I got a CTY2 and I love it! No regrets! Fits all my needs and definitely a huge step up from the top end Super73’s for the price. I don’t feel that Onyx compromised much to meet the CTY2 price tag vs the RCR.
@@cacogenicist the smaller battery size was probably the only real issue I had with the bike, but I think that was one of the biggest things that helped keep the price lower. The stock battery I think will be fine for many unless you are an enthusiast or will use it to commute long distances. If anything, you can upgrade the battery with a bigger aftermarket one if you find the range to limiting for your needs.
The CTY 2 is the perfect tool for the job I’m aiming to do. There’s an appeal to being a classy, capable sleeper that’s tougher & impossible to achieve with more louder offerings. This example will cover many bases.
The CTY2 has grown on me I like this bike the step through doesn't bother me it's a lot of bike for the money and it's faster than the super73 at a better price 😀
I honestly like both bikes but if I could only pick one I would save up for the RCR. The design of the bike really does it for me. As for content I think its good your expanding your topics. always nice to have some variety. Single focused channels rarely survive these days anyway.
Looks sweet I'm still rocking my dualtron but if I had the money and got a ebike. I would go with this over say something like the surron or the onyx rcr only cause it's small and different for sure. I've never owned a brand new pev but I'll wait for some used cty2s to go up for sale and try to get one cheaper XD appreciate the honest review! I'll allso mention this heat wave I had my dualtron eagle pro overheat twice while delivering UberEATS. It was not very fun luckily it's just turned itself off and I had to wait some time for it to be able to turn on. I got lucky that no permenatly noticeable damage happened to it.
I bought one from their official website, but it seemed that I was the first Canadian to buy one that way unstead of an affiliated store. We got surprised at a 2000$ in custom... They contacted me and we agreed to cancel the order. They no longer advertise shipping to Canada due to that.
for my next bike I want it to be a mountain bike frame / tyres but have high power and lots of battery, it needs to be as light as possible, should I use a 1500w hub drive with a shunt mod to make it do high amps, or get a motor thats designed for high power 72v out of the box, or should I modify one of my BBSHD with a BAC ASI and make it go up to 3 or 4 KW ?
I want one bad perfect commuter bike if you live in an area with poor bike infrastructure throttle is a safety feature not a toy the fact this thing is faster than a sur ron and a grand cheaper it’s an obvious choice for me also step through is convenient for riding around town
I am short (4’11). I bo ugh the a Rize Boltx and it’s still too big. The cty2 step through is an inch shorter. It’s the only way I can ride. I will buy one when I have the money.
Honestly, I would prefer the RCR over the CTY2, but then I'd prefer a Zero motorcycle over both. The issue isn't what you 'prefer to ride' but rather what you believe you can get away with riding over 20/28mph on roads without registration/insurance/etc. The CTY2 is definitely an easier sell than the RCR and possibly even the Surron in that regard.
I had a used 2022 Zero FX. Sold it after 5 months at a $4k loss. The bike spent more time in the shop than in my garage. My dealership and Zero support were HORRENDOUS. Be very careful with Zero - they do not care, at all, about their customers or their product. My bike shut off on my twice in traffic. 9 weeks later. 9 weeks later, after sending the computer logs to Zero, their response was word for word "We need photos of the bike". Do NOT buy a Zero.
@@russellphotos195 That's rough, sorry. It's kind of an issue across this space as reliability of these electric bikes seem to be significantly lower than ICE bikes.
@@alwaysplaythegame I reached out across the Internet and found people who love their Zero, no issues, good dealership, and then I found those who hate Zero, with a passion, and sold their bike at a huge loss. Zero missed their sales numbers big time, dissolved their customer service department and moved their manufacturing to the Philippines. I wouldn't touch Zero with a ten foot pole.
Cty2 is a nice bike but lacks on cargo. Power and speed is always upgradable but you can't change the frame to your needs. It's more of a collectable bike in my eyes and not a daily rider to do errands on. I do agree there's a platform missing with the 60v batteries. They are out there and seems noone wants to use them except Onyx and fabulous ebikes (road warrior x2 dual motor w/60v 20ah) it has dual 750w off brand motors with the small 9 pin motor connectors, cheapish components & under 20amps on both controllers. I think that's where they went wrong. Top speed on it is almost the same territory as the AR grizzly & 52v xclass bikes. The sweet spot for me is 40 to 45mph on an ebike. Fast enough to keep up with local traffic and slow enough to keep you safe on the roads. I would also like to see ebike companies in the future coming out with a programmable controllers where you can modify the power of your riding and swap out batteries on the fly.
Apparently you don't know what the top speed of a grizzly is cause the onxy cty2 is about 15mph faster. I think you need to know what your talking about before you post
The reason 60v batteries aren't very popular is because typically only 48V/52V battery models are in line with ebike regulations. Once you get to 60 volts, you are outside of the legal limits and you might as well go up to 72 volts.
@@1dash133 Every 60v bike isn't an ebike by state law except in portions of Alaska and Kentucky. Enforcement, on the other hand, couldn't be more varied, differing from one part of a city to another often enough.
To clarify, you would need to register and insure a 60v bike for it to be legal on roads, which brings a lot more regulations onto the manufacturer as well as the owner.
@@alwaysplaythegame I haven't run across any state laws governing voltage on e-bikes. For example, Florida defines e-bikes as follows: (23) ELECTRIC BICYCLE.-A bicycle or tricycle equipped with fully operable pedals, a seat or saddle for the use of the rider, and an electric motor of less than 750 watts which meets the requirements of one of the following three classifications: (a) “Class 1 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling and that ceases to provide assistance when the electric bicycle reaches the speed of 20 miles per hour. (b) “Class 2 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle equipped with a motor that may be used exclusively to propel the electric bicycle and that ceases to provide assistance when the electric bicycle reaches the speed of 20 miles per hour. (c) “Class 3 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling and that ceases to provide assistance when the electric bicycle reaches the speed of 28 miles per hour. The law further regulates the operation of electric bikes under Section 316.20655, but that regulation has nothing to do with what qualifies as an e-bike. Reference: www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0316/0316.html If you are arguing that EVERY 60V bike exceeds 750W, therefore they fail to comply with the laws of the state of Florida (or any of the other states), I'd suggest otherwise.
So at 40mp, that's what, like 15 miles of range, or some shit? There's just not enough battery capacity on that bike. I don't dig the wood trim either. I can see why some people might, but that would look better as faux carbon fiber, or matte black, or something
@@Hakuonu I'm gonna build an ebike in a couple of months that can go 35mph for 70 miles or 45 mph for 40 miles. 72v40ah(2.88kwh) battery on Amazon is 800 bucks. Gonna turn a Schwinn Axum into a 2000w(3300w peak) ebike with good range. Cost for bike/battery/motor kit is 1500 bucks. Between added accessories and safety gear about 1800 bucks.
e-Bikes cross the USA border without CAN duties, you will only pay Provincial sales taxes on the stated value converted to $ CAN. Duty free under section 8711.60.00.00 Electric Bicycle with electric motor. ONYX shipping to the northern states is cheap about $50 USD, then deal with a third party broker like 'shippsy' to bring it across, maybe $100.00 CAN. You will need to pick it up at a Canadian 'shippsy' warehouse as the box is too big and heavy to re-ship from there to a home address, you can do that but it will be expensive. 'Shippsy' has warehouses in Ontario and BC. Otherwise, you can order it in Canada from 'Vintage Iron Cycles' but they will mark up the price about $500 CAN more than ordering it direct from ONYX and bringing it across the border yourself, as described.
No the looks are just not that great....I'm into the RCR look. Yup maybe the 60 volt batteries will become more common. The 52 volt x 2 in the more affordable scrambler 2 seem like a great deal....I also like the wheels on the Scrambler 2. Bit more forward thinking.
100 miles on my CTY 2 in the first week. Bike is amazing. Totally worth every penny
I like the cty because it doesn’t look so illegal. it is quiet and fast.
I got a CTY2 and I love it! No regrets! Fits all my needs and definitely a huge step up from the top end Super73’s for the price. I don’t feel that Onyx compromised much to meet the CTY2 price tag vs the RCR.
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Do you find the small battery capacity limiting?
I would consider it if it had _two_ 23Ah batteries.
@@cacogenicist the smaller battery size was probably the only real issue I had with the bike, but I think that was one of the biggest things that helped keep the price lower. The stock battery I think will be fine for many unless you are an enthusiast or will use it to commute long distances. If anything, you can upgrade the battery with a bigger aftermarket one if you find the range to limiting for your needs.
I have the cty2. The bike is a monster despite it's little size and I top out at 53 mph
I'd take the "C" over the "R" since I think it's easier to ride without attracting attention.
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My husband got one I think it’ll be my ebike over the Super 73 he bought and the 2 C3 Stroms due to deliver this month. CTY2 is sweet.
The CTY 2 is the perfect tool for the job I’m aiming to do.
There’s an appeal to being a classy, capable sleeper that’s tougher & impossible to achieve with more louder offerings.
This example will cover many bases.
The CTY2 has grown on me I like this bike the step through doesn't bother me it's a lot of bike for the money and it's faster than the super73 at a better price 😀
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We have both and it is CTY2 for me.
The Super73 actually came out cheaper with no shipping fee. We had to pay extra to ship the CTY2.
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I honestly like both bikes but if I could only pick one I would save up for the RCR. The design of the bike really does it for me. As for content I think its good your expanding your topics. always nice to have some variety. Single focused channels rarely survive these days anyway.
I agree. The more content you have the better.
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Looks sweet I'm still rocking my dualtron but if I had the money and got a ebike. I would go with this over say something like the surron or the onyx rcr only cause it's small and different for sure. I've never owned a brand new pev but I'll wait for some used cty2s to go up for sale and try to get one cheaper XD appreciate the honest review! I'll allso mention this heat wave I had my dualtron eagle pro overheat twice while delivering UberEATS. It was not very fun luckily it's just turned itself off and I had to wait some time for it to be able to turn on. I got lucky that no permenatly noticeable damage happened to it.
I bought one from their official website, but it seemed that I was the first Canadian to buy one that way unstead of an affiliated store. We got surprised at a 2000$ in custom... They contacted me and we agreed to cancel the order. They no longer advertise shipping to Canada due to that.
Man that sucks. They held your bike hostage
I think the videos are a good formula very informative well taking in the scenery of a E bike ride!
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Long time subscribed. You shouldn’t worry too much about changing your video content. You have a really good TH-cam personality.
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I mostly enjoy seeing you ride
I’m buying my first conversation kit I liked those videos
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I'm 74. The step through design is better for me.
I'm 49 -- better for me also. :-)
for my next bike I want it to be a mountain bike frame / tyres but have high power and lots of battery, it needs to be as light as possible, should I use a 1500w hub drive with a shunt mod to make it do high amps, or get a motor thats designed for high power 72v out of the box, or should I modify one of my BBSHD with a BAC ASI and make it go up to 3 or 4 KW ?
what a face reveal. nice review man
What bike are you riding in the video?
Want to see how are you use pedals function
I want one bad perfect commuter bike if you live in an area with poor bike infrastructure throttle is a safety feature not a toy the fact this thing is faster than a sur ron and a grand cheaper it’s an obvious choice for me also step through is convenient for riding around town
What kind of motor does the CTY bike has ?
What bike are you riding in this video?
I'm sold
I am short (4’11). I bo ugh the a Rize Boltx and it’s still too big. The cty2 step through is an inch shorter. It’s the only way I can ride. I will buy one when I have the money.
CTY2 might be mu choice too. Just wish it didn’t weigh so much .. 160lbs is no joke
Honestly, I would prefer the RCR over the CTY2, but then I'd prefer a Zero motorcycle over both. The issue isn't what you 'prefer to ride' but rather what you believe you can get away with riding over 20/28mph on roads without registration/insurance/etc. The CTY2 is definitely an easier sell than the RCR and possibly even the Surron in that regard.
I had a used 2022 Zero FX. Sold it after 5 months at a $4k loss. The bike spent more time in the shop than in my garage. My dealership and Zero support were HORRENDOUS. Be very careful with Zero - they do not care, at all, about their customers or their product. My bike shut off on my twice in traffic. 9 weeks later. 9 weeks later, after sending the computer logs to Zero, their response was word for word "We need photos of the bike". Do NOT buy a Zero.
@@russellphotos195 That's rough, sorry. It's kind of an issue across this space as reliability of these electric bikes seem to be significantly lower than ICE bikes.
@@alwaysplaythegame I reached out across the Internet and found people who love their Zero, no issues, good dealership, and then I found those who hate Zero, with a passion, and sold their bike at a huge loss. Zero missed their sales numbers big time, dissolved their customer service department and moved their manufacturing to the Philippines. I wouldn't touch Zero with a ten foot pole.
If the battery dies can you still pedal it home or are you stranded?
This just happened to me. I had to walk it home 2 miles lol
Just bought an ebike the other day. But being it 110°F In the afternoon im cautious riding around for too long. Any advice? Other than night rides.
I got a small usb fan and put it on my controller. it actually helps
coast my friend. let air cool things down
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Cty2 is a nice bike but lacks on cargo. Power and speed is always upgradable but you can't change the frame to your needs. It's more of a collectable bike in my eyes and not a daily rider to do errands on. I do agree there's a platform missing with the 60v batteries. They are out there and seems noone wants to use them except Onyx and fabulous ebikes (road warrior x2 dual motor w/60v 20ah) it has dual 750w off brand motors with the small 9 pin motor connectors, cheapish components & under 20amps on both controllers. I think that's where they went wrong. Top speed on it is almost the same territory as the AR grizzly & 52v xclass bikes.
The sweet spot for me is 40 to 45mph on an ebike. Fast enough to keep up with local traffic and slow enough to keep you safe on the roads. I would also like to see ebike companies in the future coming out with a programmable controllers where you can modify the power of your riding and swap out batteries on the fly.
Programable controllers would be awesome. that’s one of my favorite things about my current build
i didnt know the 52v x class can hit 50mph
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Apparently you don't know what the top speed of a grizzly is cause the onxy cty2 is about 15mph faster. I think you need to know what your talking about before you post
Step through just makes me nervous about frame stability.
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The reason 60v batteries aren't very popular is because typically only 48V/52V battery models are in line with ebike regulations. Once you get to 60 volts, you are outside of the legal limits and you might as well go up to 72 volts.
Legal limits vary by state. Enforcement varies by county/municipality. YMMV.
@@1dash133 Every 60v bike isn't an ebike by state law except in portions of Alaska and Kentucky. Enforcement, on the other hand, couldn't be more varied, differing from one part of a city to another often enough.
To clarify, you would need to register and insure a 60v bike for it to be legal on roads, which brings a lot more regulations onto the manufacturer as well as the owner.
@@alwaysplaythegame I haven't run across any state laws governing voltage on e-bikes. For example, Florida defines e-bikes as follows:
(23) ELECTRIC BICYCLE.-A bicycle or tricycle equipped with fully operable pedals, a seat or saddle for the use of the rider, and an electric motor of less than 750 watts which meets the requirements of one of the following three classifications:
(a) “Class 1 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling and that ceases to provide assistance when the electric bicycle reaches the speed of 20 miles per hour.
(b) “Class 2 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle equipped with a motor that may be used exclusively to propel the electric bicycle and that ceases to provide assistance when the electric bicycle reaches the speed of 20 miles per hour.
(c) “Class 3 electric bicycle” means an electric bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling and that ceases to provide assistance when the electric bicycle reaches the speed of 28 miles per hour.
The law further regulates the operation of electric bikes under Section 316.20655, but that regulation has nothing to do with what qualifies as an e-bike.
Reference: www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0316/0316.html
If you are arguing that EVERY 60V bike exceeds 750W, therefore they fail to comply with the laws of the state of Florida (or any of the other states), I'd suggest otherwise.
@@alwaysplaythegame I can't find any state that regulates e-bikes by voltage. What state do you live in???
So at 40mp, that's what, like 15 miles of range, or some shit?
There's just not enough battery capacity on that bike.
I don't dig the wood trim either. I can see why some people might, but that would look better as faux carbon fiber, or matte black, or something
They are 3k right now
So class 3 ebike is supposed to go 40 km/h...
If this thing had an 80 amp hour battery i would be down. Battery way too small for this thing. I need a min of 4kw hours to even consider.
LOL 80? 32 WOULD BE GREAT MAYBE 40
i upped ECO mode on mine to 28mph and im seeing close to 45mi range
@@Hakuonu I'm gonna build an ebike in a couple of months that can go 35mph for 70 miles or 45 mph for 40 miles. 72v40ah(2.88kwh) battery on Amazon is 800 bucks. Gonna turn a Schwinn Axum into a 2000w(3300w peak) ebike with good range. Cost for bike/battery/motor kit is 1500 bucks. Between added accessories and safety gear about 1800 bucks.
Cty2 is better overall minus the top speed.
Don't you have to stop at stop signs???
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like it but would not buy it they don't have a store in Canada and don't want to pay the customs fee
e-Bikes cross the USA border without CAN duties, you will only pay Provincial sales taxes on the stated value converted to $ CAN.
Duty free under section 8711.60.00.00 Electric Bicycle with electric motor.
ONYX shipping to the northern states is cheap about $50 USD, then deal with a third party broker like 'shippsy' to bring it across, maybe $100.00 CAN.
You will need to pick it up at a Canadian 'shippsy' warehouse as the box is too big and heavy to re-ship from there to a home address, you can do that but it will be expensive.
'Shippsy' has warehouses in Ontario and BC.
Otherwise, you can order it in Canada from 'Vintage Iron Cycles' but they will mark up the price about $500 CAN more than ordering it direct from ONYX and bringing it across the border yourself, as described.
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To rich for my blood but with this gas rescheme this could turn into a bargain! LOL.
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No the looks are just not that great....I'm into the RCR look. Yup maybe the 60 volt batteries will become more common. The 52 volt x 2 in the more affordable scrambler 2 seem like a great deal....I also like the wheels on the Scrambler 2. Bit more forward thinking.
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The pass through ruins it for me
But I’m old and pass through have always been considered girls bike to me
So you definitely wouldn't be caught dead on, e.g., a Vespa?
I think of it more as a moped than like a "girl's bike" from the 80s.
@@cacogenicist correct
Don’t care for the moped look either
Would prefer a motorcycle at that point
I would perfer the step through over the non step through frame because I think they are ugly,which i think almost all ebikes are ugly.
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