Akademia Szermierzy - Fior di Battaglia (medieval longsword techniques)
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This is a story about about medieval master of arms - Fiore dei Liberi and the Art of Armizarre.
An introduction to series of movies about italian medieval longsword techniques.
To jest historia średniowiecznego mistrza walki - Fiore dei Liberi i Sztuki Armizarre.
Wstęp do serii filmów o średniowiecznych technikach walki długim mieczem w tradycji włoskiej.
FENCERS:
Rafał Kalus
Jarek Kokot
Antek Olbrychski
Kuba Sowiński
CAMERA:
Michał Derlacki
Krystian Hoffmann
SCENARIO:
Jarek Kokot
Rafał Kalus
MUSIC:
A Tribe Called Red - "Electric Pow Wow" (Jacob Yoffee Remix)
Medieval Total War Soundtrack: Arab Battle 2
PerKelt - Ai Vist Lo Lop
LOCATION:
Czersk Castle in Poland
(www.zamekczersk.pl)
SCANS OF FIOR DI BATAGLIA (MS Ludwig XV 13):
Thanks to courtesy of J. Paul Getty Museum
organised and presented at Wiktenauer.com by Michael Chidester
ENGLISH TRANSLATION OF FIOR DI BATTAGLIA:
Colin Hatcher
DRON CAMERA:
Weselny Dron
COSTIUMES AND WEAPONS:
SPES Medieval Market,
SPES Historicall Fencing Gear,
Gambeson.pl,
Tinkerswords.com,
Goods.pl
Karolina Suchan-Okulska,
Kajetan Włodarski,
Pracownia odlewnicza,
Mateusz Kosiński
Special thanks to Wilcza Rota Najemna ( / wilczarota )
PRODUCTION STATUS:
Non profit
PRODUCTION SUPPORTED BY:
Crew of Akademia Szermierzy
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Why can't movies have sword fights like this? This video already has a better fight scene than 95% of Hollywood movies.
the fiore disarm at 2:34 is way more classy than the hollywood shit
Lots of fight stunt/choreography shops are scrambling for HEMA consultants and training atm so it will get better.
That's the exception. Usually real techniques are meant to kill an opponent quickly and easily. A final battle between sworn-enemies can be very underwhelming if it lasts for about 20 seconds max.
99%
The only reason a duel ends is because one fencer has exploited an opening to deadly effect, in a movie you could spend as much time as you needed running through actual wards and cuts because the fight is fake. If you put two comparable fencers against each other their match might only last a few seconds before one loses, but if you ask them to fight at half speed suddenly it takes forever because they have time to think.
I used to think that medieval weapons were corny
I now realize that like any other martial art it is strategic, cerebral, elegant.
@This Dude chill dude at least he changed his idea you dont have to roast him
Basic guns are the most boring weapons, change my mind
@Jon Jones gonna be picky about word choice? Ctfo
sarpfırat toprak it’s still funny to poke fun at though lmao. Ignorance is something that should be laughed at if it isn’t harming anybody
@@KCGamingBuddies
I train in both. I swung cold steel in the shadow of Liechtenauer, and launched hot lead on Starlight range, Paris island.
Boring or not, both have their place.
Imagine living in a world where 5 prestigious masters of combat got taken down one by one by some guy named "Flower."
in Italy Fiore is a well used name, actually. I love it!
People would name their kids "flower" it sounds peaceful, if only your kids weren't going around stabbing people in the face with a longsword
@@krieger8825 well... good point 😂
@@thecopper-cockmcdickinson8508 fun fact: Fiore is, in fact, not used at all in Italy
@@pietrozaccherini8837 fun fact: i am italian and in my club we study Fiore. My club is in the city of Castel San Giorgio btw
Wow the fight scene overlayed with old manual drawings is amazing, it gives so much insight!
That disarm though
2:34
What is the name of that technique
Damn, my italian ancestors knew how to do shit
@@punz4lyfe read the flower of battle (by Fiore dei Liberi), that technique is a combination of 4 postures
Nesus christ for real!! Best part of the video!¡
"Where are the best swordsmen?
In the graveyard"
"In cemeteries"
it was in the blood of elves book right ? (Ciri and Coen if i recall it correctly)
I like the double meaning :)
Where is this quote from?
Love From Anjey Sapkovsky "Witcher" cicle
4:13 Brave Sir Robin ran away, bravely ran away, away! When danger reared its ugly head he bravely turned his tail and fled. Yes, brave sir Robin turned about and gallantly he chickened out. Swiftly taking to his feet, he beat a very brave retreat, bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!
They were forced to eat Robin's minstrels... and there was much rejoicing.
@@doigt6590
*waving flags* yay!
Is this monty phyton? Sounds like one
LMAO
Good one!! LOL
3:26 blink and you'll miss the fact that they just switched each other's sword.
Oh my god I didn't see that, thank you for pointing it out
Wow idk
not gonna lie had to slow it down, but entirely true!
@stirange That's how I realized that, I saw he was holding the sword by the blade so I rewind it and saw that cool detail
... this probably contributes to why we don't see such quality stuff in Hollywood. It's so fast, very few people could actually appreciate its depth.
I really liked the simulation of training playing in his head of all the techniques as according to the manual
2:34 that's the best move I've ever seen in my entire life
Adam Yahan that disarm though
Badass move ;P
I could watch that disarm all day.
There was a tournament fight where Arto Fama managed to pull it off in one of the final exchanges, he won
yep
Bro guns are scary but fighting like this is a whole different level of terrifying.
"Zoinks Scoob, like, I'm about to fight Fior!"
Lmfao thank you for this mental image.
Ah man you killed me! :'D
The techinique sequence where Fiore is envisioning the possible outcomes of the fight reminds me very much of the new Sherlock Holmes films when he plans out like 5 moves in his head. Very well done way to showcase the techiniques in Fior di Battaglia.
Discombobulate
Its 100% based off a scene from the Last Samurai.
I am so glad that there are people out there who are making sure that this art does not end up forgotten.
2:34 one of the craziest shows of skill I've ever seen. beautiful
A espada acertou certeiramente as costas dele
Fra.Fiore sleeps soundly in his grave, knowing his arte is alive.
One of the best vids on the internet.
Period.
Medieval period*
oh gosh. :D
you have your period ?
:p
Baptiste Bauer not getting better. ^^
Außerdem ists "youre on your period" glaub ich.
Baptiste Bauer period is like aus/ende in german
4:06 Me swordfighting
*Throws sword like a javelin*
That's not really a bad move since the guy just beat his teachers with ease.
Yeah, I wouldn't get close to that guy.
th-cam.com/video/Cob3JMmtctY/w-d-xo.html
1:00
the archers guard
it can be done
no that shouldn't be right, just unscrew the pomm... ...
im here again, after all this years, this still amaze me
I love how this looks, let alone feels. It's way more exciting knowing that a fight can end in 1 second instead of a minutes long hackfest that leads to nothing. Just get on it Hollywood, you have the budgets to hire people who know their shit. I bet all of these guys would love nothing more than to help getting proper techniques onto the big screen. It can't be that hard.
Sure, if you want a boring fight that ends in 5 seconds. Movies are not about that.
@@dirak418 just look at Darth Maul vs. Obi Wan in rebels. Scene lasts 4 min, fight 3 secs and it is excellent.
@@dirak418 Depends what tipe o film we are talking about. As the good sir stated in one of the comments Obi wan vs Darth Maul on the animated series is one of the best light saber duels because of how much tension is packed in just 5 seconds of actual action. The old samurai movies from Akira Kurosawa(Sorry if i mispeled) does this really well, the time is taken builiding tension and the quick learning of the oponnent. Of course duels not always end in one blow,but they could and that builds extreme tension. Some movies lack that, there is not particular danger on the scene just the awesomenes of the fight. But a fight as is showed on the video and some other media can be thecnical and be awesome at the same time. There are also long fights with oponnents trying to learn their current fighting style to counter atack properly that can be done well, but in my opinion unless your character is super human (a witcher for example) or the oponnent is really less skilled than said character there should be always that lingering fear that a mistake could kill you or cause you a really bad wound.
@@dirak418 Yeah, all those boring cowboy duels, ending on a second, are SOOOOO boring and uninteresting...
Tsk, tsk. Kids today.
As far as I know they do hire them. It's just that the "cinematic style" is always in the way.
Hollywood is too obsessed with oriental sword play. Look at this video - clean powerful moves. Looks very realistic and to be honest, quite frightful. These kids are amazing at what they do.
Greg it does not just look realistic. It is real. These moves are what the western martial arts were all about. There's a lot of amazing martial arts from the west that Hollywood just ignores.
Greg Oriental swordplay doesn't look like duels from second Star Wars trilogy either. I practise kenjutsu and in fact the moves are minimalistic and maximally efficient. Hollywood has no idea what it's doing, in any movie they make.
Dont be too harsh on them, if we had martial artists instead of professional actors in movie cast i bet we would see good swordfighting scenes a lot more.
@@steirqwe7956 there were fencing masters who helped teach and choreograph star wars fights, they
re doing something
not even oriental swordplay is as theatrical as hollywood movies
This is so goddamn badass. You guys not only know how to fight, but how to make a film, how to invest us in the situation, build up and pay off, this is a superb short.
The "snake" at 2:30 was awesome. It's right out of Kali and probably Spanish techniques, which points to the possibility that it's origins are Italian. It's one of my favorite disarming techniques when you fully explore the possibilities. Once again, impressive depiction of classical techniques, bravo!
Spanish word for fencing is esgrima which is barely any different than the word eskrima. Considering the history of Europe it is likely these techniques were in widespread use among all cultures there for hundreds if not thousands of years.
@@catocall7323 remember, both Spanish and Italian are Romance Languages
Any language in Europe prob has some Latin -ISH stuff in it
3:41 actually one of the best fencers in the world (1 silver and 1 bronze at swordfish 2018)
sharpened the tip just to dull it in the dirt. He deserved death
Dirt isn't as hard as you think.
It will dull the tip unnecessarily though. And it's a pain in the ass to resharpen the tip, plus you want that sword as sharp as possible if you're about to duel.
PenStyleProductions Matt Easton made a video on it, stabbing your sword into the ground is a really stupid idea...but this guy was a stupid dead man so I feel like they had him do that deliberately.
Nico Beaton little stones in ground are
You missed the point. The first exchange resulted in the man in black getting struck across the chest with the tip, which failed to cut. The fight should have been over then. Since you're primarily using the top third of the sword for cutting, dulling the edges of the tip in the dirt was dumb and it cost him his life.
Cool to hear a Tribe Called Red, thought they weren't as popular.
4:12 my go-to swordfighting technique
I'll be honest. If more movies had fights like this where they can end so suddenly. Itd be great! As long as they do the build up properly like you guys did!
Brilliant. Connecting the manuals to the rest of the kata or form is genius. It should help modern folk understand more and see beyond Hollywood. Thank you!
As a fencing fanatic, I'm absolutely in love with your videos, great skills my friends, European swordsmanship at its finest!
I love the flashes of the manual pages. It really helps contextualise how the moves work.
the choreography is incredible. huge props to the cinematography as well!
In many ways I feel like Fiore is like a Italian Musashi...or more accurately Musashi is like a Japanese Fiore. Both of their works are steeped in pragmatism and deadly simplicity. I haven't finished reading all of Fior di Battalia, but from what I have read there are a lot of parallels that could be drawn. The funny thing is, despite many Traditionalist Koryu attempting to flaunt their superiority over HEMA practioners using Musashi and the Book of Five Rings as an example, I don't think really get what Musashi was trying to say. If anything, if Musashi were alive today, I feel like he would praise the HEMA practioners for staying practical and using what interpretations work without being mired in tradition while scornfully critiquing many Iaido and modern traditional schools for being so stagnated and dilluted from their original purpose that they've lost their effectiveness.
Huh. What about Joachim Meyer or better yet Johannes Liechtenauer?
Speaking as someone who is training in Liechtenauer Longsword and not Fiore, you're not quite understanding my meaning. I would not personally compare Liechtenauer's work to Musashi, not because Liechtenauer is not more or less skilled than Musashi...like I said, Liechtenaur is the main system I'm studying.The reason why I would compare Musashi with Fiore is because the massive amounts of similarities between Book of Fives and the Flower of Battle(Which I have finished in it's entirety), their lives and their general outlook on Martial Arts.
*Both Masters were aged patrons of wealthy feudal lords by the end of their lives who had been in multiple life or death unarmored duels, both emphasize pragmatism in their works (It shouldn't matter what you're holding, you should still be able to defeat your opponent) and relatively simple but effective non-complicated movements and a "touch upon all arts" mentality . The language they use in their works is very similar(In fact the introductions are extremely similar) and they present their thoughts in a frank relatively easy to understand way. They both put an emphasis on training the skills they teach to be useful in any situation.*
Johannes Liechtenauer and his" Zettal" is completely different to Musashi, I would more compare Johannes Liechtenauer to Yagyu Munenori and his "Lifegiving Sword". We barely know anything about Liechtenauer's life save what's written in the Codex Dobringer(Not the actual name but I'm using the nickname for simplicity). The Zettal is written in completely in code and the only reason we really know remotely what Johannes Liechtenauer was intending was from glosses by his students and later works. Munenori's book is very similar, it's not written as a poem, but it's written in a intentionally obtuse, cryptic and metaphorical way so that almost anyone but a student of the Yagyu Shinkage Ryu would be able to understand any of it.
I would say Meyer isn't really part of this conversation, at least his Longsword stuff, because while the Art of Combat is definitely more understandable at a glance than the Recital, it's made pretty clear that his Longsword section, while it does have value, is more focused on sport Longsword with the "apparent" absence of thrusts and hitting with the flat and using federschwerts...because the Longsword had relatively fallen out of prominent use by that point and was kept around primarily as a weapon in fencing schools.
My comment wasn't a diss against Liechtenauer or Meyer, assuming because I compared Musashi to Fiore that I was forgetting and or implying either of those two German Masters were less than Fiore is silly.
I notice there's like this dick waving competition between Italian Longsworders and German Longsworders and it's fucking stupid. Neither is the absolute better system in every situation, both have advantages and disadvantages depending upon the type of opponent, the context and the situation and environment. I've seen people who study Fiore destroy German Longsworders and I've seen the reverse. Neither is better, they may be better than the other at certain things or in certain situations and contexts(I'm starting to turn into Matt Easton, I should go shave me head now, marry a girl named Lucy and buy a fuck ton of swords...especially sabres) than the other is, however they are both equally valid. They are both equally valid ways of killing your opponent and surviving with a sword.
I have little idea what you're talking about! I was just wondering what Japanese historical figures you personally would compare them to. That's it!
Redman A As a member of Musashi's school I'd agree. The HNIR long word techniques are simply solid fundamentals. Nothing fancy. It's basically getting off the line and countering. You see the Peasant's Strike, a crossing near the tips, a couple of half-swording techniques, moving off the line and thrusting, etc. There's a lot less blade contact overall though. The closing to Stretto is shown in the short sword techniques. I'd say the HNIR footwork is much closer to the German school, particularly Leckuchner. There's no Volta Stabile (well, maybe one depending on how loose your definitions are), but a lot of offline passes. One could argue that Leckuchner uses a variant of Sassen footwork, almost to the point of being an inquartata. Leckuchner does have a play that is essentially Sassen, but with blade contact. There's a video or two from 2010 showing HNIR featuring the previous Soke on TH-cam that is wonderful.
This is beautiful. Keeping the art and the heritage alive.
As a Native American learning to sword fight the music kicked ass
2:34 I can't be the only one who thinks that move was damn impressive!
Well its not, its based on a low bind with a twist of the waist
It's one of my favorite disarms, but it's close to impossible to pull off, especially if your opponent is just as skilled as you are.
@@davidpulanco2715 If you are trying to show off to someone though, it's absolutely the go-to. Just ask your mate to please cooperate beforehand lol
Oh my god, thats the greatest representation of a fight i have never seen, i don’t have the word, i’m so thankful for what a spectacular scene you showed to us. Thanks from france, loved it once again !
1:00
when my costumized character enters the cutscene
Customised*
Ребята большие молодцы, оживили судя по всему реальную боевую технику меча. Супер!!! Ждём ещё видео!!!
that scene at 2mins showing all the moves is incredible. wow.
If only Hollywood would do these fight scenes.........the sword fights in hollywood usually sucks and the good ones always rely on the flashy moves that involves acrobats instead of the efficient ones.......
Tbh who would pay to watch those? No disrespect, but most people nowadays are sheep wanting quantity over quality. If a movie set in historical times used this fighting style, critics will get over it, but audiences are less forgiving. That's just the way the world works.
@@acrsclspdrcls1365 Critics would be too busy counting the number of minorities to actually care about the story and choreography.
@@camper1749
Critics are such fickle-minded creatures.
Why would they do this? This was filmed poorly and was incredibly un exciting
@@ilitardo160 To you, maybe. The like to dislike ratio says otherwise.
3:40 Him stabbing that guy in the face was amazing. It was so elegant and graceful. Only one step and a small wrist movement! Not to mention the the video with is so well put together that the first time I watched it I thought, "OOHHHH he really just stabbed that guy in the face!"
Doesn't need much to be effective. First priority is to remove the threat being presented to oneself, and only then do you consider hitting the other guy. He did both at the same time.
The counter-thrust put the other point off-line, where it would do him no good, and drove home. Textbook.
Love the grappling techniques. You don’t see enough of that in movie sword fights.
THAT WAS AWESOME! The serious study of Fiore dei Liberi, the costumes, the practitioners themselves, the music, the scenery...AWESOME!!! Thank you so much!!!
I like the way the green one dulls his own sword by thrusting it into ground hollywood style.
As soon as he did that I just knew he was going to lose that fight :D
Well they're unarmored, it wouldn't matter.
SpaghettiToaster it always does.
Putting it in the ground once probably won't make a difference, but if you make a habit of abusing your sword, you should not be surprised when it decides not to work at a critical moment.
Maybe my sword is literally indestructible but mine never got dulled even after i tried this and repeated it multiple times to see if something happens.
Truly amazing vid, superb editing, great idea. Congratulations on amazing work.
That was an AMAZING demonstration that communicates how effective these moves were. I love that parry/thrust.
Wykonujecie świetna pracę, wideo na wysokim poziomie, ogląda się to z przyjemnością. Tak trzymac :)
Really well put together. The fencing looks great!
The production quality on this is amazing! Good work, everyone!
I show this video to people who ask me how longsword fencing looks like.
Dumny z Was jestem, wspaniała technika i realizacja!
Man, that music was pretty *sharp*
Now you know why I lost my job.
Great presentation of imagery and footage, these videos have catapulted my own studies and learning forward, thank you!
I love how simple these movements are. Nothing overly flashy or extravagant. Just quick and(literally) to the point.
Amazing! best video of HEMA.
Thanks!!
Used a bunch of these while writing some good sword duels in a story. Thanks a bunch! :)
Beautiful! Many thanks for that video
Great video!!! Keep them coming!
I bet that casul leveled dex.
Noob. Leveling Dex is the reason the man in black never got hit and had high accuracy.
The black man is faith build i guess
Can't wait to see more from you guys!
This is one of the best demonstrate how treatise works in practical fight.
Good one
Stunning. What an art. Much respect to those that keep this alive.
To jest wspaniałe Panowie - gratulacje i powodzenia w dalszych tego typu działaniach :D :D :D
So much more epic than hollywood choreografies...
Great video. Great music and effects. Very enjoyable to see these techniques. Thank you.
amazing! everything.. the music.. the fighting.. the clothes and all those oldschool sword technique pictures this video is a art! i love it
I love this kind of fighting. It's elegant and brutal at the same time, and the speed and lethality makes it pretty scary.
Imagine the People 1000 Years ago, Learning These swordskills with 4-5 Years old in a dark brutal World and fighting you when they are in their 20s:D the People back then were pretty Scary
This video deserves so many more views and likes that it has. This is so dangerous without protective gear.. Just shows how good these guys are.
The blade, a tool by man, for man, against man, has demanded a ballet of movement by antagonists, which is a fatal dance, yet so beautiful to watch.
This was amazingly choreographed and you lads should be proud
wow it started so lame and corny, but after 1:30 holy shit, pure badassery. Grand Epicness
Athex D well thats how the fights looked back then lol
You would describe ANYTHING as lame before using the term "grand epicness?"
I mean you're right but your 'grand epicness' kicks any credit you had over what's lame or not _in the fucking nuts._ XD
cringe reddit moment right here
2:34 I could look this part again and again, its so awesome!
Love the slick take-downs and hand-controls.
I´m speechless. Nice content to find on TH-cam. You guys did a really really good job!
Świetne ! Pierwszy raz widziałem taką świetną technikę !
This is a fantastic video. Most people grow up watching movies where medieval European knights swung their swords around in a clumsy fashion. Manuals from the time show just the opposite, that these were highly skilled and lethal warriors. Thanks to swordfighting skills dying out in Europe fairly early on after the advent of firearms, we tend to think that only Japanese swordsmen were this skilled. I'd venture to guess that European knights pound for pound were as skilled and lethal as Samurai.
Absolutely. So much so that the question "Knight vs. Samurai" is pretty much a wash. Depends on the knight and samurai in question, if you ask me.
Beautiful video, the shots with the manual make it extra special.
Its so cool to see techniques straight from the source done so well.
один из редких моментов, когда видео надо смотресть в 0,5 а то и меньше!!! ЛАЙК!!!
This is amazing and whoever did the music for this is too
Great movie guys!! Absolutely loved it.
amazing quality work, you guys inhabit my dreams
3:39 is my favorite match-cut of all time.
You guys are amazing! Cheers from Italy.
Thanks and cheers!
Fantastic work!!
Powerful and you really do get a sense of hope at the end.
Great job !!!
I want more, the book is not over ^^
Fior di battaglia
All info here :
wiktenauer.com/wiki/Fiore_de'i_Liberi
May be you will become a HEMA practicer ^^
Literally of exceptional quality. My recommendation? Do more!
This is the result of some serious dedication, great job.
Well done! Best short movie I’ve seen in a long time
Chapeau! Excellent work. Greetings of a young swordsman by Gladiatores, a school in germany!
Amazing! Good Job folks! Greetings from Brazil!
Amazing job!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I love the addition of the book pages!
This is pretty awesome. Only gripe is that people don't die instantly when stabbed.
They do, if they are stabbed in the brainstem...
5:37 at x0.25 playback speed, holy shit
Looks great but holy shit it makes the music terrifying
I just finished reading Colin Hatcher’s translation of The Flower of Battle, and it was great to see the techniques being used.
Awesome how you brought the old training to life!
Love your work guys its amazing!!
2:33 Badass as fuck
Knight > any other historical warrior
Paweł Andonis Gawralidis Dobrzański herbu Leliwa. I highly doubt a Knight > winter war Finnish soldier
You sure? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hodów
goo.gl/images/UfLT6h
Yes, i'm sure: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War
www.badassoftheweek.com/badass-simo1.jpg
a name gunpowder makes everything lame