To all the people who have liked or commented on this video, first I want to say thank you for watching, I enjoyed reading your guy’s stories. But I want to say I finally created a clan and it’s called, All The Presidents Men. To give lore the name is from a movie that is becoming one of my favorites and the movie is about two guys who expose the president . And even though I didn’t expose anyone really , i did “expose” the solo side of destiny. And with that if you want to join , then I’ll see you there www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
Well looks like you struck a nerve because there are plenty solo players out there. I've been playing since beta and in that time made friends and did very few raids. the main reason for that is I never wanted to have people complain! Raids are too stressful for me. I was able to complete one raid when there was a cheese of have 12 players on. It was the most fun I ever had because even if you fucked up someone else was round to pick up the slack. I wouldn't mind playing with you if you don't mind carrying an old man LOL over 60! send friend request
I've been a solo player since I started playing d2 back in 2019. I have never completed any raid before, though I used LFG for Deep Stone but it was a terrible experience. Also I tried joining your clan but it keeps giving me an error message
I have over 1000 hours in this game and i still can feel just how you feel. You are making me want to redownload the game just to play with you my man.
Bro the fireteam finder def helps solo players. I just create my own group and get only chill people. I kick anyone being serious or going hard af... like bro. I wanna have fun not have someone shoving a stick up my ass
There was a kid who joined our D1 raid group during RoI. We were adults who met at the100 for King's Fall a year before. We welcomed him and he did very well. Eventually life brought us to different places, but not before he sent a heartfelt party message, thanking us for all the fun times and moral support. Hearing your story now made me realize that message probably meant much more than I thought then.
I’ve been a solo player for years. But I’m 52 years old and my three sons all quit playing back once D2 first started. lol, my sons got me into D1 back 9 years ago…. Crazy how much this has changed.
i know this is random but i just wanna thank you for being the kinda dad to play video games with his sons. if i have kids im gonna do all i can for that kind of relationship
I am 58 years old and my sons got me into Destiny. Neither of them play very often and I play every night. It is always solo or in matchmaking. Would love to raid, but no experience in it. Need to get some of these younger players to be patient and show us the ropes. Nice to hear of other older players on here. All the best. I am "Ur Ma" on D2.
5 year-old guardian here, my friends introduced me to Destiny's universe when Forsaken was launched, I've hearded about Destiny 2 before that, but I never wanted to touch it even with a stick, but I gave it an opportunity, it was all fun until Season of the Opulence came to us, all my friends left the game and they never returned, then I shared activities during the next couple of years with a lot of clans, making friends around the globe and now, I'm the leader of my own clan (we're spanish talkers btw), it's crazy to think how my original fireteam left and how i gained up a more experienced fireteam, so much things has changed since 2018.
@freddymel I'm with you. I know this is really late I'm 45, Played D1 and have been playing D2 solo since Forsaken. Even after viewing guide videos on a lot of missions and raids, its still very intimidating but I would like to do exotic missions with a group I agree we need to find and Old Man clan LOL
Hey props to you for putting your perspective out there. I've been playing solo for most of D2 and I can definitely relate with some of the points you had! I find it odd that some players have a 'god complex' just because they have this or that when in reality we all start out somewhere. Great video 👍
I've been playing solo ever since Light fall came out. I was the only person in my clan who would log on and do activities, but now i feel kinda lonely. But I'm not fond of meeting other Guardians sometimes because some can a bit too...extreme. Like, they take this game seriously while i just want to hang out with someone. I'm thinking about using the fireteam finder feature. I just hope my crippling anxiety doesn't get the best of me.
That feel when you constantly refresh the finder looking for a friendly post teaching, only to have your anxiety hit you like a truck. Then it fills up.
online interaction in general is hard i never played with other people in destiny because im afreid to fail because i am new to destiny i never did a raid i dont know any builds and i just use the weapons i fill comfortable with i see people solo raids and i am like how thes someone gets to this point and them i think to my self i probably need people to do raids to get good gear and them i can solo raids and because of that i only play pvp gambit and dares
Agreed, I love destiny and I have like two friends I play with on a semi-weekly basis. I've had a lot of bad experiences with the game especially just people being angry and yelling at me for not being good enough at the game. I usually play gambit and do the story missions. It's a lonely road but honestly it makes me not as anxious as playing because my account had to be remade because the platform I played on died 😅 I've tried raiding again, but with how long I've been gone for and how different everything is since I've left just makes me feel better playing alone. I'm usually a very upbeat person for raids and everything but genuinely after everything I've encountered with the community it's just put me into a place where I feel uncomfortable with playing with large groups.
You know what man , people like you will be the best people to teach and guide other solo players who wants to do raids / dungeons but don’t have friends who play the game or just nervous to try , because you clearly understand and sympathise with them ! You also said something very important when u were doing the VOG raid - you said the group was serious and not talking and having fun … and that made me tear up tbh , you know why ? Because people like you and me who just wanna have FUN are rare in a LFG so go ahead and start your clan my guy .. people like you are what every game needs .
Im not sure how this popped up for me, but this was great to listen to. I hope your clan goes well. Your attitude and drive to make this game and experience for others better is what makes you great. I always loved teaching one or two people new positions in raids when my group got good at them because imparting more knowledge and making people more versatile meant they'd get kicked less in their next group hopefully. Just a thought as you get better ;) Much love Angel 🧡
bungies addition with fireteam finder is actually a pretty good step towards helping solo players. also for people getting heated over encounters, dont care about them, they usually dont have people to play with
I learned that Destiny is best played with at least one to two people you already know. I used to play with my brother and he introduced me to a lot of good people back in D1. But when d2 came out everyone left. I got back into the game with my coworkers, I’m cool if you ever need someone to play with. Im trying to get back into raiding
Low-key this hurts my heart. I try teaching/playing with as many new/baby lights as possible. Ik it's an extremely toxic game/community for anyone new to the D2 experience(which is heartbreaking) & Ik I'm patient enough to help those seeking guidance in game. I'd just rather be the reason more "lil lights" choose to continue playing Destiny, not give them a reason to give up on it. There are still plenty of players like me here that are willing to put in the time/effort showing blueberries the ins & outs. (Just please don't get dissuaded by the toxic many, because someone like me maybe in your next lobby!)
Definitely agree with you I’m a solo player myself what your saying is one of the main reasons I play solo and just the campaigns that’s why I was mad red war was gone because it’s a great solo story and raids are tough because of too many serious toxic people that need to touch grass 😂 definitely would join the clan
@@titanmax111 yeah I agree it’s just can get annoying when I get kicked for not having the tractor canon or being a hunter and not a healing warlock like I’m not trying to set the biggest speed run just wanna have fun 😂 but your right I met some really cool people it’s just I’m getting really unlucky recently
In my experience, a majority of the toxic raiders come from Discord LFG. Avoid that like the plague and you really shouldn't come across too many toxic people@@titanmax111
4:36 I feel you Angel, I remember the days you can join up a session like its more of a social game, now with D2 where Bungie is focused on their "core" desired player base which would lean towards challenging content like GMNF with tough Champions or Trials, on top of the mentality to get the most meta build. It doesn't leave a lot for us solo or on/off again casual players to get a sense of enjoyment of just playing the game and meet other like minded folks to foster a great fireteam and slowly work towards the Raids and Endgame.
I can absolutely relate, I’ve wanted to start getting into raids as well but it’s so hard to find people that will take the time to teach me what to do
This is what I like about fireteam finder, solo players like myself can finally do stuff and most the people I've played with were really nice and helpful and some people I've played with were the funniest guys I've met
Man. In D1 I used to raid all the time while I played and would teach people and have no problem carrying. Now in D2 my raid group moved on and I've been mainly a solo player and it's been super rough. I think I've done maybe two whole raids in their entirety while having maybe 10+ total attempts to even try to do raids. That experience you have where you ask questions and it's like talking to a rock is all too common. It's even worse with the amount of people who are willing to teach but definitely don't have the patience to do so. I've never been kicked or dumped on by other players in LFG groups but I've seen it in too many attempts and been in too many LFG raid groups with a revolving door cast of people coming in and out. I've basically given up on raiding and just do solo dungeon content when I want a decent and fun challenge.
I feel this man I've been slowly chipping away at all the raids and still can't get a Kings fall run because every time I join nobody will tell me what's going on watching videos doesn't help you with experience of map awareness
When you say no one will tell you what's going on, are you hosting a run specificially for learning or are you joining a normal run expecting people to teach you ? Remember in normal runs, people don't have all the time in the world. You can't expect everyone to just help you. Some people will help you and that's great but you shouldn't expect it unless you do a run specificially for learning. Sherpa runs you know.
@@oxsila people might not have all the time in the world, but being part of the team that just boots the unknowing instead of teaching them only contributes to the problem and circles it right back to your feet. I argue with a buddy of mine about this all the time, it shouldn't be on the newbies to know what everything means or how to do it, we are a community for a reason, behave like it. Secondly, anyone walking into high end content expecting it to go fast or perfect is fucking delusional. Its content designed to be long, hard, and challenging, not burnt through and steamrolled. If you're unwilling to take the time to teach, because you dont have the time, that's on you for not making the time for trying to do something time consuming. Its not on the new players to be perfect, its on us existing players to just be decent human being and be willing to give someone a chance. Again: if you boot someone instead of teaching them, youre not solving the issue. Youre pushing it onto someone else for someone else to bitch about and then it eventually comes back to you again for you to bitch about. People with the "not my problem you shouldve known" mentality are the exact thing this video is calling out, its toxic, scummy, degenerative and beyond ignorant. Im sick of this playerbase ignoring everything beyond 5 feet in front of them and slapping "not my problem" or "cry harder" or any iteration of the blanket ignorant response as a legitimate argument when its just you people refusing to be more open minded.
I played solo for a little bit, but LFG is pretty awful. People don't really care about you, and over time that encourages you to not care about people in a vicious cycle. When I wasn't in a clan, I was actively looking and trying them out til I would find one that vibed with me. EDIT: To be clear, trying out clans is also pretty rough mentally, but once you find one, its game-changing over the long term.
I’ve been playing the game for years and well I just don’t do raids anymore because you either get groups that fall apart or you just get yelled at for anything
I’m the soloiest of solo players, don’t have friends and don’t look to make em so pretty much everything that requires a team I join an LFG for, there’s bad ones and there’s good ones.
Lfg is the best thing and the worst thing. I have met some great people on lfg, but yeah, you never know what you are getting into. The later into the season the more you get serious groups that know how to do everything better than you and would tell you what to do in the least nice way possible. It is soooo hard to find people to just have fun with. I feel you on this. Pay them no mind though, there are still good people out there. Keep at it and you will find them. Good luck, guardian
Best thing to do is find a group of five people and get to know them really well and it’s fun. Because you’ll all be in sync with each other and it’s just so much fun. That’s the reason I enjoy playing the game. I don’t think any other fps is as good as Destiny because of it.
Bro, I have been playing Destiny since the absolute beginning, players have always been competitive but I remember most of our D1 players were also more chilled and more team oriented and a lot more forgiving. The player group, in general, seems to have gotten less forgiving, hyper competitive and less patient. But there are still players, myself included, who will give advice but are patient. Like today, myself and 2 other players I invited thru “Fireteam,” to actually do the final Calus boss on Legendary. Bro you gotta move during that final, everyone initially just stood in areas and got killed, except I kept moving and died very little…we had tons of wipes, each of those guys quit before I did; 2-3 hours later, after my 3rd group quit, I called it a day. Persistence wins a lot of hard stuff in Destiny2, we did a lot more grinding in D1, and I think it made us way more patient and way more understanding. Now a lot of folks have cheeses and builds, which is cool, but they’re on short fuses and little is shared unless you watch guys like Rick Kackis. But a lot has changed, glad you’re teaching and that’s the way to go, always friend players who hang with you, even if a few stick, that’s better than zero.
Making friends is harder in Destiny than real life is the most real shit I've heard. I still struggle trying to raid and we are at the Final Shape. Feels bad man.
That seems like an issue you have, if you can’t make friends with people you probably will never see face to face or even just have a conversation with someone online or in person that’s something you need to get over
I feel you there, people go on and on about how you can use lfg to just do anything and theres no reason not to, but like, the majority of my lfg experiences have been negative to the point where i genuinely dont like raiding anymore. Any time someone asks me to do a raid, i feel bad because i want to help them with the raid or play with a friend, but i get this inexplicable feeling of anxiety or something that made me not want to do anything. Even when its my friends, people i get along with really well, i still hate doing raids, which sucks because i really want some of the raid weapons. Then i end up forcing myself to raid with them and i end up hating it more, and its all because of lfg. Everyone says "lfg isnt bad and the bad teams are a small portion of the playerbase" but the fact of the matter is that most of the times i played it, i've had bad experiences
Omg i feel so seen. I never want to raid again not because i dislike the concept of it but because doing them literally makes me physically ill. I get cold sweats, i'm shivering, my heart is pounding and shit, I cant handle it. Even when i joined a sherpa and performed great i STILL couldn't shake the feeling so i just decided that they aren't for me. I know im missing out on the best content in the game, but if it comes at the cost of my mental health? Imma have to pass.
I've been playing since luanch, and till this day, I've never done a single raid. The only raid exotic I have is anarchy, and that only cus of the spoils glitch during beyond light, then it got patched.
Hey man even at 6415 hrs on steam I still feel like that going into the new raids. Destiny is better with friends. I love the idea of helping teach and learning with the clan to get all those cool titles locked behind completing things with clan mates lol I felt the honesty in this one and that’s something we all need. Nice vid angel imma keep my eye out for the clan 👍🏼
I can relate to this bro! I've only done VOG on D2 as I've found the LFGs not helpful and again the requirements are always asking how many clears you have or they say they're chilled but they don't have patience (I'm good but not great). It's a shame because I feel like find people to have patience and have a laugh with. I guess...social anxiety kicks in for me.
yea thats why i dont raid anymore. i used to raid alot back in the day but now its like now that im not caught up on all the new raiding tricks and techs people dont be wanting to raid wit me and its lowkey annoying but the new lfg finder in game is giving me some hope since it helped me clear my first last wish raid after a year or so of taking a break from destiny
Hi, great vid. I'm a solo player. In my late 40's and have quite a bad stutter, so I I have learned to do the solo stuff in any MMO I play. My youngest son is off to college, and I started playing D2 with him (his go to game) so we had some time before he leaves.
Chances are that raid group was a little older, and had been playing together for a while. When you join a group please make sure the post says something like "chill" "welcome all" they tend to be more open to communicate with Randoms. People have been getting removed from, or leaving clans recently. I myself have culled non active guardians, and my clan mates always invite new lights. Play with us sometime. We're a group of all kinds of age groups and demographics.
I'm being very sincere about joining some games with us. Let me know if I can invite you on a dungeon or raid. Our clan moto is " Never take away someone's hope, it may be the only thing they have left."
I feel the same way man, I used to raid all the time. After my friends stopped playing, I had to go through LFG. And I had a couple good runs with random people, but most were horrible. Most people were bitter or short tempered if you didn't know the secret strategy they do. There are just too many unpatient people that make this community look unwelcoming.
My first ever vog completion was joining in a clan run that i never interacted with previously. No mic,and i barely knew what to do.i was shaking so bad and froze when it came to shooting those red boxes(oracles? I forget). But then they yelled my name and i snapped back. We two phased and i got vex. Super memorable for me. It also was the starting point of me trying to do endgame activities. I wonder what that clan is doing now. I don't think id be playing today still without them.
This is so relatable. I am also a solo player now but I used to be part of a very active group. We used to grind endgame content on the regular and up until Witch Queen, I had every exotic. That being the case, it feels kind of unfair now to be treated like a “new light” because I don’t have all of the new meta stuff. One thing that I have noticed is how build customizability has vastly improved over the years but, ironically, build creativity is being squashed by the community. What I mean by that is; when you join a group for a raid or any end game content, they want you to use exactly what the streamers have labeled “meta.” These sort of min-maxed, glass cannon, DPS speedrunner builds. Even though builds can be so much more diverse and interesting and effective in different ways, people will straight up kick you if you try to use some unique build or weapon combination. I run Sixth Coyote, Void Hunter in Trials and all the time, people call it a “meme build” or try to micromanage my build or play style. The thing is, being able to play and succeed, any way you want, is what Bungie wanted. The DPS and stat numbers don’t always reflect effectiveness because different people are good with different weapons and play styles. Furthermore, I think that one of the most toxic additions to the game was Raid Report / Trials Report. It allows players to just filter out middling and low ranked players in favor of higher KDA or raid clears which means that good players always group up with good players and the less skilled players are forced to settle with lower skilled teammates which often results in match losses or more deaths and, by extension, a further decreasing rank on these sites. This dynamic is responsible for further widening the gap between top players and average players.
I have like 3500 hours in d2 and have played most of it solo, it's rough and the community can be a bit toxic towards new players. Hopefully things will get better in the future, I also stopped playing destiny after witch queen bcs I feel like the corporate side of bungie is killing the stuff I fell in love with.
As a solo player, in lfg groups we just wanna get the raid done cause we already know this gonna take a few hours. So may as well lock in at the beginning😭
I agree so much with you, I was a solo player and trying to get people to play the game was hard, they really wanted you to knew all the things and if you said that you didn't know or that you wanted to learn they would kick you out in no time. I also learned that the best times to try and get a group to play with is when there is a new raid or dungeon so you can go to lfg servers and start playing with other people till you find someone you enjoyed playing with and add them, I met a lot of people this way and my actual raid/squad group. Also nice video :D
Bless your heart. Hang in there dawg. I feel your pain. Its crazy how our early bad experiences always stick and change the way we do things as we get older.
100% feel your experience. Learning a raid with a team is probably the most fun you can have in destiny. Never understood why there wasnt any matchmaking for raids. Nobody has 6 ppl available for a raid 24/7
I did absolutely everything in Destiny 1 (exceptget to the lighthouse). Played the heck out of Destiny 2, but my whole friend group disappeared, so I've never done raids or even dungeons. Recently some other friends have gotten into it, but they're not very good at the game. And neither am I anymore; I had a stroke 4 years ago, so my reaction times are garbage now. The game is rough, but I still manage to have fun. Thank you for sharing your experiences and thoughts. I love how TH-cam is recommending smaller creators to me now. Keep it up!
This was beautiful and brought tears to my eyes! I've had a lot of the same expierences during parts of D2. You brought me back to Destiny's Golden Era when you brought up Planet Destiny and many other awesome "Old School" Destiny content creators. I hope you do create a clan and it's filled with people who are friendly, understanding, patient and really enjoy the game and learning/teaching it alongside others! Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, from a new sub😁
If you’re a new player to Destiny 2 and are only interested in the campaign here are a few things to understand. You start the game off fairly powerful. The reasoning for this is for you to be able to jump in with your friends and play together online, but if you’re only interested in the campaign its to your benefit because you don’t have to grind so hard to enjoy the story. The Timeline is just a recap of the entire story up to The Final Shape. Some recaps are cinematic, some you have to read, and some are playable quests. As a new player you’ll want to play these quests to get the reward at the end. Bungie now offers Shadowkeep and Beyond Light campaigns for free. Only the campaigns. To get the extra goodies that come with these respected dlc’s you’ll have to purchase their packs. again if you just want to play the campaigns don’t worry about it for now. New Light not to be mistaken for Beyond Light, NEW LIGHT is an introduction to game and its mechanics. I recommend playing through it for as long as you can tolerate it and than start Shadowkeep. The first 3 dlc’s released are no longer available to download or purchase Bungie vaulted them so Shadow Keep is where the playable story campaign begins. To start Shadowkeep you have to go to the Moon and click on the blue banner that will get you started. Lastly, I just want to stress not to over think it. It a MMO and if you never played a game like this than it can be overwhelming. MMO don’t play like a traditional video game I.e God of War. You’re going to see other players on the map hopping around doing their own quests or even the same one you’re doing. Just ignore it and have fun. By the time you’ve finished the two dlc campaigns I guarantee you’ll have a better understanding of the game and its mechanics.
I only decided to play raids as a solo player during lightfall because I was too scared of messing up and getting kicked but I searched in a discord lfg for sherpa runs so that it's expected that you don't know the raid mechanics. Thats the only way I played through all the raids to get the guardian ranks thing. Even now when I use lfg I only join groups that have something like "chill" in the post.
I felt that, raiding is so hard, especially when trying to keep up while learning, Deep stone is probably my favorite of the ones I've beat, and I have a nice legendary scout rifle to show for it, but no exotics, the craziest thing I've gotten to do is climb my way all the way to Nezerac in Root of nightmares on contest, might've been the easiest raid, but I went through so much headache at the end trying to beat Nezerac, the amount of LFG groups that came and went, never beat the guy, but I can definitely say I did well As a warlock, I also dislike the "well of radiance meta", there are so many strong builds out there, I was one of the few who cheered a little when starfire fell from grace, it was great, but it was a curse, I have a build for every subclass on Warlock, but there's always the day when you'll hear "hey can you run well" Born to Nova, Forced to Well
I been a solo from the start of forsaken. Im a heavily motivated player when it comes to challenges. And the feeling to keep going knowing i can do it is amazing when you actually complete it. And i solo flawless prophecy, grasp, warlord, pits of heresy, and now gonna try ghost of the deep and shatter throne. But still i miss doing raids and actually down to do new ones that i haven’t done before. I didn’t even join a lfg at all. Im to nervous to do it with random cause im scared to disappoint or annoy them. I could go on but you get the idea. So i kinda understand that feeling but praise to you for even joining randoms I wouldn’t do that at all
I'm glad you put yourself out there and tried your luck with LFG. Like you said, the game is at its best when you play it with other people. You sometimes run into some less-than-pleasant people. But eventually you find the chill people that you can vibe with for hours.
Dude, this is exactly how i feel about trying to find groups to do anything. In D1 I tries LFGs and my experience was just so terrible that i stopped and just played pvp. Even now I have a clan, but those guys, while awesome, no life the game get everything then bounce to other games till the next expansion. Since i cant play as often i end up left out of a lot of stuff after they leave. And the new in game lfg is just trash. Its all must have this and that with 30+ completions. Its just nice to hear others have a similar experience and feel as awkward as i do about talking to new people. Stay cool bro.
Good on you for talking about it because it can feel super awkward. In my experience that sort of cold response like you had from those guys who wouldn’t talk to you much might be from guys who are lacking in personal confidence so they feel like they always have to act “cool” rather than just talk openly and honestly. You’re nervous but you’re prepared to show that and ask advice. But guys like these feel like they either have to act like they know everything or talk smack. The only guy I knew personally who acted like that had a Dad who treated him very badly so it could even be something like that. Whatever the reason it’s pretty sad. Anyway I also firmly believe that no one who’s at least somewhat happy and trying to learn and have fun is ever going to treat anyone like that. TL/DR It’s definitely not you, it’s definitely them. Which is pretty much what you said anyway😁
You in the tower asking for a trial teammates just remind me of asking people in Warframe trading for hydroid prime parts just walking up to people and typing “Hydroid Prime Chassis?” The one that stuck with me is the guy basically said “does it look like I have it for sale?” Like I was bothering him asking for it in the first place in the end I got what I wanted but that one interaction demoralised me for the whole day
Angel you have learnt that there are people who are walkin round with there heads up there arse . It's good to see they haven't killed your spirit . You're right raiding is supposed to be fun .you have the right to ask questions without being bullied . Nuff luv lad 😊
i just dont raid anymore, only done a handful like, i never have the friends to do it and i never trust LFG people so its just one of those where i just go without
Little humblebrag, but what you described at the start of VoG is what my group tries to stay away from when we pick up LFGs. We are a group of 4, so we often have to find our last 2 people via LFG. We usually invite them to discord if they have it, or we all join in-game VC to be able to talk to them. We don't let up on the name-calling and the joke making, and we try to include them right from the start. We all were lone LFGs at one point and we know how awkward and how daunting it can be to join a "tense" group, so we pretty much immediately set the vibes of "here to have fun first". Also, I wholly relate to the teaching thing you brought up. I recently have been joining LFGs that say "need help" or something like that, and it has been super rewarding. This was a great video to listen to. As someone who plays solo during the week, I totally get what you mean by "Destiny is peak when playing with other people". If you ever wanna do anything, just shoot me a message. I'm always down to game with people are interested in having a good time.
I have been around for seven decades, and been playing destiny solo for almost one. I have never done a raid or a dungeon. I dont play crucible or pvp either. I feel like I am one of the worst players in the game. I feel a lot like everyone else. I try to be helpful when I play missions with other players. Played with my kids a few times but they are not destiny fans. So I just play what I can complete and have fun. Its just a game. Great video. Good luck.
Yeah the majority of lfg groups are trash with communication and are toxic. I was a solo player for the longest time and rarely did raids because it’s so anxiety inducing when playing joining from lfg. and just finally found a cool chill clan and have done raids pretty often now.
I solo'd most of the time too. i have a buddy that do some GM together, like duo, and some raids encounter duo but we can't really do whole raid because our skill wasnt that godly. We manage to convince friends of friends to try out D2, and guide them to do raids. We go really slow, like 1 ecounter per day and hope to clear the raid in a week. it goes really well until IRL pulls them the other way. I still do GMs on and off in d2, but really finding a decent human for a consistent raid party or game is so hard. I just created a clan though but my problem with most is probably play time, because its gmt+8, and we usually play like kinda late >11pm
This perfectly explains how I felt with raids in D2, always heard stories of people getting kicked due to the problems you've faced, so that alone has always turned me off. Stopped playing around this years Halloween and it's been in my mind since, but since I define myself as a Solo Player, there's not much for me to do other than Strikes or Crucible. Always wanted to do raids, but too nervous to chatter.
I’ve been playing mostly solo for years now, I’ve done everything from normal dungeons and raids to flawless raids and master challenges and day one completions all through lfg and I’ve had a couple bad experiences but overall most people are great, its shit that you and some others have the majority of their experience be bad, I’ll be happy to teach and help you but I’m literally in the same boat, I got diagnosed with social anxiety when I was 9 so I got very nervous about doing raids and talking to people even to this day with me being a very confident and competent player with knowing more than most d2 TH-camr about the game and I started playing destiny one when I was 8 and just about to go to university (college) as well, it takes time and just not letting some negative assholes ruin your fun it’s a big problem that bungie can’t really fix that’s why me and others in the clan that are experienced try to take other clanmates through dungeons and raids, they use some of the worst load outs and weapons I’ve ever seen but we make it work and I try to guide them, I’m lucky in a way because of my skill and knowledge I can hold peoples weight and push them without burdening them but people who can do that either have to big of an ego or cant be bothered teaching others at all which is sad
Totally resonated with you man, played d1 as a kid as well and never completed a single raid because I was too scared to join randoms, I specifically remember grinding archons forge on days end 😭
to be really honest, I had similar situation when it comes to the raids (sometime dungeon for flawless triumph), even though I just wanted to make a new friend and able to journey through destiny 2 together. I had play Destiny 1 but never did the raids or any activities since my own life was bit rough. I try to join the clans but overwhelmed and also different time zone affecting sleep schedule and now I have to go work and others does too, it very hard to get back in games and able to make friends… but hopefully one day, I will able to make a group of friends. I’ll come back for this comment if I founded a group of friends, not just one, a group that we can understand. I appreciated you for making video likes this, I’m glad I’m not the only one going through.
I'm not exactly a Destiny player, but I've played MMOs before. And from my experience LFGs are generally for when people want to get a job done, like mercenary work. You're kinda expected to know what to do beforehand, unless the LFG specifically says its for practice. I used to have trouble setting up LFGs because i was scared no one would join, but after experimenting with it, it just takes the right setting up. I really suggest if what your looking for is a dedicated group, try to recruit people who want the same things as you. Not necessarily in a clan per say, but in a raid group you all plan together and make time for weekly. For looking for friends though, I highly suggest it be done in a clan or something. You can find people in LFGs that are really cool to be friends with, but those are really rare.
I completely feel this, because I experienced the same kind of stuff, especially when lfg raiding. When people start getting p'd off because we can't even clear the first encounter (Looking at you, Crota), and I'm the last one alive because revive tokens are depleted, I'm kind of hesitant to stay in the group. I've even tried three hours to keep going but in the end, I got tired of all the insults and people yelling at each other, even clanmates. I have a better time running content solo, though that means I can't do raids or other endgame pve content anymore.
LFG is extremely non new player friendly been playing since D1 and even I know LFG is very hit or miss just have to jump around until you find the right group.
I feel you. I don’t know what I’d do without my two mates who got me into the game. I joined in like the last two weeks of Forsaken. They guided me, got me up to speed with things. I’m still going to them for advice and tips even at 2K hours in! But raids always scared me because I didn’t want to speak to randoms. My 3rd Raid was a DSC, and the guys were the coldest and most silent people ever. I didn’t raid for half a year before I finally worked up the confidence to find a Lastwish Sherpa. He was the funniest guy and so were his friends, it made my raid time feel special. Best of all he was also Aussie. I’m in his clan now and we raided every weekend for almost a year. That confidence is why I now have all the raid seals now, only one I’m missing is the Crota one and I’m set to get it by the time new year hits. They have since been busy irl and we’ve not been able to raid but I still do wish to raid a lot. Sadly raid culture these days is just X encounter farm. No one wants challenges, seals, or even to just do a full clear. Even when you do find they’re obsessed with going out of bounds, speedrun starts and it’s so annoying. The barrier to entry does feel high looking back on it, it is endgame PvE after all. But in saying that, the culture is bad. People treat normal raids sometimes like they are master challenge runs. It’s for this reason I hope to be a Sherpa someday. To make other people feel welcome and like raids.
Dude I made a clan if you’d like to join and we can finally do the raids and no longer risk encountering the wack ones www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
Yep as a somewhat solo player since D1 I became a swiss army knife for all the raids. I didn't get gally until 2 months before its nerf. But I learned all the mechanics as a titan. Made me more valuable than a person with a gally. Id be the wierdo inviting people in the tower to me soloing nightfalls for them or taking them through raids, whether your a kid or someone new to the activity. I was the most patient person and stayed to help tell 3 in the morning. Now its reversed for me, but not in a good way. I've been so buisy at work now. Used to look for a group that won't kick me because I don't know any mechanics. So I stopped doing raids or dungeons. Only thing I do are seasonal activities, crucible, strikes, gambit, and solo trials. Never got to do trails of the nine. Only been able to solo 1 dungeon. I've yet to finish all the other dungeons too. D2 made everyone less patient and more nasty over the years too. There is a friend that rarely gets on. But when she does, it's so much more fun with her.
I used to play D1 all the time with my friends from school, we all (like 10 of us) had the game. And the less experienced friends were still able to enjoy themselves while we played. We did everything, raids, trials, nightfalls, etc. Then D2 came around and only 3 of us were left. It was fun for a month or two, but we left the game before we even completed a raid together.
As a kinda shy, predominantly solo player that does LFG a bit, I feel this. The only D1 Raid I ever did was the Y1 version of VoG like, a week before Warmind released because I hadn't bought the D1 DLCs. Then I bought D2 with all the DLCs like, week 2 of Warmind. I've LFG'd so many raids in D2, made a few decent friends, hopped clans like, 5 times. I convinced (read; sorta gaslight?) one of my old buddies from Halo 5 LFG into playing this game years ago and we still play together fairly consistently. He's the only reason I have 90% of my dungeon clears and maybe 3 of the raid clears. I've got the boon of a fairly deep voice so thankfully I've managed to avoid being called a kid and kicked for that, but I'm like, barely older than you are. It's been funny actually when I've been in party chats with people. A funny story I'll share of someone who I raided with a few times iirc guessed my age was at like ~25 when I was only about 18. That was a pretty funny shock to people and everyone got a solid laugh out of it. LFG can suck eggs a fair bit of the time but I've had the boon of making some pretty decent and funny memories out of it. Cheers to Fireteam Finder making the experience a little easier on people. The biggest thing is to remember to have fun and that it's a video game. Also if you make that clan hmu, my current clan is dead in the water because most of the people I played with quit the game and a spot for solos to group up never hurts, as if the reaction to this video didn't make that apparent.
Basically when looking for groups best to join chill or newb friendly when you're doing it for the first time or it's been awhile. Also, I suggest making your own groups including new player or something in the title. I hate taking long on raids most of the time I'm trying to get in and out so I can catch up on something else I need to do. For this reason I don't really touch raids/dungeons I haven't learned within the first month of launch. I don't like wasting other people's time. But there are usually some new guy friendly rooms you just have to search for them.
Respects to you my guy. Ran D2 during Beyond Light. Dropped D2 after Witch Queen cause I wasn't feeling it anymore. Tried to get back into it w/ Lightfall but after that garbage campaign, I stopped playing entirely. Only played it for so long cause I have a whole friend group willing to run all the content together. Idk how ppl can run this game solo cause this is def one of those games where "it's more fun w/ friends" really apply here. Yeah you can say that for any game that has multiplayer/co-op but even with games like Warframe, actual MMO's, Division, or Borderlands can be played by yourself despite the grindy nature of these games. So much of the fun content in D2 is pretty much locked through group play.
Been playing since destiny 1….STILL have never done a raid. i understand how you feel bro. The in game chat and fireteam finder have helped me find groups a TON. Still been kicked a couple times, but I’ve already cleared the new dungeon several times with random groups. Plus, you can make your OWN group and criteria. Just keep at it dude!! The majority of the community is super chill. Hit me up whenever you want to play!
You say you haven't done a raid, have you done one now that fireteam finder exists ? Root of Nightmares is a very very simple raid once you learn the planets encounter and even then, you might find a group that just puts you on ad clear for it.
@@oxsila I have not. I’ve found plenty for the new dungeon, though. It seems like they see my light level and don’t accept my application to join, lol.
I would highly advise never joining and instead hosting your own. I don't see any benefit to joining people. The time to wait for people to join is literal seconds especially if it's the new dungeon@@ashleejones586
I am a solo player since year 1 and played some raids with random people from facebook groups back then. I am just too shy and introverted to play with a larger group of strangers. Dungeons are fine, the mechanics are simple enough and it's just 2 other people
I've been playing the game for almost 2 years and have over 2000 hours in the game, but I still only have 4 raid clears; two on vog with my friends from school, and 2 lfg's on vow and ron. But I've always been nervous about lfgs, and even doing Warlord's with my friend I was nervous getting someone to do final boss with us; but it went fine every time. Yesterday I managed to force myself into a vc in a discord server I'm in and it was great after I calmed down. I think I'll try to lfg something with my friends later. Thanks.
I know how that feels man being a solo player sucks especially knowing I’m capable of doing day 1’s but I’ll never be able to cause I can’t ever get a good group. I also completely understand the anxiety part It legit hurts even thinking about it. But I was even younger then you when d1 came out I was 5-6 and did my first raid in taken king so I was 7 doing raids being made fun of for my voice and username. But I learned to just suffer through it and occasionally meet cool people who respected me even as a Squeaker. And oh god the amount of times I got called a girl…. Traumatized forever by lfg.
To all the people who have liked or commented on this video, first I want to say thank you for watching, I enjoyed reading your guy’s stories. But I want to say I finally created a clan and it’s called, All The Presidents Men.
To give lore the name is from a movie that is becoming one of my favorites and the movie is about two guys who expose the president . And even though I didn’t expose anyone really , i did “expose” the solo side of destiny. And with that if you want to join , then I’ll see you there
www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
Also I’m still editing stuff like the banner and maybe motto but yeah
Well looks like you struck a nerve because there are plenty solo players out there.
I've been playing since beta and in that time made friends and did very few raids.
the main reason for that is I never wanted to have people complain! Raids are too stressful for me. I was able to complete one raid when there was a cheese of have 12 players on. It was the most fun I ever had because even if you fucked up someone else was round to pick up the slack. I wouldn't mind playing with you if you don't mind carrying an old man LOL over 60! send friend request
I understand your pain bro I’m looking for teams that are cool and have a good vibe but for now I’m solo 😕
I've been a solo player since I started playing d2 back in 2019. I have never completed any raid before, though I used LFG for Deep Stone but it was a terrible experience.
Also I tried joining your clan but it keeps giving me an error message
@@sksolar_ oh what, just keep trying or give me your name and I’ll invite you
I have over 1000 hours in this game and i still can feel just how you feel. You are making me want to redownload the game just to play with you my man.
Bro the fireteam finder def helps solo players. I just create my own group and get only chill people. I kick anyone being serious or going hard af... like bro. I wanna have fun not have someone shoving a stick up my ass
There was a kid who joined our D1 raid group during RoI. We were adults who met at the100 for King's Fall a year before. We welcomed him and he did very well. Eventually life brought us to different places, but not before he sent a heartfelt party message, thanking us for all the fun times and moral support. Hearing your story now made me realize that message probably meant much more than I thought then.
I’ve been a solo player for years. But I’m 52 years old and my three sons all quit playing back once D2 first started.
lol, my sons got me into D1 back 9 years ago…. Crazy how much this has changed.
I quit for 3 years and even in that time frame the game changed drastically.
i know this is random but i just wanna thank you for being the kinda dad to play video games with his sons. if i have kids im gonna do all i can for that kind of relationship
I am 58 years old and my sons got me into Destiny. Neither of them play very often and I play every night. It is always solo or in matchmaking. Would love to raid, but no experience in it. Need to get some of these younger players to be patient and show us the ropes. Nice to hear of other older players on here. All the best. I am "Ur Ma" on D2.
5 year-old guardian here, my friends introduced me to Destiny's universe when Forsaken was launched, I've hearded about Destiny 2 before that, but I never wanted to touch it even with a stick, but I gave it an opportunity, it was all fun until Season of the Opulence came to us, all my friends left the game and they never returned, then I shared activities during the next couple of years with a lot of clans, making friends around the globe and now, I'm the leader of my own clan (we're spanish talkers btw), it's crazy to think how my original fireteam left and how i gained up a more experienced fireteam, so much things has changed since 2018.
@freddymel I'm with you. I know this is really late I'm 45, Played D1 and have been playing D2 solo since Forsaken. Even after viewing guide videos on a lot of missions and raids, its still very intimidating but I would like to do exotic missions with a group I agree we need to find and Old Man clan LOL
Hey props to you for putting your perspective out there. I've been playing solo for most of D2 and I can definitely relate with some of the points you had! I find it odd that some players have a 'god complex' just because they have this or that when in reality we all start out somewhere. Great video 👍
i always prefer joining teaching runs because thats where you can meet people that actually know how to laugh and tell jokes
welcome to Destiny 2
I've been playing solo ever since Light fall came out. I was the only person in my clan who would log on and do activities, but now i feel kinda lonely. But I'm not fond of meeting other Guardians sometimes because some can a bit too...extreme. Like, they take this game seriously while i just want to hang out with someone. I'm thinking about using the fireteam finder feature. I just hope my crippling anxiety doesn't get the best of me.
That feel when you constantly refresh the finder looking for a friendly post teaching, only to have your anxiety hit you like a truck. Then it fills up.
online interaction in general is hard i never played with other people in destiny because im afreid to fail because i am new to destiny i never did a raid i dont know any builds and i just use the weapons i fill comfortable with i see people solo raids and i am like how thes someone gets to this point and them i think to my self i probably need people to do raids to get good gear and them i can solo raids and because of that i only play pvp gambit and dares
Agreed, I love destiny and I have like two friends I play with on a semi-weekly basis. I've had a lot of bad experiences with the game especially just people being angry and yelling at me for not being good enough at the game. I usually play gambit and do the story missions. It's a lonely road but honestly it makes me not as anxious as playing because my account had to be remade because the platform I played on died 😅
I've tried raiding again, but with how long I've been gone for and how different everything is since I've left just makes me feel better playing alone. I'm usually a very upbeat person for raids and everything but genuinely after everything I've encountered with the community it's just put me into a place where I feel uncomfortable with playing with large groups.
You know what man , people like you will be the best people to teach and guide other solo players who wants to do raids / dungeons but don’t have friends who play the game or just nervous to try , because you clearly understand and sympathise with them ! You also said something very important when u were doing the VOG raid - you said the group was serious and not talking and having fun … and that made me tear up tbh , you know why ? Because people like you and me who just wanna have FUN are rare in a LFG
so go ahead and start your clan my guy .. people like you are what every game needs .
Im not sure how this popped up for me, but this was great to listen to. I hope your clan goes well. Your attitude and drive to make this game and experience for others better is what makes you great.
I always loved teaching one or two people new positions in raids when my group got good at them because imparting more knowledge and making people more versatile meant they'd get kicked less in their next group hopefully. Just a thought as you get better ;)
Much love Angel 🧡
Dude. You are narrating my mind in this vid.
All the feels you mentioned. I've been there. Felt that.
bungies addition with fireteam finder is actually a pretty good step towards helping solo players. also for people getting heated over encounters, dont care about them, they usually dont have people to play with
I learned that Destiny is best played with at least one to two people you already know. I used to play with my brother and he introduced me to a lot of good people back in D1. But when d2 came out everyone left. I got back into the game with my coworkers, I’m cool if you ever need someone to play with. Im trying to get back into raiding
Low-key this hurts my heart. I try teaching/playing with as many new/baby lights as possible. Ik it's an extremely toxic game/community for anyone new to the D2 experience(which is heartbreaking) & Ik I'm patient enough to help those seeking guidance in game. I'd just rather be the reason more "lil lights" choose to continue playing Destiny, not give them a reason to give up on it. There are still plenty of players like me here that are willing to put in the time/effort showing blueberries the ins & outs. (Just please don't get dissuaded by the toxic many, because someone like me maybe in your next lobby!)
Definitely agree with you I’m a solo player myself what your saying is one of the main reasons I play solo and just the campaigns that’s why I was mad red war was gone because it’s a great solo story and raids are tough because of too many serious toxic people that need to touch grass 😂 definitely would join the clan
Me too fam. PuNkRaWkR#7183😅 ✋️
I'm just saying, toxic people in raids communities are only about 5% of the people. There are so many fun people, its not gonna be every run though
@@titanmax111 yeah I agree it’s just can get annoying when I get kicked for not having the tractor canon or being a hunter and not a healing warlock like I’m not trying to set the biggest speed run just wanna have fun 😂 but your right I met some really cool people it’s just I’m getting really unlucky recently
If you’d like to join
www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
In my experience, a majority of the toxic raiders come from Discord LFG. Avoid that like the plague and you really shouldn't come across too many toxic people@@titanmax111
4:36 I feel you Angel, I remember the days you can join up a session like its more of a social game, now with D2 where Bungie is focused on their "core" desired player base which would lean towards challenging content like GMNF with tough Champions or Trials, on top of the mentality to get the most meta build. It doesn't leave a lot for us solo or on/off again casual players to get a sense of enjoyment of just playing the game and meet other like minded folks to foster a great fireteam and slowly work towards the Raids and Endgame.
I can absolutely relate, I’ve wanted to start getting into raids as well but it’s so hard to find people that will take the time to teach me what to do
I’d watch some videos on how to do it just so you have a rough idea but I agree people need to be more patient
If you’d like to join the clan
www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
This is what I like about fireteam finder, solo players like myself can finally do stuff and most the people I've played with were really nice and helpful and some people I've played with were the funniest guys I've met
Man. In D1 I used to raid all the time while I played and would teach people and have no problem carrying. Now in D2 my raid group moved on and I've been mainly a solo player and it's been super rough. I think I've done maybe two whole raids in their entirety while having maybe 10+ total attempts to even try to do raids. That experience you have where you ask questions and it's like talking to a rock is all too common. It's even worse with the amount of people who are willing to teach but definitely don't have the patience to do so. I've never been kicked or dumped on by other players in LFG groups but I've seen it in too many attempts and been in too many LFG raid groups with a revolving door cast of people coming in and out. I've basically given up on raiding and just do solo dungeon content when I want a decent and fun challenge.
I feel this man I've been slowly chipping away at all the raids and still can't get a Kings fall run because every time I join nobody will tell me what's going on watching videos doesn't help you with experience of map awareness
When you say no one will tell you what's going on, are you hosting a run specificially for learning or are you joining a normal run expecting people to teach you ?
Remember in normal runs, people don't have all the time in the world. You can't expect everyone to just help you. Some people will help you and that's great but you shouldn't expect it unless you do a run specificially for learning. Sherpa runs you know.
@@oxsila people might not have all the time in the world, but being part of the team that just boots the unknowing instead of teaching them only contributes to the problem and circles it right back to your feet. I argue with a buddy of mine about this all the time, it shouldn't be on the newbies to know what everything means or how to do it, we are a community for a reason, behave like it.
Secondly, anyone walking into high end content expecting it to go fast or perfect is fucking delusional. Its content designed to be long, hard, and challenging, not burnt through and steamrolled. If you're unwilling to take the time to teach, because you dont have the time, that's on you for not making the time for trying to do something time consuming. Its not on the new players to be perfect, its on us existing players to just be decent human being and be willing to give someone a chance. Again: if you boot someone instead of teaching them, youre not solving the issue. Youre pushing it onto someone else for someone else to bitch about and then it eventually comes back to you again for you to bitch about. People with the "not my problem you shouldve known" mentality are the exact thing this video is calling out, its toxic, scummy, degenerative and beyond ignorant. Im sick of this playerbase ignoring everything beyond 5 feet in front of them and slapping "not my problem" or "cry harder" or any iteration of the blanket ignorant response as a legitimate argument when its just you people refusing to be more open minded.
If youd like to join the clan , also I gotta do kings das too dude , we can do it together
www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
I played solo for a little bit, but LFG is pretty awful. People don't really care about you, and over time that encourages you to not care about people in a vicious cycle. When I wasn't in a clan, I was actively looking and trying them out til I would find one that vibed with me.
EDIT: To be clear, trying out clans is also pretty rough mentally, but once you find one, its game-changing over the long term.
This is why I'm a solo player. I dont want to deal with the BS when I am just there to have fun and play. It's rare to find someone like that.
I’ve been playing the game for years and well I just don’t do raids anymore because you either get groups that fall apart or you just get yelled at for anything
I love this video bro, also I love how you really enjoy teaching to others about some of the raids.
Gun Metal Elite is chill and full of jokers. We are recruiting.
I’m the soloiest of solo players, don’t have friends and don’t look to make em so pretty much everything that requires a team I join an LFG for, there’s bad ones and there’s good ones.
Lfg is the best thing and the worst thing. I have met some great people on lfg, but yeah, you never know what you are getting into. The later into the season the more you get serious groups that know how to do everything better than you and would tell you what to do in the least nice way possible. It is soooo hard to find people to just have fun with. I feel you on this. Pay them no mind though, there are still good people out there. Keep at it and you will find them. Good luck, guardian
Never related so much to a video especially back in D1 days i was also a squeaker and was hella nervous to even talk
Best thing to do is find a group of five people and get to know them really well and it’s fun. Because you’ll all be in sync with each other and it’s just so much fun. That’s the reason I enjoy playing the game. I don’t think any other fps is as good as Destiny because of it.
Bro, I have been playing Destiny since the absolute beginning, players have always been competitive but I remember most of our D1 players were also more chilled and more team oriented and a lot more forgiving. The player group, in general, seems to have gotten less forgiving, hyper competitive and less patient. But there are still players, myself included, who will give advice but are patient. Like today, myself and 2 other players I invited thru “Fireteam,” to actually do the final Calus boss on Legendary. Bro you gotta move during that final, everyone initially just stood in areas and got killed, except I kept moving and died very little…we had tons of wipes, each of those guys quit before I did; 2-3 hours later, after my 3rd group quit, I called it a day. Persistence wins a lot of hard stuff in Destiny2, we did a lot more grinding in D1, and I think it made us way more patient and way more understanding. Now a lot of folks have cheeses and builds, which is cool, but they’re on short fuses and little is shared unless you watch guys like Rick Kackis. But a lot has changed, glad you’re teaching and that’s the way to go, always friend players who hang with you, even if a few stick, that’s better than zero.
Making friends is harder in Destiny than real life is the most real shit I've heard. I still struggle trying to raid and we are at the Final Shape. Feels bad man.
That seems like an issue you have, if you can’t make friends with people you probably will never see face to face or even just have a conversation with someone online or in person that’s something you need to get over
I feel you there, people go on and on about how you can use lfg to just do anything and theres no reason not to, but like, the majority of my lfg experiences have been negative to the point where i genuinely dont like raiding anymore. Any time someone asks me to do a raid, i feel bad because i want to help them with the raid or play with a friend, but i get this inexplicable feeling of anxiety or something that made me not want to do anything.
Even when its my friends, people i get along with really well, i still hate doing raids, which sucks because i really want some of the raid weapons. Then i end up forcing myself to raid with them and i end up hating it more, and its all because of lfg. Everyone says "lfg isnt bad and the bad teams are a small portion of the playerbase" but the fact of the matter is that most of the times i played it, i've had bad experiences
Omg i feel so seen. I never want to raid again not because i dislike the concept of it but because doing them literally makes me physically ill. I get cold sweats, i'm shivering, my heart is pounding and shit, I cant handle it. Even when i joined a sherpa and performed great i STILL couldn't shake the feeling so i just decided that they aren't for me. I know im missing out on the best content in the game, but if it comes at the cost of my mental health? Imma have to pass.
Bro, I haven't heard anybody talk about rifle gaming in years. The breaking the door down intro cracked me up every time
When you listed off the youtubers you watched that really took me back to 2014 lol
I've been playing since luanch, and till this day, I've never done a single raid. The only raid exotic I have is anarchy, and that only cus of the spoils glitch during beyond light, then it got patched.
bro this video represents me so much that it's sad...
Hey man even at 6415 hrs on steam I still feel like that going into the new raids. Destiny is better with friends. I love the idea of helping teach and learning with the clan to get all those cool titles locked behind completing things with clan mates lol I felt the honesty in this one and that’s something we all need. Nice vid angel imma keep my eye out for the clan 👍🏼
If you’d like to join
www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
I can relate to this bro! I've only done VOG on D2 as I've found the LFGs not helpful and again the requirements are always asking how many clears you have or they say they're chilled but they don't have patience (I'm good but not great). It's a shame because I feel like find people to have patience and have a laugh with. I guess...social anxiety kicks in for me.
SOLO PLAYERS UNITE!!!!!!!
yea thats why i dont raid anymore. i used to raid alot back in the day but now its like now that im not caught up on all the new raiding tricks and techs people dont be wanting to raid wit me and its lowkey annoying but the new lfg finder in game is giving me some hope since it helped me clear my first last wish raid after a year or so of taking a break from destiny
Hi, great vid. I'm a solo player. In my late 40's and have quite a bad stutter, so I I have learned to do the solo stuff in any MMO I play. My youngest son is off to college, and I started playing D2 with him (his go to game) so we had some time before he leaves.
Yeah, you're not alone man. The whole vibe of the LFG is probably one of the factors of why I just stopped playing all together after my friends left
Chances are that raid group was a little older, and had been playing together for a while. When you join a group please make sure the post says something like "chill" "welcome all" they tend to be more open to communicate with Randoms.
People have been getting removed from, or leaving clans recently. I myself have culled non active guardians, and my clan mates always invite new lights. Play with us sometime. We're a group of all kinds of age groups and demographics.
I'm being very sincere about joining some games with us. Let me know if I can invite you on a dungeon or raid.
Our clan moto is " Never take away someone's hope, it may be the only thing they have left."
hey is this invite open to all? if so what is your bungie id my ign is Hardunkichud
@@FireFlyMaxx
I feel the same way man, I used to raid all the time. After my friends stopped playing, I had to go through LFG. And I had a couple good runs with random people, but most were horrible. Most people were bitter or short tempered if you didn't know the secret strategy they do. There are just too many unpatient people that make this community look unwelcoming.
My first ever vog completion was joining in a clan run that i never interacted with previously. No mic,and i barely knew what to do.i was shaking so bad and froze when it came to shooting those red boxes(oracles? I forget). But then they yelled my name and i snapped back. We two phased and i got vex. Super memorable for me. It also was the starting point of me trying to do endgame activities. I wonder what that clan is doing now. I don't think id be playing today still without them.
This is so relatable.
I am also a solo player now but I used to be part of a very active group. We used to grind endgame content on the regular and up until Witch Queen, I had every exotic. That being the case, it feels kind of unfair now to be treated like a “new light” because I don’t have all of the new meta stuff.
One thing that I have noticed is how build customizability has vastly improved over the years but, ironically, build creativity is being squashed by the community. What I mean by that is; when you join a group for a raid or any end game content, they want you to use exactly what the streamers have labeled “meta.” These sort of min-maxed, glass cannon, DPS speedrunner builds.
Even though builds can be so much more diverse and interesting and effective in different ways, people will straight up kick you if you try to use some unique build or weapon combination. I run Sixth Coyote, Void Hunter in Trials and all the time, people call it a “meme build” or try to micromanage my build or play style. The thing is, being able to play and succeed, any way you want, is what Bungie wanted. The DPS and stat numbers don’t always reflect effectiveness because different people are good with different weapons and play styles.
Furthermore, I think that one of the most toxic additions to the game was Raid Report / Trials Report. It allows players to just filter out middling and low ranked players in favor of higher KDA or raid clears which means that good players always group up with good players and the less skilled players are forced to settle with lower skilled teammates which often results in match losses or more deaths and, by extension, a further decreasing rank on these sites. This dynamic is responsible for further widening the gap between top players and average players.
I have like 3500 hours in d2 and have played most of it solo, it's rough and the community can be a bit toxic towards new players. Hopefully things will get better in the future, I also stopped playing destiny after witch queen bcs I feel like the corporate side of bungie is killing the stuff I fell in love with.
As a solo player, in lfg groups we just wanna get the raid done cause we already know this gonna take a few hours. So may as well lock in at the beginning😭
I agree so much with you, I was a solo player and trying to get people to play the game was hard, they really wanted you to knew all the things and if you said that you didn't know or that you wanted to learn they would kick you out in no time. I also learned that the best times to try and get a group to play with is when there is a new raid or dungeon so you can go to lfg servers and start playing with other people till you find someone you enjoyed playing with and add them, I met a lot of people this way and my actual raid/squad group. Also nice video :D
Bless your heart. Hang in there dawg. I feel your pain. Its crazy how our early bad experiences always stick and change the way we do things as we get older.
100% feel your experience. Learning a raid with a team is probably the most fun you can have in destiny. Never understood why there wasnt any matchmaking for raids. Nobody has 6 ppl available for a raid 24/7
I did absolutely everything in Destiny 1 (exceptget to the lighthouse). Played the heck out of Destiny 2, but my whole friend group disappeared, so I've never done raids or even dungeons. Recently some other friends have gotten into it, but they're not very good at the game. And neither am I anymore; I had a stroke 4 years ago, so my reaction times are garbage now. The game is rough, but I still manage to have fun.
Thank you for sharing your experiences and thoughts. I love how TH-cam is recommending smaller creators to me now. Keep it up!
This video made me burst into tears. It's so relatable...
I remember using my phone hotspot back in dark below to grind crucible. Man I miss the planet destiny days
This was beautiful and brought tears to my eyes! I've had a lot of the same expierences during parts of D2.
You brought me back to Destiny's Golden Era when you brought up Planet Destiny and many other awesome "Old School" Destiny content creators. I hope you do create a clan and it's filled with people who are friendly, understanding, patient and really enjoy the game and learning/teaching it alongside others! Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays, from a new sub😁
If you’re a new player to Destiny 2 and are only interested in the campaign here are a few things to understand.
You start the game off fairly powerful. The reasoning for this is for you to be able to jump in with your friends and play together online, but if you’re only interested in the campaign its to your benefit because you don’t have to grind so hard to enjoy the story.
The Timeline is just a recap of the entire story up to The Final Shape. Some recaps are cinematic, some you have to read, and some are playable quests. As a new player you’ll want to play these quests to get the reward at the end.
Bungie now offers Shadowkeep and Beyond Light campaigns for free. Only the campaigns. To get the extra goodies that come with these respected dlc’s you’ll have to purchase their packs. again if you just want to play the campaigns don’t worry about it for now.
New Light not to be mistaken for Beyond Light, NEW LIGHT is an introduction to game and its mechanics. I recommend playing through it for as long as you can tolerate it and than start Shadowkeep. The first 3 dlc’s released are no longer available to download or purchase Bungie vaulted them so Shadow Keep is where the playable story campaign begins.
To start Shadowkeep you have to go to the Moon and click on the blue banner that will get you started.
Lastly, I just want to stress not to over think it. It a MMO and if you never played a game like this than it can be overwhelming. MMO don’t play like a traditional video game I.e God of War. You’re going to see other players on the map hopping around doing their own quests or even the same one you’re doing. Just ignore it and have fun. By the time you’ve finished the two dlc campaigns I guarantee you’ll have a better understanding of the game and its mechanics.
I only decided to play raids as a solo player during lightfall because I was too scared of messing up and getting kicked but I searched in a discord lfg for sherpa runs so that it's expected that you don't know the raid mechanics. Thats the only way I played through all the raids to get the guardian ranks thing. Even now when I use lfg I only join groups that have something like "chill" in the post.
Been a solo player with the same clan since D1. Bros reppin those og youtubers like a true 10 year roster. Including the fallen ones
I felt that, raiding is so hard, especially when trying to keep up while learning, Deep stone is probably my favorite of the ones I've beat, and I have a nice legendary scout rifle to show for it, but no exotics, the craziest thing I've gotten to do is climb my way all the way to Nezerac in Root of nightmares on contest, might've been the easiest raid, but I went through so much headache at the end trying to beat Nezerac, the amount of LFG groups that came and went, never beat the guy, but I can definitely say I did well
As a warlock, I also dislike the "well of radiance meta", there are so many strong builds out there, I was one of the few who cheered a little when starfire fell from grace, it was great, but it was a curse, I have a build for every subclass on Warlock, but there's always the day when you'll hear "hey can you run well"
Born to Nova, Forced to Well
I been a solo from the start of forsaken. Im a heavily motivated player when it comes to challenges. And the feeling to keep going knowing i can do it is amazing when you actually complete it. And i solo flawless prophecy, grasp, warlord, pits of heresy, and now gonna try ghost of the deep and shatter throne. But still i miss doing raids and actually down to do new ones that i haven’t done before. I didn’t even join a lfg at all. Im to nervous to do it with random cause im scared to disappoint or annoy them. I could go on but you get the idea. So i kinda understand that feeling but praise to you for even joining randoms I wouldn’t do that at all
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to london I mean destiny 2 take good care of her mate and enjoy your stay love
I'm glad you put yourself out there and tried your luck with LFG. Like you said, the game is at its best when you play it with other people. You sometimes run into some less-than-pleasant people. But eventually you find the chill people that you can vibe with for hours.
Dude, this is exactly how i feel about trying to find groups to do anything. In D1 I tries LFGs and my experience was just so terrible that i stopped and just played pvp. Even now I have a clan, but those guys, while awesome, no life the game get everything then bounce to other games till the next expansion. Since i cant play as often i end up left out of a lot of stuff after they leave. And the new in game lfg is just trash. Its all must have this and that with 30+ completions. Its just nice to hear others have a similar experience and feel as awkward as i do about talking to new people. Stay cool bro.
Good on you for talking about it because it can feel super awkward.
In my experience that sort of cold response like you had from those guys who wouldn’t talk to you much might be from guys who are lacking in personal confidence so they feel like they always have to act “cool” rather than just talk openly and honestly.
You’re nervous but you’re prepared to show that and ask advice.
But guys like these feel like they either have to act like they know everything or talk smack.
The only guy I knew personally who acted like that had a Dad who treated him very badly so it could even be something like that.
Whatever the reason it’s pretty sad.
Anyway I also firmly believe that no one who’s at least somewhat happy and trying to learn and have fun is ever going to treat anyone like that.
TL/DR It’s definitely not you, it’s definitely them. Which is pretty much what you said anyway😁
You in the tower asking for a trial teammates just remind me of asking people in Warframe trading for hydroid prime parts just walking up to people and typing “Hydroid Prime Chassis?” The one that stuck with me is the guy basically said “does it look like I have it for sale?” Like I was bothering him asking for it in the first place in the end I got what I wanted but that one interaction demoralised me for the whole day
Angel you have learnt that there are people who are walkin round with there heads up there arse . It's good to see they haven't killed your spirit .
You're right raiding is supposed to be fun .you have the right to ask questions without being bullied . Nuff luv lad 😊
man this is just wow almost feelin relatable, i hope with the new ingame lfg you can join in and do back to back raid
i just dont raid anymore, only done a handful like, i never have the friends to do it and i never trust LFG people so its just one of those where i just go without
Little humblebrag, but what you described at the start of VoG is what my group tries to stay away from when we pick up LFGs.
We are a group of 4, so we often have to find our last 2 people via LFG. We usually invite them to discord if they have it, or we all join in-game VC to be able to talk to them. We don't let up on the name-calling and the joke making, and we try to include them right from the start.
We all were lone LFGs at one point and we know how awkward and how daunting it can be to join a "tense" group, so we pretty much immediately set the vibes of "here to have fun first".
Also, I wholly relate to the teaching thing you brought up. I recently have been joining LFGs that say "need help" or something like that, and it has been super rewarding.
This was a great video to listen to. As someone who plays solo during the week, I totally get what you mean by "Destiny is peak when playing with other people".
If you ever wanna do anything, just shoot me a message. I'm always down to game with people are interested in having a good time.
I have been around for seven decades, and been playing destiny solo for almost one. I have never done a raid or a dungeon. I dont play crucible or pvp either. I feel like I am one of the worst players in the game. I feel a lot like everyone else. I try to be helpful when I play missions with other players. Played with my kids a few times but they are not destiny fans. So I just play what I can complete and have fun. Its just a game. Great video. Good luck.
Yeah the majority of lfg groups are trash with communication and are toxic. I was a solo player for the longest time and rarely did raids because it’s so anxiety inducing when playing joining from lfg. and just finally found a cool chill clan and have done raids pretty often now.
I solo'd most of the time too. i have a buddy that do some GM together, like duo, and some raids encounter duo but we can't really do whole raid because our skill wasnt that godly. We manage to convince friends of friends to try out D2, and guide them to do raids. We go really slow, like 1 ecounter per day and hope to clear the raid in a week. it goes really well until IRL pulls them the other way. I still do GMs on and off in d2, but really finding a decent human for a consistent raid party or game is so hard. I just created a clan though but my problem with most is probably play time, because its gmt+8, and we usually play like kinda late >11pm
100 percent would join the clan, should make a discord too
That D1 warlock armor looks so clean. Nowadays everything is a dress
This perfectly explains how I felt with raids in D2, always heard stories of people getting kicked due to the problems you've faced, so that alone has always turned me off. Stopped playing around this years Halloween and it's been in my mind since, but since I define myself as a Solo Player, there's not much for me to do other than Strikes or Crucible. Always wanted to do raids, but too nervous to chatter.
I’ve been playing mostly solo for years now, I’ve done everything from normal dungeons and raids to flawless raids and master challenges and day one completions all through lfg and I’ve had a couple bad experiences but overall most people are great, its shit that you and some others have the majority of their experience be bad, I’ll be happy to teach and help you but I’m literally in the same boat, I got diagnosed with social anxiety when I was 9 so I got very nervous about doing raids and talking to people even to this day with me being a very confident and competent player with knowing more than most d2 TH-camr about the game and I started playing destiny one when I was 8 and just about to go to university (college) as well, it takes time and just not letting some negative assholes ruin your fun it’s a big problem that bungie can’t really fix that’s why me and others in the clan that are experienced try to take other clanmates through dungeons and raids, they use some of the worst load outs and weapons I’ve ever seen but we make it work and I try to guide them, I’m lucky in a way because of my skill and knowledge I can hold peoples weight and push them without burdening them but people who can do that either have to big of an ego or cant be bothered teaching others at all which is sad
Totally resonated with you man, played d1 as a kid as well and never completed a single raid because I was too scared to join randoms, I specifically remember grinding archons forge on days end 😭
I haven't seen RifleGaming in a loooong time but I can still hear that picture vividly
Man I feel the tf out of this, if you ever wanna play sometime just ask
The intro song had me dying. Perfect choice for any destiny player in this current stage
Oh you know the song , you’re goated for knowing
to be really honest, I had similar situation when it comes to the raids (sometime dungeon for flawless triumph), even though I just wanted to make a new friend and able to journey through destiny 2 together. I had play Destiny 1 but never did the raids or any activities since my own life was bit rough. I try to join the clans but overwhelmed and also different time zone affecting sleep schedule and now I have to go work and others does too, it very hard to get back in games and able to make friends… but hopefully one day, I will able to make a group of friends. I’ll come back for this comment if I founded a group of friends, not just one, a group that we can understand. I appreciated you for making video likes this, I’m glad I’m not the only one going through.
I'm not exactly a Destiny player, but I've played MMOs before. And from my experience LFGs are generally for when people want to get a job done, like mercenary work. You're kinda expected to know what to do beforehand, unless the LFG specifically says its for practice.
I used to have trouble setting up LFGs because i was scared no one would join, but after experimenting with it, it just takes the right setting up.
I really suggest if what your looking for is a dedicated group, try to recruit people who want the same things as you. Not necessarily in a clan per say, but in a raid group you all plan together and make time for weekly.
For looking for friends though, I highly suggest it be done in a clan or something. You can find people in LFGs that are really cool to be friends with, but those are really rare.
I completely feel this, because I experienced the same kind of stuff, especially when lfg raiding. When people start getting p'd off because we can't even clear the first encounter (Looking at you, Crota), and I'm the last one alive because revive tokens are depleted, I'm kind of hesitant to stay in the group. I've even tried three hours to keep going but in the end, I got tired of all the insults and people yelling at each other, even clanmates. I have a better time running content solo, though that means I can't do raids or other endgame pve content anymore.
If you’d like to join the clan so that we can finally do those group made activities you’re welcome to join
www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
I ran a clan from D1 - D2 witch queen season 3. Retired now with no intentions to return.
LFG is extremely non new player friendly been playing since D1 and even I know LFG is very hit or miss just have to jump around until you find the right group.
Welcome to Destiny 2. I subbed, brother. Hope to see you starside.
I feel you. I don’t know what I’d do without my two mates who got me into the game. I joined in like the last two weeks of Forsaken. They guided me, got me up to speed with things. I’m still going to them for advice and tips even at 2K hours in! But raids always scared me because I didn’t want to speak to randoms. My 3rd Raid was a DSC, and the guys were the coldest and most silent people ever. I didn’t raid for half a year before I finally worked up the confidence to find a Lastwish Sherpa. He was the funniest guy and so were his friends, it made my raid time feel special. Best of all he was also Aussie. I’m in his clan now and we raided every weekend for almost a year. That confidence is why I now have all the raid seals now, only one I’m missing is the Crota one and I’m set to get it by the time new year hits. They have since been busy irl and we’ve not been able to raid but I still do wish to raid a lot. Sadly raid culture these days is just X encounter farm. No one wants challenges, seals, or even to just do a full clear. Even when you do find they’re obsessed with going out of bounds, speedrun starts and it’s so annoying. The barrier to entry does feel high looking back on it, it is endgame PvE after all. But in saying that, the culture is bad. People treat normal raids sometimes like they are master challenge runs. It’s for this reason I hope to be a Sherpa someday. To make other people feel welcome and like raids.
Dude I made a clan if you’d like to join and we can finally do the raids and no longer risk encountering the wack ones
www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
Yep as a somewhat solo player since D1 I became a swiss army knife for all the raids. I didn't get gally until 2 months before its nerf. But I learned all the mechanics as a titan. Made me more valuable than a person with a gally. Id be the wierdo inviting people in the tower to me soloing nightfalls for them or taking them through raids, whether your a kid or someone new to the activity. I was the most patient person and stayed to help tell 3 in the morning. Now its reversed for me, but not in a good way. I've been so buisy at work now. Used to look for a group that won't kick me because I don't know any mechanics. So I stopped doing raids or dungeons. Only thing I do are seasonal activities, crucible, strikes, gambit, and solo trials. Never got to do trails of the nine. Only been able to solo 1 dungeon. I've yet to finish all the other dungeons too. D2 made everyone less patient and more nasty over the years too. There is a friend that rarely gets on. But when she does, it's so much more fun with her.
I used to play D1 all the time with my friends from school, we all (like 10 of us) had the game. And the less experienced friends were still able to enjoy themselves while we played. We did everything, raids, trials, nightfalls, etc. Then D2 came around and only 3 of us were left. It was fun for a month or two, but we left the game before we even completed a raid together.
Im also a solo player, sometimes I like it better that way, but soon you'll find a few guys who think and play the same as you. Don't give up!
Hey dude, I don't mind sherpa'ing you through different raids
As a kinda shy, predominantly solo player that does LFG a bit, I feel this. The only D1 Raid I ever did was the Y1 version of VoG like, a week before Warmind released because I hadn't bought the D1 DLCs. Then I bought D2 with all the DLCs like, week 2 of Warmind. I've LFG'd so many raids in D2, made a few decent friends, hopped clans like, 5 times. I convinced (read; sorta gaslight?) one of my old buddies from Halo 5 LFG into playing this game years ago and we still play together fairly consistently. He's the only reason I have 90% of my dungeon clears and maybe 3 of the raid clears.
I've got the boon of a fairly deep voice so thankfully I've managed to avoid being called a kid and kicked for that, but I'm like, barely older than you are. It's been funny actually when I've been in party chats with people. A funny story I'll share of someone who I raided with a few times iirc guessed my age was at like ~25 when I was only about 18. That was a pretty funny shock to people and everyone got a solid laugh out of it. LFG can suck eggs a fair bit of the time but I've had the boon of making some pretty decent and funny memories out of it. Cheers to Fireteam Finder making the experience a little easier on people. The biggest thing is to remember to have fun and that it's a video game.
Also if you make that clan hmu, my current clan is dead in the water because most of the people I played with quit the game and a spot for solos to group up never hurts, as if the reaction to this video didn't make that apparent.
If you’d like to join
www.bungie.net/en/ClanV2?groupid=5175061
dawg ran into vog farmers
Basically when looking for groups best to join chill or newb friendly when you're doing it for the first time or it's been awhile. Also, I suggest making your own groups including new player or something in the title. I hate taking long on raids most of the time I'm trying to get in and out so I can catch up on something else I need to do. For this reason I don't really touch raids/dungeons I haven't learned within the first month of launch. I don't like wasting other people's time. But there are usually some new guy friendly rooms you just have to search for them.
Respects to you my guy. Ran D2 during Beyond Light. Dropped D2 after Witch Queen cause I wasn't feeling it anymore. Tried to get back into it w/ Lightfall but after that garbage campaign, I stopped playing entirely. Only played it for so long cause I have a whole friend group willing to run all the content together.
Idk how ppl can run this game solo cause this is def one of those games where "it's more fun w/ friends" really apply here. Yeah you can say that for any game that has multiplayer/co-op but even with games like Warframe, actual MMO's, Division, or Borderlands can be played by yourself despite the grindy nature of these games. So much of the fun content in D2 is pretty much locked through group play.
Been playing since destiny 1….STILL have never done a raid. i understand how you feel bro. The in game chat and fireteam finder have helped me find groups a TON. Still been kicked a couple times, but I’ve already cleared the new dungeon several times with random groups. Plus, you can make your OWN group and criteria. Just keep at it dude!! The majority of the community is super chill. Hit me up whenever you want to play!
major skill issue
@@midirstormcat you’re not wrong. I know I’m not the greatest at the game.
You say you haven't done a raid, have you done one now that fireteam finder exists ? Root of Nightmares is a very very simple raid once you learn the planets encounter and even then, you might find a group that just puts you on ad clear for it.
@@oxsila I have not. I’ve found plenty for the new dungeon, though. It seems like they see my light level and don’t accept my application to join, lol.
I would highly advise never joining and instead hosting your own. I don't see any benefit to joining people. The time to wait for people to join is literal seconds especially if it's the new dungeon@@ashleejones586
God I hate how toxic people can be knowing their basically cyber bullying
I am a solo player since year 1 and played some raids with random people from facebook groups back then. I am just too shy and introverted to play with a larger group of strangers. Dungeons are fine, the mechanics are simple enough and it's just 2 other people
I've been playing the game for almost 2 years and have over 2000 hours in the game, but I still only have 4 raid clears; two on vog with my friends from school, and 2 lfg's on vow and ron.
But I've always been nervous about lfgs, and even doing Warlord's with my friend I was nervous getting someone to do final boss with us; but it went fine every time. Yesterday I managed to force myself into a vc in a discord server I'm in and it was great after I calmed down. I think I'll try to lfg something with my friends later. Thanks.
I know how that feels man being a solo player sucks especially knowing I’m capable of doing day 1’s but I’ll never be able to cause I can’t ever get a good group. I also completely understand the anxiety part It legit hurts even thinking about it.
But I was even younger then you when d1 came out I was 5-6 and did my first raid in taken king so I was 7 doing raids being made fun of for my voice and username. But I learned to just suffer through it and occasionally meet cool people who respected me even as a Squeaker.
And oh god the amount of times I got called a girl…. Traumatized forever by lfg.