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- At a CNN town hall following the Parkland school shooting, survivor Emma Gonzalez presses National Rifle Association spokeswoman Dana Loesch on the NRA's stance on banning the purchase of semi-automatic and fully automatic weapons
The way we discuss mental Heath in this country is horrifying.
Dana’s language is ludicrously unintelligent. Using terms like mental, crazy etc is ridiculous. It’s insulting to people with mental illness.
Elle - Now where did I put that rat's ass I could give?...
It's way past time for people to stop being offended at mere words & playing the victim. Grow the hell up.
M Halvaresh god they really need to do something about the education system in America. It’s embarrassing.
When I read this comment I laughed with relief. I wasn’t the only one with common sense here. You all beautiful! “Nuts”? How intelligent! He’s not a monster! He needs help! Ahhh Dana makes me crazy.
M Halvaresh so basically using strong words of hate towards a group of people is okay? Mental health is still stigmatized today because of the way we talk about it. Nobody suffering from mental health issues is crazy.
With all due respect sherrif how can u protect me when 9 out of 10 times u wont be there till after the fact
And when you get there you don't act and run away...hmmm
When seconds count the police are only minutes away.
Arm everyone. Everyone? EVERYONE!!!!
Thank the lord, you saved me from writing this comment. Thanks
Typical scapegoating comment, when will Republicans run in and save your children and ours, Unfortunately, we will lose alot more of our kids, before that day ever comes. Republican scapegoating is disgusting ( mental health) is always there playbook. So tell me why There hero T cut all funding towards mental health, one of the first things he did, when he got into the White House? Because it was Obama who wanted more funding for mental health? His hatred for, him cut that real quick, even tho, they claim, everytime it's not a gun problem, but you know what they say, Fuck the Republican party
How can anyone have a real conversation in settings like these...???
Brandon, Precisely
Did you get shot there?? Then shut up!!
*CNN putting on another show, to sway the opinion of sheep, in a Problem/Reaction/Solution Psyop.*
It only works on small minds, like the ones programmed to tune into their broadcast.
I was click-baited here by TH-cam influenced algorithms, displaying it as "Recommended for you"...Oooops!
+jon snow, Excellent commentary.
JNKKO Yeah the crowd is terrible. It’s supposed to be a conversation between her and the kids not people with emotions they can’t control
Did that police officer just avoid answering the question and then manage to get an applause
Yes
😂
Yes, he did answer the question it probably was just the way he answered. He could have chosen better phrasing for his response.
How did he answer the question? He totally ignored the question and stated 3 things America needs to do in order to prevent mass shootings. His department, along with federal agencies did not act when presented with a lot of factual evidence that this individual was indeed a threat. Going around and sending the kind of stuff the individual was sending was threatening and not normal. Again, apologies if I missed the sheriffs response but I did not hear the reasoning behind why LE did not act. Also, his comment about how 18 year olds should not be allowed to buy rifles, was comical. 18 year olds lack common sense (we know this), but we still allow them to enlist in an infantry unit within the US military and go overseas to fight wars. I’m assuming the sheriff is against that then as well? Also, I don’t want to start a debate but please understand that if criminals want to inflict harm on others, they will do so. It doesn’t matter what “laws” you put in place, criminals don’t obey laws, that’s why they are criminals. There is no making it “harder” for criminals to obtain firearms. If criminals want firearms, they will get them. However, more “gun control” does make it harder on law abiding citizens. A couple examples then I am off.
1. The most recent federal rule by ATF “pistol brace ban” (not constitutional and ruled out by a federal judge with a nationwide injunction. Now everyone can go back to rocking their braces). My point to this is that, Biden admin stated the brace made it easier for “criminals” to stabilize their firearms, allowing for more people to be killed in an incident. Yes, although the brace was invented for those who have disabilities, you can shoulder it to help with accuracy while using an SBR. Wouldn’t you want “law abiding citizens” to be accurate with their guns? I sure would like the guy backing me up to be accurate, and the brace did just that. The funny thing is though, do you really think a criminal was going to obey the brace ruling? A criminal walks into a store about to commit one of the biggest atrocities a human can commit and says to himself, “damn, should I really be using this brace? I’m about to light everyone up but if I get caught with this brace, I’m looking at 10 years”. I mean it’s just stupid.
I can say the same thing for the states who place “ammo” restrictions for magazines. Do you really think a criminal cares how many rounds he has in his magazines? Criminals do not. This is what makes them criminal. Mag capacity restrictions do impact those who follow the law which in return can affect them if they ever come across one of those “criminals”.
I could literally go on and on. We live in a society where firearms are a norm, so as a country lets acknowledge that, and start educating the younger generations about them. I believe this is a good start.
I am open to having friendly discussions about firearms in America and gun control but please do not blast this message with hate.
Thanks
@@Jdubs93 Yes. They do not know there are more guns in the US than people and over 120 million gun owners. Too late to try to take tools of freedom from the people the way Hitler took the Jews' guns. Also, FDR killed more Jews than America's 120 million gun owners ever will. Read The Jews Should Keep Quiet. By Rafael Medoff. FDR also starved Americans. Read FDR's Folly. By Jim Powell. Look up the Supreme Court case involving the farmer, Osker Filburn. Wickard v. Filburn, 317 US 111 (1942) Filburn was the farmer FDR punished for trying to feed starving Americans as children ate out of garbage cans in the big cities. America could not even get Americans to stop drinking alcohol. How will they get 120 million gun owners to give up a human right that started the American Revolution?
Wasn't it this Sheriff's deputies that sat outside for 4 minutes, guns in hand listening to those kids getting shot until a group of LEOs from another jurisdiction arrived.
Juan Gonzalez yes
I thought it was a school security guard?
Juan Gonzalez he should rot in hell and should not rebuke her! We should rebuke him for not doing his job!
Novascotia Skater the sheriff is in charge of the security guard so it is also his fault.
MrReasonablethinker she doesn’t lack any! It’s just a question! GEEEEZZZZ!!!!!!
"18 yr. olds should never have a rifle." Then lets stop giving them one and sending them off to wars that they had no say in starting...
I'm with you but this doesn't apply in this day and age. There is no draft, 18yo's volunteer
Regardless of the mandatory sign up at 18 the draft is not enforced so there is no draft.
Before you respond make sure you understand this. ^
18 year olds should definitely have a rifle every good person has an obligation and responsibility to be able to protect themselves if the country collapsed. I do not have to be a prey in a world full of predators I'm not a sheep I'm a lion . My grandpa killed Nazis for our right to speak freely and bear arms and now we have big groups of crybabies that actually think changing laws are really going to keep them safe it's idiotic and very naive. That's like saying if we just make alcohol illegal we will not have vehicular death anymore lol c'mon now
Man screw that I'm joining the US marine corps and I own rifles . No one will take my rights away not sleeping Joe Biden not any dumb politician
@Lobster Johnson oookay.. but it hasn't, so.. irrelevant speculation.
I don't like MONDAYS.......
POLITICAL MOUTHPIECE ON ???
People these days listen and react.. Not listen to understand..
Mass killings keep happening at schools. Nothing has been done to curb the situation. What is it that the victims fail to understand? Yes people react now, because they're fed up with years of government inaction on the issue.
you as a tax paying citizen have been paying and still do pay for mass bombings and killings over seas.
How are you any different than Nick Cruz? Instead of killing people yourself, your tax money helps pay for some grunt in the military to do so, overseas of course, so that most of you dumb fucks have no idea and think life is good.
A WHS people often forget that Obama was the droner in chief that literally authorized 10s of THOUSANDS of drone strikes that resulted in thousands of mass casualty events. Where is his drone ban!?
A WHS unbelievably stupid
Might I add America is Rome reborn "Ancient Babylon"
They literally ignored his insanity lol. He was already way on the radar, they did nothing. Just like they did nothing when they arrived at the school when it was happening, just like the uvalde police stood in the hall and did nothing.
Seriously? This deputy is acting like he cares more about these children then Dana, yet he ran away from the shooter.
Jacob Hammond Not only that, but he also kept the officers under his command not to enter. Scott Israel is the Coward of Broward.
@@bearded.libertarian Wow, even worse. I didn't realize that.
He should get off of his preverbal high horse, He wants to enforce red flag laws and never give people there rights or guns back. Without due process this is turning out to be a nightmare for the law abiding and routine for the criminals.
He also blames Dana and the NRA for what happened, yet when she mentions the 39 red flags, he immediately moves to "the only one responsible is the shooter"
@@randalthor2859 I believe these kids are being manipulated to perform these horrible crimes. This is not normal, these punks are given mind altering drugs, and subliminally being programmed for this. Not sure how much truth there is for this, but, this exact program is described in "The Secret Government", a book written by a navy intelligence officer. I'm going to find it, and check it out.
Dana: we should take guns from people with mental illness
Crowd:BOOO
officer: we should take guns from people with mental illness
Crowd: YAYYYYY
Bias crowd. But, if her part of solution were to come to play, how are they going to remove the guns from mentally ill gun owners?
Yeah, this debate was a worthless witch hunt. The audience hated Dana to begin with and had no intention of actually listening to ANYTHING she had to say (Dana could have said "puppies are adorable and murder is bad" and that whole room still would have booed her)
back woods boys or makes no difference anyone deyermin3d enough to go shoot up a location will and can do this sort of thing.
That is what I heard too. She agreed with the question and the crowd and the students read into it wrong or something.
back woods boys exactly they're to emotional indoctrinated with the idea that the NRA is to blame. Not the parent that live with him or the FBI or local authority that knew about him. They were just looking for a punching bag. liberals are just evil motherlovers manipulating the scene.
I'M GLAD THEY HAD THIS CHAT. SINCE THEN, THEY'VE BANNED PLASTIC STRAWS. GOOD JOB, AMERICA.
2Bdiscovered that’s only in California
William Hutt nope, it’s here I’m Washington and in Oregon, too
LMAOOOOOO
Banning plastic straws is actually a really really good thing. The environment is priority because we actually have to live in this world. But I don’t get why the US hasn’t banned firearms
thot tea x Any attempt to ban a right such as gun ownership as set forth in the US constitution which specifically states Shall Not Be Infringed would start a major massacre and war so they are pushing it by making or adding new laws as it is. The fact is that evil people will do evil things. Poor abused Demi Moore look alike Dana L. Is missing the point. She speaks as if there is some action that can be taken by the people that will alter the future and prevent such events from ever happening again. Crimes are committed every day and are already illegal. Her argument is just as valid as saying that we must take action now so no crimes of any kind are ever committed again. That staged lady asking questions to Dana as if she is responsible for the actions of "crazy" people is clearly there to try and pull heart strings. If anyone is to blame besides patsy it is the FBI who we already know works with CIA & spies on every single person would know exactly who is going to do what yet they claim they could not locate the shooter despite the unusual spelling of his name & the fact that that was the screen name exact that he posted comments under. This event like 9/11 was intended to happen. Those who allowed it to are really the ones to blame.
NRA spokesperson is "fighting for people." As she said 4 years ago... She uses the words "crazy people" many times. Lord.
Any one in the nra is awful
@@allmyhomieshatesusanwojiki7193 The Liberal party is awful
She is an NRA groomer.
@@allmyhomieshatesusanwojiki7193 Indeed, they should adopt a no compromise approach
Ya I think someone who shoots up a school falls under the “crazy person” category but by all means think of murderers as perfectly rational
The cop said that fully autos should be outlawed??? As a cop shouldn’t he know that they are outlawed already
They aren't outlawed. However, the process to legally procure/purchase a fully automatic weapon is VERY involved, expensive, time-consuming, and more. SOME states have outlawed purchase of such weapons, but 35 states still permit it. In those states you:
Must be 21 and older
Must fill out form 4 and submit using a class 3 dealer
Must get the paperwork signed by the sheriff or police chief where you live
Must get fingerprint and background check
Must submit a couple of portrait pictures similar to that used for a passport
Must send all to BATF along with $200
Must wait 6 months to a year for paperwork to come back (as long as all is filled properly)
Must take returned paperwork to class 3 dealer who then takes about $150 of your money and gives you your automatic weapon.
Some states will require additional checks and licensing beyond this.
Furthermore, you have to find one for sale. The supply of legally-transferable machine guns was cut off in May of 1986 by federal law. There are roughly 186,000 of them in circulation, and the number slowly decreases over time as they are occasionally destroyed, lost, or stolen. Demand keeps going up because the population increases over time so the number of registered full autos per-capita decreases. They are very expensive. Almost the entire cost is due to the artificial scarcity imposed by law. Expect to pay $7000+ for machine pistols, and $15,000+ for fully automatic rifles.
Or, become a a Type 1 or Type 7 FFL, you can get a Class 3 or Class 2 SOT (special occupation tax) that will allow you to deal with NFA items.. As such you could own full-auto weapons regardless of manufacture date..
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Non-FFL holders cannot get a permit to own automatic weapons. They can purchase a single NFA item with a Form 4, but it's not a blanket authorization.. It applies only to a single serialized, pre-86 automatic weapon, or other NFA item.
So, no, they aren't "outlawed" except in some states. And the rest there is a LOT to go through (and a load of money required) to obtain a fully automatic firearm.
Not of you have a class 3 licences but to get one you have to give your right to a warrant and the ATF can come in any time they want
They are restricted, which is what they are asking for anyway so.
Exactly.....Also the AR is not a "Weapon of War" it has never been used in war or sold in war. It is a uniquely civilian firearm.
Some are sold illegally in a separate parts of the stores for more money
"We know how to keep America safe."
2020: ummm yeah...
LMAO yeah his line didnt age well
Sure. Kill the virus with a gun.
I think China brought that
Well that's china's mistake.
2021: that aged like Greek yogurt
"18 year old should NEVER have a rifle!"
until you need them to fight a war for you
It really sucks that Dana didn't spit this line out. What the hell would that cop have said!!??
@@ericmceachin6375 Drones, misiles, strongest millitary in the world, childish mindset of an unrealistic year 1800 mindset..... and the list goes on.......He could have picked any of those or more and be 100% correct, and she would sound like a moron that are ready to arm 18 year olds to "walk over and fight commies"....How does your brain even function?
If you need to arm 18 year olds in the 21. century, then the war is already lost. Again, this is not sailing with pirate ships or wherever your brain goes for malfunctioning, If whoever the opponent is, destroyed the biggest and most technological millitary in the world. Then it is over
kay kay we hunt in my state. WV... my kid learned how to use a shotgun, responsibly, at four... she upgraded to a rifle at eight. She will use it on a human being that tries to do her harm. Hopeful of course that day will never happen...
The second amendment is not there for us to fight a war. It is there so if we have to fight our government.
David Presley, I think you need to read it again. It is not that specific. "the security of a free state"
A firearm is an inanimate object. It cannot load itself; levitate itself; aim itself; or pull its own trigger, despite what Alec Baldwin says. Like a hammer, a carving knife, a pair of scissors, an automobile, or an axe, it can be used either for good or bad depending on the intention of the person in whose hands it is held. Going after the NRA or firearms manufacturers because of evil committed by those utilizing their products would be fine if, in honesty, we also took liquor manufacturers and automakers to court for providing the means for drunk drivers to kill.
Should have been debated without an audience
Rose Purcell
They should have finished the debate at the OK Corral
debated this close to the event means emotions rule over common sense. 2a guarantees the right. this is the reason why it was made difficult to change the constitution.
Nah.
1965mt, the 2nd amendment doesn't guarantee the right to own and use semi-automatic assault weapons that are designed strictly for SLAUGHTERING humans (or animals, for jerks who want to play Big Game Hunter).
Not the Communist News Network's Paradigm
Big talk from the cop who ran from a shooter.
He’s a coward covering his ass. Hey coward cop, grow a pair and a spine.
@@Football5198 Sad part about this country is, it's got cowards like the SOB, Eward Small who is comfortable accusing others of cowardice because, just maybe they are too.
You called the POS cop right, a spineless coward
Well obviously he’s a coward and he fears semi auto rifles gun control is not the problem they knew he was a danger and did nothing so who’s fault is it really
That’s not the officer that ran
@@mikethomas9124 yeah?
The whole dept ran
4 years later not a damn thing changed. God bless the victims and families of rob elementary
Changes are certainly needed, but not in relation to the 2nd Amendment.
@@miketexas4549 I mean, it would definitely help.
If there was a god he wouldnt have allowed this to happen.
@@voidinteractive9308 Read the preamble to the Constitution. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights exists to prevent abuse of power. That's why it is necessary for the people to be able to own "weapons of war," - FREEDOM. It's tragic kids died but the Left clearly doesn't care about school safety otherwise they would be addressing school safety. This is all about taking away YOUR right to own guns.
Texas is known for having really lose gun laws and they are proud of it. They should of tighten up with letting 18 year olds get guns. I think it should be until they are 25 and no more military style guns.
Dana Loesch was amazing. The only adult who lovingly told these hurt (and exploited) children the truth. Dana was the calm amid grieving, anti-gun hype and real hatred.
What a fucking joke
@@peachydls341 Zero post.
Dana loesche is the devil
Oh look the cop didn’t wanna take responsibility for not stopping him when the signs were apparent then he just blamed the shooter specifically
Dont forget when shots where fired they cowered outside behind there squad car they just want that sweet sweet check they get
@@michaelbeasley8683 ACAB
That wasn't covered in this clip. Is there a full version somewhere?
I noticed the same thing
Well at least they stood not like sitting in home and posting questions on officers who did their best
Okay so the sheriff is saying the only person that should be blamed is the shooter, but they had multiple reports and did nothing 🤦♀️
Ultimately, the person who pulled the trigger is responsible.
Yes! Passing off blame! And they wonder why people don't trust them!
+CPO that is true, but it's their job to serve and protect, they failed to do so and it's not like it came from left field, the signs were there and were quite obvious. They can be blamed because when you fail at your job you get blamed for not doing your job. They need to take their job seriously and not fail the kids again!
Ashley
If they barred in and took him under custody with the information they had that would go against exactly what you're defending. It's your right to a just and fair trial. Internet comments is not enough justification to raid somebody's home. It's not much different then your right to own a firearm. Your'e innocent until proven guilty 100%
Frosty Cone, right so then bring him before a judge since he said he would do EXACTLY what he did.
18 years old can’t go buy cigs or alc but they can go to war makes sense to me 😂
They can kill 30 people and watch their brothers and sisters die and not even smoke or drink to ease the pain
Gotta love when the government arbitrarily takes rights away. They can start businesses, drive and own cars, make porn and sell their fluids but oooooo no chewing tobacco!
You can by cigarettes at 18....
Idiot!
@@petershanks7607 where do u live cuz it ain’t the U.S it’s 21 brotha
@@IssaSabre716 false
I don't care about your 40 years in law enforcement, the U.S. CONSTITUTION gives EVERY American the right to bear arms. You being a cop, you have to wait for gun violence to occur before you're EVER involved. Go to Congress and quit blaming guns. GUNS DO NOT SHOOT THEMSELVES. Do you want to ban knives, axes, machetes, swords......get educated people!!!
I am for gun control but these people brought Dana there to crucify her, not to have a discussion. Change doesn’t happen this way.
Chanel Smith what a great comment, this is what America needs, not people shouting down others. Respect.
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Go to britain plz with all due respect dont change our country. Our country is the greatest because we are able to have guns and have free speech.
_ _ you make no sense.
@@chanelsmith1693 How this is America if you dont like the way it is leave especially if your not originally from here.
“An 18 year old is not an adult, they’re still in High school”
Well I guarantee that if this dude arrested an 18 year old that had some weed on him or any other kind of crime that required a summons he would be tried as an adult.
nana love tchoutchou I don’t really understand what you’re gettin at. I’m agreeing with you that 18 year old are adults. And in the United States (the country of discussion) it is legal for them to purchasers certain fire arms. I am disagreeing with the officer in the video that 18 year old are not adults and shouldn’t be aloud to purchases firearms. Wo what’s your point?
nana love tchoutchou And in the United States most people who are in Senior year/ Grade 12 of high school are 17 & 18 years old. You are legally classified by the federal government as an adult once you’re 18 years of age or older.
Actually certain crimes can bump you up to adult court and murder is one of them. I'm not sure how Florida works but at 18 you have to work to get it brought back down to juvenile court. He should get the death penalty and maybe just maybe others will think twice.
Jack Brown yeah of course if younger than 18 certain crimes committed you can be tried as an adult. I agree he should get the death penalty as well.
nana love tchoutchou agreed. I finished high school when I was 17 and started college at 18. I consider myself an adult and if I got in trouble with the law (which I won't becasue I don't break the law) I would be tried as an adult. Tbh. I wish the drinking age was 18 lol. If I can get a gun I feel like I should be allowed to get alcohol but oh well haha
Set Up. NRA representative had a lot of guts to go into this circus.
@Jordan Crede that's like saying an infantryman is not brave because he is paid to go to combat. Red herring fallacy much?
automatic guns are illegal in the US unles you have the cash to pay for the licenses
Lmao everybody is on this sheriffs side when he didn’t do a damn thing to protect these kids 😂
To be honest I have found Scott Israel's conduct regarding the entire affair to be peculiar.
He seems to be enjoying the publicity
Exactly and it’s pissing me off!!! Not only the sheriff but the way they are coming at Dana demanding answers when they should be demanding them from the sheriff!!!
you know that the sheriff is the last option when something goes down, right?
This is no Hollywood movie where they know everything at all times and he just can't do something without knowing about it.
If ur guys gun politics are that easy to bypass and he is the same opinion, then he has all the rights to be there and speak about it...
Jade Barao he was the pussy who probably didn’t run in to help the students
This was a gun free zone, I don't understand how this could happen.
Patrick Patterson ikr! Bad guys usually check to make sure there is a gun free zone sign before shooting up a place! Dont they?
If everyone had a gun on them, mass shootings would rarely if ever happen.
Marina Mansfield and my comment was also sarcastic lol
This is all a big joke to you isn't it
crudehaulr No, you’re a joke.
@@RustyMex yeah, if not making light of kids getting shot to death in their own school makes someone a joke then that's me. But still better than the jerk that you are
I love how every cheered for that cop who copied what Dana said and he's also the cop who pussied away from the shooting instead of attempting to save lives
He's not the same cop that didn't go into the school
He's the chief of police he didn't even leave his desk when the shooting happened
His officers are the ones who went into the school to help they should be there not a desk cop
Yo you see those 4 stars on his collar? That usually means he is not a school resource officer.
BLEED GREEN yESSS ACABBBB
The schools need armed guards. I used to work for an elementary school and the schools security guard was a little old lady with a green shirt. When I served jury duty last year, I was surprised to see how many armed police officers were at the court house to protect the people that worked there. If we can provide that kind of security for a courthouse, then we should be able to provide the same kind of security for our schools. The kids in our society are the most vulnerable so they deserve more protection than adults.
Nah. Just get rid of the gun free zones. Allow teachers to conceal carry. One or two armed guards can be bumped off. Not knowing who has a weapon is a big deterrent. Gun free zones are the friend of mass murderers.
Thats not gonna help, would a kid like to see many armed officers on their way to school? It will scare the shit out of them. In courtroom there are security because it’s a private case a right to have a fair trail with no disruption. More guns doesn’t solve the problem bringing fire to fire make it worse, the real problem is that they don’t pay enough attention to people with mental illnesses people who are sick and need help, if they got the help they needed they wouldn’t start a mass shooting and that’s a fact, the gun problem is huge in America there should be ATLEAST a background check on people buying guns, nobody should be able to go in and just buy a gun, I know they can’t just remove all the guns but people are much less likely to kill a person with a knife than a gun, I hope people start to realise that I’m glad I’m not from America.
@@johanneem5861 Do us a favour an stop justifying not put armed guards on schools, there was a Jewish school which received numerous bomb threats from month to month and a shooter pulled up outside the school saw the guard went to the West JCC the most local school nearby and shot it up because there was no armed guard and your excuse is “The kids will be scared” gimme a break there’s many things we shouldn’t be scared us that protect us and our lives everyday
@@johanneem5861🤣🤣
My sons elementary school is only 2 years old, but they have bullet proof glass and there is a police man that stays on campus every day while school is in session. The outside gates and doors automatically lock when closed. Same with the classroom doors. I know its not perfect, but I feel safer knowing the school is taking extra precautions to protect the kids.
Why are they blaming the NRA? It seems like a scapegoat to me.
Sheriff Israel’s department received 45 calls warning about this murderer, including a call from his own mother…The Sheriff’s department did nothing
Furthermore the school had a mental health file on him because he had been telling his therapists about his plans to murder… The school did nothing.
Surely if either of them took action this kid would have been banned from owning weapons.
The cops were then outside while the shooting was happening and decided to do nothing while children were murdered… This in my mind is the most concerning part of it all.
I am not an American so maybe I am missing something, but I don’t understand how the NRA could have prevented this.
Agreed. I really wish Dana had gone for the jugular and called out the officer and the teacher for not doing anything about the ticking time bomb that they were well aware of before the shooting occurred.
Where did you get this info?
Im not criticizing im legit asking
mikey galvan these are widely accepted facts reported on by many sources. CNN even acknowledged many of them here:
www.cnn.com/2018/02/24/us/florida-school-shooting/index.html
A lot of Americans are too divided on this issue to listen to a fresh perspective Nathan.
Yeah. How’d that deputy keep those students safe again?
TheRSSProgram that officer says we keep them safe. Yeah right!
He keeps them safe by hiding outside
He sat on stage and was applauded with blood stains on his hands. What a crock of shit!! It’s a blind world we live in.
Fuck me guys he wasn't the one there. How can you blame him for that you fools.
I can blame him cause it was his men who needed the psych test to see if they have what it takes to protect and serve. All he did was sit up there and join in the bashing of the NRA who doesn’t even make the laws. He sat there and said what would make him most admirable by the CLINTON NEWS NETWORK and their followers. A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link. I can also tell you this, I don’t even think it happened in the first place. It’s all apart of a ploy to make the this a socialist country. One minute they (CNN)make it about trigger happy cops, then the national anthem, about cops not wanting to shoot a criminal, now they blame the 2nd amendment and the NRA. That’s not even most of their list. But before you call someone a fool, step back and look at the big picture, so you don’t become the fool.
Put ppl in a “crazy” and nuts” category and you’ve already failed, seems like no one has any idea about human psychology and how thin the line is between sane and not
A thin line indeed. One is sane until they commit an act of insanity so how do laws prevent physical harm from occurring? Written words on paper cannot stop a physical act of violence. They can only offer consequences for action already committed.
@Michael Cueva nope. Most of us would find a way out of a situation that makes us want to kill. That’s what makes us rational, sir. A little religion might help.
@TH-cam Deleted my Other Account for Mean Comments If someone is truly insane they have no business owning firearms. The problem is that legally speaking it is so easy to deem someone insane these days some very good people would be rejected their right to own firearms simply because of a legal technicality.
As I stated previously, laws do not stop acts of violence anyways. If they did, we would not have millions of people incarcerated for violent crimes. All laws really do is keep honest people honest and give judges a guide to slap a sentence on a perp. Murder is illegal yet it happens all the time. Regulating the instrument of the murder’s won’t stop the crime itself.
Hey Genius, if you randomly shoot up an entire school of fellow students, you are a fucking nutcase, crazy. insane asshole. Bottom line, end of story. Blaming mass murders on "Mental Health" or "Guns" is the real problem. Yes, some people are fucking nuts, BOTTOM LINE END OF STORY. Unless you want to shoot them full of drugs so they sit in a chair drooling their entire life, SOME PEOPLE CANNOT BE TREATED BY ANY CURRENT DRUGS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL TRATMENTS.
I love this thread. Someone finally brought up Psychology which is the mainframe of the equation. Thank you all for your comments. 🙏🙌
“AND USING SUPPORTING DETAIL….”
*teacher voice* I LOVE IT!!! Lol
"No 18 year old should have a gun." No 18 year should go to war either.
Should still require a parent or legal guardian as well.
I mean by what you're saying we should treat 18 year old legal adults as children, right?
Peyton Michelle
Not as children, as possibly unstable humans. Teen’s minds are statistically more unstable as they are still maturing and developing mental stability for themselves.
High school can be very stressful and tense for kids. Bullying and drama are the lead causes of insecurity. The standards kids lay out in high school are sick and can cause individuals to kill themselves (having a nice body, having clear skin, etc).
The way parents raise their kids is the main influence on how their kids act, and given that most high school kids go around doing drugs, getting into crimes, and shooting up schools (not all of them shoot up schools, just pointing that factor out), it’s easily noticeable that most parents are awful and have terrible morals to raise their kids with.
When you combine all those factors together, if you push an 18 year old over the edge, you bet they’re more likely to buy a gun and shoot up a school.
For 21 year olds, this is all different. Your mind is a little more developed, and most kids are not with their parents anymore thus not having their parent’s potential trash influence on them. Also, they’re out of high school, which like I mentioned can be stressful with the school work and students.
Anyways, this concludes my argument. You don’t have to treat them as kids, but you have to recognize their circumstances. A 3 year difference is a lot when it’s separating teen years from adult years.
@@addieeeson that's stupid, if people can go to war and die then they should have all the rights that an adult has
Do you suggest we raise the age of legal adulthood then? What about the mass shooters that are above 18 or 21, what's the solution there?
Crowd acted more like they were at an entertaining live show than a meeting about a very serious and sad subject.
Jason S Hey! You should totally go check out my newest video on the Parkland shooting. If you like what you see, please give it a thumbs up and subscribe. I would so appreciate it ♥️
Jason S liberals are crazy
MikeyMacky conservatives and liberals are both fucking stupid.
Dormin How can you tell? Because they choose an answer before knowing the question. Picking parties is for the weak minds.
You ever seen British Parliament?
"an 18 year old should not have a gun"
But. They can enlist ? 🙄🤦🏻♀️
I came down here to make exactly this comment!
Was thinking the same thing plus i love how a cop is saying that he doesnt belive people should have the right to own a gun. Fucking laughable, hes obviously just trying to shift the blame from the police to the NRA. The blame should be intiaerally on the school system and the police for not doing enough to stop these fucking murderers to even get close to our kids. I speek from experience, my son goes to the most prominent school where i live and these fuckers had the balls to tell me and all the others parents that there 7 foot tall fence and their locked glass door was more than enough to stop a murder from getting into their school. I was thrown out of a parent teacher conference for saying that we need ( not just one) but multiple armed security guards on campass if we want to not only protect our children but to also deter any one with evil intentions from coming to the schools.
Sorry for ranting i just am very passionate when it comes to this topic, because there's nothing in this world more inportant to me than the safety of not just my children but all children. We need to start taking this more seriously amd stop arguing amongst ourselves and actually do what needs to be done to protect our kids. Which simply that, i dont care if we have to put hundred foot walls with armed guards patrolling every square inch of our schools. If thats what it takes to protect out kids we need to do it no matter the cost.
@@austinreynolds8789 So essentially you're saying anything it takes OTHER than passing gun laws similar to what Australia did, and actually works.
@@bobandy13 i never said that. This is why people are leaving the left in drones, all you people see or hear when someone talks ( unless they say what you want to hear) is an attack on yalls beliefs or something. What im saying is that the best way to protect our kids is to literally build school system that bad people can not penetrate. How about we start there and then talk other ways to stop violance. The kids come first.
I'm from the uk ..we had 1 school shooting and then banned anyone owning high powered guns full stop ! we've not had another since .... if you need a blueprint to stop school shootings we have 1 ... heart goes out X
but how many school stabbings have you had lmao are you guys gonna ban knives
@@dannydraco2458 barely any. Moron. Schools are safe places here in the UK. Most of the time, the youths who get caught up in knife crime, were out looking for trouble in the first place.
@@dannydraco2458 They did.
"High-powered guns?" Almost all gun crime in the US is handguns. In the last 100 years, 120 million people were killed by their own governments. Not counting wars. Genocide and democide. It is happening now. British soldiers coming after the Colonials' guns is what started the American Revolution. Hitler got his insane ideas just by reading history. He looked at what the UK and other countries, including the US, had done. And asked why not Germany? FDR had his own race-based concentration camps, and his own Nazi-like master-race medical experiments performed on black men. He also, like his Uncle Joe and Blood Brother, Stalin, forced farmers to plow crops under, as children ate out of garbage cans in the big cities. FDR put known members of the Democrats' KKK on the Supreme Court. No wonder, like Hitler taking the Jews' guns, FDR wanted our tools of freedom. And the Socialist Democrats, to this day, love FDR. They just put another racist Democrat in the Whitehouse. He said allowing blacks in white schools would turn them into racial jungles. He said that in front of news cameras. Churchill also had more than a little racism in him. The Socialist Democrats are killing way over 100,000 could be closer to 200,0000, young Americans every year by letting drugs in from Mexico. About 300 Americans are killed with "assault rifles" every year. It is almost all handguns.
The history of the UK is a history of genocide and democide. You did not stop the Holocaust. American gun owners did. The problem with the US is it took too long to burn the British out of our soul. And it took a Civil War to end the slavery the Europeans dragged to the New World. Although, the Native Americans also had slavery. In the history of civilization, freedom and human rights is a new idea. A government in your part of the world is bombing cities full of children to rubble. Now. Today! America's 120 million gun owners are not bombing cities! And we did not starve millions of Jews to death. Europeans did. Also, "High-powered guns?" Almost all gun crime in the US is handguns! Not rifles.
Using words like "crazy", "nuts", and "madman" to describe mental health illness is so disgusting, just because a person has mental health illness does not make them a killer, smh
Yea he was a fuckin mad man he was nutz and dat nigga was crazy
Exactly, and in fact people with mental health issues are MORE likely to die not kill..
It seems like these mofos don't understand majority of people suffering with mental illness are much more likely to harm themselves than others. There's a difference between a mental health diagnosis and an individual that becomes truly psychotic.
Semantics. She is saying that the situation would improve if there were better regulations on people with mental health issues obtaining guns.
@@Peter.Young21 if thats the case they should ban all violent movies,video games, music.. ban anything that promotes violent. Do you agree?
Y'all Japan hasn't had a shooting in DECADES and their crime rate is incredibly low, maybe we should take notes??
LOL. You seriously believe thats why theyir crime is low? Japan is extremely safe and homogenous society with a population which has great sense of order and discipline unmatched by almost no other society. America on the other hand is the most diverse in all different ways with a unique culture that lives on the extreme edges (which is actually a positive when it comes to creativity). it really isnt comparable
We need to watch more anime. No wonder why Japan has such a low crime rate. Imagine trying to rob a store and the owner gives you a big juicy Rasengan.
Actually, if you look at the gun ownership rate to gun crimes in japan, they have a higher gun crime ratio.
Aileenisweird Japan has a VERYYYY Different culture....trust me I live in Japan😂🇯🇵
Japan let's nearly nobody into their country. That's the real reason it's safe there
The words "crazy" and "mad" have often been used by the public and historically to describe schizophrenia, but school shooters are not schizophrenic they are severely depressed and/or suicidal.
Historically huh historically that term did not exist a hundred and twenty years ago. I do believe it came around with Freud and the idea of psychology. So am I to understand that in your eyes history only dates back that far. That's not following the science
As far as today goes there are hundreds of psychological problems that are covered by crazy isn't there
@@danielrose5258 what exactly is your question
@@danielrose5258 that's not accurate. Crazy doesn't refer to hundreds of psychological disorders it refers to only one : schizophrenia
@@alexandergrinberg5678 wow somebody just doesn't know definition it's an adjective jackass, meaning full of cracks or flaws or unsound. Now that could be used to describe many mental disorders. Mad, means completely unrestrained by reason in judgment unable to think clear or sensibly, also incapable of being explained or accounted. Not used technically but also including a rising from indicative of or marked by mental disorder schizophrenia pops up nowhere in neither definition so once again you're full of s***. Like I said they cover an array of mental disorders because there are many mental disorders that fall within those descriptions. Learn English before you try to change it
I hope somebody lets the teacher know that the AR-15 isn’t a military weapon neither an assault rifle. It’s a sporting rifle for hunting and target practice. There also was no bump stock or fully auto anything in this school shooting…
@kyleweedon5851 - an AR-15 for hunting and target practice? LMAO. The destructive power of the AR-15 is such that there is so much damage to the meat of your kill that it may be useless. And you can do target practice with a .22 at 1/10th the cost for each round. The AR-15 / AK-47 / M-16 class of weapon is designed for only one thing --- ending the life of another living being. That's why military organizations use them.
why should any civilian hold such a weapon unless they're looking to kill a human being? it's madness.
@@nainefgaming FDR and Hitler would agree. The first shots fired in the American Revolution were over the human right to own and carry tools of freedom. Read history books. My World War Two vet teachers are gone. America's 120 million gun owners will never starve as many Jews to death as FDR did. And Americans. FDR punished farmers for not plowing their crops under, as children ate out of garbage cans in the big cities. Look up the Supreme Court case, Wickard v. Filburn, 317 U.S. 111 (1942) Filburn was the farmer, racist, Jew-hating, eugenicist, FDR punished for trying to feed starving Americans! Read history books! We have a racist in the Whitehouse now! He was against blacks in white schools. He said this in front of news cameras!!!
Why should the military have nukes unless they're planning to wipe out other civilizations? It's madness. @@nainefgaming
@@nainefgaming Self-defense, for example... could you please clarify what you mean under "such a weapon"?
She literally said people who are dangerous should not have guns... boos and gets called a murderer. He says the same exact thing... claps and applauded
MJ Jackson that's liberal logic for you
The main reason why is because she’s a spokesperson for the NRA, the organization that’s donating money to prevent gun control for being passed because they keep donating money into politics.
Hubby Bubby the countries that banned automatic weapons, they don't have mass shootings. Your country has had more shootings this year than Afghanistan or Iraq - clearly having guns doesn't help.
Sounds like she's pro gun control honestly. Aren't they on the same side? Anyone knows why they're arguing?
+Caesar316 to be fair I honestly think the US would still have mass shootings even if guns were banned simple because of the culture (and if it's not guns it will be knives or machetes or chain saws or axes, and in fact serial killers don't use guns typically and I'd wager that they're worse than mass killers), although I would hope the culture changes. But you know what wouldn't happen? Little kids accidentally getting a hold of them and putting a hole in their body or someone else's, that's why I'm pro gun ban.
18- 20 year old kids should never have a rifle??? isn’t that a large part of the us military
Right. Pretty ignorant statement, but perhaps purposeful. There are many kids, even younger than 18, who are taught the correct way to handle, care for, and implement the use of the tool that is a firearm. Easy to say, though, to a crowd with itching ears, who want to hear these kinds of statements.
Not if Democrats get their way.
Not the point
C'mon don't be so fuckin stupid! When you're in the military you are trained to use and handle a weapon and you are government property. Goddamn flag waving anarchist (an oxymoron moron). All for one and one for all. Join us or go to hell!
*That's NOT how the military works*
Those "18-20 yr olds" are under constant command of a supervisor, and trained relentlessly to follow that command. There is a reason the first week of basic training is called "ZERO WEEK" - because you know nothing. And you think that is equivalent to a trained graduate? The military disagrees with you.
That's what the 2nd Amendment guarantees: *Right to keep and present arms in the military* . Militia means Military (it's the 18th century word. George Washington was the leader of our nations militia. "Military" was derived later from that word.)
Anyone getting paid by the NRA knows this full well. And they have talking points to dance around it. Any reasonable person should call out the weapons manufacturing trade organization (NRA) for usurping a club for rifle enthusiasts, and turning it into a government lobbyists organization.
Also: when a kid got a rifle their dad trained them for years before letting them use it unsupervised. That is how it *used* to be. And not a damned one of them ever thought it was a good idea to own, let alone give kids access to, todays semi-auto war weapons. Rifles were bolt action, and praised for their accuracy and craftsmanship of the wood stock. *Not* how fast you can shoot-off a bunch of rounds god knows where.
That NRA shill doesn't represent "5 million people". She represents corporate greed.
This is such a bias crowd. How can anyone have a conversation?
ADamage 17 1. guns don’t kill people do 2. People who are too emotionally charged cannot have a conversation. 3. This isn’t a debate it’s a persecution. A debate would include both sides of the issue.
ADamage 17 4. You seem like a very unhappy person. I hope you can get the treatment you need.
@@samanthalee5283, another stupid response. Blonds are not worth anyones time. They can't wait to show how ignorant they are.
ADamage 17 Once again, you seem like a very unhappy person, I believe it’s only appropriate, especially with the topic of this video to recommend for you to seek professional help.
@@samanthalee5283 thank you for the medical opinion Dr. Big nose. Now let me give you my opinion. Take that fake profile pic down and put one of the more accurate photos you have. You know. The ones that show you are obese, have a long fat nose and horrible dyed hair. Don't fake what you look like. It's not healthy. And it's called catfishing.
If 18 year olds shouldn't drink, smoke, or own rifles because they are kids then they DEFINITELY shouldn't be allowed to VOTE!!!
Not to mention, the crowd is not allowing for discussion. That NRA woman really knows how to talk.
Exactly
Bs she on that bullshit
BINK you lack an intelligent argument so you pick on her profile pic, makes sense.
But all she does is talk. Flapping her gums, yet saying nothing
BINK, your whole comment is called a personal attack, and is a fallacie.
- a deranged 18 year old up shoots up a school with an AR-15
- 39 times authorities were alerted about suspicious behavior going on in the 18 year old's household
- the 18 year old brought weapons and ammo to school
- the 18 year old threatened other students with violence and death threats
- authorities did NOTHING
"There is one person responsible for this act, that's the detestable violent killer" While most of the time, I am ALL for emphasizing placing the blame on the one who committed a crime before looking elsewhere for blame, but that statement is just patently false. Yes, the shooter is evil and deserves to rot in a concrete room with no sunlight for the rest of his life, but it is asinine to suggest that this shooting would only have been prevented had there been some sort of "gun control." Authorities failed in many ways, and this shooting COULD have been prevented if certain people had just done their fucking job.
The sheriff is fucking schmuck and the fact that he was able to get away with the amount of bullshit he spewed on that stage is beyond me.
dj he's just trying to cover up the incompetence of the people he's in charge of. It's really that simple
c ball I don't believe so. Would you be willing to briefly explain it?
George B ah yes. Just insult the other side instead of engaging in active debate to deliberate which point of view is superior... said no one ever
This sheriff isn't fit for his job, or a weapon himself. This guy needs to be gone.
Yes, he did deflect blame away from the cops who should have acted. You're right.
But anyway, this is about a nation-wide issue. Changing the behavior of the local Parkland cops would have been good for THIS incident, but it does nothing for the nation as a whole.
If the Sheriff had done his job he wouldn't be having to blame the NRA for what happened.
the officers may have been able to limit the number of deaths, but the shooting would have still happened and kids would have still died. Clearly armed officers in schools wont solve school shooting as it didnt stop this shooting, or the recent one in maryland, from happening.
if the sheriff had done his job when they were called over 30 times about this guy the shooting would have never happened
Todd Massey people were calling because he was shooting... The officers may have been able to stop the shooting earlier, but the shooting would have still happened.
Rosalyn C. the sheriff wouldn’t have had to do that, if it wasn’t for the NRA...
The NRA didn't shoot up this school!! The sherrifs dept DID NOT ENTER THE SCHOOL! Why is a woman who comes to discuss the issue attacked by an incompetent sherrif???
"18 YEAR OLD KID" is an oxymoron.
A male or female is a legal adult once they've reached the age of 18
18-year-olds stopped the Holocaust. Many grew up hunting to feed their families, as FDR was starving Americans. Forcing farmers to plow crops under.
Dana speaks and people boo... sheriff says same thing and everyone applauds. I am floored. Wake up America
Katie D yeah wake up mentally disabled people are obviously just murderers
Gun nuts.
what did you expect? its a democrat trap. All those students had scripted questions. and those that had questions against them, where not invited. Research colton haab,
fucking idiots... more people need more guns in general. you can make all guns illegal and people would still get them illegally and crime would increase like it did in australia.
There reaction was due to what was being said.
The level of disrespect and disorder amongst the crowd is unbelievable.
+Uriah Graves No surprise there....they don't want solutions....just like their political party, the Democrats....as long as they keep issues unresolved, they can find ways to get elected.
SP DevMan here's an easy way to say that, Feminists
+I Kno Da wae That works too. No doubt about it.
Geez guys no need for all that they have a right to be mad but they should not be interrupting the program like they were.
Also free speech goes both ways and whatever
Haha, too funny how the sheriffs quickly says no one is to blame after she pointed out how law enforcement dropped the ball.
No but wait...I thought the gun was to blame???
@Ten Ring I know, right???? 😂🤣 I definitely give Dana props for evening participating in this meeting which was completely one sided. It was so stupid how she brought up probably the exact reason why this school shooting happened to deaf ears. This police guy & the whole district along with the FBI knew exactly who dropped the ball & it wasn’t the NRA.
So there’s a difference between a semi automatic rifle and a handgun that holds 19+1? No. There isn’t. Hands off my guns!
The Sheriff has a lot of nerve to sit there and rail against people when his own deputies sat outside and let those kids die.
I agree. But that still doesn't address the problem of a teenager using a military rifle.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 He wasn't using a military rifle.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 Civilian rifle*
He is woke so that’s all that matters apparently
the sheriff is full of shit
Dana is speaking on everything these kids agree with. They just don’t want to hear it from her🤦🏼♀️
Amen I agree all they want is to vilify her.
Sad but very true.
People kill people stupid not guns CNN arnt you broke by now ???? Fake liers yes it sucks seeing someone get killed ask the dems false flag did it ....disrrspect shut the f... up....
She is speaking truth but her own organization is responsible for millions of death in this country. I call NRA no better than a terrorist organization. All murderers are whether direct or indirect, are responsible. So fuck her and fuck NRA
That's honestly what I was thinking too... Like she even admitted that the system is flawed. Except for she didn't give a simple yes or no answer. She explained what was wrong with the system.
Wears Hazard Suit *Time to go to the Comment Section*
666melodeath666 yep
DragonInferno99 Ω *Enters tsar tank* best not to touch the toxic when entering here
I literally took a deep breath, held it until I saw your comment. Perfect
666melodeath666 got a spare
Politics annoy me
The AR is not a military grade rifle that history teacher needs to go back to school lol
It's amazing how the Sheriff was so quick to relieve himself of any blame when the warning signs were there...documented. Wow. Vote him out!
Thats what I dont understand, warnings since 2016 and nobody got time to get a hold of this kid? wth
Yeah that upsets me the most. How is anyone not upset by that? I am studying at university not too far from where this mass shooting happened and it scared me that the police seem to do nothing about mentally ill people when they're known for dangerous behaviour. It's scary, and that's probably what makes the states so dangerous, that the cops seem to do nothing over the real dangerous people.
VOTE NRA BACKED GOVERNOR'S,SENATORS,CONGRESSMAN AND THE PRESIDENT..OUT..OUT..OUT
Same guy who actively avoided the scene when he was called in. The guy is a joke.
They couldn’t do anything to the kid because they didn’t have probable cause. In our country words don’t equal actions.
This sheriff had over 10 time to ARREST HIM AND TAKE HIM OFF THE STREET. He puts the blame on everyone. So, I call BS ON HIM.
Benjamin E ur right bro that sheriff is a coward 😂
couldnt agree more. they went to his house 39 times and he threatened to kill students and nothing was done
Oh yes, because army, war and civilian life are totally compatible. Just give everyone a military weapon and what do you get?
Benjamin E yea you like how she told him. You guys went to him 30 something times. And fights back by saying oh lets not forget who is the real person blame here which is the gunman. Tried to take the blame away from himself. When he is part to blame too.
Cop -"You should never be 18 and have a rifle!"
The U.S military -"lol"
That cop is strait up stupid
I had a rifle at 12 years old, I had a b.b. gun at 5 years old, I've never been arrested never shot anyone.
The best memories of my life were when I went hunting as a youngster.
@@ronsmith251 right lol as soon as I was 18 I started buying aks and ars and then 21 came and glory fell into my hands as I bought a 9 and 45 😂😂😂
@@whiplash5026 why who's going rob you the FBI ?
@@ronsmith251 Yeah there's no reason you shouldn't own a rifle at 18. That's more than old enough to be responsible with one.
The expression and look on her face at the end when that policeman said what he said, is all we need to know. She clearly doesn’t support his last words.
There has not been one atrocity by a woman using an ak47 field, so, for Mrs Loesch to defend the having of those weapons. Who is your enemy, or can we call a truce.
Because she’s dealing with people who blame guns and not people. If there’s two things a liberal fails wholesale to understand it’s firearms and taxes.
Cop wants to take your means of self defense and says they will protect you. I guess this was pre-Uvalde..
That cop was fired! And for good reason! He did not try to save any children!! You cannot depend on the police for protection! Carry a gun!!
And FDR killed more Jews than America's 120 million gun owners ever will. Most were starved. Read The Jews Should Keep Quiet. By Rafael Medoff.
The crowd needs to chill. Props to the both of them for having a general chill argument until the crowd went crazy.
@Devin Tulloch what would you say if the other side got nasty with them?
@Devin Tulloch so blame them? Sounds like you should of took it up with the Sheriff instead of a spokesman for the NRA. It was the Sheriffs office that allowed it. not the NRA.
People this emotional should not be able to vote, they are not mentally stable enough
I love how you tell them to chill. Their friends and children were murdered and someone is sitting in front of them who has fought like hell to make it as easy as possible to get a gun.
But no no let's show no emotion. If my fourteen-year-old was murdered with a gun and the person was sitting in front of me smugly answering questions in a condescending way I don't think I would have kept myself as calm as that crowd did!
Tell Trump Crowd to Chill! They shouted Kill all Illegal immigrants... I LOVE THIS CROWD... She should put of a VEST and go answer a call of a man with a gun due to little or no regulations in GUN Control!
How the heck is the sheriff who sat there and did nothing going to sit there and instigate against the NRA..... About "protection"
its insane, all these lefty libtards are arguing against the NRA as this great evil WHEN THE NRA FOLKS ARE THE ANSWER!
eric Rosales to get on the mob's good side before they start thinking about how he did nothing
yeah right. Instillating fear in people by saying the crazy left wants to tkae their rights away is the answer;
Bmx Jr - These so called kids and this rabid audience are only ones looking like bullies here. CNN’s Town Hall spectacle was clearly a setup from the start, and was never about engaging in reasonable debate. The things they said to Loesch and Rubio are beyond immoral, reprehensible and completely absurd.
+lexi
fear is victory's fuel
This officer and his dept. were notified about this shooter and did nothing. That cop is out of line
idk if the cop is out of line but yeah the fbi or police department or someone should have done something. Not taking that stuff seriously is why it happened.
Evan thank you and yes this video doesn’t show it bu that lady talks about how the PD there were notified that the shooter threatened several kids and his mother called too and still nothing
Everyone is looking to assign blame . Blame the cops blame the FBI blame the inanimate objects/ guns and blame the NRA . I know these kids are horrified and devastated and the thought of these families losing there children turns my stomach . If I thought banning AR 15's would stop these killings I would be on board with the ban . If I thought laws banning all guns would stop all gun deaths in America I would be on board with that law . If making homicide illegal would help then that would be best of all ? Your president wants to kick 30 some million people off of health care ..including mental health care and yet he blames mental illness for the loss of these kids ? Its a bigger picture folks and sadly this type of thing will only get worse as your president continues the fight to kick people like this shooter off of any access to metal health services .
And they want u to give away your guns and give it to those cops who can't do their jobs
The bigger picture is that all attempts to strength gun laws are shot down. There's a confluence of problems at play here. Chiefly among them is the NRA's oversized ability to influence policy. Also there's a perplexing deluge of people who seem to not be able to connect the dots between the relative proliferation of weapons in this country and immense amount of shootings that we have. Most Americans support sensible legislation. If we came up with a multifaceted approach we could make a massive dent in these events. But as long as people sit back, throw their hands in the air and blow hot air that prevents sensible change nothing with happen and these shootings will only get worse.
Las Vegas is a prime example... were is the sense in allowing people to have high capacity magazines and stocks that allow weapons to fire massive amounts of ammunition in a short period of time.
Where is the sense in allowing a man like Stephen Paddock to buy a bunch of fire arms over a short period of time. That seems suspicious.
Banning guns will not stop mass shootings! It is not the gun it's who has the gun! Bottom line our God given rights do not end where feelings begin
Too many people these days react rather than listen.
Yeah and these are the fair types of debates that CNN is used to.
10,000 - 1 so both sides are represented equally. . .
EXACTLY! A BUNCH OF BANDWAGON FOLLOWERS! YOU CANT BAN CRIME AWAY! G.C. CAN MAKE ALL THE REASONS AND BULLSHIT EXCUSES IN THE WORLD, BUT THE FACT REMAINS ITS IN THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION! THEY LIKE TO PLAY ON THE EMOTIONS OF PEOPLE AND THATS FUCKED UP! YOU KNOW WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN IT SEEMS LIKE THERES A MASS SHOOTING EVERY MONTH, ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE PLAYING UP ANYTHING GUN RELATED TO FORCE G.C.!
IF GUNS WERE ALL BANNED, EVEN ALL HANDGUNS...I FRIGGIN BET YOUR ASS THAT THE CRIMINALS OUT THERE WILL “STILL HAVE THIER GUNS!” ALL THATS BEEN ACHIEVED IS MAKING AMERICA WEAK AND DEFENSELESS! THE WORST PART, GUN CRIMES WILL NOT HAVE CHANGED! PS I WAS FUCKING 18 WHEN I WAS SENT TO FIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY! KISS MY ASS!
@@BOOZEFIGHTER I was 18 when I enlisted in the Army and went over seas just 1 month before I turned 19. If a person can willingly enlist at that age then they oughtta be able to buy any gun they want at that age as well. My suggestion to them is leave our guns alone and just enforce the laws already on the books for a change and get out there and catch the bad guys and leave us goood guys alone!
@@littleshepherdfarm2128 Yes. Very young men fed their human flesh into Nazi war machines until they choked. In battle after battle. And. Yes. The Nazis took the Jews' guns and FDR wanted our guns, as he refused to save any Jews and put known members of the Socialist Democrats' KKK on the SCOTUS. FDR also starved Americans by punishing farmers for trying to feed starving Americans. Young people need to read history books. 120 million people killed by their own governments in the last 100 years alone. Not counting wars. FDR added to that number.
@@littleshepherdfarm2128 Yes. Hitler took the Jews' tools of freedom. Then came the deathcamps. FDR had his own race-based concentration camps. He also went after our guns. And starved Americans. He punished farmers who did not plow their crops under, as children ate out of garbage cans in the big cities. Rural Americans could hunt for food. FDR made that more costly and difficult, too. Also, Biden's son has violated federal gun laws. Why is he not in prison?
So you can be tried as an adult at 18, but you can't own a rifle at 18. The argument that "18 is too young" is literally putting our whole judicial system in question, not just gun control.
Rest In Pasta And they can join or be drafted into the Military and march off to war, if our politicians say so, but they’re not allowed to own a gun? 🤔
But only in USA are you not allowed to drink alcohol until you are 21. Why would an adult(18 year old) not be allowed to drink a beer if they wanted to but perectly fine to go buy a handgun?
and by that logic you can own a semi automatic but not drink? what kind of logic is that? There should be stages. you have to be 18 to vote, and that's the age where you're tried as an adult. 21 is when you can drink, smoke, go to war, and drink, and own a gun.
+Brandon Thompson What about drive? 16, 18, 21, or 25 to get a driver license? What about strippers and porn stars? 18? 25?
@@TheNoobishNoob There is zero in our Bill of Human Rights about drinking! Wow! Also, drinking kills more than guns! And smoking.
I was at school when I found out this happened. It’s sickening. Those students were failed by the people that were supposed to be protecting them.
I had a lockdown drill the day after and it was terrifying. We shouldn’t have to worry about being protected from our own classmates
Happened in 17...
These kids were failed by a money grubbing, violent, weapons that kill three kids with bullets",whoooiho, goes right threw them sprawing and tumbling into the next student..." providers, protectors and excuse making defenders. Pres Eisenhower, a real gop moderate, lastly said inhospitable farewell adres..,"beware the military industrial complex, they will destroy the will of the nations law and order "...think th general president should have been listened too???what was he a gypsy fortune teller?
Maybe if the school had weapons, then they could have defended themselves.
@@laurennittler No you shouldn't. But back in my day we were hiding under the desk against Nuclear attack drills.
Since the beginning of this year we had 135 mass shootings, but only 113 days. That's what the second amendment gets you: more than 1 mass shooting per day on average. It is time to amend the second amendment.
I love how when the lady mentioned all the times the authorities were given tips on the shooter, the officer interjected and ultimately changed the subject. If you KNEW this kid was a danger to others and did nothing about it, you have blood on your hands as well.
You believe that guy is an officer?
It's bigger than the guns. They are trying to instill fear in the youth and generations to come so one day Law enforcement runs everything.
Tom Atos
That guy rocks!
I feel like he pulled a kellyanne Conway there. His response was not even related to her question, which was why didn't the law enforcement do anything about the messages the shooter sent. He started talking about needing stricter gun regulation and even got a cheer from the crowd somehow.
ARosa 72 Go kick rocks
It’s not the kids fault the authorities didn’t do their job, these kids want change and threat or no threat guns are too easy to get and an AR-15 is unnecessary for anyone to own
the crowd was obviously against this woman and she had the guts to sit up there and take these insults from everyone even though her insights and thoughts were not bad. very impressive
Jack Krasny
That’s what us NRA have to deal with.
Ian Kaizer cause y’all are baddddd badddd people
Ally Evans For wanting to be able to defend yourself? Dumbass
@@rchsoo And defending yourself requires an automatic gun with the capability of mass murder?
Whit DoesStuff That gun he used wasn’t automatic idiot
Cop says 18 year old shouldn’t have a rifle yet it’s okay for us to send a 18 year old to war.....
Going to war to help your country is clearly different than buying a guy and keeping it at home lol.
Mexico City so why do we go to war then? Why does the United States have a military?
Yep and my daughter is going to be one of them real soon..she's joining the Navy..
tyler storey BECAUSE ITS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS! There is a difference between killing an enemy in a war and killing a peer in what should be a safe environment
Marty Miata pulse night club in Orlando was a Safe place and 49 ppl were killed look at Las Vegsa..oh that's right guess concerts aren't safe either
Should a 18 year old be allowed to use a rifle to go fight for our freedoms overseas ??
I like how she'll agree with them and the crowd boos. Then they say what she said and they cheer.
Trained clapping seals. Pathetic.
They had their minds made up going into this. Kids are stupid... they don't know shit about shit yet.
@@meesterdinglefritz2064 LOL CLAPPING SEALS!! ROLF!
@Troy and Gunner I actually liked how she brought up the fact that what needs to happen is to make it available to see mental illness from the state & not let it slide by. That has got to be the stupidest thing to allow a state to keep certain papers of individuals that may or may not qualify for the purchase of a firearm. How does that make any sense? & then she went after the FBI & the police district for dropping the ball on all of the alerts for this kid. Of course, like normal, the police guy has to turn it back on her & the NRA. This was a disappointing meeting that, of course, went nowhere which was basically what was going to happen no matter what.
@@amandastokes7545 I could not agree with you more. Careful, these libtards will crucify you for having logic
He literally said the same thing as her and everyone claps...
Thats cause she was lying through her damn teeth and he wasn't.
Kartikeya Goswami how was she lying?
@@TheTeenPop13 She wasnt sincere. Shes a spokesperson for the NRA and they have historically stood against even the slightest most reasonable gun control laws. More than that I can't say at this moment because ive forgotten the specifics of this interview.
@@TheTeenPop13 Yeah so I just rewatched it and basically what ive said is right. She was booed because she didn't seem the least not sincere. She tried to shift the blame from loose gun laws (laws kept loose by the organisation she represents) to the state not being federally required to blacklist certain people. She pulled a complete mike pence and avoided every single question aimed at her. Thats why she was booed, and while I do not normally condone this sort of behavior from a crowd, in this case she really did deserve it.
Kartikeya Goswami How was she not sincere, the beginning of her answer to the question was pretty sincere to me, and these guns aren’t the issue with these mass shootings, Dana was standing for making sure people with mental issues shouldn’t have guns and that was her answer. She wasn’t shifting any blame cause the huge blame is not blacklisting these kinds of people.
You didnt stand up for the kids said the guy whose deputies standed outside the school while this massacre was going on.
Excellent comment
*stood
Nicely said !!
It wasn’t his officers, it was a school resource officer. His officers went inside.
exactly what I’m saying
I have great respect for Dana showing up and maintaining her composure and eloquence despite an extremely hostile and nasty crowd. Even this child, despite being very ignorant and misguided, showed more maturity and respect than most of the adults in the room.
we need to make a clear difference between mental illness and sociopathic tendencies. depression, bipolar disorder and anxiety are all extremely different from a narcissistic personality, borderline personality, etc. behavioral disorders are VERY different. i am sick and tired of mental illness always being lumped in with these sick murderers.
Then that girl and cop shouldn't ever own a gun by logic.
True, I hate how mass murderers now get sympathy because they’re “mentally ill.” They are pieces of shit who deserve to be tortured for our amusement.
@@rickmortar7886 do me a favor and read the constitutional amendments 4-9
The marxist Democrats believe that you're insane if you believe in the bible, if you don't support postbirth abortion, if you believe there's two genders, if you question MSM, and so on.
You don't understand mental health very well then. A sociopath doesn't make someone a murderer, being a narcissist doesn't make someone a murderer. There's a large chunk of those people that live among every day regular functioning people. The combination of these factors with trauma and or mental health disorders is what most of the muderers suffer from. If we had a better mental health system more appropriate action could be taken and possibly lead many of these people down the right path.
The cop claims to have 39 years in law enforcement but yet was too chicken to take down the shooter also blaming on guns.
Gabriel Rodriguez No one will know how to react unless put under that situation. You could be consistently trained but you can freeze because when you’re training you know it’s not real. Also should a cop be put under that situation at all. Should anybody be in a shooting in general. No.
@@ogrtf5898 so what do you suggest? Take away all guns? theres 400 million guns in America. 400 million of those 400 million are unregistered meaning the government doesn't actually know who has what. So if we did pass any gun confiscation who would turn the guns in? Probably most law abiding citizens. Fair enough. Who wouldn't turn their guns in? bad guys. Sooooo how are you making us more safe again? Sounds like you want me to be another victim
SkinnySkinch I do not want to get into a argument but please don’t put words into my mouth. I did not say we should take away all guns. What I’m suggesting is that we take away the right to own automatic guns from the regular citizen because those guns aren’t used for hunting or self defense, their used for mass destruction. Look, we obviously can’t confiscate all the guns in America quite easy, I agree with you on that. But what I’m saying is that we put more restrictions now so remove the opportunity of more guns getting into the hands of people who aren’t capable of handling a gun. People who are responsible for school shootings. And since I’m only taking in account automatic guns there’s only a estimated 638,000 automatic guns in America, making the confiscation issue less complicated.
Gabriel Rodriguez you acting like you would take him on
Paige Tang nobody can own an “automatic” gun anymore. You need all kinds of special licenses to own a full auto gun. The only automatic guns any American can own have to be made prior to 1986. Post 1986 automatic firearms were outlawed, except for those who hold very special licenses. What’s your obsession with automatic guns? Not a single automatic gun has been used in ANY mass shooting on record. All mass shootings are with every day purchasable SEMI automatic firearms. Meaning one bullet comes out for each time you press the trigger. Virtually every gun in America is semi automatic, FYI. All pistols, and the majority of all rifles are semi automatic. The only exception being bolt action and lever action guns which are the old western style lever actions and some hunting rifles are bolt action. The Automatic guns you keep referring to are incredibly rare. To buy a pre 1986 fully automatic firearm costs anywhere from $15,000 to $100,000 and even more for more popular rare models. Again, never been used in a mass shooting in recent history.
So if you’re confused about semi and full auto, and you wish to ban all semi auto guns because they are the ones used in mass shootings, that’s frankly impossible. You’d have to ban virtually all guns in existence.
I think I lost brain cells watching this...
We all did
At least you didn't lose as much as her hair cells.
Garrett Albrecht its like watching dumb and dumber..
Leftists don't have any braincells to lose, that's why they hit the like button.
Garrett Albrecht...Everyone does.
I’m all for the right to bear arms, but no way in hell should assault rifles be legal. They are weapons of mass destruction. It’s not about mental health, it’s about the weaponry. AR’s are war weapons, not civilian weapons. It’s unnecessary to “need” to own that type of weapon.
"I'm a for the right to bear arms..."
Proceeds to not be for the right to bear arms.
18 year old "kids". But adults in the court system.
And given a rifle and sent to war.
“We know how to keep America safe” - Sheriff Israel. Ok, but on his watch 17 died.
Joel Book that's why he mentioned changes that needed to be made
Andy Ainsworth four deputies hid outside of the school when the gunman started shooting in the school. I don’t see them keeping our kids safe.
Andy, the most important change that needs to be made is the coward from Broward needs to STFU!
4 of his officers waited outside for backup and that took a lot of time.
No solution will be 100% effective. The left wants to use tragic events to someday seize all guns. It worked like this in Australia, look it up.
Correct me if I am wrong.... but didn't this highschool chick admit to bullying the shooter?
Michael no she didn’t.
@@kaleym1040 oh. Thanks. Just wondering
"Ridicule him? You guys didn't know this kid! We did!"-Emma Gonzalez
She did. She admitted it and tried justifying it.
@@Mcnail1997 she did bully the shooter. These other two are brain smol
Michael she looks like a marines recruit
Sheriff: I blame the NRA because there should be laws in place where he shouldn't have been able to get a rifle.
Dana: There are some now, his 39 run-ins with local officials and TH-cam comment should have had him under your investigation...
Sheriff: Let's not put the blame on anyone around here. It was the shooters fault.
9:18 - 10:00
What a Fing coward. Red flags everywhere but we cant keep s eye on him. INCOMPETENCE IS STRONG WITH THAT ONE.
When I first started watching this, I did not know she was the NRA spokesperson. I was confused why the crowd was booing her, from the things she was saying, because she sounded more like a liberal on the gun argument - and so I assumed the crowd was the opposite. Then the crowd cheered for the survivor when she made her comment. Then she explicitly stated she was the NRA representative, and I realized what was going on.
Holy crap. They are saying the exact same things - the concept of more gun control, of making sure "crazy people" don't have access to guns. Sure, maybe the NRA isn't all like her, but you can tell that this woman came prepared to not be listened to just because of who she is, and who she represents - /even if she completely agrees with them./ They did not come here to have a discussion. They came here to villainize someone and express their hatred and anger. They were not listening. No matter what she said, they were not listening. And she was saying the same exact things they were saying: that the system is flawed and background checks aren't working.
This is scary.
You have a right to be angry when a wrong is done to you. But if you go out trying to actually fix things, to make the world better, you /have/ to work with what you have and make alliances. They could have had an ally there. But instead they let their blind hatred take over to express their fury at a woman who had said nothing wrong and they knew, really, nothing about.
That is really, really scary. Roars of accusation at people who did not cause their pain, blind to logic and reason. It feels like a witch hunt.
Please, if you want to fix things, don't let irrational anger burn you out and all your possible bridges. Think what will actually help in bringing about a better world so that what happened to you will not happen again to others.
Thank you. They weren't even listening and clapped every time the PO spoke even though he avoided her question towards him.
TheShadowPillow:
Basically you said:
When I first started watching this, I didn't even read the title. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
This scares me too. Honestly if we didn't give a shit about political sides and actually listened, I mean listen not hear, then we could accomplish a lot of shit.
Left wing blows things out of proportion, paints NRA as monsters they are not. Just look at this woman, the NATIONAL spokesperson for the NRA and she is in no way SUPPORTING the distribution of semi-automatic weapons to dangerous citizens.
John Grit you’re quite the hypocrite aren’t you.
if you want someone as important as an ambassador of the NRA to listen to you, don’t yell at her and let her finish.
Listen to what??? Her bullshit??? Wtf is wrong with you???
For real. It always comes down to a screaming competition. Kind of like the comment section.
Katie they really don't want solutions so they don't care to discuss anything.
NRA should take the lead and become part of the solution. The NRA is only concerned with money and politics, not lives.
CNN tell you that?
The sheriff said an 18 year old should never have a rifle, that's too young! What about all the 18 year olds in the u.s. military that have lost their lives defending our constitution and our freedom? I am in no way defending or down playing what happened.
In most states 16 yr olds can hunt
@@robertbarocas8889 they can hunt but cannot purchase a firearm. A firearm may be gifted down to them from a immediate family member like a father or mother, but they cannot legally purchase a firearm.
Exactly. The sheriff said an 18 year old is a kid, so why are they tried as an adult when they commit crimes? Why can they get married? Why can they buy tobacco products? Why can they vote? Why can they join the military? Why can they get drafted? Why can they drive? Why can they watch porn? Why can they be in porn? Wouldn’t that be considered child pornography? Are they kids or adults? Pick one. Don’t make them kids in certain circumstances and adults in others. Your logic is flawed sheriff.
Except for the 18 year olds who are taking bullets in the army and Marines?
Yeah, because they are in the fucking military.
@@GreatBigRanz exactly they are, and they shoot machine guns and throw grenades and use lots of other very effective weapons. And they can join at 18. Military or not you want them to fight for your rights except the 2nd amendment? They can fight for all these rights at 18 they can use those rights they've fought and died for at home too at 18! GTFOH!!!!
@John Licon absolutely not! I was an Air Force cadet in college (didn't work out after a failed physical so I will never claim service but I did try). All branches deserve respect in my book. Even the squids. My sister was Navy so I will probably hear about that.😂
When we get invaded and don’t have enough troops to defend our country I bet youll change your tune real quick
Sheriff Israel, didnt mention his 4 deputies who stood out side the school! Nor how the shooter was reported to his department 39 times!
Timothy Hall completely denied the question.
Your comment has 39 likes:o
nicholas cato have you ever bought a firearm?
Timothy Hall of course he didn't. he's up there trying to save his ass.
jesse generoux 45.
Somebody needs to rip the badge of that cop. You're supposed to support the constitution, but like many other cops he either doesn't understand the constitution or he's decided to actively work around acknowledging and protecting people's constitutional rights (including the 2nd amendment). Way too many cops trample on people's rights and care more about power tripping than being true peace officers who try to make communities better. Not to mention, look at all the big cities with the most murders and gun violence; THEY'RE DEMOCRAT RUN CITIES THAT DO EVERYTHING TO TRAMPLE 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS, which leaves law abiding citizens defenseless to criminals who could care less what laws are written. People are so stupid, including way too many cops.
Wow this was really nothing but an anti gun rally. She answers your question with an answer that was in your favor and you shoot her down. You boo her when she asks "Don't you want to take guns out of the hands of crazy people?". You ask the crowd to be quiet so you can hear her to make a rebuttal to a statement she is making on your side of the arguement. These children should not be allowed to debate adults. Then Emma screaming for the teacher to speak after the sherrif has just reiterated what the nra lady said but this time the crowd cheers because he is anti nra. Lol this whole circus is just one big joke
The amazing thing is how misinformed these people are. They think that gun control will solve their problems and are completely missing the underlying problem; the fact that so many of these kids want everyone around them dead. I'm a Canadian, up here the legal age for everything is either 18/19 depending on your province. An 18 year old here can get a license and do the exact same thing, sure we have round limits but you can still get pump shotguns with 8+1 capacity, handguns with 10 rounds, and 22lr in fully sized magazines. So where are all our shootings? We have 1/10 the population but have nowhere near 1/10th the amount of school shootings that US does. Why? Culture. I envy the Americans when it comes to their gun rights, I do, but at the same time I can clearly see how much of a double-edged sword it is.
+Ray Zala absolutely
the whole point of this WAS an anti gun rally. Doesn't matter how you title it, if you have a school shooting survivor talking in a room full of liberals there's no other outcome than this
Yes, that's true, and I feel as though I stated my response poorly. Thank you for bringing this up.
These people want to be heard but they do not want to listen. If no one is willing to listen then everyone is wasting their time
Jacob Terry no one wants to listen to weak arguments
María Serbán which is why gun control advocates are not listened to. They have a weak argument
Jacob Terry yeah she is giving them their answers but the truth hurts 😂
Jacob Terry excellent point !
No one wants to listen to the NRA or politicians continually defense of the $$$ that’s setting their agenda rather than LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE. THATS WHAT DEMOCRACY IS FOR AFTER ALL
The audience was too emotional. Like a wwe audience. They just wanted to hear what they wanted to hear. But could u expect to have control or basic respect from this audience toward her? Prolly not, she got herself into this.
@@elielsaf3362 being a survivor dosen't make you a policy expert. To revoke 2nd amendment privileges and certain weapons because people with bad intentions utilize them for bad things is like castrating all men due to there being rapists and sex offenders
Is it a "her"?
@@elielsaf3362
You got schooled son
This was literally days after they were shot at. They lost their friends, classmates, children, teachers... of course they’re emotional
They were emotional because Dana avoided the question.
This police officer is delusional talking about how he takes weapons away from people. Those people were not meant to have a firearm. There’s no reason to take away firearms from those who want to defend themselves and their loved ones and not wait for the police to do it.
Wow. The cop took 0 responsibility of law enforcement. He did not acknowledge once that this shooting should’ve been prevented by the FBI and local police.
No, it's not. Especially when the kid's been reported multiple times to the FBI with his first and last name.
Joshua Smith - and dont expect every nut job to be identified before he gets his hands on a gun...its like a needle in a haystack. guns dont kill people, wack jobs do.
It's the school's fault
Yeah I noticed that too. He danced around that question really blatantly and obvious
Joshua Smith that's their job,to protect