Hi Bob and Ramon. Max. Thanks for inviting us in. Wow, you touched on so many interesting points, where to start? I'll mention a couple and see how it goes. I've never got into Les Pauls, love the look, adore the sound but when I pick them up and try to play it just doesn't work somehow for me, can't explain why. But I'm always thrilled to see them played in the hands of someone who can, especially over a Strat (Beck excluded). So Ramon, congrats on finding the LP that suits you, and especially great to get the one you like so much back from no return, what a story! That doesn't happen much. Love the amber flame and custom appointments. Personally, I like to see them minus the pick-guard. But that's me. Bob, you're so right about unexpectedly discovering a guitar or amp that speaks to you, especially on random occasions like visits to guitar stores. Years ago I was at a guitar show looking at a whole bunch of amazing PRS guitars, intending to buy. After frustrating the pants off the PRS rep in making a choice I discovered the thing more important was the amp I was going through. So I walked out of the show with a s/h Soldano 2x2 combo. Relics and ageing. These days I'm a straight acoustic player. What always makes me smile when I think of the trouble and expense manufacturers go to ageing a guitar is the conversation I heard with the Everly Brothers, who toured a lot at the height of their popularity. They said that when their guitars looked "beat up" from so much heavy strumming (first using SJ200's) they would simply replace them for stage! Hence the wide double scratch-plates on their later J180's. Finally, a quote from another famous artist. Leonard Cohen. "I always prefer cheap guitars". Looking forward to the next vid guys.
Great video guys, always enjoy your uploads. The late '70s and early '80s higher-end (EG - 700 and above) Greco "Super Real" and "Vintage Collection" models are mighty good. Some of the Vintage Collection models are exceptionally close repros of the early Bursts.
Nobody in this world can sell you like you can sell yourself. Joe Bonamassa for that reason alone earns my respect, but he also seems to be a good human apart from all that. He comes off snarky perhaps at times so maybe that is why some people dot like him but I dont see that as a reason for myself to dislike him.
I got a ‘57 bought from original owner. Bought/ sold many custom lesters before I got my real ‘57. Conversions etc. Very very difficult to replicate those old guitars. My ‘57 has it all. So... save your pennies (quid). As a side note my ‘57 came from the factory with out of phase in middle. So yes that did happen. I can’t figure out why the ‘57 is amazing. Done blind fold tests. Always go back to ‘57. The custom shop guitars are pretty good but you need to play several back to back to find one that sings to you.
SOMETHING HAPPENS WHEN I PLAY ALBATROSS, I GO INTO ANOTHER WORLD......THERE ARE PPL THAT DONT CAE FOR IT, AND I CANT UNDERSTAND.........I THINK ITS A SOUL STIRRING, CHILLING, BEAUTIFUL PEICE OF MUSIC........PETER GREEN, WAS A MAGNIFICENT TALENT! UNDERATED!
Just done a fast and dirty demo to my phone for you, see th-cam.com/video/4XHmgZqUKOU/w-d-xo.html. While there, there’s also a demo through a Trainwreck Express clone that is visiting from a dear serious player friend. Another very nice amp, really twitchy but very responsive. Hope they’re ok for you and dare I say it, that you enjoy them 👍
The only mass produced "replica" i would want is a old pre 1982 Super real 1200. Those things are disgustingly accurate to a old burst. Hondorian Mahogany body and neck, Brazilian fingerboard, accurate wire harness,plastics are all the accurate materials and the stock Dry Z pu's are incredible P.A.F sounding pu's.
Came here tot watch the 58 Les Paul Standard, very much enjoyed the show. I was completely surprised to see your Navigator N-LP ?380, I own a 2002 Navigator and love love the big fat neck! How does it compare to the 1958 LP neck?
I remember Joe Bonamassa’s first album, and us all sitting around listening to this kid who had just learnt to play his dad’s record collection and put it on a covers album. I warmed to that, because that was me/us once, all of us a bit on the spectrum. Then he became his own person, but remained that kid who was primarily a fan of 70s rock-blues, adopted the Armani suit blues platform, AKA 70s Clapton, and made it a career. I don’t personally go for that, but I’d see the show any day, and I love the guy for who he is - honest. I feel almost paternal. I’ll defend him against anyone.
You can make a replica of every part perfectly, but it won't sound like Clapton etc unless they are playing them, some people have just got the magic in their fingers, but keep the vids coming 👍👍
Wow you're one lucky man. What i would do to own a real '59......! Beautiful. I also own one of the Edward's LP which is also a fantastic player. Not quite a Navigator but is great none the less.
Long time fan of the channel.I would rate this vid 10 for male cameraderie but only 1 for content. You only have to listen to Ramon taking the final break inth Albatross song and compare it to Rob just before = just the reverse of what was said earlier. I think allthis vintage adoration guff to be BS at least as regards solid guitars - Anyone got a 58 switch tip for sale?? Oh,and some certified organic aged African snake oil ?? Keep at it Boys !!!
Great comment graham - actually this video was us just having some fun as we had not seen each other for a long time - hopefully the next video will be more useful - but thanks for the feedback we always take it on board!
@@TheGuitarShow Hey Ramon - its all cool ! Sorry I let my prejudices about the vintage market to go on a bit. In fact you both raised a critical point siding with me [ ! ] when you said that the legendary Beano LP would have only been around 5 years old at date of recording. Food for thought indeed - Cheers brother !
What is your friend Fletcher's first name and can his playing be found anywhere on the internet? Also I have read several times that when the Bluesbreakers recorded the Beano album, the recording engineer asked Clapton to turn the volume on his amp down, but Clapton told him he wouldn't, and then went on to play at full volume setting, overwhelming the rest of the band in the one room studio. Then later the engineers were able to balance the mix, with the result being that classic album.
Kirk Fletcher, fab player and top guy. And yes to your story about recording the Beano album. Caused a mutiny amongst the brow-coated studio engineers of the time!
1. Modern nitro lacquer is not the same as used on the '50-'60s guitars, for a lot of good reasons. 2. Nitro lacquer that sat on a piece of wood for decades will feel different to how it felt brand new in '58!
It's difficult to even make your own nitrous lacquer anymore because the nitrocellulose prills can be a precursor for explosives and new governmental control on these means you need a special licence to own them! So you're stuck with buying premixed lacquer. However the work around is to use old cheap ping pong balls instead of prills.
I suppose you've seen Joe Bonamassa's huge guitar and amps dream collection... Nice moment guys. Have you heard about Matteo Mancuso ? incredible player ! and Tom Quayle..
I think there's a point you missed.some guitars just have serious mojo!. You can have 2 of the same model guitars, made by the right person, with the perfect combination of timber (no 2 pieces resonate the same), the pickups could be wound slightly differently or perfectly. I had 20 80's Jackson headstock ESP's. Both fantastic guitars, but one of them had serious mojo!.
Joe's the reason I got back into guitar with new found hope that I might someday play WELL ....and, I believe the knob swap wuzzoff a pix on Freddy King's goldtop album cover... (?)
My God, Albatross is pure magic, Peter Green was a Genius, as Tommy Emmanuel once said about ‘Tears in Heaven’ (there’s a 1minute-jem video on TH-cam) and Clapton, only the Greats can tell SO much with so little. And contents about LP great as usual.
Very interesting, however...Oh how much deeper does the Japanese rabbit hole go. I had read about the Orville guitars a while back. A few years ago an opportunity arose to travel to Japan for a few events so I became excited with anticipation at the prospects of a day off in Japan looking for guitars. That fell through but I was smitten with the idea of owning one of these rare Gibson-licensed guitars. Fast forward to about a year and a half ago when on a Saturday night (and after a few drams of fine single malt) I ran across one of these on Ebay. I now own two of them, a cherry burst from 1998 and the now Goldtop, which is from 1993. It is fair to add that in my experience I have had the opportunity to play many amazing Gibson guitars and after a few upgrades my Orvilles are excellent, favorably comparable performance and recording instruments (In one of my roles I mix stage monitors for The Fab Faux, Little Steven, Etc). I have since refinished one of them as a Goldtop with TV Jones P90s. The Orville by Gibson line were a bit pricier and had nitrocellulose lacquer finishes and Gibson USA pickups.
Try a 100 watt Soldano sometime. Martin Barr bought four and says all four sound right all the time. Better than any Marshall amp he ever played. But they will set you back some $4 plus thousand dollars.
I think if the custom shops used older select dry wood they would be closer The amount of guitars made today doesn't let the wood set for any amount of time No stock piles either that had been sitting somewhere like in the old days
Can I request the next jam you guys have together can you play a few of bobs single pup ES guitars? please it’s rare to see the single pick up ones in action
Thank you Bob and Ramon! You two have greatly spiced up a rather bland lunch for me. I think I prefer the tone of Ramon's pickups over Bob's. I'm guessing it's just the signal path? The almighty PAF's certainly must sound superior, right??? 😬
So much going on. Different amps and stuff in signal chains so not a forensic comparison. Plus Ramon is the way better player with more vocabulary, rhythm, commitment and attack. But his Navigator is also a vv nice guitar in its own right.
Thanks for this - I stitched up Bob in thise video by putting him through my Mystic without the dumbleator which didnt help matters when we put in delay and reverb - my apologies
Have to say listening back that I agree with you, not the best tone I’ve had. Unfamiliar gear and not enough attention to setup. And Ramon always outplays me!
I enjoy your videos both thank you 😊 My R9 feels sticky like you mention but I do like the guitar. The PAF equipped original LP guitars to me sound squeaky and toppy. Which some players may exaggerate with their amp eq? This type of sound quality I describe sometimes seems to be a feature of some of the very inexpensive pick-up variants available today.. Perhaps the original PAF’s were just that way fundamentally down to price as when you consider the sum of the parts; pick-ups were/can be a relatively basic and inexpensive product? Is it the violin type sound characteristic that the PAF’s have when vibrato is applied particularly on the middle and bass strings that maybe sets them apart which maybe seems difficult to replicate? So I wonder if modern pick-ups are over engineered although I appreciate there are many variables. ...I don’t think I have ever heard a vintage PAF equipped electric guitar first hand!
Interesting you tend to agree with me re the ‘stickiness’ - most RI owners find it insulting. And yes to the brightness. Old Les Paul’s and even older Tele’s have a surprising amount in common. But mine isn’t too bright though some I’ve played, especially ‘59{s can be very toppy.
The Gibson might have sounded a bit better if you took the pick out of the strings! Still enjoyed it tho'. I have never found a Strat or tele I could get on with after 50 years! Confirmed top wrapper here.
Yes you’re right, good spot. I often forget, especially if I’m playing in keys that don’t use many open strings like Bb, which I do a lot. The tone on this video is not the best - unfamiliar gear and too little attention to setup. Shows Ramon’s Navigator in a good light, though, and of course he always outplays me cos he’s much better. For something more usual from my side, see : th-cam.com/video/4XHmgZqUKOU/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/o0iJpe8UXr0/w-d-xo.html
The issue with Bonamassa is that there is just a certain something missing, soul I think. I try so hard to like his work. I admire his ‘estate’ but just can’t listen for long. I can see why Bob would like him because he is the same, too obsessed with gear and lacking feeling.
He has some really tasty licks, appreciates great players and loves his guitars. Can't be easy in front of a camera posted on the net. Just a thought. They said of Buchanan, he always played his best stuff when no-one was around.
Compared to most people I know, I don’t obsess about gear though I have a lot. I do obsess about tone though, and the gear is just tools towards that goal. As for feeling, it’s a matter of opinion but you’re probably right. I certainly envy players with more feel.
@@Rockbeareguitars I like tone too but it has turned into a massive OCD industry and I see a lot of it replacing creativity, actually writing and performing. Has anyone asked Clapton about the old gear rather than speculate on the nuances. As for the statement that modern guitar makers can’t recreate the guitars of old, I think that’s a perception and maybe mental health issue to justify obsessive collection of old gear.
Love the show, gents. Am wondering if rubbing your right leg Bob, isn't due to the weight of the guitar resting on it. I used to have Les Pauls and when I sat to play, they made my right leg go numb. I'd have to place them like Ramon does, classical style haha! That or standing up with a wide padded strap. In spite of it, I'm planning on getting another Les Paul someday soon. You two are a bad influence ha!
ESP sounded pretty good The 58 sounded good too but something wasn't right Sorta harsh Must be my ears Ha after hearing Albatross I changed my mind I've a 59 P90 in my 66 SG Jr and yes it does make a difference The 50s P90s are hotter than the mid to late 60s ones for some reason Maybe cause the were hand wound instead of machine wound or the winders all were a bit different on the winds Machine manufacture can all sound the same
You can take off the switch tip to sound like Eric Clapton, but sadly you can no longer buy Woolworths baseball boots to sound like Rory Gallagher..... Shame.
Joe is a white boy who wants to play the blues so bad… and he does. But he’s a very good guitarist in fact. Nothing terribly original at all, not a particularly good singer but a technically very proficient guitarist. His love of the blues means that people who are impressed by his guitar ‘pyrotechnics’ have been introduced to the blues. Nothing against Joe at all, fair play to him, but listen to ‘Albert’s Shuffle’ on the Super Session album by Mike Bloomfield and you’ll see why I don’t rate Joe as a good blues player. Still nothing against Joe.
Great to have you back on the show Bob. I love to hear you two talk guitars.
Thanks Lin!
You cats are too much fun. Great banter and sweet licks. A thigh slapping hoot of a time:)
Thank you 👍
Love Ramon and bob .
Thank you!
Hi Bob and Ramon. Max. Thanks for inviting us in. Wow, you touched on so many interesting points, where to start?
I'll mention a couple and see how it goes.
I've never got into Les Pauls, love the look, adore the sound but when I pick them up and try to play it just doesn't work somehow for me, can't explain why. But I'm always thrilled to see them played in the hands of someone who can, especially over a Strat (Beck excluded).
So Ramon, congrats on finding the LP that suits you, and especially great to get the one you like so much back from no return, what a story! That doesn't happen much. Love the amber flame and custom appointments. Personally, I like to see them minus the pick-guard. But that's me.
Bob, you're so right about unexpectedly discovering a guitar or amp that speaks to you, especially on random occasions like visits to guitar stores. Years ago I was at a guitar show looking at a whole bunch of amazing PRS guitars, intending to buy. After frustrating the pants off the PRS rep in making a choice I discovered the thing more important was the amp I was going through. So I walked out of the show with a s/h Soldano 2x2 combo.
Relics and ageing. These days I'm a straight acoustic player. What always makes me smile when I think of the trouble and expense manufacturers go to ageing a guitar is the conversation I heard with the Everly Brothers, who toured a lot at the height of their popularity. They said that when their guitars looked "beat up" from so much heavy strumming (first using SJ200's) they would simply replace them for stage! Hence the wide double scratch-plates on their later J180's.
Finally, a quote from another famous artist. Leonard Cohen. "I always prefer cheap guitars".
Looking forward to the next vid guys.
Thanks!
Great video guys, always enjoy your uploads. The late '70s and early '80s higher-end (EG - 700 and above) Greco "Super Real" and "Vintage Collection" models are mighty good. Some of the Vintage Collection models are exceptionally close repros of the early Bursts.
I love those Grecos!!! Killer guitars!
Luxor made a nice LP as well Pups a little lacking maybe
I've got a wild idea, it's because Eric was the one playing the beano guitar that it sounds amazing
Spot on. Not so wild, then. Pure fire.
They’re both great in their own right. Either one will do the job.
Thanks Thomas!
Thanks Ramon thanks Bob
🙏🙏🙏 Thank you
Nobody in this world can sell you like you can sell yourself. Joe Bonamassa for that reason alone earns my respect, but he also seems to be a good human apart from all that. He comes off snarky perhaps at times so maybe that is why some people dot like him but I dont see that as a reason for myself to dislike him.
I got a ‘57 bought from original owner. Bought/ sold many custom lesters before I got my real ‘57. Conversions etc. Very very difficult to replicate those old guitars. My ‘57 has it all. So... save your pennies (quid). As a side note my ‘57 came from the factory with out of phase in middle. So yes that did happen. I can’t figure out why the ‘57 is amazing. Done blind fold tests. Always go back to ‘57. The custom shop guitars are pretty good but you need to play several back to back to find one that sings to you.
Every ‘57 I’ve played has been good.
Is it out of phase or just has a honky middle because PAF's are just amazing
I like joe Bo..he is just a guitar geek like the rest of us ...😀😀
Epic intro .great post cheers 👍👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
The Answer Honduran Mahogany and Seths Lovers P.A.F a match made in heaven
You are not wrong! Thanks for watching Edward!
Ah! There's my boys! Christmas came early!
Happy xmas bro
You really are way too kind, but thanks!
@@Rockbeareguitars "Albatross" was most enjoyable. Don't stay away so long.
@@TheGuitarShow Same to you...in advance. You two are delightful.
@@jltrem 👍👍👍
wonderful players
Gents, most enjoyable! Anxious for the next chat.
Thanks Dave
I love passion!
Thank you Don
SOMETHING HAPPENS WHEN I PLAY ALBATROSS, I GO INTO ANOTHER WORLD......THERE ARE PPL THAT DONT CAE FOR IT, AND I CANT UNDERSTAND.........I THINK ITS A SOUL STIRRING, CHILLING, BEAUTIFUL PEICE OF MUSIC........PETER GREEN, WAS A MAGNIFICENT TALENT! UNDERATED!
Thanks for the comment John.
Bob, please can you do a video of your ‘58 into your 633 - great video as always guys
Just done a fast and dirty demo to my phone for you, see th-cam.com/video/4XHmgZqUKOU/w-d-xo.html. While there, there’s also a demo through a Trainwreck Express clone that is visiting from a dear serious player friend. Another very nice amp, really twitchy but very responsive. Hope they’re ok for you and dare I say it, that you enjoy them 👍
G`day from Down Under chaps! GREAT episode....is the a "vintage" look you are getting with the video quality! hahaha....
haha - yeah it sucks but next video is going to be in technicolour I promise!
The only mass produced "replica" i would want is a old pre 1982 Super real 1200. Those things are disgustingly accurate to a old burst.
Hondorian Mahogany body and neck, Brazilian fingerboard, accurate wire harness,plastics are all the accurate materials
and the stock Dry Z pu's are incredible P.A.F sounding pu's.
Came here tot watch the 58 Les Paul Standard, very much enjoyed the show. I was completely surprised to see your Navigator N-LP ?380, I own a 2002 Navigator and love love the big fat neck! How does it compare to the 1958 LP neck?
Thanks Aaf - it is different but really you would need to feel them both to really understand the differences
If some day I get to meet Bob in person ,first thing I'll do is to swallow his original switch tip. Give him back in couple of days.
I actually preferred the tone on that ESP. I wasn't feeling the tone on the Gibson at all. Maybe it was the amp setting i didn't fancy, idk?
I remember Joe Bonamassa’s first album, and us all sitting around listening to this kid who had just learnt to play his dad’s record collection and put it on a covers album. I warmed to that, because that was me/us once, all of us a bit on the spectrum. Then he became his own person, but remained that kid who was primarily a fan of 70s rock-blues, adopted the Armani suit blues platform, AKA 70s Clapton, and made it a career. I don’t personally go for that, but I’d see the show any day, and I love the guy for who he is - honest. I feel almost paternal. I’ll defend him against anyone.
Don’t be afraid to say it Guitarman Bob: 225 PARSONS STREET KALAMAZOO MICHIGAN !
You can make a replica of every part perfectly, but it won't sound like Clapton etc unless they are playing them, some people have just got the magic in their fingers, but keep the vids coming 👍👍
Thanks!
Nice... Will you guys once do a comparison between Bob's two 366 Engineering amps ? And give away one of them :-))))) ?
Comparison possible and a good idea. Giveaway less likely, however!
@@Rockbeareguitars 😂 anytime Bob !
Ramon, I know you’re part Argentinian this must be a tough week for you and any family you have back in Argentina. RIP Diego
Thanks brother yes so sad I gres up there for a few years and Maradona was a hero for all the young working class.. Sad times!
Wow you're one lucky man. What i would do to own a real '59......! Beautiful. I also own one of the Edward's LP which is also a fantastic player. Not quite a Navigator but is great none the less.
Great playing guys it made me forget about the guitars.
Long time fan of the channel.I would rate this vid 10 for male cameraderie but only 1 for content. You only have to listen to Ramon taking the final break inth Albatross song and compare it to Rob just before = just the reverse of what was said earlier. I think allthis vintage adoration guff to be BS at least as regards solid guitars - Anyone got a 58 switch tip for sale?? Oh,and some certified organic aged African snake oil ?? Keep at it Boys !!!
Great comment graham - actually this video was us just having some fun as we had not seen each other for a long time - hopefully the next video will be more useful - but thanks for the feedback we always take it on board!
@@TheGuitarShow Hey Ramon - its all cool ! Sorry I let my prejudices about the vintage market to go on a bit. In fact you both raised a critical point siding with me [ ! ] when you said that the legendary Beano LP would have only been around 5 years old at date of recording. Food for thought indeed - Cheers brother !
What is your friend Fletcher's first name and can his playing be found anywhere on the internet? Also I have read several times that when the Bluesbreakers recorded the Beano album, the recording engineer asked Clapton to turn the volume on his amp down, but Clapton told him he wouldn't, and then went on to play at full volume setting, overwhelming the rest of the band in the one room studio. Then later the engineers were able to balance the mix, with the result being that classic album.
Kirk Fletcher, fab player and top guy. And yes to your story about recording the Beano album. Caused a mutiny amongst the brow-coated studio engineers of the time!
Being insistent makes great players. I once played at the BBC studios during the 70's. Engineers were still telling us to turn down then.
1. Modern nitro lacquer is not the same as used on the '50-'60s guitars, for a lot of good reasons.
2. Nitro lacquer that sat on a piece of wood for decades will feel different to how it felt brand new in '58!
Thanks for this!
It's difficult to even make your own nitrous lacquer anymore because the nitrocellulose prills can be a precursor for explosives and new governmental control on these means you need a special licence to own them! So you're stuck with buying premixed lacquer. However the work around is to use old cheap ping pong balls instead of prills.
I suppose you've seen Joe Bonamassa's huge guitar and amps dream collection...
Nice moment guys. Have you heard about Matteo Mancuso ? incredible player ! and Tom Quayle..
Thanks - Ill check out those fellas
I think there's a point you missed.some guitars just have serious mojo!. You can have 2 of the same model guitars, made by the right person, with the perfect combination of timber (no 2 pieces resonate the same), the pickups could be wound slightly differently or perfectly. I had 20 80's Jackson headstock ESP's. Both fantastic guitars, but one of them had serious mojo!.
Good points there!
Joe's the reason I got back into guitar with new found hope that I might someday play WELL
....and, I believe the knob swap wuzzoff a pix on Freddy King's goldtop album cover... (?)
so cool to hear that Jonny!
My God, Albatross is pure magic, Peter Green was a Genius, as Tommy Emmanuel once said about ‘Tears in Heaven’ (there’s a 1minute-jem video on TH-cam) and Clapton, only the Greats can tell SO much with so little. And contents about LP great as usual.
Very interesting, however...Oh how much deeper does the Japanese rabbit hole go. I had read about the Orville guitars a while back. A few years ago an opportunity arose to travel to Japan for a few events so I became excited with anticipation at the prospects of a day off in Japan looking for guitars. That fell through but I was smitten with the idea of owning one of these rare Gibson-licensed guitars. Fast forward to about a year and a half ago when on a Saturday night (and after a few drams of fine single malt) I ran across one of these on Ebay. I now own two of them, a cherry burst from 1998 and the now Goldtop, which is from 1993. It is fair to add that in my experience I have had the opportunity to play many amazing Gibson guitars and after a few upgrades my Orvilles are excellent, favorably comparable performance and recording instruments (In one of my roles I mix stage monitors for The Fab Faux, Little Steven, Etc). I have since refinished one of them as a Goldtop with TV Jones P90s. The Orville by Gibson line were a bit pricier and had nitrocellulose lacquer finishes and Gibson USA pickups.
Try a 100 watt Soldano sometime. Martin Barr bought four and says all four sound right all the time. Better than any Marshall amp he ever played. But they will set you back some $4 plus thousand dollars.
I love Soldanos amazing amps!
I think if the custom shops used older select dry wood they would be closer The amount of guitars made today doesn't let the wood set for any amount of time No stock piles either that had been sitting somewhere like in the old days
Joey B is tremendous
Can I request the next jam you guys have together can you play a few of bobs single pup ES guitars? please it’s rare to see the single pick up ones in action
Sounds good to me!
@@TheGuitarShow wicked !!!
Well that would be a pleasure.... since they’re my favourite guitars and all that....
Thank you Bob and Ramon! You two have greatly spiced up a rather bland lunch for me. I think I prefer the tone of Ramon's pickups over Bob's. I'm guessing it's just the signal path? The almighty PAF's certainly must sound superior, right??? 😬
So much going on. Different amps and stuff in signal chains so not a forensic comparison.
Plus Ramon is the way better player with more vocabulary, rhythm, commitment and attack.
But his Navigator is also a vv nice guitar in its own right.
Thanks for this - I stitched up Bob in thise video by putting him through my Mystic without the dumbleator which didnt help matters when we put in delay and reverb - my apologies
Bob's tone in the intro wasnt nice to my ear at all, might of been speaker on my phone but it didnt sound as sweet as the esp
I agree very harsh waspish tone and I was listening on hi-fi speakers.
@@nanorcs Bob's tone is usually more of a classic vintage clean/edge of break up but that intro sounded like a cheap 15 quid distortion pedal
Have to say listening back that I agree with you, not the best tone I’ve had. Unfamiliar gear and not enough attention to setup. And Ramon always outplays me!
I enjoy your videos both thank you 😊
My R9 feels sticky like you mention but I do like the guitar.
The PAF equipped original LP guitars to me sound squeaky and toppy. Which some players may exaggerate with their amp eq?
This type of sound quality I describe sometimes seems to be a feature of some of the very inexpensive pick-up variants available today..
Perhaps the original PAF’s were just that way fundamentally down to price as when you consider the sum of the parts; pick-ups were/can be a relatively basic and inexpensive product?
Is it the violin type sound characteristic that the PAF’s have when vibrato is applied particularly on the middle and bass strings that maybe sets them apart which maybe seems difficult to replicate?
So I wonder if modern pick-ups are over engineered although I appreciate there are many variables.
...I don’t think I have ever heard a vintage PAF equipped electric guitar first hand!
Interesting you tend to agree with me re the ‘stickiness’ - most RI owners find it insulting. And yes to the brightness. Old Les Paul’s and even older Tele’s have a surprising amount in common. But mine isn’t too bright though some I’ve played, especially ‘59{s can be very toppy.
Ramon, did you take the cover (s) off yourself?
Yes i did Jonny
after the chat the les paul video starts at 11:30
The Gibson might have sounded a bit better if you took the pick out of the strings! Still enjoyed it tho'. I have never found a Strat or tele I could get on with after 50 years! Confirmed top wrapper here.
Yes you’re right, good spot. I often forget, especially if I’m playing in keys that don’t use many open strings like Bb, which I do a lot.
The tone on this video is not the best - unfamiliar gear and too little attention to setup. Shows Ramon’s Navigator in a good light, though, and of course he always outplays me cos he’s much better.
For something more usual from my side, see :
th-cam.com/video/4XHmgZqUKOU/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/o0iJpe8UXr0/w-d-xo.html
In Bob's defense I really didnt set up the mystic blues amp very well - apologies to Bob, I promise I wasnt because I wanted to sound better lol!!!!
I’d love to have you compare my 1980 Greco EGF-1800 (DryZ pickups) to that burst
Damn, I feel bad for you, whether you can hear it or not there is a noticeable difference between covers on or off.
The issue with Bonamassa is that there is just a certain something missing, soul I think. I try so hard to like his work. I admire his ‘estate’ but just can’t listen for long. I can see why Bob would like him because he is the same, too obsessed with gear and lacking feeling.
Coz his rhythm weird probbly too many noodling
He has some really tasty licks, appreciates great players and loves his guitars. Can't be easy in front of a camera posted on the net.
Just a thought. They said of Buchanan, he always played his best stuff when no-one was around.
Compared to most people I know, I don’t obsess about gear though I have a lot. I do obsess about tone though, and the gear is just tools towards that goal. As for feeling, it’s a matter of opinion but you’re probably right. I certainly envy players with more feel.
@@maxwellfan55 Thanks, kind of you. Certainly true for me, I find recording hard.
@@Rockbeareguitars I like tone too but it has turned into a massive OCD industry and I see a lot of it replacing creativity, actually writing and performing. Has anyone asked Clapton about the old gear rather than speculate on the nuances. As for the statement that modern guitar makers can’t recreate the guitars of old, I think that’s a perception and maybe mental health issue to justify obsessive collection of old gear.
Love the show, gents. Am wondering if rubbing your right leg Bob, isn't due to the weight of the guitar resting on it. I used to have Les Pauls and when I sat to play, they made my right leg go numb. I'd have to place them like Ramon does, classical style haha! That or standing up with a wide padded strap.
In spite of it, I'm planning on getting another Les Paul someday soon. You two are a bad influence ha!
Bob could this be the reason lol?
Nice sound but your Albatross counting bars wrong, I'm afraid to say... thanks guys.
Joe Bossymama
And Joe B. copied the goldtop look from Freddie King's album cover?
ESP sounded pretty good The 58 sounded good too but something wasn't right Sorta harsh Must be my ears Ha after hearing Albatross I changed my mind I've a 59 P90 in my 66 SG Jr and yes it does make a difference The 50s P90s are hotter than the mid to late 60s ones for some reason Maybe cause the were hand wound instead of machine wound or the winders all were a bit different on the winds Machine manufacture can all sound the same
For me both guitars sounds bass heavy.
My Navi has a good amount of bass so well spotted
The Gibson does not sound that great, some kind of fuzzy overtones. The Nav kills it.
Thanks
Why has Bonamassa sold some of his Original Burst's?
@VaultMasterHD spot on!!! listen to the crap sound Richards got with his !
Everytime I watch this channel, dude is wearing his wife’s blouses…she don’t get mad at you?
hilarious 😂😂 love it
You can take off the switch tip to sound like Eric Clapton, but sadly you can no longer buy Woolworths baseball boots to sound like Rory Gallagher..... Shame.
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Thanks Steve Ive edited it so they are just at the beginning and end now
Joe is a white boy who wants to play the blues so bad… and he does. But he’s a very good guitarist in fact. Nothing terribly original at all, not a particularly good singer but a technically very proficient guitarist. His love of the blues means that people who are impressed by his guitar ‘pyrotechnics’ have been introduced to the blues. Nothing against Joe at all, fair play to him, but listen to ‘Albert’s Shuffle’ on the Super Session album by Mike Bloomfield and you’ll see why I don’t rate Joe as a good blues player. Still nothing against Joe.
Brilliantly put thanks John