My friends and I did this back in 87. We called it: "concussion" We did have a few rules. No "nut shots" No attacking someone while their helmet was off. No throwing of ANYTHING in the eyes. We used football, hockey equipment and a mixture of handmade armor using carpet, ducktape and string. So much fun.
I made foam sparing swords with pvc pipe cores, pipe insulator foam, all wrapped in a skin of duct tape, me and the homies batter the crap out of each other with em
LOL! Same here. When I was in middle school in the early 1980s, my friends and I did the same thing and we called ours "Honor Dual". During woodshop class we would pretend to work on our assigned class projects. When the teacher wasn't looking we would quickly work on our "special project", i.e. making wooden sword, mace, polearms, flails and other Medieval weapons. We would have 1:1 combat events Friday afterschool in a vacant industrial lot a mile away from school using our special project weapons. We dressed up in athletic safety gears and items and had rules similar to yours. The dual will start off with a coin toss between two combatants. The winner of will hurl a "your mama is,... " insult at the loser. The loser must respond with a "You insulted my honor, and I demand justice by combat." Then both combatants will enter into a roped off 15 foot ring and fight. The winner will be the combatant who is knock to the ground first, forced out of the ring, or surrenders.
@@jaykay5838 yep USA never had knights xD if not greedy european nations indians would live longer and care better for the land now its one big scrapyard
Well the USA is #1 in the world right now for armored combat. So it's valid to wear lol. You only get those if you fight on the USA national team. Where you fight over seas!
I recently started doing buhurt (armored combat) and it’s the most exhilarating sport I’ve ever done. I’ve done fencing and larping, but wearing full plate armor and getting hit with heavy steel weapons is something else. It hurts like a mfr but it’s so much fun!
@@mrrogue4864 I ordered mine from Ukraine, it took 6 months however. Unless you buy armor that’s used and fits you from someone. Don’t buy armor until you find a club to join and practice with. Sometimes they have loaner gear you can use.
I am a fighter in this sport in the New England area! Buhurt (or Armored Combat) is CRAZY fun and intense. Im actually friends with some of the people shown in this video in the battle of nations! Also the prices you cited for armor, while possible arent actually accurate. My armor was about 2k. Still crazy expensive but I know VERY few people who have spent more the 2 to 4k on their gear. The cheapest i've seen was about 1.5k. (This is citing ONE set of armor, obviously over a few years in the sport you might spend more than this). One other big thing is that almost all clubs either have spare armor or will lend new fighters armor to train or compete in while they get their own kit together! The sport is SUPER collaborative and supportive in my experience It also does not come from LARP, and while there is a lot of overlap with the larp community ( I love larp) they are distinct. It comes more directly from medieval tournaments.
I will say, I do think you picked some of the LEAST flattering videos possible for larp lol Look up Drachenfest or other large scale high production events for a better representation of the game!
You're still pretending to fight, just with much harder armor and weapons. If it were real life and death, the strategies and weapons used would be very different. Armor piercing arrows, daggers stabbed between plates of armor, and pole axes to your head.
@@societyofrobots it's not pretending, we're just not trying to kill each other, the same for historical buhurt 😂, it's the same with any other martial art, the end goal is to subdue, not to kill(competitively and recreationally, for self defense its different). If you think otherwise you clearly don't perform in martial arts.
@@societyofrobots I don't wholly disagree with you, I mean sparring is just pretending it's a real fight, right? That's how I used to treat my boxing anyway. Fighting involving weapons is usually meant to be lethal so it isn't full on combat. I wouldn't call it a fake fight, but definitely simulating combat whilst in garb. Kind of like airsoft in ethos. It's still a "gunfight" and simulated battle, but far removed from the real thing.
There is also the halfway point between Buhurt and Larping which is the SCA. Full contact, with rattan instead of steel. Still hurts if ya get hit, but with more stringent rules there are less major injuries in the SCA. And with more safety restrictions also comes a wider variety of available gear to get started, which can get people learning the swordsmanship at a much lower entry level.
i think sca fighting is cooler in a way, theres a lot of tactics and strategy because you can just get one shotted. the steel stuff looks like people just wailing on each other. just saying as an sca war battler. theres less serious injuries yeah, like you wont die but its still gonna hurt for a while😆
Wait that guy at the beginning is one of the founders of Historia Normannis, I've met and fought with him before! He's a great dude. I had no idea he was a meme now? :D
Buhurt fighter here. There is nothing that brings me more joy besides my wife than fighting my friends on the weekends and going to tournys and testing myself against the best fighters in the country
Im a blacksmith in my 20s looking to show off my own armor and skill in combat, Tell me do you know of any people who make their own armor for competition?
I am happy to see buhurt getting more recognition. I am an active practitioner of buhurt (derived from French *behourd* which means to "wallop" or smack). As an FYI for all in the comments, yes it's expensive to get into but worth it IMO. I played hockey, rugby, did jiu jitsu, a brief stint in MMA and as an aging individual who has a penchant for violence, this is the best thing ever. Mister Resonant, LARP is a silly thing to me too, but there are some buhurt fighters who came from the pool noodle swinging virgins clubs, got some action, and they are as 'deadly' as one can get in armor. You nailed when you said people who didn't fit the mold of traditional sports. Black sheep in the atheletic realm. Additional information, most popular fights are the ground and pound type of fights, intense stuff. While those are the most popular fights for spectators, the more commonly practiced are first to fall, lose. Point based dueling is really crazy to watch. Like it's fencing with 50+ to 80+ pounds (don't know kilos) of armor. That point based dueling tends to be more popular with the highly skilled fighters as they like to really work on their movement. While it's easy to take jabs at us Americans, I feel compelled to let you know, a woman out of Colorado was a sword and shield national champion four years in a row and just recently became a world champion for the same "sword and board" duel. When the sport was more in it's infancy in the US, there were no weight or gender classes. As the popularity grows, there do tend to be gender divisions but not always. I believe with dueling however, there is almost never a gender division as the participants are more keen on contact and avoiding the oppenents strikes. Again, thank you for the exposure Res.
I personally had to hunt for buhurst, I liked medieval combat and always tried to find it. First one I joined was reannactment which was ok but felt lacking because of the wooden bamboo weapons. Then I was recommended Lara but it was foam I didn’t even go. Finally after hard searching I found burhurst which was the gem I had been searching for sadly I was on a budget and joined carpentry preapprenticeship so I didn’t have time.
@@handroids1981 I really want to respond in proper Austrailian... *clears throat* 'Get fucked cunt!' I think that means "thank you?" Unfortunately, your astonishment is understandable. Despite political climate, global perception, and our overall behavior; we're not all illiterate, hateful, fascists. I am quite angry though, consequently, me doing the buhurt-ing.
@@sevironside4073 it doesn’t hinder you that much, it weighs just barely more than what they would probably have. I also would try to not make enemies and hopefully it would cause some confusion at the very least if I am attacked
@@Theknightman-wg1dz Bruh, Old Billie Bob Joel would shoot you from a quarter mile away just too see if his gun would penetrate the armour 🤣… but I’m assuming you live in America lol
I started with HEMA (historical fencing) in 2018 and last year with buhurt. Both are wounderfull sports with great teams. I'm so glad that you create a whole video about modern medieval fightin sports at your channel! And especially in the respectful and informed way you presented it!
My brother-in-law is in the ACL!!! No I will not join. HAHAHA. He's tried to talk me into it multiple times, but's I'd rather watch, absolute madmen. He is a veteran, and this helps him in a lot of ways, so I do indeed respect that.
I'm a Filipino but I am one of those people who loves knights and medieval battles and stuff. If I were me, I would go for larping first then battle of the nations or medieval MMA.
as someone who was hit in the leg with a blunt axe - it fucking hurts + it left a permanent indentation and scar. Also I agree with your point on the human need for combat. In Europe now we miss purpose and let other dictate what we do. Need to bring back our spirit
I wouldn't say that modern Buhurt evolved from LARP'ing or anything like that. It's more like taking LARP's + historical reeanactment + fight sports. Eastern and central Europe had a lot of medieval historical reenactment groups for many, many years. A lot of people from those groups also started "playing" with Bohurt ideas, because regular battle inscenizations weren't enough.
Awesome! I do remember in 2017 on such festival in Kyiv I saw crazy duel (1v1) and it was +33 C heat , under direct sun. Just imagine those fighters stamina! They were duelling for 35-40 minutes !
I remember a fight like that, just larp, less hot, no armor, but after thirty minutes of unleashing a flurry of blows on my opponent I just dropped my weapons and went to wrestling. In the end the other guy tapped out because he felt like passing out if he went on. A fight in full plate with that heat must have been murderous
Why are you insinuating that there is something to laugh about? Is there anything more masculine than wielding a fucking steel plate armor weighing 40 kilograms and bashing people's heads in with 2 handed axes? I love it!
There was something called Unified Weapons Master that built high-tech armor for competitive gladiator fighting. It looked more like futuristic armor than medieval armor but they were to fight with blunt swords and other weapons. The armor had sensors that would register how hard the hits were and I think would even simulate the effect of the hits making it difficult for the wounded area to move. That was 10 years ago and I haven't heard anything about it since.
Ok, so back in a day I was a part of LARP\HEMA training. Average weight of armor ~ 20-30 kilos, the swords are dull, but still hurt like a bitch, slashes are allowed but pokes are not, especially hits to groin and joints. Hokey armor padding is used sometimes under the cloth. Funny enough there are more broken noses with LARP than HEMA. The 10.000 USD suit of armor is a titanium one and it is lighter, yet mostly they cost around 3-5K USD. Sometimes cheaper if you order it in Russia. Broken fingers and ribs are a normality. As for crowd - its mostly engineers, IT guys, smiths and sometimes middle management. Overall I don't regret getting into it, great people, great exercise and would totally advise everyone to search for such communities in their areas!
Saying theres no rules is untrue. They have to wear armor of a specific thickness, cant hit the back of the head, and most importantly no thrusting [stabbing]. Those are rules and without them the combat would be very different.
There are LARPs that follow similar rules to the more realistic combat, but are far cheaper and safer with foam weapons. The biggest in North America is Bicolline - 3000 person battles all in full armor.
I used to be a medievalist and we used boffer swords. 2 layers of pipe foam over a 1" pvc pipe. SCA rules were 2 layers of foam. It doesn't say that you can't compact them and wrap them tight. Compress and wrap it tight, and you've got a whip stick. In heavy strike fights, they fucking hurt. A friend of mine had his collar bone broken by a strike from a whip stick. LARPers do pussy fighting with pussy boffer swords.
Really great video!! Love it that you say we are real athletes! A lot of people still think this sport is just a show and you can’t get hurt! Thanks really enjoyed it Ps I’m a German duelist fighter
The US version you featured is called the SCA - it's halfway between foam LARP and steel-fighting. They use wood (rattan) sticks in those huge battles, and you can get away with plastic armor underneath a tabard as long as your head/neck, kidneys, and joints are properly protected. There are steel-fighting clubs in the US of course, and plenty of people in the SCA do both, or even all three things.
You should check the Sletten or Trelleborg fights. It's viking style combat instead of medieval, and there are two versions, western viking style, which is a tapping game and the eastern style where you go into full chain mail and gamberson and bash people with dane axes and other viking weaponry.
The world of medieval combat is much richer than what many people may think and what you cover here. I, for example, am a fencer and reenactor, which basicaly means that on usualy public events I show how the medieval people dressed, lived and fought (tournaments and battles) with real blunted steel weapons. All is historical so many people do not even have metal armours and are hit by steel weapons. It is definitely not as violent as buhurt but it is still lot of fun and in the same time it can be oretty dangerous.
Good to see more people getting into the sport, great stuff writing and assembling it. Just wanted to say you showed SCA there a couple times there which is a different thing as a rule of thumb if the armour looks a little flimsy and they're fighting with sticks and most importantly stabbing then thats SCA and not buhurt. The armour although is expensive is not necessarily 10 grand an entry level harness (suit) can cost you as low as 2000. The rule confusion is understandable it comes from there being 3 main disciplines in buhurt: dueling, melee (or also buhurt confusingly) and pro fights. Dueling is for points with the weapon only melee is 3 points on contact on the floor and profight is points everwhere and you can usually win by KO or TKO. The pro in pro fight does not mean professional as almost noone does this for a living and the people that do are usually coaches. I assume by your accent your English and as pro fights are what interest you you should look up Saturday knight fights on Facebook which is the uk starting a profight league its early days but they're great to watch. Thanks again for the video great stuff.
The Society for Creative Anachronism, an international medieval educational organization, has been at this sort of thing since *1966.* They use rattan for weapons, a sort of fibrous, tropical "wood" which, while solid and heavy, doesn't splinter (which would be dangerous!) when it breaks. And, yeah, it's exciting and exerting and a lot of fun. =^[.]^=
So a note about larp from someone who does HEMA, Buhurt and larp: Not all larps are the same/have the same focus. Some are basically HEMA but with (correctly weighted) foam versions of the weapons. The main difference is that you are trained *not* to take any dangerous strikes (no head shots, neck shots, some you can't do stabbing strikes etc), so it becomes more of an agility contest (in 1v1) or strategic contest (side v side) in how you move your troops across the field. There are also larps where the focus is on story telling and the fighting is just secondary to that (if there's any fighting at all), but those are not really combat larps and they're not intended to be seen as such. Final note: those "d&d" mechanics tend not to appear in the more combat-focused larps, which operate more on a points system (eg You can survive getting hit six times. If your opponent lands more than 6 hits on you, you're "dead" ).
13:15 there is already plenty of armor for show on Amazon, so there are mass manufacturers out there, the only problem is that most if not all of it is 24 through 16 gauge steel (for comparison, most of the gear seen in the video was likely 10 through 6 gauge steel)
We do this because we at our core, we are animals, just because we walk upright and can talk and have critical thinking skills essential for advancing our species... doesnt mean we will abandon our basic instincts, every man loves a good fight. and hey we have to be somewhat safe in this day and age because people will cry otherwise lmao.
Agreed - we do not need "return to MONKE" because we NEVER left MONKE. Also, it is an excelent exercise and is a good way to banter and boast about one's "fief".
i found this sport around 2018, had a serious interest in it but as you said, cost has prevented me from finding a way in, i even found a club within an hour of where in live in the states but havent had the money to even start finding gear
Look up kendo , it has been around for years . Full combat but in samurai clothing . Watched some of it at a kickboxing tournament over 30 years ago . Brutal .
I never felt the allure of most common sports, never did them in school, didn't care about the Superbowl or world cup of anything, but once i found the IMCF world championship footage online from middle school, it quickly grabbed my attention and I lowkey wanted to do it. Unfortunately being 5'6" and 135lbs soaking wet is not exactly buhurt material. So i ended up in the SCA, no where near as intense but, for now, thats what imma stick with "For now." I'm still fucking stupid enough to wanna give it a shot. And by god i fucking will.
I've been telling people about how I legitimately want to do this but the steep entry cost and the fact I don't live that close to anywhere an actual team of these people are has really pushed me away from it.
I go on camps that are just like buhurt but with foam wooden weapons with just little bit of foam its probably toughest larp before buhurt as far as i know
I had a cahe match 2 weekends ago. I wanted to focus on scoring with sword strikes. My opponent was more of a grappler. Grappling wins these days. I had one throw, he had 3. I just got outscored on the ground
Petrik lost twice to Bohumil Masnicak from White Company in the UK. The second time Bohumil took his WMFC Super-heavyweight title which he still holds to this day. I appreciate the video giving Buhurt and medieval combat some exposure but there’s definitely a little outdated information in it
You should make a video going to one of the gyms and trying it out! Check out White Company, they are the best in the UK and placed 2nd at the BL World Cup in Prague in 2023. They train every Sunday from 10:30 in full steel and are based in Nottingham. There's also a tournament coming up in Rochdale, Greater Manchester on 20th June.
This is a real contest of strength, but just that - big guys hammering away with little technique. but for the most part neither the armor, weapons, tactics or techniques are very historically accurate... HEMA is as close to the real thing as you'd get, though not at army scale like this.
"Most people are spending upwards of ten thousand dollars to get into this" is not true though. Not gonna lie, it is obviously expensive but you're talking absolutely top of the line luxury equipment with this price range. I've had multiple kits over the years and I've probably spent a third of that amount in gear during my nearly 10 years practicing this sport in total.
Maybe it’s just where I’m from but we consider shots between tight armor illegal like knee caps if you lodge your sword in there is illegal you get your weapon stuck in somone’s elbow armor that’s illegal neck shots are illegal because a guy got hospitalized after taking one Also face shots are illegal But otherwise pretty fun sport just sucks to be on the ground…
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"Tell me how the grass tastes little man." Best quote, in my opinion
Heavy tf2 ahh quote
With that follow up it was perfect.😂
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I came here just for this!, that opener was SO GOOD lol
My friends and I did this back in 87.
We called it: "concussion"
We did have a few rules.
No "nut shots"
No attacking someone while their helmet was off.
No throwing of ANYTHING in the eyes.
We used football, hockey equipment and a mixture of handmade armor using carpet, ducktape and string.
So much fun.
I made foam sparing swords with pvc pipe cores, pipe insulator foam, all wrapped in a skin of duct tape, me and the homies batter the crap out of each other with em
LOL! Same here. When I was in middle school in the early 1980s, my friends and I did the same thing and we called ours "Honor Dual". During woodshop class we would pretend to work on our assigned class projects. When the teacher wasn't looking we would quickly work on our "special project", i.e. making wooden sword, mace, polearms, flails and other Medieval weapons. We would have 1:1 combat events Friday afterschool in a vacant industrial lot a mile away from school using our special project weapons. We dressed up in athletic safety gears and items and had rules similar to yours. The dual will start off with a coin toss between two combatants. The winner of will hurl a "your mama is,... " insult at the loser. The loser must respond with a "You insulted my honor, and I demand justice by combat." Then both combatants will enter into a roped off 15 foot ring and fight. The winner will be the combatant who is knock to the ground first, forced out of the ring, or surrenders.
Haha same here except we would get medieval weapons that where wooden like swords shields and bows than go beat each other up 😂
Seeing a man at arms with a coat of arms as the American flag is incredibly funny to me
That's just the tabard. Their normal coat of arms has a heraldic bald eagle holding a sword in its talons.
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@@tx7140 I think it's the notion that the U.S. did not exist during the great ages.
@@jaykay5838 yep USA never had knights xD if not greedy european nations indians would live longer and care better for the land now its one big scrapyard
Well the USA is #1 in the world right now for armored combat. So it's valid to wear lol. You only get those if you fight on the USA national team. Where you fight over seas!
I recently started doing buhurt (armored combat) and it’s the most exhilarating sport I’ve ever done. I’ve done fencing and larping, but wearing full plate armor and getting hit with heavy steel weapons is something else. It hurts like a mfr but it’s so much fun!
where do you suggest getting armor since most of the big ones are from Ukraine and cant do it right now?
@@mrrogue4864 I ordered mine from Ukraine, it took 6 months however. Unless you buy armor that’s used and fits you from someone. Don’t buy armor until you find a club to join and practice with. Sometimes they have loaner gear you can use.
@gtiknight cool thank you for the advice, I'll start looking around then for a club first
@@mrrogue4864knight finder through the armored combat sports website is great to help find a local team
@@mrrogue4864 look for Forge of Svan in the Ukraine, takes some time to get but their stuff is very good and for the price, very reasonable
I have to respect anyone willing to step into a ring and fight a man or men with real metal weapons.
It is very addicting.
Tell me about it i wish to join.@@ZONES89RS
I am a fighter in this sport in the New England area! Buhurt (or Armored Combat) is CRAZY fun and intense. Im actually friends with some of the people shown in this video in the battle of nations!
Also the prices you cited for armor, while possible arent actually accurate. My armor was about 2k. Still crazy expensive but I know VERY few people who have spent more the 2 to 4k on their gear. The cheapest i've seen was about 1.5k. (This is citing ONE set of armor, obviously over a few years in the sport you might spend more than this). One other big thing is that almost all clubs either have spare armor or will lend new fighters armor to train or compete in while they get their own kit together! The sport is SUPER collaborative and supportive in my experience
It also does not come from LARP, and while there is a lot of overlap with the larp community ( I love larp) they are distinct. It comes more directly from medieval tournaments.
I will say, I do think you picked some of the LEAST flattering videos possible for larp lol Look up Drachenfest or other large scale high production events for a better representation of the game!
2-4k??? So that buys you about a square meter of armor
There are areas where you will need 10k to buy one square meter of house...
ayyyyyy Commoner!
Buhurt/Armored Combat is not larp. Larp is Live Action Role Play, we do not role play, we suit up and we fight.
I agree it’s a common misunderstanding. It’s easy to see from the outside though. “Dressing up” often seem normal person like role-play.
You're still pretending to fight, just with much harder armor and weapons. If it were real life and death, the strategies and weapons used would be very different. Armor piercing arrows, daggers stabbed between plates of armor, and pole axes to your head.
@@societyofrobots it's not pretending, we're just not trying to kill each other, the same for historical buhurt 😂, it's the same with any other martial art, the end goal is to subdue, not to kill(competitively and recreationally, for self defense its different). If you think otherwise you clearly don't perform in martial arts.
@@societyofrobots also, we still take pole axes to the head.
@@societyofrobots I don't wholly disagree with you, I mean sparring is just pretending it's a real fight, right? That's how I used to treat my boxing anyway. Fighting involving weapons is usually meant to be lethal so it isn't full on combat. I wouldn't call it a fake fight, but definitely simulating combat whilst in garb. Kind of like airsoft in ethos. It's still a "gunfight" and simulated battle, but far removed from the real thing.
There is also the halfway point between Buhurt and Larping which is the SCA. Full contact, with rattan instead of steel. Still hurts if ya get hit, but with more stringent rules there are less major injuries in the SCA. And with more safety restrictions also comes a wider variety of available gear to get started, which can get people learning the swordsmanship at a much lower entry level.
Yea my first society I joined I didn’t feel it really so I searched and joined burhurst.
Looked like there was a clip from Pennsic (takes place near Pittsburgh) Not a fighter myself but love watching the fights when I can
i think sca fighting is cooler in a way, theres a lot of tactics and strategy because you can just get one shotted. the steel stuff looks like people just wailing on each other. just saying as an sca war battler. theres less serious injuries yeah, like you wont die but its still gonna hurt for a while😆
The SCA heavy combat is like buhurt but the people gotta go to work the next day 😂
In the SCA, your opponent grants you a victory but acknowledging a hit that has some imaginary consequences. Buhurt is a combat sport
Wait that guy at the beginning is one of the founders of Historia Normannis, I've met and fought with him before! He's a great dude. I had no idea he was a meme now? :D
The mighty Ben
Buhurt fighter here. There is nothing that brings me more joy besides my wife than fighting my friends on the weekends and going to tournys and testing myself against the best fighters in the country
Im a blacksmith in my 20s looking to show off my own armor and skill in combat, Tell me do you know of any people who make their own armor for competition?
I am happy to see buhurt getting more recognition. I am an active practitioner of buhurt (derived from French *behourd* which means to "wallop" or smack). As an FYI for all in the comments, yes it's expensive to get into but worth it IMO. I played hockey, rugby, did jiu jitsu, a brief stint in MMA and as an aging individual who has a penchant for violence, this is the best thing ever.
Mister Resonant, LARP is a silly thing to me too, but there are some buhurt fighters who came from the pool noodle swinging virgins clubs, got some action, and they are as 'deadly' as one can get in armor.
You nailed when you said people who didn't fit the mold of traditional sports. Black sheep in the atheletic realm.
Additional information, most popular fights are the ground and pound type of fights, intense stuff. While those are the most popular fights for spectators, the more commonly practiced are first to fall, lose. Point based dueling is really crazy to watch. Like it's fencing with 50+ to 80+ pounds (don't know kilos) of armor. That point based dueling tends to be more popular with the highly skilled fighters as they like to really work on their movement.
While it's easy to take jabs at us Americans, I feel compelled to let you know, a woman out of Colorado was a sword and shield national champion four years in a row and just recently became a world champion for the same "sword and board" duel. When the sport was more in it's infancy in the US, there were no weight or gender classes. As the popularity grows, there do tend to be gender divisions but not always. I believe with dueling however, there is almost never a gender division as the participants are more keen on contact and avoiding the oppenents strikes.
Again, thank you for the exposure Res.
What an informative, concise and articulate comment. And from a Yank?
(Says the poor Aussie LOL...)
I personally had to hunt for buhurst, I liked medieval combat and always tried to find it. First one I joined was reannactment which was ok but felt lacking because of the wooden bamboo weapons. Then I was recommended Lara but it was foam I didn’t even go. Finally after hard searching I found burhurst which was the gem I had been searching for sadly I was on a budget and joined carpentry preapprenticeship so I didn’t have time.
@@handroids1981 I really want to respond in proper Austrailian... *clears throat* 'Get fucked cunt!' I think that means "thank you?"
Unfortunately, your astonishment is understandable. Despite political climate, global perception, and our overall behavior; we're not all illiterate, hateful, fascists. I am quite angry though, consequently, me doing the buhurt-ing.
How expensive is it to start ?
@@darkwarrior5560 I asked and they POLITELY said please Google it for your country/ area.
These are the people who would ACTUALLY survive a zombie apocolypse.
Chain mail & plate= anti bite & claw.
I said that my strategy if a zombie apocalypse happened was to go get full plate armor and a crows beak to just be immune to the zombies pretty much
@@Theknightman-wg1dzzombie arnt gonna be the thing to worry about… it’s your fellow humans, and the armours gonna make you pretty slow
@@sevironside4073 it doesn’t hinder you that much, it weighs just barely more than what they would probably have. I also would try to not make enemies and hopefully it would cause some confusion at the very least if I am attacked
@@Theknightman-wg1dz Bruh, Old Billie Bob Joel would shoot you from a quarter mile away just too see if his gun would penetrate the armour 🤣… but I’m assuming you live in America lol
I started with HEMA (historical fencing) in 2018 and last year with buhurt. Both are wounderfull sports with great teams.
I'm so glad that you create a whole video about modern medieval fightin sports at your channel! And especially in the respectful and informed way you presented it!
My brother-in-law is in the ACL!!! No I will not join. HAHAHA. He's tried to talk me into it multiple times, but's I'd rather watch, absolute madmen. He is a veteran, and this helps him in a lot of ways, so I do indeed respect that.
I'm a Filipino but I am one of those people who loves knights and medieval battles and stuff. If I were me, I would go for larping first then battle of the nations or medieval MMA.
as someone who was hit in the leg with a blunt axe - it fucking hurts + it left a permanent indentation and scar. Also I agree with your point on the human need for combat. In Europe now we miss purpose and let other dictate what we do. Need to bring back our spirit
Try supporting the Ukranians? They're having a real good fight with purpose ATM. As a bonus you get to stick it to the cheating Russians
Billions must larp
I wouldn't say that modern Buhurt evolved from LARP'ing or anything like that. It's more like taking LARP's + historical reeanactment + fight sports. Eastern and central Europe had a lot of medieval historical reenactment groups for many, many years. A lot of people from those groups also started "playing" with Bohurt ideas, because regular battle inscenizations weren't enough.
Awesome! I do remember in 2017 on such festival in Kyiv I saw crazy duel (1v1) and it was +33 C heat , under direct sun.
Just imagine those fighters stamina! They were duelling for 35-40 minutes !
I remember a fight like that, just larp, less hot, no armor, but after thirty minutes of unleashing a flurry of blows on my opponent I just dropped my weapons and went to wrestling. In the end the other guy tapped out because he felt like passing out if he went on.
A fight in full plate with that heat must have been murderous
In general new sports are so much more exciting, when people are still inovating tactics and finding out which work
That start was like straight out of KCD or Skyrim. Hilarious.
Definitely KCD
Why are you insinuating that there is something to laugh about? Is there anything more masculine than wielding a fucking steel plate armor weighing 40 kilograms and bashing people's heads in with 2 handed axes? I love it!
bruh, same.
It felt like he was laughing at it.
MF what about a 100kg man wearing armor half his weight running ar you with a greataxe?!?!
@@yawarapuyurak3271being a 70 kg man, I just hope the gras tastes nice
@sjonnieplayfull5859 being a 60 kg man, I can assure you it's not
It’s a bunch a dudes larping
There was something called Unified Weapons Master that built high-tech armor for competitive gladiator fighting. It looked more like futuristic armor than medieval armor but they were to fight with blunt swords and other weapons. The armor had sensors that would register how hard the hits were and I think would even simulate the effect of the hits making it difficult for the wounded area to move. That was 10 years ago and I haven't heard anything about it since.
Ok, so back in a day I was a part of LARP\HEMA training.
Average weight of armor ~ 20-30 kilos, the swords are dull, but still hurt like a bitch, slashes are allowed but pokes are not, especially hits to groin and joints. Hokey armor padding is used sometimes under the cloth.
Funny enough there are more broken noses with LARP than HEMA. The 10.000 USD suit of armor is a titanium one and it is lighter, yet mostly they cost around 3-5K USD. Sometimes cheaper if you order it in Russia.
Broken fingers and ribs are a normality.
As for crowd - its mostly engineers, IT guys, smiths and sometimes middle management.
Overall I don't regret getting into it, great people, great exercise and would totally advise everyone to search for such communities in their areas!
Seems like a great thing to bring back, let men be men and let them fight.
Saying theres no rules is untrue. They have to wear armor of a specific thickness, cant hit the back of the head, and most importantly no thrusting [stabbing].
Those are rules and without them the combat would be very different.
There are LARPs that follow similar rules to the more realistic combat, but are far cheaper and safer with foam weapons. The biggest in North America is Bicolline - 3000 person battles all in full armor.
I used to be a medievalist and we used boffer swords. 2 layers of pipe foam over a 1" pvc pipe. SCA rules were 2 layers of foam. It doesn't say that you can't compact them and wrap them tight. Compress and wrap it tight, and you've got a whip stick. In heavy strike fights, they fucking hurt. A friend of mine had his collar bone broken by a strike from a whip stick. LARPers do pussy fighting with pussy boffer swords.
Really great video!! Love it that you say we are real athletes! A lot of people still think this sport is just a show and you can’t get hurt! Thanks really enjoyed it
Ps I’m a German duelist fighter
"What makes the grass grow? Blood, blood, blood!"
Imagine Marines fighting in this?
Brutal...
In my 20s [75 now] a group of us would spear fight for fun most weekends. It was quite vicious, but nothing like this, though we had no armour.
The US version you featured is called the SCA - it's halfway between foam LARP and steel-fighting. They use wood (rattan) sticks in those huge battles, and you can get away with plastic armor underneath a tabard as long as your head/neck, kidneys, and joints are properly protected. There are steel-fighting clubs in the US of course, and plenty of people in the SCA do both, or even all three things.
I know you are mentioning Ukraine or Serbia, but the castle you show few times (0:55) is Czech Castle Landstejn.
You should check the Sletten or Trelleborg fights. It's viking style combat instead of medieval, and there are two versions, western viking style, which is a tapping game and the eastern style where you go into full chain mail and gamberson and bash people with dane axes and other viking weaponry.
The world of medieval combat is much richer than what many people may think and what you cover here.
I, for example, am a fencer and reenactor, which basicaly means that on usualy public events I show how the medieval people dressed, lived and fought (tournaments and battles) with real blunted steel weapons. All is historical so many people do not even have metal armours and are hit by steel weapons. It is definitely not as violent as buhurt but it is still lot of fun and in the same time it can be oretty dangerous.
I need to get into this.
I will larp as levy, with just a stick.
armored mma or amma called is also a quiet crazy event :D
Good to see more people getting into the sport, great stuff writing and assembling it. Just wanted to say you showed SCA there a couple times there which is a different thing as a rule of thumb if the armour looks a little flimsy and they're fighting with sticks and most importantly stabbing then thats SCA and not buhurt.
The armour although is expensive is not necessarily 10 grand an entry level harness (suit) can cost you as low as 2000.
The rule confusion is understandable it comes from there being 3 main disciplines in buhurt: dueling, melee (or also buhurt confusingly) and pro fights. Dueling is for points with the weapon only melee is 3 points on contact on the floor and profight is points everwhere and you can usually win by KO or TKO.
The pro in pro fight does not mean professional as almost noone does this for a living and the people that do are usually coaches.
I assume by your accent your English and as pro fights are what interest you you should look up Saturday knight fights on Facebook which is the uk starting a profight league its early days but they're great to watch. Thanks again for the video great stuff.
Shut up Josh ;)
But yeah you're pretty much spot on with all your points and he should definitely check out Saturday Knight fights
The Society for Creative Anachronism, an international medieval educational organization, has been at this sort of thing since *1966.* They use rattan for weapons, a sort of fibrous, tropical "wood" which, while solid and heavy, doesn't splinter (which would be dangerous!) when it breaks. And, yeah, it's exciting and exerting and a lot of fun. =^[.]^=
So a note about larp from someone who does HEMA, Buhurt and larp:
Not all larps are the same/have the same focus. Some are basically HEMA but with (correctly weighted) foam versions of the weapons. The main difference is that you are trained *not* to take any dangerous strikes (no head shots, neck shots, some you can't do stabbing strikes etc), so it becomes more of an agility contest (in 1v1) or strategic contest (side v side) in how you move your troops across the field.
There are also larps where the focus is on story telling and the fighting is just secondary to that (if there's any fighting at all), but those are not really combat larps and they're not intended to be seen as such.
Final note: those "d&d" mechanics tend not to appear in the more combat-focused larps, which operate more on a points system (eg You can survive getting hit six times. If your opponent lands more than 6 hits on you, you're "dead" ).
13:15 there is already plenty of armor for show on Amazon, so there are mass manufacturers out there, the only problem is that most if not all of it is 24 through 16 gauge steel (for comparison, most of the gear seen in the video was likely 10 through 6 gauge steel)
I think the price entry has some nice side effect, you really have to be into this stuff and the result is super high intensity sport in overall.
We do this because we at our core, we are animals, just because we walk upright and can talk and have critical thinking skills essential for advancing our species... doesnt mean we will abandon our basic instincts, every man loves a good fight. and hey we have to be somewhat safe in this day and age because people will cry otherwise lmao.
Agreed - we do not need "return to MONKE" because we NEVER left MONKE.
Also, it is an excelent exercise and is a good way to banter and boast about one's "fief".
fascinating to get an idea of what a medieval knight on knight battle may have actually looked like!
I was so ready to hear thunderkiss when that riff started...
Buhurt is not Larp, but it is addictive, the adrenaline rush of your first time in Armour is insane. I started 2½ years ago and love it.
Love the Chaos of Armored Combat!
yo can you imagine that this is how we used to fight wars? man it must’ve been exhausting and lengthy as hell
A friend of mine was doing this. He was fielding with a group called the New York Knights here in the U.S.
This is way better than WWE and UFC combined. It is just not as advertised by sports betting sites.
bro that opening clip, was the definition of disrespect 💀💀
Dude parried the charge attack
Everyone has a plan until they get shield bashed in the face..
I want to do this so badly but I don't think there's any teams (let alone academies) in Texas.
That and it's pretty expensive.
There’s probably more than anything. I do some of the Viking stuff and there’s huge group that come from Texas
Dallas Warlords and Houston San Jacinto Knights are some of the best teams in the country.
@@RyanKrauss-oc7bq Oh damn, thank you so much for that info.
I'm going to look those teams up.
I've fought and went to training camps with both those teams. Really great group of guys that honestly want to improve the sport
I love this.
The costs of getting started in this is still probably cheaper than the cost of what I have to shell out for hockey sadly.
Notice how it doesn't look like it does in the movies. Crazy stuff.
nice to watch!
i found this sport around 2018, had a serious interest in it but as you said, cost has prevented me from finding a way in, i even found a club within an hour of where in live in the states but havent had the money to even start finding gear
You should do a video on HEMA it's so interesting and beautiful to watch
Look up kendo , it has been around for years . Full combat but in samurai clothing . Watched some of it at a kickboxing tournament over 30 years ago . Brutal .
Man i can imagine myself there swinging around an axe or naginata for a dozen minutes like crazy before taken down when i am gasping for breath
I never felt the allure of most common sports, never did them in school, didn't care about the Superbowl or world cup of anything, but once i found the IMCF world championship footage online from middle school, it quickly grabbed my attention and I lowkey wanted to do it.
Unfortunately being 5'6" and 135lbs soaking wet is not exactly buhurt material.
So i ended up in the SCA, no where near as intense but, for now, thats what imma stick with
"For now."
I'm still fucking stupid enough to wanna give it a shot.
And by god i fucking will.
I've been telling people about how I legitimately want to do this but the steep entry cost and the fact I don't live that close to anywhere an actual team of these people are has really pushed me away from it.
Never gonna regret when I got in this sport! Best moments in my life ❤
I go on camps that are just like buhurt but with foam wooden weapons with just little bit of foam its probably toughest larp before buhurt as far as i know
I really want to do this but I'm stuck all the in Vermont😢
I had a cahe match 2 weekends ago. I wanted to focus on scoring with sword strikes. My opponent was more of a grappler. Grappling wins these days. I had one throw, he had 3. I just got outscored on the ground
It's the Dark Souls of MMA. Literally.
Literally a bucket list item for me no fuckin doubt
That ingushetian dude is crazy
Petrik lost twice to Bohumil Masnicak from White Company in the UK. The second time Bohumil took his WMFC Super-heavyweight title which he still holds to this day.
I appreciate the video giving Buhurt and medieval combat some exposure but there’s definitely a little outdated information in it
The Knights that went to those tournaments did often die, don't think that they did not.
Come hang out in central California for the weekend. We can Buhurt by day, and Bannerlord by night. ⚔️ stoked to see you cover our sport! Cheers 👏
10:21 - _"main audience... is computer nerds"_
I feel called out.
lol
Buhurt isn't really Larping its just fight club with set of real armors and dulled out weapons
as an archer this is what I want to do
FINALLY you get to see what this sport is all about.
Where did they get the armor
I was there at the voyage north! Noticed the vid you've took from a friend. Should come join us! ;D
I still have scars from my days doing HEMA.
In 5 years you'll have to check if the suits of armor have humans in them or robots.
Is that kipchak armor in the thumbnail?
why did it say serbia 2019 thou .. was it there then ?
Shield smashing to the head is 100% permanent brain damage. Those people are nuts
I really hope to get into it someday.
Is there an order of Teutonic style fighters?
im joining up once i turn 18 next month for REAL
10:18 i feel so called out
this is totally BADASS! Put me in coach!!!
Its weird to see people I know personally in a random youtube video.
sick ... I love it!
You should make a video going to one of the gyms and trying it out! Check out White Company, they are the best in the UK and placed 2nd at the BL World Cup in Prague in 2023. They train every Sunday from 10:30 in full steel and are based in Nottingham. There's also a tournament coming up in Rochdale, Greater Manchester on 20th June.
'Tis but a scratch."
I pray we shall see this more in next coming years.
The LARPing of Concussion.
Looks like a lot of fun
The battlefield, "The more *casual* versions"
This is a real contest of strength, but just that - big guys hammering away with little technique. but for the most part neither the armor, weapons, tactics or techniques are very historically accurate... HEMA is as close to the real thing as you'd get, though not at army scale like this.
Ever since Lars took an arrow to the knee he hasn't been the same.
"Most people are spending upwards of ten thousand dollars to get into this" is not true though. Not gonna lie, it is obviously expensive but you're talking absolutely top of the line luxury equipment with this price range. I've had multiple kits over the years and I've probably spent a third of that amount in gear during my nearly 10 years practicing this sport in total.
to be fair you cant really blunt a hammer to make it more safe.
Maybe it’s just where I’m from but we consider shots between tight armor illegal like knee caps if you lodge your sword in there is illegal you get your weapon stuck in somone’s elbow armor that’s illegal neck shots are illegal because a guy got hospitalized after taking one
Also face shots are illegal But otherwise pretty fun sport just sucks to be on the ground…