This advice is SPOT ON! The comics industry will BREAK YOUR HEART and leave you behind when they're done with you! You better do it for the love, because with few exceptions, there's no money in it...
It's always hard to start a business, especially in a creative field in which buyer's feedback feels so personal. If someone doesn't like story you've worked on for years it seems like a personal attack, even though it clearly is not. Creators have difficulty with that. They also tend not to enjoy he business side of things. It's one thing to work on a passion project and another entirely to try to turn that passion into a successful business.
That's pretty much the advice you get from a majority of people in the industry but there are quite a few people who are overnight success stories. A point about people who have this attitude is you want them to make it sound difficult to join such a small industry, because if they do you're potentially taking there job. I agree with Rick though because comics don't make you money majority of the industry so you'd better love doing it.
Rick Remender is the writer who made Sam Wilson Captain America. You realize that, right, Cummings? Nick Spencer just continued it. It was Remender that made Cap a black man. This is one of the guys you should be hating on, Cummings - instead of bitching about tweets you read from Dan Slott or Mark Waid.
Tom King used Year One in his rebirth arc, I Am Suicide. That was the first time they met (Catwoman and Batman). Anyway nobody wants to write a damn thing because things are so perfect. That is why it is hard to publish.
Comics will go on but the format will have to evolve and they're going to have run the business differently. I have a feeling a few independent artists and writers will be able to make it as indies but most people will have to go into a different line of work if say Marvel collapsed. IF Marvel or DC leave the field, that's it for the industry in general. You'll see more comic shops than ever shut down and monthly comic sales will shrivel up to way less than half of what they are even now... Possibly, Diamond will close down, too, but Diamond is not in fantastic shape at the moment, either. The comic book industry is poorly planned and organized. The behavior of the officers of these companies and the attitude of the creators versus the fans, the whole "versus" mentality, will do the ultimate damage. They do NOT know how to run their business and their attitudes suck. How is a rational person supposed to react to the terrible behavior you witness online other than to flip these guys off and walk away from the hobby and just enjoy what you've got already? I think personally that if new monthly comics reduced production they'd capitalize more on the backlog of what they have in the archives already and probably do even more reprints just to keep the characters in the public eye somehow. I have NOT bought anything but reprints (TPBs, hardcovers) since 2010 and most of those have been bought used or on remainder because they're NOT worth $50 and $100! I have no desire to go back to a comic shop and feel much better for NOT giving DC or Marvel my money for monthlies all these years. I collected for the better part of 27 years and that was enough for me!
I've been a soul that encourages people to read books, comics...perhaps that. But at this age, half the population doesn't read anymore. It fucking hurts to see people not reading, loving, caring for NOT themselves. Reading can help you in ways you're not aware of. It's just fucking hurts to see people not being aware of that. The problem here is the world today, I mean I LOVE films but now they treat films-and I'm not alone in this-like it's the next BIG THING! Adaptation after adaptation of books and comic books...might as well let Stephen King or J.K. Rowling or any talented writer to WRITE A FUCKING MOVIE! All I'm saying is, we live in a world where half or almost a whole world doesn't open books and READ. "IF YOU WANT MORE SUPERHERO MOVIES? THEN READ COMICS AND BOOKS! SUPPORT THE SOURCE MATERIALS OF THIS FILMS. IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE TRAILER NOW A DAYS THEN SEARCH OF IT WAS BASED ON A BOOK OR A COMIC, THEN READ IT! BUY IT! HALF OF THE CINEMA INDUSTRY GREW BECAUSE OF BOOKS AND COMICS...SO WHY NOT SUPPORT THEM TOO!" THERE IS A GUY I KNOW THAT REFUSE TO WATCH ADAPTATION OF HIS FAVORITE COMIC BOOKS BECAUSE IT'S RUINING THE SOURCE MATERIAL...! SEE!? Anyway, just... support your local comic book shops or...wait for marvel and dc to shut down and let new writers release and bring back comics but the question...will it come? Will it rise again like it used to back in the 80s?
I notice a lot of past creators, namely him and guys like Starlin and David, they become embittered after so many years in the industry. I've seen this kind of thing before. In fact, comic book history is rife with it.
Siegel & Shuster -- 'NUFF SAID! They define the beginning of the industry and the way it chews creative people up, spits them out, and forgets them. Creators have been screwed from the beginning by very unscrupulous businessmen. The only reasons why Siegel & Shuster got their creator credits back on Superman as well a pension was the first Reeve film being made while they were still alive and a few later creators who had a heart and thought it was an injustice what was done to them. DC and WB didn't want the negative publicity for the Reeve film which is why they settled well before the film was released. Siegel spent the rest of his life trying to back more of Superman and his wife destroyed her health attempting to get back the half-ownership of the character BUT he was finally acknowledged as one of Superman's creators in someplace other than the Fleischer/Famous Studio Superman cartoons. DC would have totally wiped his name off all the comics in later reprints if they could have if they had not been shamed in the 1970s while he and Shuster were still alive.
I have no idea what he is talking about. I released my first book, 290 pages, a few weeks ago; and I don't even remember making it. It probably took some effort, but it doesn't seem to me like it did.
Electromagnate, is the name of the book. Thanks for asking. I would work on it each night, after my day is done, for anywhere from 30 minutes, to 6 hours, whatever I could spare each night. It took about 2.5 years to complete the entire book.
It's not for everyone, but it's the same volume of work whether you like it or not. The point is not how many hours did it take, but whether those hours felt like work or like play. You can get a sense for the book at this link: www.electromagnate.net/ Though the pages are not final or ordered at that link. In the actual book there are more pages and the presentation is better. www.electromagnate.net/
This advice is SPOT ON! The comics industry will BREAK YOUR HEART and leave you behind when they're done with you! You better do it for the love, because with few exceptions, there's no money in it...
It's always hard to start a business, especially in a creative field in which buyer's feedback feels so personal. If someone doesn't like story you've worked on for years it seems like a personal attack, even though it clearly is not. Creators have difficulty with that. They also tend not to enjoy he business side of things. It's one thing to work on a passion project and another entirely to try to turn that passion into a successful business.
Rick Remender was an overnight success some ten to thirteen years in the making...kudos for your hard work and your success!
This guy's art is fantastic.
And sometimes a person has to make the choice between honesty and being nice.
Great video! And great to hear Rick's thoughts on the industry.
That's pretty much the advice you get from a majority of people in the industry but there are quite a few people who are overnight success stories. A point about people who have this attitude is you want them to make it sound difficult to join such a small industry, because if they do you're potentially taking there job. I agree with Rick though because comics don't make you money majority of the industry so you'd better love doing it.
You're god damned right you better love it. Watch this cool video, hell yea. Scroll down to check comments...
*Bada Bing Squad*
Rick Remender is the writer who made Sam Wilson Captain America. You realize that, right, Cummings? Nick Spencer just continued it. It was Remender that made Cap a black man.
This is one of the guys you should be hating on, Cummings - instead of bitching about tweets you read from Dan Slott or Mark Waid.
Nick U Deadly class, Fear Agent, Uncanny X Force, Strange Girl...
I cannot bring myself to hate on this dude off one loss
This interview was from 2013, and he's referencing events from 1997... Self publishing is a dramatically different game now.
I loved his Captain America run with Dimension X, etc...
Great video! Thank you for sharing!
This guy also just said if you don't vote the way he likes don't buy his stuff.
Yeah?
I like this Rick Remender
Tom King used Year One in his rebirth arc, I Am Suicide. That was the first time they met (Catwoman and Batman). Anyway nobody wants to write a damn thing because things are so perfect. That is why it is hard to publish.
2:40 pretty much any industry.
This is the last age of comics
Comics will go on but the format will have to evolve and they're going to have run the business differently.
I have a feeling a few independent artists and writers will be able to make it as indies but most people will have to go into a different line of work if say Marvel collapsed. IF Marvel or DC leave the field, that's it for the industry in general. You'll see more comic shops than ever shut down and monthly comic sales will shrivel up to way less than half of what they are even now... Possibly, Diamond will close down, too, but Diamond is not in fantastic shape at the moment, either.
The comic book industry is poorly planned and organized. The behavior of the officers of these companies and the attitude of the creators versus the fans, the whole "versus" mentality, will do the ultimate damage. They do NOT know how to run their business and their attitudes suck. How is a rational person supposed to react to the terrible behavior you witness online other than to flip these guys off and walk away from the hobby and just enjoy what you've got already?
I think personally that if new monthly comics reduced production they'd capitalize more on the backlog of what they have in the archives already and probably do even more reprints just to keep the characters in the public eye somehow.
I have NOT bought anything but reprints (TPBs, hardcovers) since 2010 and most of those have been bought used or on remainder because they're NOT worth $50 and $100! I have no desire to go back to a comic shop and feel much better for NOT giving DC or Marvel my money for monthlies all these years. I collected for the better part of 27 years and that was enough for me!
I've been a soul that encourages people to read books, comics...perhaps that. But at this age, half the population doesn't read anymore. It fucking hurts to see people not reading, loving, caring for NOT themselves. Reading can help you in ways you're not aware of. It's just fucking hurts to see people not being aware of that. The problem here is the world today, I mean I LOVE films but now they treat films-and I'm not alone in this-like it's the next BIG THING! Adaptation after adaptation of books and comic books...might as well let Stephen King or J.K. Rowling or any talented writer to WRITE A FUCKING MOVIE! All I'm saying is, we live in a world where half or almost a whole world doesn't open books and READ. "IF YOU WANT MORE SUPERHERO MOVIES? THEN READ COMICS AND BOOKS! SUPPORT THE SOURCE MATERIALS OF THIS FILMS. IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN THE TRAILER NOW A DAYS THEN SEARCH OF IT WAS BASED ON A BOOK OR A COMIC, THEN READ IT! BUY IT! HALF OF THE CINEMA INDUSTRY GREW BECAUSE OF BOOKS AND COMICS...SO WHY NOT SUPPORT THEM TOO!" THERE IS A GUY I KNOW THAT REFUSE TO WATCH ADAPTATION OF HIS FAVORITE COMIC BOOKS BECAUSE IT'S RUINING THE SOURCE MATERIAL...! SEE!? Anyway, just... support your local comic book shops or...wait for marvel and dc to shut down and let new writers release and bring back comics but the question...will it come? Will it rise again like it used to back in the 80s?
thats some real shit
I notice a lot of past creators, namely him and guys like Starlin and David, they become embittered after so many years in the industry. I've seen this kind of thing before. In fact, comic book history is rife with it.
Siegel & Shuster -- 'NUFF SAID!
They define the beginning of the industry and the way it chews creative people up, spits them out, and forgets them.
Creators have been screwed from the beginning by very unscrupulous businessmen.
The only reasons why Siegel & Shuster got their creator credits back on Superman as well a pension was the first Reeve film being made while they were still alive and a few later creators who had a heart and thought it was an injustice what was done to them. DC and WB didn't want the negative publicity for the Reeve film which is why they settled well before the film was released. Siegel spent the rest of his life trying to back more of Superman and his wife destroyed her health attempting to get back the half-ownership of the character BUT he was finally acknowledged as one of Superman's creators in someplace other than the Fleischer/Famous Studio Superman cartoons.
DC would have totally wiped his name off all the comics in later reprints if they could have if they had not been shamed in the 1970s while he and Shuster were still alive.
@@AvengerII Bill Finger.
What was the comic that he mentioned around 1:23?
Batman Year One - Frank Miller
I have no idea what he is talking about. I released my first book, 290 pages, a few weeks ago; and I don't even remember making it. It probably took some effort, but it doesn't seem to me like it did.
Johnrap11
what's it called
Electromagnate, is the name of the book. Thanks for asking. I would work on it each night, after my day is done, for anywhere from 30 minutes, to 6 hours, whatever I could spare each night. It took about 2.5 years to complete the entire book.
It's not for everyone, but it's the same volume of work whether you like it or not. The point is not how many hours did it take, but whether those hours felt like work or like play. You can get a sense for the book at this link: www.electromagnate.net/ Though the pages are not final or ordered at that link. In the actual book there are more pages and the presentation is better. www.electromagnate.net/
Not so much effort. More dedictation repetition & habit inking first 32 pages of comic yet have 82 all together
Just checked out your work. You got the skills, so out of interest now 3 years later, how are you doing now? and has it worked out?
Lol, dingleberry
comics industry will RUF U UP
Just a small.... "remender" about the comic industry....
BITTER GATEKEEPER
He's pretty weird
not a very likable personality.
pointless interview.
Why?
Cuz he doesn’t want to help anyone
Cant help anyone if you are in a rut in the industry.