3D Printing Metal with the Iro3D Desktop Metal 3D Printer - Solid High Carbon Steel Parts!
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- Metal 3d printing can be prohibitively expensive, but Iro3d is trying to change that with their new desktop metal 3d printer. Metal powders laid layer by layer in a crucible, then fired in a kiln, create a solid metal part!
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That is an incredibly smart way of approaching metal printing, that the metal is put in place and then fused afterwards, rather than being fused as it is deposited, and I am surprised that I have not seen this method of printing before. Very cool. It is also interesting to see that much of it was 3D printed as well :D
wow only 5k. I remember when standard fdm printers were that much. The future is exciting
i wonder what the world of 3d printing will be like in 20 years from now
@@Aleph-Noll I was just thinking the same thing. 3D printers use to be that price 10 years ago, now you can get them for less than 200. Kilns however are old can be and will probably not come down in price, and I don't think you would want them to be a budget item. But $1,000 for what you can do with them isn't that bad.
@@Aleph-Noll organic printers, printers that can print down to the nanometer, and precise enough to print an IC.
oh yeah yeah, can't wait for mass homelessness and bionic nanobot augmentations.
Cody Avant cant wait till you can buy 400 dollar kits on ebay =)
seriously, its the first time in a while ive been really impressed with any 3d Printed related "innovation"! Kudos to the developers of that thing!
This is more 'game changing' than any of the other metal 3D printers that I have seen.
Very cool! Thanks for taking the time to provide us with this first look!
Ingenious way to get a metal parts and not the mess of powder sintering :)
João Romão yes but not with a laser, which is more common.
João Romão yes you are right
This is too cool to have this guy showing it off.
I love that you find and share this sort of thing with us.
Awesome video Joel! Thanks for making this, really like seeing new 3d printing tech.
Although, this isn't the breakthrough product yet, it's a giant step to making this technology available to enthusiast.
There is a lot of room to improve this and I am hyped for it.
My idea- have a hopper system instead of changing to different containers with powder.
This is "real 3D printing" as powder based systems actually print layers unlike a FDM system which print lines.
Is this open source? It would be epic if other companies compete and make improvements.
Interesting take on metal 3D printing, I was expecting a high powered laser to fuse the steel. Great video Joel, I'd love to see more metal printing in the future (and I'm sure I'm not the only one 😄).
Using a high powered laser to fuse metal powder is actually quite an old method. It's called laser sintering.
The tests and things he did with it is impressive, it alo works with glass.
That is a REALLY cool concept for making metal 3D printing. One thing I would love to see them do is maybe use a "burnout" binder for each layer just to make sure that things stay together from the crucible > kiln.
There is no need for "burnout" binder - it's not that gentle. At first I was afraid of it too, but practice showed that it's not a problem. Just don't tilt it intentionally and don't fall while you carry it, and it will be fine.
I can see that, but instead of a binder in the layers, maybe just a cap of a burn out wax or something so you could have multiple crucibles waiting for smaller kilns in case you have multiple projects going at the same time? That way you can move and store them without having to worry about the powder on the inside shifting.
I'm a hobbyist metal worker (I make armor and stuff) and am thinking of ways I might use this and I could see stacking up a few pieces before I fire up my kiln during off peak electrical hours (that sucker is expensive to run. :D ). Taking it up to temp and just pulling one crucible out and placing in another one would save me heat up time and the power consumption that goes with it.
Anyway, just thinking outloud (or thinking out typing? Gah), this printer is really cool and I can see myself having fun with something like it. Great work!
while you can't use them inside, propane powered kilns/ovens are VERY cost effective to operate. I made one using plans from instructables for about $20.00 and to melt 4 lbs of aluminum, it costs about $3.00.
It does get hot enough to melt light gauge steel, (I found out by accident) and I haven't tried any iron, or other ferrous metals though as I don't have a carbon crucible.
One thing with wax is then you'd need a heating element to liquify it during the "printing" process but if you wanted to make hollow parts, to save on your metal powder, you could simply design a drain hole in the bottom so when you fire it, it flows out. The problem though with mixing liquid wax with powder is the powder would get absorbed into the liquid wax.
One issue with propane is that you don't have precise control over the temperature in the kiln. I don't know if this matters when sintering.
Sunny Renton... lol I love the idea of using the kiln the finish the print, it keeps the printer and materials simpler.
Huge thumbs up Joel. That was frigging insane. As a 50 year old, I'm so fortunate to be living through this technological age. We had nothing like this when I was younger. Thanks for taking the time to make and share this video. Cheers, Aaron.
DCTTeacher1 Amazing to consider all that's happened in those 50 years. DIY kit computers like Altair to soon DIY metal printers? Pretty clever what they've done here.
The next 20 years will be wild to the limits of science fiction. I'm not exaggerating.
Oh, I totally agree Kent. It's a great time to be alive isn't it ;-)
Oh, I agree with you Dan 100%. I read a book recently that discusses the "Technology Spike". Technology is advancing at such a high rate we can no longer measure it as the spike is going vertically up on the graph etc... As for science fiction stuff, look at the recent advancement in the Jet Pack technology and people making their own electric 1 man quadcopter in their backyard. Cheers, Aaron.
I don't mean jet packs. I mean warp drive. Workless society. Unbounded AI taking care of us. Absolute material abundance. Open ET contact. Knowledge of our spiritual reality. Supernatural ability. And more.
Joel, I'm sure that when the first 3D printers were made that the quality wasn't near as good as this first metal part is. Folks who may rag on it don't understand what it takes to develop any product much less one as complicated as this one. I really look forward to this technology maturing and being brought to market. Thanks for making this video. Cheers.
Very well explained, Joel! Great idea these guys had, honestly it looks even more interesting than what the guys at DesktopMetal are doing. I'm very interested to see how that machine evolves during the next years.
Yes this could be very interesting.
I have seen DesktopMetals parts and this looks better. And vastly vastly cheaper.
I agree with you and desktop metals is 120k for the printer
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you :P
Great video Joel. At 5k i can see this really being the next step in 3d printing. Custom car shops ect.
Great 3D Printer looking forward to buying one in the near future. Printing in metal WOW
Congrats to these company for using the KISS principal and innovating use to the truly next leveled affordable desktop “metal” 3D printing. Wish I would of thought of that. Hope they have patents to protect there IP so they can make some money at this before others start doing this. Thanks Joel and great job @Iro3D
Super cool Joel! Love the metal printong. A very promising technology that hopefully as the price comes down and makes the process more affordable for the home hobbyist will be able to print everything from door hinges to car parts. Love the videos!
Stop reading my mind 3D Printing Nerd! Actually you need to find more companies like these. I just came from the Diabase video and I thought I'd never be able to afford a printer like this. Two videos in a row where you introduce companies looking to democratize 3d printing in industrial materials? Yep I'm sold on this idea. Subscribed and thanks for showing these kinds of videos.
Hey! Just wait until you see me talk about the FUNMAT HT :)
Thank you very much for showing us!! I think lots of clients will buy this printer, once it is ready.
Very cool video Joel!
I'm impressed by the accuracy with how big the tube the powder was depositing out of! this is really exciting!
This is an incredible start to a whole new dimension in 3D printing! Sure, it ain't completely there - yet. But, what a great start! I can envision that there will soon be many DIY clones out there. One thing that we know from the past few years is that the hobbyists out there will take new ideas and run with the technology. A huge thanks to you Joel for getting this idea out into the community, and to iro3d for this brilliant application. 2018 is going to be awesome year for makers!
This is really cool! I've been waiting for this for a while, and it's finally almost here! As a smith and a 3D printer, this is where I want to go. Lost material casting and silicone molds for some metals are an option, but this is much cooler in my mind!
That's pretty darn cool. I cant wait to see this tech in 10 - 15 years. The metal prints at that point will be pretty amazing if this goes the way of plastics 3d printing.
enjoying the professionalism of your videos. good job.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! 5k is a little out of my price point at the moment but I do already have a kiln. This looks like an awesome new thing. Scaled up a little (lot) and someone like me could print an engine block. One could make their own motorbike or go-cart. That's the type of thing that I've been dreaming of for years.
Ok when the kiln is built into the printer itself, they have themselves a deal. Will deffo get one.
this is so cool. if only i had a place for a furnace. I can see this coming in very handy for prototyping custom engine blocks.
Would you be able to go over the compositions of the metal powders and what their properties are? This sounds really interesting.
Yes. We also have printed copper-iron and copper-nickel. We need to make more videos.
Fantastic video! Very concise and informative.
This is the future. Amazing. Gotta get one.
Did you get one? How is it working for you?
For powder metal sintering, there should be very little or no need for venting. With dry sand, metal powder, and never really bringing it to full molten temperatures, you don't generate much gas in the process.
I'm guessing those are extra material set aside to cater for shrinkage of the model while cooling down.
Constantly blown away by how enabling 3D printing and electronics have enabled the maker and the folks to make manufacturing tools for makers. This machine looks like it could also do other materials - maybe powdered clay for making pottery or ground glass or ground plastic?
This is very interesting. Thanks, Joel.
I can see it now, mechanics and the like printing socket sets etc. i love this tech! thanks for another awesome video mate!
Rural Mods UK
I think we're more likely to use composites for that. I already use my markforged printer to print sockets at work. Not for high torque stuff, but it's in industry today.
Owen Sparks thats awesome to know! thanks for the reply buddy :)
Rural Mods UK
Sure thing.
That's one way to do it. Another is to use the metal powder itself as the support and infill amd sinter each layer with an electron beam aimed with a magnetic field, done in a vacuum and with the bed heated to just below the melting point of the metal. Not exactly a cheap device, but an amazing way to make a part.
Good idea and very detailed
Really would like to see an update. Desktop 3D printing in metal is still very expensive compared to SLA and FDM for plastic which became incredibly cheap, cheaper than an PS5.
Great review Joel, so much ideas.... again;)
Thanks man! That is soooo cool! Love these videos!
As always, very informative. I remember when desktop 3D printers where around that (some still are).
Nice concept, nice prototype, nice video, well done to all involved 😀
I love it.. A little polishing and I have make forming dies over night.
Yes, that's a great idea.
Wow great share Joel I need this machine it's like skipping the middle man keep up the great content always worth the watch
Awesome stuff. Cheers, JAYTEE
Yay, COOL NEW STUFF!
That's amazing. Genius idea
Thats pretty cool and exciting
YES! I LOVE THIS! Now if they can make it smaller and more affordable I am all over it! I have been waiting for a metal printer. 👍🏼
Amazing Joel
A very interesting concept.
good job joel
Very cool. Getting closer and closer to 3D printings holy grail. I wonder if there will be more materials this is usable with.
Oh yes. The 3D printer itself is material agnostic. Once we have sales going, we'll research other materials.
Interesting approach.
LOTS of questions/concerns come to mind...
- Resolution (z; xy)?
- Dimensional accuracy?
- Print times?
- Full start-to-finish times?
- Thin wall limit?
- Cost of operation (materials, kiln, etc.)?
- Max. print volume?
- Strength metrics?
- Range of materials?
- Slicing consideration?
- Degree of post machining required (if any)?
ETC.
Now, I'm sure the Iro3D developers are taking these, and other issues into consideration. And, things are still in the prototyping/testing phase - so, there is much still to learn!
Ganbatte, Iro3D. Ganbatte...
Actually, the printer is now in production. See iro3d website and TH-cam channel. Your questions are answered there :-)
@@iro3d Thx.
Can’t wait till I can buy it!
So cool looks great
The weather kinda sucks, but amazing how much interesting tech comes outta the PNW (maybe 'cuz they're stuck indoors so much...lol)!
No, we don't get stuck indoors - we have waterproof jackets :-)
And we have lot's of beautiful hiking trails.
Yes, this is brilliant
Great video! Cool topic.
can't wait to print 22 bolt carrier assemblies with this
I would have liked to see them lift the crucible out and heat it up with flames. Glowing stuff looks cool!
Looking forward to SLS desktop machines! Can't wait when it happen.
Making ghost gun lower receivers, the politco's are going to love this. lol.
That being said, you can already make guns cheaply and much quicker using standard manufacturing techniques. A lot of people hype 3D printing as "easy" manufacturing but it isn't necessarily good manufacturing which is why their use industrially is limited to small orders and prototyping.
It will be interesting to see how this develops
If they built the oven into the unit so its all in one that would be great. I suppose that aluminum parts would take a lower heat oven so that might be better for the Home DIY person. Very cool. I used live live in Renton , That was before they bought a Sun I guess.
Right now it is actually sunny. (Though 10 minutes ago - it wasn't. And I can't promise it will stay sunny for the next 10 minutes ;-)
So true ! Worked and lived in the Seattle area for 20 years, now I am in the Frozen Spokane area.
wow, that looks amazing. Has anyone ever made 3D sandcastle printing machine?
Not yet. But soon!
I saw someone that had a 3D printer that melted sand into glass using mirrors and the sun
There are 3D Printed houses now
In soviet Russia... 3d printer houses YOU!
ExOne makes 3D printers for sand, it is used in casting industry but I'm pretty sure its suitable for sandcastle also.
Thank you so much for this video :)
That's pretty damn cool!
That's really cool.
Finally, I can print myself some HEAVY METAL!
Holy crap I live in Renton that surprised me so much haha. Good video Joel.
That’s awesome!!!
Very metal, rock on.
Incredible!!!
"Sunny beautiful Renton, WA". LOL.
That's amazing.
Thanks Joel! You just introduced me to another printing technique. While I am aware of casting metal in sand and heat it, this is the first time I saw a 3d printer do it.
Curious as to how this would compare to Direct metal laser sintering (DMLS).
I see this asa great Tool for small Engineering Companies, I would love one. That tag on the side of your casting is called a Riser, yes partly for degassing the molten metal, and also for adding more metal to the casting to help with etal slump when the casting is molten / liquid.
Actually, it's a leftover from a runner. You should cut if off. See the explanation of the whole process in the new video on www.iro3d.com/
I'm looking forward in metal printing at home! I'm a PC enthusiast and I print graphics card modding parts very often. The major reason to buy a Prusa i3 mk3 was that hobby. I have most the time trouble finding filaments they can resist 80°C + & the mounting pressure of VRM heatsinks and GPU coolers. To print my own custom aluminium heatsinks they fit 100% my needs would be awesome. Currently I print mostly with Extruders Greentec Pro filament what is under that conditions most the time yet form stable. But at 90°C prints will lose there shape under pressure.
Maybe I try formlabs Volcano PLA next time. Stefan from CNC Kitchen printet a mokka cooker and a coffee mug with that stuff.
pretty nice, but it looks fairly imprecise, a huge advantage of metal printing is that you can easily build complex structures and so you can produce sturdy lightweight things. There is also a metal 3d printer, which uses metal infused filament, which also need to sit in a furnace afterwards (i bet you will need often new nozzels but it might be more accurate), and one version which uses an low cost Laser for sintering, i think they hope to sell it in a distant future also for about 5000$, but it is still a prototype and the firs versions will probably be more expansive.
Our new version is quite precise. And the material properties are much better than in the 2 processes you mention. See our latest video.
@@iro3d I will do that, thank you!
If you are going to sinter the print in the kiln, you don't necessarily have to go to trouble of depositing powders. Filaments are available with high metal content that can be printed on a conventional FDM printer, with final sintered part having nearly the same mechanical properties as parts sintered from powder. There is going to be considerably more shrinking with FDM method, due to the loss of binder, so there are going to be some limitation, but overall, it's going to be a far cheaper method of making metal parts at home. A $500 kiln and a hardened nozzle for your FDM printer, to survive metal-rich filament, basically get you there.
Mind Blown.
Another step towards the universal replicator :)
Very nice 👍
Very cool
At Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL), we have some full size, industrial metal 3D printers. I could get you something printed if you like.
Alex W : there is something important I need printed, can you contact me somehow or leave your contact?
3d printed nukes huh? 😏
I would imagine you have the best of the best there.
HOW AM I JUST NOW SEEING THIS???
Interesting....
Wow. I can see that price point dropping rapidly and also the number of materials that you can print with increasing. It’s a nice simple solution.
that printer seems as easy and cheap to make as any other reprap, you just replace the extruder with a powder dispenser and the filament spool with powder hopper.
So it could be described as a 3D printed sand cast that is pre filled with powdered metal. A rearrangement of the process of casting. You would still need a kiln to melt the powder but do not have to have a forge that produces molten metal.
I think a big advantage of this that Joel may have overlooked is the capability to cast metals other than traditional aluminum and brass or bronze... thats _huge_
Thanks Joel, will be interesting to see where this goes.
- Eddy
Deathlok67 totally agree, not actual 3d print Per se. But a cool layering infusion technique.
@@eekeek433 it's a classic powder print method, one of the oldest ones in the book.
this is what I'm into, love seeing new and accessible ways of sculpting metal
at my work I do some engraving, but we don't really do trophies and awards so much because of the amount of different stock / types / shapes of trophies. It's a bit too much for us.
however, to have a library of trophy styles on a computer (which can be created/edited digitally) seems ideal to me - unique bespoke metal statues printed within a couple days. I've never in the past been convinced about the metal filaments for 3d printers - seems gimmick/brittle, but hopefully the tech is only getting better :D
Amazing!!!!
You should do a collab with someone who has some metal casting equipment 🙃
You could try to make the standard casting-a-3D-print-process simpler.
(Not just pouring a Low melting point alloy into a 3d print, I mean some metals with real practical applications, like aluminum)
Yes, I think collab is a great idea!
I have a casting setup for the 'lost wax' or investment casting method. Main limitation is the fuel costs (my furnace is gas fired, and burning out the wax or PLA uses a prohibitive amount of propane). If we could get a FDM printable material that burns out super easily, the main issue would instead be the time taken for making the molds.
Something I haven't tried (so far) is green sand casting. For this you could quite easily 3D print the pattern, which is then reusable many times. The greensand approach produces a much lower quality of finish and fine detail, more similar to the sintered powder parts seen in this video (though unlike these parts they won't be porous).
I still think you might be able to do something like this with an FDM 3D printer. If the plastic filament is actually a dissolvable binder with metal powder, you can put the object in a sintering furnace to finish it.
GENIUS!
Time to print ironman.
"Sunny, Beautiful, Renton WA" ROFLMAO. The SLS / SPD style of printer does look interesting though,
Awesome.