Asking Scousers about Rishi Sunak and the Tory party
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- We went to Liverpool for the TUC Conference a few weeks ago and while there, took to the streets to ask the people there what they made of the government.
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I was just a boy across the pond when the Hillsborough tragedy happened. Despite my youth and the limited media coverage of an event so far away, I learned two very important lessons in the aftermath:
1) Never Buy The Sun
2) Never Trust a Tory
They have never been untrue.
The alternative is much worse and we have enough history to know by now that if labour get in the country is in far worse hands. Just because Torries haven't worked for you doesn't mean they don't work and the alternative is better. Hard times don't mean bad management as hard times can hit anyone. You have to judge people on policy and labour is clearly living in a fantasy world and although Torries sound evil they are the only people that can possibly help us get out of this mess because at least they are realistic if not boring but when you're running a country you have to be unfortunately or fortunately. You do what you want but when the system falls further and further down because of labour maybe one day you will realise that you are fighting for the wrong side and not all Torries are arrogant assholes only thinking of themselves just logical to protect oneself first before then help after as if you're hurting how can you help anyone. Common sense.
@@uttercolgs1798 While I'm no fan of the current... or any Labour government in my lifetime, I am curious what the hell people like you are smoking who still hold to this line that somehow Labour is worse than the Tories. There is an argument to be made that Labour is no better than the Tories, one I'm more than sympathetic with, but suggesting for a second that the country runs better under Tories?
Lol.
LOL!
LMAO!!!!!
The biggest criticism of the last Labour government was that they did Tory policy:
- The Iraq War, Tory policy.
- The Financial deregulation and housing bubble that led to the collapse in 2008? Tory Policy.
- The bailing out of banks that led to Tory Austerity? Tory Policy.
- The start of privatisation of banks that led to the current day issues with the NHS? Tory Policy.
How can I say this? Because if you bothered to look at the voting record in every one of these cases, the Conservative Party voted for them UNANIMOUSLY! That's right, there were more MPs in the current majority Labour government at the time who voted against every one of these policies than there were Conservative MPs who were supposed to be in opposition.
But I'm probably wasting my typing time here, because if you can't see by now that the core of virtually all of our modern day problems is Conservative ideology, an ideology that, despite what the media, papers, online shills, and many Conservative voters themselves think is a result of some "Woke leftist superpower" despite their guys not only being in government, but winning nigh on EVERY election, vote, and policy they've wanted to change in the past 13 f-ing years, then the odds are you're too far gone to be reasoned with.
You should have learnt ‘ don’t trust the police’ as well.
And never trust the police
Yeah never trust a force keeping the peace in the land! Fight the system for tyrannical justice! 💪💀💀💀💀
Always loved Liverpool, and I always will! ❤
Always hated Liverpool myself but that's because I support Everton. Up the Toffees.
ROFFLMFAO! 🙀@@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769
@@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769 your city not your team soft lad
@@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769Everton is in Liverpool you donut.
@@briancohenthepfjmassive.4769😂😂😂😂😂😂 allways bitter 1995 allways be in Liverpools shadow.
Always impressive how awake the people of Liverpool are
We've had to be since Thatcher.
Nothing impressive about the people ofivetpool booing the national anthem a while back
@@tenniskinsella7768
They love being the victim.
I moved from London to Sheffield, wish I had moved to Liverpool, here in Sheffield people seems to be in hibernation, even when I tell people your problems are the Tories, but they just stare or change the subjects, people seems to fall for Tory bs here in Sheffield.
@@jinankalo9386
What a simple world you live in.
Correction. The Tories do not care about anyone except the ultra rich.
That's unfair, they care about the very rich too
The Tory Party is a Trade Union for the rich.
They don't actually care about the ultra-rich, they only appear to insofar as the interests of the ultra-rich and the tories are aligned. They only care about themselves and their personal grifts.
Doesn't change with the red Tories I'm afraid 😟
Labour do not care about anyone except the ultra rich , Sunak and Starmer are besties , and don`t ever think they are not
Not voting is a vote for those who are benefitting from your apathy.
Not voting is taken as acceptance / satisfaction with the sitting government.
the Tory party hates Liverpool so much that in 1912 Winston Churchill had a warship with guns pointed at us from the River Mersey
It had a number of Tory MPs until the 1970s and a Liberal controlled Council in the 1990s. The idea of Liverpool as a socialist bastion is wide of the mark.
🤣🤣🤣 good old winston
Fuck me, that makes you 111 years old..
The army shot 3 dead in churhills gunship days also some were hanged for the general strike protest back then
@@JanMan-qk4ic The General Strike was in 1926. No-one was hanged in relation to it.
What a terribly sad situation we are in.
Liverpool won’t vote Tory as they have sense
Liverpool we love you bless and respect 2 you all
Got to become more politically active! Just backing away and not bothering wont fix anything.
Young people owning a home? Im 30 with 50k in the bank, so I will be putting a big deposit on a flat soon
We tried that and they smeared us as "antisemites" and turned the alternative into a Red Tory party. What do we do now?
@@LeeCharles1993 Good, you're boring enough to want to live in the same place for 30 years. Congratulations, you're a great, wee, saver.
In all fairness, neither will trying to fix anything.
Do you know how many on the Left have been expelled?
Sunak probably doesn't even know where Liverpool is
Obviously it's in the between place after watford gap and before you hit the sunak's shooting holiday destination
in the far north called 'scotchland' where the distilled taxable spirits come from...
You know, Liverpool is obviously in the t'North somewhere near that bankrupt council from the news- Brummingham.
That's all the geography you need to know
Drivers and pilots know the finer details
why would anybody need to know where somewhere is eif their jet can get them to the place
(and once they land they can buy a car for their driver to chauffer them to the more specific places
[if there ever comes a public appearance that will help with the polls in one of those far off places])
*sigh* some people ask some damn fool questions...
Hi Michael, I’m pleased you saw my message,I have been to Liverpool , many’ times and the people are always friendly and welcoming.
My grandparents both welsh speaking and lived in Birkenhead ,we had use the ferry to Liverpool in those days .
We are just hoping for a Labour government next .
All the best to you,
Martin Cheeseman.
Sunak might see it from his helicopter?
Nonsense! It is just south of Scotlandshire!
My home town making me proud! Though that bloke praising Thatcher in Liverpool is taking his life in his hands! 😂😂😂
He’s a southerner tho, to be expected
@@leonardosamuel94 Fair one! 😂😂😂😂
Labour run city’s are some of the worst places in the entire country including London and Birmingham
@@sigmaputin6888Ever been to Liverpool?
Did he not mean starting with her?
The interviewees all seem like lovely people.
not. Very apathetic
What, the man who said "the country hasn't been run properly since Thatcher" while standing in the middle of Liverpool? Lovely?
Another good video PoliticsJOE. The gentleman with the baseball cap & tattoos made an incredibly powerful point about how much money the EU contributed to the UK for research, town regeneration, other projects etc. The CONSERVATIVES are all about conserving & not spending unnecessarily which is why so many parts of the UK economy are going to absolute shit. Sad times indeed.
It's pronounced conservethemselfs.
Liverpool wouldn't exist if not for the EU
There truly are sad times ahead. Even if Labour get in it'll be more of the same. Thatcher sold the UK and sold British politics along with it. Most politicians are in it for themselves, taking the cream from their corporate puppet masters. The UK I was born into is long gone, the Tories have utterly ruined it.
The Tories only invest where the investment has already been invested. Hence London getting everything. Though even then London gets shafted if something doesn't directly benefit the Tories or their donors.
No such thing as EU money. Its UK taxpayers money, and some of it we got back.
Not voting is not the solution. If Tories get back in, not voting may well be the action which let them in again. We need to get away from 1st past the post but notice Labour dropped that idea as soon as it seemed they could possibly win comfortably without it.
You do realise "tactical voting" is an insult to democracy right? I don't see the logic in "tactically voting" for a red Tory party...
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One's vote should be of party policy, not for one's vote to be decided by a website.
I suspect he was a Corbyn supporter. Who gave Johnson an 80 seat majority and called it ‘a moral victory’.
The Labour left didn’t like Wilson, nor before he hugely won in 1945, Attlee, effectively with their union activists put in Thatcher over Callaghan. A certain Len MaClusky said he was proud of his part in the Winter of Discontent.
Nor Blair, in opposition that is too.
In other words, they don’t like ones who could win.
Who have to appeal beyond this core of a core vote to do so.
@@tomtom-gi9eoThen first past the post is an insult to democracy. Tactical voting exists because people can't vote how they feel because FPTP inevitably results in a two-party system. It'll always be a "who's least worse" competition until we have proportional representation.
@@tomtom-gi9eoyou do realise that in a first past the post system, sometimes democracy is served by tactical voting to remove a corrupt government.
I'm in the south now but I did live in Manchester and I love Northerners... straight to the point, no bullcrap... just honest, decent people and I say that as a Southerner that was brought up with the whole "fake posh" attitude. Keep being you Manchester and Liverpool, real cities for REAL people. My husband is from Birmingham and he is down to Earth as well, my parents hate him.
Yeah man I am from the south and I used to be a right snob about the north until I ya know... actually went there! Amazing friendly nice people lol!
@@TheBanana93i guarantee you that 99% of people living in those cities would move or at least relocate to the outskirts if they could afford to.
@@kingflixmovies837 Not been to Manchester or Liverpool lately? They are way better than they were in the 90s and early 2000s, much better than most Southern cities now, especially Manchester, which is one of the fastest growing cities in Europe. Decent pay and bigger and cheaper housing than the south.
Unless you’re very rich in the South, you have a lower quality of life than many nothern places. So to think you are more posh in the South is very deluded and uncultured.
Respect to the people of Liverpool.
Why?
@@lestrem11Because we’re the salt of the earth that’s why.Liverpool for ever we love Liverpool.
@@DianeD862 Yes ,but nobody else does child. You never hear anybody say bad things about Newcastle do you. ( A pleasure to visit, never got raped or shot once).
@@lestrem11 Just out of interest, how many times were you raped or shot when you came to Liverpool?
@@viperzvapourz4738 Well, I was threatened with a gun in the afternoon and in the evening I was threatened with a bottle. Still, I found a nice Indian restaurant and they were really friendly.👌
Bless that chap with the cap. There's more wisdom in that short clip than the last 50 years of mainstream media combined.
You are witnessing Dunning-Kruger syndrome
aye im lucky to have the same viewpoint and im only 34 are people a bit slow here?
As scouser and life long Labourite the comment about Michael Heseltine is I believe true. I was around in the 1980s and I know people who directly with him and assured me that his repeated visits and efforts to do something to turn fortunes of Liverpool around - in spite of Thatcher's efforts - did appear genuinely genuine. He appears to be the only one.
Hesaltine just brought the garden City thing on the prom.
Now people are dying from bone cancer as houses were built on the giant rubbish tip that stretched from Aigburth to St Michael's .
Try thinking Heseltine was a Thatcherite through and thtough
I remember
@@cdean2789and he was a remainer. He cared about the country
He actually stood up to the Witch over her stance. I do believe he had the City's interest at heart... somewhere.
Like most, "Tarzan" has his good side. But just don't mention 'Westland Helicopters' in his presence !
In any sane country Sunak would be in prison ... in the UK, he still is the prime minister.
Truss and Johnson should be jailed. Sunak keep him on bail with a suspended prison term if naughty again😅
You are simply jealous. Stop being a failure and make a success of your life like he did. Good luck child.
I like Amess the best.
@@lestrem11 Sunak has given out over£700 billion of tax payers money, most of which was given out with no analysis as to where it would end up. It ended up with the largest jump in wealth inequality this country has ever seen! £26 billion lost to fraud, an NHS being destroyed by privatisation, schools falling to bits, students forced into so much debt they'll never pay it back, a cost of living crisis (caused by multi nationals and greed), Truss tanking the economy and causing millions of us to endure high mortgages and huge rent hikes, businesses going bankrupt and closing up and down the country, councils going bust, homelessness reaching epidemic proportions, PPE contracts to tory donors and friends...the list of his failures are almost endless. This country is in tatters. Sunak has only benefitted the 1% of super wealthy that back him and his insane ideas.The man has no mandate and wasn't wanted by his own party.
bUt He'S tHe MoDeRaTe OpTiOn
I tHoUgHt hE'd Be MoRe SeNsIbLe…
Liverpool speaks for many cities especially if its north of Watford. Well said.
Liverpool and the north of England being dictated to by Westminster is really a joke. Millionaires and apathy for people who wouldn’t know what a fiver is.
I love Liverpool I've spent a lot of time there. Some of you contributors need to give their heads a wobble. We need to throw the tories out and quick. Meanwhile anybody who doesn't vote because they have lost faith in the system is a vote for the tories which is deluded thinking.
Spot on, we need to kick the Tories out end of.
Liverpool should become its own state.. make themselves their own country. Proper realists and overall nice people
It would end up like CHAZ/CHOP in no time.
Scouse Republic
What a damming indictment of the state of our nation! So sad to hear and see! 😢
Thank you, Political JOE.
Great analysis from the people of Liverpool.
That is why I love 💟 the scouses, they don't take any bulls**t and say it, as it is, respect! 👊🏼✨
Weirdly the rest ofthe country think they are a bunch of Neanderthals…..?
I think the person with the microphone should have pressed a large number of people about why they think the way they do. This was just softball
@@borandiUK Maybe asking a Liverpudlian to comment on social political awareness would be wasted breath?
“The Scouses” 🤣🤣😆😆😆😆
@@End-Result Yes , Harry Enfield was spot on, that is why it was so funny.
The scouser,s were being very polite. 😂😂🐱.
Voter apathy is something the Tories will count on. We have to vote. I believe we need full political reform. Isn't going to happen, but, we just can let the Conservatives back in!
Quote - We have to vote.
Vote for what? The same old sh@t? Sounds a very clever thing to do!!!
We must reinstate the democratic socialists.
no we have to grow a set of bollocks and get nasty. We're a nation of forelock tugging cowards. Direct action.
If you can't vote for any party, you have to spoil your ballot. Doing so will be counted and show that people are not happy
@@PeterPete We have to pressurise whoever is in power for Proportional Representation, or we'll be forever stuck in a two party system, run by offshore right wing billionaires. Labour offer nothing different from the Tories at the moment. Tax the assets of the super wealthy. Any party offering that deserves to be listened to!
I relate to Scousers far more than I do to the Londoners I grew up with.
Not voting is a vote for the Tories.
I'll vote green then.
True today as when I first heard it in 1979
@@jake751Then it will be a vote for the Tories.
@@iangascoigne8231 it really depends on the specifics of your consituency
@@longnoseboi Well if it’s a choice of if the greens can win or Labour can win, I’ll take Labour because they have the best chance to win the election and form a government.
Liverpool seem to be very switched on with the state of affairs
Well done Liverpool - they not only speak the truth, but echo what the whole country thinks.
Nah not the whole country.
The brexshiteers voted for Boris.
The old codgers voted for Boris.
They gave us 5 more years of Tory hell.
The ones that didn't vote conservative are the only ones that knew the truth.
bolloc,s professional victims. Everything is the tories fault 24/7.
@@MrHennoGarvie But it is, we're in this mess because of the tories.
Writing from Liverpool: Even Labour politicians in Liverpool are sell-outs. We have a few (Paula Barker and Ian Byrne) who are traditional "old school" Labour - but neither of them will get any role in Starmer's goverment (if he wins). Also, in the decades prior, we had centrists running the show and they were despicable but the people of Liverpool still voted for them because they had a Labour name attached to them.
The reason why nothing will change is not because of the politicians. It's because the electorate are too dumb to distinguish that they're being screwed. That's why we end up with the Tories again and again because the Tories convinced the electorate that Labour will destroy the country. So, the Tories won and look what happened. They destroyed the country.
Remember. We had a choice the last election. Corybn wouldn't have allowed nurses to wear bin liners as PPE. Corbyn wouldn't have allowed COVID to run rampant in care homes. Corbyn wouldn't have allowed Labour donors to earn billions from dodgy PPE contracts. Corbyn wouldn't have allowed 3.8 million people to have been denied furlough. Corbyn wouldn't have partied during lockdown in No. 10 Downing Street. Corybn wouldn't have allowed energy companies to pocket billions during a cost of living crisis. Corbyn wouldn't have allowed raw sewage dumped into our rivers and sea.
Yet, the utter morons in this country saw Boris Johnson utter some unquantifyable words ("Let's Get Brexit Done") and they voted for him and gave him an 80 seat majority.
Corbyn would of been ousted within 6 months oa a general election win
How about voting Green to "do a UKIP"?
I think it's important to recognise that although it's easy to just blame the electorate for being dumb, that's not really the whole story. Yes a lot of people voted very stupidly - but why? I don't think it can be because they're all fundamentally bigoted morons. That feels reductive (and untrue).
Instead, remember the two big drivers behind stupid electoral choices: systemic underfunding in education leading to poor political savvy particularly in more deprived areas, and right-wing tabloids blasting specific vulnerable demographics with vicious lies and propaganda day in day out.
An electorate that consistently votes to screw themselves and the country they love over doesn't just "occur", it is purposefully painstakingly crafted into being.
We need to be compassionate towards these people, listen to them and talk with them and understand why they've ended up where they have. That's how you change minds. Particularly because, at the end of the day, humans all want the same basic things in life.
@@geoffdavids7647 unfortunatelt the newer politicians are only interested in one thing - themselves - no matter what colour rosette they wear
🤔 If you don’t vote than you can’t complain or criticise what you get. Apathy solves nothing!
You got my 100% agreement on that. What we need is for all the people who have become disillusioned with the system. To use their vote and vote for minor parties like the greens. Upset the apple cart. Witch would be a stepping stone towards smashing established. Status quo . Only then will we get real change in this country
And the false equivalence that got them to that thought stings a hell of a lot too.
They really are not just as bad as each other one side has been far more sinning than sinned against in how they have made the country hurt
Can't complain? Abstaining IS complaining. If you do vote and your party gets in THEN you can't complain - because you voted for them.
It's politicians' responsibility to give people a reason to vote, not the electorate's responsibility to vote for something they don't believe in.
People who don't vote are often the opposite of apathetic because they have higher standards than the people who do.
People who don't find anything worth voting for should be allowed to save up their unused votes and to vote multiple times when there is something finally worth voting for.
That is what they say to keep you in the game.
@@benjaminallyn1200 I’m pretty sure I wasn’t offering anything other than my opinion.
American here- people of Liverpool tell it like it is and I respect them, I feel their pain as we’re going thru hell right now✌🏼
The scoucers always get it right my grandma lived in Birkenhead,near enough!
that old boy at the end. he comes towards the end of his life and sees his country in such a shambles. it's heartbreaking.
yes agreed, people like him who helped grow this country, he has given up, and i cant blame him, there is no light at the end of the tunnel
Many of the elderly wish they were dead and yes very sad that they feel their demise is for the best.Very sad indeed.
Tories have a lot to answer for. Toxic government.
Liverpudlian sense. It’s a nice thing to see. Well done Liverpool!
I'm voting for Tories all to be sent to Rwanda, in small boxes, several boxes per Tory.
The prison boats with legionella will do for most of them..
Rwanda deserves better than that.
Why do you think being sent to Rwanda is a punishment?
Thatcherism and neoliberalism are the same thing. Only when the electorate understands the crises in UK society and the economy have been forty three years in the making is there any chance it can be reversed. That will also entail rejection of Starmer's adherence to neoliberalism in the form of copying Tory policy. Thin gruel will not do.
Except for a couple of problems with taking that line. In order to get a Labour govt? Starmer has to tred a very fine line so he can get people who would not ordinarily vote for Labour to do so. So he has to be very centerist. He can't count on winning seats in Scotland or NI, he hasn't got the "kahki vote" Atlee had. He doesn't have the swarm Bliar had. So he has to toe a very centerist line else he'd just give the Tories another 5yrs in power.
They would run out of storage if they interviewed me.
Not voting means no change and more Tory governments......at least with a Labour goverment change is possible
At the very least, they'll be desperate for our approval if they don't do as we ask
What change are you actually expecting? Ones realistic with money, the other thinks there’s a magic money tree which we all know there isn’t which will make us worse off in the long run. Stop falling for the nonsense the opposition spout. It’s down to them why schools are crumbling, it’s down to bad luck that a pandemic hit and the conservatives were unable to actually follow through with anything there manifesto pledged. I honestly believe if they get in, us up north will genuinely be worse off than ever before, it’s not worth a risk just to ‘try them out’
@@LennyCole96Keir Starmer is desperate for your approval? Have you watched anything that's happened in the Labour Party over the last four years? Keir Starmer couldn't give two shits about what you or any other Labour voter thinks, he's right where he needs to be for Keir Starmer.
This comment is borderline false advertising... A vote for Labour is one of change correct, but not of policy only in colour from blue to red...
#RedTories 🤢
A change to Labour is only different snouts in the trough, nothing else.
Tories and liverpool, we are talking merseysiders here, salt of the earth.
Some great interviews with lots of really well informed Liverpudlians!
Withdrawing your vote is ultimately counterproductive. It may make you feel like you're sticking your finger up at "the establishment", which will only last about 5 minutes. The reality is that you've allowed the people who do vote, to impose their will on you and everyone else, as the FPTP system does not take none voters opinions into account. If you want better representation, then you need to do the hard work yourself to be able to tell the bad ones from the good - and vote accordingly! We're in this mess because people don't vote
Partly correct. Not voting is considered acceptance of the sitting government.
I’m same, I don’t vote either, no decent party to vote for that truly thinks of the people
If All of Britain was like Liverpool, we’d be a fucking superpower which is good for the world
More like eating rats in a council house, thieving of people
You would have to stop them shooting each other and breaking into their neighbours houses first.
@@lestrem11Oh wow an isolated incident and you think that's how all of them are?
@@lestrem11 ahh nothing like an ill informed ignorant stereotype from someone undoubtedly never stepped foot in the city to brighten your day! Bless!
@@lestrem11brought on by poverty don’t forget. And there’s no crime or violence in Manchester Leeds Glasgow Birmingham Newcastle or London.
Fochin dich edd
How wonderful to hear people who really seem to understand the truth of the political landscape! Every single one of these people had good insights to share, and it was a refreshing change.
The truth? Jesus Christ. God help this country. “Helping there billionaire mates”..you do realise that without these billionaires who contribute towards circa 30% of our tax burden we’d be a hell of a lot worse off? Time to get real.
@@mcshocked6407 So which statement can you prove is untrue, exactly? There is *evidence*, for instance, that Rishi Sunak’s family stands to benefit from many of his policies, including rolling back on green policies, scrapping inheritance tax, and the India trade deal. Helping his billionaire mates, who then keep most of that profit in offshore accounts (where it does not re-enter the economy) or plough it into buying up assets so that there are none left for everyone else. Is that “real” enough for you?
And re: the tax burden of the richest 1% - why do you think they have such huge wealth that they are required to pay large amounts of tax? Could it be because they are 1) underpaying their employees, 2) failing to invest in infrastructure so that more money can go to shareholder dividends, 3) getting government contracts they don’t deserve because they’re Tory donors, or 4) own vast portfolios of property which they can then charge extortionate rental rates for. I mean, there are others ways in which they have basically accrued their wealth by stealing it from the poor, but those are some of big ones for ya.
@@mcshocked6407 Source please? Because you're regurgitating a pile of shaite from the right wing rags.
@@Melissa.Garrett 1. Sunaks wife’s dad is the 649th richest man in the world..my god. Am I supposed to be surprised that he had some how got shares in huge companies across the globe which then you go and call ‘corruption’..You can’t be that dense Melissa surely?Sunaks not even been in power a year and I’m meant to believe he’s corrupt to the core and scored all his mates work? The same that was said about Boris and probably Truss for a month she was in power? Get a grip 😂
2. I can’t even be bothered, I suppose you want a share of a company for working there a year or a wage that falls inline with company profits? Again, are you that dense that’s what you believe is fair? If everybody got paid more, all that would happen is your standard price on goods would increase to whatever ridiculous wages we are on which again..would mean we are no better off.
I can’t actually deal with this way of thinking, it’s just absolutely absurd. Get in the real world.
Sunak rolling back on green policies is absolutely the right thing to do, you think we’re ready to scrap petrol/diesel cars when no infrastructure is in place? Get real, it’s ludicrous to think we’re even close to doing that even in the next 10 years, we’re not even capable of handling the small amount of electric cars on the road now. I suggest you get on the road and have a look at your current service stations instead of clearly sitting in an office space in a big city somewhere with no real clue of what reality is really like…
If labour get in power and give somebody a contract, il quickly label it corruption and shout from the rooftops about something I know nothing about..get the drift?
Ludicrous. Socialist. Way of thinking Melissa and it’s no good for your health.
@@blazzz13 what are you on about, source? Go and educate yourself, it’s not that difficult. This is the problem, you all don’t want to learn, you’d much rather say “nah that’s not true””fuck the rich” when in reality they do more than bad for us all in the country. Pushing them away will make the struggle harder. Again, time to get real.
Feeling sorry for the Scousers as a Manc myself. Liverpool has been very much mistreated by the Tories for around 40 years.
As a Lanky I'm sorry that we lost both of you from the county. We're a miserable remnant without you. I wish we could unite again.
@@alisonwilson9749Feeling sorry for the Lancashire people too, hope you would some similar good stuff like publicly owned transport
Manchester has been crapped on by the Tories too in that time period (from a Scouser)
@@FranzBieberkopf exactly - i wouldn’t vote for them, they are more London central thinking to put more money rather than investing in the money equally to London.
Apparently, we are just fucked.
The 'not voting' idea frustrates me, if you don't vote the Conservatives will almost definitely get in and then what? Unless you propose some radical action and are able to mobilize the disaffected then we'll just get the tories again.
Please VOTE
If you are happy to be responsible for yet another transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich then you go ahead and vote. And just so you know Labour are now Tory light, have been since Blair and his NEW labour. The only way NOT to encourage the bastards is NOT TO VOTE. If enough of us stick two fingers up at them they will have to rethink things because it can't carry on the way it has been going for at least the last 20 years.✌✌✌✌🤔🤔😮😮🙄🙄🤢🤢😮😮🙄🙄🤔🤔😎😎
Women fought their backsides off to get to vote
If you care about your current situation - vote.
Voter apathy is a massive concern - hopefully Labour leadership see this. On one hand people say, 'for some reason people keep voting for the Tories' and on the other they say, 'don't vote' - which is really just a vote for the status quo. The Tories have beaten the vote out of you - and I say that living somewhere where the incumbent Tory has a huge majority, is an utter disaster and an embarrassment. But I'll still vote - I guess Lib dem in this area - because if we stop believing change is possible, it never will be. I hope they're more inspired by the time an election rolls around.
Born and bred Scouser', although spent my life in South Africa. Returned in 2014 to care for my Nana and Mum. Liverpudlians have SO much more in common with South Africans. I'm proud to be a "ScouseAfrican"!!! Best of both!!!
Yep 2 dumps side by side , both lawless and poverty stricken .
Not voting won’t change a thing. It will keep them in power, if anything.
Labour is voted majorly by working class/poorer people. So, I’m sure they would be forced 100x easier than the tories. We need change.
I’ve just signed a petition demanding a general election. I’m not from Liverpool but was at university there, love the City of Liverpool & the people. Vote Reform.
Unfortunately you have as much chance with your petition in getting an early general election as we have of Hunt remaining Chancellor, which is pretty low.
I'd be very happy to get an election this side of Christmas but I'm a realist & I definitely would NOT be voting reform
Politics is not about getting what you want, it is about preventing what you least want. The Tories want anti-tory voters to stay at home on election day.
great stuff my scouse pals from Bolton
As a proud scouser hated Thatcher she set out to destroy our city and it’s gone downhill since then. Always been Labour and trade union member and love our city and its diverse people
Yes really diverse, unless you have a different Political outlook which is not left-leaning!
Let’s be honest Labour controlled Liverpool management managed to do that all by themselves 😊
I feel his despair but just hold your nose and vote!
Hailing from across the pond, I didn’t think I’d have so much in common with the wonderful folks from Liverpool. We too have a big election next year and I don’t think my country can afford to give our version of Conservatism another go at governance. The one thing Conservatives seem very skilled at doing is persuading people to vote against their own self interests.
Well said friend 👏👏👏💯🇬🇧
>The one thing Conservatives seem very skilled at doing is persuading people to vote against their own self interests.
No different than Liberal parties then
As we see now in the UK with the imported cultures from the middle-east clashing with Jewish people and a phenomenal spike in anti-semitism.
Nobody wanted it, but people definitely vote for it.
These lot seem sensible and nice people shame we have not got more of them across the country
The old chap on the cap saying don't vote for any of the party's because they haven't got anyone's interests at heart apart from there own interests to keep themselves in power and get richer is 100 % spot on,, and if enough people took his advice and didn't bother voting,,eg if it was 100% turnout and everyone spoiled there vote, then they would have no choice but to listen, that's the only thing I could see that would drive significant changes to have a fair political system for everyone.
They wouldn't listen though. If two people voted tory, and no one voted for anyone else, they would say they had a unanimous victory.
@blahblahblah563 you missed the point .
@paul8161 you said if people spoiled their vote, they would listen. That would imply that they have listened up until now. Which they haven't. Spoiling a vote would probably work in their favour. Your point of a fair political system would be ideal, but politicians don't want fair. They want whatever benefits them. Spoiling a few votes won't do that. We need something more substantial.
If anyone says 'I won't vote' then the parties will all say, 'fine, no point trying to get his support, so we won't waste our time listening to what they want'. That's how it works, like it or not. Anyone who doesn't vote has zero right to whinge about whoever wins, or anything they do. Spoiling your paper or not voting has the effect of voting for whoever wins. Which is why the right wing parties push that option onto the dimmer individuals who are left of centre voters, via the tory newspapers.
@alisonwilson9749 interesting post,, I kinda think you missed the point of the original post/ point, if enough people didn't vote,, eg everyone,, yes unlikely, but could happen, then the main 2 party s wouldn't really be relevant and wouldn't have any public support so there not really representative of the public, that was the point.
Every time someone chooses not to vote, its a vote for the torys. I wish people would get his through their heads.
To not show opposition is to assist the oppressor.
It's happening in front of our eyes watching this. The media.
Well said Liverpool people. That’s the thing in England 🏴 they have no other politician party to vote for that’s why I have to vote SNP in Scotland 🏴 I can understand the independence thing for Scotland 🏴 come and join us Liverpool and get into the tories
I've said this for a long time. Scousers have more in common with Glasgow (and Manchester 🤔) than any other places in the country.
@@bft2388 some parts of Manchester and more so the "shires" that surround Manchester are awash with tory voters unfortunately because they have been brainwashed into believing that their enemy is not the government that keeps shafting us all... from Land's End to John O'Groats, but instead people on benefits and people in small boats. This is where is a lack of education, political and social awareness is in these areas really becomes apparent.
The only thing that's not making you worse than America is that you at least still have socialized health care, even if they are running it into the ground.
Not voting is not a solution...it just lets the Tories back in. However the current Labour party need it pointing out to them that they are being voted for as the least worst option. This pandering to the thickoes in the Red Wall who let the Tories in last time has got to stop. memo to Starmer...you can't make Brexit work, any more than you can make cancer work. The only solution is the excise it. Props to the good folk in my home town for their no-nonsense good sense.
Not voting is the only peaceful solution 👍
Preaching to the choir. But lovely to see
8:31 That's exactly what I feel, I think this country is now a sinking ship and the politicians are just filling their boots while they can.
It feels really hopeless. Good on you voices of Liverpool, you nailed it on the head. Although nothing feels as bad as the tory party and maybe Labour is a change the country should try.
Liverpudlians speaking absolute sense.
apart from saying they won't vote.
@@yetidodger6650no, they didn’t. One man said that. Stop misrepresenting what people say. The tories do this all the time.
Hey scousers - if you don't want to vote for labour, the greens will welcome you with open arms ❤
Signed, a very fortunate brightonian
Been voting green in Liverpool since I moved here nearly 20 years ago.
There is no point voting Labour here, they haven't been doing well enough locally to warrant the majorities they get.
Voting Green is my way of putting a rocket up Labour's arse, if only more would follow suit...Maybe they will.
The greens are more right wing than the tories.
They were or are a disaster in Brighton.
In Germany they support nazi AZOV and right sector .
They have been infiltrated like the rest .
All crazy liz Truss types
Wasted vote in a GE.
@@tonycowin no it's not, it depends on your area. In Liverpool in 2019, labour won 76%. You can make the case any vote is a wasted vote because the election is incredibly unlikely to swing. But the more anti-labour votes, the more of a message it sends. Liverpool is not turning Tory any time soon.
@@outofideas42 So you admit it's a wasted vote by explaining how it's not a wasted vote.
Not voting is idiotic! You want chickens to run the country - oh, we're already there I hear you say! We, as a nation, are always going to be in the poo-poo - just depends who's running the place as to what length of wellies you buy!
yup voting has done a lot the past 40 years, boomer. The idiot is you because you actually believe your vote is worth a fcuk when the system was bought and paid for by the very arseholes who prosper from it.
Also FPTP makes voting worthless.
If people want change they need direct action. The electorate growing a set of bollocks and a moral compass might help too.
Did you find anyone for the Tories in Liverpool?!?! 😂😂
I would never ever vote tories
Love the selection of interviewees, ordinary people speaking about the reality of British politics.
I've said this time and time again Rishi Sunak is for the rich people not for the working class and this reporter should go to every city and town in the UK and ask these questions again well done to these people for speaking the truth and the facts.
So many people are moving away from UK to live abroad .
I may live the other side of the Mersey but I class myself as a proud Scouser everyday of my life. I love our city and the people in it. Never trust a Tory never by the scum newspaper (if you can call it one) and as a blue Justice for the 97 YNWA.
Don’t vote for anyone? That’s how you get Tories.
No vote is a wasted vote.If you want change you need to be part of it.
That bloke in the cap with neck tattoo was so switched on! good stuff!
People that don’t vote always seems to be the ones that complains the loudest!
IF U WANT CHANGE..you have to VOTE THESE PEOPLE OUT!!!
Having read the comments I'm horrified and saddened but understand how 13 years of being downtrodden by austerity has beaten the proud people of Liverpool into a state of apathy. They have lost hope. I'm Scottish but I was staying with a friend in Liverpool at the time of the Toxteth riots. They were a spirited bunch then but they've had the fight knocked out of them. But it's not just Liverpool. This voter apathy is rife throughout the country. I understand it but you must not give in to it.
Not voting or voting for just anyone but the Tories still lets them in as it breaks up the opposition votes. Vote for the party with the best chance of beating the Tories in your constituency. I'm 74 and I know from experience going right back to the 50s that things are always better under Labour than under Tory. I believe that Starmer is walking a political tightrope because the system is designed to favour the Tories and it takes a concerted effort to get rid of them. Remember Corbyn? He had fabulous policies but he commited the cardinal sin of losing the election. Result: they didn't get done because he didn't get power. Britain rejected him. It only takes a relatively few voters in a given constituency voting the wrong way or not at all to let them win. Tactical voting is the last weapon you have left to beat them. We can hope that Labour will improve things. We KNOW that Tories won't.
As a Scot, for the sake of full transparency, I won't be able to follow my own advice because my hope is with independence and I owe it to my country to vote SNP in order to show Westminster we mean it. In its own way that is tactical voting. It will be a de facto referendum. The English are not under that constraint so what I've said is how I would act if I was English and I'll have to live (or die) under a UK government until then. It's always the English that decide who governs the UK because of sheer weight of numbers (85% of the population) so I have to rely on you to vote responsibly. Or you could always come to live in Scotland and support us and reap the benefits if we're successful.
We haven't had the fight knocked out of us at all , far from it , the 1984 Minera strike broke the back of the Union, that was the fight knocked our of the workers , Liverpool will never roll over , not now not ever , another thing- when thatcher gave tbe nod to the Hillsborough cover up , we had most of the uk accusing and judging us , Glasgow and Ireland stud with us over that period, now we kook after us we'll never forget or roll over ,Scouse Republic! YNWA
@@JanMan-qk4ic I'm glad to hear it and I didn't mean to disrespect the people of Liverpool. Really, most of what I wrote was about the whole country. Liverpool was just the story that sparked my wanting to write about it. It scares me to see how many left wing supporters are putting perfect before the good and threatening to risk losing to the Tories again just to make a point. It's never been so critical that it doesn't happen.
😔 the damage to this country by the government is so sad
Well, as a retired person from the the north, I have worked for 25 years in the south of England, I have now returned to retire in the North. The difference between North and South UK, it is like two different worlds, Government in London, is for London and the home counties, the rest of the UK is a different world for them, the farther you are away from London, the thinner the money trail gets for local infrastructure. And I have to say, even though I have relatives in the South, the average southerner cares about themselves, the North is an alien place place to most of them, as long as they are alright, everything is OK. Sorry but i do not trust Labour to keep to words they say, we need some new parties that care about all of the UK
love Liverpool good people
I'm a Brummie and Liverpool is easily my favourite city in the UK. The people are wonderful and they make the city what it is. My spiritual home.
My view on the political situation as it stands right now - I am an ex-Tory voter up until Cameron and I'll be honest, I wasn't that politically savvy. But when I look at what the shambles of ineptitude and corruption the Tory has become especially under Bojo, I could no sooner vote for them than fly in the air flapping my arms. I just want them gone.
I wasn't a fan of Corbyn or the Labour party but at least I see Starmer as being competent and gives me the feeling that he would be less destructive than any of the Tory lot. I'd vote for Joey Deacon over any of the Tories. Unfortunately, if you want the Tories gone you have to vote the bastards out because there are plenty of people that WILL vote for them. Too many people NOT voting was a huge part of us leaving the EU. We could end up with the Tories in power again if people don't vote tactically against them.
Just vote the parasitic f**kers out. We as a nation decide who runs the country. Use your vote wisely.
A lot of people don't know that you can put down on the polling card than you have no confidence in any of the parties and it should be counted. Ngl mate Corbyn was the last chance this country had to actually have a decent human being in power. A true socialist, but if you don't like socialism i can see why you didn't like him.
If you think Labour is the answer you are completely nuts. He favoured Davos over Westminster
@@bar10ml44What has this got to do with getting shot of the Tories? I don't think you get the point I was making.
As he said, Westminster is tribal. Davos has a far wider gamut. No global agenda is going to be set by navel-gazing in Westminster; since we exited the EU we have as a nation lost a significant amount of power that came from being a leading figure in the EU. Westminster is castrated and has no real power any more.
Liverpool used to be a tory city before ww2. The majority of the population left, when we joined the EU its ports were on the wrong side of the country.
Wow, lovelyand sharp-minded people! Solidarity from Germany, don't give up at some point things will change ✊
This is a city that has no Tory councillors and doesn't read the Sun. Shows, doesn't it...
What an absolute state of a country when voting for the lesser evil is your only option. it does feel very much like the UK is in terminal decline where nobody has any real solutions. I love my hometown Liverpool. My beloved father and mother would haunt me if I ever voted tory. Both losing there jobs under the evil witches managed decline of the city.
They are all very eloquent. An amazing city, so undervalued,
All these people have got it. Voting is entirely pointless
That's not what they are saying at all...
Vote tactically, and vote for a party that wants to introduce proportional representation (PR). As long as the UK has a first past the post voting system, nothing will change.
8:39 This guy talks about a few of the problems that the UK has but then tells people not the vote for any party. That's pretty much asking for more of the same then. It's a shame that politics has disillusioned many people like this.
Use your weapon , use your vote . Vote to remove these traitors , vote for ANYONE but the 4 main partys . VOTE, use it or lose it
voting this way will result in a tory government. Right now, unfortunately we only have to options. Labour or Tory. [Hopefully this changes we we drop FPTP] ..Use your vote carefully. Vote ANYONE but the tories
@@dj_cakes Labour , Conservative , Liberal Democrats and Greens, are all one party . we must vote for ANYONE but these 4 partys . They have stolen democracy from us and we must take it back by voting , by voting them all OUT . Don`t ever think that your life will be made easier if Labour win the next election , Labour do not give two hoots about you or anyone else . Believing a single word that comes out of the mouths of these traitors is very foolish indeed . wake up
Lord Michael Heseltine & Sir John Major cared about, progressed & helped Liverpool. We need them to return.
What about Kenneth Clarke?
Nobody mentioned REFORM UK and yet many would say they are the country's only Party to offer a very clear strategy as to how they would address all the major issues now facing our once great country (many of which have been created by the 2 major, traditional parties).
They’re Nazis. End of.
I’m with the gentleman with the blue shirt and hat, probably the best advice I’ve ever heard
There's a terrible sadness covering the whole country and it's it's so loud it's deafening.
Who the public are finally waking up i hope
Every one should Vote for Jamie Webster man 👨 for the city he would shake the lot up in Parliament we should get a petition up Vote for Jamie .He’s Brilliant 🤩 he’s fantastic.Liverpool we love you 😍.
That just about sums it up.
Amazing points