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- Boros is someone who most of the One Punch Man fandom agrees sits high up on the food chain. But where he scales exactly is a relatively hot topic, and today, I'm here to give You one of the most bombastic takes on his power!
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One-Punch Man (Japanese: ワンパンマン, Hepburn: Wanpanman) is a Japanese superhero manga series created by One. It tells the story of Saitama, a superhero who, because he can defeat any opponent with a single punch, grows bored from a lack of challenge. One wrote the original webcomic manga version in early 2009.
A digital manga remake, illustrated by Yusuke Murata, began publication on Shueisha's Tonari no Young Jump website in June 2012. Its chapters are periodically compiled and published into individual tankōbon volumes. As of November 2022, 27 volumes have been released. In North America, Viz Media has licensed the remake manga for English language release and has serialized it in its Weekly Shonen Jump digital magazine.
An anime adaptation produced by Madhouse was broadcast in Japan from October to December 2015. A second season, produced by J.C.Staff, was broadcast from April to July 2019. A third season has been announced. Licensed in North America by Viz Media, it premiered in the United States on Adult Swim's Toonami programming block in July 2016. The second season premiered on the block in October 2019.
By June 2012, the original webcomic manga surpassed 7.9 million hits. By April 2020, the manga remake had sold over 30 million copies worldwide, making it one of the best-selling manga series of all time.
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OHHH NO! It appears I have been split from the community!
Anyway, great video, Satori. I don't agree with the latter half of it at all! Have a nice rest of your day!
You sound very unlikeable
XD I love this comment
You talk like a very "fake" person
@@G4M3R1R0N fax
@@G4M3R1R0N if you say so bro.
Since boros is alive i hope he will return to top tiers again beside saitama
You're like one of the few people who at least has some understanding of Boros' power, the Boros downplay I've seen is absolutely insane and makes me disappointed in people sometimes, also Saitama's BKI(Bodily Kinesthetic Intelligence) is insanely impressive
Another Random W on the internet
yesssir
@@samueljetstreamrodrigues1864 lol
I’m for this point of view hon
Hey man, amazing video and very clever reasoning, if you gona do Boros vs Monster Garou, can you use animation of their fight from AniMatt channel, if it is possible of course, cause it is the best recreation of how their fight should go.
Welp, I guess that another benefit to waking up so early, that being I’m technically not 2 days late to the video lol. I personally don’t agree with star level or above, as it could have just been Blast portal covering the background rather than the serious punch square destroying those stars, and even if the serious punch square did destroy those stars, it doesn’t seem consistent with what we see later in the fight, with Garou after powering up, being dumbfounded by Saitama sneezing away the surface of Jupiter. If both of them can destroy multiple stars(which average out to being several times the size of Jupiter), then that feat shouldn’t be impressive at all. In my opinion, Saitama serious punch prior to their exponential growth is large planet level(as I think it fair to say Saitama serious punch prior to their exponential growth could completely destroy Neptune), making Boros CSRC earth destroying level. I prefer staying conservative with my power scaling/estimations, and I often use Occam razor, as it questionable whether or not One and Murata put any more thought into it than that. I should also clarify that I measure attack potency based on how powerful just 1 attack is, rather than how powerful multiple attacks combined are.
Saitama saying Boros is strong is because he survives multiple hits that usually kill monsters in one shot. When saitama broke the power binder Boros was wearing, Boros still got up, which surprised Saitama. Plus, Saitama was just filling Boros' thirst for a good fight. He tried ending it immediately but when he didn't go down, Saitama humoured him. Tatsumaki couldn't lift Boros' ship because he was in it. As well as another strong force (Geryuganshoop) who was one shot by Saitama.
I'll have an argument against this line of thinking later,cuz it is a ridiculously big wank in my eyes,and I'll explain it later,but for now,I'd say that the video itself was interesting and good as usual
And Boros can be stronger later than in the time he fought Saitama,cuz he is alive in the webcomic and I can't wait what will happen next
MY GOAT SATORI!🙌
saitama gets stronger throughout the series lol
You know what I would love to watch, a compilation of every time saitama showed signs of being a genius. Like calculating his jump from the moon and realising garou wants world peace
The Boros downplay I see sometimes is bonkers💀 I saw some guy say battle beast from invincible MID DIFFS him.
I can't really comment on that since I haven't seen Incincible
Battle beast could definitely give him a good fight but the second Boros goes Meteoric it’s over
Mid diff is generous to be honest
I think Boros can defeat all invincible verses one Vs one
@@onmyown9552battle beast really can’t do anything to boros
Boros is now the fourth most powerful monster, right behind Cosmic Fear Garou, Empty Void and God.
Tf you mean he neg diffs god
Blast😐
Blast's friends😐
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot Blast isn’t a monster and I don’t think we’ll properly meet. Blast’s friends until the very end of the series but God still is the most powerful monster.
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot “monster”
But his charisma and fight spirit always the first💪🔥
Nah don't worry your credibility is maintained im a huge boros fan
yes
Goat opinion
One small issue I have placed a land mine in an undisclosed location inside your house every step you take is a risky move?
(This is a joke this is a good option)
@@kriptonitegamer777 nah I'd survive 😉
Famous last words
Ive been saying boros is large star to large star level plus for years now I'm legit crying , tysm for covering this 😭😭😭
fr people be calling me crazy for that, who laughing now
and boros is still alive
Technically he isn’t. His body regenerated, sure, but his brain was dead
@@TheInvertedBox And? That doesn’t mean their consciousness is back.
@@TheInvertedBoxI guess OPM world doesn't have the souls and spirits Concept
@@orochieditzz lol ya
Thing about the roaring star cannon is that, if I understood correctly, it uses up all of Boros' remaining energy (as he states directly and also explains why he couldnt regenerate after firing it). This means to me that whatever the limit of the destructive power of that attack is, is also the limit of Boros' destructive potential simply because he literally uses all of his energy into it.
The thing is, for one, even if that was the limit of Boros' destructive capacity, it wouldn't limit his attack potency. And secondly, characters in anime can often just regulate how much their blasts destroy. In Dragon Ball, Saiyan Saga characters can blow up planets, and then blasts from people like Cell way later on only destroy some rocks when they hit the ground. Even though they contain much more energy, the character limits the destruction. For an example directly from One Punch Man, take Genos. In one of his earliest forms he blows up art of a mountain. Then in his most recent from he can kill Dragon Level monsters with blasts that are much less destructive, but much more powerful than blasts from that early Genos.
@@SatorisYTI think he means if he uses 50 percent of his energy before the cannon he can only put the last 50 percent of his energy into the cannon at max as that’s only what he has left
Yeah the direct quote from the manga is that “I’ll release all of my power and wipe you out together with this planets surface” which very much implies that all of boros’ power is able to wipe out the surface of the planet
Completely agree, how would Boros be beyond planetary in his released form when he needed to power up, yell out for his greatest final attack and use all of his energy on a planetary attack? I swear, people watch too much anime and start thinking destroying a planet is as easy as popping a baloon.
@@See_Saad fr like there’s no problem with trying to power scaling and stuff but like- it always ends up ignoring what happens in the actual story
While I may not great with everything in this video, I wanted to point out how when Saitama first punch Boros, he knocks him into one pillar of his room.
Later on, Boros punches Saitama through one pillar, then knocks him into the second one, which would mean that Boros’ punch would be stronger than Saitama’s first punch.
For anyone confused when he says "boros scales to saitama" he means boros scaling to saitama when saitama is only using a certain amount of power!!!! So if saitama is using like 0.0004% of his power (1/2400) then boros scales to that, and whether or not that 0.0004% scales to planetary, galaxy, or multi-continental, boros also scales to that!!!
Side note: this is only for the people who dont understand, or comprehend simple fucking english
You know, I believed that Boros could've survived the Serious Punch IF he didn't used the CSRC. That way, he could have regenerate with the unused energy reserves.
That is more than likely true
So if Saitama ends up being outerversal at the end of the series, Boros will also be outerversal😉
lol
Your reasoning makes some sense hahaha, but honestly I don't care how strong boros is, he's one of the best characters in this series, even the author knows that, and that's why (SPOILER ALERT) seeing the recent chapters of the webcomic we know that boros is coming back some time later in the story, at least I hope so.
“A human is formidable enough to lift a 5 kg dumbbell, that doesn’t mean that they can’t lift more”, I WISH I could lift more.
lol
Well technically, every character faster than light is logically planet level or higher.
But we're talking about an anime verse and their physics, not real life physics.
Just look at dragonball for example, if you try to bring in real life physics then the characters arent all that, because they arent destroying planets with every attack, but inverse scaling puts most db characters above universal.
This is i find your scaling is pretty crazy, but it's atleast consistent in comparison tonother youtubers
So Satorid does this Mean Boros Is stronger than Lord Frieza from Namik considering the Face you’ve watched all of Dragon and knows how powerful he truly is! And powerful would he be in One punch man! And his Threat Level! And what he be in Smarter more Powerful and Evil Verson of Boros in One Punch Man?
With this scaling, yeah, I think Boros is stronger than Frieza from the Namek Saga. But Frieza IA still easily a God level threat, he would beat anyone below Boros without any difficulty IMO.
Also, none of this is mentioning he survived the direct shock wave of the serious punch (If you take the webcomic as canon)
he's dead actually, only his body is there slowly regenerating.
So he's not dead@@only_dream_is_2d
@@only_dream_is_2dso either he’s not dead, or his regeneration is also full ressurection, granting him low godly regen. I doubt that so im gonna go with him barely surviving it
@@only_dream_is_2d that's basicaly what surviving mean
It regenerated his body and brain his brain is just not active if I turn off my computer the data and everything is still there but just not active
Cosmic Garou stated on Io that Saitama was "completely unfazed" while Boros said that he "barely fazed" him. Barely fazed > Completely unfazed so Boros is stronger than Cosmic Garou copying full power Saitama and it's literally confirmed😮
Saitama was way stronger against cosmic garou since he grew but if your joking then I completely agree with u
that seems a bit far fetched but i can see where ur coming from
That statement is strange and your opinion is absurd, so I don't believe that
@@sonteguh when we are scaling Boros in Satori's channel, nothing is absurd😉
@@gio.gionosakan It doesn't make sense in my opinion because boros got one shotted by saitama's one serious punch while cosmic garou copies saitama's serious punch and they both trade blows with that attack
Boros can destroy the planet which contains city Z. City Z is stated to be 58 billion kilometers in size which means any planet level feat in OPM = solar system feat
When is that stated?
@SatorisYT it wasn't stated at all but a guy named darkstudios90 measured it using one of the manga chapters. I think the video is called "scaling OPM accurately." He went from scaling saitama to multi solar system in the beginning, but then scaled him to multiversal-low outerversal in the end.
@@BrandonLeonard-v6fand you took that as fact just because some guy on TH-cam scaled something which isn't being confirmed by the author or the artist.. you need help if you truly believe Saitama is multiversal or outerversal when none of his feats are even solar system level or solar system level so far.
@@lexogun1311 the serious punch is definitely solar system level now, given the serious punch squared. I would need more info to say he is outerversal but solar system level is a low-ball for saitama at this point.
@lexogun1311 what would you expect from opm fanboys, they exaggerate everything
See
I wanna disagree but considering the things that recently happened in the webcomic, recent stuff in the manga and all the upscaling in general in the series...
I have a feeling even if people disagree now the future is gonna prove you right.
Top ten monsters In the manga Contunity
1.Garou
2. Boros
3. Psykos
4. Evil ocean water
5. Sage
6. Orochi
7. Cruel dragon
8. Gouketsu
9. Platinum
10. Rover
Sage >= Psykos
Platinum Sperm > Orochi and Goketsu
@@n-sedit4133 lol Platinum is a bum with pillow hands. His presence in the manga was laughable. Webcomic Golden S>>>
Genos didn't mention anything noteworthy about his aura either.
The only person he singled out was Garou who he stated was emitting extremely high energy waves but he never said it was anything like Saitama's, infact he accredited it to kings "wave motion cannon." Genos believed King was only a small fraction of what was needed to defeat Gouketsu.
Gouketsu is undoubtedly above that Garou who is in turn above Platinum. And Orochi is above Gouketsu by his own admission
How does platinum s scale below his webcomic counterpart? Nonsense. The same genos who doubted if Saitama could beat gouketsu? Yeah sure.@@breakingbread9313
@@Jesko.
Spoilers if your not up to date with the webcomic
His presence in the manga was a lot smaller than webcomic Golden S even if he did less. He's mid. Genos doubting Saitama is just a testament to how utterly overwhelming Gouketsu's power must have been. It was vast enough to question everything he had seen Saitama do up until that point. The only three individuals that went outside Genos' ability to measure them were Saitama,Psykos Orochi,Gouketsu and Boros. Gouketsu is definitely the strongest dragon that's not confirmed to be an "above dragon"
Goketsu wankers strike back
People keep saying csrc kills my goat Boros but it doesn't he just died because he used all his remaining energy on that attack (also I've heard csrc is 19% of serious punch I'm not sure if that's true or if its talking about the version he used in the fight which would've been weaker) Boros also could've regenerated from that punch if he had the energy too
There is actually a Boros powerscaling video even older then yours Satori made by Kristian Kember. It's older posted on 2022 so he has slightly different methods then yours and he delves more into the calculation parts and calculating how much a multiplier amp Boros's transformations give him. Interesting enough he still gets Meteoric Burst Boros and Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon to star tier just like you did.
@@thorshammer7883 I am aware, I even used a couple of his arguments in my own "How Strong is Boros" video (:
@@SatorisYT
Neat, what are your thoughts on the multipliers he put Boros' transformations in the stats categories?
Me personally, since Boros's speed should be fast enough to surprise Saitama and that's more impressive than Flashy Flash I think Boros speed should be faster then 6.1x the speed of light.
@@thorshammer7883 I definitely think the speed for Released Boros was really lowballed. For the actual multiplier though, I don't remember exactly what arguments he used, but I do know I dissagreed a bit.
Boros is the GOAT !
FR
Gargoyle Garou enjoyers are not winning today.
But seriously a lot of people think that MB Boros would beat GG in a High Diff battle (or the other way around), bro it’s neg-no diff in Boros’ favor if I’m being nice.
Nah, Gargoyle Garou high diff
@@poomipatlurkudom3883 💀
We have one that wad almost a real fight fir Saitama and one that went out in a punch where Saitama looks indifferent.
Also the punches used on both are incomparable, especially if you look at how detailed and Serious Saitama looks when compared to Boros vs when compared to Garou
Also Boros Surprised Saitama with Speed alone, a feat only done by initial Cosmic Garou
Now just imagine the Boros from If Boros turned good that trained with intencion to be stronger And catch up to Saitama while the og Boros was probably more or less just naturally Born to be this powerful. 💥
Em so hay guys i am murata and boros has inf speed and streanth he lost beacause saitama is boundless i hope my word is more important than saitamas
1:18 ya i used to think this
0:28 spoiler lol eagle eye
Personally I think boros in a hypothetical cosmic form could defeat Saitama now I’m not saying he wins easily but he has a chance to win
Im so tired of the boros downplay, armored boros alone is brown dwarf level and MB is arguably multi-ss-galaxy
Sorry bro, its different w/ other series but the running joke in OPM is that what people think and say about other people power levels is completely unreliable. There are 2 whole characters including the MC dedicated to this concept.
Boros vs COSMIC FEAR GAROU. Do it!
Boros vs Monster Garou would be better, there is even animation about this, you can watch it, so epic
Boros gets cooked. Monster ver is a great fight tho, Boros prob wins that one
Boros would lose to cosmic garou but he will destroy any other version of him in seconds
Cosmic Garou would beat him, but Boros destroys all other forms of Garou
Meteoric burst is literally stated by Murata to be on initial CFG level. And obviously then Garou winds because he is cheating
I completely agree with you Satori, wholeheartedly. Now... I wonder how much Higher Boros from the What If series would scale...
12:28 lol
Sorry but its too subjective, with too many things to consider ill always take the low balls so it stays as subjective as possible, though I agree with what you say as more of a highball. In my eyes I dont think that there is any absolute proof for him being above Star only because the statements could have countless meanings, for example Saitama calling it "Almost a real fight" could suggest that he can survive countless normal punches, but i'm still not going to say you're wrong just that the way you're doing it is more of a highball
The thing is, the name “serious punch” suggests that saitama only got actually serious about the fight and actually tried for 1 punch worth of time. Thats all it took.
Scaling through mostly monologs is crazy 😂. Sure you can argue that Boros is slightly comparable to suppressed Saitama but you can't really put a number on this and you didn't which is proof that you reallt don't have much of a case here. Whatever fraction of relativity at this point that you assign between Boros and suppressed Saitama becomes completely subjective and head canon which varias from person to person and is not "concrete" in the slightest. Bad take overall imo.
I believe the manga multi continental statement is just retconned by the anime as ONE have said that he himself read whole of the anime script in order for it to be an extension of Original Work and confirmed that anime have changes
Anyways nice vid satori, keep up the good work
BOROS IS THE 🐐 OF OPM
3:50 If you have Tatsumaki over Saitama, then how did Saitama contend with Boros?
Just seens inconsistent here, since we know Tatsumaki ISN'T stronger than Saitama, so I can't honestly believe you actually think this.
@@ladonmccabe She's above a supressed Saitama that fought Orochi. Not full power Saitama.
3:39 rar lol
Firstly, it seems rather strange for Boros to state longer, more concrete "blowing up planet surface" than blowing up planet if he can do far more with his ultimate attack, especially seeing how excited he was during his fight with Saitama, if it is not what's going to happen why say it? Also if excerted all of his "galaxy scale energy" wouldn't arragont character say at least with your star system or something else. And don't say AP is not damage capacity. If he can easily dispatch numerous galaxy level attacks why would he limit his energy output so much, why would he limit his most powerful attack against the strongest foe so much?
Secondly, Saitama can say Boros is strong because how many attacks of different power Boros has survived, not because he felt something. And "this is almost a real fight" can be said as a joke that Boros survived multiple attacks, so for Saitama it is almost a real fight and not just one punch knockdown. And he can say to genos that boros is strong because only very strong character can survive several punches from him and so he is somewhat impressed for one day before he forgets about the boros entirely.
Thirdly, psykorochi best fit is multi continental, why would she not go all out against Tatsumaki, who she hates so much. Maybe Orochi's small planet feat is not consistent with other feats and statemants? And other one-shot above statements just sounds fake. Monsters are arrogant always thinking they are stronger than anyone else with few exceptions (mainly king), so of course psykorochi thinks she can defeat saitama. And so on.
But Boros is still probably high planetary - low large planetary
I’ve always thought the one pinch man characters were this strong. But when I got more in depth I’m like “oh, I guess not”. Now it’s more like how I originally saw the characters with this new power scaling
same, like people called me crazy, whos laughing now huh, not you "alpha gerald 1762".
Yeah boros survive many blows from sairama
2:59 Isn't his Gaia canon the sucking force reversed? The attack is basicly spitting what he sucked.
It's him taking that power in and amping himself with it IMO.
I think a big thing you misssed when going over the damaging Saitama part is that Right afterwards, Boros states “you, on the other hand, will only get injured *more*” I don’t see why he’d say this if he didn’t outright hurt Saitama nor why The writers would add this for no reason. Boros definitely harmed Saitama in my eyes. Furthermore, if Boros was an “almost a real fight” yet can’t damage Saitama, how was it “almost a real fight”? you’d think Boros can do something at least. (Also, the scene and wall of fire looks a lot like Saitama’s dream against the underground ppl where they harmed him, might have been accidental but perhaps it was a nod)
@@Ultima_67 I did mention that line in the first "How Strong is Boros" video, but yeah, good catch 👍
Oh and I forgot to mention, Saitama didn’t use a “serious person punch” he said “serious, serious, serious punch” and had to swing his whole body to stop it, sooooo 3x?
Goat
i think satori really likes boros😳😳
but idk just my opinion
Oooooooooooo❤
thanks for the boros respect in this video people really down play him for some reason
It is 12 am in my country and u uploaded
Apologies, time zones are unfortunate 😔
just move to a different time zone bruh
Satori cooked (boros >>>>>> pre cosmic garou)
I always argued with people that Boros was actually a bit of a fight for Saitama strictly on the fact that prior to Cosmic Garou Saitama only ever recognized Boros power calling him strong MORE than once.
I 1000% agree with this Boros scale. I’m so glad your view on Boros damaging Saitama has changed because I didn’t agree with that. I wish you covered on Boros speed though. I watched Kristian Kembers video on Boros scaling which I agree with most of it. Just find it hard to believe he says Released Boros is only 9x the SOL. Wanted to hear your opinion on Boros speed. I’m sure that Boros vs Gargoyle Garou video will go in depth with that anyway. Amazing video Satori.
Released Boros' speed should scale at bare minimum to Gargoyle Garou
Released Boros' speed should scale at bare minimum to Gargoyle Garou
Boros puts MHA 12 feet under in possibly his armored state.
Why MHA specifically? 😅
Boros been getting downgraded lately. Some MHA fans put Deku, Shigaraki above him @@SatorisYT
@@entity.x as per usual no brainer toxic fan of mha, comparing at least star lv being to max output city lv being
@@albertoluis1544bro the dude you responded to is disagreeing with that claim, he’s just telling satori what the MHA fans are doing
Boros in his armored state will destroy the MHA verse without even trying
WE WON BABY ANOTHER DAY ANOTHER DUB FOR THE GOAT BOROS
Cool and all but i think saitama before cosmic garou is multi solar system so all said and done boros is still star level 😂
Multi-solar system divided by a couple thousand times is still solar system level. And if You think Saitama at that point is mid to high multi-solar, then Boros is multi-solar system level too.
@SatorisYT I'm basing it off the serious punch² feat, do we have a way of quantifying how many stars were destroyed?
If not then I just kinda assume it's something like 100-1000+ stars (Large range I know) and if Saitama is half of that cause of Garou also being there, and Boros is anywhere from 1/2400 to 1/5 as strong, well I guess if we go by the high end he is the solar system, but again do we have a way to count the number of stars destroyed 🤔 (Seriously, do we?)
@@Neo-925 It's not really about the number of stars destroyed, it's about the scale of the blast. What makes multi-solar system level feats so impressive is that the blast reaches from one solar system to another while maintaining enough energy to destroy it. The distances between stars are absolutely insane. Think of the level needed to destroy one city vs several cities. The explosion has to cover an enormous distance to reach multiple cities. Now imagine this in cosmic proportions, with the blast needing to cover an omnidirectional radius of several light years.
This is why multi-solar system level is not just twice as powerful as star level, it's exponentially higher, millions of times higher.
@SatorisYT I suppose that's fair I'm willing to concede that the roaring cannon is on that level, and meteoric burst/ Released are just unquantifiably lower
Idk about this one but atp Ive invested too much in boros stocks so i'll take it🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The answer is yes.
Regarding Saitama calling it a real fight;
In my opinion it was more the fact he never saw anyone last as long as they did when they fought. But despite that, Saitama still took Boros out with a single punch when it came down to it. I don't think Boros did any damage. And if Saitama didn't feel anything against someone who's Planetary - Galaxy level, then obviously Saitama is far above that.
I think 4 armed Gargoyle Garou and Meteoric Burst Boros are pretty even.
Garou has better regeneration, better durabilty, better adaptability, obviously waaay better hand to hand fighting ability, he's just slightly less powerful and slightly slower.
Gargoyle Garou ate 2 handed Consecutive Normal Punches and kept it pushing while Boros exploded into jelly after 1 handed Consecutive Normal Punches.
Why doesn't anyone use the meteor feat of it being a 6-9 on the torino scale, 9 being able to AFFECT not destroy but affect multiple continents and could bring a ice age, if we say it was a 9 than a single city is multi-continental, city z being destroyed from the impact and some of the other cities surrounding it being affected, not all but some, this means the earth is massively bigger than ours as if a 9 hit us multiple continents would be affected, not destroyed but affected
60 times galaxy boros is crazy
EV gonna be 60th dimensional
I personally think saitama before his exponential growth is galaxy level and by the end is low universal, but the reverse causality likely undid that growth. As for boros, I'd say the gap is an average person compared to peak human, which is a 150x gap. While this is definitely a highball, it isn't too outlandish to assume these things
Psy-Orochi may have been factoring in the absorption of more energy before fighting Saitama, so that fuses one of the links in the chain, here.
That the guide translates planet and star separately does not mean the latter in inherently accurate, if the anime guide is even accurate to begin with since Geryuganshoop seems to have power beyond what Murata believed he could accomplished in that continuity.
Most manga in the weekly release have chapters statements. To my knowledge it is not known for certain who writes them. For Naruto, for example, they are usually taken as accurate, suggesting Kishimoto approves them. I am less certain for One-Punch Man. I would say that ONE might have just changed his mind on how far above Saitama is, though.
Saitama is some degree stronger when he fights Monster Garō than when he fought Boros. According to the Audio Dramas, he thinks he should be always able to defeat himself from yesterday (though the exponential graph brings this into question).
Also if anyone is gonna try to calculate cosmic boros or saitama, I did some rough estimations for the multiplier at a low end. I decided to say monster garou before the cosmic form was moon level and assumed god made him galaxy level. If that's true, that means the form is about a 1.79x10^38 times more powerful, or 179 undecillion times. However, I could be wrong, so let me know what you think in my comments
Not sure how to say it but I agree to some degree.
That u could scale Boros somewhat relatively to Saitama, in base.
Saitama's highest ups in scaling are when he is serious and heavily growing through a burst of emotions and an actual serious fight.
So I wouldnt rlly say that Boros is Galaxy level if u think Saitama is at his peak. Since in their fight Saitama was nor going through shit nor was he being serious.
For the inner monologue he had on the moon, its truly remarkable indeed.
But I would rather compare it to me arm wrestling my lil brother and noticing he getting slightly stronger and acknowledging that, but still no-diff afterwards. If this makes sense....
Either way I place him multi-planetary/sun scale wise.
Thank you for the video Satori. :)
The problem with the Cosmic Void situation is that it does not line up at all with later feats if you take it at face value. Consider Saitama's serious table flip being calced at Large Planet Level. If you assume that the Serious Punch Squared is literal (mainly the squaring part), you need the square root of the force generated by the attack, which comes out to Small Star Level, much more in line with later feats, but still a tier above the serious table flip.
For some math. I found a calc putting the serious punch squared at 200 RonnaFoe, which is Multi-Galaxy like mentioned in the video. Taking the square root of that number gave ~69 (nice) Quettatons of TNT, putting the feat in the middle of Small Star Level.
I can see the argument for Boros being Star Level with the guidebook statement, but any higher just doesn't make sense. I personally put him comfortably at Planet Level, with the only arguments putting him above this being the previously mentioned guidebook statement and vaguely scaling to Saitama and wanking him with the Cosmic Void outlier, which I already did my best to debunk.
Saitama and garou scale to the serious punch squared even if the attack was their strength squared bc they were at the center of the attack when it was redirected meaning they took the blunt force from the attack, so they would scale to or to a fraction of the serious punch squared in dura and then they proceeded to damage each other afterwards scaling their ap to that as well.
Yeah arguing the SP^2 is literally squaring their AP and not just a cool hame ignores the fact that they punched each other with that force, they both took that punch and didn’t take serious damage on their arms, then were able to deal damage later. Either that, or they somehow can have hax that square their AP which they can just use and then arbitrarily have squared durability and then both get shot back down for no reason at all.
if boros CSRC is star lvl then serious punch squared is like universal what
i agree about the initial scaling (not the same way you scaled it tho , that scaling just seems to me like you pick and choose specific stuff that works for your argument instead of looking overall)
according to statements (the csrc star level one) released boros is pretty much planetary or planetary-large planetary and csrc is star level (as you said , it doesnt put a cap on it but i doubt they made it to be above star level. this just falls into opinions mostly so im just gonna say its star level since there isnt much else to go off of).
also if we only go off of feats in the manga (as far as i have seen atleast) he punches saitama and obliterates a huge part of his ship (wich is above the moon jump) that would put him from multi con-moon to small planet-planet. this is just going off of whats shown but i doubt thats what they wanted it to be.
i disagree with how you initially scaled him and how you scaled him later honestly
saitama had to be holding back somewhat or there wouldnt even be a boros fight. this could range from either saitama relating to boros on his struggles , saitama thinking this could be the fight he was looking for or both.
at this point nothing is concrete evidence because we are just making stuff up from how people act and react.
i also heavily disagree with boros damaging saitama because cosmic garou couldnt do that. expecting boros to do that is just ridiculous.
boros does keep up with , react to and trade blows with saitama but thats a saitama that is taking the situation seriously but also being somewhat casual (again , a serious saitama would probably end the fight instantly).
he does call boros strong but compared to all the people he fought before (and also most if not all others up until the cosmic garou part) boros was stronger by a huge margine. he is considerably stronger then even the ones after in the ma arc.
it is expected for saitama to think he is strong and that this is almost a real battle when he is stronger than almost anyone else while also being able to keep up with a somewhat casual but still serious saitama.
i like your content and i dont hate boros or anything but through most of this video i just saw a lot of cases were you acted kinda biased , not really talking about other cases that are as reliable as the others and saying statements like "planet surface" thing while taking inverse unreliable statements as truth.
once again , i just think you are biased (most people are biased in some way about some things , i am no different in this case). i still like the videos you make and i still enjoy them , this is just how i see it.
It seems to me that the scaling system, which is used almost everywhere, including this video, is perceived by many and me a little incorrectly (in a different way). For example, when I hear "Planetary Level of AP", I initially think: "So this character can destroy the planet (or something like that)." But it actually means something else.: this is just a symbol of the energy / / forces available to the character. This system is good for comparing and categorizing characters, but it is difficult to perceive the powers of the characters (for example, Saitama (in the end of fight against Cosmic Fear Garou) is credited with " Galaxy - Multy galaxy level", but in reality he cannot destroy the galaxy in any way).
It's the same with Boros, he can have (in his Meteoric Burst form) " Panetary level of AP" of higher, why not?, but this does not mean that he can destroy the planet.
It's the same with his last attack. When I heard that it was being scaled to "Star level", at first I think: " What? It is totally wrong! How he can destroy the star?", but then everything fell into place. PERSONALLY, I (THIS IS JUST MY OPINION, PLEASE DO NOT SCOLD ME) believe that at best, this attack will be able to destroy half of the planet, or something like that. (In any case, this is the end of humanity). No one has OFFICIAL proofs that this attack is capable of destroying a star and so on.
Personally, I pretty very disagree with author (but author itself said earlier, that he is impressed by Boros and is generous to him). MB Boros only almost comparable to pre serious Saitama (Saitama much durable and stronger than alien). Anyway,I think it doesn't matter how destructive this latest attack is, or how it scales. It is ALMOST (99%) equal to a Serious punch. IT'S INCREDIBLE! NO ONE, besides Cosmic Garou (THE GOD'S AVATAR), Blast (THE GOD'S SEALER) and Saitama (THE STRONGEST) can't surpass this.
I like your channel ( altough i don't agree with a lot), especially your analytical videos and your videos "What if Boros becomes good?" (How good they are, I'm looking forward to the new season) . Personally, I was very skeptical about your video " How strong is Boros? ", where you quite clearly compared Boros with Garou (that's why I was angry, because to say that GAROU's MONSTER IN PEAK FORM IS WEAKER THAN THE RELEASED BOROS, it's honestly ridiculous, I just burned out from that). But it allowed me to look at the problem from a different angle and I partially changed my mind.
Bro never cook again
Not everything put in a manga is written for the sake of power scaling. If you think of the writers intentions for things it could give more clarity to the characters power. Saitama might have thought "this is almost a real fight" because he was on the moon which he had never experienced before, and he was depressed and really wanted a real fight so he might try to convince himself it is. The writers intention in having Saitama think this is to generate excitement for the ongoing fight, not to scale boros to Saitama. That's why Saitama specifically thought "almost". They go back on this scaling at the end when Boros said it wasn't a fight at all, Saitama never really tried, and it was a one sided slaughter. This statement makes much more sense for the authors intention to be used as scaling, as the fight is already over, and it gives clarification to questioning of the power levels they had to create for the purpose of suspense and hype.
Also, I think it's more complicated than %'s. If Saitama is 4D or whatever I don't think that automatically makes boros 4D. Part of Saitama's power is his growth and removed limiter, allowing him to do basically anything. He's still a three dimensional being just with four dimensional capabilities. There's not some greater aspect of Saitama that boros couldn't touch by nature of Saitama being 4D. And if there is, we could consider that his growth or removed limiter, which boros cannot compare to in the slightest. If Saitama were to "utilize" this "4D" side of his power, we would see that Boros truly never stood the slightest chance against Saitama, as his power isn't just his stagnant power in that moment, and that boros isn't relative to that in any way. Most arguments for Saitama being 4d are him grabbing hyperspace gates and stuff, which I don't think boros would be able to do.
I'm not saying you're wrong or disagreeing with you. I just like the discussion. I think it would be cool for boros to come back and beat the crap out of a cosmic entity
Boro's intent was blasting the surface off the planet, and it's destructive capacity is enough to obliterate a planet/star, so his Collapsing star roaring cannon is enough to be called a God level threat.
Boros: "Casualy performs a genocide on City A instead of saying hello"
Some fans: Saitama wanted to be nice to him that's why he said he was strong
That's actualy what's going on in boros debate as one of actual points and it is holarious lmao
My thing is when boros was looking for strong fighter's before arriving to earth how did he not come accross those guys that were with blast one of them looked similar to boros and casually blocks a attack that could've destroyed the earth making me question if he was the strongest as he claimed.
Geeky calculations and rant (Aka why i agree with you):
Yeah, Even if you do a most probable situation via purposeful lowballing to get a minimum at the least. You'd still get much further beyond star lvl.
Lets for now assume the serious punch^2 is Multi-Solar System lvl. We can reason this for lowball using light pollution as our reasoning to indicate galaxies will likely not be visible, forcing us to only focus on nearest stars, which is sub-500 light years.
Given this Multi-Solar System Scaling of Serious Punch^2.
Even if we use only visible stars of 2000 stars. We take the square root of this for just Saitama's serious punch for 44.721... stars which we'll just round up to 45 stars visibly destroyed using narrative rather then actual visuals (albeit taking the narrative probably "too literally").
Given that there was a complete absence there. Let's just say it was 45 solar systems worth of energy outputted by both Saitama and Cosmic Garou in that punch, which somehow had a feedback loop multiplicatively (aka we are taking the "serious punch^2" litterally).
(Sidenote: Visibly there was many more stars destroyed given the density of stars in-panel. Indicating the OPM galaxy likely is much more dense OR large then ours using such a in-galaxy reasoning. But, This is me purposely taking the smallest scaling route hence the "purposeful lowball" for minimums)
This makes boros, which had a fifth of that energy using that calculation. Unleash about 9 solar systems worth of energy in his Collapsing Star Roaring Canon MINIMUM.
This would make base Boros be at least Solar System lvl MINIMUM.
Only way we can possibly lowball further is if we were to use some inconsistent fly vs human scaling with it as you mentioned.
In this case... If we use the original unrounded number and divide it by 2400.
We get-
44.72135955/2400=0.01863389981...
Aka closest to 1.86% solar system mass lvl.
And if we take this mass chart:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_mass
You'll find the sun has 99.86% the mass of the solar system.
If we do 100-99.86 we get all planets of the solar system being only 0.14% of the solar system.
This makes the OVERLY LOWBALLED Boros still capable of destroying every planet in the solar system completely overpowering there mass-energy 13 times over.
13 TIMES!
Thats still minimum small star lvl.
Sooo, If we were to lowball serious punch^2 by taking it litterally to inverse operation it, and were realistic with the estimate.
Boros would be Solar System to Multi-Solar System lowballed.
But if we were to take it literally for same application and THEN take your unrealistic fly to human analogy. Then he still would be small star lvl making his collapsing star roaring canon still capable of destroying a solar system (making that one guidebook statement of capability accurate).
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Conclusions:
Given the above lowball information.
If we were to take a middle-line approach.
Boros would be around Small Galaxy lvl base form. Galaxy to Large Galaxy lvl unleashed form. With a Multi-galaxy lvl Collapsing Star Roaring Canon.
And is at bare minimum when lowballing full on. At and beyond solar system level.
Rendering the Multi-Continental to Planetary meta a illogical lowball meta.
Had go edit it because I fudged the words between boros and garous. XD
@@shadow15kryans23I thank you for your effort, today’s a good day to be a Boros fan🎉
@@dontawilliams8433 Yeh np bruh. 😁👍
Stop talking so monotone its annoying
If that's monotone then I sound like a wildlife documentary host.
@@baboin1851 XD
Am I really monotone? The whole "please prove to me" segment is some of the most emotional I've been in a power scaling video. Aside from when I laugh at Sage Centipede.
Doesn't even sound annoying to me. I mean, I'm used to everyday talks
it's weird bc/ boros does much worse than monster garou does against saitama and that garou's strongest attack is multi-continental implying boros is weaker than multi-continental? but saitama praises boros much more than that garou which is very strange lol
I mean, it makes sense for him to be this strong. I feel like people ignore the fact that he's called the Dominator of the Universe😂
Hey your not just called dominator of the universe for nothin
Its funny how Boros downgraders use manga statement to downplay Boros but throw away the anime which is basically retconned version of manga
This vid actually made me happy bc boros is getting recognition of his power I remember when everyone used to make vids about opm people used to downplay boros so bad released boros beats monster garou any day
Satori, outside of manga Saitama is confirmed to have infinite power (which can go in higher dimensions as well via logic). Also stated that serious power is in another dimension of power
So Boros is x2400 weaker than that. Aka at the absolute minimum infinite 4D/5D by feats.
But by narrative/lore Boros can be x2400 less than unbeatable Saitama EOS, the one punch that 1 shots no matter what thus name OPM (against god trust). And because Saitama has that EOS power from chapter 1 which will beat God who is limitless (unlike Saitama whos is dumb, he is at his max "form" rn) it means that Boros transcends the concept of limitlessness to a degree of 1/2400. He reaches the top tier fiction characters and WC Boros could be above him
1/2400th of infinity is still infinity so Boros is uni+ on a low ball😉
@@gio.gionosakan And highball he is not even scalable
Wow, I don't care how controversial this is, great video, and thank you for not downplaying saitama.
This might be a hot take, but I don't think the weekly end notes should be invalid. They're being officially published by the magazine, they make it into the weekly releases. The reason they're taken out of volume releases is because they are no longer in their weekly form and now we get volume statements. They are still officially published by the magazine.
Small planet level suck force is fucking crazy 💀 gotta be chichi and bulma
Hot take. Full power gargoyle garou > Boros. Your videos are great by the way.
I am conflicted by this comment lol
But seriously, thanks! Everyone can have their own takes, no issues with that (:
Do a round 3 but do it about the boros in your story
Edit: THINGS ABOUT TO BLOW UP
10:37
A new video is coming "Cosmic Garou vs Lord Boros" 👍👍 and yes imma say it right now initial version of CG < Released Boros
I mean, CG without copying is pretty featless and unimpressive, he is just arbitrarily stronger than gargoyle garou but still massively below non killing intended saitama
I personally believe Boros is large star level at most since saitama wasn’t blood lusted at all during the fight