DEF CON 32 - Disenshittify or die! How hackers can seize the means of computation - Cory Doctorow

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  • @jefftee7354
    @jefftee7354 หลายเดือนก่อน +1690

    Hey organizers, give this guy ALL the time he wants next time.

    • @loninappleton
      @loninappleton หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      Yes. I couldn't understand why they were trying to give Cory the hook like in an old vaudeville show when his message is so important.

    • @TacticalFluke09
      @TacticalFluke09 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      right? imagine giving doctorow a duff mic and ushering him off the stage before he's finished.

    • @Artificial-Cognition
      @Artificial-Cognition หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Wasn't the first time this happened, that's why I lost all respect for this event. The speakers are always good, the attendees are always good, but everything else is just 👎lol if I didn't know any better I'd even say they were so quick to get him off the stage because some of what he was saying applies to them. Would be such irony.

    • @Frickolas
      @Frickolas หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      And a fully functional microphone...

    • @blakelapierre
      @blakelapierre หลายเดือนก่อน

      g-simp

  • @MarcelloLins
    @MarcelloLins หลายเดือนก่อน +633

    "When they do it, its progress, when you do it, its piracy. Every pirate wants to be an admiral"
    What a strong statement !

    • @playerguy2
      @playerguy2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      _... because they did it with an app._
      Because that makes all the difference in the world!

    • @GypsyTravler
      @GypsyTravler หลายเดือนก่อน

      I say Let Them Be Admirals!!!
      Hackers are alot more ethical than GoOGLe

    • @chadh3441
      @chadh3441 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      It's the same with law enforcement. A cop can blatantly lie to you and it's considered legal, a part of their job duties. However, when a citizen lies to a cop it's illegal, and often ends up with the citizen being charged with a crime as well as being arrested and taken to jail. 2 tier judicial system for sure. Cheers

    • @RolandoGarza
      @RolandoGarza 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Just look at how AI was trained (illegally scraping and redistributing through some sort of data laundering billions of webpages, books, videos, source code, etc. - all of them with either Copyright or Copyleft restrictions).

    • @GypsyTravler
      @GypsyTravler 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RolandoGarza yes AI apps come with disclaimers In fine print under 'Terms & Conditions' They basically tell you that THEY OWN © over everything YOU create with their AI app 😒
      Double villain syndrome. Just like any mafia crime syndicate, They (AI Corps) Profit from the Theft of other people's hard work..but they get us humans to do the crime.. it's in their playbook 😏
      I mean tax payer contributions have been funding global mafia since..🤔..the conception of imposed taxes on citizens
      (a temporary fix at the time according to gvmt)

  • @benni2294
    @benni2294 หลายเดือนก่อน +482

    dear youtube managers, please make this video a giant teddybear

    • @JH-pt6ih
      @JH-pt6ih หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What does this mean?

    • @benni2294
      @benni2294 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@JH-pt6ih goota watch the talk ;)

    • @sandwich2473
      @sandwich2473 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@JH-pt6ih14:00 ish

    • @michaelstevenson5044
      @michaelstevenson5044 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      TH-cam has that too

    • @mikenichollsthethird2549
      @mikenichollsthethird2549 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They did...

  • @pilotnamealreadytaken6035
    @pilotnamealreadytaken6035 หลายเดือนก่อน +800

    This guy needs to make this speach on every podcast imaginable

    • @ambivalentnpc
      @ambivalentnpc หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Those watching need to nuke the like button to sun so that the algorithm stumbles in its shoelaces and lets the message SPREAD.
      This is your daily dose of like the video reminders.

    • @GeorgeNoiseless
      @GeorgeNoiseless หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Cory Doctorow has been here since web 2.0 started, always a consumer advocate. If someone hasn't heard him yet, it's because the word isn't being spread.
      Link this talk, share it, blast it on mike your multiplayer match if you have to.

    • @gorgonbert
      @gorgonbert หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      “THEY” won’t let him 😉

    • @JeremyAndersonBoise
      @JeremyAndersonBoise หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      “This guy” is Cory Doctorow and he is one of the most important people protecting your freedom.

    • @ingusmant
      @ingusmant หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Even rogaine's?

  • @ManuelTiedtke
    @ManuelTiedtke หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    "When Facebook scraped MySpace, that was progress. When Google scraped the internet, that was progress. When you do that today, they will nuke the sh1t out of you with their lawyers." I love you Cory. @33:50

  • @gregmark1688
    @gregmark1688 หลายเดือนก่อน +358

    "The rats have bought out the poison company and shut it down."
    Damn this man is fucken genius.

    • @nerobaal6655
      @nerobaal6655 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      This dude is the poison in your devices.

    • @beantreats
      @beantreats หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@nerobaal6655 we found the rat!

    • @nerobaal6655
      @nerobaal6655 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@beantreats Yea every time you guys look in the mirror you find it.

    • @chemrot931
      @chemrot931 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@nerobaal6655you say as you type on your black mirror. lol. lmao even.

    • @nerobaal6655
      @nerobaal6655 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chemrot931 I don’t exclude myself when I say those things. I am included.

  • @finding.filene6509
    @finding.filene6509 หลายเดือนก่อน +412

    Just when I thought Cory Doctorow couldn't give a better speech, he does. Unbelievably good talk, universally and holistically. Thank you.

    • @blaeks
      @blaeks หลายเดือนก่อน

      What specifically is good about it (apart of the creative narrative - that is brilliant as always)? All these creative, genial and brilliant people do not even _mention_ low consumption, or low-ER consumption, or strategies of frugal living or fasting or something like that. How is this possible?! I am puzzled.
      All this is a (creative) cannibalization of society by dopamine instant-gratification brain. It's painfully simple but true. Cannibalization is present on all levels (both material and abstract), does this paradigm even require an explanation?

    • @physiqueDrummond
      @physiqueDrummond หลายเดือนก่อน

      he's even DJing! and plays Ondes Martenot

    • @messywill
      @messywill หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      This gives me hope that my children might experience the internet that I did. An internet that was fun and not just advertising

    • @loninappleton
      @loninappleton หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I felt the same way after immersing myself in the trail of TH-cam entries I've missed. This was 'the nuts."

    • @peterbelanger4094
      @peterbelanger4094 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why TF is this guy STILL wearing a mask? what kind of nutjob is he? I'm not going to listen to ANYONE who still wears a face mask in 2024, really, WTF? who cares what he has to say, he''s leftist, ... sworn enemy!

  • @mattilindstrom
    @mattilindstrom หลายเดือนก่อน +345

    Oh Doctorow, one of my favorite polemicists. Performed by anybody else I'd call this a rant, but by him this to me is a thoughtful opinion piece delivered at light speed.

    • @mt180extras
      @mt180extras หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      who's to say it's not both? a thoughtful opinion piece and a rant are quite difficult to disambiguate from one-another, i'd say

    • @mattilindstrom
      @mattilindstrom หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@mt180extras A fair take, matter of opinion.

    • @LilMissLyss
      @LilMissLyss หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Prejudice much?

    • @loninappleton
      @loninappleton หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I tried to tell one of his jokes from a speech and balled it up. He has speed and accuracy. It's amazing.

  • @ickromwerk610
    @ickromwerk610 หลายเดือนก่อน +469

    Only enshitification talks becomes better with years

    • @andypetrow4228
      @andypetrow4228 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sobering

    • @MrTbirkett
      @MrTbirkett หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It's because of the exponential content being created - endless growing amounts of enshittification... and with the promises of GenAI - it's only going to get worse, faster, all the time.

    • @leggysoft
      @leggysoft หลายเดือนก่อน

      This guy is like a patent troll, despite there being prior art of enshittify he doesn't care and still pretends he invented a word.

    • @Jm-wt1fs
      @Jm-wt1fs หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@leggysoftwhen did he say he invented the word?

    • @leggysoft
      @leggysoft หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Jm-wt1fs he circular-cites himself in his articles and wiki claiming to be the inventor of a made up word people have made up repeatedly for decades

  • @staninjapan07
    @staninjapan07 หลายเดือนก่อน +160

    That's a top-notch speech right there.
    On target and precise, but delivered with a casual and caustic style.
    I will certainly be watching this again to memorize some talking points.

    • @LSD-33166
      @LSD-33166 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He sayin what everybody with a brain feels

  • @EvilGPT
    @EvilGPT หลายเดือนก่อน +887

    Fuck yes finally the talks are coming in.

    • @HRRRRRDRRRRR
      @HRRRRRDRRRRR หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      I too look forward to all of my free time disappearing.

    • @MasterMadaraXD
      @MasterMadaraXD หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      just the day before I went on the defcon channel and thought, that they may come out any day now

    • @Sarge92
      @Sarge92 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Same here here's to hoping we get some good talks
      I appreciate all the speakers but the last couple years talks have been a little dry

    • @KJ-xt3yu
      @KJ-xt3yu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Sarge92 guess we get to enjoy the loss of time watching the defcon content, most of the good topics get pulled before a talk though

    • @drumstyx
      @drumstyx หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I want to watch this 3 times over

  • @NahtShure
    @NahtShure หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    "Please stop telling each other if you're not paying for the product, you are the product."
    PREACH!!!

    • @Ouvii
      @Ouvii หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      10:09 full context

  • @xkaaiix
    @xkaaiix หลายเดือนก่อน +487

    "Seize the means of computation" is a hell of a slogan

    • @patricknelson
      @patricknelson หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      A modern day clarion call. This generation’s “Hack the planet.”
      (And a good name for a book, too…)

    • @nerobaal6655
      @nerobaal6655 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Like any of these people could do it. 😂

    • @ennui7778
      @ennui7778 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@nerobaal6655I've been using computers since I was 2, I certainly can't do it alone but if I got some help from some like minded friends I'll take my chances. not like ceos know how to code but I do and so do a ton of people in my generation so who has power over computing? the ceo who has to call tech support when he needs to reset his email password or those of us who speak the languages of computing?

    • @SevenRiderAirForce
      @SevenRiderAirForce หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      It won't do him any favors. It's like saying "Heil Doctorow" or "The techies will rise again" - invoking the worst ideologies from history is just going to keep him fringe.

    • @ajaxjaxxy3537
      @ajaxjaxxy3537 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@SevenRiderAirForcestay mad lol

  • @quesonegro
    @quesonegro หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    It's hard to watch this video, not because the content is bad, but because it is just so frustrating how true it is. It's only been a month, but I can't wait to go back for DC 33.

    • @MrSwaga1
      @MrSwaga1 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Can anyone go or is it invite only?

    • @gavinknight8560
      @gavinknight8560 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It will be too late to take industrial action by the time enough tech folks actually wake up.

    • @gavinknight8560
      @gavinknight8560 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MrSwaga1anyone can go, and it’s fantastic.

    • @replynotificationsdisabled
      @replynotificationsdisabled 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      i just can't stand his wear of a mask... like do a full mask or not, the VID was a sham.

  • @gabrielfair724
    @gabrielfair724 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

    Thank you for letting this person finish. This speech is more important than your conference

    • @aubydauby
      @aubydauby หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      Note that Cory Doctorow isn't just some guy; he's probably the most known name at the conference.

    • @just-mees
      @just-mees 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      rude but okay

  • @johndeaux8815
    @johndeaux8815 หลายเดือนก่อน +223

    I love that 5:30 into a talk on the enshittification of technology, his microphone starts to buzz 😂

    • @Thuja814
      @Thuja814 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      👻

    • @SimGunther
      @SimGunther หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I think the mic wanted to shut him down 🤣

    • @JPs-q1o
      @JPs-q1o หลายเดือนก่อน

      Made in Ching-Chang-China,
      sh!tsource epicenter for
      ensh!tification...

    • @alfonzo7822
      @alfonzo7822 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep trying to silence the truth /a la conspiracy ​@@SimGunther

    • @ianmoore5502
      @ianmoore5502 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Specifically while discussing how you can't listen to audio not Specifically locked in by Apple

  • @ThegratefulC
    @ThegratefulC หลายเดือนก่อน +464

    The enshitification rant at the beginning was epic lol

    • @xj0ex39
      @xj0ex39 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think you meant from the defcon conference last year yet he looks like he’s wearing the same outfit.

    • @userou-ig1ze
      @userou-ig1ze หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, I scrolled back

    • @drlaza
      @drlaza หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      the whole thing is a rant :D

    • @Rubalix
      @Rubalix หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@xj0ex39 He meant at the beginning of the video. You’re not Einstein dude, so stop trying to be.

    • @xj0ex39
      @xj0ex39 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Rubalix was this a statement or a diss?

  • @kusharora21
    @kusharora21 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I wish I could rant like this… so concise, descriptive and well structured without loosing focus of his argument

    • @beantreats
      @beantreats หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I mean, not to take away from a good speech, but he did have notes with him there that he was looking at to keep him on track.

  • @myname-mz3lo
    @myname-mz3lo หลายเดือนก่อน +396

    yes. lets rebuild the internet . cypher punks we need you

    • @SlaserX
      @SlaserX หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You first

    • @LostArchivist
      @LostArchivist หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@SlaserXTakes a team

    • @Spells4Cheap
      @Spells4Cheap หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Where can I sign up?

    • @guerra_dos_bichos
      @guerra_dos_bichos หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Spells4Cheap Yarrrrrrrrr matey

    • @Rockyzach88
      @Rockyzach88 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Gotta have non-corporate server infrastructure.

  • @d.w.stratton4078
    @d.w.stratton4078 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I listened to every second of this and was RIVETED. I've heard Cory before on Adam Conover's show and have listened to one of their speeches at a previous DEF CON about enshitification, but this was even BETTER. Cory, thanks for being a cantankerous s.o.b. willing to tell capital interests where to shove it, my guy!

  • @MewBlood
    @MewBlood หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    I fucking love Doctorow. Nobody understands and communicates the bullshit of tech as well as he does.

    • @Fiqure242
      @Fiqure242 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      great wroter too

    • @ItAintFar
      @ItAintFar หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Why’s he wearing a mask?. Is it his costume or is he worried about the flu

    • @JeremyAndersonBoise
      @JeremyAndersonBoise หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Big sames, I love his fiction writing too.

    • @JeremyAndersonBoise
      @JeremyAndersonBoise หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@ItAintFar He does that at conferences, it makes sense. I literally did not notice until I read your comment. Also, if you think you might be sick, it is a responsible public health move to wear a mask to protect other people, so maybe that.

    • @LilMonsterInc
      @LilMonsterInc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ItAintFar He's being responsible. He's at a massive event, meeting with a lot of people. The mask makes it very unlikely for him to catch anything, and if he does, very unlikely to pass it along.
      The conference was in early August, so it's unlikely the flu was a factor, but the massive covid spike that's going down now was peaking around that time, so just for that, it was a particularly good idea. And let me be clear, the mask was the responsible thing to do regardless of what's peaking at that moment.

  • @JakubDavoy
    @JakubDavoy หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    haha nice, "every pirate wants to be an admiral" for the logic behind big corp copyright behviour is wild

  • @phlooke
    @phlooke 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    This man got hit with the optical/laser microphone DDoS attack, but with positive intelligence he reversed engineered it into a rave. 5:04
    In other news, protect this man at all costs. I could listen to this guy speak facts for hours.

  • @noahsabin7386
    @noahsabin7386 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    The saying used to be "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product." A better saying is, "if you're not at the table, you're on the menu." Get angry, get involved, get organized.

    • @kiras3180
      @kiras3180 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "The time of the rats"

  • @JackhammerPhilosophy
    @JackhammerPhilosophy หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Amazing talk, actually the first thing to give me some hope for how we can all collectively deal with enshittification!

  • @donovanvanderlinde3478
    @donovanvanderlinde3478 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    It's about time the hacker zeitgeist wakes up

  • @willboler830
    @willboler830 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    I'm putting Cory Doctorow right up there with Lina Khan as one of my modern heroes. This was absolutely beautiful!

    • @beenright5115
      @beenright5115 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes! Cory Doctorow is OG

    • @IBx27
      @IBx27 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I hope Harris keeps Khan right where she is

    • @georgeokello8620
      @georgeokello8620 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IBx27Harris has been funded by Silicon Valley interests and they are actively in her ear to remove Lina Khan from her position

    • @BertoBoyd
      @BertoBoyd 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hell yeah. Great connection made!

  • @footnuke
    @footnuke 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This is one of the best tech talks I've ever seen. Doctorow is a kick-ass public speaker.

  • @BillNyeTheBountyGuy
    @BillNyeTheBountyGuy หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    If we live in a post-enshitification world my only regret will be that Mr. Doctorow won't rant about enshitification to me anymore.

  • @Ninjatomte
    @Ninjatomte หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    I'm calling it already, this will stand as the best speech of 2024

    • @loninappleton
      @loninappleton หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Cory is Canadian. They have an annual National public Speech contest. I don't know if he has ever been invited to it. This speech at DEF would make the Canadians drop their socks. Perhaps someone, a Canadian, can find out more.

    • @pedrogorilla483
      @pedrogorilla483 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is from 2020, look at his face.

    • @ProtoMan0451
      @ProtoMan0451 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pedrogorilla483 you been drinking the twitter cuck koolaid hard huh? youre the exact person that eats the spoonfed enshittification stuff hes talking about lol

    • @bsmith4185
      @bsmith4185 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@pedrogorilla483no? defcon 32 was in 2024

  • @jpo3811
    @jpo3811 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Nobody give this guy any cocaine.
    Good talk, Cory.

  • @axa993
    @axa993 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This guy put into words everything that was bothering me about the Internet in the last few years. Bless him. We gotta fight.

    • @LSD-33166
      @LSD-33166 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Try last 10 years. R.I.P Netscape era, late 90's was a glorious celebration of liberty, mid 2000's the peak, its been downhill ever since

  • @Steadfish
    @Steadfish หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    What a great choice for the first talk to post!

  • @luciphonicverdigris3149
    @luciphonicverdigris3149 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Wow! Just as he trashes iOS, a harsh pulse intrudes on his RF. That's when you KNOW it's good!

  • @z3r0trust
    @z3r0trust หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Doctorow is legendary. Check out his books, too! So much knowledge and good ideas to fix major issues in tech coming from him.

    • @shygrammer
      @shygrammer หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      he's calling name!!! the balls on this guy are massive!

  • @05Matz
    @05Matz หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Extremely valuable. Cory is a public treasure. Subject matter always gets me angry, but Cory offers a ray of hope, at least.

  • @Elecjester
    @Elecjester หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    STANDING OVATION for this fantastic speech. Share it far & wide & get it in front of the eyeballs that need to see it the most.

  • @robelbelay4065
    @robelbelay4065 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    I've not heard this many nails getting smashed on the head in a looong time! Amazing talk!!

  • @aziztcf
    @aziztcf หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Bravo! hackers of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your toolchains!

    • @filthyfrankblack4067
      @filthyfrankblack4067 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This dude WENT OFF.. I don't believe he threw a Milliennial Thinker Amazon meme in there at the end.

  • @RobertLesac
    @RobertLesac หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The world needs to hear this. Thank you Cory!

  • @TacticalFluke09
    @TacticalFluke09 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I hope history remembers Cory as one of the most impactful speakers of our time.

  • @rmdashrfv
    @rmdashrfv 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    We have never needed a talk like this more than we need it now. Thank you Cory Doctorow

  • @Jango1989
    @Jango1989 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    This was even better in person. Fantastic!

    • @muteloch2798
      @muteloch2798 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lucky duck

  • @detromaniac
    @detromaniac หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I honestly want to boot advertising from the internet entirely.

    • @LordofFullmetal
      @LordofFullmetal หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I wish we could - but realistically, that hurts more people than it helps. And not the big corporations, because they can afford to find other ways of advertising. The people who get hurt by the removal of internet advertising are the everyman. That author who makes a living selling their books. That artist who does commissions. That person working in digital advertising who's just trying to feed their family. THOSE are the people that get hurt.

    • @chandrastar5939
      @chandrastar5939 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@LordofFullmetalyou're defending the the fema camp guards that bash you into submission. Because if you hit back it hurts their families? Because they use their 'art' talents/skills to sell poisonous and mind numbing useless products.
      Advertising is social engineering. Wake up.

  • @DanielMcGregor
    @DanielMcGregor หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    You know what. I'm going to start by helping as many people I can to get the F*** off Windows. It's a small step, but it's a start.

  • @chadh3441
    @chadh3441 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This dude should be given a 2 hr slot at every event! Excellent speech man, bravo! From beginning to end, it's loaded with tons of important information about today's internet, and the ruthless tactics used by large corporations to dominate world markets, it's citizens, and any expectation of personal privacy. Great speech again! Cheers

  • @meighan.leenetta
    @meighan.leenetta หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cory Doctorow is an international treasure and we must protect this sweet baby angel

  • @Patechoc
    @Patechoc หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    ❤❤❤❤
    We all need to reflect on the evolution of IT as this guy does. We can't accept to let it go fuether toward an Orwellian system, or are we there already and how can we move out of it.
    Let's fight back these capitalist monsters and bring back internet to what it was meant to be: a decentralized communication system that connects everyone.

  • @RiahGreen
    @RiahGreen หลายเดือนก่อน +314

    The most important thing I learned from this talk:
    Be in and maintain a union!!

    • @syloui
      @syloui หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love how he spent half the talk talking about monopolization and how competition was what once kept industry players in check, only to end the talk with "the answer is unions" instead of giving big tech the middle finger in response to the carrot on a stick of six figure salaries and going off to start the competition that is lacking
      People don't want enshitification, they just don't think they have a choice. Unions seize your voice for the collective while parasatizing a chunk of your salary for no results. Look no further than the globalized decadence of the "American" auto industry despite the existence of the UAW, or the animation industry despite sagaftra: in the age of globalization they don't have to care about domestic work because they can always outsource to another country willing to work for pennies on the dollar. You beat them with superior products as time in memoriam has proven, like what happened to Bell and IBM. For the history of entrepreneurialism in tech we have far too many "tech bros" looking for exit velocity from selling out start ups to the nearest VC firm shadow ran by big tech anyway; the pirates of silicon valley were subsumed by the sellouts of silicon valley, we need more 70s Apples and Compaqs than FAANG wannabes and that stubborn willingness to stand up to them in the face of hostile take over attempts will be far more effective at saving us than unionizing

    • @abandonedmuse
      @abandonedmuse หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      What I learned is: We need to GAME the system and screw with their data models by teaching people how their little tricks work.
      Corporate anarchy.

    • @nerobaal6655
      @nerobaal6655 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I find you both incredibly ignorant.

    • @MadsterV
      @MadsterV หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Endorsing unions is certainly one of the objectives of this emotional talk, just unsubstantiated and tossed in right when your defenses are low.
      Top notch work 10/10 would get indoctrinated again.

    • @DxBlack
      @DxBlack หลายเดือนก่อน

      Creates Union, loses jobs to outsourcing...you have rights to collectivized in the same way the employer has every right to shut the business down and move country.
      Unions are NOT a solution. YOU don't own the company.

  • @jack6539
    @jack6539 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I remember working for DEC. Open systems all the way ftw. And yeah, we got totally fucked over by IBM and M$. I am sure the elders of the internet are looking down at this guy nodding their heads in approval. As am i

  • @Skyhawk656
    @Skyhawk656 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This guys my hero, the monopoly Google has over searches hurts my small businesses growth.

  • @Hypnafractyl
    @Hypnafractyl หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Cory just keeps on getting better somehow, its impressive

  • @MinkxiTes
    @MinkxiTes หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Had me hooked in the first 5 minutes. And the part about the self help groups being on facebook is sadly so true.

  • @ThisIsJustADrillBit
    @ThisIsJustADrillBit หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Oh my god protect this man at all costs ❤😮

    • @BoDiddlydodah
      @BoDiddlydodah หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@paulbell7654 yeah I thought this was filmed back in 2020 at first. Can't figure why he is wearing a mask now

    • @n1k0n_
      @n1k0n_ หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@BoDiddlydodah Programming

    • @SharienGaming
      @SharienGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@BoDiddlydodah because conflu always has been a thing and some people are now more conscious of that? would be my guess anyway

    • @elderlyoogway
      @elderlyoogway หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bunch of crazy wackos in the comments, he's scientifically moral enough to make a choice

    • @MadsterV
      @MadsterV หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulbell7654 as if an oddly specific dig at Musk of all billionaires and the call to unionize and embrace a big government weren't enough of tells :)

  • @Ziegler-di7xz
    @Ziegler-di7xz หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Mad impressed how quickly he picked it up!

  • @Meikulish
    @Meikulish หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I didn’t think I’d watch more than 5 minutes of this but he really got me. This talk has 10 of the top 10 antimonopoly lines I’ve ever heard.

  • @Str0ngSad
    @Str0ngSad หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "every pirate wants to be an admiral" this dude rocks

  • @Perception.mp4
    @Perception.mp4 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with pretty much everything he said, and as someone in the tech industry I understand this level of frustration deeply, because he's right about how bad the current corporate tech environment is. I also think we need to be strategic and wise about how we approach this problem, because the same way that the tech corporations have abused their power and taken their greed too far, the power behind our movement to undo the abuse can also be taken too far, and that makes us no better than them. Let's make sure we do this right and responsibly!

  • @redfangtabris7405
    @redfangtabris7405 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    knowledge is power.

  • @jloronlavoie245
    @jloronlavoie245 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    Louis Rossman is on TH-cam addressing some of these issues, its brilliant. seriously.

    • @beantreats
      @beantreats หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Louis x Doctorow would be a good crossover

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I schooled him about the defcon voting village... and he banned me for educating him 😂 he isnt very bright but he does love to play poorme which is popular in cities groups he is in

    • @jloronlavoie245
      @jloronlavoie245 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dertythegrower I havent seen that but yeah hes quick to react sometimes, we have our thing.

    • @ToTheGrave20
      @ToTheGrave20 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@dertythegrowersure you did.

    • @computer_toucher
      @computer_toucher 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As long as you don't listen to him about literally anything else than R2R stuff, sure, Rossman is OK.

  • @Notapizzathief
    @Notapizzathief หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Everyone needs to like and comment on this to try and boost it.
    Anyone over the age of 25 ought to remember how much better the Internet was even 10 years ago.

  • @mrsmith5114
    @mrsmith5114 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Cory is a chef and he was cooking in that kitchen.

  • @JacobCanote
    @JacobCanote หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Love that the good old wired LXR microphone comes in for the save.

    • @Ouvii
      @Ouvii หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      (*XLR) Absolutely, it pays to have a backup.

  • @durkawitz
    @durkawitz หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    hoestly the saddest thing is that while this is the most important talk I've seen since the last Cory Doctorow Defcon Talk, I don't know a single person with the attention span to watch it

    • @ince55ant
      @ince55ant หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      true, the thing i cant stop thinking is: if this talk was actually effective the megacorps mentioned would be suing the venue and organisers (among other punative methods) to silence it. They would be trying their damnedest to make him persona non grata.
      Hopefully they're just ignorant, overly comfortable in their hegemonic power.

    • @thesenamesaretaken
      @thesenamesaretaken หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ince55antone thing megacorps have become good at is appropriating counter culture and cynicism and using them to recapture people

    • @stephe1506
      @stephe1506 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah that's a fair worry. But people like me are also watching way more of this than I thought I had the attention span for when I clicked, and I have almost zero experience with computing tools but he's inspiring the sh!t outta me, he's so engaging
      Maybe the powers that be know of and fear the potential harnessed power of ADHD hyperfocused hackers, might be why they make it hard to get diagnosis and medication. Only half joking 😅

  • @letsRegulateSociopaths
    @letsRegulateSociopaths หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hearing Eric Schmidt give students at Stanford the EXACT directions he just mentioned about Ignoring IP laws and "getting the lawyers to clean it up", kinda gives truth to this.

  • @cit0110
    @cit0110 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    bless this person🙏🏽
    speeches like these are important. they take advantage of engineers, the money is too damn good isn't it.

  • @CedarAce1000
    @CedarAce1000 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Commenting to boost engagement :)

  • @maxjohn6012
    @maxjohn6012 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow I don't think I've ever re-wound a video so many times to take in what had just been said. Amazing talk.

  • @MacGuffin1
    @MacGuffin1 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    Cory for Prez!!

  • @shred69
    @shred69 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    50 minutes of straight to the point, fat free real talk🥇

  • @chloevania440
    @chloevania440 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    It's strangely refreshing to hear someone swear in a microphone. It feels like that happens less and less

    • @VM-lt9wl
      @VM-lt9wl 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right? It kinda caught me off guard, in a good way. It was so unexpected because of how uncommon it is. *It's honest.*

  • @austrich0
    @austrich0 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    one of the most concise and complete talks on this topic. amazing, thank you!

  • @GreenGrapesMilk
    @GreenGrapesMilk หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I hope more people see this before censors get ahold of it. Especially younger folks who don't remember the internet before 2000's.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eli Pariser proved it, 2011.... they definitely bury the best content makers of truth

    • @richardcampbell8685
      @richardcampbell8685 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It’s literally be shoved into my face for 3 weeks.

    • @LSD-33166
      @LSD-33166 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Educating yourself on history, critical thinking, and just plain smarts is the key

  • @gregmc1270
    @gregmc1270 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    FKING love every version of this talk. platforms be damned, take back the internet and make it smol

  • @Gion-x3t
    @Gion-x3t หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    People should save their criticism until after watching the entire video. He's a great speaker.

    • @trumpetpunk42
      @trumpetpunk42 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Tough to get through the first few seconds of mask mumbling...

    • @Gion-x3t
      @Gion-x3t หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@trumpetpunk42 He sounded perfectly fine. The most he did was take breaths. That's the only critique and it's not a strong one. Watch it without video and it might help

    • @WPO-m8z
      @WPO-m8z หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why? Just seeing someone wearing a mask tells me they aren't worthy of any further evaluation and can be easily dismissed.

  • @irx0r
    @irx0r 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    top notch presentation, should've signed up for that EFF newsletter ages ago

  • @hellbillybill69
    @hellbillybill69 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That was awesome! He like hacked the feedback or whatever that interference was by waving his arm up and jumping and was clearly following his sense of action there. lol

  • @EricAllenGriff
    @EricAllenGriff 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Spot on Brother, but never forget we made this. Now we need to reinvent our wheel with improvements and get back on track. No social media should ever last more than 5 years. And each generation needs to get closer to individual people and further from Capitalist Greed and Those that want to control everyone!

  • @rawdawg7995
    @rawdawg7995 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    dude you are fucking amazing at speaking! very gripping. speaking all facts and i learned many things.
    thank you for playing your part! let me know how to help or help me help us all

  • @spenapsis
    @spenapsis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing, amazing talk. Thanks for putting into words all my suspicions and educating me on more than a few things.

  • @leonidas14775
    @leonidas14775 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Concentration of power corrupts absolutely, no matter what economic system you have

    • @michaelm1
      @michaelm1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you. Finally someone who got to the crux of the problem!

    • @mk71b
      @mk71b หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Corruption resulting from the love of money is better contained by capitalism than by communism. But even capitalism is as strong as its weakest link, and that is the self-centeredness of fallen man.

    • @richardcampbell8685
      @richardcampbell8685 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mk71b except the fact that communism just makes less people wealthy… and by its nature concentrates power into the hands of bureaucrats without the possibility of anything coming to replace it outside a collapse of the system.

    • @burninglove-x2r
      @burninglove-x2r 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Check out the book Morals in business.
      Properly formed Co-operatives are the future of quality goods and services

  • @bluetoad07
    @bluetoad07 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i don't know how i haven't heard of this man before but i absolutely love him

  • @erickvond6825
    @erickvond6825 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Something you may want to include in future speeches is the huge conglomerate known as Disney.

    • @chrisdonnell7200
      @chrisdonnell7200 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's it's own 2 hour rant

    • @MadsterV
      @MadsterV หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      and intelligence agencies who are the main drive for most of his complaints.
      Odd isn't it?

    • @Johndoho
      @Johndoho หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Disney? You mean the mini-Government..

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower หลายเดือนก่อน

      that is a huge reason google and facebook are the way they are... the W word is accurate, wokeified 200%

  • @mble
    @mble หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love that man. He says exactly what is on my mind.

  • @tekboi1984
    @tekboi1984 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    1:14 preach preach!! This guy is on point!

  • @eatshawn
    @eatshawn หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Oh snap! I've been reading boingboing for like 20 years and somehow never seen a picture/video of Cory Doctorow.

    • @AubreyBarnard
      @AubreyBarnard หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How?!

    • @eatshawn
      @eatshawn หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@AubreyBarnard😆 dunno! I even listened to one of his audiobooks

  • @astarothgr
    @astarothgr หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd read the presentation text on Cory's site, but *holy hell* the actual delivery is so much fun! I love this man too much!

  • @happyboom-
    @happyboom- หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Fantastic talk.

  • @LuchosteinCL
    @LuchosteinCL หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I usually listen speeches like this at 1.25x speed; this genius makes me need 0.75x :D

    • @alfonzo7822
      @alfonzo7822 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same, I couldn't keep up! O⁠_⁠o

    • @Asdayasman
      @Asdayasman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Weakness, I listened at 2x like everything else.

    • @alfonzo7822
      @alfonzo7822 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Asdayasman [̲̅⁠$̲̅⁠(̲̅⁠ ͡⁠ಠ⁠_⁠ಠ⁠)̲̅⁠$̲̅⁠]

    • @alfonzo7822
      @alfonzo7822 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Asdayasman ᕙ⁠(⁠ ⁠ ⁠•⁠ ⁠‿⁠ ⁠•⁠ ⁠ ⁠)⁠ᕗ

  • @danoconnell1833
    @danoconnell1833 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn. The emotional energy of a rant, with the persuasiveness of logic. Love this guy.

  • @Gathies
    @Gathies หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've thought all of these things! Seeing someone talk about them is fantastic.

  • @oneleggeddog
    @oneleggeddog หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great speech. We definitely need to enforce our antitrust laws. We also need to enforce our fraud laws in the face of AI

  • @TokiWithCheese
    @TokiWithCheese 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    thank you for wearing an N95, it's hopeful to see people with a platform caring about protecting their health & the health of their community

  • @JonJenkins1982
    @JonJenkins1982 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly, I’m impressed that he did this whole speech without a single drink of water

  • @J0R1AN
    @J0R1AN หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Incredibly well put.

  • @Keyboard_Warrior_77
    @Keyboard_Warrior_77 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i felt like jumping up and punching the roof with a HELL YEAH! ... This is so on the point.
    Great rant

  • @thewholeworldblurred
    @thewholeworldblurred หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    My favorite character from Mr Robot

  • @LBPnews1
    @LBPnews1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Commenting to give interaction to show the big microwave that this video deserves more

  • @LLJW4
    @LLJW4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    So, I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it, and stick your head out, and yell: ‘I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not gonna take this anymore!
    Share this content!

    • @kevinmartin2000
      @kevinmartin2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      from the movie "Network" (1976)

    • @mycarrysun
      @mycarrysun หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And take the mask off

  • @ellingeidbo8469
    @ellingeidbo8469 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The means of production is the factory. Programmers ARE the factory. You don't need to seize the means of production, you are the means of production.