I worked retail in college. I made it extremely clear in my interview that, during the semester, my time would be limited due to classes; however, during holiday breaks and summer break, I was available whenever. I even provided a copy of my class schedule with dates showing beginning and end of semester (and break times/dates) so they would know my availability. The assistant store manager was horrible, and he made it his goal to deliberately call me on days when I had class, WHEN I WAS IN CLASS, to come “cover a shift.” He would then berate me for not showing up, on my next scheduled shift, in front of customers no less. He ended up getting fired when enough of us had his BS and reported him to the district manager.
My first job in high school was at Burger King. I got the job as a part time, evening worker for 16 hours a week. The week after I started was a vacation week. I looked at the schedule and saw that I was scheduled for 40 hours, including Saturday from 9-5. I had the PSATs that Saturday. I called my boss and explained the problem. He said that I had to talk to the owner as he made the schedule. I called him and explained that I was a part time evening employee and was unable to work 40 hours and that I would not be able to come in Saturday due to the exam. He said "you'll work when I say you work. You're off school on vacation. I don't care if you have the PSAT. Come in you're fired!" I told him "you really think I'm going to give up going to college for a part time Burger King job? Get lost!" I got a new job a few days later at a local department store. I knew other people who worked at that Burger King-no one lasted long because of the owner. One girl actually called me a year later saying he did the same thing to her-scheduled during the day when she was an evening worker, and she had a dance recital that he told her to miss or get fired. She left. Some people are just asses.
I once picked up my two oldest grandchildren and was driving them to a family reunion. This was my planned vacation, which had been on the books for months. My boss called and asked where I was and why didn't I come in that day. I told him I was on vacation and wouldn't be back for more than a week. He said he cancelled it. I said you should have told me. Im taking my vacation. This is the same boss who came to my desk on a Friday at 5:30 and couldn't figure out why I went home. He asked me on Monday why I left early. I said I left on time, for the first time in 3 months, I left at 4 and wasn't at my desk until 7 or 8 at night. I was put in the hospital and the ER doctor told me that I either quit the job or I would be dead in a year. I found a better job and was gone a month later.
My husband's job got so bad about calling him in on his days off that we literally started leaving the state on his weekends. Thankfully his mom was understanding and let us use her spare room
I'm kind of confused. Rather that leaving town each weekend, you don't you just IGNORE the phone calls? 🤔 Unless your husband's a doctor and on call... Any one calling with work related matters should be hearing crickets when they call.😅
The French have the right idea - employers are not allowed to contact their employees outside their normal working hours.and it’s the same in the UK 🇬🇧. When I was at work the only reason my boss would contact me after work would be to ask if I fancied a pint 🍺
[Phone rings 1 hour before start of work, ID shows boss] Employee: "You aren't allowed to call me outside my hours." [hangs up] [Employee gets to work and sees empty parking lot and finds doors locked. Calls boss] Boss: "Hello employee. I called an hour ago to let you know the power is out at the office and not to come in until we call to let you know it's been restored." 😺😺😺
@@Cheradanine actually there kinda is, but the definition is not what is implied in the original comment. People employed in the UK are entitled to 11 hours of uninterrupted rest from their employer between shifts. An employer regularly contacting their employee out of hours may be breach of this regulation.
I've been using Nunya as long as I can remember, I'm 62, my kids have said since they could speak, they are in their 40's, so Nunya has been around a REAL LONG time ✌️🙏
@lelandgaunt9985 - Hahahahahahaha. What an *EXCELLENT* idea. After my husband left an intense job, he was asked if he wanted to change the phone # on his *personal* phone to his old work # (!!!) He told them, "Hell, NO!
Whenever they say 'on-call' always ask if they are complying with all laws and regulations about who can be on a call, for how long, and of course the mandatory overtime pay. And when they tell you you're exempt from being paid for overtime, point out that also means your exempt from on-call. (Warning, laws may very by state and country, read up on your local labor laws first).
Those ideas usually originate from our HQ in the US, but are quickly squatted here in Europe. Apart from european laws and culture I think many people suggesting these things dont comprehend what it costs to hire someone. I work in a high skill industry, finding the right person for the average job can take months. And then they require company specific training, depending on the individual that can be anywhere between 3 to 6 months. From the moment someone leaves, because they are pissed off with management to someone doing the job self sufficiently we are looking at almost a year on average. And that is before we take any of the experience and institutional knowledge the leaving party takes with them into account. As a manager it is literally my job to balance and MANAGE the needs of the business with the needs of the individual and create an environment where skilled employees can deliver excellent performance for the benefit of the company. I love your skits, they always help to illustrate how not to do things. ❤
@@hosam7609 I work for a software company. I think we manage to make a good place to work. It's still work and not a leisure center.... but it's the best place i worked at in my career.
"you are required to inform the company" - does not mean get permission, just an fyi. so: - i hereby inform you that i will be going away to a location without cell service every single weekend from now on until forever.
Unless the company suddenly produces a birth certificate stating they are one of my parents, Nunya is my mother, father, siblings, and all other relatives and they are the only ones I INFORM of anything outside my scheduled hours.
As a leader and also as an individual contributor, I have never asked anyone about their off time. If they choose to share, I will hear part of it, but I really believe your time is your time.
I think anyone that is that controlling needs a therapist. If they are putting a family locating device as a administrator over your phone and access that is when I would leave it at home and walk away from it. If someone is trying to control you like that they might have a warped sense of leadership...
Yeah, my bf has been at his job for almost 10 years. He hasn't put his number into the official sheet, but several colleagues have it for private purposes and if shit hits the fan. Usually he knows beforehand, if something might come up during the night, but in all those years he's only been called 2-3 times by colleagues who needed his help. He can bill that to the company though.
Love your work. I'm retired now but I handled things pretty much like your videos do. Do your job, be direct and take no prisoners with management when they make unreasonable requests. Always know your own worth.
I run two mobile phones with two numbers 1. Strictly personal in all respects. 2. Business only during normal business hours with my number withheld . If they want an emergency call back I only accept text messages from known managers or colleagues. No emails at any time other than business hours.
I worked at a real estate office where the corporate office more or less inferred each admin for each office would be available by phone (on our personal cells) for the agents 24/7 AND that we would have Outlook on our phones so we could always check and respond to urgent emails. 😐 I flat-out told them when they started paying for my cell phone & put me on salary, I would be happy to comply. Needless to say, none of the above ever came to pass. 🤷🏼♀️
I love your content but I wish it wasn't necessary. The fact that businesses do this is ridiculous. The worst part is is that we as US citizens allow this to happen. We need to fight the system
@@wlonsdale1 Its not a laughing matter. Families depend on the pay that comes from shit bosses that expect unpaid overtime. It is nothing short of abuse and there is no place for it in civilized society. Only a feral animal of a man thinks it's funny.
Off the grid starts at the end of my shift and I'm back on the grid when my shift starts. Phones have this thing called a "power button" and you can turn them off.
At my last job, even though nothing was mentioned about being on call during the interviews, I was put on call without any notification, after I had worked there for about 4 months. It was pretty much 24x7, with no comp time and no additional compensation. Looking back, I wish that after the first call, I had just started turning my phone off at night, and forced them to address it directly. The business called me many a night (2am, 3am, etc). I was always expected to report back for work at 8, even if it took me an hour to resolve an issue. Glad I don't work there anymore!
Pretty sure what they did to you was illegal. I get paid $4 an hour to be on call, and if I actually get a call and have to work, I deduct that time from any workday I choose.
Years ago, i worked retail. I had Jacka$$ Magiilcutty as a member of "management." She used to walk into the departments asking,"Who wants overtime?!" When we told her we were interested, she would say, "Ok, what day do you want to switch?" She wasn't giving us overtime. She was simply trying to get workers to switch different days tor her convenience.🤦 She knew what she was doing. She was treating us like a bunch of peons....
I retired from a company that made it clear that work hours and personal time did not mix. The place closed at 5 and EVERYONE left. They had a belief in the work-life balance and believed that this made everyone happier and more productive. No one that had this type of attitude (as in the video)would get anywhere near a management position.
You absolutely can, it just takes a bit of practice 😊 Repeating the words she uses in the video, and then try repeating it in front of a mirror to see how you come across. The more you repeatedly practice, the easier it gets! Before you know it, assertiveness has become second nature to you. You deserve to be treated with respect. You got this 🤗
@@ThatGhostlyStuff I believe you can use much of the tone for the reply and repeat the same answer each time asked. I would not give a "nonya" answer unless you are sure how it will be received. Such an answer could be considered inappropriate by many. Generally, I suggest staying with "I will not be available until Monday (or whatever is your next work day). As a manager of a 10 person team, I don't ask anyone why they request time off. Some of the team shares and others don't, all of which is within their rights.
I have problems with my employer calling and/or texting me on my personal cell phone. If 24/7 contact is required, supply employees with a company phone. Of course this attitude started back in the dark ages before we had unlimited texts and calling and we paid extra for every single text and call.
I agree. Back in the beginning I never gave out my cell phone number to any business I worked for. They had my home phone number, and at times they hated this.
Thankfully, I never had a job where I could work from home or remotely in anyway shape or form. The good news about that is that when I’m at work I work and when I walk out the door I’m done.
Have 2 phones. One personal the other for business. And leave the business one at the company. Unless you signed for be on call and get the benefits from it (or is your own business). You should only concern yourself for when is your time to work. Outside works hours, is not your problem.
When she says "you are required to inform me should you not be reachable on weekends" Just say "OK, I'm not reachable on weekends... there you've been informed. Toodaloo..."
I’m going through harvest season at the winery I work at this summer. I’m literally going through this at my work. One of my coworkers tries to guilt trip me into feeling like work should be my first priority, while I have other things I’ve scheduled to do and other things I need to get done at my house
All these situations, illustrated quasi-seriously in this series, only arise because of the adversarial culture created by a sheer lack of common-sense. Go back 20 years. No sensible employee would go incommunicado when on Annual Leave because they would WANT their employer to be able to call them if a genuine mission-critical situation arose, which it almost always would not but, in extremis, no-one wants the company that employs them to go out of business. By the precise same token, no manager would intrude on an employee's Annual Leave unless the situation was genuinely mission-critical - not least because the manager has their own Annual Leave which they would like to be similarly respected. We have, however, migrated into a situation where, in some businesses, it would seem that the employer - employee relationship has become adversarial rather than co-operative. No-one gains from that.
I'm a Trucker. I get a mandatory 10 hrs of minimum between shifts and 34 hrs off minimum after I bump my top out. 60 or 70 hrs a week depending on how your company runs so I know what time I gotta be at work every morning. If my start time is before the 10 is up. I start after my 10 is up. FMCSA don't PLAY. so Rarely does my boss call after hours. If he does it's because something got screwed up. He's gotta fix. But the above still applies. And he texts everything so there's a record. Pretty good system we got.
I had a boss who said,"If I need to call you while you're on vacation, then I am not paying you enough. I think I am paying you enough so I won't call."
when I first started my job 5 years ago, my boss had no problem emailing or calling me before work, after work, on weekends, etc. So I documented all that time on the time sheet and turned it in. I have not heard a peep outside work hours since and my boss is religious about "only during your tour of duty times". Must have gotten slapped hard over the almost 10K in overtime...LOL
I had a supervisor who couldn't judge what was and wasn't an "emergency" who liked to call me at all kinds of weird hours. I "responded" by automatically sending his phone calls to voice mail. 😀
Used to be a fairly avid mountain biker/primitive camper. Was also active duty military... Stayed within the 250 mile liberty bubble almost all the time and made known where I'd be, but briefed seniors and subordinates alike that even if i had service my phone would rarely be on/checked. Most chains of command were supportive cause I'd bust my hump for em. Micromanaging and constant contact do nothing but demonstrate you have no faith in your people. Communicate early and communicate often sure, but I much prefer command by negation. Empowering my guys/gals and trusting em, after ensuring they were adequately trained, made my shops so much happier and more productive!
'Nunya' 😅, I like that and will use it if necessary. In fairness, my employer recognises the need for quality time out of office hours. Quite rightly, you are expected to work hard during your agreed hours, but they understand that to get the best out of people, you need free time to re-charge your batteries.
Less than 20 years ago, before cellphones were common, if you were out of the office and not in your home, the company accepted that they couldn't contact you. And companies were fine with it, no companies went under because of it. But niw, with the introduction of cellphones, companies seem to think they have a god-like right to control every second of your day. All stemming from cellphones.
I used to work on call when on shift. We were staffed as high as 8 days on 6 off. You had your hourly pay with no on call pay but if you got a call on off the clock I guess there was a minimum of 2 hours call out. When off shift there was no expectation of a work call unless just coordination of who is covering for you or if you wanted to work an extra day.
Why does anyone feel the need to explain themselves to their employer? Even on sick/personal days, I send an email to my boss and the comptroller w/ the subject line "Personal Day (the day's date)". Done! Not even a body of message, reasoning, explanation, nothing.
I had a boss who told me my job came before my family. This was after i had two days off when my 3year old was ill ( i rang in to say i wouldn't be in ) i walked out , no job comes before my sick child...i also reported them to my local job centre
I had a freelance client who used to call me 24/7 to answer questions, even when I was out of state. And she got angry if I didn't answer. I told her if she kept calling, that I would be charging her for my time, in half hour increments... meaning if she called me for a 5 minute conversation, she eould be invoiced for 30 minutes the next billing cycle. The nuisance phone calls stopped.
If no money is what I'll be making after business hours, no thing is what I will do for the business after business hours. If you accept now being 'on call' 24/7 for the same pay it means you took a 66.6% pay cut. You're really moving up in the world.
I read the reviews employees post about conditions at their workplace before applying for a job anywhere. No good, no go! Don't forget to review your employer for those who follow.
I was a 911 dispatcher. On call 24/7 365 unless on vacation. Only guarantee we had is if you you had to have 8hrs off a day so you could end up going 16 on 8 off for days. I worked 23 days in a row
My ex-job wanted me to be available for calls when on a 7 day holiday ................ on a cruise ship ........... in the middle of the ocean ............... nah 😂
American work “ethics” and healthcare is appalling……….. I leave work at 18:00. They will never call. I told them I will NEVER be available for any overtime….they don’t call. I go on holiday. They don’t ask where I’m going……..on my days off…they don’t call…… I had an aortic aneurism repair three years ago. 8 1/2 hours surgery, ten days recovery in hospital, all medication necessary to keep me alive. Cost to me….. £0.00, paid for by my taxes and insurance contributions. ALSO as I was off work for ONE YEAR after, my company still paid my salary - in full…… America! What is YOUR government doing with YOUR taxes?
I started using an auto reply I saw on here: “I will have limited access to email and teams because I will be limiting my access to email and teams.” people still email and message, I just ignore them and set my phone to a profile that ignores outlook and teams notifications.
These videos are stupid funny. Because when you sign a contract, your job desacription will include a line at the end where you must do all the taks given you to by your superior rank, no matter what they are. It's you job. They order you to wash the toilets, even if you're a sales rep, if you don't you didn't do your jog as per your responsabilities. If you find a place where they don't have such lines where they tell you "and other tasks given by the superior chain command" you keep that job as much as possible. Of course, this assumes you're not a generic slave on plantation without a contract, that can be let go any second someone has an iffy life and decided to simply brush you off.
I know author is proactively warning us about negative workplace influences. I can imagine a 'storyline' series where antagonists cannot resolve a reaction without stress and emotional release, 'the comeuppance episodes'.
My dad used to work for the government, so he had to inform them anytime he planned to leave the country and then check in with the local embassy when we got there.
Nope. If you're not paying me, you don't get any control over what I do with that time (with exceptions for things like misrepresenting the company, badmouthing them on social media, etc, which I could understand would be frowned upon.)
nah don't even start with the mention of the road trip small talk needed for rapport building but it's a slippery slope where you can divulge things that can be used against you
The only excuse is "for safety" and that's really only if you actually want the people in your office to know anything lol like I'd tell my boss. But he also yells at me when I don't take time off
I struggle to imagine this coming up "late" at a new job, but I certainly wouldn't smile politely during the conversation. But theb, German law is _rather_ clear about such topics.
Until i see proof otherwise, via a birth certificate stating the company is one of my parents or relative, Nunya is my mother, father, siblings, and all other blood relatives, and barely then do i INFORM them of my actuvities outside of scheduled times.
My wife worked for Nat West Bank in tunbridge wells about 25 years ago , he female boss insisted she be available on the phone even when we were on HOLIDAY in France , I got very angry . She got demoted in the end for bullying . Yep Karen , that was you if you read this .
I worked retail in college. I made it extremely clear in my interview that, during the semester, my time would be limited due to classes; however, during holiday breaks and summer break, I was available whenever. I even provided a copy of my class schedule with dates showing beginning and end of semester (and break times/dates) so they would know my availability.
The assistant store manager was horrible, and he made it his goal to deliberately call me on days when I had class, WHEN I WAS IN CLASS, to come “cover a shift.” He would then berate me for not showing up, on my next scheduled shift, in front of customers no less.
He ended up getting fired when enough of us had his BS and reported him to the district manager.
It’s like all logic and reason in people’s brains completely vanishes once they’re promoted to a management position.
My first job in high school was at Burger King. I got the job as a part time, evening worker for 16 hours a week. The week after I started was a vacation week. I looked at the schedule and saw that I was scheduled for 40 hours, including Saturday from 9-5. I had the PSATs that Saturday. I called my boss and explained the problem. He said that I had to talk to the owner as he made the schedule. I called him and explained that I was a part time evening employee and was unable to work 40 hours and that I would not be able to come in Saturday due to the exam. He said "you'll work when I say you work. You're off school on vacation. I don't care if you have the PSAT. Come in you're fired!" I told him "you really think I'm going to give up going to college for a part time Burger King job? Get lost!" I got a new job a few days later at a local department store. I knew other people who worked at that Burger King-no one lasted long because of the owner. One girl actually called me a year later saying he did the same thing to her-scheduled during the day when she was an evening worker, and she had a dance recital that he told her to miss or get fired. She left. Some people are just asses.
i'm surprised he didn't get a raise and a promotion!
@@KaijuKim- Nope.
It just reveals what was already there just waiting to emerge when the opportunity presented itself.
@@benu_bird- Yup. Stupid ones at that.
I once picked up my two oldest grandchildren and was driving them to a family reunion. This was my planned vacation, which had been on the books for months. My boss called and asked where I was and why didn't I come in that day. I told him I was on vacation and wouldn't be back for more than a week. He said he cancelled it. I said you should have told me. Im taking my vacation. This is the same boss who came to my desk on a Friday at 5:30 and couldn't figure out why I went home. He asked me on Monday why I left early. I said I left on time, for the first time in 3 months, I left at 4 and wasn't at my desk until 7 or 8 at night. I was put in the hospital and the ER doctor told me that I either quit the job or I would be dead in a year. I found a better job and was gone a month later.
"To whom it may concern, I will be unavailable every weekend and holiday."
Exactly!
@@nickk9202 And before 9 and after 5 and during my unpaid lunch break lol
To whom it may concern, what I do and where I go outside of normal business hours is none of your f*cking business.
You don’t call me - I don’t call you. Do we have an accord?
My husband's job got so bad about calling him in on his days off that we literally started leaving the state on his weekends. Thankfully his mom was understanding and let us use her spare room
That's when you start billing
Im with the billing comment and props the the mother in law as well
You shouldn't have to leave the state because of work calling. Just don't answer!
I'm kind of confused.
Rather that leaving town each weekend, you don't you just IGNORE the phone calls? 🤔
Unless your husband's a doctor and on call... Any one calling with work related matters should be hearing crickets when they call.😅
Not answering the phone is cheaper and easier
The French have the right idea - employers are not allowed to contact their employees outside their normal working hours.and it’s the same in the UK 🇬🇧. When I was at work the only reason my boss would contact me after work would be to ask if I fancied a pint 🍺
Its not the same in the UK. There are no legal obligations on businesses in the UK to restrict contact with employees to work hours
[Phone rings 1 hour before start of work, ID shows boss]
Employee: "You aren't allowed to call me outside my hours." [hangs up]
[Employee gets to work and sees empty parking lot and finds doors locked. Calls boss]
Boss: "Hello employee. I called an hour ago to let you know the power is out at the office and not to come in until we call to let you know it's been restored." 😺😺😺
@@Cheradanine actually there kinda is, but the definition is not what is implied in the original comment. People employed in the UK are entitled to 11 hours of uninterrupted rest from their employer between shifts. An employer regularly contacting their employee out of hours may be breach of this regulation.
In Portugal we have laws stating the same as in france
Note to self: Learn how to speak French.
Love that Nunya Business is now a name, activity and location
It should be our 51st state lol.
I've been using Nunya as long as I can remember, I'm 62, my kids have said since they could speak, they are in their 40's, so Nunya has been around a REAL LONG time ✌️🙏
@@user-ew8vt1ur7j- 😂😅
@@user-ew8vt1ur7j💯
Its a sister city to Mindya Business.
Only when I was in the military that I had to report to my job on my whereabouts.
If I had a job that required this, I'm out!
Due to the incompetence of the army, I “accidentally” changed my number when I retired.
@lelandgaunt9985 - Hahahahahahaha. What an *EXCELLENT* idea. After my husband left an intense job, he was asked if he wanted to change the phone # on his *personal* phone to his old work # (!!!) He told them, "Hell, NO!
"where are you going?"
Me: "To a convent."
"Huh?" in corporate
Me: "yes. I'm a nun on weekends. As in NUNavailable to you at those times."
Brilliant!
Whenever they say 'on-call' always ask if they are complying with all laws and regulations about who can be on a call, for how long, and of course the mandatory overtime pay. And when they tell you you're exempt from being paid for overtime, point out that also means your exempt from on-call. (Warning, laws may very by state and country, read up on your local labor laws first).
Those ideas usually originate from our HQ in the US, but are quickly squatted here in Europe. Apart from european laws and culture I think many people suggesting these things dont comprehend what it costs to hire someone. I work in a high skill industry, finding the right person for the average job can take months. And then they require company specific training, depending on the individual that can be anywhere between 3 to 6 months. From the moment someone leaves, because they are pissed off with management to someone doing the job self sufficiently we are looking at almost a year on average. And that is before we take any of the experience and institutional knowledge the leaving party takes with them into account.
As a manager it is literally my job to balance and MANAGE the needs of the business with the needs of the individual and create an environment where skilled employees can deliver excellent performance for the benefit of the company.
I love your skits, they always help to illustrate how not to do things. ❤
If I may ask what industry you work in?
@@hosam7609 I work for a software company. I think we manage to make a good place to work. It's still work and not a leisure center.... but it's the best place i worked at in my career.
"you are required to inform the company" - does not mean get permission, just an fyi. so:
- i hereby inform you that i will be going away to a location without cell service every single weekend from now on until forever.
Unless the company suddenly produces a birth certificate stating they are one of my parents, Nunya is my mother, father, siblings, and all other relatives and they are the only ones I INFORM of anything outside my scheduled hours.
Also, since it's a request it can be denied... 🤷🏻♀️
Make that every day after work. Yeah sorry boss, my house is off grid. 🤷
As a leader and also as an individual contributor, I have never asked anyone about their off time. If they choose to share, I will hear part of it, but I really believe your time is your time.
I think anyone that is that controlling needs a therapist. If they are putting a family locating device as a administrator over your phone and access that is when I would leave it at home and walk away from it. If someone is trying to control you like that they might have a warped sense of leadership...
I will be off the grid after 4pm every work day and all weekend every weekend. K, thanks. Byyyyeeeeeeeee!
I'm in Europe. I always gave my close colleagues my phone number "just in case". Guess what. Noone ever phoned me. They knew how to do their job.
Yeah, my bf has been at his job for almost 10 years. He hasn't put his number into the official sheet, but several colleagues have it for private purposes and if shit hits the fan. Usually he knows beforehand, if something might come up during the night, but in all those years he's only been called 2-3 times by colleagues who needed his help. He can bill that to the company though.
Love your work. I'm retired now but I handled things pretty much like your videos do. Do your job, be direct and take no prisoners with management when they make unreasonable requests. Always know your own worth.
I run two mobile phones with two numbers
1. Strictly personal in all respects.
2. Business only during normal business hours with my number withheld . If they want an emergency call back I only accept text messages from known managers or colleagues. No emails at any time other than business hours.
I worked at a real estate office where the corporate office more or less inferred each admin for each office would be available by phone (on our personal cells) for the agents 24/7 AND that we would have Outlook on our phones so we could always check and respond to urgent emails. 😐
I flat-out told them when they started paying for my cell phone & put me on salary, I would be happy to comply. Needless to say, none of the above ever came to pass. 🤷🏼♀️
I love your content but I wish it wasn't necessary. The fact that businesses do this is ridiculous. The worst part is is that we as US citizens allow this to happen. We need to fight the system
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@@wlonsdale1 Its not a laughing matter. Families depend on the pay that comes from shit bosses that expect unpaid overtime. It is nothing short of abuse and there is no place for it in civilized society.
Only a feral animal of a man thinks it's funny.
@@wlonsdale1found the person with the brown spot. You're the problem
Being required to be on-call requires fair compensation by law. Most corporations even have that written in their employee handbooks.
@@Ladiofthewoods most being the keyword.
Off the grid starts at the end of my shift and I'm back on the grid when my shift starts. Phones have this thing called a "power button" and you can turn them off.
At my last job, even though nothing was mentioned about being on call during the interviews, I was put on call without any notification, after I had worked there for about 4 months. It was pretty much 24x7, with no comp time and no additional compensation. Looking back, I wish that after the first call, I had just started turning my phone off at night, and forced them to address it directly. The business called me many a night (2am, 3am, etc). I was always expected to report back for work at 8, even if it took me an hour to resolve an issue. Glad I don't work there anymore!
Pretty sure what they did to you was illegal. I get paid $4 an hour to be on call, and if I actually get a call and have to work, I deduct that time from any workday I choose.
@@turquoise_sky I was on salary, so not sure.
I love going to Nunya! All the best stuff is there!!
I’ve had several coworkers I recommend your videos to because, and I quote, you’ve been described as “Growing a spine in corporate speak 101”
Lovely place to visit. Very close to the Kissma Pass.
Years ago, i worked retail. I had Jacka$$ Magiilcutty as a member of "management." She used to walk into the departments asking,"Who wants overtime?!" When we told her we were interested, she would say, "Ok, what day do you want to switch?"
She wasn't giving us overtime. She was simply trying to get workers to switch different days tor her convenience.🤦
She knew what she was doing. She was treating us like a bunch of peons....
I retired from a company that made it clear that work hours and personal time did not mix. The place closed at 5 and EVERYONE left. They had a belief in the work-life balance and believed that this made everyone happier and more productive. No one that had this type of attitude (as in the video)would get anywhere near a management position.
I wish I had the guts to answer my superiors like you do. 😊
You absolutely can, it just takes a bit of practice 😊 Repeating the words she uses in the video, and then try repeating it in front of a mirror to see how you come across. The more you repeatedly practice, the easier it gets! Before you know it, assertiveness has become second nature to you.
You deserve to be treated with respect. You got this 🤗
@@ThatGhostlyStuffGreat comment!
@@ThatGhostlyStuff I believe you can use much of the tone for the reply and repeat the same answer each time asked. I would not give a "nonya" answer unless you are sure how it will be received. Such an answer could be considered inappropriate by many. Generally, I suggest staying with "I will not be available until Monday (or whatever is your next work day).
As a manager of a 10 person team, I don't ask anyone why they request time off. Some of the team shares and others don't, all of which is within their rights.
Love the nunya references.
I have problems with my employer calling and/or texting me on my personal cell phone. If 24/7 contact is required, supply employees with a company phone. Of course this attitude started back in the dark ages before we had unlimited texts and calling and we paid extra for every single text and call.
I agree.
Back in the beginning I never gave out my cell phone number to any business I worked for.
They had my home phone number, and at times they hated this.
Thankfully, I never had a job where I could work from home or remotely in anyway shape or form. The good news about that is that when I’m at work I work and when I walk out the door I’m done.
She needs to team up with "Veronica"
I love your mug…. Very clever 😆
Put the phone in "Airplane" mode.....and tell her to POff....done
Have 2 phones. One personal the other for business. And leave the business one at the company.
Unless you signed for be on call and get the benefits from it (or is your own business). You should only concern yourself for when is your time to work. Outside works hours, is not your problem.
When she says "you are required to inform me should you not be reachable on weekends" Just say "OK, I'm not reachable on weekends... there you've been informed. Toodaloo..."
I’m going through harvest season at the winery I work at this summer. I’m literally going through this at my work. One of my coworkers tries to guilt trip me into feeling like work should be my first priority, while I have other things I’ve scheduled to do and other things I need to get done at my house
All these situations, illustrated quasi-seriously in this series, only arise because of the adversarial culture created by a sheer lack of common-sense. Go back 20 years. No sensible employee would go incommunicado when on Annual Leave because they would WANT their employer to be able to call them if a genuine mission-critical situation arose, which it almost always would not but, in extremis, no-one wants the company that employs them to go out of business. By the precise same token, no manager would intrude on an employee's Annual Leave unless the situation was genuinely mission-critical - not least because the manager has their own Annual Leave which they would like to be similarly respected. We have, however, migrated into a situation where, in some businesses, it would seem that the employer - employee relationship has become adversarial rather than co-operative. No-one gains from that.
I would just say either "yes" or "most probably", don't count on me "having mobile services" whenever I'm off work.
I'm a Trucker. I get a mandatory 10 hrs of minimum between shifts and 34 hrs off minimum after I bump my top out. 60 or 70 hrs a week depending on how your company runs so I know what time I gotta be at work every morning. If my start time is before the 10 is up. I start after my 10 is up. FMCSA don't PLAY. so Rarely does my boss call after hours. If he does it's because something got screwed up. He's gotta fix. But the above still applies.
And he texts everything so there's a record. Pretty good system we got.
I’ve had people shocked why I couldn’t just squeeze some time for meetings during my vacation. Same people would forbid you to call them on theirs. 😂
I had a boss who said,"If I need to call you while you're on vacation, then I am not paying you enough. I think I am paying you enough so I won't call."
Still love that mug!
when I first started my job 5 years ago, my boss had no problem emailing or calling me before work, after work, on weekends, etc. So I documented all that time on the time sheet and turned it in. I have not heard a peep outside work hours since and my boss is religious about "only during your tour of duty times". Must have gotten slapped hard over the almost 10K in overtime...LOL
Damn straight. Like Tim said, the golden rule, Mind your own damn business
I had a supervisor who couldn't judge what was and wasn't an "emergency" who liked to call me at all kinds of weird hours. I "responded" by automatically sending his phone calls to voice mail. 😀
Used to be a fairly avid mountain biker/primitive camper. Was also active duty military... Stayed within the 250 mile liberty bubble almost all the time and made known where I'd be, but briefed seniors and subordinates alike that even if i had service my phone would rarely be on/checked. Most chains of command were supportive cause I'd bust my hump for em. Micromanaging and constant contact do nothing but demonstrate you have no faith in your people. Communicate early and communicate often sure, but I much prefer command by negation. Empowering my guys/gals and trusting em, after ensuring they were adequately trained, made my shops so much happier and more productive!
I refuse even to have a phone. I am NOT a game piece to be shoved around a company board.
I love your video shorts. They're therapeutic. Thank you ❤
This woman would have made a great union negotiator. She has all of the right attributes. Toodles
'Nunya' 😅, I like that and will use it if necessary. In fairness, my employer recognises the need for quality time out of office hours. Quite rightly, you are expected to work hard during your agreed hours, but they understand that to get the best out of people, you need free time to re-charge your batteries.
I’m off grid every weekend. Every night too. And I’m off-off grid every holiday.
This is just location sharing, try managers & other staff trying to control your social media display pictures 😂
I love that place of nunya, and no cell service! It's such a wonderful location!
As a Local Union Officer this was never a problem, at least not for long.
Nunya business is the new Todalooo 😂
I love this channel
Less than 20 years ago, before cellphones were common, if you were out of the office and not in your home, the company accepted that they couldn't contact you. And companies were fine with it, no companies went under because of it.
But niw, with the introduction of cellphones, companies seem to think they have a god-like right to control every second of your day. All stemming from cellphones.
The coffee cup…… the handle is a “C” 😂
I would have been like my lawyer is reachable on weekends if you want something. Maybe they would respect unpaid time at that point.
You look great in yellow
I used to work on call when on shift. We were staffed as high as 8 days on 6 off. You had your hourly pay with no on call pay but if you got a call on off the clock I guess there was a minimum of 2 hours call out. When off shift there was no expectation of a work call unless just coordination of who is covering for you or if you wanted to work an extra day.
Why does anyone feel the need to explain themselves to their employer?
Even on sick/personal days, I send an email to my boss and the comptroller w/ the subject line "Personal Day (the day's date)". Done! Not even a body of message, reasoning, explanation, nothing.
Never gets old, I tell ya!
I would think by now boss would see that coming 😉
I am never reachable on weekends
I had a boss who told me my job came before my family. This was after i had two days off when my 3year old was ill ( i rang in to say i wouldn't be in ) i walked out , no job comes before my sick child...i also reported them to my local job centre
Nenya is a beautiful place. Plush rainforest, vast meadows, and overarching mountain tops
makes you want to record ALL conversations with muddle managers, so you can send copies to the higher-ups and to labor relations boards.
I had a freelance client who used to call me 24/7 to answer questions, even when I was out of state. And she got angry if I didn't answer. I told her if she kept calling, that I would be charging her for my time, in half hour increments... meaning if she called me for a 5 minute conversation, she eould be invoiced for 30 minutes the next billing cycle. The nuisance phone calls stopped.
If no money is what I'll be making after business hours, no thing is what I will do for the business after business hours.
If you accept now being 'on call' 24/7 for the same pay it means you took a 66.6% pay cut. You're really moving up in the world.
Nunya... that's a good one. I should use that sometimes
You are soooo good! This was my corporate job to a T, which is why I quit my management position! Love your content! 👏👏
EXCELLENT...
I really REALLY like that coffee cup.😂
“Nunya” lol
She doesn’t grab the mug by the back enough. IMO
Normal companies know that they need to make on call official and scheduled (to rotate who is on call).
I really thought the answer was just going to be "No" lol
I read the reviews employees post about conditions at their workplace before applying for a job anywhere. No good, no go! Don't forget to review your employer for those who follow.
I was a 911 dispatcher. On call 24/7 365 unless on vacation. Only guarantee we had is if you you had to have 8hrs off a day so you could end up going 16 on 8 off for days. I worked 23 days in a row
I wish more jobs had written job descriptions.
My ex-job wanted me to be available for calls when on a 7 day holiday ................ on a cruise ship ........... in the middle of the ocean ............... nah 😂
American work “ethics” and healthcare is appalling………..
I leave work at 18:00. They will never call. I told them I will NEVER be available for any overtime….they don’t call. I go on holiday. They don’t ask where I’m going……..on my days off…they don’t call……
I had an aortic aneurism repair three years ago. 8 1/2 hours surgery, ten days recovery in hospital, all medication necessary to keep me alive. Cost to me….. £0.00, paid for by my taxes and insurance contributions. ALSO as I was off work for ONE YEAR after, my company still paid my salary - in full……
America! What is YOUR government doing with YOUR taxes?
Love the cup
I started using an auto reply I saw on here: “I will have limited access to email and teams because I will be limiting my access to email and teams.” people still email and message, I just ignore them and set my phone to a profile that ignores outlook and teams notifications.
I will be going somewhere with no cell service between the hours of 5pm and 9am every week day and 24 hours of the day on Saturday and Sunday.
Timing at the end 💯
Nanya business ❤😂
These videos are stupid funny.
Because when you sign a contract, your job desacription will include a line at the end where you must do all the taks given you to by your superior rank, no matter what they are.
It's you job. They order you to wash the toilets, even if you're a sales rep, if you don't you didn't do your jog as per your responsabilities.
If you find a place where they don't have such lines where they tell you "and other tasks given by the superior chain command" you keep that job as much as possible.
Of course, this assumes you're not a generic slave on plantation without a contract, that can be let go any second someone has an iffy life and decided to simply brush you off.
I know author is proactively warning us about negative workplace influences. I can imagine a 'storyline' series where antagonists cannot resolve a reaction without stress and emotional release, 'the comeuppance episodes'.
My dad used to work for the government, so he had to inform them anytime he planned to leave the country and then check in with the local embassy when we got there.
Nope. If you're not paying me, you don't get any control over what I do with that time (with exceptions for things like misrepresenting the company, badmouthing them on social media, etc, which I could understand would be frowned upon.)
👍😁🤣👍😁🤣 nunya, non of your business.
"Assume i will not be reachable outside of my scheduled shift hours"
nah don't even start with the mention of the road trip
small talk needed for rapport building but it's a slippery slope where you can divulge things that can be used against you
The only excuse is "for safety" and that's really only if you actually want the people in your office to know anything lol like I'd tell my boss. But he also yells at me when I don't take time off
I struggle to imagine this coming up "late" at a new job, but I certainly wouldn't smile politely during the conversation.
But theb, German law is _rather_ clear about such topics.
Nunya stories are the best!
Until i see proof otherwise, via a birth certificate stating the company is one of my parents or relative, Nunya is my mother, father, siblings, and all other blood relatives, and barely then do i INFORM them of my actuvities outside of scheduled times.
My wife worked for Nat West Bank in tunbridge wells about 25 years ago , he female boss insisted she be available on the phone even when we were on HOLIDAY in France , I got very angry .
She got demoted in the end for bullying . Yep Karen , that was you if you read this .
I legit laughed the second she said Nunya.
It’s real simple people, just don’t answer! Problem solved.
Wow 1984 already!