You're actually wrong. The Daredevil and Punisher in those games weren't the originals, they were some friends of Hawkeye's granddaughter that ended up taking up those monikers.
Was it Hawkeye's daughter or granddaughter? I thought it was his daughter. Either way you are correct, that was not the original DD and Punisher, they were with her. The original DD would've been very old at that point, like Hawkeye was.
I don't think he is wrong, in my opinion, and I could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt. If Daredevil and the Punisher die this early into the doomsday event of the supervillans killing of heros that there would be little to no memory of them that far into the future. Just how it seems to me.
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Was sent bad chills seeing how the heroes fell in OLM. All I think after watching this video is "Fuck Magneto, Fuck HYDRA, Fuck Red Skull, Mysterio all those bastards" I know it's just a comic book at the end of the day but at the same time it goes to show how powerful the OLM story is to the reader.
Kevin old man Logan will probably be known as the best wolverine in marvel history. Don't get me wrong I loved wolverine before old man Logan but they added so much more to the character with that story compared to what they had done before also I don't mined x23 as the new "wolverine " but in my mined she doesn't exactly fill the void
Rob I stopped reading comics back in the early '90's but I've been checking out you site for maybe 2 or more years and you are doing an excellent job. You're work and research on these stories are FIRE!!! It's hard for me to catch up on all of the many back issues of various comics I've missed, but you have kept me well informed on everything and I always look forward to what you have coming up next to touch on. Peace and much respect!!!! If you can, I am interested in you covering more of the better one-shot What If... scenerios. Only the better ones though.
I'm not 100% sure Rob, but the Daredevil that was killed in that pit in Old man Logan was just some guy wearing the gear of Daredevil at that point, I think (again not 100% sure) Logan and Hawkeye were the only Hero's left in the world....well O.G. Hero's I should say
What i always found interesting with the OML universe is that the villains pretty much pulled a 'Wanted' move here sans reality reboot (Wiki 'Wanted' to get that reference) and Jeff went into a little more detail on what happened. [As for that continuity error, it can be fixed if: a)Enchantress actually teleported DD and Logan thought he died b)DD did die and that was someone else in his costume in the OML book c) Logan's admits that his memories are a little shaky due to trauma and age and doesn't know if DD survived or not] Loving these vids. :)
Pretty sure the Daredevil as you mentioned at 6:04 was someone else trying to re-take up his mantel (in a semi-similar manner that Spider-girl was trying to do). The Daredevil in the original Old Man Logan series has younger hair and he doesn't actually look blind.
i used to watch comicstorians videos, but i've had to switch to watching yours exclusively. The level of enthusiasm you have for comics is unmatched :D Keep doing what you do Rob, doing a great job.
@@idontknowwhattoputformyuse1104 facts. We need more context cause spiderman can take a really bad beating. If spiderman isnt known for his strength he is known for his stats in defense.
What I find interesting is that in the original Mark Millar series, it showed Bucky Barnes as captain America dying before the red skull. The book never actually tells us what happens to Steve Rogers. What if hydra Steve rogers and the red skull orchestrated the overthrow of the superheroes, but Logan never knew about Steve Rogers role? Hydra captain America still exist in the 616 timeline and he knows that Logan comes from an alternative universe where superheroes were overtaken by hydra. If you take the visions that Ulysses had in Civil War II, Logan's apocalyptic future may still happen if Steve Roger has his way. Logan may be doomed to relive his future.
Mujtaba Ellari it is. If you look back, you will see that Captain America uniform is the same uniform Bucky Barnes adopted after captain America died. That could take costume was used exclusively by Bucky Barnes. I really wondered why Mark Miller chose to do that. Maybe that was his way of telling us that Steve Rogers is still alive
It's amazing that with old man logan spider-man villains can pose a serious threat. Kraven killed Punisher and Mysterio made logan kill the x men. If you told me this and these stories didnt exist I would call you crazy. And other C-list villains. The mole man helping kill hank pym. What!
It was friends of Ashley Barton who took up the mantles of daredevil and punisher. If you look closely at the old man Logan daredevil, he has brown hair. in every comic portrayal of daredevil, Matt Murdock is a redhead.
Just something I think would be cool as a weekly/monthly video. It would be really interesting to see a top 5 toughest battles of a particular character. Like Wolverine's top 5 toughest fights, whether 1 on 1 or a group and then next month do a top 5 toughest fights of Batman, etc. You could give a little backstory as to why the fight is happening and why it was such a challenging fight for whatever character you chose that month. Just an idea, love your videos. Big fan!
I was always wishing for a prequel to old man Logan showing how the heroes were defeated. This kind of satisfied that, but I still hope against hope that it will be it's on one shot. Wow dropping an aircraft carrier on the New York skyline is a hell of a way to set it off. If the the super villains worked together in any universe could this happen? Would the DC heroes fall as well?
I love ur work bro I have one sided friendship with you honestly while I'm on duty performing my "heroic " civil duties you're with me. You actually give me someone to talk to which in turn always me to come back a lot faster from officer mode. Thanks bro you are awesome and I hope you get everything you want and need for your life
I thought that Daredevil died by the original supervillain attack because in one of the alternate covers for the original Old Man Logan series you can see Daredevil's corpse in this giant hole filled with superhero corpses, and because Daredevil's costume is in Red Skull's trophy room. I thought that the African American Kingpin had just gotten his hands on one of Daredevil's costumes and forced those who betrayed the Kingpin to wear the Daredevil suit in a gladiatorial match against a dinosaur.
Batfreeze Rob must've made a mistake about Daredevil being alive in the present time of the original Old Man Logan. Im pretty sure you're correct that it was some dude wearing the suit
I wanna see Hydra Cap replace Red Skull and end up leading an attack on the superhero community as an event. And maybe Old Man Logan could end up killing Hydra Cap.
The Daredevil and Punisher from Old Man Logan weren't Matt Murdock and Frank Castle, instead they were some of Spider Woman's (Hawkeye's Daughter) resistance movement against the Kingpin.
OML is a Villain-Sue-verse. Everyone who normally can't stand each other works together perfectly. Everyone who normally might rat it out keeps silent. Sorry, my opinion.
Yeah, i was actually expecting an explanation of why so many dudes who hate each other or doesn't even intereact with each other could managed to work togheter. Still, everything looks awesome!
It looks great. But why didn't the canon villains ever do this? My alt-take : Have the world we saw the result of 'final battles' between heroes and villains, with the survivors creating fiefdoms after. 'The Bads just surged fwd one day' is to my mind a weak premise in a world of egos, grudges, and deeply felt vendettas.
In a multiverse theory, every possibility that could ever happen DID happen, in some alternate universe. So there was ONE universe out there where all the villains were able to work together and take over the world.
Wow I really love the Old Man Logan ANAD and Original Storyline, I just want more satisfaction with what happened to more of the superheroes. Honestly it could be its own short story.
Love your enthusiasm Rob. It really is great, with all the chances made to ANAD Marvel it's not as easy to get excited about some of these stories. I was really turned off by Steve Rogers being a Hydra agent at first but with this new level of suspense it's pretty great.
The Punisher died when the super villains took over. In the original "Old Man Logan" it was a regular guy, who took up his mantel alongside a new Daredevil (who wasn't blind) and the new (female) Spiderman and daughter of the still living original Hawkeye.
I'm pretty sure the Daredevil death is fine and that the Daredevil you see in King Pin's pit is just a new guy wearing the costume, like Spider-man grand daughter.
there should be a mini series where the events that led up to Old Man Logan (as seen here) begins to happen. Maybe Ulysses returns and has a vision and the villians do team up. so its a matter of not just stopping them but preventing Logan's universe from coming
Ok so 3 things: 1. This story was good, fleshing out the old man Logan story world is a great idea. I would like to see how some of the heroes became villains, specifically Hulk. 2. Sooooo HAPPY how they have taken a lot of the rage people had over Caps reveal being part of Hydra and made it into one of the best stories they are churning out right now, I got why people were upset but hope no ones bitching about it anymore. 3. LOGAN AND JEAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN CREEPY/OK depending on how you felt from the start. You have to remember, when they were hinting in the old comics about the connection they had, which ultimately never truly materialised (bar alternate worlds), he would have been close to 100 or more years old. Shes been fighting since she was like 15, its was odd from the start, was always a though of mine when I was reading x-men as a teen (that and Dirty Dancing) and my conclusion.....meh (not meh with dirty dancing though), its too late to complain now, so I just hoped they would get together and get that madness out the way.
Thai doesn't add up. In old man Logan, it said the absorbing man and magneto killed Thor in Los Vegas. That's why magneto took control of Vegas now calling it hammer falls. Where was Thor while New York was being destroyed?
+colprom If that is true, why wasn't Thor present in New York for the first strike? Who else but magneto, could hold Thor at bay? The entire point of the villain attack was to all attack at once and overwhelm the heroes, there wouldn't be a second strike. This version has way too many inconsistencies anyways, such as with daredevil and punisher also, I personally wouldn't consider it cannon.
TheCelticTiger32 don't act like just because you misunderstood something, you can use it as a valid argument as to why the store is flawed. Daredevil and punisher died. The two guys that got eaten by the dinosaurs were just two guys that were inspired by daredevil and punisher (like Spider bitch, and even Miles morales, even tho he doesnt have anything to do with this universe)
Steve Rogers should inform Hydra of what happened in the Old Man Logan universe, and take red skulls place in the new Old Man Logan universe, also making everything happen close to how it did in the original Old Man Logan universe but with critical differences like Steve getting found out in the process and Old Man Logan dying/ being stopped in the process also, making a new what if scenario where it will be what if Steve's plan Had have worked, Making a new ongoing series about the New Old Man Logan universe, just a thought that is how I would wright it anyway, so you can have two titles at once with Old Man Logan in them, both with slightly different versions, both with great story potential as you can have him recovering from almost doing the exact same thing as before, and having him recovering from doing the same thing whilst thinking if this is going to happen he may as well be brutal and unalive every villain he can, because he has k worded all his allies twice.
well, the problem with that is that, since old man logan is there, the heroes know that it might happen, which defeats the whole point of the catching everyone off-guard.
Almost everyone knows about it; Old Man Logan didn't just tell him, he told other people too. They could easily take steps to stop that from happening.
Yes but no one knows Steve is Hydra, it doesn't have to happen soon as Steve is an excellent tactician and will know that the best time to in act this plan is when no one expects it to happen which will be the 1 year or 5 year anniversary of when it happened in the original Old Man Logan universe, or when he creates another event that no one will know he is behind, as they will be focused on that event.
Well keep in mind that he's also mind linked to Jean Grey. But of Steve Rogers has been able to operate all this time without anyone knowing he's a hydra agent, it's entirely possible for him to kill the red skull and initiate the Old Man Logan universe. It's also possible that the Civil War 2 scene of Miles killing Rogers was the start of it all.
But then again time moves differently in the Marvel universe, so unless they age the hero's/ whole universe with our universes time it will be difficult to make it plausible for the ones who know about it to be caught off guard without it becoming irrelevant in our universes timeline. Not impossible just difficult.
finally the villains do something smart for once. they always explain their secret plans and some fight the avengers when they have no chance of winning
That wasn't Matt Murdock!Daredevil that was killed in the gladiator fights. it was another guy dressed up like him. he was one of spiderwoman's (hawkeye's daughters) friends.
The gladiator fight ghost rider was some other guy taking up the mantle, that was one of the whole points of that chapter, new punisher, new daredevil killed by new Kingpin.
Holy shit...and Red Skull has Professor X's telepathy...he could coordinate all the super villains...with Steve Rogers running it...then he'd have his shield and suit after he's killed...OH MY GOD THIS IS AWESOME
I think in the old man logan story the daredevil that dies is maybe a descendant of or someone that took up the daredevil mantle, if it was Matt he would have been an old man. : )
I never bought that Mysterio could trick Wolverine into going full beserker mode. His illusions play on special effects trickery that's designed to fool normal human senses. But, as Spiderman's Spidey Sense showed, if you have extrasensory perception you can sniff out his tricks. Wolverine has advanced smell and hearing, is an expert level tracker. He'd know how Sabertooth and all of those villains sound and smell up close. Had Millar chosen Mastermind to do the deed, it would've been more convincing as his illusions target straight to the mind.
Remember, you have to combine all the villains...they were working together, pooling their resources. Mysterio couldn't do it alone, neither could Mastermind, even Mr. Sinister might have some trouble. But together? The heroes had no chance.
I guess what I think is interesting that many are aware of Old Man Logan and what happened in that universe and no one has come up for a plan to deal with this contingency.
If Wolverine gave Hydra-Cap and the rest of the villains this idea, it would be a hell of a story arc for both Logan and Cap. Massive event played across the current Marvel landscape, I'm in.
Did you mention Alpha Flight?? PLEASE do a video on Alpha Flight Rob Vindicator, he had the ILLEST uniform! that giant maple leaf integrated into his uniform is off the chain!!
@@Tyworld_2008 I know but no one’s hardly EVER dead in comics (except Uncle Ben) Alpha Flight needs their just due. They can do more than die...........if the writer is on point.
I have a two part question concerning one character: Daken. 1st: How does he have a tattoo? Wouldn't his healing factor make that impossible? 2: How does it keep growing back? It isn't a part of him biologically so his healing factor should just grow back fresh skin
Something i found really interesting is apparently there was a Miles Morales in this Old Man Logan's universe alongside Peter Parker. Maybe the super villians coming together could still happen in the main universe, just at a different time
You have to do a video now with Old Man Hawkeye and Old Man Quill(Star Lord) , it starts to reveal more of the OML sotry and what happened to other heroes as well
couldn't pym have just use his hands to completely shrug off the mole people or just rolled like a maniac to kill everything on him,or he is way weaker then i think he is?
That doesnt mean they can't eat him. There were thousands of them and all biting through his skin. Not to mention they burrowed from underneath him. He was half trapped in the ground.
You're actually wrong. The Daredevil and Punisher in those games weren't the originals, they were some friends of Hawkeye's granddaughter that ended up taking up those monikers.
Was it Hawkeye's daughter or granddaughter? I thought it was his daughter. Either way you are correct, that was not the original DD and Punisher, they were with her. The original DD would've been very old at that point, like Hawkeye was.
Karnak Manger-Azur. its Spidermans grandaughter
Spider-B*&^h? She was Spiderman's Granddaughter and Hawkeye's Daughter
Jay Coop yea
I don't think he is wrong, in my opinion, and I could be wrong so take this with a grain of salt. If Daredevil and the Punisher die this early into the doomsday event of the supervillans killing of heros that there would be little to no memory of them that far into the future. Just how it seems to me.
Magneto a survivor of the concentrated camps would never Ally himself with Nazi's. that's pure blasphemy.
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Hydra are fascists not nazis
@@orale_ nazis were facist bro
I wish they explained what happened with Loki and that battle. Even old Hawkeye said it was a hell of a battle.
Just read Old Man Hawkeye they show what happened in that battle
You talking about when kang dumped reed Richards and sue storm in the time stream
@@Tyworld_2008 I know they covered that in old man quill. I'm not sure about the Giant Loki
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp did you know black butcher had black panther necklace
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp I know the Baxter building fell on Loki but I wish they showed how
Was sent bad chills seeing how the heroes fell in OLM. All I think after watching this video is "Fuck Magneto, Fuck HYDRA, Fuck Red Skull, Mysterio all those bastards"
I know it's just a comic book at the end of the day but at the same time it goes to show how powerful the OLM story is to the reader.
Younger Hamii yeah.. fucking daredevil just turning into a splat.
A movie showing the fights would be just amazing. If Marvel had the movie rights.
They can still do a animated movie. Which would be more likely since Disney isn't doing R-rated movies.
likenem I want to see how Loki got a building dropped on him.
+Allie Fettig
Wait, what?
I'd imagine Logan the new movie might bring some content from this
Boi do I got news for you
Who else loves old man Logan stories
Kevin old man Logan will probably be known as the best wolverine in marvel history. Don't get me wrong I loved wolverine before old man Logan but they added so much more to the character with that story compared to what they had done before also I don't mined x23 as the new "wolverine " but in my mined she doesn't exactly fill the void
Not even close to being the best, but I appreciate your enthusiasm of the character. Looks like Marvel's done it again!
Kevin only the original
Comics Explained killing it lately or is it just me?
Been putting in work all month
He's been kicking ass lately, I love how he has his nerdgasms all the time, and all the classics are great.
Yea i absolutely love his laugh!
Really wish they’d make an entire comic run on how the villains took over
C'mon, Rob. Any relationship Logan's a part of is creepy; he's been around since before the US Civil War!
You make great content and upload an absolute shit ton. Thanks for many hours of top notch entertainment Rob.
Rob I stopped reading comics back in the early '90's but I've been checking out you site for maybe 2 or more years and you are doing an excellent job. You're work and research on these stories are FIRE!!! It's hard for me to catch up on all of the many back issues of various comics I've missed, but you have kept me well informed on everything and I always look forward to what you have coming up next to touch on. Peace and much respect!!!! If you can, I am interested in you covering more of the better one-shot What If... scenerios. Only the better ones though.
I'm not 100% sure Rob, but the Daredevil that was killed in that pit in Old man Logan was just some guy wearing the gear of Daredevil at that point, I think (again not 100% sure) Logan and Hawkeye were the only Hero's left in the world....well O.G. Hero's I should say
Don’t forget about Hulk and she hulk they og heroes too but they just went crazy from radiation
Actually Steve Rogers was revealed to have been implanted with false memories by Red Skull to make him think he was a Hydra agent all along.
What i always found interesting with the OML universe is that the villains pretty much pulled a 'Wanted' move here sans reality reboot (Wiki 'Wanted' to get that reference) and Jeff went into a little more detail on what happened.
[As for that continuity error, it can be fixed if: a)Enchantress actually teleported DD and Logan thought he died b)DD did die and that was someone else in his costume in the OML book c) Logan's admits that his memories are a little shaky due to trauma and age and doesn't know if DD survived or not]
Loving these vids. :)
Pretty sure the Daredevil as you mentioned at 6:04 was someone else trying to re-take up his mantel (in a semi-similar manner that Spider-girl was trying to do). The Daredevil in the original Old Man Logan series has younger hair and he doesn't actually look blind.
i used to watch comicstorians videos, but i've had to switch to watching yours exclusively. The level of enthusiasm you have for comics is unmatched :D Keep doing what you do Rob, doing a great job.
I like how Lemire has included Moon Knight in his other books in some way or form, even if just too die lmao.
4:44
Well that's a lame way for Spider-Man to go out.
I dont think a pumpkin bomb would kill him
@@idontknowwhattoputformyuse1104 facts. We need more context cause spiderman can take a really bad beating. If spiderman isnt known for his strength he is known for his stats in defense.
What I find interesting is that in the original Mark Millar series, it showed Bucky Barnes as captain America dying before the red skull. The book never actually tells us what happens to Steve Rogers. What if hydra Steve rogers and the red skull orchestrated the overthrow of the superheroes, but Logan never knew about Steve Rogers role?
Hydra captain America still exist in the 616 timeline and he knows that Logan comes from an alternative universe where superheroes were overtaken by hydra. If you take the visions that Ulysses had in Civil War II, Logan's apocalyptic future may still happen if Steve Roger has his way.
Logan may be doomed to relive his future.
Davidson Anestal Interesting
Davidson Anestal Wait it was bucky in the original OML? I never knew that.
Mujtaba Ellari it is. If you look back, you will see that Captain America uniform is the same uniform Bucky Barnes adopted after captain America died. That could take costume was used exclusively by Bucky Barnes. I really wondered why Mark Miller chose to do that. Maybe that was his way of telling us that Steve Rogers is still alive
I thought Mysterio tricking Wolverine was kind of weak. And having Wolverine defeating all the X-men.
Bret .Maverick especially with his enhanced sense of smell
pelvicthrust119 Mysterios gases trick all senses
hah i agree. i would think wolvies smell would be too good to trick. and some of the xmen could have stopped him. but meh gatta tell a story i guess
Cap being a hidra agent makes me think that he will inform red skull of Logan's story and therefore start the war on this universe too xD
It's amazing that with old man logan spider-man villains can pose a serious threat. Kraven killed Punisher and Mysterio made logan kill the x men. If you told me this and these stories didnt exist I would call you crazy. And other C-list villains. The mole man helping kill hank pym. What!
Where can I find these stories? Where the villains took over?
It was friends of Ashley Barton who took up the mantles of daredevil and punisher. If you look closely at the old man Logan daredevil, he has brown hair. in every comic portrayal of daredevil, Matt Murdock is a redhead.
Just something I think would be cool as a weekly/monthly video. It would be really interesting to see a top 5 toughest battles of a particular character. Like Wolverine's top 5 toughest fights, whether 1 on 1 or a group and then next month do a top 5 toughest fights of Batman, etc. You could give a little backstory as to why the fight is happening and why it was such a challenging fight for whatever character you chose that month. Just an idea, love your videos. Big fan!
I was always wishing for a prequel to old man Logan showing how the heroes were defeated. This kind of satisfied that, but I still hope against hope that it will be it's on one shot. Wow dropping an aircraft carrier on the New York skyline is a hell of a way to set it off. If the the super villains worked together in any universe could this happen? Would the DC heroes fall as well?
batman already took the dc heroes down then brang them back lol
I love ur work bro I have one sided friendship with you honestly while I'm on duty performing my "heroic " civil duties you're with me. You actually give me someone to talk to which in turn always me to come back a lot faster from officer mode. Thanks bro you are awesome and I hope you get everything you want and need for your life
btw, that wasn't cap. that was spidey getting blown up by the bomb up there.
i also wonder how they killed deadpool...
I thought that Daredevil died by the original supervillain attack because in one of the alternate covers for the original Old Man Logan series you can see Daredevil's corpse in this giant hole filled with superhero corpses, and because Daredevil's costume is in Red Skull's trophy room. I thought that the African American Kingpin had just gotten his hands on one of Daredevil's costumes and forced those who betrayed the Kingpin to wear the Daredevil suit in a gladiatorial match against a dinosaur.
Batfreeze Rob must've made a mistake about Daredevil being alive in the present time of the original Old Man Logan. Im pretty sure you're correct that it was some dude wearing the suit
Fuk man,every superheroe died so easily,bullbull
I wanna see Hydra Cap replace Red Skull and end up leading an attack on the superhero community as an event. And maybe Old Man Logan could end up killing Hydra Cap.
Geek Mangacomic looks like you get your wish
Lol Marvel staff read this reply and gave us secret empire , you love to see it 😂😂😂😂
so no one thought to call the silver surfer?
how do you contact the surfer?
Magic. It exists in this universe.
shadygrady3000 Reed has a beacon to call Silver Surfer and Galactus
Divided
I find it hard that anyone wouldn't try and call their toughest alley to come and fight for them
TreeckotheRebel
Generally rough alleyways are something to stay away from not go running to when you have an issue. You'll probably get robed too.
Rob you mentioned bringing Magneto bringing New York down.. but he threw an aircraft carrier at it!
The Daredevil and Punisher from Old Man Logan weren't Matt Murdock and Frank Castle, instead they were some of Spider Woman's (Hawkeye's Daughter) resistance movement against the Kingpin.
Hey Rob if you read this just want to let you know you're doing great work you bring enthusiasm and intrigue to these videos keep up the great work!
I honestly love Logan and Jean's relationship
OML is a Villain-Sue-verse. Everyone who normally can't stand each other works together perfectly. Everyone who normally might rat it out keeps silent.
Sorry, my opinion.
Yeah, i was actually expecting an explanation of why so many dudes who hate each other or doesn't even intereact with each other could managed to work togheter. Still, everything looks awesome!
Itachi17509 The hate to goody-good guys surpase everything. And i mean EVERYTHING
It looks great. But why didn't the canon villains ever do this? My alt-take : Have the world we saw the result of 'final battles' between heroes and villains, with the survivors creating fiefdoms after. 'The Bads just surged fwd one day' is to my mind a weak premise in a world of egos, grudges, and deeply felt vendettas.
In a multiverse theory, every possibility that could ever happen DID happen, in some alternate universe. So there was ONE universe out there where all the villains were able to work together and take over the world.
Ex Queue isn't there also infinite copies of that universe? there are infinite universes different from earth 616 and infinite copies of earth 616
Rob I have to say your videos are seriously amazing. Just want to point it out. Loving your discussions. Keep it up and thanks for doing this.
Wow I really love the Old Man Logan ANAD and Original Storyline, I just want more satisfaction with what happened to more of the superheroes. Honestly it could be its own short story.
Love your enthusiasm Rob. It really is great, with all the chances made to ANAD Marvel it's not as easy to get excited about some of these stories. I was really turned off by Steve Rogers being a Hydra agent at first but with this new level of suspense it's pretty great.
Rob is seriously an ageist, this is the 2nd reference he finds sickening of old ppl finding love inb recent weeks
That was like the first comic book Daredevil was alive in the first issue therefore he never got disintegrated you can't go back and change that
i wanted to see how spider man , fantastic four, and black panther died.
The Daredevil in the gladiatorial arena was just another guy with a Daredevil costume.
The Punisher died when the super villains took over. In the original "Old Man Logan" it was a regular guy, who took up his mantel alongside a new Daredevil (who wasn't blind) and the new (female) Spiderman and daughter of the still living original Hawkeye.
GhostofNr9 You mean spider-bitch?
-_- really?
I'm pretty sure the Daredevil death is fine and that the Daredevil you see in King Pin's pit is just a new guy wearing the costume, like Spider-man grand daughter.
Ah dude, I am loving this content! These stories are just amazing.
there should be a mini series where the events that led up to Old Man Logan (as seen here) begins to happen. Maybe Ulysses returns and has a vision and the villians do team up. so its a matter of not just stopping them but preventing Logan's universe from coming
The witching hour is not midnight, it's 3AM.
This would not have happened if they had the Batman.
Where is Franklin Richards in The Old Man universe??🤣🤣
Ok so 3 things:
1. This story was good, fleshing out the old man Logan story world is a great idea. I would like to see how some of the heroes became villains, specifically Hulk.
2. Sooooo HAPPY how they have taken a lot of the rage people had over Caps reveal being part of Hydra and made it into one of the best stories they are churning out right now, I got why people were upset but hope no ones bitching about it anymore.
3. LOGAN AND JEAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN CREEPY/OK depending on how you felt from the start. You have to remember, when they were hinting in the old comics about the connection they had, which ultimately never truly materialised (bar alternate worlds), he would have been close to 100 or more years old. Shes been fighting since she was like 15, its was odd from the start, was always a though of mine when I was reading x-men as a teen (that and Dirty Dancing) and my conclusion.....meh (not meh with dirty dancing though), its too late to complain now, so I just hoped they would get together and get that madness out the way.
Jubilee Lost her powers duting M-Day and She was still a Vampire as far as know.
Old man Logan really is a great new take on the character. A nice solid character building comic.
Thai doesn't add up. In old man Logan, it said the absorbing man and magneto killed Thor in Los Vegas. That's why magneto took control of Vegas now calling it hammer falls. Where was Thor while New York was being destroyed?
New York was simply the first strike, as it was the home base for the majority of Super Heros. The carving up of the country was done later.
TheCelticTiger32 I thought hulk broke his neck
Hammerfall lol, elder scrolls
+colprom If that is true, why wasn't Thor present in New York for the first strike? Who else but magneto, could hold Thor at bay? The entire point of the villain attack was to all attack at once and overwhelm the heroes, there wouldn't be a second strike. This version has way too many inconsistencies anyways, such as with daredevil and punisher also, I personally wouldn't consider it cannon.
TheCelticTiger32 don't act like just because you misunderstood something, you can use it as a valid argument as to why the store is flawed. Daredevil and punisher died. The two guys that got eaten by the dinosaurs were just two guys that were inspired by daredevil and punisher (like Spider bitch, and even Miles morales, even tho he doesnt have anything to do with this universe)
The Daredevil and Punisher from Old Man Logan were impostors.
Steve Rogers should inform Hydra of what happened in the Old Man Logan universe, and take red skulls place in the new Old Man Logan universe, also making everything happen close to how it did in the original Old Man Logan universe but with critical differences like Steve getting found out in the process and Old Man Logan dying/ being stopped in the process also, making a new what if scenario where it will be what if Steve's plan Had have worked, Making a new ongoing series about the New Old Man Logan universe, just a thought that is how I would wright it anyway, so you can have two titles at once with Old Man Logan in them, both with slightly different versions, both with great story potential as you can have him recovering from almost doing the exact same thing as before, and having him recovering from doing the same thing whilst thinking if this is going to happen he may as well be brutal and unalive every villain he can, because he has k worded all his allies twice.
well, the problem with that is that, since old man logan is there, the heroes know that it might happen, which defeats the whole point of the catching everyone off-guard.
Almost everyone knows about it; Old Man Logan didn't just tell him, he told other people too. They could easily take steps to stop that from happening.
Yes but no one knows Steve is Hydra, it doesn't have to happen soon as Steve is an excellent tactician and will know that the best time to in act this plan is when no one expects it to happen which will be the 1 year or 5 year anniversary of when it happened in the original Old Man Logan universe, or when he creates another event that no one will know he is behind, as they will be focused on that event.
Well keep in mind that he's also mind linked to Jean Grey. But of Steve Rogers has been able to operate all this time without anyone knowing he's a hydra agent, it's entirely possible for him to kill the red skull and initiate the Old Man Logan universe. It's also possible that the Civil War 2 scene of Miles killing Rogers was the start of it all.
But then again time moves differently in the Marvel universe, so unless they age the hero's/ whole universe with our universes time it will be difficult to make it plausible for the ones who know about it to be caught off guard without it becoming irrelevant in our universes timeline. Not impossible just difficult.
Even when he gets excited and pumped up his voice stays as smooth as velvet
finally the villains do something smart for once. they always explain their secret plans and some fight the avengers when they have no chance of winning
That wasn't Matt Murdock!Daredevil that was killed in the gladiator fights. it was another guy dressed up like him. he was one of spiderwoman's (hawkeye's daughters) friends.
the hero's in Logan's universe died but there where others to take up the mantels of those hero's like Spider-Man dare devil and punisher
The gladiator fight ghost rider was some other guy taking up the mantle, that was one of the whole points of that chapter, new punisher, new daredevil killed by new Kingpin.
Holy shit...and Red Skull has Professor X's telepathy...he could coordinate all the super villains...with Steve Rogers running it...then he'd have his shield and suit after he's killed...OH MY GOD THIS IS AWESOME
Read the original Old Man Logan again. The Cap Red Skull kills isn't Steve Rogers, it's Bucky Barnes
I think in the old man logan story the daredevil that dies is maybe a descendant of or someone that took up the daredevil mantle, if it was Matt he would have been an old man. : )
I never bought that Mysterio could trick Wolverine into going full beserker mode. His illusions play on special effects trickery that's designed to fool normal human senses. But, as Spiderman's Spidey Sense showed, if you have extrasensory perception you can sniff out his tricks. Wolverine has advanced smell and hearing, is an expert level tracker. He'd know how Sabertooth and all of those villains sound and smell up close. Had Millar chosen Mastermind to do the deed, it would've been more convincing as his illusions target straight to the mind.
Remember, you have to combine all the villains...they were working together, pooling their resources. Mysterio couldn't do it alone, neither could Mastermind, even Mr. Sinister might have some trouble. But together? The heroes had no chance.
@@dustinjones7458 Mysterio was the only one who tricked Wolverine into killing the entire X-Men according to the comic...
Daredevil probably died that guy on the original series was wearing the suit to battle on the new Kingpin s arena dinosaurs.
Or Maybe Daredevil survided.
We see him go through that but not actually see him *die* in a comfirmed death
He could've survived
The guy on the original Old Man logan wearin DD suit isnt him . Maybe he survived , but Daredevil wasn t a part of the Original Old Man Logan Story.
Alejandro Callejas Oh yes. Totally survived magical disintegration
I guess what I think is interesting that many are aware of Old Man Logan and what happened in that universe and no one has come up for a plan to deal with this contingency.
They should of put more of how the super heros died and how some villains died like what happened to loki and etc.
Rob, you know I love stories with people from the FEWTCHA!!!!
Old man Logan has been gold since his introduction
Honestly way cooler stories than the og wolverine
Rob, when are you projected to hit 1M on this channel? Cheers.
Old Man Logan. The hidden gem in the current Marvel. Also, OML never remembered the events of Battleworld.
If Wolverine gave Hydra-Cap and the rest of the villains this idea, it would be a hell of a story arc for both Logan and Cap. Massive event played across the current Marvel landscape, I'm in.
"Although no one cares about Kazar." Rob is low key Savage for that comment.
You're right... Old Man Logan is probably the best comic I've read to date.. Apart from the World War Hulk collection and.
I'm loving all the Old Man Logan stuff
Did you mention Alpha Flight?? PLEASE do a video on Alpha Flight Rob Vindicator, he had the ILLEST uniform! that giant maple leaf integrated into his uniform is off the chain!!
Alpha flight was killed in Ottawa during this battle if you didn’t know
@@Tyworld_2008 I know but no one’s hardly EVER dead in comics (except Uncle Ben) Alpha Flight needs their just due. They can do more than die...........if the writer is on point.
@@omegahtv6779 did you know black butcher had black panther necklace
@@Tyworld_2008 no. I didn’t.
@@omegahtv6779 did you know red skull had his mask
Sorrentino's art is so goddamned good in this series. Worship worthy.
This would have all been avoided if Sentry was there. 😂
He got killed too his belt is in red skull trophy room
She's still a vampire, I read about it in the new hellcat series
that daredevil that died in the gladatior pit in the first series wasent matt murdock, that was one of ashleys friends who took on the mantle.
Rob's laugh is precious
I have a two part question concerning one character: Daken. 1st: How does he have a tattoo? Wouldn't his healing factor make that impossible? 2: How does it keep growing back? It isn't a part of him biologically so his healing factor should just grow back fresh skin
Rob they are not the original daredevil and punisher. They are people that take on the mantle. Otherwise they would be so old.
Love your vids man
Rob's hype is contagious.
U are doing a fantastic job my friend..... You have gotta be my favorite person on TH-cam right now your content is on a whole different level
Love your enthusiasm about these stories. Makes the videos that much better!
Something i found really interesting is apparently there was a Miles Morales in this Old Man Logan's universe alongside Peter Parker. Maybe the super villians coming together could still happen in the main universe, just at a different time
I just love when he has a lot of fun while reading this stories :D
Please do more what if or something Spider-man 2099 related
I have to say this story makes the villains more monstrous. It's kinda like a deconstruction.
Wait, Magneto brought a shield helicarrier down on the NYC skyline?
How are you so endearing??? :) I don't even read comics and I love these videos!
Daredevil at the gladiatorial games was just some dude in a daredevil costume, not Matt Murdoch.
You have to do a video now with Old Man Hawkeye and Old Man Quill(Star Lord) , it starts to reveal more of the OML sotry and what happened to other heroes as well
Pym just casually wears a giant NON BULLETPROOF SUIT
Am i the only one who hates the fact they made cap a hydra agent?
ThatGuyYouveKnown no you’re not
if god was writing this he'd let us see Logan take on Rogers for being a hydra agent.
couldn't pym have just use his hands to completely shrug off the mole people or just rolled like a maniac to kill everything on him,or he is way weaker then i think he is?
That doesnt mean they can't eat him. There were thousands of them and all biting through his skin. Not to mention they burrowed from underneath him. He was half trapped in the ground.
@@themaster804 shrink really small
Villains have attacked by nightfall before, that's the stupidest theory ever.