why write this book? I'm thinking based on that first chapter, he wants to brag about his crimes and make himself look innocent from wrongdoing and by doing this he writes politic and elegant, twists the words in such a way that the reader only thinks how lovely the story is written. He does this to manipulate the reader's emotions. He does this to control the mind of the reader. >Is he so insane that he actually thinks he can fool people? And he has everybody is hyper focused on that first paragraph in chapter 1. Everybody that seemed to read the book only noticed how beautiful the words are written in the pages. Forgetting that these beautiful words are telling a twisted story. So twisted it's tangled in thorns (lol)... >Nabokov didn't want an ordinary reader to go through this book. He wanted someone who would obsess over it to try and solve the mystery. Yeah, I agree. My assumption is Stanley Kubrick had to read this book maybe 3 times. Once you start reading the book multiple of times and think about the characters involved, you then realize how much of a monster Humbert truly is.
@@tankardoftales4645 Something about the Forward is important. But I can't put my finger on precisely what. I need to watch your video about the Forward and Ch. 1 again. It's the author of the Forward that's bugging me. The alleged doctor. He's exhibiting an attitude similar to HH's. It's kind of disturbing. The way Jeremy Irons reads it is kind of spot on. But I don't know if Irons knew how perfectly he read and why. The doctor isn't at all concerned about the victims of HH. All he cares about is his prestige in his field. HH is just a case study for him. It's almost as if HH wrote the Forward himself and is again trying to pull a fast one on the reader. So weird.
@@theobjectofart This is why I addressed my issue with the Foreword on reddit and got shitted on. And this is why I ended up subscribing on the guy talking about the Foreword (Sorry name I forgot) I asked him several questions similar to yours, and yeah the Foreword cannot be trusted. The Foreword is like a parody on experts full of themselves. That's why he has all these big words. Yeah, the Foreword could be HH. On the other hand, the Foreword is a greedy doctor helping to sell a book from the expense of the victims. The Foreword is also the person that renamed some of the people and places... maybe it's the Foreword that named Dolores husband Dick.
Thanks I'm hoping to get back into the Lolita analysis in the next few weeks. We just born the "Grady Twins" and they require so much attention at the moment. I'm hoping to talk more about that in a week. Meanwhile, when you watch Lolita keep your eyes on Humbert band-aids and check out the house Humbert and Dolores is supposed to be staying. Pay close attention to the walls and the stairs to the second floor. Lol.
@@tankardoftales4645 congratulations! I should get there book as well. One thing I don't remember is, what was Humbert originally arrested for - what he did to Quilty? Best wishes - Steve
@@stevem.1853 Thanks. The book is fun to read but it's also disturbing. The key is the foreword, it sets up the reader to get a good idea what the book is going to be about while also feed you an idea that only "serious readers" understand what's going on. I think this was very clever for Nabokov because the plot holes (and there are many of them) kind of get filled in by the readers interpretations. According to the book we don't know [The foreword don't say and even though HH is arrested at the end nobody say's why] - it's assumed he was arrested for the murder of Quilty (but I think he's also murdered Charlotte and Dolores) [I'll be talking about that in my video] The movie says he's arrested for killing Quilty - although the starting of the movie is different from the ending of the movie.
I liked the mystery. Although I suspect the book was inspired from HH Holmes and Earle Nelson. This was a tough video to make because I didn't want to explain the killers and Dolores fate in the story.
@@snicksabea Actually no. I've read a few interviews when people were asking Vladimir Nabokov about Sally Horner if she was Lolita, he said no. I think while he was writing his book the kidnapping story broke news and he put a reference about the kidnapping in his book. Maybe he did this during his second or 3rd edit. Which made me do some outside research. Sure I have zero evidence but my assumption is HH Holmes and Earle Nelson. In the Stanley Kubrick movie it kind of suggest Carl Tanzler. Maybe I should make a video to explain how I came up with these guys. It seemed that people are pushing Sally Horner, maybe because they want to believe that Humbert was able to take a girl from the 7th grade and put her into high school in the next town as a possibility. I do find this questionable and I keep thinking Norman Bates talking to Mother - and that's what's I think is going on in Lolita.
@@tankardoftales4645 Please do make a video about the Earle Nelson case. I would love that. I've been reading a little about it and it seems really interesting when you compare Nelson with HH. Something about Nelson was completely psychopathic, but he also must have been charming like HH because he managed to gain all those people's trust. 🤔
Watching this later. Will be back with comments. Can't wait!!! 🤗
Cool, I love to know your thoughts about it.
I agree with you about basically everything. Nabokov didn't want an ordinary reader to go through this book. He wanted someone who would obsess over it to try and solve the mystery. HH is obviously unreliable, but in what way? Is he so insane that he actually thinks he can fool people? So many questions.
>HH is obviously unreliable, but in what way?
That's the million-dollar question. Why write this book? I'm thinking based on that first chapter, he wants to brag about his crimes and make himself look innocent from wrongdoing and by doing this he writes politic and elegant, twists the words in such a way that the reader only thinks how lovely the story is written. He does this to manipulate the reader's emotions. He does this to control the mind of the reader.
>Is he so insane that he actually thinks he can fool people?
And he has everybody is hyper focused on that first paragraph in chapter 1. Everybody that seemed to read the book only noticed how beautiful the words are written in the pages. Forgetting that these beautiful words are telling a twisted story. So twisted it's tangled in thorns (lol)...
>Nabokov didn't want an ordinary reader to go through this book. He wanted someone who would obsess over it to try and solve the mystery.
Yeah, I agree. My assumption is Stanley Kubrick had to read this book maybe 3 times. Once you start reading the book multiple of times and think about the characters involved, you then realize how much of a monster Humbert truly is.
@@tankardoftales4645 Something about the Forward is important. But I can't put my finger on precisely what. I need to watch your video about the Forward and Ch. 1 again. It's the author of the Forward that's bugging me. The alleged doctor. He's exhibiting an attitude similar to HH's. It's kind of disturbing. The way Jeremy Irons reads it is kind of spot on. But I don't know if Irons knew how perfectly he read and why. The doctor isn't at all concerned about the victims of HH. All he cares about is his prestige in his field. HH is just a case study for him. It's almost as if HH wrote the Forward himself and is again trying to pull a fast one on the reader. So weird.
@@theobjectofart This is why I addressed my issue with the Foreword on reddit and got shitted on. And this is why I ended up subscribing on the guy talking about the Foreword (Sorry name I forgot) I asked him several questions similar to yours, and yeah the Foreword cannot be trusted.
The Foreword is like a parody on experts full of themselves. That's why he has all these big words.
Yeah, the Foreword could be HH. On the other hand, the Foreword is a greedy doctor helping to sell a book from the expense of the victims.
The Foreword is also the person that renamed some of the people and places... maybe it's the Foreword that named Dolores husband Dick.
I have seen a couple of your videos before, but Miss M sent me back to you. I'm glad she did, I thoroughly enjoy your analysis.
Thanks I'm hoping to get back into the Lolita analysis in the next few weeks.
We just born the "Grady Twins" and they require so much attention at the moment. I'm hoping to talk more about that in a week.
Meanwhile, when you watch Lolita keep your eyes on Humbert band-aids and check out the house Humbert and Dolores is supposed to be staying. Pay close attention to the walls and the stairs to the second floor. Lol.
@@tankardoftales4645 congratulations! I should get there book as well. One thing I don't remember is, what was Humbert originally arrested for - what he did to Quilty? Best wishes - Steve
@@stevem.1853 Thanks. The book is fun to read but it's also disturbing. The key is the foreword, it sets up the reader to get a good idea what the book is going to be about while also feed you an idea that only "serious readers" understand what's going on. I think this was very clever for Nabokov because the plot holes (and there are many of them) kind of get filled in by the readers interpretations.
According to the book we don't know [The foreword don't say and even though HH is arrested at the end nobody say's why] - it's assumed he was arrested for the murder of Quilty (but I think he's also murdered Charlotte and Dolores) [I'll be talking about that in my video]
The movie says he's arrested for killing Quilty - although the starting of the movie is different from the ending of the movie.
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Thanks I hope you'll enjoy the video. I'm excited to work on the movie next.
@@tankardoftales4645 Can't wait for your analysis. So excited! 🤗
Anything you liked about the book?
I liked the mystery. Although I suspect the book was inspired from HH Holmes and Earle Nelson. This was a tough video to make because I didn't want to explain the killers and Dolores fate in the story.
It’s based about a girls life named Sally.
@@snicksabea Actually no. I've read a few interviews when people were asking Vladimir Nabokov about Sally Horner if she was Lolita, he said no. I think while he was writing his book the kidnapping story broke news and he put a reference about the kidnapping in his book. Maybe he did this during his second or 3rd edit. Which made me do some outside research. Sure I have zero evidence but my assumption is HH Holmes and Earle Nelson. In the Stanley Kubrick movie it kind of suggest Carl Tanzler. Maybe I should make a video to explain how I came up with these guys.
It seemed that people are pushing Sally Horner, maybe because they want to believe that Humbert was able to take a girl from the 7th grade and put her into high school in the next town as a possibility. I do find this questionable and I keep thinking Norman Bates talking to Mother - and that's what's I think is going on in Lolita.
@@tankardoftales4645 Please do make a video about the Earle Nelson case. I would love that. I've been reading a little about it and it seems really interesting when you compare Nelson with HH. Something about Nelson was completely psychopathic, but he also must have been charming like HH because he managed to gain all those people's trust. 🤔
@@theobjectofart I think I might have to. Needs to be made before talking about the Stanley Kubrick story.