I think there is one thing that's overlooked here. and that is basic Slytherin psychology. the kids in Slytherin would be specifically instructed by there parents to get as close to potter as possible. the hard part would not be isolation from other Slytherins but more the opposite. being surrounded by those who feed his ego and seek to use him or sacrifice him as a bargaining chip should Voldemort reappear or further there own goals by leveraging the boy who liveds status. his ability to trust people would be tested early and often.
I mean…yes. But they’re also kids. They’re still malleable. So while they’re doing their best to superficially get close to Harry ‘cause their death eater parents said so, Harry’s going to have an affect on them as well. Some of them are going to genuinely like Harry, lose interest in him, or get told off for being smarmy-out of anything that “fed Harry’s ego” it was “hey look! I’m good at Quidditch!” and getting popular that way-After he also got conceptually attractive verses Stunted And Skinny Kid Because Malnutrition (and stress messing with his appetite. And no doubt stomach lesions exasperated by stress, but not directly caused by them-yeah. Harry has evidence for suffering from IBS as well.) Also: not everyone who got sorted into Slytherin is from an old (death eater or otherwise purist) family. Many are halfbloods, newish money, not wealthy at all. And these kids are going to be “wildcards” in that they’re just that-kids.
One idea worth considering: you say that Harry would be an outcast in Slytherin, which might be true. But it always bothered me that practically everyone in Slytherin was cast as evil (or blood purists, at the very least). I think there's a strong possibility that Harry actually converts Slytherins to his side. Maybe some start out joining him because they think he's the next Dark Lord, but Harry's charismatic, and I bet some of them rally under him as the "Redeemer of Slytherin," the one who can show the goodness of their house. It might even cause a schism in Slytherin, between the old Voldemort/pureblood supporters and the new Potter/inclusive wing!
Well said. I've always thought Slytherin bad Gryffindor good was a bit too simplistic. Hufflepuffs are my favorite but I'd definitely choose a Slytherin for the next protagonist in the franchise. It needs fleshing out
LOL Harry converts them into being brave, makes them willing to sacrafice themselves to save others, stand out when they see injustice and protect the ones who weaker, stop bulling people because they're not pure bloods. In other words makes them the opposite of who they are. Yeah, very plausible! 😆
I agree , particularly if some on the children (in the same year and years above) might be pure blood and their parents purebloodists however the children may not believe the same as their parents . They may follow their parents because they don’t have any else to follow or offer a different point of view. With Harry in their house they could see the light and not follow the dark way. I agree there will be factions and Harry may have no one as he befriends people from other houses but then it may not be a big deal
If Snape was the head of Harry's House, he wouldn't even have to hide. He could openly teach Harry DoDA advanced magic and not draw any suspicion. Harry, Snape, and Dumbledore could have trained like Olympic Gymnasts year round and defeat Voldemort by Book 4.
@@archmagemc3561 Tommy boy is a Half-Blood that grew up during the Blitz, having to return to a London orphanage every year during his time in Hogwarts. I think he is aware of the devastation Muggle weapons can cause.
No offense but have you read the books? I'm assuming from the last comment this is a big joke or rather, I'm hoping lol Snape doesn't like Harry, would not have ever trained him more than he was forced to and it wouldn't have mattered that harry was in slytherin, Voldemort wouldn't take too kindly to Snape buddying up with Harry, which (again) would never happen anyway lol
Something that always rubbed me the wrong way about the troll at Halloween, Dumbledore sends every one to their dorms, including Slytherin, which is in the dungeon, where Quirrell said the troll was
It still would’ve been Smarter to just keep the students *in the Great Hall* since the entire school was literally assembled there save stragglers like Hermione. -150 pts from Dumbledore.
I still think Lucious would push Draco to become friends with Harry and then invite him to Malfoy manor for Christmas. Narcissa would be an overly dotting mother figure to Harry and they would make Harry feel like he was better than others.
I'm not sure if Harry would have accepted an invitation like this. Draco Malfoy instantly reminded him of Dudley Dursley, which is a terrible start. Lucius may have ordered his son to befriend Harry, but Draco would have stuck at the level of trying. Harry is simply disgusted by visible superiority complex, something the Malfoys couldn't hide even if they tried.
I can imagine that there are some Slytherins who aren't junior Death Eaters. In the traditional book, they keep their heads down and stay quiet. But with Harry showing that Slytherins can prove how amazing they are by beating those Gryffindors at their own game, then those Slytherins may speak up. I can see this leading to different groups. A Slytherschism, so to speak.
A civil serpent war perhaps I can see at least three camps forming here The Harry is a good guy fans The Harry is the next dark wizard we have to support him fans And the Harry's a blood trader enemies
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I think one important thing you did not mention is how Harry would probably be far more studious and overall more competent wizard if he was sorted into Slytherin. After all that is the exact reason why the Sorting hat wanted Harry there in the first place like it said, *"Plenty of courage, I see. Not a bad mind either. There's talent, oh my goodness, yes -- and a nice thirst to prove yourself... You could be great, you know, it's all here in your head, and Slytherin will help you on the way to greatness, no doubt about that"* It would also hard to believe that no one in the house of cunning would help out Harry even though he's hated by half of the house. I would imagine one of probably the older students, who can see the benefits of befriending the most famous wizard of their generation, will likely take Harry under their wing and can teach Harry a lot of things. And if nothing else, Slytherin Harry would have a better final showdown with Voldemort, that's for sure.
He mentions it in the video, that they'd probably hang out more in the library if they were friends in different houses. Honestly that would be a huge change. In the books, he and Ron were trying to do schoolwork a lot, and they did, but they were also very distracted by each other and things around them. You can spend time with others in the library, but you need to be silent or *very* quiet, almost guaranteeing that they'd do a lot more actual studying and maybe more reading for fun. Harry would learn a lot more. I know it's all conjecture, but it's interesting to think what all this time in the library could go. Maybe by their 2nd or 3rd year, they would've found some magical way to communicate without talking or without being obvious about it. Maybe similar to the diary, writing on a parchment and it appearing on everyone else's parchment like a chat. *And*, having been primed to regularly use a very discrete magical communication, Harry might have been likely to remember Sirius' mirror when he thought Sirius was in trouble in Order of the Phoenix. He still would have initially notwanted to use it, but he might quickly realize there could be the mirror, or other magical ways to get to Sirius. Would Sirius have ended up surviving thanks to this? It's crazy to think about. And incidentally, it would be an example of being more cunning in solving problems rather than the rash bravery Harry showed in Gryffinfor, which I didn't realize until after I'd typed this
Just imagining what would have happened if Hermione would have ended up in Ravenclaw, Harry in Slytherin, Ron in Gryffindor and then Neville in Hufflepuff. That would be a very interesting situation indeed.
That might be more interesting than Harry in Slytherin but everyone else staying in Gryffindor really. Certainly a more clear message of unity in the face of a greater threat. Sort of like setting the stage for D.A. four books earlier, and Slytherin actually gets in on it this time.
Honestly, I think Ron would be in Hufflepuff and Neville would be in Gryffindor. Ron is more loyal, and values friendship over anything; Neville shows himself to be one of the bravest in his house and values said bravery very high.
When McGonagall went to Wood about putting Harry on the team, she specifically told Wood that she had found him a seeker (indicating that Gryffindor was likely without a seeker at that exact moment - the previous Gryffindor seeker had graduated last school year, I believe). At least that’s what McGonagall said in the movie. I cannot recall exactly what was said in the book, but probably something similar to that. There was no indication (that I remember of) that Slytherin needed a new seeker that year. If there was an open position in the actual story, Lucius might have bribed the team to put Draco on it in his first year instead of waiting until Draco’s second year to do so. Without an open seeker position, would there have been any reason for Snape to replace the current Slytherin seeker with Harry? And even with a reason, Snape still likely wouldn’t have wanted to do it, lol. All else being the same, I don’t think Harry would have made the Slytherin team until at least his second year. And at that point, Harry and Draco would have been on the team together. Harry would have made the team based on his own merits as a seeker. And Draco - who wanted to be seeker and now has another reason to resent Harry - would make the team because his father still bought everyone new Nimbus 2001 brooms.
Yes, exactly what I thought: How would he get in the Slytherin Quidditch Team in his first year? The Slytherin Quidditch Team was not in need of a Seeker that year, was it? It was the Gryffindor Team that needed one…
This is my exact thought I don't think Harry would on the quidditch team because MGonagall would not have gone to Snape and said "you need Harry as your seeker" and since Snape's classroom is in the dungeons he would not have seen it to make the adjustment and I don't think Snape just hearing about it would have changed his sour mood towards Harry. (And I feel without quidditch things later in the story would have been very different ie.. the Hungarian horn tail encounter in book/movie 4)
Hermione wouldn't have saved Harry at the quidditch match because she wouldn't have had any reason to be suspicious of Snape. The only reason she clocked on to Snape's incantation was because Snape had it out for Harry from the very start and Harry was persistently suspicious of him.
I think he wouldn't play quidditch at all in his first year, he only got in as a team member thx to McGonagall. Even if he should helped Nevil and catches his remember all orb. I think McGonagall would be thankful for Harry and probably say he has some skill and he should probably try for quidditch the next year.
Hmm I see your point. Still, I think Hermione would've seen Snape muttering because this wasn't something a student was going to be able to perform and there couldn't have been too many teachers present. Even if all adults at Hogwarts had attended they still wouldn't be very many and therefore not too many to look through. I suppose in this scenario Hermione had an equal chance of noticing Quirrell as Snape.
@@DragonSkyNija he would have gone to snape if he was a slytherin not mcgonagall, I bet snape would have threatened him with expulsion, dragged him into Dumbledores office, and been horribly dissapointed when Dumbledore said "this is a serious offense surely severus, but expulsion for a first year student over discovering a skill he never knew he had and using it to help another student? I think instead we should give harry a warning, 10 points, and isnt Montague holding tryouts for a new seeker next week? Maybe we could overlook the fact that hes a first year and allow him to try out anyway, merlin knows he could help your team, bottom of the standings again last year?"
@@peadrianlastname McGonagall did not only decide how Harry was punished because she was the head of Gryffindor, but also because she happened to witness the incident. As I recall, Snape wasn't there. McGonagall saw his talent and because Gryffindor desperately needed a seeker she decided not to punish him. If Harry was a Slytherin McGonagall would have told him how dangerous it was and then taken points from Slytherin and/or given Harry detention, but would she have informed Snape of the incident?
We would definitely see more of the "good" Slytherin members who aren't the children of death eaters, those who fulfil the cunning and ambitious traits without being raised as pure-blood fanatics. Slytherin makes up a whole quarter of the school, they can't all be dicks, after all we do have kind of a biased viewpoint. There would surely be at least one Slytherin 1st-year who is like-minded enough for Harry to befriend
Yeah! Like Millicent is proof that there's halfblood Slytherins and I really don't think she subscribes to blood purity. I like to think harry is what gives the Slytherins a choice and he would for sure try to convince others to talk out about their disdain to blood purity
I think it would also be important to remember one additional boy who would be in the Slytherin dormitory if Harry was in that house; Theodore Nott. He was a barely mentioned character who is described as being a very clever loner. I could very much see him being friendly as an initial pretense to Harry, and then perhaps being genuinely a friend of him because of Harry in general being a nice person. Not saying he would be as close as someone like Ron, but that could very much be a potential backer of Harry if things soured occasionally with the Slytherins as a whole. His father was also an elderly Death Eater, so who knows what tension that could have created.
Not to mention blaze We know he calls someone a blood traitor in book 6 but six years before that I wonder what he was like when he first got to school especially because his father's probably dead and therefore probably not a death eater but even if he was his mom's just a gold digging Black widow not anyone with a pure blood agenda he probably got that from his friends in Slytherin
Not to mention Blaise Zabini, who seems to be in a more grey area too. Definitely not always "good" beliefs but he always seemed intelligent and not an extremist.
I like the idea of Dumbledore trying desperately to keep his plan in motion 😂, since, literally, the very first part of his plan, getting Harry into Gryffindor failed. He’s just hoping despite that, his plan still works. 😂
On the contrary, I’d like to imagine that Dumbledore would have a plan for whatever house Harry was sorted into, and that him being a Slytherin wouldn’t launch a backup plan, just an alternate plan.
Bro, you’ve been reading too many fanfics. The Sorting Hat would refuse to explain itself or listen to any Headmaster. It follows the orders of the Founders alone, and they wished for the Hat to sort students either where they would find like-minded friends or where they would reach their greatest potential.
@@Doomzdeh for the record, I haven’t read any Harry Potter fan fics. This whole dumbledores plan thing was another series made by the Carlin brothers. Idk why your so upset with it. It’s just a fun little concept idea to play around with for more Harry Potter content. Cool off.
@@danielszap6794 since Dumbledore wasn't super into the idea of Harry in Slytherin (according to Dumbledore's Big Plan) I like to think he began stress planing a whole new plan, because "Oh my merlin, Harry Potter might actually become the next Voldi! How the hex am I going to fix this???"
I like the idea of Harry asking for Slytherin specifically so he could be the one to prove that not all Slytherins are bad. Completely disproving a wide misconception about said house. I also would kinda see Hermione as a Ravenclaw and Ron as a Hufflepuff.
Love this!! The only disagreement I have is the death eater support after Harry defeats Voldemort again. I think it strengthens not dissipates. Harry has shown twice now that he's more powerful than Voldemort and death eaters follow power. It's only later they realize that Harry has no interest in their beliefs
It depends on how well-informed the deatheaters were. If they knew that Harry was friends with a muggleborn and defeated Voldemort because he's on the good side and not because he wanted to take Voldemort's place, then they'd realise that supporting Harry goes against their values
This, I feel the whole "death eaters thinking he's the next Voldemort" thing still has more potential, specially when they find out he speaks parseltongue
@@melvinberkly1596 I don't think they'd be well informed at all, at least not yet. No one would know exactly what happened and Snape would be their main source of information plus it's not like Hermione and Ron would be his only friends and he'd probably make friends in Slytherin as not all Slytherin are terrible.
Alternate theory: After he defeats Voldemort's Horcrux, some Death Eater don't abandon the idea that Harry is the new Dark Lord, instead it reinforces the fact that he is more powerful than Voldemort was.
I could see the difference coming to a head at the final battle- when McGonnagal tells the Slytherin’s to go to the dungeon and prevents them from choosing between their parents and the people of Hogwarts, Harry would be included in that group, but realistically she knows he would have to fight and this strategy wouldn’t actually work, so Harry could be the one who tells them to choose instead- and as such, that whole generation would have to pick a side. Dozens of young wizards would have chosen, one way or the other, to fight for light or dark. The fate of the wizarding world is not just in whether Harry of Voldemort win, but in all those who act one way or the other in response to the conflict.
@@yiocho220 Which I'm surprised didn't happen from the get go, as it makes sense for not every Slytherin to be for the dark. Especially assuming that some HAVE to be muggleborn or half-blood by statistics ALONE. At the VERY least some had to be neutral to the conflict, preferring to either not show up to school or leave, especially those that could aparate.
@@screamingopossum7809 we know half bloods were aloud in Slytherin... Draco probably would have helped potter if not for his father's influence on him so I think there were a few Slytherins behind potter.
I don't know if Harry and Ron would still be friends with Hermione. I kinda feel like they need to be in the same common room, so that Harry can act as a mediator between their egos. Harry is kind of a middle ground between them, and without him, they would have a much harder time connecting. Hermione could still survive the troll alone by being smart and hiding in the right place.
Yeah..........but...the golden trio need to be together.its........i just want them as a trio. So,yeah Hermione should be friends with them. Ron and Hermione might have a lot of fights. By might I mean alot.
Yeah, but this could work if Hermione was Ravenclaw and Neville, Hufflepuff. It would be a lot more like a story about misfits joining forces against a great evil.
tbf in the books its often suggested that ron and hermione enjoy their daily bickerings unlike the serious fights like about crookshanks eating scabbers and harry just doesnt get it
You're very optimistic of Harry's continued Good Heart. I've always thought that if Harry was in Slytherin he would have ended up at least partially under the influence of a Slytherin family. A smart Slytherin would have seen the boy who lived as an asset and immediately worked to get him indebted, or attached to their friend group. Harry might still have gone down the path of a hero eventually but his early Hogwarts years would probably have been defined by his longstanding desire for friends and how far he was willing to go to keep them.
I disagree. One very important fact is this. Harry is a very good kid, brave and with a good heart even despite the treatment by the Dursleys. I think he would be able to shake off any potential influence. I can't see the core of the story changing at all, even with some slight changes to the way that events happen.
Harry actually did a lot of bad things in canon. He lied a lot (even to those who he respect), tricked Slytherin’s seeker in 6th book to win the game, used fake fame as a great potion maker, tested unknown spells on everyone (including sleeping Ron), used cruciatus on Carrow for no particular reason, used imperious without any second-thoughts... there are lots of examples. And he was always happy to see how those who he hate suffer: Duddley with tail in first book, Malfoy-ferret in GoF. It was too harsh and cruel treatment even towards those two gits, but Harry thought otherwise.
@@НикаК-ъ4ф Yeah, everyone likes to pretend Harry was such an innocent. He's got grey morals at best throughout the series. It's just the hero complex that he ends up developing makes him out to be this wholesome character.
Wow, in COS, with Harry's ability to speak Parcletoung, and being sorted into Slytherin, not only will he worry more about being the heir, but the other students will be even more convinced.
I want to see a ✨multiverse✨ where Harry is only sorted into Slytherin (hermione in ravenclaw/ron in hufflepuff) iff Neville was the chosen one/boy who lived, alone in Gryffindor and has to unite all 4 Hogwarts Houses (wizarding world symbolically) to defeat Voldemort 🪄
In a few fanfics Ginny get's sorted in Slytherin. And I can see with how she would fit there. What if she only got into Gryffindor because she also asked the Hat to place her in the house where her crush was sorted. And is Harry being in Slytherin enough reason for Ginny to also go there? Don't expect it to happen in this AU you are telling us but it is an interesting thought. Also I would love to see Harry having a Slytherin friend.
Nah, The Hat admits that it considers many different factors when sorting people into the houses. Ginny is a Weasley, so she is already a shoe-in with Gryffindor, especially since she isn’t noticeably much different from her known relatives or rebellious at all against her family. Add that to her penchant for being brave, daring, and fierce, and you practically have a guaranteed Gryffindor. Not to mention the Weasley Clan’s bias against Slytherins (and many Gryffindor Families’ bias against Slytherins). Ginny wouldn’t want to face possible isolation from her family just for Harry, especially since Harry wouldn’t be Ron’s best friend in this AU. I appreciate your idea, but I don’t think it could ever realistically happen.
I don't know if just wanting to be with her crush would be reason enough to ask the Hat, but maybe she wouldn't even have to ask and the Hat itself would be more confortable putting her in Sly since a year prior it already placed the son of two Gryffindors there...
Fun fact, in the movie he forgot his line for what spell he was supposed to use and the only one he could remember was avada. The director liked it so much that he left it in
This is definitely a plausible scenario, but I don't think it can be totally discounted that Harry would have actually been shunned by Ron and befriended Draco. It would be much easier for him to just try and fit in with those around him rather than trying to maintain a friendship with someone who will already see him as something less due to what house he was placed in (Ron's distaste for Slytherin being clear and given that they really just met).
I do think he may be friends with Ron because of hermione he would just not be as close. But I think in year two Ginny would join Harry in sytherin. And they would be a couple sooner since they will both be outcasts. Ginny outcasted by her brothers. And Harry outcasted by slytherin house.
I can see Ron distancing himself from Harry just for being a Slytherin, initially or altogether, but I can't see Harry ever becoming friends with Draco. Their personalities just don't mix, plus Draco would've been infuriated by all the attention of his house mates being diverted from him to Harry.
@@limiv5272 Draco was putting up a façade since day one. We see it break apart in the 6th book when he's forced to do things he simply doesn't have the courage to do. He's scared and was groomed into his position by the Death Eaters around him. If he had someone to break apart those walls and be a support system for him that wasn't JUST his mother, he would have turned out completely different, as school would have been a safe place for him. As it stands in canon, nowhere is safe for him. He has to play the predator or risk being devoured himself.
Imagine if they knew it was Wormtail, a Gryffindor, that betrayed Harry's parents. How would Hagrid have explained that? "But he's the exception, not the rule!"
@@FantabulousFail came to say the same. Sirius was arguably James’ best friend in the world, he was James’ best man and everything. And he was a Gryffindor, even though he came from a deeply Slytherin family. And wasn’t that how they explained Sirius anyway, that he was the exception and not the rule?
@@amberbanuelos7053 it's almost like JK hadn't thought that far ahead or something, because that definitely should have come up. "There's not a witch or wizard who's gone bad that wasn't in Slytherin...except for the one who was responsible for getting your parents killed, but let's not focus on that"
I think that they never would go through the trap door because Harry would never have the "duel" with Malfoy when he could just look at Malfoys bed and see that he was still there and no duel would be happening so they wouldn't find the trapdoor or fluffy.
This is a good point. The duel is really critical to the plot of book 1. Without it they don't discover the trapdoor. Without that they may have never learned about the stone because they would have never asked Hagrid about Fluffy and never heard him talk about Nicholas Flammel. If they did go into the dark forest then Firenze may have still asked him if he knows what's hidden in the school, and when in this case Harry says no, Firenze may explain to him. But even so, they'd still have no clue about the trapdoor, or about Fluffy. One of the reasons they suspect Snape is because Harry sees the cut on his leg and associated it with Fluffy, but without knowledge of Fluffy who knows how that'd play out.
@@Lillith. But if they were in the same house Harry would be smart enough to figure out something was wrong if Malfoy suggested to meet in the trophy room and not in the common room which would be much easier for students of the same house.
Great video but I feel like the relationship between the BFFs is kinda forced, I think this scenario was a great gate to explore more of Slytherin good/gray points by having harry interact with people there. One good thing about slytherin is that people there tend to be cunning/intelligent which means they tend to like to think and judge for themselves, I doubt that harry would struggle that much to find one or two friends there.
I wish he had been sorted into Slytherin, then he would've been more of an interesting character. I think Harry was always seen as the gold boy in Gryffindor, the special one, the right one. But I can't help but feel like the writer and screenwriters used his status as the boy who lived as an excuse to make him special in everything for no reason. Why "only a really powerful wizard could've cast that spell" ..but why? harry doesn't even use a variety of spells. We spent the whole series watching him perform expelliarmus and not actually trying that hard to improve himself. The chosen one thing would still make sense. I feel like the only thing that makes him powerful is plot armour. Can Hermione be annoyingly smart sometimes? Yes...but she actually does the work. I feel like only life is happening around him instead of Harry happening in life. Don't know... It's how i feel.
Totally agree with you. He peaked on 3rd year learning a patron's and then never bothered to do anything else. Hermione carried the trio the whole way through
thats probably due to skimming over some parts/not reading in a while. Harry actually does quite a bit of magic and is normally only second to hermione in his classes hence why he does so well on the newts and owls and qualifies to be an auror
Each of the Golden Trio represents another house aside from Gryffindor. Harry shows cunning and ambition at times, like a Slytherin, Ron has loyalty to his friends, befitting a Hufflepuff, and Hermione embodies the book smarts and intelligence of a Ravenclaw.
But Ron does have several times where he isn't friends with both Harry and Hermione and though he always comes back, I feel that he isn't Hufflepuff material at least for the Loyalty part
I love the idea of “What If” videos. A lot can change from little decisions (at least if you’re a protagonist) I also love these long series, big picture series
I don't think Hermione would become part of the trio yet. I think she'd befriend Harry, but I don't think she'd become friends with Ron yet if the troll thing didn't happen. I don't think the three would have hung out together a lot yet.
Exactly. The only reason Hermione hung out around Ron was because he saved her life during the troll incident. If that didn't happen, then I feel like she'd have no reason to hang around him as Ron WAS Hermione's bully during the first book. He made fun of her A LOT. I feel like she would have distanced herself from Ron, but wouldn't have distanced herself from Harry. Harry didn't DO MUCH in regards to bullying her.
I feel like Snape would be weary of what Harry being a Slytherin meant, but would also quickly warm up to him, being able to see in Harry a bit of himself when he was at school
I don’t understand you. Lots of you seem to think that Snape is a way nicer guy than he ever was. Snape hated Harry from the very beginning, before he knew anything about him and despite knowing how Petunia had likely treated Harry his whole life. And Snape bullied him. And he bullied Neville Longbottom too. And he bullied multiple others for no reason other than to release his negativity on defenseless targets. Snape was tasked with teaching Harry Occlumency, which was a critical part of defeating Voldemort. Even then, Snape can’t let his hatred go and work for the greater good. Snape was a vindictive, hateful, and bitter man who would never have allowed himself to see the good in Harry.
@@Doomzdeh That's true of the main story. But there, Snape's vindictiveness towards Harry was compounded and intensified by his vindictiveness towards Gryffindor House (after all, the Marauders were all Gryffindors...). Here, he'd have Potter in his own House, and I agree with the analysis here that he'd be obligated to at least show outward respect, however grudging, towards Harry, even if he still felt like lashing out at him. He'd still treat the Gryffindors as badly as before, I see no reason for that to change.
Love this but I think harry would protect Neville during the flying lesson because draco reminds him of dudly and he hates bullies and he can protect someone unlike how no one protected him.
I'm wondering how much of Slytherin house actually supported Voldemort in the first place. The anti-Voldemort (or at least not pro-Voldemort) students, and the ones who just really dislike Draco, might still be friendly towards Harry Although, the "Harry is the next Dark Lord" crowd might actually be emboldened - after all, by the end of Stone, this would be the _second_ time Harry's beaten the Most Evil Dark Wizard Ever(TM) I'm wondering if Harry being in Slytherin actually makes Voldemort's return to full power less likely compared to the books
By simple Magical Demographics at least half of people in Slytherin have to be Half-Bloods. There are not enough Pureblood to go around period. Several of them don't even end up in Slytherin, so.....
Slytherin already had a seeker during Harry's first year, the position didn't open up until the next year where he would be in competition with Malfoy for the post. Meanwhile Gryfindor still needs a new seeker that first year so who would that be? The only other person who ever shows any interest in that position is Ginny and she's not at school yet. x
Also, I think Harry wouldn't play Quidditch at all, because the day of the broom class, even if Mcgonagall see him as a talented seeker she wouldn't call him to play nor tell Snape about it, and this will change a lot of things after that.
@@Oratnik88 All the Slytherins were there during that first flying lesson, they could've told Snape what had happened. As for the position of Seeker being filled, we don't actually know much from the books. It's possible Slytherin didn't have a seeker at the beginning of Harry's first year and held tryouts, selected a 7th year, and then the next year had to find a new Seeker when that student left which allowed Malfoy to get on the team.
@@Oratnik88 actually there is a case that McGonagall would tell Snape but another where she punishes Harry because if there is one way to describe MG its TOUGH but FAIR. Also is it just me it is it weird that Dumbledore was informed of a troll in the DUNGENS and send slytherens to their common room, IN THE DUNGENS.
Yeah, no kidding- I had the same thought. Not many here in the comments have brought up the real reason Snape hated Harry- because Snape was in love with Lily, and Actively chose James over him. I believe he hated Harry for that fact first & foremost.
@@memyselfi2005 Every time he looked at Harry, he saw the eyes of the only woman he ever loved, on the face of one of his worst enemies. He also treats Neville so badly because V-mort chose Harry, instead of Neville.
I would love to see more of these 'what if' style episodes! like is Hermione was in Ravenclaw, she might not even end up being friends with Harry and Ron, or if Harry wasn't sent to the Dursleys but instead adopted by the Weasleys, Harry probably wouldn't end up with ginny, seeing as they would grow up as brother and sister.
So incredibly excited for this series!!! I agree that a lot would stay the same despite Harry being in Slytherin. Also, since Narcissa allies with Harry at the very end in canon, I'd love to hear your thoughts someday on how she might do so earlier in this scenario-and what the results of that might look like.
So excited for you to cover the rest of the books with this theory! I think that Snape would still hate Harry regardless of which house he's in, but I could maybe see him being slightly more lenient with Harry in Slytherin. Or at least initially pretending not to hate Harry for the sake of appearances among the former Death Eaters. However, I'm not sure I buy Harry still ending up on the Quidditch team in his first year. Only the students and Mcgonagall saw his impressive first flight, not Snape. And given Snape's hatred of James Potter (a star Quidditch player) I just can't see him giving such preferential treatment to Harry the way Mcgonagall did.
i feel like after a bit snape would be able to warm up to him more because he’d be forced to see harry more as his own person rather than james potter’s kid (also harry’s so much like lily so there’s that)
@@shriya9925 Fat chance of that happening. Harry is bullied by Snape right away in the books, and Snape never gave him a real chance. I can imagine that Snape would only be more lenient with Harry because he doesn’t want to dock points off of his own house.
Ooh this is gonna be a cool series. A few minor predictions for each year 2: polyjuice potion won't even come up. 3: after seeing a dark wizard who was a gryffindor Harry feels a little more comfortable about being a slytherin. 4: slytherin backs harry instead of Cedric, pushing slytherin and hufflepuff even further apart. 5: a few slytherins might actually sympathize with Harry and join Dumbledore's army 6: Harry and malfoys fight might happen sooner and in a different location. 7: honestly got nothing Harry isn't even in the school for most of this one
Honestly 4 and above might not even happen as after killing Voldermort twice more (book 1&2), Voldermort would be well on his way to being relegated the next Grindewald.
I think the story would dramatically change if Harry was sorted into Slytherin. Malfoy for one would ditch Crabbe and Goyle, as who wouldn't want to be besties with the boy who lived. Snape on the other hand could be tricky, maybe he would learn to see less of James, and more of Lily.
I do think Harry was in good terms with him, when they met at Madam Malkin's robes, it all changed when he met Ron. If he hadn't met Ron, things would have been different.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers I don’t think Draco and Harry would be friends either way, but Draco would be more willing to put their differences aside if they had to fight some bigger evil.
Draco's first comments, even before he insulted the person who was currently in the process of introducing Harry to the Wizarding World, already had Harry mentally comparing him to Dudley. That's definitely not on good terms by any means
I think that while Harry, Ron and Hermione would still be good friends, it would be Harry and Hermione who are closest, rather than Harry and Ron. They were both outsiders in their house, and I could see Harry being more studious (I feel like Ron is one of the reasons he isn't in the books) and Harry and Hermione hanging out in the library. Plus while I think that Ron would get over Harry being in Slytherin, he would distance himself a bit at first, and be more wary, whereas Hermione probably wouldn't. And I think that Ron's brothers (especially Fred and George) would joke about Ron being friends with a Slytherin, which also wouldn't help Ron's insecurities.
Although thinking about that, I wonder if Snape would see himself and Lily in Harry and Hermione. A half-blood Slythering friends with a muggleborn Gryffindor
@@alexcole8768 That is what I think would happen to Harry's story a lot as well with many parallels to Snape and Lilly, which ironically probably tugs on the memories of Snape enough that he ends up helping Harry chose the opposite choice he did that more less ruined his life.
I think Harry and Draco's relationship would have been completely different over time. And Harry would eventually have befriended Draco as he came to realise just how difficult things were for Draco in the half blood Prince. Harry would definitely have made friends with some Slytherin's who are good and kind, he would have still made friends with Luna and gotten a date easier with Cho but I also think he would have noticed Ginny much earlier on. I'm glad Harry did not go in Slytherin purely because he would have remained isolated and found it difficult to come to terms with who he is. But I do think JK should have introduced more Slytherin's who challenged Harry's perception of them as being all cruel and selfish.
I agree, I always thought the gryfindor =good slitherin = bad could have been done with more nuance. Then again, easy for me to say as I didn’t write the novels, but it would have made things more interesting.
Really the Sorting Hat was saying that Harry would have done well anywhere. It was Harry himself who caused it to specifically focus on his aversion to being in Slytherin.
You know the sorting hat wanting to put Harry into Slytherin makes sense. I mean when he was first sorted no one knew he was Volde's Horcrux. I mean if Tom was Slytherin's heir and was a Slytherin himself then the hat can probably sense that piece of soul and want to put him in slytherin because of it.
This sounds like a much more dynamic and nuanced story! I love it! I do think what she did was good at the time necause it appealed to a younger audience and was easier for us to understand. I know that I was annoyed with how cranky Harry was in book 5, can't imagine I would have liked the books if he was like that the whole series. I would enjoy that story more now as an adult though, but the reason Harry Potter was so successful was because it appealed to children.
I’m very excited for this series! But I think there’s a possibility that Harry would not have been a seeker on the Slytherin team. The only reason he was recruited so young on the Gryffindor team was bc of Charlie Weasley’s graduating and leaving that position empty. So I don’t know how he and Hermione would have had the opportunity to be friends. And they wouldn’t have been looking to Snape bc their dynamic may have been completely different as you guys said.
If Harry was sorted into Slytherin, I think Dumbledore and Hagrid would have been more reserved with him. Hagrid may never have gotten close enough to him to end up discussing Fluffy and outlining the stone's protections - but Snape might have filled that role. Dumbledore would probably not have prepared the encounter with the Mirror of Erised, which would have stymied Harry at the end.
I love this concept and I'm waiting eagerly on how you spin the story going forward, but I have to disagree on Harry becoming a seeker in his first year. In the OG, Harry was chosen as a seeker by McG, because she wanted to see her team win and therefore ignored the rules for that instance. (As a reminder: no flying without supervision, no first years on quidditch teams and no brooms for first years.) Also Gryffindor was in need of a seeker, so this was a no-brainer. If Harry was in Slytherin though, McG would take him to Snape and demand a punishment for his misbehaviour. I don't think Snape would have enough affection towards Harry to disregard Minerva and reward him for the same behaviour that he hated James for. And even if he did, making Harry a seeker wouldn't be on his mind, since the Slytherin team already had one. But that would also mean that Harry stepping up for Neville is even more impactful, because in this instance he wasn't rewarded for it. The gryffindors would know that he protected one of them for totally altruistic reasons.
All very good points, I was watching this thinking, yes this could have all carried out the same way more or less as he’s saying, only thing that bugged me was that all of these theories are almost being presented to the audience as an absolute truth, when of course any of us can have this same proposition and weave it into the same timeline to suite our narratives of what would and wouldn’t have been different.
If Harry got sorted into Slytherin, then I think Draco would still try to be friends with him, since I think the only major reason Draco stops is because Harry gets sorted into Gryffindor, and the two may start to debate things(what about I have no idea) in the common room.
I'd say that the defining feature for Harry ending up in Slytherin would be the Dursleys being how they are. Imagine a conversation in Madam Malkin's where Harry is a little more open and talkative and mentions to Malfoy that he doesn't know anything about Hogwarts. Malfoy would naturally ask if he is Muggleborn to which Harry would respond that his parents were a witch and a wizard. Harry would then tell Malfoy that he was raised by muggles though and when asked about the experience Harry would find immediately common ground with Malfoy on the topic. The conversation would then continue in a much friendly manor leading up to Harry's name reveal after which the conversation would continue even more friendlier. Malfoy would without a doubt ask Harry to join him and his friends for the trainride and maybe even stay at the Malfoys for the reminder of time. After that it would be a done deal.
A point that was overlooked though is McGonagall tells Harry that not all rule breaking will result in reward and she doesn't punish him because Gryffindor needed a seeker. So i honestly don't think Harry joins the slytherin team at least at this moment
Really cool theory! In my opinion, Hary would still have some support from the Death Eaters after redefeating Voldemort, since they may just see it as Harry finishing the job and getting rid of the competition so he can stand as the sole Dark Wizard. Obviously this is not the case, but it would mean Lucius still has some hope for him come Year 2
True by the end of Chamber of secrets , Harry has faced and defeated the dark lord thrice. So many of Voldemort’s followers would definitely gather under Harry if he was in slytherin
There are already quite a few scenarios written in the form of fan fiction where Harry gets sorted into Slytherin. My personal favorite is "With Strength of Steel Wings" by AngelaStarCat.
I am pretty curious as to how this would turn out. Given the bad blood between Gryffindor and Slytherin, I see it as quite a bit more unlikely that Harry would be friends with Ron or Hermoine, or even, with the troll incident not happening at all, that Ron and Hermoine would never have been friends, let alone eventually husband and wife, as Harry and Ron pretty much loathed her as an insufferable know-it-all before that point. I can't see Harry getting past the stuff that guards that Stone without the help of Ron and Hermoine. I'm wondering if Harry would have risked his life to save Ginny by going into the Chamber to save her in the second book (it was his best friend's sister there). In the third book, I don't see how Harry could have saved Sirius without the Time Turner, which he wouldn't have if he'd never been friends with Hermoine. With Sirius being Kissed in the third book, the Death Eaters would need another bait to lure Harry into the Hall of Prophecy. While it's possible he may have befriended Luna Lovegood and taken him with her, I don't think Harry and Luna would have fared that well against the Death Eaters without Hermoine, Ron, Ginny, and Neville coming along. And, most of all, Harry would be absolute TOAST without Ron and Hermoine in Deathly Hallows. On the flip side, if Harry had been in Slytherin, Severus Snape may have realized that Harry was NOT his father and actually befriended him, though this in itself could be risky, as if he was too friendly with Harry, the Horcrux connection with Harry's scar could lead Voldermort to realizing Snape was a double-agent AGAINST him. Still, the idea of Harry being friends with Snape could be useful, given all of the stuff he knew in both potions and curses and all. In that regard, Harry might have more prepared as a duelist against Voldermort and his minions than he was in the actual timeline. Also, if Harry had encountered Draco in that scene in the bathroom in book six, perhaps Harry could have gotten the truth out of him as a fellow Slytherin and even offered to help (though, admittedly, that might have made it harder for Snape to kill Dumbledore, as one of the reasons he did it was to stop Draco from doing it under pressure and splitting his soul.) Also, if Harry had befriended Ron anyway, he WOULD have been expelled in the second book if he'd taken the car and everything still. Snape said that had they been in Slytherin, they'd both be on the train home tonight. However, McGonnagal only gave them detention and said if they acted out against they'd be expelled.
Seeing as how the last time you guys made a series like this was 2 years ago, about Dumbledore. Maybe two years from now, you could make a series where Draco is sorted into gryffindor. After all Snape was in slytherin, but at one point Dumbledore points out Snape's bravery and how he thinks they sort too early.
I can see the relationship between slytherin harry and the malfoy's being very similar to peter parker and Norman Osborn "why son, why can't you be more like your friend" which drives draco deeper and deeper into darkness
There’s no canonical evidence that says Harry definitely would’ve been sorted to Slytherin had he not requested otherwise, the hat simply says he could do great things there. For all we know the hat could’ve still decided to place him in Gryffindor without the aid of Harry’s request
Exactly. I always felt that the hat was testing Harry. If he was a true Slytherin, the promise of the great things he could do in Slytherin would tempt him. His ambition would be his strongest trait and the hat would see he belonged in Slytherin. But he wasn't tempted, so the hat saw that he was not driven by ambition and would be a better fit for Gryffindor.
An interesting concept that I have always hoped would be covered by this wonderful channel! I'm excited to see more. P.S. Would anyone else find it funny if J were to wear the same shirt for every episode of this series?
When it comes to the points though, harry, hermione, Neville, and Draco each lose 50 from Norbert. That's 150 from G and 50 from S. You can balance the rewards at the end, but G would have 50 extra points and S 50 fewer, so things change drastically
Yes, the -50 from Harry swings toward Gryffindor's advantage there, but the +60 swings stronger toward Slytherin at the end. Regardless of which house he is in, Harry is worth +10 points when considering those two events, so the house he is in gets that advantage over the other house. In fact, using the 472 to 312 numbers, but adjusting for Harry's -50 swing, Slytherin would still have the lead over Gryffindor at 422 to 362 before adding Harry's extra 60 points (so even Hermoine's, Ron's, and Neville's combined 110 additional points aren't enough to overcome that lead, with the final total being 482 Slytherin to 472 Gryffindor, and you can see the 10-point advantage I mentioned earlier).
And Griffindore losses to Slytherin which changes the points, and Harry still won 60 at the end which is more then what he lost, + who knows whether he ever goes to the forest, I mean there is simply no reason to make Draco still find out about it, instead you could simply skip the entire expirence for it doesn't change anything in the end
How would he get in the Slytherin Quidditch Team in his first year? The Slytherin Quidditch Team was not in need of a Seeker that year, was it? It was the Gryffindor Team that needed one…
Questions: Would Neville not end up closer to Harry, feeling grateful for Harry getting his Rememberall? (He is also often an odd one out) The Slytherin Common Room is in the dungeon - where the troll was believed to be, would the Slytherins still have been sent to their common rooms (why were they sent to their common room?) Do you really think that no one would have told Harry his parents were in Griffindor till Hagrid does at the end of the year? (At one point I think Hermione originally shows him the trophy cabinet showing his father was on the Griffindor team? would none of the bullies have tried to hold it against him?) Would no-one in Slytherin have made friends with him prior to Draco causing issues, there are a few quieter Slytherins who may have got on with him? Would none of them thought it showed cunning and forethought to befriend someone who is likely powerful
Harry will always view bullies with anathema verging on loathing. Being in Slytherin; meeting Ron; meeting Draco; that pales compared to growing up with Dudley. I've long thought that The Sorting Hat's criteria could be boiled down to "What can this student teach, or best exemplify," and "What does this student need to learn, or need good examples of?" Harry taught Dudley how to be less of a bully. He might have even taught Draco the same thing. Thinking about it, maybe the Hat has another criterion: What does each house lack?
I've read a couple of fanfiction following this premise, and they're so cool! It's now one of my favorite tags for HP fics :3 Although, the stories weren't shy of canon divergence, because they're 11 years at the beginning, highly maleable minds, and different choices make different outcomes that will shape 7 years of Hogwarts studies + the eventual war
@@atanaZion For only HP I got; *Harry Potter and the Slytherin Ideal* by PreciousLadyAthena. Teen and Undiences Up, No Archive Warnings Apply, Gen. Premise; Hagrid was sick so it was Snape who picked him up. Now there's two excitable 11 yr olds trying to make Slytherin a good place :D This one wasn't for everyone because for starters, Harry and Draco act and think like children, Harry's given more internalized bad habits and expectations for people to mistreat him so he tries to please everyone. *Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Butterfly* by LitGal. Not Rated, No Archive Warnings Apply. Premise; What if Draco was nice when he met Harry at Diagon Alley? It's been a while since I checked it, but it was also about Harry being friends with Draco and becoming a good influence in his house. CROSSOVER HP-AOT Attack on Titan Spoilers/AU *War Pigs* by qrtxc_lucian. Teen and Audiences Up, Graphic Depictions of Violence, Gen. Premise; Eren Jeager dies at the end of his anime and his soul gets stuck in a dead baby ei. the original Harry Potter. He still has his memories but now needs to adapt to the "modern" british life. He discovers that "-Harry- you're a wizard!" and now he has to deal with that too. I was intrigued on the premise of Eren Potter, and it caught me almost immediately. Sweet sweet PTSD and somewhat concealed violent tendencies, it's been on hiatus because of college and will go back in December.
I usually can't get behind fan-theories this deep... but it's you guys; you have a solid grasp of the events of the books and you know the characters enough that it all sounds truly plausible. Well done! I hope to see more soon!
I am a very big Slytherin Harry enthusiast, I think that there’s a huge amount of potential for so many stories and plots to be written from this premise, and it opens the door to explorations into Wizard Culture, potentially converting baby Slytherins to the good side, being either a pariah or popular in Slytherin depending on if people think him defeating Voldy is a good or bad thing and if his clout is worth leeching onto, and more. Really, some of the best Harry Potter fanfics I’ve read (like Evitative by Vichan on ao3) were Slytherin!Harry fics, and I love it so much!
something that has always fascinated me is just how much was set up in the Chamber of Secrets that had pay-offs in the later books house-elves, the borrow, Mundungus Fletcher, Cornelius Fudge, Lucius Malfoy, the Whomping Willow, Fawkes, polyjuice potion, squibs, Expelliarmus, Floo power, almost every harry looks at in Borgin and Burkes (which include Draco Malfoy's hand-of-glory, the necklace that curses Katie Bell in book 6, and The Vanishing cabinet) the four founders, the Headmaster's office, Azkaban, The sword of Gryffindor, and freakin Horcruxes, And that just off the top of my head without rereading the book im sure there is more that i didnt catch or think of
I would say theres always the chance that Harrys defeat of voldemort would make wizards rally around him, due to him then maybe being seen as the great new dark wizard
Nah. Since Malfoy got sorted into Slytherin before Harry was sorted, he would have known that whatever house Malfoy got into was one he didn't want to be in. As he watched Malfoy get sorted into Slytherin, he would have definite knowledge of where he did not want to be and he would STILL ask the hat "not Slytherin". Interesting theory though.
Not sure he would still be in quidditch - Professor McGonagall is personally invested in quidditch herself and with Slytherin holding on to the cup I don't know for certain that she would be happy to make it worse. - professor McGonagall is not Harry's head of house, Snape is, and I think that means it would be Snapes decision instead. - *Oliver wood* (Gryffindor's quidditch captain) was in need of a seeker so Harry's impressive performance was at the perfect time, we (at least I) don't know if Slytherin were also in a need for a seeker (or if they'd be happy to have him given how they feel about him (discussed in the video))
What if Snape starts projecting himself onto Harry? With Harry having best friends in Gryffindor who get together, plus his later issues with Ron, it’s not that hard to imagine.
Great video, as always. I am not, however, convinced, that Harry woul be so drawn to the good side. The fact, that the death-eaters expected him to be a new dark lord does not mean he must support Voldemort. Afterall, for all they know he killed him so that he could REPLACE him, not join him. So in my vie, Harry could be coaxed to the dark side by the slitherins. They would tell him, that he is destined to become the new big dark thing. He would still defeat Voldemort at year-end, but this time he would do it as plain revenge and also for his own glory. At this point the death-eaters would love him! He would have shown for the seccond time, that he is more powerfull than Voldy and he would be on his way to take over himself...
You're forgetting a key part of his personality That kid is a factory for humble pie He's already famous and popular and told he's being destined for great things in the series and he doesn't really like it much and kind of wishes it would stop and doesn't really want the attention I don't think that would change just because he was in a different house his personality would still be the same
Harry is still the same person in this scenario and while I'm sure being sorted into Slytherin would have a huge impact on his life I don't see him ever wanting to harm people on purpose
@@lahlybird895 But the Death Eaters wouldn't know why he did so even though he did for revenge or to prevent him from being a threat would they know that, they are not in his head
He would get the sword or he would have stopped Ginny sooner since she would be in slytherin also in this what if. She chose griffin because Harry and would have been sent to slytherin because the book. And Harry would date Ginny a lot sooner if they are both in slytherin
I don’t think he’d be an outcast, Slytherins will do anything to get ahead, and have as many connections as possible. Harry is a celebrity, so yeah that probably wouldn’t happen. Also there are Slytherins that have turned out alright, Scrimgeour for example. Also Andromeda Tonks as well as Arthur Weasley’s mother both of who are from the black Family and not Sirius would have been in Slytherin. I’ve also for a while now suspected that Moody may have been in Slytherin. I think a fair few may fallow him.
I would disagree with your observation. I would think either Malfoy would have apologized after the sorting or Harry would have helped hide the rememberball. Malfoy would have taken Ron's place in the story essentially. If Harry defeated Quirrel/Voldemort he would have used it to build his ego up.
Wonder how many years back you'd have to go for a first year slytherin seeker never know might be mundane in a different house, also I wonder if Harry would take on the more combative style of slytherin players, knowing no different he may have perceived that, as the way you normally play.
No, I think when they say he's the youngest in a century that means the youngest in the entire school in a century, I don't think it would be nearly as special as they make it out to be if it regularly happened, just not in Gryffindor. Also remember that first years aren't allowed their own brooms at school, Dumbledore tweaks the rules for Harry's/Gryffindor's sake, so any first year wanting to apply would have to do so with a sub-par school broom.
@@Blixthand that's probably true, although with the theory the last one was Dumbeldore it would be pretty odd that both were in gryffindor the sorting hat is doing some shenanigans there and I can imagine a Malfoy bringing there own broom even if disallowed, probably a past diggory, weasley or Bagman as they were comfortable rule breakers, in both generations for the weasleys
I'm still not sure how he gets on the team to be honest since that whole scene in the book was pretty Gryffindor focused I don't exactly see McGonagall rooting for another house to get a good seeker and Snape wasn't there for that whole thing But if he did end up on the team yeah probably he would pick up the southern style because of his captain although I'm sure at some point his friend Ron who's also into quidditch would probably tell him that's not how you play and Hermione might also still give him the book on the sport where he can read up on all the fouls and stuff
I like how this fan theory so closely mirrors the actual story. It reminds me of Dumbledore's quote: "It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities"
3:49 which is odd because that actually isn't in the movie and it makes the movie super odd. He only chose not to be in slytherin because of that.. but in the movie he didn't know about the houses till he arrived. The movies always miss the most important things.
I love this video! I actually think that if Harry hadn't thought "Not Slytherin," the sorting hat wouldn't have mentioned it at all. To me it felt more like the sorting hat responding to Harry's concern, not that it was what the hat was going to do.
I did this with my "Harry's twin" fic with one in Gryffindor and one in Slytherin, I really do think the surrounding community and individuals make a huge difference in what path people choose in life.
Draco waiting until they were sorted, and asking to be friends with Harry -- *that* could be a future What If scenario. I was kinda hoping that, since Harry was sorted into Slytherin, Hermione would be in Ravenclaw, but they'd still be the Golden Trio.
@@ked49 Harry however would probably be a far better wizard though and depending how the death eaters react to Voldermorts multiple failures, there mightn't even be a plot to get Harry in the tournament, since they'd be too busy fighting an internal war over whose their new figure head.
The point at 14:59 actually made me imagine a scene, prior to the Quidditch match, where Harry and Hermione happen to meet after each of them has just suffered some quarrel or humiliation in their respective Houses. Hermione confides in Harry that, while she was happy at first to be sorted into Gryffindor, she's so isolated because of her know-it-all reputation that she wishes she'd been sorted into Ravenclaw; Harry, for his part, tells her of his House's penchant for the Dark Arts and how so many of his housemates are actually disappointed in his rejection of them, and how he wishes he'd be in any house except Slytherin; Hermione responds by recalling the Rememberall incident and telling Harry, "sometimes I feel you're more of a Gryffindor than I am". This creates an initial bond between them which leads Harry to defend Hermione the next time he sees Ron mocking her, which initially upsets Ron but later actually leads him to start reconsidering his treatment of Hermione. Of course, what really cements this is the Quidditch match incident.
Or maybe the trigger for that initial conversation would actually be Harry standing up for her against Snape -- when none of her fellow Gryffindors would...
I think there is one thing that's overlooked here. and that is basic Slytherin psychology. the kids in Slytherin would be specifically instructed by there parents to get as close to potter as possible. the hard part would not be isolation from other Slytherins but more the opposite. being surrounded by those who feed his ego and seek to use him or sacrifice him as a bargaining chip should Voldemort reappear or further there own goals by leveraging the boy who liveds status. his ability to trust people would be tested early and often.
Draco would be so angry that his father is in the group that attempts to gain Harry's favor.
@@entelechy00 "My grandfather will here about this!"
I mean…yes. But they’re also kids. They’re still malleable. So while they’re doing their best to superficially get close to Harry ‘cause their death eater parents said so, Harry’s going to have an affect on them as well. Some of them are going to genuinely like Harry, lose interest in him, or get told off for being smarmy-out of anything that “fed Harry’s ego” it was “hey look! I’m good at Quidditch!” and getting popular that way-After he also got conceptually attractive verses Stunted And Skinny Kid Because Malnutrition (and stress messing with his appetite. And no doubt stomach lesions exasperated by stress, but not directly caused by them-yeah. Harry has evidence for suffering from IBS as well.)
Also: not everyone who got sorted into Slytherin is from an old (death eater or otherwise purist) family. Many are halfbloods, newish money, not wealthy at all. And these kids are going to be “wildcards” in that they’re just that-kids.
@@snaketooth0943 bro dead from dragon pox tho
@@risen3031 oh, really? Sorry, then.
One idea worth considering: you say that Harry would be an outcast in Slytherin, which might be true. But it always bothered me that practically everyone in Slytherin was cast as evil (or blood purists, at the very least). I think there's a strong possibility that Harry actually converts Slytherins to his side. Maybe some start out joining him because they think he's the next Dark Lord, but Harry's charismatic, and I bet some of them rally under him as the "Redeemer of Slytherin," the one who can show the goodness of their house. It might even cause a schism in Slytherin, between the old Voldemort/pureblood supporters and the new Potter/inclusive wing!
I see your point but I don't think Harry would do that in his first year
Well said. I've always thought Slytherin bad Gryffindor good was a bit too simplistic. Hufflepuffs are my favorite but I'd definitely choose a Slytherin for the next protagonist in the franchise. It needs fleshing out
LOL Harry converts them into being brave, makes them willing to sacrafice themselves to save others, stand out when they see injustice and protect the ones who weaker, stop bulling people because they're not pure bloods. In other words makes them the opposite of who they are. Yeah, very plausible! 😆
I agree , particularly if some on the children (in the same year and years above) might be pure blood and their parents purebloodists however the children may not believe the same as their parents . They may follow their parents because they don’t have any else to follow or offer a different point of view. With Harry in their house they could see the light and not follow the dark way. I agree there will be factions and Harry may have no one as he befriends people from other houses but then it may not be a big deal
Great thought. I definitely believe there were some voldy supporters who were waiting to see what happened with Harry and his sorting.
If Snape was the head of Harry's House, he wouldn't even have to hide. He could openly teach Harry DoDA advanced magic and not draw any suspicion. Harry, Snape, and Dumbledore could have trained like Olympic Gymnasts year round and defeat Voldemort by Book 4.
I mean, Snape is the head professor of Slytherin house, so Harry would still be under his wing regardless.
Pretty much, but lets be honest. To beat Voldimort you just need a .45. He has no defense or even knowledge of muggle weapons.
@@archmagemc3561 Tommy boy is a Half-Blood that grew up during the Blitz, having to return to a London orphanage every year during his time in Hogwarts. I think he is aware of the devastation Muggle weapons can cause.
@@archmagemc3561 Pretty sure muggle technology cannot kill a wizard.
No offense but have you read the books? I'm assuming from the last comment this is a big joke or rather, I'm hoping lol Snape doesn't like Harry, would not have ever trained him more than he was forced to and it wouldn't have mattered that harry was in slytherin, Voldemort wouldn't take too kindly to Snape buddying up with Harry, which (again) would never happen anyway lol
Something that always rubbed me the wrong way about the troll at Halloween, Dumbledore sends every one to their dorms, including Slytherin, which is in the dungeon, where Quirrell said the troll was
I love the fact that he indangered two whole houses slytherins and the hufflepuffs without a single thought
Probably because if I’m correct JK Rowling hadn’t come up with where the common rooms for the other houses were at this point.
It still would’ve been Smarter to just keep the students *in the Great Hall* since the entire school was literally assembled there save stragglers like Hermione.
-150 pts from Dumbledore.
@Bilan Keynan but if dumbledor knew that its gonna move there
How did he know?
You're forgetting that he sent the kids off with chaperones (Prefects), to their houses. I.E. they had protection if they actually ran into it.
I still think Lucious would push Draco to become friends with Harry and then invite him to Malfoy manor for Christmas. Narcissa would be an overly dotting mother figure to Harry and they would make Harry feel like he was better than others.
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@@HipHopAnotomus ew what
I'm not sure if Harry would have accepted an invitation like this. Draco Malfoy instantly reminded him of Dudley Dursley, which is a terrible start. Lucius may have ordered his son to befriend Harry, but Draco would have stuck at the level of trying. Harry is simply disgusted by visible superiority complex, something the Malfoys couldn't hide even if they tried.
Everyone has these great theories and I’m like 🤔 “the green would’ve went lovely with his eyes”
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I can imagine that there are some Slytherins who aren't junior Death Eaters. In the traditional book, they keep their heads down and stay quiet. But with Harry showing that Slytherins can prove how amazing they are by beating those Gryffindors at their own game, then those Slytherins may speak up. I can see this leading to different groups. A Slytherschism, so to speak.
A civil serpent war perhaps I can see at least three camps forming here
The Harry is a good guy fans
The Harry is the next dark wizard we have to support him fans
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I think one important thing you did not mention is how Harry would probably be far more studious and overall more competent wizard if he was sorted into Slytherin. After all that is the exact reason why the Sorting hat wanted Harry there in the first place like it said, *"Plenty of courage, I see. Not a bad mind either. There's talent, oh my goodness, yes -- and a nice thirst to prove yourself... You could be great, you know, it's all here in your head, and Slytherin will help you on the way to greatness, no doubt about that"*
It would also hard to believe that no one in the house of cunning would help out Harry even though he's hated by half of the house. I would imagine one of probably the older students, who can see the benefits of befriending the most famous wizard of their generation, will likely take Harry under their wing and can teach Harry a lot of things.
And if nothing else, Slytherin Harry would have a better final showdown with Voldemort, that's for sure.
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He mentions it in the video, that they'd probably hang out more in the library if they were friends in different houses. Honestly that would be a huge change. In the books, he and Ron were trying to do schoolwork a lot, and they did, but they were also very distracted by each other and things around them. You can spend time with others in the library, but you need to be silent or *very* quiet, almost guaranteeing that they'd do a lot more actual studying and maybe more reading for fun. Harry would learn a lot more.
I know it's all conjecture, but it's interesting to think what all this time in the library could go. Maybe by their 2nd or 3rd year, they would've found some magical way to communicate without talking or without being obvious about it. Maybe similar to the diary, writing on a parchment and it appearing on everyone else's parchment like a chat. *And*, having been primed to regularly use a very discrete magical communication, Harry might have been likely to remember Sirius' mirror when he thought Sirius was in trouble in Order of the Phoenix. He still would have initially notwanted to use it, but he might quickly realize there could be the mirror, or other magical ways to get to Sirius. Would Sirius have ended up surviving thanks to this? It's crazy to think about. And incidentally, it would be an example of being more cunning in solving problems rather than the rash bravery Harry showed in Gryffinfor, which I didn't realize until after I'd typed this
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Just imagining what would have happened if Hermione would have ended up in Ravenclaw, Harry in Slytherin, Ron in Gryffindor and then Neville in Hufflepuff. That would be a very interesting situation indeed.
Voldemort might have won in that case. Too much separation of the good guys
@@TheAutisticBrony which makes the plot more interesting. How can different houses unite to fight Voldemort
That might be more interesting than Harry in Slytherin but everyone else staying in Gryffindor really. Certainly a more clear message of unity in the face of a greater threat. Sort of like setting the stage for D.A. four books earlier, and Slytherin actually gets in on it this time.
Honestly, I think Ron would be in Hufflepuff and Neville would be in Gryffindor. Ron is more loyal, and values friendship over anything; Neville shows himself to be one of the bravest in his house and values said bravery very high.
@@abyssviii434 which is what people tend to forget. it's not the virtues you actually might have that matter, it's what you value and want.
When McGonagall went to Wood about putting Harry on the team, she specifically told Wood that she had found him a seeker (indicating that Gryffindor was likely without a seeker at that exact moment - the previous Gryffindor seeker had graduated last school year, I believe). At least that’s what McGonagall said in the movie. I cannot recall exactly what was said in the book, but probably something similar to that.
There was no indication (that I remember of) that Slytherin needed a new seeker that year. If there was an open position in the actual story, Lucius might have bribed the team to put Draco on it in his first year instead of waiting until Draco’s second year to do so. Without an open seeker position, would there have been any reason for Snape to replace the current Slytherin seeker with Harry? And even with a reason, Snape still likely wouldn’t have wanted to do it, lol.
All else being the same, I don’t think Harry would have made the Slytherin team until at least his second year. And at that point, Harry and Draco would have been on the team together. Harry would have made the team based on his own merits as a seeker. And Draco - who wanted to be seeker and now has another reason to resent Harry - would make the team because his father still bought everyone new Nimbus 2001 brooms.
Yes, exactly what I thought: How would he get in the Slytherin Quidditch Team in his first year? The Slytherin Quidditch Team was not in need of a Seeker that year, was it? It was the Gryffindor Team that needed one…
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i think the previous Gryffindor seeker was charlie
Could be Harry joins as a chaser, a position Draco then gets the following year when Harry becomes seeker.
This is my exact thought I don't think Harry would on the quidditch team because MGonagall would not have gone to Snape and said "you need Harry as your seeker" and since Snape's classroom is in the dungeons he would not have seen it to make the adjustment and I don't think Snape just hearing about it would have changed his sour mood towards Harry. (And I feel without quidditch things later in the story would have been very different ie.. the Hungarian horn tail encounter in book/movie 4)
Hermione wouldn't have saved Harry at the quidditch match because she wouldn't have had any reason to be suspicious of Snape. The only reason she clocked on to Snape's incantation was because Snape had it out for Harry from the very start and Harry was persistently suspicious of him.
I think he wouldn't play quidditch at all in his first year, he only got in as a team member thx to McGonagall. Even if he should helped Nevil and catches his remember all orb. I think McGonagall would be thankful for Harry and probably say he has some skill and he should probably try for quidditch the next year.
@@DragonSkyNija yes
Hmm I see your point. Still, I think Hermione would've seen Snape muttering because this wasn't something a student was going to be able to perform and there couldn't have been too many teachers present. Even if all adults at Hogwarts had attended they still wouldn't be very many and therefore not too many to look through. I suppose in this scenario Hermione had an equal chance of noticing Quirrell as Snape.
@@DragonSkyNija he would have gone to snape if he was a slytherin not mcgonagall, I bet snape would have threatened him with expulsion, dragged him into Dumbledores office, and been horribly dissapointed when Dumbledore said "this is a serious offense surely severus, but expulsion for a first year student over discovering a skill he never knew he had and using it to help another student? I think instead we should give harry a warning, 10 points, and isnt Montague holding tryouts for a new seeker next week? Maybe we could overlook the fact that hes a first year and allow him to try out anyway, merlin knows he could help your team, bottom of the standings again last year?"
@@peadrianlastname McGonagall did not only decide how Harry was punished because she was the head of Gryffindor, but also because she happened to witness the incident. As I recall, Snape wasn't there. McGonagall saw his talent and because Gryffindor desperately needed a seeker she decided not to punish him. If Harry was a Slytherin McGonagall would have told him how dangerous it was and then taken points from Slytherin and/or given Harry detention, but would she have informed Snape of the incident?
We would definitely see more of the "good" Slytherin members who aren't the children of death eaters, those who fulfil the cunning and ambitious traits without being raised as pure-blood fanatics. Slytherin makes up a whole quarter of the school, they can't all be dicks, after all we do have kind of a biased viewpoint. There would surely be at least one Slytherin 1st-year who is like-minded enough for Harry to befriend
Yeah! Like Millicent is proof that there's halfblood Slytherins and I really don't think she subscribes to blood purity. I like to think harry is what gives the Slytherins a choice and he would for sure try to convince others to talk out about their disdain to blood purity
@@doctorroofus I mean, Tom Riddle was also a halfblood Slytherin
@@9nikola Add Professor Snape to that list as well.
@@9nikola People thought his mother was a squib in the WW so uh he was almost a muggle-born
@@SlayingSuperNerdX she wasn't a squib. She was treated like on my her father.
I think it would also be important to remember one additional boy who would be in the Slytherin dormitory if Harry was in that house; Theodore Nott. He was a barely mentioned character who is described as being a very clever loner. I could very much see him being friendly as an initial pretense to Harry, and then perhaps being genuinely a friend of him because of Harry in general being a nice person. Not saying he would be as close as someone like Ron, but that could very much be a potential backer of Harry if things soured occasionally with the Slytherins as a whole. His father was also an elderly Death Eater, so who knows what tension that could have created.
Not to mention blaze
We know he calls someone a blood traitor in book 6 but six years before that I wonder what he was like when he first got to school especially because his father's probably dead and therefore probably not a death eater but even if he was his mom's just a gold digging Black widow not anyone with a pure blood agenda he probably got that from his friends in Slytherin
Odd to think of Harry in the Slytherin first year boys dormitory with Nott,Zabini Crabbe, Goyle and Malfoy.
@@kellysouter4381 Quite the charming bunch. The sons of Death Eaters and a notorious black widow.
I could see Nott being similar to Neville. Like not that close to Harry at the beggining but eventually being part of his group of friends
Not to mention Blaise Zabini, who seems to be in a more grey area too. Definitely not always "good" beliefs but he always seemed intelligent and not an extremist.
I like the idea of Dumbledore trying desperately to keep his plan in motion 😂, since, literally, the very first part of his plan, getting Harry into Gryffindor failed. He’s just hoping despite that, his plan still works. 😂
On the contrary, I’d like to imagine that Dumbledore would have a plan for whatever house Harry was sorted into, and that him being a Slytherin wouldn’t launch a backup plan, just an alternate plan.
@@dmidkif makes sense. It could be the case. I just thought Dumbledore panicking because he literally failed his plan right away was funny 😂
Bro, you’ve been reading too many fanfics. The Sorting Hat would refuse to explain itself or listen to any Headmaster. It follows the orders of the Founders alone, and they wished for the Hat to sort students either where they would find like-minded friends or where they would reach their greatest potential.
@@Doomzdeh for the record, I haven’t read any Harry Potter fan fics. This whole dumbledores plan thing was another series made by the Carlin brothers. Idk why your so upset with it. It’s just a fun little concept idea to play around with for more Harry Potter content. Cool off.
@@danielszap6794 since Dumbledore wasn't super into the idea of Harry in Slytherin (according to Dumbledore's Big Plan) I like to think he began stress planing a whole new plan, because "Oh my merlin, Harry Potter might actually become the next Voldi! How the hex am I going to fix this???"
I like the idea of Harry asking for Slytherin specifically so he could be the one to prove that not all Slytherins are bad. Completely disproving a wide misconception about said house. I also would kinda see Hermione as a Ravenclaw and Ron as a Hufflepuff.
Also as a contrast to Peter 😁
I don't see Harry as A Hufflepuff. He doesn't work hard enough
@@ginnyjollykidd I never said anything about Harry being a hufflepuff.
@@LuckyArceus Harry as a Slytherin; Hermione as a Ravenclaw; Ron as a Gryffindor; Neville as a Hufflepuff.
@@zaja2418 I don’t get why Ron would be in griffindor since he’s so cowardly.
Love this!! The only disagreement I have is the death eater support after Harry defeats Voldemort again. I think it strengthens not dissipates. Harry has shown twice now that he's more powerful than Voldemort and death eaters follow power. It's only later they realize that Harry has no interest in their beliefs
True, they would probably hear that he was friends with a muggleborn, but just assume that Malfoy was jealous and trying to make him look bad.
It depends on how well-informed the deatheaters were. If they knew that Harry was friends with a muggleborn and defeated Voldemort because he's on the good side and not because he wanted to take Voldemort's place, then they'd realise that supporting Harry goes against their values
@@melvinberkly1596 Then it would probably mean that Snape would have a more significant role to sway them.
This, I feel the whole "death eaters thinking he's the next Voldemort" thing still has more potential, specially when they find out he speaks parseltongue
@@melvinberkly1596 I don't think they'd be well informed at all, at least not yet. No one would know exactly what happened and Snape would be their main source of information plus it's not like Hermione and Ron would be his only friends and he'd probably make friends in Slytherin as not all Slytherin are terrible.
Alternate theory: After he defeats Voldemort's Horcrux, some Death Eater don't abandon the idea that Harry is the new Dark Lord, instead it reinforces the fact that he is more powerful than Voldemort was.
uuuuuuuu like he's the new and more powerfull dark lord not destroying them but consuming the horcrux
came here to offer this exact theory.
Exactly what I thought
I could see the difference coming to a head at the final battle- when McGonnagal tells the Slytherin’s to go to the dungeon and prevents them from choosing between their parents and the people of Hogwarts, Harry would be included in that group, but realistically she knows he would have to fight and this strategy wouldn’t actually work, so Harry could be the one who tells them to choose instead- and as such, that whole generation would have to pick a side. Dozens of young wizards would have chosen, one way or the other, to fight for light or dark. The fate of the wizarding world is not just in whether Harry of Voldemort win, but in all those who act one way or the other in response to the conflict.
Any Sci Man Dan Fans here?
And then we have the battle of Slytherin common room.
it's definitely more intriguing as we all prefer the gray character but it's also a children's book so clear good-bad divide sells
@@yiocho220 Which I'm surprised didn't happen from the get go, as it makes sense for not every Slytherin to be for the dark. Especially assuming that some HAVE to be muggleborn or half-blood by statistics ALONE. At the VERY least some had to be neutral to the conflict, preferring to either not show up to school or leave, especially those that could aparate.
@@screamingopossum7809 we know half bloods were aloud in Slytherin... Draco probably would have helped potter if not for his father's influence on him so I think there were a few Slytherins behind potter.
I don't know if Harry and Ron would still be friends with Hermione. I kinda feel like they need to be in the same common room, so that Harry can act as a mediator between their egos. Harry is kind of a middle ground between them, and without him, they would have a much harder time connecting. Hermione could still survive the troll alone by being smart and hiding in the right place.
Yeah..........but...the golden trio need to be together.its........i just want them as a trio. So,yeah Hermione should be friends with them. Ron and Hermione might have a lot of fights. By might I mean alot.
Yeah, but this could work if Hermione was Ravenclaw and Neville, Hufflepuff. It would be a lot more like a story about misfits joining forces against a great evil.
tbf in the books its often suggested that ron and hermione enjoy their daily bickerings unlike the serious fights like about crookshanks eating scabbers and harry just doesnt get it
You're very optimistic of Harry's continued Good Heart.
I've always thought that if Harry was in Slytherin he would have ended up at least partially under the influence of a Slytherin family. A smart Slytherin would have seen the boy who lived as an asset and immediately worked to get him indebted, or attached to their friend group. Harry might still have gone down the path of a hero eventually but his early Hogwarts years would probably have been defined by his longstanding desire for friends and how far he was willing to go to keep them.
And dont forget, he has the Dursleys at home. Muggles he absolutely hates. Some older cunning purist could totally make him question his sanity
And maybe he won’t be the hero at all. And who knows, he might actually become the dark wizard everyone in Slytherin believed he would be.
I disagree. One very important fact is this. Harry is a very good kid, brave and with a good heart even despite the treatment by the Dursleys. I think he would be able to shake off any potential influence. I can't see the core of the story changing at all, even with some slight changes to the way that events happen.
Harry actually did a lot of bad things in canon. He lied a lot (even to those who he respect), tricked Slytherin’s seeker in 6th book to win the game, used fake fame as a great potion maker, tested unknown spells on everyone (including sleeping Ron), used cruciatus on Carrow for no particular reason, used imperious without any second-thoughts... there are lots of examples. And he was always happy to see how those who he hate suffer: Duddley with tail in first book, Malfoy-ferret in GoF. It was too harsh and cruel treatment even towards those two gits, but Harry thought otherwise.
@@НикаК-ъ4ф Yeah, everyone likes to pretend Harry was such an innocent. He's got grey morals at best throughout the series. It's just the hero complex that he ends up developing makes him out to be this wholesome character.
Wow, in COS, with Harry's ability to speak Parcletoung, and being sorted into Slytherin, not only will he worry more about being the heir, but the other students will be even more convinced.
I want to see a ✨multiverse✨ where Harry is only sorted into Slytherin (hermione in ravenclaw/ron in hufflepuff) iff Neville was the chosen one/boy who lived, alone in Gryffindor and has to unite all 4 Hogwarts Houses (wizarding world symbolically) to defeat Voldemort 🪄
Love this ❤
I got major multiverse vibes from this. I agree
and also the version of Harry from Methods of Rationality (Amazing fanfic, must read)
someone write this omg
@@mypradasatthecleaners yes, please
In a few fanfics Ginny get's sorted in Slytherin. And I can see with how she would fit there. What if she only got into Gryffindor because she also asked the Hat to place her in the house where her crush was sorted. And is Harry being in Slytherin enough reason for Ginny to also go there?
Don't expect it to happen in this AU you are telling us but it is an interesting thought. Also I would love to see Harry having a Slytherin friend.
I came to say the same. She fits really well in Sly so what if she decides to follow Harry and gets sorted there?
That is a great theory, that could make a lot of sense, we just have to wonder what Ginny's psychology, would she put her crush over her family?
Nah,
The Hat admits that it considers many different factors when sorting people into the houses. Ginny is a Weasley, so she is already a shoe-in with Gryffindor, especially since she isn’t noticeably much different from her known relatives or rebellious at all against her family.
Add that to her penchant for being brave, daring, and fierce, and you practically have a guaranteed Gryffindor.
Not to mention the Weasley Clan’s bias against Slytherins (and many Gryffindor Families’ bias against Slytherins). Ginny wouldn’t want to face possible isolation from her family just for Harry, especially since Harry wouldn’t be Ron’s best friend in this AU.
I appreciate your idea, but I don’t think it could ever realistically happen.
I don't know if just wanting to be with her crush would be reason enough to ask the Hat, but maybe she wouldn't even have to ask and the Hat itself would be more confortable putting her in Sly since a year prior it already placed the son of two Gryffindors there...
I would honestly be most interested in Dumbledore’s and Hagrid’s immediate reactions to Harry being sorted into Slytherin
“Lucius can see past the short term” except that time he tried to Avada a student in front of dumbledores office over a house elf 😂
He's just mad that he'll have nobody to brush the ✨luscious locks of lucius ✨ ---
@@sparkdaudios 😂😂😂
Fun fact, in the movie he forgot his line for what spell he was supposed to use and the only one he could remember was avada. The director liked it so much that he left it in
This is definitely a plausible scenario, but I don't think it can be totally discounted that Harry would have actually been shunned by Ron and befriended Draco. It would be much easier for him to just try and fit in with those around him rather than trying to maintain a friendship with someone who will already see him as something less due to what house he was placed in (Ron's distaste for Slytherin being clear and given that they really just met).
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I do think he may be friends with Ron because of hermione he would just not be as close. But I think in year two Ginny would join Harry in sytherin. And they would be a couple sooner since they will both be outcasts. Ginny outcasted by her brothers. And Harry outcasted by slytherin house.
I can see Ron distancing himself from Harry just for being a Slytherin, initially or altogether, but I can't see Harry ever becoming friends with Draco. Their personalities just don't mix, plus Draco would've been infuriated by all the attention of his house mates being diverted from him to Harry.
@@limiv5272 Draco was putting up a façade since day one. We see it break apart in the 6th book when he's forced to do things he simply doesn't have the courage to do. He's scared and was groomed into his position by the Death Eaters around him. If he had someone to break apart those walls and be a support system for him that wasn't JUST his mother, he would have turned out completely different, as school would have been a safe place for him. As it stands in canon, nowhere is safe for him. He has to play the predator or risk being devoured himself.
@@screamingopossum7809 I agree with your assessment of Draco's character and circumstances, but I still don't see Harry becoming friends with him
Imagine if they knew it was Wormtail, a Gryffindor, that betrayed Harry's parents. How would Hagrid have explained that? "But he's the exception, not the rule!"
I mean, Sirius Black was a Gryffindor....
@@FantabulousFail came to say the same. Sirius was arguably James’ best friend in the world, he was James’ best man and everything. And he was a Gryffindor, even though he came from a deeply Slytherin family. And wasn’t that how they explained Sirius anyway, that he was the exception and not the rule?
@@FantabulousFail Yeaaah.
Only hulffel puff is purely good
@@amberbanuelos7053 it's almost like JK hadn't thought that far ahead or something, because that definitely should have come up. "There's not a witch or wizard who's gone bad that wasn't in Slytherin...except for the one who was responsible for getting your parents killed, but let's not focus on that"
I think that they never would go through the trap door because Harry would never have the "duel" with Malfoy when he could just look at Malfoys bed and see that he was still there and no duel would be happening so they wouldn't find the trapdoor or fluffy.
This is a good point. The duel is really critical to the plot of book 1. Without it they don't discover the trapdoor. Without that they may have never learned about the stone because they would have never asked Hagrid about Fluffy and never heard him talk about Nicholas Flammel.
If they did go into the dark forest then Firenze may have still asked him if he knows what's hidden in the school, and when in this case Harry says no, Firenze may explain to him. But even so, they'd still have no clue about the trapdoor, or about Fluffy. One of the reasons they suspect Snape is because Harry sees the cut on his leg and associated it with Fluffy, but without knowledge of Fluffy who knows how that'd play out.
You do have to remember that this video played off of the movie. In the movie, they found fluffy because they got lost and were hiding from Filch
Malfoy could have left either way just to get Harry into trouble.
@@Lillith. yes this could be the case
@@Lillith. But if they were in the same house Harry would be smart enough to figure out something was wrong if Malfoy suggested to meet in the trophy room and not in the common room which would be much easier for students of the same house.
Great video but I feel like the relationship between the BFFs is kinda forced, I think this scenario was a great gate to explore more of Slytherin good/gray points by having harry interact with people there. One good thing about slytherin is that people there tend to be cunning/intelligent which means they tend to like to think and judge for themselves, I doubt that harry would struggle that much to find one or two friends there.
I wish he had been sorted into Slytherin, then he would've been more of an interesting character. I think Harry was always seen as the gold boy in Gryffindor, the special one, the right one. But I can't help but feel like the writer and screenwriters used his status as the boy who lived as an excuse to make him special in everything for no reason. Why "only a really powerful wizard could've cast that spell" ..but why? harry doesn't even use a variety of spells. We spent the whole series watching him perform expelliarmus and not actually trying that hard to improve himself. The chosen one thing would still make sense. I feel like the only thing that makes him powerful is plot armour. Can Hermione be annoyingly smart sometimes? Yes...but she actually does the work. I feel like only life is happening around him instead of Harry happening in life. Don't know... It's how i feel.
I feel like that too lol
Harry wasn’t entirely useless though, he could cast a patronus
Hard agree. It would be better if all the 3 main characters are in different houses and the plot revolves around them uniting all the houses
Totally agree with you. He peaked on 3rd year learning a patron's and then never bothered to do anything else. Hermione carried the trio the whole way through
thats probably due to skimming over some parts/not reading in a while. Harry actually does quite a bit of magic and is normally only second to hermione in his classes hence why he does so well on the newts and owls and qualifies to be an auror
Each of the Golden Trio represents another house aside from Gryffindor. Harry shows cunning and ambition at times, like a Slytherin, Ron has loyalty to his friends, befitting a Hufflepuff, and Hermione embodies the book smarts and intelligence of a Ravenclaw.
But Ron does have several times where he isn't friends with both Harry and Hermione and though he always comes back, I feel that he isn't Hufflepuff material at least for the Loyalty part
He does this because he feel his loyalty is betrayed and that people don’t have the same loyalty to him as he does them
@@Andi_Imke I disagree. Friends argue. If you haven't argued with your friend then that wasn't your friend lol
I always thought this works best if you include neville, he is the hufflepuff and ron is the perfect gryffindor
@@nelly8944 this directly correlates to the marauders too I think
I love the idea of “What If” videos. A lot can change from little decisions (at least if you’re a protagonist)
I also love these long series, big picture series
I don't think Hermione would become part of the trio yet. I think she'd befriend Harry, but I don't think she'd become friends with Ron yet if the troll thing didn't happen. I don't think the three would have hung out together a lot yet.
Exactly. The only reason Hermione hung out around Ron was because he saved her life during the troll incident. If that didn't happen, then I feel like she'd have no reason to hang around him as Ron WAS Hermione's bully during the first book. He made fun of her A LOT. I feel like she would have distanced herself from Ron, but wouldn't have distanced herself from Harry. Harry didn't DO MUCH in regards to bullying her.
I feel like Snape would be weary of what Harry being a Slytherin meant, but would also quickly warm up to him, being able to see in Harry a bit of himself when he was at school
I don’t understand you. Lots of you seem to think that Snape is a way nicer guy than he ever was.
Snape hated Harry from the very beginning, before he knew anything about him and despite knowing how Petunia had likely treated Harry his whole life.
And Snape bullied him. And he bullied Neville Longbottom too. And he bullied multiple others for no reason other than to release his negativity on defenseless targets.
Snape was tasked with teaching Harry Occlumency, which was a critical part of defeating Voldemort. Even then, Snape can’t let his hatred go and work for the greater good.
Snape was a vindictive, hateful, and bitter man who would never have allowed himself to see the good in Harry.
Also that Harry was the son of Lily would be important to him. Basically Snape was conflicted about Harry.
@@Doomzdeh That's true of the main story. But there, Snape's vindictiveness towards Harry was compounded and intensified by his vindictiveness towards Gryffindor House (after all, the Marauders were all Gryffindors...). Here, he'd have Potter in his own House, and I agree with the analysis here that he'd be obligated to at least show outward respect, however grudging, towards Harry, even if he still felt like lashing out at him. He'd still treat the Gryffindors as badly as before, I see no reason for that to change.
I hope in the next part, you could give Harry Slytherin friends. Like Daphne, Theodore Nott and Astoria Greengrass
Love this but I think harry would protect Neville during the flying lesson because draco reminds him of dudly and he hates bullies and he can protect someone unlike how no one protected him.
I'm wondering how much of Slytherin house actually supported Voldemort in the first place. The anti-Voldemort (or at least not pro-Voldemort) students, and the ones who just really dislike Draco, might still be friendly towards Harry
Although, the "Harry is the next Dark Lord" crowd might actually be emboldened - after all, by the end of Stone, this would be the _second_ time Harry's beaten the Most Evil Dark Wizard Ever(TM)
I'm wondering if Harry being in Slytherin actually makes Voldemort's return to full power less likely compared to the books
By simple Magical Demographics at least half of people in Slytherin have to be Half-Bloods. There are not enough Pureblood to go around period. Several of them don't even end up in Slytherin, so.....
@@ravenstrategist1325 have you looked at Wizarding World family trees? There are more second cousin marriages than in Alabama!
Slytherin already had a seeker during Harry's first year, the position didn't open up until the next year where he would be in competition with Malfoy for the post. Meanwhile Gryfindor still needs a new seeker that first year so who would that be? The only other person who ever shows any interest in that position is Ginny and she's not at school yet. x
Also, I think Harry wouldn't play Quidditch at all, because the day of the broom class, even if Mcgonagall see him as a talented seeker she wouldn't call him to play nor tell Snape about it, and this will change a lot of things after that.
@@Oratnik88 exactly my thought
@@Oratnik88 All the Slytherins were there during that first flying lesson, they could've told Snape what had happened. As for the position of Seeker being filled, we don't actually know much from the books. It's possible Slytherin didn't have a seeker at the beginning of Harry's first year and held tryouts, selected a 7th year, and then the next year had to find a new Seeker when that student left which allowed Malfoy to get on the team.
@@Oratnik88 actually there is a case that McGonagall would tell Snape but another where she punishes Harry because if there is one way to describe MG its TOUGH but FAIR. Also is it just me it is it weird that Dumbledore was informed of a troll in the DUNGENS and send slytherens to their common room, IN THE DUNGENS.
@@Oratnik88 True but the Slytherins would tell Snape for they saw him to, and Mcgonagal would also tell Snape so he could punish Harry
11:50 What's impressive is that even if Snape treated Harry WAY BETTER, it would still be far from treating him well.
Yeah, no kidding- I had the same thought. Not many here in the comments have brought up the real reason Snape hated Harry- because Snape was in love with Lily, and Actively chose James over him. I believe he hated Harry for that fact first & foremost.
@@memyselfi2005 Every time he looked at Harry, he saw the eyes of the only woman he ever loved, on the face of one of his worst enemies. He also treats Neville so badly because V-mort chose Harry, instead of Neville.
Not really
I would love to see more of these 'what if' style episodes! like is Hermione was in Ravenclaw, she might not even end up being friends with Harry and Ron, or if Harry wasn't sent to the Dursleys but instead adopted by the Weasleys, Harry probably wouldn't end up with ginny, seeing as they would grow up as brother and sister.
sweet home alabama
they wouldnt grow up as brother and sister though, living in the same house doesnt make you related
@@evoke97 he meant that they would be more like brother and sister
So incredibly excited for this series!!! I agree that a lot would stay the same despite Harry being in Slytherin. Also, since Narcissa allies with Harry at the very end in canon, I'd love to hear your thoughts someday on how she might do so earlier in this scenario-and what the results of that might look like.
This is a scam. Do not contact him.
I like to think that if Harry was in Slytherin, Snape would genuinely learn to like Harry.
This is a scam, do not contact him.
The Slytherins might rally around Harry after he beats Voldemort. Seeing it as Harry removing his rival for power.
So excited for you to cover the rest of the books with this theory! I think that Snape would still hate Harry regardless of which house he's in, but I could maybe see him being slightly more lenient with Harry in Slytherin. Or at least initially pretending not to hate Harry for the sake of appearances among the former Death Eaters. However, I'm not sure I buy Harry still ending up on the Quidditch team in his first year. Only the students and Mcgonagall saw his impressive first flight, not Snape. And given Snape's hatred of James Potter (a star Quidditch player) I just can't see him giving such preferential treatment to Harry the way Mcgonagall did.
Same!
i feel like after a bit snape would be able to warm up to him more because he’d be forced to see harry more as his own person rather than james potter’s kid (also harry’s so much like lily so there’s that)
agreed
But,as J said,Harry scoring points for Slytherin is a slap in the face to James Potter
@@shriya9925 Fat chance of that happening. Harry is bullied by Snape right away in the books, and Snape never gave him a real chance.
I can imagine that Snape would only be more lenient with Harry because he doesn’t want to dock points off of his own house.
Anyone else re-watching and realize how good the mustache looks on J? 🥸
Ooh this is gonna be a cool series. A few minor predictions for each year
2: polyjuice potion won't even come up.
3: after seeing a dark wizard who was a gryffindor Harry feels a little more comfortable about being a slytherin.
4: slytherin backs harry instead of Cedric, pushing slytherin and hufflepuff even further apart.
5: a few slytherins might actually sympathize with Harry and join Dumbledore's army
6: Harry and malfoys fight might happen sooner and in a different location.
7: honestly got nothing Harry isn't even in the school for most of this one
Honestly 4 and above might not even happen as after killing Voldermort twice more (book 1&2), Voldermort would be well on his way to being relegated the next Grindewald.
I think the story would dramatically change if Harry was sorted into Slytherin. Malfoy for one would ditch Crabbe and Goyle, as who wouldn't want to be besties with the boy who lived. Snape on the other hand could be tricky, maybe he would learn to see less of James, and more of Lily.
The issue is.. Draco is a jerk to Harry before the sorting either way soo I think they always end up enemies
I do think Harry was in good terms with him, when they met at Madam Malkin's robes, it all changed when he met Ron. If he hadn't met Ron, things would have been different.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers I don’t think Draco and Harry would be friends either way, but Draco would be more willing to put their differences aside if they had to fight some bigger evil.
Draco's first comments, even before he insulted the person who was currently in the process of introducing Harry to the Wizarding World, already had Harry mentally comparing him to Dudley. That's definitely not on good terms by any means
If given the fact he had recognized Harry's true identity at when he first met, he would have definitely changed his tune.
I think that while Harry, Ron and Hermione would still be good friends, it would be Harry and Hermione who are closest, rather than Harry and Ron. They were both outsiders in their house, and I could see Harry being more studious (I feel like Ron is one of the reasons he isn't in the books) and Harry and Hermione hanging out in the library. Plus while I think that Ron would get over Harry being in Slytherin, he would distance himself a bit at first, and be more wary, whereas Hermione probably wouldn't. And I think that Ron's brothers (especially Fred and George) would joke about Ron being friends with a Slytherin, which also wouldn't help Ron's insecurities.
Although thinking about that, I wonder if Snape would see himself and Lily in Harry and Hermione. A half-blood Slythering friends with a muggleborn Gryffindor
@@RL-rw9dy I think you're right on all accounts here. Good eye for the Snape and Lily parallel!
@@alexcole8768 That is what I think would happen to Harry's story a lot as well with many parallels to Snape and Lilly, which ironically probably tugs on the memories of Snape enough that he ends up helping Harry chose the opposite choice he did that more less ruined his life.
I think Harry and Draco's relationship would have been completely different over time. And Harry would eventually have befriended Draco as he came to realise just how difficult things were for Draco in the half blood Prince. Harry would definitely have made friends with some Slytherin's who are good and kind, he would have still made friends with Luna and gotten a date easier with Cho but I also think he would have noticed Ginny much earlier on.
I'm glad Harry did not go in Slytherin purely because he would have remained isolated and found it difficult to come to terms with who he is. But I do think JK should have introduced more Slytherin's who challenged Harry's perception of them as being all cruel and selfish.
I agree, I always thought the
gryfindor =good slitherin = bad could have been done with more nuance. Then again, easy for me to say as I didn’t write the novels, but it would have made things more interesting.
Really the Sorting Hat was saying that Harry would have done well anywhere. It was Harry himself who caused it to specifically focus on his aversion to being in Slytherin.
You know the sorting hat wanting to put Harry into Slytherin makes sense. I mean when he was first sorted no one knew he was Volde's Horcrux. I mean if Tom was Slytherin's heir and was a Slytherin himself then the hat can probably sense that piece of soul and want to put him in slytherin because of it.
Wait, wouldn't the fact that Harry defeated Voldemort again make the Death Eaters that thought he was better than Voldemort support him more?
This sounds like a much more dynamic and nuanced story! I love it! I do think what she did was good at the time necause it appealed to a younger audience and was easier for us to understand. I know that I was annoyed with how cranky Harry was in book 5, can't imagine I would have liked the books if he was like that the whole series. I would enjoy that story more now as an adult though, but the reason Harry Potter was so successful was because it appealed to children.
I’m very excited for this series! But I think there’s a possibility that Harry would not have been a seeker on the Slytherin team. The only reason he was recruited so young on the Gryffindor team was bc of Charlie Weasley’s graduating and leaving that position empty. So I don’t know how he and Hermione would have had the opportunity to be friends. And they wouldn’t have been looking to Snape bc their dynamic may have been completely different as you guys said.
If Harry was sorted into Slytherin, I think Dumbledore and Hagrid would have been more reserved with him. Hagrid may never have gotten close enough to him to end up discussing Fluffy and outlining the stone's protections - but Snape might have filled that role. Dumbledore would probably not have prepared the encounter with the Mirror of Erised, which would have stymied Harry at the end.
I love this concept and I'm waiting eagerly on how you spin the story going forward, but I have to disagree on Harry becoming a seeker in his first year. In the OG, Harry was chosen as a seeker by McG, because she wanted to see her team win and therefore ignored the rules for that instance. (As a reminder: no flying without supervision, no first years on quidditch teams and no brooms for first years.) Also Gryffindor was in need of a seeker, so this was a no-brainer.
If Harry was in Slytherin though, McG would take him to Snape and demand a punishment for his misbehaviour. I don't think Snape would have enough affection towards Harry to disregard Minerva and reward him for the same behaviour that he hated James for. And even if he did, making Harry a seeker wouldn't be on his mind, since the Slytherin team already had one.
But that would also mean that Harry stepping up for Neville is even more impactful, because in this instance he wasn't rewarded for it. The gryffindors would know that he protected one of them for totally altruistic reasons.
All very good points, I was watching this thinking, yes this could have all carried out the same way more or less as he’s saying, only thing that bugged me was that all of these theories are almost being presented to the audience as an absolute truth, when of course any of us can have this same proposition and weave it into the same timeline to suite our narratives of what would and wouldn’t have been different.
Id really like an official AU series based on this concept. Theres a lot of interesting potential here.
If Harry got sorted into Slytherin, then I think Draco would still try to be friends with him, since I think the only major reason Draco stops is because Harry gets sorted into Gryffindor, and the two may start to debate things(what about I have no idea) in the common room.
I'd say that the defining feature for Harry ending up in Slytherin would be the Dursleys being how they are. Imagine a conversation in Madam Malkin's where Harry is a little more open and talkative and mentions to Malfoy that he doesn't know anything about Hogwarts. Malfoy would naturally ask if he is Muggleborn to which Harry would respond that his parents were a witch and a wizard. Harry would then tell Malfoy that he was raised by muggles though and when asked about the experience Harry would find immediately common ground with Malfoy on the topic. The conversation would then continue in a much friendly manor leading up to Harry's name reveal after which the conversation would continue even more friendlier. Malfoy would without a doubt ask Harry to join him and his friends for the trainride and maybe even stay at the Malfoys for the reminder of time. After that it would be a done deal.
A point that was overlooked though is McGonagall tells Harry that not all rule breaking will result in reward and she doesn't punish him because Gryffindor needed a seeker. So i honestly don't think Harry joins the slytherin team at least at this moment
Really cool theory! In my opinion, Hary would still have some support from the Death Eaters after redefeating Voldemort, since they may just see it as Harry finishing the job and getting rid of the competition so he can stand as the sole Dark Wizard. Obviously this is not the case, but it would mean Lucius still has some hope for him come Year 2
True by the end of Chamber of secrets , Harry has faced and defeated the dark lord thrice. So many of Voldemort’s followers would definitely gather under Harry if he was in slytherin
I imagine he'd use the invisibility cloak to hang out in the gryffindoor common room with ron and hermione
There are already quite a few scenarios written in the form of fan fiction where Harry gets sorted into Slytherin. My personal favorite is "With Strength of Steel Wings" by AngelaStarCat.
What is that on? AO3?
Maybe FF (fanfictiondotnet) ?
@@severusskywalker888 Its on FF
Thank youuu, will check it out ✨
Thank you, was just thinking I'd like to read some Slytherin Harry fics
I am pretty curious as to how this would turn out. Given the bad blood between Gryffindor and Slytherin, I see it as quite a bit more unlikely that Harry would be friends with Ron or Hermoine, or even, with the troll incident not happening at all, that Ron and Hermoine would never have been friends, let alone eventually husband and wife, as Harry and Ron pretty much loathed her as an insufferable know-it-all before that point. I can't see Harry getting past the stuff that guards that Stone without the help of Ron and Hermoine. I'm wondering if Harry would have risked his life to save Ginny by going into the Chamber to save her in the second book (it was his best friend's sister there). In the third book, I don't see how Harry could have saved Sirius without the Time Turner, which he wouldn't have if he'd never been friends with Hermoine. With Sirius being Kissed in the third book, the Death Eaters would need another bait to lure Harry into the Hall of Prophecy. While it's possible he may have befriended Luna Lovegood and taken him with her, I don't think Harry and Luna would have fared that well against the Death Eaters without Hermoine, Ron, Ginny, and Neville coming along. And, most of all, Harry would be absolute TOAST without Ron and Hermoine in Deathly Hallows.
On the flip side, if Harry had been in Slytherin, Severus Snape may have realized that Harry was NOT his father and actually befriended him, though this in itself could be risky, as if he was too friendly with Harry, the Horcrux connection with Harry's scar could lead Voldermort to realizing Snape was a double-agent AGAINST him. Still, the idea of Harry being friends with Snape could be useful, given all of the stuff he knew in both potions and curses and all. In that regard, Harry might have more prepared as a duelist against Voldermort and his minions than he was in the actual timeline.
Also, if Harry had encountered Draco in that scene in the bathroom in book six, perhaps Harry could have gotten the truth out of him as a fellow Slytherin and even offered to help (though, admittedly, that might have made it harder for Snape to kill Dumbledore, as one of the reasons he did it was to stop Draco from doing it under pressure and splitting his soul.)
Also, if Harry had befriended Ron anyway, he WOULD have been expelled in the second book if he'd taken the car and everything still. Snape said that had they been in Slytherin, they'd both be on the train home tonight. However, McGonnagal only gave them detention and said if they acted out against they'd be expelled.
Seeing as how the last time you guys made a series like this was 2 years ago, about Dumbledore. Maybe two years from now, you could make a series where Draco is sorted into gryffindor. After all Snape was in slytherin, but at one point Dumbledore points out Snape's bravery and how he thinks they sort too early.
I can see the relationship between slytherin harry and the malfoy's being very similar to peter parker and Norman Osborn "why son, why can't you be more like your friend" which drives draco deeper and deeper into darkness
There’s no canonical evidence that says Harry definitely would’ve been sorted to Slytherin had he not requested otherwise, the hat simply says he could do great things there. For all we know the hat could’ve still decided to place him in Gryffindor without the aid of Harry’s request
Exactly. I always felt that the hat was testing Harry. If he was a true Slytherin, the promise of the great things he could do in Slytherin would tempt him. His ambition would be his strongest trait and the hat would see he belonged in Slytherin. But he wasn't tempted, so the hat saw that he was not driven by ambition and would be a better fit for Gryffindor.
I do think Harry would have said yes to the hats offer of power
True, but it's still fun to consider what would've happened if Harry had been a Slytherin
didnt the hat say to him in 2nd year that he would've done well in slytherin? Meaning it would've been better option?
@@Kirisame__Marisa Wasn't that only in the movies, though? Anyway, 'done well' isn't the same as saying it was the very best choice of house for Harry
An interesting concept that I have always hoped would be covered by this wonderful channel!
I'm excited to see more.
P.S. Would anyone else find it funny if J were to wear the same shirt for every episode of this series?
I'd love a Voldemort origin story that follows his Hogwarts years.
Or a young Grindelwald at Durmstrang series.
Agreed. There is so much potential in the Harry Potter franchise for series and movies, its amazing.
i’d kill to see draco’s hissy fit towards his father after he bought harry a broom😂😂
Anybody else notice the brilliant transition from Remembrall to "remember all" at 14:51?
I’ve got a HP theory question. What would actually happen if harry had received the dementors kiss in year 3, given that he has two souls at the time.
When it comes to the points though, harry, hermione, Neville, and Draco each lose 50 from Norbert. That's 150 from G and 50 from S. You can balance the rewards at the end, but G would have 50 extra points and S 50 fewer, so things change drastically
Yes, the -50 from Harry swings toward Gryffindor's advantage there, but the +60 swings stronger toward Slytherin at the end. Regardless of which house he is in, Harry is worth +10 points when considering those two events, so the house he is in gets that advantage over the other house.
In fact, using the 472 to 312 numbers, but adjusting for Harry's -50 swing, Slytherin would still have the lead over Gryffindor at 422 to 362 before adding Harry's extra 60 points (so even Hermoine's, Ron's, and Neville's combined 110 additional points aren't enough to overcome that lead, with the final total being 482 Slytherin to 472 Gryffindor, and you can see the 10-point advantage I mentioned earlier).
Gryffindor would also not have gotten the house points for winning against Slytherin.
@@SgtSupaman Also part of the Gryffindor points come from Slytherin matches that are won by Slytherin in this case
@@Lillith. this
And Griffindore losses to Slytherin which changes the points, and Harry still won 60 at the end which is more then what he lost, + who knows whether he ever goes to the forest, I mean there is simply no reason to make Draco still find out about it, instead you could simply skip the entire expirence for it doesn't change anything in the end
How would he get in the Slytherin Quidditch Team in his first year? The Slytherin Quidditch Team was not in need of a Seeker that year, was it? It was the Gryffindor Team that needed one…
Questions:
Would Neville not end up closer to Harry, feeling grateful for Harry getting his Rememberall? (He is also often an odd one out)
The Slytherin Common Room is in the dungeon - where the troll was believed to be, would the Slytherins still have been sent to their common rooms (why were they sent to their common room?)
Do you really think that no one would have told Harry his parents were in Griffindor till Hagrid does at the end of the year? (At one point I think Hermione originally shows him the trophy cabinet showing his father was on the Griffindor team? would none of the bullies have tried to hold it against him?)
Would no-one in Slytherin have made friends with him prior to Draco causing issues, there are a few quieter Slytherins who may have got on with him? Would none of them thought it showed cunning and forethought to befriend someone who is likely powerful
Harry will always view bullies with anathema verging on loathing. Being in Slytherin; meeting Ron; meeting Draco; that pales compared to growing up with Dudley.
I've long thought that The Sorting Hat's criteria could be boiled down to "What can this student teach, or best exemplify," and "What does this student need to learn, or need good examples of?"
Harry taught Dudley how to be less of a bully. He might have even taught Draco the same thing.
Thinking about it, maybe the Hat has another criterion: What does each house lack?
I've read a couple of fanfiction following this premise, and they're so cool! It's now one of my favorite tags for HP fics :3
Although, the stories weren't shy of canon divergence, because they're 11 years at the beginning, highly maleable minds, and different choices make different outcomes that will shape 7 years of Hogwarts studies + the eventual war
Can you recommend any??
@@atanaZion For only HP I got;
*Harry Potter and the Slytherin Ideal* by PreciousLadyAthena. Teen and Undiences Up, No Archive Warnings Apply, Gen.
Premise; Hagrid was sick so it was Snape who picked him up. Now there's two excitable 11 yr olds trying to make Slytherin a good place :D
This one wasn't for everyone because for starters, Harry and Draco act and think like children, Harry's given more internalized bad habits and expectations for people to mistreat him so he tries to please everyone.
*Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Butterfly* by LitGal. Not Rated, No Archive Warnings Apply.
Premise; What if Draco was nice when he met Harry at Diagon Alley?
It's been a while since I checked it, but it was also about Harry being friends with Draco and becoming a good influence in his house.
CROSSOVER HP-AOT
Attack on Titan Spoilers/AU
*War Pigs* by qrtxc_lucian. Teen and Audiences Up, Graphic Depictions of Violence, Gen.
Premise; Eren Jeager dies at the end of his anime and his soul gets stuck in a dead baby ei. the original Harry Potter. He still has his memories but now needs to adapt to the "modern" british life. He discovers that "-Harry- you're a wizard!" and now he has to deal with that too.
I was intrigued on the premise of Eren Potter, and it caught me almost immediately. Sweet sweet PTSD and somewhat concealed violent tendencies, it's been on hiatus because of college and will go back in December.
@@amjthe_paleosquare9399 Tyyy
I usually can't get behind fan-theories this deep... but it's you guys; you have a solid grasp of the events of the books and you know the characters enough that it all sounds truly plausible. Well done! I hope to see more soon!
I am a very big Slytherin Harry enthusiast, I think that there’s a huge amount of potential for so many stories and plots to be written from this premise, and it opens the door to explorations into Wizard Culture, potentially converting baby Slytherins to the good side, being either a pariah or popular in Slytherin depending on if people think him defeating Voldy is a good or bad thing and if his clout is worth leeching onto, and more.
Really, some of the best Harry Potter fanfics I’ve read (like Evitative by Vichan on ao3) were Slytherin!Harry fics, and I love it so much!
something that has always fascinated me is just how much was set up in the Chamber of Secrets that had pay-offs in the later books
house-elves, the borrow, Mundungus Fletcher, Cornelius Fudge, Lucius Malfoy, the Whomping Willow, Fawkes, polyjuice potion, squibs, Expelliarmus, Floo power, almost every harry looks at in Borgin and Burkes (which include Draco Malfoy's hand-of-glory, the necklace that curses Katie Bell in book 6, and The Vanishing cabinet) the four founders, the Headmaster's office, Azkaban, The sword of Gryffindor, and freakin Horcruxes, And that just off the top of my head without rereading the book im sure there is more that i didnt catch or think of
"There's not a witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in Slytherin" *cough* Grindelwald *cough*
I would say theres always the chance that Harrys defeat of voldemort would make wizards rally around him, due to him then maybe being seen as the great new dark wizard
I’ve been waiting for this theory for so long and y’all beat every other channel to it! Awesome video!!
Nah. Since Malfoy got sorted into Slytherin before Harry was sorted, he would have known that whatever house Malfoy got into was one he didn't want to be in. As he watched Malfoy get sorted into Slytherin, he would have definite knowledge of where he did not want to be and he would STILL ask the hat "not Slytherin".
Interesting theory though.
Not sure he would still be in quidditch
- Professor McGonagall is personally invested in quidditch herself and with Slytherin holding on to the cup I don't know for certain that she would be happy to make it worse.
- professor McGonagall is not Harry's head of house, Snape is, and I think that means it would be Snapes decision instead.
- *Oliver wood* (Gryffindor's quidditch captain) was in need of a seeker so Harry's impressive performance was at the perfect time, we (at least I) don't know if Slytherin were also in a need for a seeker (or if they'd be happy to have him given how they feel about him (discussed in the video))
What if Snape starts projecting himself onto Harry? With Harry having best friends in Gryffindor who get together, plus his later issues with Ron, it’s not that hard to imagine.
Great video, as always. I am not, however, convinced, that Harry woul be so drawn to the good side. The fact, that the death-eaters expected him to be a new dark lord does not mean he must support Voldemort. Afterall, for all they know he killed him so that he could REPLACE him, not join him. So in my vie, Harry could be coaxed to the dark side by the slitherins. They would tell him, that he is destined to become the new big dark thing. He would still defeat Voldemort at year-end, but this time he would do it as plain revenge and also for his own glory. At this point the death-eaters would love him! He would have shown for the seccond time, that he is more powerfull than Voldy and he would be on his way to take over himself...
You're forgetting a key part of his personality
That kid is a factory for humble pie
He's already famous and popular and told he's being destined for great things in the series and he doesn't really like it much and kind of wishes it would stop and doesn't really want the attention I don't think that would change just because he was in a different house his personality would still be the same
He still has dumpledoir’s voice inside his head. So he wouldn’t listen. He is a good person deep down until you reach he who mustn’t be named
Harry is still the same person in this scenario and while I'm sure being sorted into Slytherin would have a huge impact on his life I don't see him ever wanting to harm people on purpose
@@ked49 he wouldn't have had a one-on-one conversation with Dumbledore until Christmas
@@lahlybird895 But the Death Eaters wouldn't know why he did so even though he did for revenge or to prevent him from being a threat would they know that, they are not in his head
Really intrigued how you think he'd defeat the basilisk without the sword... Can't wait for part 2! ❤️
He would get the sword or he would have stopped Ginny sooner since she would be in slytherin also in this what if. She chose griffin because Harry and would have been sent to slytherin because the book.
And Harry would date Ginny a lot sooner if they are both in slytherin
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14:50 following up rememberall with "Remember, all..." such satisfying wordplay 😆
14:52-14:54 “Because of the rememberal, remember ALL the Slytherins…” nice n’ sneaky pun there J :)
I don’t think he’d be an outcast, Slytherins will do anything to get ahead, and have as many connections as possible. Harry is a celebrity, so yeah that probably wouldn’t happen. Also there are Slytherins that have turned out alright, Scrimgeour for example. Also Andromeda Tonks as well as Arthur Weasley’s mother both of who are from the black Family and not Sirius would have been in Slytherin. I’ve also for a while now suspected that Moody may have been in Slytherin. I think a fair few may fallow him.
I would disagree with your observation. I would think either Malfoy would have apologized after the sorting or Harry would have helped hide the rememberball. Malfoy would have taken Ron's place in the story essentially. If Harry defeated Quirrel/Voldemort he would have used it to build his ego up.
Wonder how many years back you'd have to go for a first year slytherin seeker never know might be mundane in a different house, also I wonder if Harry would take on the more combative style of slytherin players, knowing no different he may have perceived that, as the way you normally play.
No, I think when they say he's the youngest in a century that means the youngest in the entire school in a century, I don't think it would be nearly as special as they make it out to be if it regularly happened, just not in Gryffindor. Also remember that first years aren't allowed their own brooms at school, Dumbledore tweaks the rules for Harry's/Gryffindor's sake, so any first year wanting to apply would have to do so with a sub-par school broom.
@@Blixthand that's probably true, although with the theory the last one was Dumbeldore it would be pretty odd that both were in gryffindor the sorting hat is doing some shenanigans there and I can imagine a Malfoy bringing there own broom even if disallowed, probably a past diggory, weasley or Bagman as they were comfortable rule breakers, in both generations for the weasleys
I'm still not sure how he gets on the team to be honest since that whole scene in the book was pretty Gryffindor focused I don't exactly see McGonagall rooting for another house to get a good seeker and Snape wasn't there for that whole thing
But if he did end up on the team yeah probably he would pick up the southern style because of his captain although I'm sure at some point his friend Ron who's also into quidditch would probably tell him that's not how you play and Hermione might also still give him the book on the sport where he can read up on all the fouls and stuff
I like how this fan theory so closely mirrors the actual story. It reminds me of Dumbledore's quote: "It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities"
3:49 which is odd because that actually isn't in the movie and it makes the movie super odd. He only chose not to be in slytherin because of that.. but in the movie he didn't know about the houses till he arrived. The movies always miss the most important things.
I love this video! I actually think that if Harry hadn't thought "Not Slytherin," the sorting hat wouldn't have mentioned it at all. To me it felt more like the sorting hat responding to Harry's concern, not that it was what the hat was going to do.
I like this take, I kind of thought about it that way my first time reading the books.
Maybe, but as Dumbledore says in CoS he has many traits of a Slytherin
I did this with my "Harry's twin" fic with one in Gryffindor and one in Slytherin, I really do think the surrounding community and individuals make a huge difference in what path people choose in life.
Which fic? I would love to read it.
Draco waiting until they were sorted, and asking to be friends with Harry -- *that* could be a future What If scenario.
I was kinda hoping that, since Harry was sorted into Slytherin, Hermione would be in Ravenclaw, but they'd still be the Golden Trio.
Yes. But Neville wouldn’t help in year four since a slytherin did something unforgivable to his parents
@@ked49 Harry however would probably be a far better wizard though and depending how the death eaters react to Voldermorts multiple failures, there mightn't even be a plot to get Harry in the tournament, since they'd be too busy fighting an internal war over whose their new figure head.
omg i screamed hystericly a little bit when i imagined all that situation with Lucious gifting Harry the broom with Draco on the scene as well AHAHA
The point at 14:59 actually made me imagine a scene, prior to the Quidditch match, where Harry and Hermione happen to meet after each of them has just suffered some quarrel or humiliation in their respective Houses. Hermione confides in Harry that, while she was happy at first to be sorted into Gryffindor, she's so isolated because of her know-it-all reputation that she wishes she'd been sorted into Ravenclaw; Harry, for his part, tells her of his House's penchant for the Dark Arts and how so many of his housemates are actually disappointed in his rejection of them, and how he wishes he'd be in any house except Slytherin; Hermione responds by recalling the Rememberall incident and telling Harry, "sometimes I feel you're more of a Gryffindor than I am". This creates an initial bond between them which leads Harry to defend Hermione the next time he sees Ron mocking her, which initially upsets Ron but later actually leads him to start reconsidering his treatment of Hermione. Of course, what really cements this is the Quidditch match incident.
Or maybe the trigger for that initial conversation would actually be Harry standing up for her against Snape -- when none of her fellow Gryffindors would...