Bretonnia In Depth Guide! TW3 Immortal Empires

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  • @Arachanoid98
    @Arachanoid98 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My favorite faction a couple things I want to go ahead and say. Bretonnia doesn't have to worry about supply lines, they have an insanely strong economy basically every settlement build both a farm and a windmill building. You shouldn't ever dip too much into your peasant economy and mid to late game your entire army should be straight knights. Early game I like to just recruit just straight Knight of the Realm and spam them later on you can upgrade to Questing Knights then Grail Knights. Remember to do your vows, I cannot stress that enough, best thing to do is recruit a lord and have him shadow your main army to collect experience and complete vow quests. Regarding their cavalry units they are very strong, key thing with battles is use your speed to your advantage and pick your engagements, the enemy can't catch you so stay on the move (this goes double for those with the Perfect Vigor trait) and pick off priority targets, focus on artillery, then fast units, then ranged, then finally ending with melee infantry.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very good advice!

    • @maddogs1989
      @maddogs1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean if you want to just build cheese armies you can do this.
      I literally play on very hard with the peasant men at arms with shields well into the late game with no more then 6 cav units and barely have an issue and that's only using Knights of the Realm and standard Pegasus Knights.
      Bretonnia plays very good doing the tactic that they actually use in lore. Men at arm fronts, backed up by Bowmen and trebuchets. Knights on the flanks and encircling the enemy when or attacking the enemy flanks forcing the attacking army to divert troops to deal with the cav. Knights of the Realm when stated up under a bretonnia lord, building buffs and research done beat all other horse Cavalry in the game.

    • @randomusernameCallin
      @randomusernameCallin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maddogs1989 I realy heavily on a pocket when I play with clavery. I would not have survived when some like four armies attack mine with out it.

    • @maddogs1989
      @maddogs1989 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomusernameCallin Bud I've been attacked by 3 armies with the cav the way I said and had zero issues

    • @ZeriocTheTank
      @ZeriocTheTank ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@maddogs1989This is how I prefer to play myself. Doomstacks are boring. Even if I suffer as a consequence.

  • @waitbalthy6342
    @waitbalthy6342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    These guides are so good man, can’t tell you how much I enjoy watching them! This game is really mechanic heavy and I’d be lost without them. Having a blast playing a campaign with Cathay, next will be bretonia to break with Cathay’s defensive play style. You earned a like and a sub

  • @shaunsmith4747
    @shaunsmith4747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a gem of the channel, currently setting myself a challenge to play through all factions alphabetically. Just a way of getting myself out of only playing Empire, High Elves and Skaven. I have 1000 hours in TW2 and didn't do half the races. These guides are perfect my friends. What puts me off is that it can take a few restarts to learn all the ins and outs of factions.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it's part of the reason I did the guides my friends were complaining about having to restart over and over

  • @Yuuretsu
    @Yuuretsu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Somehow I'd never noticed Paladins giving a ward save bonus to nearby Lords and Heroes despite playing Bretonnia since Warhammer 2. Goes to show you can teach an old dog new tricks after all. Thanks for the video.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to help! Hope that helps you keep lords alive more!

  • @michaelmorton6566
    @michaelmorton6566 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alberic should be given the Ship Building Mechanics and his Quests and Victory Conditions should be to wipe out the Vampire Coast Factions

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would be a good change especially since he desperately needs a rework of something

  • @thebrokenmask8304
    @thebrokenmask8304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I feel like bretonnia is underated. While I dont often play them I always enjoy their mid/late game campaign. Once you pop off you pop off HARD.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They are just lacking in interesting stuff but are strong, kind of like lizardmen!

  • @davidfinch7407
    @davidfinch7407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I got so good with Bretonnia in WH2 it got boring. So I tried WH3...there was a full stack of Orcs, Undead, and stack of Chaos with advanced units all attacking within a few turns. It seemed impossible to hold on to two cities, let alone think about expanding. Going to try again now.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's rough you need to defend at lot at times.

  • @GraveGhoul04
    @GraveGhoul04 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ll definitely be taking this advice. I’d also love to see a dark elf video in the future! Keep up the good work

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Plan is for dark elves tomorrow probably!

  • @jansandman6983
    @jansandman6983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like ur guides man, it's so informative

  • @MrFunkhouser
    @MrFunkhouser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I started watching some of the other guides. First off, you are amazing.
    Secondly, I came back to this one because I've always really liked Brettonia, But I've always done terrible. And part of it is because I always try to unify bertonia first. Then always go for lightning strikes and I try to expand way too quickly.
    So I really appreciate your time going through all the stuff and then sharing your opinions and whatnot on the different units because I was going in a completely different way and what you said makes sense. I was always building them like a traditional army. I would just maybe have like five or six Calvary versus the two or three that I normally keep.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Still doing it a bit wrong, try 10+ cav or even full cav

    • @MrFunkhouser
      @MrFunkhouser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind when I start my new campaign I'm going to look at doing that and just doing primarily Calvary with some artillery... I think this may explain though why I've never done good with them.
      But I also didn't know a lot about the physical resistance and the bonus to that and some of the stuff.
      Do you have a video where you talk about armor and how that works And what armor and shielded means? And all that kind of stuff?
      I mean a lot of it's probably pretty straightforward but like if I have the choice to choose between plus four armor or plus for weapon strength or whatever. I have no idea which one to do.
      With this said I have hundreds of hours into the game and I still don't even know half of what I'm doing. :p

    • @MrFunkhouser
      @MrFunkhouser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      These are all just sandbox mostly without mods and mortal/immortal with 2-3:
      WH: 32 hrs.
      WH 2: 776 hrs.
      WH 3: 74 hrs.
      Now some of those hours I left the game running overnight accidentally, And then oftentimes I'll have the game playing and then in between turns I'll go and do like other things like if I'm writing or whatever.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrFunkhouser I passed grad school with tw2 turn length allowing for doing work during them

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont have a video around that stuff, people who understand it more than me have already done better videos. But off hand get melee defense over attack or weapon strength, it makes your units get hit less which is usually more important than hitting or doing more dmg if you hit. Its why some lords are combat oriented over others.
      All the resistances reduce any dmg taken by a%, which is why ward save is nuts since it applies to all dmg.
      Armor is good to get since it reduces dmg take on each hit but once you get above 100 or so, its less useful especially if you are fighting enemies with magic attacks, who ignore armor or physical resistance. Early on though and vs normal enemies its amazing.

  • @berthold64
    @berthold64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally indepth guide, been a while I played the Brets

  • @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs
    @SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im super excited for when my first ever PC arrives, as i bought all the Total Warhammer games in the most recent winter sale for steam!! Im thinking either Bretonnia, Wood Elves, Norsca or Azazel/Valkia as my forat proper campaign

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd recommend the dwarfs as your first game until you get used to all the systems. Cathay or lizardmen are also good ones to start with.
      Brit has a very slow start, wood elves are completely different from all other factions, Norsca is hard, warriors of chaos again play very differently than the other factions.

  • @primedknight5906
    @primedknight5906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, been waiting for this one. For the Lady.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only the knew she was elven...

  • @dukenukem4447
    @dukenukem4447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The timing on this video is perfect as I was just thinking to myself it's time to learn how to play those silly sounding fridge magnet cosplayers who live next to the Empire. Thanks for taking the time to make this and sharing it with us, I look forward to honoring ze lady! *incomprehensiblefrenchhonking*

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy to help! Good luck and learn to love heavy cav!

  • @cHaMp630
    @cHaMp630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My strategy with bretonnia goes something like; Have 4 lords sticking together to boost chivalry income and blob the ai in battle to get destroyed, spam archers + catapults in 1 or 2 of those armies, skip every non peasant archer / catapult unit and then spam hippogryphs or flying paladins late game with healing support.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yep thats Britonnia in a nutshell!

  • @seb35c5
    @seb35c5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really helpful, thank you

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to hear it! Enjoy some heroic charges!

  • @darthtom100
    @darthtom100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for this one! I like your video formats but Bretonnia and Vampire Coast are the only races I haven't ever been able to get into.

  • @MrDavis-oz6uw
    @MrDavis-oz6uw ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a good and helpful video

  • @bigthoughts2644
    @bigthoughts2644 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the bretonnian industry a little trick is to grow it then demolish the windmill or the storage whatever. This will leave the settlement with a Tier 3 farm or industry building. Not 50% buffed but double its tier one production

  • @jasondoherty7497
    @jasondoherty7497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In future is it possible to talk about which factions to build outposts in would be most beneficial to there play style or bonuses, also would you do guides for mods whether for warhammer 3 or imperator Rome those imperator Rome guides really helped me when starting the game in vanilla and modded

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I might do a guide at the end for good outpost allies, but I find usually its hard to control that for most of the game and any ally you get has decent units to recruit from. I am open to do guides/reviews of mods, if you have any to recommend let me know. I'll probably do some on the TW3 Grimhammer mod once it is a bit more developed.

    • @jasondoherty7497
      @jasondoherty7497 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind I would say the Terra indomita mod for imperator Rome

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasondoherty7497 downloading it to check it out.

  • @hybralisk
    @hybralisk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah, you forgot to mention the Battle Pilgrims! Don't worry, CA forgot to add their card icon to the building they'd be recruited from. They are worth mentioning if you ever get a chance to, I enjoy having a couple of them kicking around for fun. :) *edit* whoops, I kept watching and you remembered to cover them later during the tech section. Sorry for commenting too early! XD

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, it's okay. I felt dumb missing them.

  • @mrlillian1
    @mrlillian1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job mate, hope it's Norsca next

  • @bri3182
    @bri3182 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reason why the Confed tree seems off is because you get plus 50% income from ports for Louann so it encourages you travel down the coast first then get the inner continent. Also for confederation you can spend 700 chivalry 5000 gold or do nothing and get 300 chivalry.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's odd to say the least.

    • @gregtaylor9806
      @gregtaylor9806 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Current patch, not a single Bretonnian nation exists after turn 15 or 20. It’s crazy 😂

    • @gregtaylor9806
      @gregtaylor9806 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *on the Brentonnian peninsula at least.

  • @chrisbergonzi7977
    @chrisbergonzi7977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In TWW2 the recipe was build farms in every minor settlement except Gold or Iron resource settlements. In those, you use industry. Is that still the case? Great stuff man...scribed up...thanks.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cool, thanks. If you want money you can just use farms, industry in gold or iron isnt a requirement anymore. Overall I just tend to use industry most of the time myself.

    • @chrisbergonzi7977
      @chrisbergonzi7977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LordForwind thanks pal...

  • @Serrrdel
    @Serrrdel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love ur vids pls keep em comin

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will do, planning to do every faction!

  • @stoxx399
    @stoxx399 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great guide! I went from getting crushed even though I cheated infinite money to conquering bretonia easy without cheating. Now I only need to figure out how to Safe the completely crushed empire from counts and Norma 😂

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  ปีที่แล้ว

      The passes are really good for delay invasions.

  • @psychedellictoxin1195
    @psychedellictoxin1195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's not mentioned with the blessed field trebuchet is that it has no friendly fire.

  • @kevinharvey9500
    @kevinharvey9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The issue with bretonnia is that until you complete the grail vow the upkeep even for knights errant is like 500 something maybe?

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah it's rough but you have to take it early to get units capable of fighting

    • @kevinharvey9500
      @kevinharvey9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind yea I love steam rolling with an army 3/4 cav

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinharvey9500 it's super fun!

  • @JayJay-wf2oe
    @JayJay-wf2oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think building farms is way better because the farm line not only provides growth but also unlocks recruitment of peasant bowmen which is the ONLY decent peasant unit for their worth. Yes with farms you need to be careful with the peasant cap, but without farms and peasant bowmen what's the point of removing peasant caps anyway when regular peasant infantries are just useless?
    Regardless, awesome guide, definitely one of the best quality around.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its just personal preference. I usually do at least one province with farms to get the bowman but you want the main recruitment center to be workshops for the training bonus

    • @phaeral7507
      @phaeral7507 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw on my trials that with all the technologies boosts, which are better for industries than for farms, you will get with the industry near the equivalent amount of gold with the farms (50 to 100 € of gold), but it's a long term investment (and at the end of the game you needn't growth, the other bonuses are better).

  • @borolf
    @borolf ปีที่แล้ว

    nice guide

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Hopefully it helped you!

  • @MrFunkhouser
    @MrFunkhouser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for posting this. If you've played the Grand Cathey, do you think bertonia would be better or worse having a peasant system like what they have where you're able to take things to make the peasants better and better over time but still keep the peasant economy features

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to help! Yes I have done GC and even done a guide on them.
      Maybe? but as far as I understand it, that mechanic is straight from the tabletop game (never played myself) so I doubt it. I kind of like the weak peasants but I think they need a dismounted knight unit though or even a ranged cav knight units. Historically most knight knew how to use bows!

    • @MrFunkhouser
      @MrFunkhouser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind ooo! I need to watch the guide on them.
      This is the first video of yours I've watched, very helpful!!

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrFunkhouser Great to have you join us then! Enjoy!

  • @kevinharvey9500
    @kevinharvey9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I confederate with the other bretonian faction with repanse I had to disband a ton of units. Is this the strategy you would've done? It was badly hurting my economy. I still really didn't have the income to support 2 full armies. What's your input on that? I always enjoy your opinion.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It happens especially if you are using too many peasants. But also because each faction has a default income regardless of land so a minor faction with 1 province will be more profitable than another owning 2 provinces. Its just a normal issue, I tend to delay confederations so I dont have money issues until im built up more.

    • @kevinharvey9500
      @kevinharvey9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind yea the confederated faction had a full stack plus they were building another that's why I had to disband most of their army just to stabilize my economy, and get the peasants under control

  • @hihi2667
    @hihi2667 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone know why bretonnian generic lords have a red/black color scheme as Couronne?

  • @Icesong
    @Icesong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your description talks about High Elves.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ooops thats wrong, thanks it didnt save my changes

  • @impg8801
    @impg8801 ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate the video, helped a lot. Heard they reworked the faction, so is there an info here thats irrelevant now?

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not immensely, the changes weren't massive. Peasants get leadership near knights, some knights numbers changed etc. Nothing guide breaking.

    • @impg8801
      @impg8801 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind Bet, thanks!

    • @impg8801
      @impg8801 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind Bet, thanks!

  • @m1sterSunshine
    @m1sterSunshine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bretonnia not being able to channel winds of magic is unfortunate as well.

  • @wellimagamer8848
    @wellimagamer8848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do I get bretonnia. i have warhammer 3 but i dont have warhammer 1 so i cant download the DLC. how do i get it for warhammer 3

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have to buy one to get it

  • @YukonJack88
    @YukonJack88 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason I don't play Cav armies, is because of how they actual game play seems broken.
    Have you actually tried to extract your charged cav out of a blob? Enemies stick to your horses as they move out and away to get fully clear to setup another charge. Shit on a blank...... Running a full cav army seems daunting if you want to get off charge bonuses...
    Or have I missed something? I'd love to get feedback on this..

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep clicking with the unit and they will pull out.

  • @kevinharvey9500
    @kevinharvey9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my campaigns with fay the enchantress the wood elves become my most powerful enemy. They are relentless in trying to take my settlements from me, and have even caused me to abandon one of my campaigns. Is this something you've experienced?

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can happen, try researching the tech that improves relations with them and they should calm down.

    • @kevinharvey9500
      @kevinharvey9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwindI remember now....I attacked one of their settlements while we were at peace....yea that's what started it. My new campaign is doing much better. We still have a strong alliance, and we've been fending off attacks from beastmen and skaven. They may still someday attack me and break it.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinharvey9500 yeah avoid attacking the elves, its not even that they are a pain to fight, you get almost nothing for it except an annoyingly persistent enemy

  • @brysonstevens1431
    @brysonstevens1431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like Bretonia, but man early game is rough.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, slow building faction but strong once you get past it.

  • @kevinharvey9500
    @kevinharvey9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea repanse was the first campaign I've ever lost in total war history, and you just acted like she was easy to use lol. I can't seem to use the early peasant units.....they fight for 2 seconds then route. I have no idea how to fight battles with them. I know their a calvary nation, but even early on the cav units route too. I'm assuming it's the fear caused by vampiric units and undead. I got hit continuously by tombkings and vampires until they finished me off, and this was on normal lol. I literally was attacked 5 times in one turn.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peasant units are distractions. Just charge over and over with knight units, winning as her early is super easy. Just don't slow down until both of your initial enemies are dead. I wish I could help more but it's easy even on high level difficulties.

    • @kevinharvey9500
      @kevinharvey9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind you're the first person I've heard say she's easy. Bretonnia was listed ad one of the most difficult factions to play, or it was on the a video I watched yesterday....I do know repanse is a beast tho

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinharvey9500 I sometimes have issue with the other Britonnians, but never Repanse, so .... yeah?

  • @LandofMert76
    @LandofMert76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too many limiting mechanics for me to deal with. thanks for the guide

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep np, they are totally in line for a rework and hopefully it will improve them!

    • @LandofMert76
      @LandofMert76 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind and I thought Cathay was a pain.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LandofMert76 nope cathay is relatively easy compared to some other factions

  • @thehonestaspy102
    @thehonestaspy102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Step 1: Never play Bretonia 😂
    I love your guides but until Bretonia get some solid foot or a dismount toggle they just aren't worth playing imo

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Legit anti bretonnia strat. But I highly doubt they will change military much in a rework.

    • @berthold64
      @berthold64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You use lords and paladins if you hate micros. It's literally ctrl+a and right click on enemy

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berthold64 basically

  • @blairdurward4324
    @blairdurward4324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peasent bowman are good because of the battle of agincourt, the whole of Bretonnia is made of harasses, just some of them are ugly and stupid, still killing machines though lol.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agincourt is super interesting to read about, in game that strength makes some sense

  • @ethanv8679
    @ethanv8679 ปีที่แล้ว

    please stop saying halebards... pleaseeee (HALLLBIRDSS)

  • @anothertarnishedone5960
    @anothertarnishedone5960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Imho, Bretonnia needs a rework. Has been almost the same faction since the first game, and is boring.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, still strong though!

  • @HeezyHaskew
    @HeezyHaskew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to play Bretonnia... don't.

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or do and love the cavalry

    • @HeezyHaskew
      @HeezyHaskew 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LordForwind Can't play with the awesome cavalry until you accomplish the boring vows with nothing but peasants which are worse than zombies and you can't even spam them since they're limited by number of farms. Bretonnia early game is so boring, slow, and un-fun

    • @LordForwind
      @LordForwind  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HeezyHaskew your legendary lords can use good cav at the start so its not that limiting