Jealousy in Dance | Previous Ballet Dancers + Vaganova students Talk | Everyone can succeed!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มี.ค. 2023
- Hello Everyone,
Today I am discussing with my gorgeous friend and BWI content creator Suvi Honkanen about Jealousy! We all know that feeling, how to deal with it, how to grow from it and how to change the perspective!
Read Suvis Jealousy article on my website! Amazing read
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Hello everyone! my names Isabella.
I am the first British graduate to join the Vaganova ballet academy at 15 in Saint Petersburg Russia and graduate. I was a soloist working with the Mikhailovsky Ballet and Eifman ballet.
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also i'm thinking that a dance teacher has a big influence on feelings of jealousy in their class. i've had teachers that create a safe environment where everyone can grow at their own speed and where we helped each other, it meant that a difference in background, experience and skill level was not creating friction. but then there's teachers that really stimulate competitiveness, or who constantly call attention to someone's shape, or how behind everyone else they are. in this kind of environment there is jealousy on all sides even from the most positive, kind people.
2/ Summary
33:03 Isabella: "Jealousy. Normal emotion. We feel it all the time. Being aware of it is really important. Focus more on yourself. Being happy for other people. Realizing there is room for everyone. You're on your own path. Things will work out.
You can't control things. You can't control someone else's outcome."
Suvi: "But you can try to control your emotions and you can find tools and ways to deal with these negative emotions. If it's not this podcast, maybe it's a friend, or it's a parent, maybe it's a professional person, therapist, or someone."
Listen to the whole conversation to get the full benefit!
When I danced, I could see that jealousy sapped your energy. I simply did the best I could every day. It was how had the strength to work had. I loved ballet. Now I teach.
Isabella, your candor is incredibly attractive. Thanks for being so real with us. I wish this channel a huge amount of success.
6/ Suvi, wow, that was very vulnerable and brave of you to admit you felt some - may I say Schadenfreude - when the young successful dancer in your company injured her foot. Not many people would be able to admit that, and some not even to themselves. 👏🌻 I'm so glad you decided to speak to her, and were able to feel empathy, and that you realized how much time and energy you had wasted.
That you became friends is really heartwarming. 🥹
Thank you, ladies, for this touching and inspirational interview!
Isabella, please bring Suvi to your podcast often! 🙏💐🌺🌸😄🩰
Thank you! I plan to! ❤❤
@@balletwithisabella Hooray!! 👏💐❤💕
Coming on the back of International Women's day really useful to see issues around jealousy, pride, envy, fear and anger given oxygen on this podcast.
The lengths that women go to because of jealousy is why we will never make any progress.
i swear to god, i think i randomly ending buying the same coffee cup as you, isabella, and it's made my morning! cheers! ❤
haha that's amazing
1/ Dear Young Dancers and All Girls and Women: This might be one of the most inspirational women- and -dancer empowering conversations I have ever heard!
Dear Isabella and Suvi:
I congratulate you, fellow ladies, for being brave enough, and honest enough to talk about jealousy in the dance world!
When I saw the title, I assumed you two would be talking about people who were jealous of you, and who tried to sabotage you, as I assumed you would have multiple stories about this.
Boy, was I surprised!
Your very thought-provoking conversation provoked so many thoughts, that, if you don't mind, I'm going to split up my comments into various parts. Hopefully that will also help the algorithm so that TH-cam recommends this video to a wider audience. 😃
4/ It's wonderful that you have discovered that being happy for others increases your own happiness. This is a valuable lesson. Each of us can choose how to feel about a situation. When I finally figured that out, it was one of the most empowering epiphanies I have ever had!
Suvi: "It's hard to be happy for someone if you feel like they don't deserve something." 🎯
Very, very true. However, one can take a step back and ask oneself, "Is that the person's fault that they received the coveted role or award? Or is it the favouritism of the teacher or that she's the boss' daughter or that her father owns the building?"
When I watch gymnastics, I start to feel resentment against gymnasts whom I perceive to be continually overscored. I have to take a step back and ask myself, "Is it the gymnast's fault? Of course not. She has no control over what the judges decide to score her. So I should just relax and enjoy this athlete's routine and appreciate the routine for what it is regardless of how the judges react."
Of course, there's a whole new level of emotion when that person behaves like they deserve everything they get, and when they brag about it and tell others, "You could be successful if you just do what I do." OK, that is a petty and insecure person. They have a problem, but you can choose to ignore the pettiness and focus on your own path.
3/ I'm not a dancer, but I'm a middle-aged woman with life experiences which include training in an environment similar to your Vaganova experience, although for a completely different career, and I was in my 20s, which is a considerable age difference.
Although I'm a lifelong tomboy who loves sports, I eventually and thankfully learned to appreciate ballet, and I love watching videos on all aspects of ballet. I've watched numerous interviews on your channel, which are all very informative and very well done!
The Vaganova Academy experience, which I have heard and read quite a lot about, including your experiences, sounds to me like growing up in a pressure-cooker environment that is also a self-contained bubble where ballet is the only thing that matters. It's no wonder these feelings of jealousy arise; it would be shocking if they did not.
5/ I am very glad you introduced us to this Korean reality show!
Isabella: "The contestants have so much respect for each other. As dancers, we can learn from this."
Suvi: "They found a way to be grateful for the challenge" even if the challenge was unfair, like a weightlifter, who has to speed-rope-climb against a mountain climber.
Comparison is the thief of joy. Again, Suvi is completely correct that adjusting one's perspective is very helpful. One doesn't know what is going on in the personal life of the person one feels jealous of, nor what is in that person's future.
Another important realization is that everybody is on their own path through life. One has one's own path, Jane Doe may look like she's on the same path as one, but she has her own path with her own struggles. Stay in one's own lane, focus on the potential for continual self-improvement while also choosing to be happy for others.
I needed this
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People get jealous because we make everything about competing. This is a part of living in societies that use bosses and money. The bosses end up with the money, and the art ends up being what the bosses like. So everyone begins competing to do art that the bosses like with only a limited amount of boss money available to support artists.
Another way to do it is to make certain everyone has food, shelter and the things they need to create, and they let them have at it.
In such situations you start seeing a lot more collaboration and cooperation among artists.
Great
Oh, my gawd, I'm so jealous of both of your wiggling!! I WANT THAT WIGGLING!!! But to be serious - I wonder if Jealosy is on a spectrum (right at the end), Envy a bit less severe? Perhaps as someone older coming to dance late jealousy hasn't been a thing, envy pops up now and again and fades like a spark.. but I certainly covet: "oooh, I like that, I like that a lot - I want some of that so much!" But then it can be turned to, "how the heck do I experience what has been shown?" It's not a personal thing, I do not consider the person possesses something I do not have have, rather they have a training, a feeling, an expression.. how do I get to it? What do I need to do to find what I feel I lack?
i don't get jealous of people for nailing their pirouettes when i struggle, it's easy for me to be happy for them and seeing them progress. i celebrate with others when they succeed. but i DO envy people with bodies that are more suited for ballet, people who don't have so much pain when dancing and people who at 20 years old, have more healthy years left than myself (40+).
We, I'm arrogantly speaking for others, like Suzy on the broadcast.
I am not a native English speaking, but always thought to be jealousy and envy is different thing.
Jealousy - when you want to take over that thing, envy - when you want to have the same.
You were envy, but you did nothing harmful for others, as jealous people do, don't you?
Native speaker here. That isn't really a meaningful distinction. If there was ever a difference in meaning, I can't think of any nuances now. It's more usual to talk about being jealous of a person.
@@jessaglenny Kim, you are correct re distinctions, but both envy and jealousy, energetically, speaking, flow out of extreme self-absorption or self-focus to the exclusion and so disconnection from others. If you consider hate and love at opposite ends of the feeling/behavioural spectrum we humans tend to balance comfortably somewhere in the middle. Our orientation, our direction of focus can send us too far either way.
I read an article recently, which said that people are scared to use the word envy nowadays, because it's so powerful and taboo, so they use jealousy instead, although it refers to a slightly different thing actually.
So based on that you are right
It would be nice to tip envy over into admiration. As for jealousy, it’s a sickness of permanent discontent, endless comparisons and non-accountability (for personal growth) :(
What do you think of Black Swan movie
I have read Suvi article about her earing disorders, I dont think her problems are unique, its just the path of balerina is too demanding and unhealthy