And this makes his ERA even more impressive when you're talking about that elevation. Not only carry but movement suffers, too. But Trevor likes to talk and he isn't afraid to say when he disagrees with what MLB does.
@@Alan-rw3ez that is absolutely the issue. The MLB is TERRIBLE at promoting it's players and the game itself. Too slow to adapt to the world that is today. Bauer called them out on it routinely. This is Manfred being thin skinned and petty.
@@Alan-rw3ezThere doesn’t have to be a black list or conspiracy. The situation is as simple as this: 30 GMs don’t want the distraction of a media circus for bringing in a guy with a looooong reputation for being a clubhouse cancer. There is no way anyone takes that risk on a 33-year-old guy with obvious character flaws and 10 years of mostly lackluster MLB performance to his name. Bauer is all risk and pretty much no reward.
@@johndavies5582 If that is true he will make a billion dollars. He signed a contract with the Players Association. So now that he has been cleared the MLB cannot stand in the way of anything as they are contractually obligated to give someone who deserves to play at this level help in getting work at this point . If the MLB does not help this into reality soon they will face a lawsuit they cannot win. It is time to put it all behind and move forwards by all parties. The past must be the past or this gets even dumber and more divisive. Soon not having him here will be as offensive as it was 2 years ago to believe he was forever done. The truth is he is just to good which gives the MLB zero legal reason to continue the current path.. He proved the accusations false . That is that. there is nothing left to say on that matter whatsoever. So without that the players association must act even if they took it as far as they have they are running out of room to keep it going any more. Plus this league is starting pitcher hungry and Bauer answers the call in all ways as a pitcher.
He was found innocent, won a Cy Young, and is breaking Mexican league records with a sub 2.00 ERA. He is still a top 10 pitcher in the world. He deserves to be picked up by a contender that is one starting pitcher away from being competitive
He was never found innocent as there was never a criminal trial. He was found to be in violation of the MLB's sexual abuse policy twice, once by the MLB and again by the independent arbiter when he appealed. And after that, he settled out of court with Hill over their civil cases and she got paid $300k! Weird timeline of events for someone who is supposedly innocent.
@@____8109So you’re ignoring all the stuff that has come out about his accusers lying and subsequently losing their court cases as a result? He was and is innocent. Weird comment for someone who supposedly “knows” what’s up. 🤷🏾♂️
@@____8109 This isn't true. She got paid by an insurance company, had nothing to do with Bauer at all and amounts to insurance fraud. The other girl is under investigation for felony fraud. All the proof that came out was that Bauer got duped by two gold diggers. You show the proof otherwise because it's all out now that the text messages have been released.
Man. I think this too. Take em for 100 million and go play for fun, but we both know Trevor wants to play to show everyone. He’d do it for rent money at this point.
Issue is right now the only people speaking on the matter is true baseball fans. As soon as he signs thats when all the fake mlb fans and haters will come out of the woodworks and start theyre cancel culture bs because they failed their life goals. I feel so sorry for bauer man. Really hope I'll be able to see him pitch again
@@nerdbot37 as Bauer has stated. He doesn't care about the money. He wants to play in the MLB because who wouldn't want to. Your acting like the money he got from contracts was from freebies. He earned it all
Standing up for someone who was black balled is courage. Persons with a platform as yours should do the right thing and call out injustice. If you got treated like Bauer you would be begging and hoping others with a platform as you have would be standing up for you. Do the right thing and stop using Bauer name to get clicks and do the right thing and call out the black balling. You are part of the problem. Treat others the same way you would want to be treated. Do a show and talk about this mlb black ball of Bauer and get a bunch of views, that is the right thing to do.
Sure thing. His non apology tour was Allan act. He only did it to try to get back in the league. No remorse and no accountability or responsibility. He’s out of MLB due to his own actions. Bottom line. If you say he was set up why did he fall in? He didn’t have to. He’s reckless. He’s a narcissist and sociopath. He’s a millionaire who no one should feel sorry for. Got paid 22 million last year by the Dodgers for nothing. He’s doing well.
@@jdsthird okay but what has he done to need to be remorseful? he hasn't done the things he's accused of, and outside of having a personality deemed "incorrect" by some, he's done nothing even remotely wrong. MLB players are paid to play baseball, not make people feel warm and fuzzy inside
At this point as long as it is not the Yankees I would just like to see him play here again. I want him on my roster too but really just think he needs to find work in the MLB and I would be happy almost anywhere he lands.
Patrick Bet David is co owner of the Yankees tried to promote Trevor Bauer on his show. We’ve only heard from the fans/haters. Never the players or owners. Those are the people we need to hear from.
and you only hear from one side of the fans . So the trick now that those people have been proven false is to advocate despite them. they have nothing beyond personal feelings at this point that simply have nothing to do with baseball so they can be ignored .
There are quotes from players that speak well of him. I’m unaware of negative comments from people other than Garrett Cole and early coaches who didn’t like that he did things his own way in regards to training (which looks like a good choice on Bauers part).
So Bauer is dominating AA-AAA players in a hitter friendly league but can't even get a look from MLB teams?? Something is absolutely amiss. I hope he sues the SH*T out of Manfred, the Dodgers, and the MLB.
You cannot blame the Dodgers . They got stuck with his contract in the end and were forced by MLB brass to go with the way this went. The MLB thing . We are getting closer to that for sure but it all works itself out when the let the guy play again. Time will end this debate soon I feel.
He's basically blacklister from playing in any MLB team thanks to Manfred. Trevor even tells you without telling you in one of his TH-cam videos. Where he just gets presented in his Mexican club.
Yes, he definitely deserves to be signed in the MLB, this is the season with the most former Big Leagers in Mexico, so there's a lot of experienced players right now, sure not at their peaks but competence level is rising again.
His content is the best in all athletics. Where else does a fan get to see into the mind of the best? The way he walks us through his between starts routines as well as his pitch by pitch thought process is unmatched anywhere. If manfried thinks tb is bad for the game then its only because he let his little feelings get hurt when he was rightfully called out for his shenanigans.
Everyone I’ve talked to thinks he should be on an MLB roster… I know he did a couple goofy things the last time he was in Cleveland but I’d love to see him back in Cleveland. I think a talent like him could put their pitching staff over the top and cement them as true World Series competitors(if they aren’t already)
@@dave_mate4244(if it happens)it’ll be after this season. A piece of me believes that manfred wanted a 2 year suspension, it got reduced but I think manfred wants the full 2 year suspension one way or another…. If you think about it it’s been about 240 games he’s missed since he was originally suspended and the original suspension was for 324.
Cade looked pretty good...even tho he didnt get through 6 he had good stuff...he didnt get no run support but I'll take that outing every day of the week...glad Heston got some AB's...he looked good too...stayed back on the ball and put it in left...Hope he sticks this time
14 strike outs and 19 strike outs in the same week. Mostly pitching in extreme elevation where hitters have an extreme advantage against him when their hits go further and Trevor's pitches have no bite. That's a dominate showing by any measure and he's more than worthy of being in the show.
Bauer can still pitch at a MLB level. I’ve been surprised at how many players I’ve recognized in the Mexican League. Voit, Cano, Aquino and Tejada to name a few. One of the biggest differences between the leagues is defense, which would favor Bauer coming back. Not sure if they use humidors like they do in MLB (which has nullified power in Colorado). I’d expect Bauer to better than average with an ERA between 3.00 to 3.50. The lack of extreme elevation would help his consistency with grips and command as well. He is a bargain for league minimum and an arm without an innings limit. The next best option for available arms is Fedde, who spent last year dominating in the KBO, winning their version of Cy Young and MVP. Bauer is a better talent. Fedde is a better teammate.
I think when he does come back we will see a man who is pitching out of this world . A dude with a chip on his shoulder as big as the Green Monster and with nothing but striking out batters on his mind. I expect a few years where Bauer is really dominate upon a comeback . He is that good.
It’s crazy how much he has going against him in Mexico from a pitcher stand point. High elevation means extended ball flights, less spin on pitches, and he’s got a worse defense. Smoltz used to say pitching in the minors was more difficult because you couldn’t set those batters up for strikeouts since they swung at everything.
Trev is being blackballed. There's no other conclusion you can come to. Watch Trev's videos talking about how his pitches play differently at different altitudes, and how he changes according to venue. It's a testament to his repertoire and approach. He's not going to come back to MLB and parallel his Mexican league stats. But he'd be in the top 20% of starters again in the bigs. Seeing Keuchel get acquired for a bag a balls yesterday while Trev is eating tacos and riding buses is a tragicomedy.
I would really enjoy it if Greenberg and Hinch came together to ge Bauer in Detroit. He’s already said he would take league minimum. And to get someone of Bauers elite status next to Skubal in the starting rotation would be nothing short of dominant.
Even if LMB is AAA/AA, Trevor is still breaking records and going for the triple crown down there. You never know how well he'd perform in the majors until he gets there. But he is definitely good enough to justify a call up. That's what I really object to. They aren't giving him a chance to prove it. And that's absurd.
I think he could be back in the mlb and be a great pitcher, he’s said it himself he is better than when he left the league years ago. I think if he gets a shot he will be a contender as a pitcher in the bigs
So Trevor is playing in all these leagues, but none of them are comparable to MLB, which makes it close to impossible to consider his performances? Like where do you want Trevor to play so he can be considered for a big league contract?
It would seem that there should be a lot of teams interested in like Oakland . What do you got to lose really . especially when you can get his kind of talent cheap
Zero interest in Oakland. I would not think Bauer should even consider a media market on the West coast . Just to keep his head down a smaller market would probably be a smart move . Baltimore would be about as big of a place as would fit him right now in my opinion. The entire NL north could also fit that type of spot fit . Will be fun to find out when it happens.
@@jesusoftheapes I believe there's a market for him . I also don't think he cares totally about money anymore I think he just wants to pitch . From what I've heard he was hard to get a long with . But so what if your one of the many struggling teams in baseball he sells tickets and offers fans a glimmer of hope . I really do hope he gets back into the league no matter where it is .
Somebody please sign Trevor. At least put him at double or triple a for awhile and let him prove himself. He's innocent from what that evil woman put him thru. He won't disappoint.
I do not think that is something he would come up for. AAA is not his level either . When he comes up he will probably start within a day or two of him coming up. He won't ever see AAA again. unless he gets hurt.
The league could have such a redemption story on this one, which would make them look better, yet manfried has doubled down on his bullshit and Trevor may never pitch in the league again.
@@2005StangMan Yeah I can't stand Manfred. Just a rich boy who couldn't swing a bat if his life depended on it. Yet he's making calls on the league. Ridiculous.
Bauer was a top tier pitcher in Japan last year, now he's threatening to be the best pitcher in the league in Mexico. The fact that he's not getting any legit attention to be back in the MLB is a disgrace. You can't say he hasn't been black-balled at this point.
@@AT2Productions Why did Bauer fall for such a setup if that’s your theory? It wasn’t just woman it was six at the very least. Do you know what’s in the MLB investigation? Seems to me a bunch of you talking on matters you know nothing about. In fact the videos of his actions are a part of the investigation but you’ll always make excuses and talk about Whataboutism because personal responsibility and accountability are not a part of the vocabulary. I guess what you are saying is he’s a dumb jock that let his pants do the thinking and now he’s a victim. Nice 👍🏾
when you hear the chatter from owners about the bad reputation, I call bullsh......it was never discussed when Chapman was signed by the the Royals and Pirates and he absolutely should have been convicted.
I don’t get the long lecture on the superiority of the MLB. Yes it’s the best league, yes the Mexican league is a step or two down. But TB was a CY award winner, he was never injured. He’s still a baller and it’s showing against weaker comp. Sign Bauer!
Bauer belongs in MLB. Rob Manfred continuing to blackball him because Trevor embarrassed MLB Brass over pitcher cheating is pathetic and really a big eff u to fans. Again, Bauer belongs in MLB.
Isn't America all about 2nd chances? Michael Vick even went to prison, asked for forgiveness, then got a job back in the NFL. MLB is really messed up in not giving guys a 2nd chance. Heck, even the owner of the Dodger's, Magic Johnson, would engage in much worse things after NBA games (when he was a player), than what Trevor did.
He should have been signed before spring training AND given an apology from Manfred, who needs a one-way ticket to a slum in China, the Dodgers and all the rock throwers. Collusion is OBVIOUSLY in play here otherwise he'd be in the show yesterday.
Of course he should be in MLB. The commissioner has him blacklisted. He has no chance of getting back. There are so many teams he could help. My very cheap Guardians would be a good fit. He will play for league minimum. They are desperate for starting pitching. He could easily help them a ton.
I don't think this has anything to do with Bauer's ability to pitch. It's all about the "distraction" he would bring to the team. Bauer was an oddball even without the controversy that got him suspended. All 30 teams have concluded that he's not worth the noise he would bring with him.
Yeah but he’d be in the league if it weren’t for the false rape allegations. Since that’s been dismissed and shown to be a total scam it’s not right no one is taking a shot on him.
@@DikembeMutumbo I heard this topic discussed this morning on the Fan. They were never "dismissed", Bauer settled out of court. He paid them. And only one of the accusers turned out to be a "total scam", NOT all of them. Plus most teams believe that there are other victims out there and once he signs with a team, they will probably come out. And Bauer was never liked by his teammates in any of the teams he played for even without all this. He has always been an oddball.
@@CamKrazy2000 that’s not the way ive been reading it. They settled because he wanted to release her messages exonerating him, had they gone to trial they may not have been release-able.
@@CamKrazy2000 the one I saw literally googled how to extort him and another I think was just found guilty for something wild like felony embezzlement in another case. This is a textbook pile on the easily offended crowd does. Look at Russell Brand, that Supreme Court dude, Trump, etc. etc. All the other minor things that may make him not a great boyfriend or chooser of women don’t make him more or less guilty of the actual crime that’s punishable by law. Also lots of times rich people will settle just to make the court headache go away, doesn’t mean guilty at all.
@@DikembeMutumbo Who the F cares unless you're Bauer or his attorney? O's are just one of 30 teams and NONE of the other 29 team want him on their teams either. Right now O's are 3rd in starters ERA which means there are 27 teams that need Bauer more than O's, get it? Bauer is FINISHED as a big league player whether you like it or not, move on. And don't assume you know all the details. I'm sure all big league teams have a lot more information about Bauer's problems that we don't know about.
Even if this Mexican league is not as good as the MLB (duh) the elevation makes it a NON pitchers league and. Sure is crushing it! He deserves a shot but won’t get one be wise of the stigma . Such a shame.
Yes, he should be an Oriole if need be I will be his babysitter. I have known him since he was a UCLA, type A competitor just needs a touch of direction at times but even balls to the wall Bauer realizes his time for being an MLB player only has a couple years left.
Accounts of Who? I've seen plenty of MLB players say he's a great guy, he seemed extremely popular with the Baystar players and the evidence is that the Diablos's all like him. If I had a young pitching class, his insight alone would be worth the paycheck, let alone his own pitching.
I'm no shrink, but it seems he has an organic type of mental disorder, perhaps autism. It's annoying at times. Lots of times. I hate when he's making wagerless bets and closing one eye while pitching. He should see the potential disaster that could arise from doing those things. I would like to see the manager tell him to knock it off and see how he reacts. Not sure if he is showing off or just making content for TH-cam. I have also seen him help other pitchers and he is a hit with the fans wherever he goes. Overall, he's good for baseball. He constantly thinks of ways to improve the game and has some interesting ideas. Who else is doing that? Because these Gen Zs and those behind them, seem to be less and less baseball fans. Trevor has their ear and the tech skills to draw them in. I can see where regular major leaguers won't like him. If a group of guys can't make the adjustment and accept him with his quirks, he won't last. Forcing him into the mold is impossible. He does care about team mates and the team. He's just stuck on himself at times. Finally, he's a monster on the mound. Absolutely destroying that league and they are a blast to watch. In the end, That's what it's about. He's good for the game. and that is good for all players.
One thing to note is that the training and conditioning techniques that were often the primary sources of his estrangement from his teammates in the MLB have become accepted practice in many bullpens. He isn't going to be the odd duck in regards to that, but i do think he needs some sort of sports psychologist to help him out with his more childish impulses. It's not uncommon for him to be cussing up a storm to himself about some technical aspect of his game in the midst of a quality start.
All of the top athletes in pro sports would be found on some part of the spectrum if you really got into it. That relentless devotion to their craft over and above everything else in life isn’t natural, but it’s what it takes to go from highly skilled player to elite.
As a Dodger fan I feel like Bauer robbed the Dodger Fans. Even messing with some known baseball groupie putting your contract and the success of the club in danger was extremely selfish and irresponsible.
Flat out seems like you are just sour grapes man. The www. pops who are the very same who made this man guilty before looking beyond the accusations. To cavoite 19K in 7 innings in any professional baseball league is ridiculous. No one believes the Mexican League is as competitive as the MLB and still what Trevor Bauer is proving is that there is no way the MLB could ever argue he does not belong in the MLB as a talent now that he has dominated in 2 professional leagues and seems to be getting better as time is passing not worse. There is no argument anymore against Bauer playing in the Bigs again. None that truly matter to baseball anymore. Cleared means he did nothing we can judge the man for. Adults do adult things and that is their business and when someone intentionally use someone's fame to attempt to enrich themselves is the worst type of people. So using any of that anymore is the same as aiding and abetting fraud really . With him being cleared of all wrongdoing by the LAW there is no more room for speculative ramshackle we have heard over and over again for the entre Bauer debate began. Of course this happened in a Mexican League. However even in a sub league you can track his pitches and read the data and what he is doing there now and last year in Japan is as good as MLB diamond stuff in 2024. Trevor Bauer is so much better than Mexican Baseball he is putting up insane numbers. That only proves that he is to big for that league and belongs with the rest of the best in the world. If you dislike the man then that is your right. However instead of trying to stand in the way of Bauer playing again go boo him and cheer against him on the mound. It will be WAY more fun than this online debate and we will get to see some great pitches. We can all get along again ! LETS PLAY BALL! He still falls under the contract with the MLB players Association and you should know that Ripken . He has both cleared his name of any wrongdoing and proven he is still one of the best starting right handed pitchers in baseball through 2 leagues. It would cost the MLB a lot of money to not help him get work soon under these realities and under the Players Association bylaws themself. I know the anti Bauer voices simply do not want to admit they brought the pitch forks and torches out to soon and may never concede. They do not have to because the truth is those who have been the loudest against Bauer really have no real power to stop this from happening anymore. They had their many years of tantrums and unsubstantiated accusations they all had feelings over. That time has past. You lost get over it. If you dislike Bauer still by all means boo him when he plays against your team. Cheer for your guys to hit him and let it all play out in the GAMES . He is fun to watch pitch and right now baseball could use a injection of fun.
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19 strikeouts in a AAA game would pull you to the majors the next week...
14 & 19 within a week or two
Exactly... It's a sham he's not back in there.
And this makes his ERA even more impressive when you're talking about that elevation. Not only carry but movement suffers, too.
But Trevor likes to talk and he isn't afraid to say when he disagrees with what MLB does.
Dude was never found guilty. JUST SIGN HIM.
blacklisted by manfred, he doesn’t want Bauers voice in the game.
@@Alan-rw3ez that is absolutely the issue. The MLB is TERRIBLE at promoting it's players and the game itself. Too slow to adapt to the world that is today. Bauer called them out on it routinely. This is Manfred being thin skinned and petty.
I agree. Would be an absolutely smart move to sign a legend.
@@Alan-rw3ezThere doesn’t have to be a black list or conspiracy. The situation is as simple as this: 30 GMs don’t want the distraction of a media circus for bringing in a guy with a looooong reputation for being a clubhouse cancer. There is no way anyone takes that risk on a 33-year-old guy with obvious character flaws and 10 years of mostly lackluster MLB performance to his name. Bauer is all risk and pretty much no reward.
Bauer was top 6 Cy young and the mickey mouse Cy young right before all the bs.
Bauer deserves another chance at The Show.
Its a hitters league and Trevor has dominated he needs to be in MLB.
Low Risk, High Reward at this point.
Ummm yes and no the risk is making mlb mad at you when he is clearly been blacklisted
@@johndavies5582 If that is true he will make a billion dollars. He signed a contract with the Players Association. So now that he has been cleared the MLB cannot stand in the way of anything as they are contractually obligated to give someone who deserves to play at this level help in getting work at this point . If the MLB does not help this into reality soon they will face a lawsuit they cannot win. It is time to put it all behind and move forwards by all parties. The past must be the past or this gets even dumber and more divisive. Soon not having him here will be as offensive as it was 2 years ago to believe he was forever done. The truth is he is just to good which gives the MLB zero legal reason to continue the current path.. He proved the accusations false . That is that. there is nothing left to say on that matter whatsoever. So without that the players association must act even if they took it as far as they have they are running out of room to keep it going any more. Plus this league is starting pitcher hungry and Bauer answers the call in all ways as a pitcher.
@@johndavies5582 but the league already doesn’t like the Orioles
@@tebone3573best response ever 😂
He was found innocent, won a Cy Young, and is breaking Mexican league records with a sub 2.00 ERA. He is still a top 10 pitcher in the world. He deserves to be picked up by a contender that is one starting pitcher away from being competitive
He was never found innocent as there was never a criminal trial. He was found to be in violation of the MLB's sexual abuse policy twice, once by the MLB and again by the independent arbiter when he appealed. And after that, he settled out of court with Hill over their civil cases and she got paid $300k! Weird timeline of events for someone who is supposedly innocent.
@@____8109 And yet he has proof that she was trying to get paid
@@____8109So you’re ignoring all the stuff that has come out about his accusers lying and subsequently losing their court cases as a result? He was and is innocent.
Weird comment for someone who supposedly “knows” what’s up. 🤷🏾♂️
You’re delusional, his accuser got charged with fraud. This is clearly another woman chasing a payday from a rich man ruining his life in the process.
@@____8109 This isn't true. She got paid by an insurance company, had nothing to do with Bauer at all and amounts to insurance fraud. The other girl is under investigation for felony fraud. All the proof that came out was that Bauer got duped by two gold diggers. You show the proof otherwise because it's all out now that the text messages have been released.
Absolutely he should be signed but I'd also love to see hime take MLB for hundreds of millions.
Man. I think this too. Take em for 100 million and go play for fun, but we both know Trevor wants to play to show everyone. He’d do it for rent money at this point.
Issue is right now the only people speaking on the matter is true baseball fans. As soon as he signs thats when all the fake mlb fans and haters will come out of the woodworks and start theyre cancel culture bs because they failed their life goals. I feel so sorry for bauer man. Really hope I'll be able to see him pitch again
The guy has a couple hundred million bucks that he took MLB for already. He'll be fine and neither needs nor deserves anyone's pity.
@@nerdbot37 as Bauer has stated. He doesn't care about the money. He wants to play in the MLB because who wouldn't want to. Your acting like the money he got from contracts was from freebies. He earned it all
Standing up for someone who was black balled is courage. Persons with a platform as yours should do the right thing and call out injustice. If you got treated like Bauer you would be begging and hoping others with a platform as you have would be standing up for you. Do the right thing and stop using Bauer name to get clicks and do the right thing and call out the black balling. You are part of the problem. Treat others the same way you would want to be treated. Do a show and talk about this mlb black ball of Bauer and get a bunch of views, that is the right thing to do.
If you do a deep dive and listen to his interviews recently and still don’t think he deserves another chance I’d love to hear why
Sure thing. His non apology tour was Allan act. He only did it to try to get back in the league. No remorse and no accountability or responsibility. He’s out of MLB due to his own actions. Bottom line. If you say he was set up why did he fall in? He didn’t have to. He’s reckless. He’s a narcissist and sociopath. He’s a millionaire who no one should feel sorry for. Got paid 22 million last year by the Dodgers for nothing. He’s doing well.
@@jdsthirdYou don't need accountability when you're not guilty of anything. Prove me wrong
@@farpointgamingdirect Everyone needs accountability. He said himself he hurt a lot of people. That’s his own words.
@@jdsthird okay but what has he done to need to be remorseful? he hasn't done the things he's accused of, and outside of having a personality deemed "incorrect" by some, he's done nothing even remotely wrong. MLB players are paid to play baseball, not make people feel warm and fuzzy inside
@@ryan.8783 If he said he hurt a lot of people isn’t it natural to feel remorse for this? I don’t understand what’s so difficult to figure out.
Would love to see Bauer on the O's. #freetrevor
At this point as long as it is not the Yankees I would just like to see him play here again. I want him on my roster too but really just think he needs to find work in the MLB and I would be happy almost anywhere he lands.
Patrick Bet David is co owner of the Yankees tried to promote Trevor Bauer on his show. We’ve only heard from the fans/haters. Never the players or owners. Those are the people we need to hear from.
and you only hear from one side of the fans . So the trick now that those people have been proven false is to advocate despite them. they have nothing beyond personal feelings at this point that simply have nothing to do with baseball so they can be ignored .
The problem is Patrick only owns a small percentage of the team, Steinbrenner might take some more convincing!
There are quotes from players that speak well of him. I’m unaware of negative comments from people other than Garrett Cole and early coaches who didn’t like that he did things his own way in regards to training (which looks like a good choice on Bauers part).
Not just elevation is effecting the ball; humidity. High Humidity makes the ball sale. The combo makes it even crazier ...
It also flattens out the pitches making it even harder for them to get good action, making this even more impressive.
Bauer needs to be in MLB.
So Bauer is dominating AA-AAA players in a hitter friendly league but can't even get a look from MLB teams?? Something is absolutely amiss. I hope he sues the SH*T out of Manfred, the Dodgers, and the MLB.
You cannot blame the Dodgers . They got stuck with his contract in the end and were forced by MLB brass to go with the way this went. The MLB thing . We are getting closer to that for sure but it all works itself out when the let the guy play again. Time will end this debate soon I feel.
He's basically blacklister from playing in any MLB team thanks to Manfred. Trevor even tells you without telling you in one of his TH-cam videos. Where he just gets presented in his Mexican club.
Yes, he definitely deserves to be signed in the MLB, this is the season with the most former Big Leagers in Mexico, so there's a lot of experienced players right now, sure not at their peaks but competence level is rising again.
The Braves need to get him.
His content is the best in all athletics. Where else does a fan get to see into the mind of the best? The way he walks us through his between starts routines as well as his pitch by pitch thought process is unmatched anywhere. If manfried thinks tb is bad for the game then its only because he let his little feelings get hurt when he was rightfully called out for his shenanigans.
Everyone I’ve talked to thinks he should be on an MLB roster… I know he did a couple goofy things the last time he was in Cleveland but I’d love to see him back in Cleveland. I think a talent like him could put their pitching staff over the top and cement them as true World Series competitors(if they aren’t already)
Only people who don’t want him are ones that go with whatever is least controversial and have no spine. Type that still wear masks.
He's blacklisted from any MLB team thanks to Manfred. I don't think it'll happen unfortunately.
@@dave_mate4244(if it happens)it’ll be after this season. A piece of me believes that manfred wanted a 2 year suspension, it got reduced but I think manfred wants the full 2 year suspension one way or another…. If you think about it it’s been about 240 games he’s missed since he was originally suspended and the original suspension was for 324.
Cano hitting over 400 at his age is crazy idgaf if it is a lower league
Well, they might not have the steroid tests like the MLB did isn’t that how he got kicked out?
They literally had one or two sentences about Trevor!!
Video should be titled "Explaining Trevor Bauer's performance without explaining Trevor Bauer's performance".
He deserves a chance. He did it in Japan too, he was runner up for their Cy Young award
Cade looked pretty good...even tho he didnt get through 6
he had good stuff...he didnt get no run support but I'll take
that outing every day of the week...glad Heston got some
AB's...he looked good too...stayed back on the ball and
put it in left...Hope he sticks this time
Oh let’s just skirt the most important question at hand that the entire fkin problem people refuse to stand up and speak out for Bauer
14 strike outs and 19 strike outs in the same week. Mostly pitching in extreme elevation where hitters have an extreme advantage against him when their hits go further and Trevor's pitches have no bite.
That's a dominate showing by any measure and he's more than worthy of being in the show.
Bauer can still pitch at a MLB level. I’ve been surprised at how many players I’ve recognized in the Mexican League. Voit, Cano, Aquino and Tejada to name a few. One of the biggest differences between the leagues is defense, which would favor Bauer coming back. Not sure if they use humidors like they do in MLB (which has nullified power in Colorado). I’d expect Bauer to better than average with an ERA between 3.00 to 3.50. The lack of extreme elevation would help his consistency with grips and command as well. He is a bargain for league minimum and an arm without an innings limit. The next best option for available arms is Fedde, who spent last year dominating in the KBO, winning their version of Cy Young and MVP. Bauer is a better talent. Fedde is a better teammate.
I think when he does come back we will see a man who is pitching out of this world . A dude with a chip on his shoulder as big as the Green Monster and with nothing but striking out batters on his mind. I expect a few years where Bauer is really dominate upon a comeback . He is that good.
It’s crazy how much he has going against him in Mexico from a pitcher stand point. High elevation means extended ball flights, less spin on pitches, and he’s got a worse defense. Smoltz used to say pitching in the minors was more difficult because you couldn’t set those batters up for strikeouts since they swung at everything.
How about with the way he pitched against the Yankees this year???
He is still undefeated in Mexico, amazing guy!
Trev is being blackballed. There's no other conclusion you can come to. Watch Trev's videos talking about how his pitches play differently at different altitudes, and how he changes according to venue. It's a testament to his repertoire and approach. He's not going to come back to MLB and parallel his Mexican league stats. But he'd be in the top 20% of starters again in the bigs. Seeing Keuchel get acquired for a bag a balls yesterday while Trev is eating tacos and riding buses is a tragicomedy.
I would really enjoy it if Greenberg and Hinch came together to ge Bauer in Detroit. He’s already said he would take league minimum. And to get someone of Bauers elite status next to Skubal in the starting rotation would be nothing short of dominant.
The ball doesn’t have as much movement at altitude either
Even if LMB is AAA/AA, Trevor is still breaking records and going for the triple crown down there. You never know how well he'd perform in the majors until he gets there. But he is definitely good enough to justify a call up.
That's what I really object to. They aren't giving him a chance to prove it. And that's absurd.
I think he could be back in the mlb and be a great pitcher, he’s said it himself he is better than when he left the league years ago. I think if he gets a shot he will be a contender as a pitcher in the bigs
He's not just doing "kinda good" he's setting records
So Trevor is playing in all these leagues, but none of them are comparable to MLB, which makes it close to impossible to consider his performances? Like where do you want Trevor to play so he can be considered for a big league contract?
at altitude, ball flies, but pitches break less as well
It’s a crime of Justice that this man is not in the majors smh
Os need to sign him ASAP
Bring him in !!!!
The Boston Red Sox should and must sign Trevor Bauer. He would bring so much to the staff, assisting the pitching coach with a different perspective.
It would seem that there should be a lot of teams interested in like Oakland . What do you got to lose really . especially when you can get his kind of talent cheap
Zero interest in Oakland. I would not think Bauer should even consider a media market on the West coast . Just to keep his head down a smaller market would probably be a smart move . Baltimore would be about as big of a place as would fit him right now in my opinion. The entire NL north could also fit that type of spot fit . Will be fun to find out when it happens.
@@jesusoftheapes I believe there's a market for him . I also don't think he cares totally about money anymore I think he just wants to pitch . From what I've heard he was hard to get a long with . But so what if your one of the many struggling teams in baseball he sells tickets and offers fans a glimmer of hope . I really do hope he gets back into the league no matter where it is .
Somebody please sign Trevor. At least put him at double or triple a for awhile and let him prove himself. He's innocent from what that evil woman put him thru. He won't disappoint.
I do not think that is something he would come up for. AAA is not his level either . When he comes up he will probably start within a day or two of him coming up. He won't ever see AAA again. unless he gets hurt.
No need for minors. He's essentially showing his minors tryout in Mexico.
The league could have such a redemption story on this one, which would make them look better, yet manfried has doubled down on his bullshit and Trevor may never pitch in the league again.
@@2005StangMan Yeah I can't stand Manfred. Just a rich boy who couldn't swing a bat if his life depended on it. Yet he's making calls on the league. Ridiculous.
Mlb the show ledgend micky jannis
Bauer was a top tier pitcher in Japan last year, now he's threatening to be the best pitcher in the league in Mexico. The fact that he's not getting any legit attention to be back in the MLB is a disgrace. You can't say he hasn't been black-balled at this point.
@@AT2Productions Why did Bauer fall for such a setup if that’s your theory? It wasn’t just woman it was six at the very least. Do you know what’s in the MLB investigation? Seems to me a bunch of you talking on matters you know nothing about. In fact the videos of his actions are a part of the investigation but you’ll always make excuses and talk about Whataboutism because personal responsibility and accountability are not a part of the vocabulary. I guess what you are saying is he’s a dumb jock that let his pants do the thinking and now he’s a victim. Nice 👍🏾
when you hear the chatter from owners about the bad reputation, I call bullsh......it was never discussed when Chapman was signed by the the Royals and Pirates and he absolutely should have been convicted.
Would love to see Bauer on orioles
I don’t get the long lecture on the superiority of the MLB. Yes it’s the best league, yes the Mexican league is a step or two down. But TB was a CY award winner, he was never injured. He’s still a baller and it’s showing against weaker comp. Sign Bauer!
Sign him NOW!!!!
I hope the orioles sign him
Ripken with a terrible take here not surprised
I wish the Mets would sign him!!!!
He was never charged give him a chance.
Bauer belongs in MLB. Rob Manfred continuing to blackball him because Trevor embarrassed MLB Brass over pitcher cheating is pathetic and really a big eff u to fans. Again, Bauer belongs in MLB.
SWORD!
I would love to see TB sue the MLB and win a TON of CASH.
Isn't America all about 2nd chances? Michael Vick even went to prison, asked for forgiveness, then got a job back in the NFL. MLB is really messed up in not giving guys a 2nd chance.
Heck, even the owner of the Dodger's, Magic Johnson, would engage in much worse things after NBA games (when he was a player), than what Trevor did.
Just do it o's!
He should have been signed before spring training AND given an apology from Manfred, who needs a one-way ticket to a slum in China, the Dodgers and all the rock throwers. Collusion is OBVIOUSLY in play here otherwise he'd be in the show yesterday.
Of course he should be in MLB. The commissioner has him blacklisted. He has no chance of getting back. There are so many teams he could help. My very cheap Guardians would be a good fit. He will play for league minimum. They are desperate for starting pitching. He could easily help them a ton.
I don't think this has anything to do with Bauer's ability to pitch. It's all about the "distraction" he would bring to the team. Bauer was an oddball even without the controversy that got him suspended. All 30 teams have concluded that he's not worth the noise he would bring with him.
Yeah but he’d be in the league if it weren’t for the false rape allegations. Since that’s been dismissed and shown to be a total scam it’s not right no one is taking a shot on him.
@@DikembeMutumbo I heard this topic discussed this morning on the Fan. They were never "dismissed", Bauer settled out of court. He paid them. And only one of the accusers turned out to be a "total scam", NOT all of them. Plus most teams believe that there are other victims out there and once he signs with a team, they will probably come out. And Bauer was never liked by his teammates in any of the teams he played for even without all this. He has always been an oddball.
@@CamKrazy2000 that’s not the way ive been reading it. They settled because he wanted to release her messages exonerating him, had they gone to trial they may not have been release-able.
@@CamKrazy2000 the one I saw literally googled how to extort him and another I think was just found guilty for something wild like felony embezzlement in another case. This is a textbook pile on the easily offended crowd does. Look at Russell Brand, that Supreme Court dude, Trump, etc. etc. All the other minor things that may make him not a great boyfriend or chooser of women don’t make him more or less guilty of the actual crime that’s punishable by law. Also lots of times rich people will settle just to make the court headache go away, doesn’t mean guilty at all.
@@DikembeMutumbo Who the F cares unless you're Bauer or his attorney? O's are just one of 30 teams and NONE of the other 29 team want him on their teams either. Right now O's are 3rd in starters ERA which means there are 27 teams that need Bauer more than O's, get it? Bauer is FINISHED as a big league player whether you like it or not, move on. And don't assume you know all the details. I'm sure all big league teams have a lot more information about Bauer's problems that we don't know about.
He deserves to be back in the major leagues. If he doesn't get there, I'm sure he will Sue.M l b for a lot of money and win
Trade for Fette, sign Bauer, trade Basallo for Miller straight up, and send Irvin with Suarez back to BP
Even if this Mexican league is not as good as the MLB (duh) the elevation makes it a NON pitchers league and. Sure is crushing it! He deserves a shot but won’t get one be wise of the stigma . Such a shame.
Yes, he should be an Oriole if need be I will be his babysitter. I have known him since he was a UCLA, type A competitor just needs a touch of direction at times but even balls to the wall Bauer realizes his time for being an MLB player only has a couple years left.
Red Sox need him
It’s a travesty that Trev isn’t in mlb, being blackballed for no good reason
Sign him. He did nothing wrong
#texasrangers... nuff said
Let's compare the Dodgers, MLB and MLBPA treatment of Shohei Ohtani Vs Trevor Bauer. And there is the why he will never comeback to the Big Leagues?
Rip is a Hater
Dodgers get first dibs
The only thing he’s guilty of is the women he’s choosing to sleep with. If he’s pitching at an MLB level than he should be in the Show
Don’t put you dick in crazy. Amen
mexico beat usa in wbc though
By all accounts he was an a-hole before all the controversy happened. That's why I don't want the O's to sign him.
Accounts of Who? I've seen plenty of MLB players say he's a great guy, he seemed extremely popular with the Baystar players and the evidence is that the Diablos's all like him.
If I had a young pitching class, his insight alone would be worth the paycheck, let alone his own pitching.
The league is full of asshole players, that’s not the damn reason.
If he was such a massive problem, why did the Dodgers sign him to a huge contract in the first place.
Let Bauer pitch in WokeMLB again.
He should sign a long term contract in Mexico and stay there. He’ll never play in MLB again.
as you can see, no one gives a shit what you think. You are clueless.
I'm no shrink, but it seems he has an organic type of mental disorder, perhaps autism. It's annoying at times. Lots of times. I hate when he's making wagerless bets and closing one eye while pitching. He should see the potential disaster that could arise from doing those things. I would like to see the manager tell him to knock it off and see how he reacts. Not sure if he is showing off or just making content for TH-cam. I have also seen him help other pitchers and he is a hit with the fans wherever he goes. Overall, he's good for baseball. He constantly thinks of ways to improve the game and has some interesting ideas. Who else is doing that? Because these Gen Zs and those behind them, seem to be less and less baseball fans. Trevor has their ear and the tech skills to draw them in. I can see where regular major leaguers won't like him. If a group of guys can't make the adjustment and accept him with his quirks, he won't last. Forcing him into the mold is impossible. He does care about team mates and the team. He's just stuck on himself at times. Finally, he's a monster on the mound. Absolutely destroying that league and they are a blast to watch. In the end, That's what it's about. He's good for the game. and that is good for all players.
One thing to note is that the training and conditioning techniques that were often the primary sources of his estrangement from his teammates in the MLB have become accepted practice in many bullpens. He isn't going to be the odd duck in regards to that, but i do think he needs some sort of sports psychologist to help him out with his more childish impulses. It's not uncommon for him to be cussing up a storm to himself about some technical aspect of his game in the midst of a quality start.
@@joeldykman7591 yeah I listend to his early years. Definite autist vibes.
All of the top athletes in pro sports would be found on some part of the spectrum if you really got into it. That relentless devotion to their craft over and above everything else in life isn’t natural, but it’s what it takes to go from highly skilled player to elite.
given how many teams need pitching and he still isnt signed by anyone, it's not happening. his MLB career is done.
As a Dodger fan I feel like Bauer robbed the Dodger Fans. Even messing with some known baseball groupie putting your contract and the success of the club in danger was extremely selfish and irresponsible.
You are literally describing every pro-athlete for the past 100 years.
No.
YES!
He’s definitely better than Swerving Cole Irwin. How long is the O’s going to keep trotting that bum out there? #signtrevorbauer
Flat out seems like you are just sour grapes man. The www. pops who are the very same who made this man guilty before looking beyond the accusations. To cavoite 19K in 7 innings in any professional baseball league is ridiculous. No one believes the Mexican League is as competitive as the MLB and still what Trevor Bauer is proving is that there is no way the MLB could ever argue he does not belong in the MLB as a talent now that he has dominated in 2 professional leagues and seems to be getting better as time is passing not worse. There is no argument anymore against Bauer playing in the Bigs again. None that truly matter to baseball anymore. Cleared means he did nothing we can judge the man for. Adults do adult things and that is their business and when someone intentionally use someone's fame to attempt to enrich themselves is the worst type of people. So using any of that anymore is the same as aiding and abetting fraud really . With him being cleared of all wrongdoing by the LAW there is no more room for speculative ramshackle we have heard over and over again for the entre Bauer debate began. Of course this happened in a Mexican League. However even in a sub league you can track his pitches and read the data and what he is doing there now and last year in Japan is as good as MLB diamond stuff in 2024. Trevor Bauer is so much better than Mexican Baseball he is putting up insane numbers. That only proves that he is to big for that league and belongs with the rest of the best in the world. If you dislike the man then that is your right. However instead of trying to stand in the way of Bauer playing again go boo him and cheer against him on the mound. It will be WAY more fun than this online debate and we will get to see some great pitches. We can all get along again ! LETS PLAY BALL! He still falls under the contract with the MLB players Association and you should know that Ripken . He has both cleared his name of any wrongdoing and proven he is still one of the best starting right handed pitchers in baseball through 2 leagues. It would cost the MLB a lot of money to not help him get work soon under these realities and under the Players Association bylaws themself. I know the anti Bauer voices simply do not want to admit they brought the pitch forks and torches out to soon and may never concede. They do not have to because the truth is those who have been the loudest against Bauer really have no real power to stop this from happening anymore. They had their many years of tantrums and unsubstantiated accusations they all had feelings over. That time has past. You lost get over it. If you dislike Bauer still by all means boo him when he plays against your team. Cheer for your guys to hit him and let it all play out in the GAMES . He is fun to watch pitch and right now baseball could use a injection of fun.
Hell Yes,he should !!
So saying it’s triple level? What the fuck mlb is the only professional league? No one would sign him or he’d be doing the same thing in mlb