Amazing comparison. I thought A sounded better and I thought for sure it was the amp. So pumped that it was the Dream 65 pedal becaus eI just bought one.
The shimmering tails on the amp reverb gave it away, but I honestly preferred the Dream 65 for every example...it's so clean and powerful dry, and so dingy and gritty when overdriven.
The reverb gave it away for me, the spring tank sound is very distinctive and something I love about the amp. If the reverb were off it would have been very difficult to tell the difference. Great sounding pedal
I think one of the best uses for something like this would be running it through the effects loops of an amp or into a power amp and a cab. That would be my use. I love my Mesa mark iv but it doesn’t quite have a fender clean sound, but a lot of the saturation of tube sound for me comes from big clean headroom with a pushed power amp, so I’ll imagine that brings this pedal to life
Riggs, will you please explain what we are hearing. I assume the Dream is a direct recording of some kind. For this type, how are you listening to it? I assume you use studio monitors. For the real amp, it looks like you are recording using mic's. It seems like the right comparison would be to compare the mic'd studio monitors and the mic'd amp. This seems to be common on reviews of any kind of modeler by all TH-camrs. We seem to always get a computer recorded version but that isn't what we would be listening to when practicing. I'd be surprised if this pedal through a monitor sounds anything like the real amp. I am interested in buying one of these but I think I would need a power amp and real cab or some kind of FRFR speaker. Please comment.
I get what you’re saying - I do like the way it sounds with studio monitors! I think the direct sound is a good representation of how it sounds through studio monitors, and I would be happy to practice that way. Personally I’m more concerned with the recorded direct sound since that’s what it would sound like live or on a record, but I get what you’re saying! I think you’d like it.
A sounds fantastic, but I feel like you can hear a little bit of the room in B and that’s the giveaway for me. Feels like you can’t go wrong with either it’s just whether you want convenience or the actual feeling of the amp in the room pushing air.
I think a big factor is whether or not your sound guy/venue will even let you have an amp on stage/run it at a decent volume. And if you travel a lot, especially flying, and you think both examples sound great, then the Dream is a no brainer!
I own a hand made Deluxe Reverb. It’s my favorite amp of all time, bar none. I thought A sounded better in every example except with fuzz, but I would happily have used A or B regardless. The fact I got it “wrong” and actually preferred the pedal blows my mind, but what a great thing to discover.
It was really clear to me from the go which was the amp. On the clean sound the pedal has that slight DI sound. Honestly I still haven't heard any emulation that can completely replicate an amp.
@@siggisiggo80 agree completely. Would much rather have an amp for live use, but sometimes this works better for recording quick ideas or layering into tracks. All tools for a job!
Great video. I got it wrong. I’ve been playing for a long time. Owned two DRRIs at various times as well as other silver and black face fenders through the years (and many other tube amps). Just picked up the Dream yesterday. No regrets!
If you just use a little bit of reverb normally, the Dream 65 can do that. If you like more ambient reverbs and being able to have more control, definitely get a reverb pedal!
This was a very good demonstration of just how good the UA Dream '65 is. I have seen other similar demos and they all come out the same way, the Dream '65 is indistinguishable from the real DR. Amazing technology. Amazing pedal. This kills Iridium, etc. In fact, it kills the real DR when quiet is imperative. I must have one. Thanks for a great vid.
I know this is an old thread, but as I get more into the UAD ecosystem, I keep digging these up. Great comparison and really shows just how good the UAD version is. But, I guessed it right LOL!. There two things that listening to this with decent cans revealed to my old ears: One is cleaner to me, but only by a hair. Two, the reverbs. The second one just had more of that springy kinda vibe happening, I think they call it "drip"??? I dunno. But again, fantastic comp, I can easily see myself picking one of these up soon.
Thanks man! Yeah, real spring is SO hard to get right. Let’s also keep in mind that (to me) the reissues sound VERY different from a real vintage Deluxe Reverb. They sound good, just different. I think UA did a great job with this line!
I also assumed that clean B was the amp because of the reverb. Has someone who doesn't have any experience with a fender deluxe reverb, i wouldn't have known otherwise. Great video.
This video helped answer a few of my questions. I've always been an amp guy, but I have to go direct in these days, so I'm building a board with that in mind. I was concerned how it would take pedals, specifically dirt, and ease of use. I've heard great things with Tonex, but I want to avoid computers and downloads if possible.
The Tonex is great too - I want to get the small version (Tonex One) to keep in my backpack in case of emergencies. This is great if you want to avoid computers for sure!
@RiggsTaylor Thanks for the perfect comparison in different situations! I liked A the most and I was sure it was the real amp, so in the end was surprised how good Dream 65 is. btw, can you share your settings of the Dream? what cab and mod did you use in this video?
I could tell that A was the pedal because I think there was a slight amount of high end distortion during the "clean" segment of the video.... probably coming from your audio interface and or DAW...I own a Dream pedal and am still figuring it out and tweaking....👍😁
The fuzz tone gave it away, at least for me. Sounded much more natural on the amp. However, I’m sure that difference could be compensated for with different settings on the UA or the Fuzz pedal or both. Clean (which is how I’d be using the pedal) the difference was almost undetectable. Impressive job by UA.
I actually think I prefer the fuzz sound from the Dream in a mix, but that’s definitely the most noticeable difference. I agree- they knocked it out of the park!
In the first second i knew what was the amp...and I'm not a guitar player,the reverb and the room told the truth,the amp is smoother,the pedal is to exact,for some people that worx,if i was an uad engineer i would put a diffusion button on the pedal so u could go from that clean digital pedal tone to kind of foggy smoother amp tone
Thank you, it is different but I was finding myself preferring the Dream! I had a strong feeling that the amp was B though! Question, so how does it "feel" and play live on stage in a venue? Thanks again.
I really like it and have gotten great feedback from FOH engineers about it! I prefer the Kemper in terms of modelers, but for the money the Dream/UA amps are the best bang for buck. Much prefer them over the Helix/HX stuff.
@@RiggsTaylor Hey there, thank you for your input. I watched some of Kemper videos as well... very nice indeed. Versatility would be nice although I have always been a one amp guy (was a Maz jr, now a Tungsten, Cream of Wheat, or FYD Big Verb) with peadls. So I not sure how much I would use all the sounds. Do you have just a couple you use or MANY different Amps that you use live? Thanks
@@enaugle1 I use 2/3 amps per gig on the Kemper, but definitely opt towards a simpler setup. The Kemper Player is honestly the perfect solution for me live. The Dream is great too though.
Amazing comparison! you got a new subscriber. btw, how did you record the pedal? I want one to replace my Fender Blues Jr for quiet practice. DI box? Direct to the interface in High Z?
@@RiggsTaylor Hi! I watched your video again and bought my own Dream65. Any specific reason to connect with an XLR connection? Is it going as 'Mic level' into the Apollo Twin? I plan to connect directly to my Zoom Livetrak-8 as 'Line Input', since the output of the Dream65 is 500 Ohm.
If you're recording direct to your computer, surely the sound in the room will very much depend on which cab you have. I quite fancy one to go straight to pa, but then I'd need a cab for home play. I have a dr.
Knew right away that A was the Dream, but that's not to say that it didn't sound really good. There's just something a little more 3d and dynamic about both the overall gain feel and the reverb with B, the amp.The Dream sound is still absolutely workable and much better than most amp sims I've heard.
I could tell the Dream was the Dream because that’s what I’ve been using for the last month or so , so I’m pretty familiar with how it sounds. Had I not been so familiar with the Dream, it would’ve been impossible to tell for me
Great review mate! Didn't care about which is which actually 'cause they both sounded awesome! I'm getting mine in two days, can you tell me if you use trs cables to connect from the pedal to your apollo twin? Or just Ts cables, i'm asking 'cause UAD always say not to plug in Ts cables in the combo jack/xlr inputs of their apollos. Thanks :D
Same Suhr ML’s in the neck and middle, but a V70 from my old Suhr in the bridge. Tone is rolled off on that one because it’s brighter, and I have another ML on the way to make it a complete set!
@@RiggsTaylor Thanks! Thinking of doing the same with my HSS. (Although I must say that I recently got one of the Paulownia Classic S HSS with a DSV that is my new fav H after trying SSV, TB, TB+, Asatobucker and TBII!)
@@melbindas3819 the ML’s are definitely my favorite. Since I do a lot of different styles of music, I need some thing it’s a little bit more full sounding with less high end, and that set does it really well.
I hear some kind of crackle in clip A clean almost imperceptible but I notice that. I can´t ear it in the clip B clean. I am thinking if it is electrostatic noise of the pickguard...
I'm waiting for my pedal to arrive. I clarify that the sound is incredible and that's why I bought it, I'd rather have a single amp that sounds almost identical to the real thing than a digital multi-effects with 200 amp, cabinets and submenus... Also, in my country it's almost impossible to buy a real Fender Deluxe! Excelent work!
Interesting observation! Could be electrostatic noise. And I’m with you - I’d rather have something that does one thing well than something that does a bunch of things, but not as well. Enjoy it!
A sounded so familiar to me, have been playing modelers for a few years now and I don’t remember how real amps feel/sound 😂. Now do you think UA have leaped forward in modeling technology beyond Line 6 and Fractal?
It’s different, hard to say “better” but I personally prefer it. This is still just one amp style though, and the benefit of those units is having a ton of amps/effects in one.
Great comparison - they both sounded wonderful but I was able to identify the amp simply by that unique mechanical "clank" you hear from an actual reverb tank when you hit a hard staccato chord.
The Greenback! It’s my favorite on the Dream really. I like the Oxford for some stuff, but it seems like a less-broken-in Oxford than what is in my ‘67 deluxe reverb.
Yeah, a MIDI option would be cool, but I’m sure they weighed the pros/cons (added cost, probably larger footprint) and figured this would be the best for the most people. A more “professional” version with those options would be cool to see. As an Apollo user, that would be cool! I imagine it would take a lot of power to make it viable, so not sure if you could have something this high quality in a plug-in format. Not an engineer though, so maybe I’m wrong 😂
Both sounds great. Could for sure identify the amp. Well, just amp like. The pedal was a little “too much”, still sounding great though. I think you could adjust the pedal a bit, to get the last bit of good old amp juice out of it. Great video…
@@RiggsTaylor absolutely. A/B tests are always tricky. They both sounds great on their own. So its not about good/bad or right/wrong. For the first time ever I’m ready to try this UA out. The only unit (to my ears) that actually sounds like the real thing and with out this strange digital vibe the others always have. 😀
Thanks man! Vol: 9:00, Rev. 3:00, Output 12:00, Bass & Treble 11:00, just a hair of the D-Tex boost. I used the G25 speaker because that’s what I’ve been using the most live. The Oxford model I find to be brighter than my DR, but I also find the speaker in mine to sound better than most oxfords 🤷🏻♂️
So the clean tone has a little push from the boost? Which boost is this? Can’t quite figure out what d-Tex is. Did you have the boost in when you added the klon for the dirty? Great sounds! You got more out of the pedal than most. Sounds thicker.
I listened to the clean sounds, and thought A was the pedal, B was the amp. I liked the amp a lot more, but the pedal did sound very nice. I don't know how to describe this, but the treble and bass of the amp sounded more "unified", more like two parts of a whole. The pedal's treble and bass sounded more "seperate", more like two discreet entities that didn't have an effect on each other. I don't know if that's a good way to describe what I heard and felt; maybe calling the amp more "organic" sounding would be a better use of words. BTW, I just finished up using a Dream '65 in an Off-Broadway show. When the show ended I bought it from the production company, and I look forward to experimenting with it at home; maybe even on gigs someday.
That’s rad! Yeah, really good way to put it I think. I use the Dream live often and really like it, but I’m always taking the real thing when they’ll allow it 😎
I thought A was the amp since I preferred it in almost every clip, but the fuzz clips made me think that B was the amp because it clearly handled the fuzz better to my ears. I don't care much about fuzz tho so Dream for the win!
Wow. I’m shocked. I was sure A was the amp the whole way through because I thought it sounded better and took the fuzz better. I just got a Dream this week. I love it. I only have that and a Rat for overdrive. I’m selling my MX5 from Headrush because the Dream has an excellent clean sound and it’s so easy to use. No need to mess with Hz and whatever. Only thing I suggest is an eq pedal which I’m getting because when you play loud through a PA it get very pitched. I think they should patch it. An eq pedal after it should do the trick.
The clean sounds were extremely close but the dirty sounds were a further apart. The Dream got way dirtier than the Deluxe. Maybe that's a headroom thing? But yeah, but sound fantastic!
@@RiggsTaylor More mid-forward you think? Oh and do you think these will begin popping up in recording sessions or is that never going to be a thing in that world?
@@SunnyvilleMusic yeah, it’s a bit more mid forward. I definitely think people will record with them! I know I’ll use it a lot for videos and tracks when I need to worry about volume management, or am showing off a stereo pedal.
Clean I actually preferred the pedal - I ordered the dream right away - but destorted the Amp sounds 10 times better. The pedal sounded very digital and unpleasant with higher distortion. That's what digital pedals still can't get right. ;-
Interesting! It’s definitely tighter sounding, maybe a bit brighter, but that could be dialed out I think. The brightness can help in a band mix though. I usually have to add a bit more treble than I would opt for in an isolated guitar track.
Agree. Fuzz and spring reverb are really hard to get right, but honestly I think UA captures the feeling/vibe as well as any modeler I’ve played. I think the Kemper does a better job with pedals, but that doesn’t mean it sounds as accurate. Regardless, not bad for under $400!
I'm cheating with the tc electric 65 deluxe amp in a box. I have a cab modeling device that I go into and after the tc, it has 9 cab simulations, then I have an Ibenez tube screamer I have a vibrato pedal before that, if I want vibrato. I had all that other stuff before I purchased the tc electronic 65 deluxe and it makes the tc sound spectacular. I still might get the dream at a later date, it sounds great and I like that it's stereo but for now I'm really happy.
By the way the dream sounds amazing in your demo. I noticed the difference in the clean sounds. The amp is just a tad smoother sound but once you start adding pedals it was almost impossible to tell them apart. I had the 65 deluxe reverb reissue, I sold it about 10 years ago. They've gone up so much I can't believe it. Ridiculous.
@@josephanthonymusic5737 thanks man! Yeah, the reissues are going up like everything else. I see them used under $1000 usually, but that’s what they used to be new. I tell people all the time that a silverface deluxe reverb (70’s era) is still great bang for your buck, but the Dream is excellent for $399!
I just kept thinking how much punchier A sounded and I was convinced that A was the amp. Now I don't know what to think. I've been on the fence about picking up the Dream 65, cause I tend to prefer amps over "gadgets" but this thing sounds really good.
I did a pedalboard build video recently, and that’s exactly my use case. It sounds great direct, and makes for a great backup rig. Highly recommend it!
I liked the B better because it wasn't as pushy and thich and rich as the A - the B had more breath in its attack (and I don't think it is due to the difference in reverb)... but that darn pedal sure is good! hard to tell how the comparison would fare in a mix environment - I suspect the fullness of the A might take up too much dynamic space - but the B might turn out to be proportionally difficult too clean up.... difficult stuff...
Interesting! While I had them in similar settings, it is possible the Dreams reverb was set a little higher. I think the Dream has one of the best spring reverbs I’ve heard in a pedal, which is not surprising given how high quality UA’s plugins/pedals are.
@@RiggsTaylor I don't doubt it. I have and love the Golden, but it is different to a real spring. I'm not going to say worse, although I do struggle to get a subtle spring setting on the Golden in the way you can easily dial one in on an amp.
@@pappyfightkid makes sense- definitely hard to emulate, and agree that they are different even from amp to amp. Which is kind of the cool thing about it!
The Dream has a TON on tap too. I use it often, and it’s huge in the room. I usually dial out some when recording (or the engineer will), but I left it all in for this video’s purposes
I think treble response is about the same, but as you said, there’s a more distinct midrange difference that makes the treble more apparent in B I think.
Amazing comparison. I thought A sounded better and I thought for sure it was the amp. So pumped that it was the Dream 65 pedal becaus eI just bought one.
Awesome! Hope you dig it!
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The same man! I thought A was slightly better, and I was sure it was the real amp. So, Dream 65 sounds amazing
The shimmering tails on the amp reverb gave it away, but I honestly preferred the Dream 65 for every example...it's so clean and powerful dry, and so dingy and gritty when overdriven.
It’s really stellar! Crazy how good technology has gotten.
The reverb gave it away for me, the spring tank sound is very distinctive and something I love about the amp. If the reverb were off it would have been very difficult to tell the difference. Great sounding pedal
I do think the reverb on the Dream sounds great, but the spring reverb is the hardest thing to emulate I think.
I think one of the best uses for something like this would be running it through the effects loops of an amp or into a power amp and a cab. That would be my use. I love my Mesa mark iv but it doesn’t quite have a fender clean sound, but a lot of the saturation of tube sound for me comes from big clean headroom with a pushed power amp, so I’ll imagine that brings this pedal to life
Never hurts to have tubes in the signal chain! I bet it would sound great.
Riggs, will you please explain what we are hearing. I assume the Dream is a direct recording of some kind. For this type, how are you listening to it? I assume you use studio monitors. For the real amp, it looks like you are recording using mic's. It seems like the right comparison would be to compare the mic'd studio monitors and the mic'd amp. This seems to be common on reviews of any kind of modeler by all TH-camrs. We seem to always get a computer recorded version but that isn't what we would be listening to when practicing. I'd be surprised if this pedal through a monitor sounds anything like the real amp. I am interested in buying one of these but I think I would need a power amp and real cab or some kind of FRFR speaker. Please comment.
I get what you’re saying - I do like the way it sounds with studio monitors! I think the direct sound is a good representation of how it sounds through studio monitors, and I would be happy to practice that way.
Personally I’m more concerned with the recorded direct sound since that’s what it would sound like live or on a record, but I get what you’re saying! I think you’d like it.
A sounds fantastic, but I feel like you can hear a little bit of the room in B and that’s the giveaway for me. Feels like you can’t go wrong with either it’s just whether you want convenience or the actual feeling of the amp in the room pushing air.
I think a big factor is whether or not your sound guy/venue will even let you have an amp on stage/run it at a decent volume. And if you travel a lot, especially flying, and you think both examples sound great, then the Dream is a no brainer!
I just bought a Dream on Black Friday ❤
Awesome! Great choice!
I own a hand made Deluxe Reverb. It’s my favorite amp of all time, bar none. I thought A sounded better in every example except with fuzz, but I would happily have used A or B regardless. The fact I got it “wrong” and actually preferred the pedal blows my mind, but what a great thing to discover.
It’s amazing how good it is! My ‘67 isn’t going anywhere, but the Dream sounds killer!
@@RiggsTaylor and great playing too man, I’m going to rewatch and learn some of your riffs
@@jordan-c-bay ah man, too kind! Really appreciate the support!
It was really clear to me from the go which was the amp. On the clean sound the pedal has that slight DI sound. Honestly I still haven't heard any emulation that can completely replicate an amp.
Totally agree - it’s not the exact same as an amp, but it does the job really well and gets great sounds, which is all I can hope for!
For sure. It has it's utility. Depending on the context. If it's in the mix of a pop song I wouldn't be able to tell the differents. @@RiggsTaylor
@@siggisiggo80 agree completely. Would much rather have an amp for live use, but sometimes this works better for recording quick ideas or layering into tracks. All tools for a job!
I've been using a Dream since it first came out and I've sold a lot of amps since. Hope UA expands the line though
Same here! It’s killer, but I’d like more variety.
Great video. I got it wrong. I’ve been playing for a long time. Owned two DRRIs at various times as well as other silver and black face fenders through the years (and many other tube amps). Just picked up the Dream yesterday. No regrets!
It’s crazy how good technology has gotten. I love my Deluxe Reverb, but the Dream makes more sense for most people.
Do you recommend I run a separate reverb pedal or will the built-in reverb on the Dream do the job effectively?
If you just use a little bit of reverb normally, the Dream 65 can do that. If you like more ambient reverbs and being able to have more control, definitely get a reverb pedal!
I was expecting the A to be the amp. Wow! Blown away by the Dream.
It’s fantastic! I just got the Ruby to try too. Fantastic pieces.
This was a very good demonstration of just how good the UA Dream '65 is. I have seen other similar demos and they all come out the same way, the Dream '65 is indistinguishable from the real DR. Amazing technology. Amazing pedal. This kills Iridium, etc. In fact, it kills the real DR when quiet is imperative. I must have one.
Thanks for a great vid.
Thanks man! Yeah, it’s a great pedal!
I know this is an old thread, but as I get more into the UAD ecosystem, I keep digging these up. Great comparison and really shows just how good the UAD version is. But, I guessed it right LOL!. There two things that listening to this with decent cans revealed to my old ears: One is cleaner to me, but only by a hair. Two, the reverbs. The second one just had more of that springy kinda vibe happening, I think they call it "drip"??? I dunno. But again, fantastic comp, I can easily see myself picking one of these up soon.
Thanks man! Yeah, real spring is SO hard to get right. Let’s also keep in mind that (to me) the reissues sound VERY different from a real vintage Deluxe Reverb. They sound good, just different. I think UA did a great job with this line!
I also assumed that clean B was the amp because of the reverb. Has someone who doesn't have any experience with a fender deluxe reverb, i wouldn't have known otherwise. Great video.
Thanks man!
This video helped answer a few of my questions. I've always been an amp guy, but I have to go direct in these days, so I'm building a board with that in mind. I was concerned how it would take pedals, specifically dirt, and ease of use. I've heard great things with Tonex, but I want to avoid computers and downloads if possible.
The Tonex is great too - I want to get the small version (Tonex One) to keep in my backpack in case of emergencies. This is great if you want to avoid computers for sure!
@RiggsTaylor Thanks for the perfect comparison in different situations! I liked A the most and I was sure it was the real amp, so in the end was surprised how good Dream 65 is. btw, can you share your settings of the Dream? what cab and mod did you use in this video?
Thanks! No mod - greenback speaker. Bass and treble just below half, and the volume right around 9:00!
@@RiggsTaylor thank you!
I could tell that A was the pedal because I think there was a slight amount of high end distortion during the "clean" segment of the video.... probably coming from your audio interface and or DAW...I own a Dream pedal and am still figuring it out and tweaking....👍😁
Interesting! I do think it gets dirtier a little quicker than my deluxe, but that can be changed with settings easily.
The fuzz tone gave it away, at least for me. Sounded much more natural on the amp. However, I’m sure that difference could be compensated for with different settings on the UA or the Fuzz pedal or both. Clean (which is how I’d be using the pedal) the difference was almost undetectable. Impressive job by UA.
I actually think I prefer the fuzz sound from the Dream in a mix, but that’s definitely the most noticeable difference. I agree- they knocked it out of the park!
Feels like with modelers, fuzz ends up floating “around” the notes being played, whereas with tube amps the fuzz is “apart” of the notes being played
In the first second i knew what was the amp...and I'm not a guitar player,the reverb and the room told the truth,the amp is smoother,the pedal is to exact,for some people that worx,if i was an uad engineer i would put a diffusion button on the pedal so u could go from that clean digital pedal tone to kind of foggy smoother amp tone
I have the woodrow! Its amazing also!
I’ve heard great things about all of them! I’ll probably try the Ruby out as well, but the Dream does most everything I need.
Thank you, it is different but I was finding myself preferring the Dream! I had a strong feeling that the amp was B though! Question, so how does it "feel" and play live on stage in a venue? Thanks again.
I really like it and have gotten great feedback from FOH engineers about it! I prefer the Kemper in terms of modelers, but for the money the Dream/UA amps are the best bang for buck. Much prefer them over the Helix/HX stuff.
@@RiggsTaylor Hey there, thank you for your input. I watched some of Kemper videos as well... very nice indeed. Versatility would be nice although I have always been a one amp guy (was a Maz jr, now a Tungsten, Cream of Wheat, or FYD Big Verb) with peadls. So I not sure how much I would use all the sounds. Do you have just a couple you use or MANY different Amps that you use live? Thanks
@@enaugle1 I use 2/3 amps per gig on the Kemper, but definitely opt towards a simpler setup. The Kemper Player is honestly the perfect solution for me live. The Dream is great too though.
Amazing comparison! you got a new subscriber. btw, how did you record the pedal? I want one to replace my Fender Blues Jr for quiet practice. DI box? Direct to the interface in High Z?
Thanks man! I did TRS-XLR cables into the two main inputs on the Apollo Twin 👍🏻
@@RiggsTaylor Hi! I watched your video again and bought my own Dream65. Any specific reason to connect with an XLR connection? Is it going as 'Mic level' into the Apollo Twin? I plan to connect directly to my Zoom Livetrak-8 as 'Line Input', since the output of the Dream65 is 500 Ohm.
@@luis2arm no, you can connect however! I do XLR because that what I use live to send to FOH since it has balanced line outs 👍🏻
Nice demo ❤
Thank you!
Nice! Are you using a compressor on the front end?
Not in this demo!
If you're recording direct to your computer, surely the sound in the room will very much depend on which cab you have. I quite fancy one to go straight to pa, but then I'd need a cab for home play. I have a dr.
Knew right away that A was the Dream, but that's not to say that it didn't sound really good. There's just something a little more 3d and dynamic about both the overall gain feel and the reverb with B, the amp.The Dream sound is still absolutely workable and much better than most amp sims I've heard.
Totally agree. Hard to beat a great amp of this caliber, and surprising that a $400 pedal comes this close!
I could tell the Dream was the Dream because that’s what I’ve been using for the last month or so , so I’m pretty familiar with how it sounds. Had I not been so familiar with the Dream, it would’ve been impossible to tell for me
A testament to both being great options I think. But for most people, $399 is a bit more affordable 🤘🏻
@@RiggsTaylor just a bit ;)
Great review mate! Didn't care about which is which actually 'cause they both sounded awesome! I'm getting mine in two days, can you tell me if you use trs cables to connect from the pedal to your apollo twin? Or just Ts cables, i'm asking 'cause UAD always say not to plug in Ts cables in the combo jack/xlr inputs of their apollos. Thanks :D
XLR-TRS cables! So TRS from the Dream to XLR into the Apollo 🤙🏻
@@RiggsTaylor Nice!!! Thanks mate
@@Joaomota87 you bet!
Great Job! Thanks! Curious, what pickups are in your Suhr now?
Same Suhr ML’s in the neck and middle, but a V70 from my old Suhr in the bridge. Tone is rolled off on that one because it’s brighter, and I have another ML on the way to make it a complete set!
@@RiggsTaylor Thanks! Thinking of doing the same with my HSS. (Although I must say that I recently got one of the Paulownia Classic S HSS with a DSV that is my new fav H after trying SSV, TB, TB+, Asatobucker and TBII!)
@@melbindas3819 the ML’s are definitely my favorite. Since I do a lot of different styles of music, I need some thing it’s a little bit more full sounding with less high end, and that set does it really well.
I hear some kind of crackle in clip A clean almost imperceptible but I notice that. I can´t ear it in the clip B clean. I am thinking if it is electrostatic noise of the pickguard...
I'm waiting for my pedal to arrive. I clarify that the sound is incredible and that's why I bought it, I'd rather have a single amp that sounds almost identical to the real thing than a digital multi-effects with 200 amp, cabinets and submenus... Also, in my country it's almost impossible to buy a real Fender Deluxe! Excelent work!
Interesting observation! Could be electrostatic noise. And I’m with you - I’d rather have something that does one thing well than something that does a bunch of things, but not as well. Enjoy it!
A sounded so familiar to me, have been playing modelers for a few years now and I don’t remember how real amps feel/sound 😂. Now do you think UA have leaped forward in modeling technology beyond Line 6 and Fractal?
It’s different, hard to say “better” but I personally prefer it. This is still just one amp style though, and the benefit of those units is having a ton of amps/effects in one.
Great comparison - they both sounded wonderful but I was able to identify the amp simply by that unique mechanical "clank" you hear from an actual reverb tank when you hit a hard staccato chord.
Great ear! That’s tough to emulate for sure.
Amazing. Which cab were you using on the Dream just curiously?
The Greenback! It’s my favorite on the Dream really. I like the Oxford for some stuff, but it seems like a less-broken-in Oxford than what is in my ‘67 deluxe reverb.
THANKS, RIGGS TAYLOR!
You bet!
If only you could save and access several (4 at least) presets via midi foot switch. I’d also love to see this ‘Dream’ sim available on Apollo soon.
Yeah, a MIDI option would be cool, but I’m sure they weighed the pros/cons (added cost, probably larger footprint) and figured this would be the best for the most people. A more “professional” version with those options would be cool to see.
As an Apollo user, that would be cool! I imagine it would take a lot of power to make it viable, so not sure if you could have something this high quality in a plug-in format. Not an engineer though, so maybe I’m wrong 😂
Yay. I just got one and was hoping it was A. Thanks for confirming I made the right choice. Great demo. Subbed.
Thanks dude! Great choice 🎸
Both sounds great. Could for sure identify the amp. Well, just amp like. The pedal was a little “too much”, still sounding great though. I think you could adjust the pedal a bit, to get the last bit of good old amp juice out of it. Great video…
Thanks man! Yeah, it’s hard to beat a great amp like this one. It’s exciting to see how good technology has gotten though!
@@RiggsTaylor absolutely. A/B tests are always tricky. They both sounds great on their own. So its not about good/bad or right/wrong. For the first time ever I’m ready to try this UA out. The only unit (to my ears) that actually sounds like the real thing and with out this strange digital vibe the others always have. 😀
Amazing! You fooled me, I thought the A was the Deluxe, all the time.
Both are great!
how crazy, I thought the A was the amplifier and the B the pedal.
I think a lot of people did 😎
What we’re your settings on the dream for clean? Sounds great!
Thanks man! Vol: 9:00, Rev. 3:00, Output 12:00, Bass & Treble 11:00, just a hair of the D-Tex boost. I used the G25 speaker because that’s what I’ve been using the most live. The Oxford model I find to be brighter than my DR, but I also find the speaker in mine to sound better than most oxfords 🤷🏻♂️
@@RiggsTaylor I know what you mean. My favorite is the EV!
@@marcusflores2184 interesting! Yeah for clean stuff I dig that one, but don’t love it dirty.
So the clean tone has a little push from the boost? Which boost is this? Can’t quite figure out what d-Tex is. Did you have the boost in when you added the klon for the dirty? Great sounds! You got more out of the pedal than most. Sounds thicker.
I listened to the clean sounds, and thought A was the pedal, B was the amp. I liked the amp a lot more, but the pedal did sound very nice. I don't know how to describe this, but the treble and bass of the amp sounded more "unified", more like two parts of a whole. The pedal's treble and bass sounded more "seperate", more like two discreet entities that didn't have an effect on each other. I don't know if that's a good way to describe what I heard and felt; maybe calling the amp more "organic" sounding would be a better use of words. BTW, I just finished up using a Dream '65 in an Off-Broadway show. When the show ended I bought it from the production company, and I look forward to experimenting with it at home; maybe even on gigs someday.
That’s rad! Yeah, really good way to put it I think. I use the Dream live often and really like it, but I’m always taking the real thing when they’ll allow it 😎
Boy you gonna need some chiropractic care after that first A/B session, Riggly bear.
Great playing and cool video bro. Very helpful.
😂 thanks dude! Glad you enjoyed it!
Ever since the beginning of the video I thought the real Amp is letter A..but I was wrong.....can you share your settings on dream 65
Yeah! Volume at 9/10o clock, bass 11, treble 12, output as needed. A little spring reverb and sometimes boost.
Great work here 🫡
Thanks man!
I thought A was the amp since I preferred it in almost every clip, but the fuzz clips made me think that B was the amp because it clearly handled the fuzz better to my ears. I don't care much about fuzz tho so Dream for the win!
The Dream is fantastic - especially for around $300 or less used!
Thank you for this
Very welcome!
B was the amp. I have the dream as well.
It’s a great pedal! Hard to beat the real thing, especially a prime example. I bet it’s closer to the reissue Deluxe Reverb.
Liked B (the amp) better with the fuzz pedal, though
Yeah, it’s hard to make something replicate all of those complex harmonics. Not bad for 1/10th of the price though!
Wow. I’m shocked. I was sure A was the amp the whole way through because I thought it sounded better and took the fuzz better. I just got a Dream this week. I love it. I only have that and a Rat for overdrive. I’m selling my MX5 from Headrush because the Dream has an excellent clean sound and it’s so easy to use. No need to mess with Hz and whatever. Only thing I suggest is an eq pedal which I’m getting because when you play loud through a PA it get very pitched. I think they should patch it. An eq pedal after it should do the trick.
It’s a great unit! Used it last night for the first time in a bit and was pleased!
The clean sounds were extremely close but the dirty sounds were a further apart. The Dream got way dirtier than the Deluxe. Maybe that's a headroom thing? But yeah, but sound fantastic!
I think it’s more of an EQ thing in the Dream, but I actually preferred the dirty sound of it in these clips!
@@RiggsTaylor More mid-forward you think? Oh and do you think these will begin popping up in recording sessions or is that never going to be a thing in that world?
@@SunnyvilleMusic yeah, it’s a bit more mid forward. I definitely think people will record with them! I know I’ll use it a lot for videos and tracks when I need to worry about volume management, or am showing off a stereo pedal.
Clean I actually preferred the pedal - I ordered the dream right away - but destorted the Amp sounds 10 times better. The pedal sounded very digital and unpleasant with higher distortion. That's what digital pedals still can't get right. ;-
Interesting! It’s definitely tighter sounding, maybe a bit brighter, but that could be dialed out I think. The brightness can help in a band mix though. I usually have to add a bit more treble than I would opt for in an isolated guitar track.
The fuzz part and reverb gave it away, can't blame UA since fuzz is very hard to take for any amp pedal.
Agree. Fuzz and spring reverb are really hard to get right, but honestly I think UA captures the feeling/vibe as well as any modeler I’ve played. I think the Kemper does a better job with pedals, but that doesn’t mean it sounds as accurate. Regardless, not bad for under $400!
Man what camera do you use!?
Just a canon m50! Super inexpensive. I usually use the 22mm f/2 lens as well.
Wow, thought A was the amp because of the thickness. I prefer it to the real amp
It’s a great sound! Pretty amazing what you can get for $399.
I guessed early on which one was the amp, but yeah, it's good.
It’s different, but I agree the Dream is good. Especially for 1/10th the price of a clean vintage deluxe reverb.
I'm cheating with the tc electric 65 deluxe amp in a box. I have a cab modeling device that I go into and after the tc, it has 9 cab simulations, then I have an Ibenez tube screamer I have a vibrato pedal before that, if I want vibrato. I had all that other stuff before I purchased the tc electronic 65 deluxe and it makes the tc sound spectacular. I still might get the dream at a later date, it sounds great and I like that it's stereo but for now I'm really happy.
By the way the dream sounds amazing in your demo. I noticed the difference in the clean sounds. The amp is just a tad smoother sound but once you start adding pedals it was almost impossible to tell them apart. I had the 65 deluxe reverb reissue, I sold it about 10 years ago. They've gone up so much I can't believe it. Ridiculous.
@@josephanthonymusic5737 thanks man! Yeah, the reissues are going up like everything else. I see them used under $1000 usually, but that’s what they used to be new. I tell people all the time that a silverface deluxe reverb (70’s era) is still great bang for your buck, but the Dream is excellent for $399!
I just kept thinking how much punchier A sounded and I was convinced that A was the amp. Now I don't know what to think. I've been on the fence about picking up the Dream 65, cause I tend to prefer amps over "gadgets" but this thing sounds really good.
I agree and prefer amps too. But at this price I’m getting one. If I don’t use it as my main, it will be a very nice back up in case the amp fails
I did a pedalboard build video recently, and that’s exactly my use case. It sounds great direct, and makes for a great backup rig. Highly recommend it!
I felt the same way but I got it and it's causing me anxiety that it sounds as good as it does.
I liked the B better because it wasn't as pushy and thich and rich as the A - the B had more breath in its attack (and I don't think it is due to the difference in reverb)... but that darn pedal sure is good! hard to tell how the comparison would fare in a mix environment - I suspect the fullness of the A might take up too much dynamic space - but the B might turn out to be proportionally difficult too clean up.... difficult stuff...
Definitely! Yeah, I’d probably cut a little bass for live use if it was a full band situation, but it’s super easy to dial in.
So let's be dreamers... 🙃🙂😉
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The reverb gave it away in seconds. The digital reverb is more "in the way" than the spring. The core tone sounds decent though.
Interesting! While I had them in similar settings, it is possible the Dreams reverb was set a little higher. I think the Dream has one of the best spring reverbs I’ve heard in a pedal, which is not surprising given how high quality UA’s plugins/pedals are.
@@RiggsTaylor I don't doubt it. I have and love the Golden, but it is different to a real spring. I'm not going to say worse, although I do struggle to get a subtle spring setting on the Golden in the way you can easily dial one in on an amp.
@@pappyfightkid makes sense- definitely hard to emulate, and agree that they are different even from amp to amp. Which is kind of the cool thing about it!
I wouldn’t bother with the pedal because it couldn’t come close to the spring reverb.
Most pedals can’t really do the real spring reverb thing - especially a vintage tank. That said, it does the job for about 1/10th of the price 🤷🏻♂️
B is the digital, i decide it at 13:00
Damn! I prefer the drive tone of Dream, Its just sounds fuller
Crazy how that works sometimes! For some situations, I go back and forth.
I WAS WRONG 😂
I bet a lot of people will! The Dream sounds fantastic!
@@RiggsTaylor a true 50/50 chance because it’s basically the same picture 😂
@@ZacharyRyanMusic89 haha. I won’t give it away, but I prefer the Dream in all examples but one, maybe two.
I thought the tube amp was a.
Not a bad sound between the two in this comparison! Tech has gotten really good.
I feel you should have just demonstrated the pedal without adding other pedals into the mix...
Most musicians I know use pedals to some degree, as do I, so an important factor is how it responds to pedals as well.
a lot more low end on the real deal
The Dream has a TON on tap too. I use it often, and it’s huge in the room. I usually dial out some when recording (or the engineer will), but I left it all in for this video’s purposes
I think I'm going to sell the helix and get the dream 65 and the ruby.
Just got a Ruby in today to try out! Great options depending on what you need.
Nice video. A comes across as much much treblier and sparklier to me
A bit too much maybe
Interesting! Definitely makes a difference if you listen with headphones/monitors or on a phone/computer too.
B was a bit harsher, actually. A had more low mids in comparison.
@@gffg387 interesting! Everyone’s ears are slightly different, but I also wonder if part could be how you guys are watching/listening
@@RiggsTaylor I listened via Sennheiser HD600. Which one you think had more treble?
I think treble response is about the same, but as you said, there’s a more distinct midrange difference that makes the treble more apparent in B I think.