BAHF Boeing C-97 Training Flights
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- November 30, 2018, Hagerstown Regional Airport. Berlin Airlift Historical Foundation's C-97 and crew conducted two training flights today. Engine starts, taxi, takeoff and landing. Learn more at:
www.spiritoffreedom.org
My dad a C-124 pilot flew with Pat Tyson who was flying a C-97 and lost #3 and #4 engines 1/2 way from Hawaii to California. The #4 prop came off and took out #3 and tore up the fuselage. They tossed all the cargo out of the plane and it flew a few feet off the ocean all the way to California. Both pilots were carried off the plane because their left legs were standing on the rudder peddle for hours.
Pat Tyson was a hero and on the cover of Life Magazine. There were several people on the plane dependents getting transferred.
Tyson later died in a Lear jet accident a few years later, icing near Washington DC.
My father was a flight engineer that flew the original C-97 having the same tail number during the Berlin Air Lift. His photos and documents I believe are flying with this aircraft throughout its tour.
It is cited in Wikip by tail number too
I was lucky to be working at Floyd Bennett field when they were restoring this plane. I literally seen these engines and parts of plane in pieces as they worked on it. I cannot believe she is flying today .......amazing
I flew in and worked on C-97s for 4 years in the calif. Air guard in the early sixties. We flew from Van Nuys to Hawaii to Japan and then onto Viet Nam on a regular basis. 97s were in constant need of maintenance. Our 97s were scrapped years ago. C-130s took over. The base was closed as the Viet Nam war came to an end.
Thank you so much for posting!! Those big radial engines are beautiful to watch and to listen
She is a big beautiful metal bird. Love the sound of the engines.
Oh man....I miss that beautiful sound of those radial prop engines flying high overhead on a bright summer or a crispy cold winter day in NW Pennsylvania...late 50s-early 70s...one of the first jets I recall seeing was the French Caravelle
What a beast of an aeroplane, I was very lucky to look around her in the HARS hanger at Floyd Bennett field about 10 years ago 👏
I am greatfull&honerd to have been part of the flightcrew that was at Gray bul
I was at Greybull Wyoming with the maintenance crew with the foundation when the big beautiful Boeing was painted in her new livery! Proud&honerd to be part of this foundation from the early days of fruitation! Jr, retired a&p mechanic. Usaf, afres,& NJ Ang. 177th fig. Atlantic City. Nj. USA! 1958\1988. Nice putt together production on the history of the big props!!
Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful!
I'm about to attend a memorial service for a local resident who was a co-pilot in the Fifties for the KC-97 at Dow in Maine. They were monsters to maintain let alone try and refuel B-47s AND 52s. By the late Sixties only the Guard flew them either as tankers supporting fighter deployments or for cargo or passenger missions overseas. By that time all of the young mechanics coming out of Chanute, IL were being trained on jets only and had little idea how to proceed on recips. But these videos which he saw and commented on were wonderful for his sons and grandsons to get an idea of what a challenge they were.
In 1968 I flew in the USAF C 97 twice , sat on a stool right behind the plot.
Me and another jet mechanic was invited to sit up front after takeoff.
As a young kid I still remember the particular smell of the smoke as the engines fired up. The Stratocruiser had problematic engines, just like the older B-29's. To save the Boeing company, the Air Force bought all of the Stratocruisers and B-50's (B-29's with bigger engines) to convert them to KB-50's and KC-97's. Both plans weren't quite fast enough for inflight refueling of the new jets. Inflight refueling took place with the KC-97's in a very slight dive to raise the airspeed for whatever the faster jet was to be refueled.
Awesome video thank's 👍 from México 👍
Even in those days how could they see this plane other than ugly , but I’m glad it’s around . Thanks !,
The smoke honestly I've seen ww2 planes with less smoke on start ups
Absolutely stunning and so great to see (and hear!) a legend like this take to the sky again! I'm not too much into the C-97 variant but rather a 377 Stratocruiser buff but then again it's pretty much the same thing... So when watching these videos I just imagine it to be a Northwest Stratocruiser and then I'm happy just to have the opportunity to watch this brute drone into the sky! Amazing stuff and great work all of you guys at BAHF! Thanks for sharing this video! Like having a time machine... :-)
Same plane, but the military version had a separate instrument pedestal for each pilot instead of one big instrument panel. Also, the Stratocruiser didn't have the radar done under the nose. The C-97 was bare bones inside. The cross beam at the radio operator's station wasn't padded. If you were unaware of that beam the first time in the plane, and you weren't looking up, that beam would connect with your forehead. Ask me how I know?
My dad flew the Stratocruisers for Northwest. He ferried the last NWA one (#706) to its retirement in 1960.
Thats when airplane were airplanes ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I hate to sound like an old fogy, but the guys flying these behemoths are the last GREAT pilots on earth today. The youngsters (and even the old-timers) flying the new stuff like an A380 would be overwhelmed trying to operate a 4 engine prop plane. Mixture control, prop-pitch control as well as throttle management, and myriad other systems NOT computer monitored or controlled would baffle any of today's heavy jet pilots -- whose cockpit expertise with propulsion is basically ON or OFF. Not that they aren't excellent at what they do -- they are! They just don't have to do nearly as much --not to mention navigation in rotten weather before GPS. Guys like Sullenberger (the "miracle" on the Hudson), who could easily dead-stick a jetliner to a safe landing, are all long retired by now, and pilots today do not have that skill (usually) since it is not required training anymore.
I can hear it now = "what the hell is BMEP?"
@Brummiewellington They sure do! And they're also great pilots.
And THAT's why they had Flight Engineers!
Thank you for sharing
Same Engines are in the B 29 Superfortress. Very Good Engines
Not true. Look it up.
The B29 had Wright Cyclone R3350 double row radial engine(s). The updated version of B29 (B50) had the Pratt & Whitney R-4360 four row radial engine(s) like the C97.
Nice plane! 👌🛫💙
Sure wish when shooting props someone would figure out how to turn off the high-speed shutter on these cameras - so maybe it could look like real life.
Fun fact:this plane was the second phase of the super guppy turning into a guppy!
Those recips, smoking and shaking...imagine a trans Atlantic flight on that bird. Good post.
Imagine these aircraft handling today's traffic at a major airport with all that smoke. Was any oil left by the time it reached the end of the runway?
Ohh soo sweet and its the original one too.
Those engines seem to burn more oil than avgas
The choke sticks.
Never pass a SMOG Check in Khaliphonia.
Yes, when the linesman pulls up at the end of the day - "fill 'er up with oil and top off the fuel tanks".
Think those engines are a bit tired
John Utting I agree; like they are ready for a good overhaul.
My goodness what a smoke trail!!!!
AWESOME video and thanks for sharing.
Sounds great on takeoff
Imagine starting any of those engines during pushback
LOL!!! That'd be one helluva learning curve for the rampers!
WOW!What a historic airplane...........
I didn’t know that they made 2-stroke airplane engines.
QUE LENTITUD PARA PONER EN MARCHA ESTOS MOTORES , MEDIA TONELADA DE COMBUSTIBLE ANTE DE DESPEGAR
It took both hands, both eyes, and both cheeks to start an R 2800, especially hot. Today I can start a
GE 90 with a cup of coffee in one hand... from the first class galley.
Craig Williams
I have about 3000 hours operating R2800 engines. Today I fly a triple. I miss everything about the old birds ( I flew CV2,3,440s and a DC6B ) except the pay.
112 cylinders😊
Any more smoke and the airfield will be in low vis procedures. I thought it would’ve cleared after a few circuits and it had ‘warmed up’
Great video! Wow are those engines smoky.
#4 looks to be needing serious help.
awesome i would love to be a part of it
www.spiritoffreedom.org Check it out.
@@kevinkearney1277 I'm from wi at dodgeville with a static c-97 deteriorate ing but what a beautiful aircraft
Edward Mayo we liberated the rear ballast tanks from the Dodgeville Bird this past summer. She’s in rough shape.
Nice looker,this old smoker.Engines are ready for a rebuild😎👍!
На старых самолётах летают только настоящие пилоты!Большое спасибо за видео.
Wish videos looked this had some narrative 👍👍
They need help in getting funds for a new engine. Until a new engine is purchased she will remain in Reading PA. Please donate and get the angel back in the air!
Didn't make it to Reading without an eng. failure?
I’m guessing it was engine #3?
Anderson Airmotive is the only shop that has overhauled R-4360s recently. It’d be so great to see them go through the Angel’s engines, but that would cost a (not small) fortune.
Sound like a Lancaster when the main wheels hit the runway on Landing .
It’s definitely time for some new rings and seals. I bet that smoke and avgas smells so good.
ÓTIMO AVIÃO MOTOR RADIAL D 4 MIL CAVALOS, BRASIL OK.
It’s looks like they are reversible pitch props. Am I wrong?
Wonder how much money it takes to keep this thing airworthy...
A tremendous amount. You can contribute by going to www.spiritoffreedom.org and sending some for the cause.
I use to belong to the "Save-A-Connie" group at Kansas City, MO downtown airport that use to fly a Lockheed "Super H" Constellation at airshows across the country. I was told back in the 1990's that it cost around $1000.00 an hour in just fuel and oil alone to keep that "Connie" with its four Wright 3350 engines flying.
We used to know a lot of SAC guys back in the day... Foe, Larry, Mr. Hargis.. Great bunch of guys. Its a shame the Connie hasn't flown in a while...
Kevin Kearney m
Interessante o vídeo! Parabéns!
If you were checked out on the B-29, would this plane be easy to transition into?
Do the engines normally smoke that much?
Looks great sounds great but does anyone know how much it costs to get enough aviation grade gasoline to fly it?
If you have to ask, you can't afford it! LOL
old and still flying today what an airplane this is.
Isńt it burning too much oil?
Kathleen Shaw thank you for the kind answer; everyday you can learn something new. Have a great day.
There's no doubt this aircraft needs new engines, blowing a lots of smoke!
Fresh eng's. pretty much do this, too. Nature of the beast.
*insert rolleyes emoji*
Allison 501D's?
One of the nicest looking butt ugly airplanes from that era. They're like an old panhead, they don't run right if they don't burn oil
Is this airplane still operable as of 08-21?
No, we had a failed #2 engine. We just got some spares so back in the air this summer...
Fill 'er up with oil, and check the gas, will ya?
Will this be in Oshkosh? I would love to see it fly!
#3 sure appears tired.
Is name of this plane smoking Joe?
Any old timers explain the 3,4,2 and 1 engine start sequence??
There is probably some old man living somewhere with new old stock engines that would fit a bird like this just in absolute denial that he will need them for some project someday that he will never get around to in his lifetime. Kinda wish this mythological person would contact BAHF and help them get this bird out of PA and back flying again!
Probably end up seeing the guy on an "American Pickers" episode. Frank will be trying to get them in a bundle deal!😄
Greta Airways
jesus man, second time you didn't show the landing !!! walk up to that friggin fence and get some exercise
Ooops the building blocked the view of the landing. The mystery is does the C-97/KC-97 land on its nose gear? I've read that if the pilot flairs just before touch down the wing will stall and the plane will drop to the ground.
Its not a mystery. That's exactly what he does. You essentially have to fly it on to the runway.
The pilot's manual states that the nose wheel should be 6 INCHES above the ground when the mains touch. This is due in part to the center of gravity being forward when it's empty( which it always is when landing).
hate what video does to propellers!
Era un avión bastante feo...
Engines way to rich!
Not the greatest transport ever built, that's for sure. Tough bird to land main gear first.
😀👍👍👍
I guess its old enough to smoke.....
Overhaul those engines guys, seriously. Startup smoke yes but these smoke incessantly. Not good at all. Love this ole bird and do not want to hear of it going down somewhere. The next flight could be it's last. OVERHAUL!
Somewhere is crying alone one Greta Tumberg...
Fala serio . Esse avião é muito feio kkkkkkkkkkk
The figure 8 fuselage is unique. I'm not sure why the plane was designed this way.
Некрасивый..." беременный" самолет...
It’s time to but these plane to sleep permanently!
The pollution from these is no longer acceptable….
相変わらず不細工な機体ですねぇ
コックピットは好きだけど
В этом образе самолёт привлекает внимание к себе, и для своего времени он был не плох!