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How does one come to the conclusion that killing someone is less trouble then being like "I didn't know your age. We can't be together because it's illegal"
I know. It should have been a no brainer. He was 18 and made some very poor choices partly because of his youth. But he was also a psychopath who attacked a young girl with a shovel and a knife. He is where he belongs, and so is his deranged female friend. Nicole is gone forever, but they won't be in jail forever. Something seems wrong with that. The primes of their lives will pass them by while incarcerated though, and they will have plenty of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
I was about to comment something similar. He thought he crossed a line by being romantically involved in some way with a 13 year old and "couldn't take it back", but you can't take back murder either and will receive worse consequences if caught.
This is always the kind of rationalizing we see from psychopaths and narcissists. Their reputation and having an easy life means more to them than the lives of other human beings. Many of them are also too stupid and self-absorbed to think about the consequences of murder.
She was a child. The sobering reality of hearing she took her "minions blanket" with her, really drove home the fact she was a child who was naive, and too trusting of the world. This story is so heartbreaking. R.I.P baby girl. 😞💔
@@azazello1784 What a stupid answer is that. Anyone can do crimes at any age. A 10 year old can do a crime, does that mean there are not a kid? Just because kids can be violent and dangerous doesn't mean they are equal to an adult. They will always be more vulnerable and naive and easier to be taken advantage of. Can you even compare a 13 year old girl with a 30 year old woman? Who is going to be more dangerous? Who is going to be an easier victim?At 13 I didn't even had my period and I still played with dolls. Come one now let's not equalize little kids with damn grown adults
It always creeps me out when people describe girls as "young women." A 13 year old is not a young woman... A woman is defined as an adult female, thus a young woman is a young adult female, not a child. Calling this girl a young woman just makes my skin crawl.
It’s 2022. Things are a lot different these days. Yes, a 13 year old is a child. Under 18 is a child, none should have access to internet just like cigarettes and what not.
You're aware that 13 year old females get their periods right? So if she's old enough to have a kid in your book she's STILL NOT a woman? Well if it's not a biological event that draws the line to you then please share with us all what in your book 'happens' to which you then can call a girl 'a woman'?
I don't know how to say this and make it comprehensible to the younger generations: No matter how mature you feel; no matter how much you want to be treated as an adult; no matter how m7ch life-experience you think you've gained in your short time on Earth you DO NOT, nor will you ever know more than your parents. Being called a child is not a derogatory term, it's what you are, so embrace it, because you only live it for a very brief moment.
This message is one that should be shouted from the rooftops. Frequently. All over the world. As a GenX, I am forever grateful I was able to grow up without social media, smart phones, etc.
Seriously, it's true. I see comments from teenagers that are still under 18, acting like they know better. I remember feeling that way myself, teens just do. But, they just have no idea..the prefrontal cortex is still not fully developed till late 20s, and you can literally feel and know when that realization happens.
Lol bet she considered herself a “young women” and was probably called a young women by everyone when in reality she is a scared little girl who should not have had access to the internet
How can you laugh about the situation. The narrator called her young woman she didn't consider herself a young woman she wouldn't have brought her minion blanket if she did!
What's scary about her story is I could've been her when I was a teen. I would sneak out of the house and meet strange guys. This was in the late 90's and early 00's. when we had myspace and party lines to socialize. I'm so fortunate I never met a psycho and I'm still alive. Now I think about all the dangerous situations I put myself in. Back in my younger years I didn't think nothing bad could happen to me. I just wish she had the chance to live to see my age and can look back and learn from her mistakes but it's too late.
Exactly my situation. I was addicted to AOL chat rooms in the late 90’s early 2000’s. My mom and I were just talking about my teens and what she was worried about while raising me. Ugh it makes me sick to think what could of happened.
It’s a very eye opening experience for sure i was not much older than her and from the same area she was and I did the same but fortunately got very lucky, as a young girl I didn’t take it very seriously but now as a young woman I wish I would’ve taken it more seriously.
@@cecemccain2275I love how you say the children in this situation are sick and not the grown adult men that want to be with them 😂 are you a predator too?
It's so sad to think about a poor young girl who just wanted to feel accepted and loved is lead to her own brutal murder simply for seeking out that love and acceptance. Breaks my heart 💔😔
So dumb and so fucked. How does this "solve their problem?" He could have just stopped meeting with her when he realized she was 13, or not fucked around on KIK like a pedophile in the first place. The only "problem" he had was the one he made for himself. Nicole's death was the answer to a question nobody asked except these two failed psychos. I suppose it went something like "how do I ruin my life and a child's as well for as little justification as possible." Truly a try-hard failure at everything in life. And Nicole's only mistake was being young, naive and insecure. Sickening.
To all parents: there are apps and settings that mirror your kids' phone activities to you. You can even tell your kids upfront that you need to do this and that nobody caring about them will seduce them to get around it. Even adults fall for online predators in lonely moments.
thats ok the other people they talk to will just get them a burner phone to use in that case. And if you dont think thats happens then you probably dont know half the things kids are doing these days
ummm no….i’m old enough to know that not get into dangerous stuff on the internet im 16 turning 17 def know better but maybe parents should do that when ur 13 and younger
@@SpanishArmadaProd This is why you have communication with your children and help them learn to establish their own boundaries. So, they will know the reasons why someone would suggest using a burner phone and the way it lets someone get away with exploiting them. They can be aware of consequences and choose for themselves not to have a burner.
This. It’s important to monitor your children’s online activities, and it’s also about helping them establish their own boundaries. That’s the TL;DR They have to know what to say online or what to keep private, including displaying neediness or vulnerability, and how it attracts predators looking to exploit them. They should be reminded regularly and we need to have conversations about things like this - to impress upon them the reasons why it’s so dangerous. We need to teach our children that it’s a big red flag for someone to push their boundaries or try to get around them by pressuring or manipulative tactics. Our children need to be able to recognize unspoken signs and signals that indicate someone’s intentions. They should know when their boundaries are being threatened, what to say to protect their boundaries when challenged, and what to keep private or express only to close friends and family. Offering them another outlet than the internet or us as parents for expressing their feelings, and a way to give them privacy to express themselves is also important. I know it must have been very exciting and flattering for her to have the attention of someone online - particularly a college athlete. She might have even believed she was being smart to meet him in a public place that first time. She probably thought she was avoiding the dangers of being catfished and that she could rely on her own judgment to protect herself. She didn’t know that the red flag was already there. I don’t believe for one minute that he didn’t know she wasn’t 16/17 before they met. He would have immediately known how different their levels of maturity and experience were. They had nothing in common for any kind of relationship. He would know what a girl her age wanted: attention and a boyfriend. She had no experience to agree to a sexual relationship or even understand how that might affect her. He knew very well that he was in control, that it was a complete imbalance of power. She probably didn’t know her very inexperience made her so vulnerable. Or that he was enjoying that, preying on it to get what he wanted.
You speak truth and give good advice but these people are blind for the most part and they think it's infringing on the rights of their 12-year-old if they interact whatsoever and this is why Society is crumbling because everyone wants to cry when tragedy happens but no one gives a s*** to prevent it
This is why I'm not at all against parents monitoring what their children do online. There's tons of sick people out there that will prey upon and take advantage of children. RIP Nicole
@@Dizzy_Threads I was doing stuff online I had no business doing as a kid. Thankfully my parents asked me quite often what I was doing and made me show them every once in a while. It's so sad what some people do to kids.
I agree they do not have the right to privacy while they live with you. It’s our job to know what’s going on in their lives specially in these teen years when they’re extra sneaky
I never understand people who claim its an invasion of privacy um no...not with all these stories out there. It's negligence to not keep tabs on your child.
7:03 Seeing Nicole tearing up with the caption "Nobody cares about me" breaks my heart completely. 😢😢😢 To go through such loneliness and sadness especially for someone as young as Nicole is heartbreaking. My deepest condolences to her family. RIP Sweet Nicole. ♥️🙏♥️
“He slept that night *possibly haunted* by his actions?” Only a fool would think that someone can plan out a heinous act like this and then immediately feel genuine remorse. Fear? Sure. Anxiety? Yeah. Remorse. No.
Is it just me, or is everyone else confused af when people commit murder to attempt covering up a smaller (smaller than murder) crime!!!!?? Good grief! The cost of someone's mistake is that of an innocent girl. 🙏
Absolutely, so wrong on so many levels. He could have just sent her home when meeting her first, seeing for real that she was just 13. He could have told her parents. But no, he chose the stupid irresponsible psycho route.
This guy, after realising people his age don't believe his made up stories, he went after a child. Someone who couldn't yet tell what is believable or not, and thus couldn't see how much of a monster he was. RIP Nicole, and I hope her family and loved ones have good lives.
Oh this broke my heart. How vulnerable we are as teens to be loved and excepted. I hope her family can find peace, no Mom should have to live with this.
We don't have to share the planet with them. They make wonderful organ donors and the lives their organs save make up for, in a small way, the damage they have done to the children, families and all of us who actually give a sh*t.
Same. You never know what anyone is capable of. And some people simply are evil. Eisenhauer seems like a narcissist and a psychopath. His accomplice seems sorry she got caught and humiliated and ruined her family. I don't believe for a second they feel remorse for the horror they put a child through though. I think they thought they were somehow above this poor child (they were not) by their academic and athletic success. And above the law. They were wrong on all counts.
Kills me that instead of immediately going to the police after her creepy friend admitted to assaulting a child, whether he was lying or not, Rivers first instinct was to defend him, and not the little girl. Women and girls go through enough in this world. We have to protect each other.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow Lol, not another "women can be violent too!" No shit they can, but lets not act like the majority of the content on channels like this aren't documented male perpetrators. Men commit 90% of violent crimes.
@@robotv8707 depends tbh. Impulse crimes? Absolutely. Theft, murder, rape, all of it almost entirely dominated by men, no doubt. But to pretend that's something special is asinine. Do you maintain that same attitude when we discuss race-crime statistics? I'm genuinely curious if you're honestly a neutral soul, or just someone piddling about something they THINK they feel passionately about?
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow Leave it to people like you to bring up race. When it doesn't change the fact that most men are dangerous even those without a record of crime. These men are never held accountable by other men either. Why is that? The original post was stating women need to protect each other because men surely aren't and you had to go all "not all men!" Lol.
@@morganjane exactly. And it really annoys me, I can't figure out where I know the voice from or I mean in case the voice isn't just similar. No matter what, an amazing voice for this.
Natalie is extra bizarre to me because she got involved in this as a willing participant, seemingly “for the fun of it.”She thought it was exciting and entertaining. I vaguely remember her interrogation videos and she was talking in the most causal tone of voice, and her text messages with David were giddy when talking about it.
I have 13 & 15 year old sons. I raise them alone and they're great kids. I'm a father first, a friend second. I always make sure to be involved in every aspect, all while trying to impart wisdom and good choices upon them. Teenagers are especially vulnerable, being between childhood and adulthood. Easily decieved and very trusting. Just a unimaginably terrifying outcome!
And you see, sometimes we talk to them, show how it can be, give good example and guidance and even so they can try something risky. Sometimes they are just lucky but sometimes terrible things can happen. We just pray to God to protect our kids because even being good parents we can't do it all the time.
Thank y'all! I haven't even so much as been on a date for 5 years. I put every bit of my being into raising them & they're very appreciative of that! They kinda got lucky that I'm a really good cook, and have O.C.D as far as cleaning goes, so our house is spotless lol. Luckily my 15 year old is a housecat who's idea of a good time is hanging out at home with me. My 13 year old is extremely social and wants to go hangout with friends, go to the YMCA, football games, etc. I really try to find a good balance with him. He's got upset only a couple times, but a couple hours later he said he knows it's because I love him & it shows that I care. I'm so grateful to have my kids home and healthy! I feel so sorry for any parent that loses a child, especially a violent death!
@@MartineH1 Absolutely! My youngest seems determined to learn some things the hard way! I did as well! As you said, you hope and pray and do your best!
Such a tragic story. I'm glad I grew up in the era I did, with no social media and just hanging out at an arcade, bowling alley, and meeting guys in school instead of on social media. I hope her parents are comforted by their memories of Nicole and may her killers face hell every day in prison. RIP Nicole, too young to leave this life.
I totally agree with u 💯 on that! I have a 14 year old son and I’m honestly scared for what the world holds for him .. things are so much more complicated now! Especially with social media and being able to track anybody’s location and movement. These kids nowadays don’t know the severity of what comes with talking to strangers on social media. Like what u said days were so much easier back in the day..
@@mayav927 Yeah, likely just as much, but you would only hear thte local murders. Back then the world was much smaller in a sense and the scope was much tinier simply because of the lack of equipment for communicating and spreading information. Present day information spreads within seconds, so it is very easy to get bogged down by all the depressing news and stuff. So nowadays it feels worse, but I don't think this generation is somehow more evil because of a cell phone and internet. In fact I would argue that many murders "back in the day" went cold because of the lack of DNA biometrics, which changed the WHOLE game, so it's not that murders have gotten more or worse. We are just more aware of the dangers around us. (I am positive someone will somehow take offense to this.) edit quick search shows that violence peaked in the 1980s and has drastically decreased. Murders were at their lowest roughly in the mid 2000s, but have slowly been increasing again (still lower than 1980s). Gee wizz maybe the world just isn't safe regardless what years you got to live in. Almost like we're the same species of humans lol
@@blueindigoqueen7077 That is where you come in. Impress upon him the dangers. Or ask him to watch these with you and discuss them. I raised three. Luckily the internet was new and they were not too interested. Keep an eye out and be open for him. You and he will do fine. 😉
I'm new to the channel. There's a lot of channels that cover crime stories but this is the only channel that starts off with sympathy's to the families, I think it's wonderful that your channel does it. 💙🙏💙
These predators are entering our children's room through the internet and taking them right out of their beds. Innocence lost by brutal means. My warmest thoughts go out to each family that is missing a child today.
@x5j94 I think that is an absurd statement. And it is definitely not normal! In these other countries where the girls learn modesty, as you say, that modestly is brought on by the fact that even if something happens to them that is not their fault, they will be killed by a family member. That is not modesty, that is absolute terror.
@x5j94 Honor killings happen in other countries. And the person I was replying to removed his comments, so you are not getting the entire conversation.
@x5j94 the bottom line is that a little girl was brutalized by a sick predator. And that's a tragedy. I'm not interested in your opinion of me or what you presume about me. And as far as I am concerned this conversation is over.
@@scottashe984Does it fuck 😂 Dude in my school got sent down for 3 years for having weed on him, didn’t have any prior convictions either, all he had was weed. Didn’t have intent to sell it either and he still got 3 years. Girl I know assaulted her kid and got 6 months, the justice system is completely fucked up.
This is why you HAVE to have those hard conversations with your children! My 7 year old already knows about sexual abuse/pedophiles because as horrible as it is for a child to know about that stuff it's straight up negligent in my mind not to keenly inform them of every possible red flag. He knows exactly what to do if anyone ever tries to do something to him or lure him somewhere and understands that no matter what they tell him, it's not his fault if an adult makes him feel uncomfortable or is being inappropriate towards him and I'm certain he would feel comfortable telling us so we could help him but only because hes been made aware of all the ways an adult might try to manipulate him. If someone had spoken to this girl candidly about what could happen to her if she ever trusted a total stranger than maybe she would have been more aware of the signs of a predator.
Oh here we go with the supercilious guardians using the story of a child's death as an opportunity to share with us why they're a superior parent. This may shock you but most parents teach their children about potential predators & the harm they bring, this is common sense. You're supposed to teach your kids these things. However, not many parents are willing to risk damaging their child's mind by telling them what sexual abuse is. Telling them the places they shouldn't be touched & that strangers can take them away & hurt them gets the point across. Young minds are not ready for that info & it could generate confusion, shock, fear, panic, disgust, curiosity, fascination, guilt, misunderstanding, & lead to very bad mental health. You wouldn't know whether or not her parents "had spoken" to her. If you think a teen with image issues is just going to stop talking to boys online just because she's told of what could happen then you might find yourself in this situation, God forbid. To think that these kids are completely clueless about how dangerous it is to meet people online is foolish. Grown people know & still do it. She certainly knew what she was doing was wrong. You can preach to them everyday but if parents don't monitor & limit their activity, this happens.
@curiouser-and-curiouser Oh what do you know? Take your long rambling comment and quit acting like you’re so well versed in children’s mental health. Nothing wrong with giving your child the tools they need to stay safe. Blah, blah, blah. I’m assuming you don’t have kids or a degree in child psychology. So shhsh with your holier than thou rhetoric. 👌🏼
When I was a teenager, I had little/no supervision. A man called me - I didn’t know who it was - asking me to model for him for $$$. I needed $ so I said, “Sure!” I never heard back from him. I cringe now at my young innocent self making bad decisions. Thankfully, I made it out of that time period alive! RIP, Natalie and the thousands of young people who didn’t survive. 😢
I did the same, but I left with this man so he can take pictures of me on the beach.😱 This was before cell phones. Thank god he didnt kill me & dropped me off. I lived in a big apartment complex so he didnt know where I lived.
I had the "modelling job" trick attempts a few times too as a teen. None calling me, they would be creepy guys on the street or public transport. Thankfully I never met with any. Aside from those tricks, it's really disturbing the amount of dodgy men all teenage girls used to experience and still do. Everyone I know seems to have multiple stories, so just how many are out there at any given time?! 😬
This is so unbelievably tragic. As a parent who has just lost my son at 19 It hurts to know what this family is going through. It’s a life sentence😢 We do our best to protect our children but as our technology & social media expands, so do the sick criminal minds 🙏🏻💔RIP sweet soul prayers to family♥️
There was absolutely no "reason" to kill this girl. She hadn't threatened to turn him in, wasn't pregnant, nothing. These 2 were just monsters looking for an excuse to act out their sick thoughts. 😡
when her lawyer made a defense i also thought most is like accessory too and thought she was gon get off easy but he gave her 2x the recommended sentence good judge
Ugh this makes me so sad. She probably felt so special and mature and cool to have this older guy her for taking a midnight drive. Probably not knowing what was at the end of that road for her.
It is obvious its dangerous to meet people online.. but until you have been so alone that it feels like your only chance at make friends, you wont get it. We need to give our kids the attention they need as growing minds and personalities. I met people online, and was lucky to be safe. I don’t recommend it, but we should look into why our kids feel like they need to do this! Not guilt them and make them feel bad.
Teens only want others attention though. Like even if the parents were giving her a lot of attention she would have still been wanting validation from her peers
This reminds me A HECK of a lot of Slyler Neese. Her friends lured her out late at night . She left through her window. They killed her together and left her in the cold.
In my mind, whether they are psychopaths/sociopaths or people “with a problem” that went too far is a distinction without a difference. Neither of them should take a breath as free people ever again.
Nicole will be gone forever, but these two monsters will not be in jail forever. Something doesn't quite seem right about that. But the primes of their lives will pass them by during their periods of incarceration, and they will have a lot of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
I say this ALL THE TIME! why do people judge outward appearance!? You gotta have DISCERNMENT! You can have a rich kid that's a freaking psycho, and a homeless person a SAINT! Wake up folks! Trust your gut! RIP sweet soul 💕
What in the actual F is wrong with people, I mean seriously wtf??? I just don’t get how they came to the conclusion that this was a good idea. No one can convince me that these two people were seemingly normal up to this point in their lives, how do you go from college and working on becoming adults to murdering a child. When I heard about her taking the minions blanket from her house it broke my heart, this was an innocent child……….. my thoughts and prayers to all affected…
No "innocent child" knowingly hooks up with a 18+ guy. She concealed that she was only 13 years old until they met! Obviously all the blame for the murder is on those 2 people that were charged. But what the hell was the girl doing?
She made a immature mistake and kids do that everyday but most kids are allowed to learn from those mistakes but In this case that right was taken from her by these monsters.
That’s what every teenager who watches TH-cam should take away from this…… They might be the ones who are unlucky enough to not learn from their mistakes. They aren’t bullet proof and it can happen to them
@@BornIn1500 it's a confidence thing, but there is more than that at play. This one was hard to listen to because I was this girl when I was about her age, and unless you are this character in the story, it's very hard to understand the mindset. Her home life didn't sound all that bad, no outward abuse, but the kids at school probably weren't gathering around her in groups to get her autograph. You feel isolated and lonely when everyone else is getting lots of friends, talking boyfriends, doing cool things on the weekends, and you...aren't. You aren't all the confident because of how you look or how you act, and all of a sudden here is someone that doesn't judge you, that wants to talk to you about your day, that makes you feel like you are the best part of their day. The messages might not even be sexual, they might be friendly, and that friendliness keeps coming. Soon you feel prettier, happier because someone accepts you, likes you, and life is starting to feel pretty good. Then they start professing love, and you might never have seen this person you're talking to, or maybe you have, and you start falling head over heels. Nothing else matters, because this person makes you feel all the things you want to feel. Then they want to meet, and your heart is going a mile a minute and you can't wait and nothing is going to get in your way of meeting this amazing person that you are sure will take care of you, cherish you, love you and give you all those things you ever wanted. You're not thinking rationally, you just want to meet this person. That explains all of the things she took with her, down to the blanket. I met a 45 year old man on AOL chatrooms (you know, the A/S/L days) back in the day. He lived 2.5 from me, made his age no secret. I told him I was 16, thinking I was cool. I was 14. I don't remember if I ever told him the truth. Our 'relationship' was over a year before my parents found out, and they never would have found out if I hadn't given him the landline number, and he called right in front of my mom. NEVER sexual in any conversation, and no pictures. Ever. We had no idea what each other looked like. That was the day my dad called the FBI. My own story never got further than that (I'm typing this in my mid-30s and its surprising how much I remember of this event). Only thing this guy ever lied to me about was apparently his age, and he was 49. Yes, he was still a pedo, and no, just like I told the cops when they told me his age, I still didn't care how old he was. Because the conversing with him was giving me so much more than any interactions with my parents, who couldn't be bothered with me. But he was still a pedophile, and he knew what he was doing, and apparently I wasn't the first. Now that I'm older, I'm so glad my parents stepped in. Until I heard this girl's story, I thought I was the only one. This guy was a pedophile, any way you slice it. He was in the wrong in that as soon as he saw or had any incling at ALL that she was under 18, he should have stepped on the gas and never looked back. Never met her. But he didn't. He wanted to play the "oh, but my reputation!" card, but he still did what he did, and then when he didn't want it to get out...that poor girl had everything ripped away from her without hesitation, and that poor family was left suffering the whiplash from it all. 😢
Could you imagine sitting in on the trial of you daughters murder and the kid not even trying to sound sincere while giving the fake apology his attorney wrote him..
I so much appreciate you sending thoughts to the family of this little lady at the beginning of the video. ♥ Not all channels take the time to do that so the ones that do really stand out. This story was a Heartbreaker. Bless her Lil heart, she was a beautiful little girl.
I'm literally shaking writing this comment, first of all R.I.P little angel and second of all,I pray the family heals from this tragic event,last they should take these evil monsters and anyone like them and it should be a law to inflict the same horrific pain they did to their victims again my prayers and heart goes out to her family 🙏🏿😔🕊️
I feel really lucky to still be here I did so much stupid shit as a child preteen and teen and still I am alive and breathing … I feel horrible that this happened to her :(
I’m shocked that I’ve never heard of this case. Poor Nicole! She was so very young and vulnerable. She just wanted the same thing we all do, to be understood, cared for and validated. It breaks my heart bc I was just like her at that age. I just, luckily for me, was never found by a predator like she was. Probably because I was born in the early eighties, so social media and cellphones weren’t mainstream yet. Just so sad. Rest in peace and love, sweet Nicole.
This is why my family made me watch Unsolved Mysteries and Americas Most Wanted. Our children need to know about this dark world but they should keep some of that innocence. Maybe if she had "the talk" about the internet and who is behind the screen, she would have been more cautious. RIP little angel.
This was horrific and my heart breaks for this child and her family. However I appreciate your covering of this story because I feel the need to share it with my own daughter to show her that horrible things do happen right here in VA.
My daughter was using her school laptop to talk online while at school!! Went on for who knows how long but we didn't find out until she slipped up. She thought she sent the online girl a message but sent it to me instead. Then we opened up a can of worms we had no idea about. All this girl did was prey on our daughters low self-esteem and struggles with body dysmorphia she knew exactly what to say and that was it. I have a niece who fell victim to online predator aswell. Zero clue she was talking to an adult for 3 years!!! These kids are smart they know how to hide a lot and when a predator gets in to their lives they teach them how to hide stuff more efficiently from everyone online is the predators play ground 😥
It's hard to understand how someone's brain can get so twisted. And for him to find a girl with the same twisted way. People like this deserve to suffer, but they won't.
I hear what you're saying. But prison isn't a cakewalk. I've heard it described a lot like serving in the military 24/7, except without the pay. Or like slavery. Every aspect of your life is controlled on some level. It's a lot of "hurry up and wait". Not "Hell on Earth" but not somewhere you want to be, ever. And they will be in prison the VAST MAJORITY of their lives (without parole.) She will get out when she's 60, and no sooner. He will get out when he's 70, and no sooner. *IF* they survive, they'll only have a few short years of freedom. Ideally these people will learn the suffering they've caused and suffer in turn from that guilt. If not guilt for the lives of the family of the victim they murdered, guilt for their own lives which they've ruined. Guilt for their own families. And know that's where they actually should be. And know they can never really make it right. Non-existence would be preferable to me than living like that.
god I remember being her age and doing the exact same things one kik and omegle- only thing different was that i knew never to disclose any personal information. its terrifying to think about what she went through and to imagine that if i wasnt as internet educated as i was at the time the possibility of it happening to me could've been way higher. even then i did some STUPID things when i was 13-15 that i look back and think "wow how the hell am i still here". i feel so sorry for this girl and i dont understand how omegle and kik are still a thing sometimes
You can see the pain in her father's eyes when he is asking her to come home. That made me cry. I feel terrible for her family. RIP Nicole. Prayers for her loved ones.
I am so lucky that nothing like this happened to me when I was a kid. I was way too trusting and since MySpace and social media was JUST becoming popular when I was in my early teens, kids in my age group were like the guinea pigs of the internet. I met so many creeps and I'm 110% sure I came into contact with honest to God predators when I was a kid online. Keep your kids safe folks! This is no joke.
This happened in my hometown. Nicole went to church with my daughter and nieces. This was absolutely heartbreaking. My oldest niece took it really hard since they also went to school together 💔. Rest in Peace Coley.
All I've caught so far for the place this happened in is Western Verginia. I'm only a short way into the video so far & it might be mentioned later, but if not, can I please ask what town this took place in? I'm very sorry to hear of this terrible crime and that it happened where you are. If it's a somewhat small town it's already deep in the psyche of everyone there. When people hear of crimes like this it's easy to overlook everyone else who this has impacted. Of course family and friends immediately come to mind but often not those who have always been around throughout the victims life, in the peripheral. I hope the healing is well underway for everyone there, although all parents of these types crimes against their children aren't afforded that gift that with the passage of time lets them heal easier as their loss & pain runs too deep for any meaningful healing to really take place, until many years later, if at all. Sorry, I'm just rambling now. Thank you for your time if you respond. I appreciate it. Take care my friend 💛
@Julia Blacksburg is in Southwest VA, we're about 45mins from TN and North Carolina. It's a smallish town, biggest thing about Blacksburg is Virginia Tech and the Hokies.
@@_S.D._ it seems odd to me that the 13 year old girl went to church yet snuck out of her house late at night to be with a boy. What did she learn at church?
I mean something had happened between them for this guy to think he needed to murder a kid plus he grown ass adult that was on an app that had a lot of kids and teens looking for "relationships" not a good look on a college-age guy
@@acm3047 either way, he is where he belongs now. Nicole will be gone forever, but these two monsters will not be in jail forever. Something doesn't quite seem right about that. But the primes of their lives will pass them by during their periods of incarceration, and they will have a lot of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
From what I learned of this story prior to thos video, I believe Nicole was pregnant, or claimed or believed herself to be pregnant. This terrified the murderer as he feared jail time and ruination of his college sports career.
Christ this comment sent shivers down my spine, really made it sink in how young this girl actually was. I think most people don't really interact with 12 or 13 year olds, so in their mind, they're just like, "yeah thats really young, so its fucked up," but when you put it this way -- it makes it more real, and reminds you of a time when you were that age.
This brought up all sorts of horrid memories for me. I was the victim of a groomer on kik when I was 11-13. He got me to do a lot of things, I'm sure there's CP of me somewhere in the depraved corners of the internet but I never gave him what state I was from or what my real name was, he said that he wanted to come help me run away and we could be happy together, he claimed to be 27. I told him my mom wouldn't let me run away and that he couldn't know my name or we'd both get in trouble. I don't doubt that had it not been drilled into my head from the moment I got my kindle that I was never to tell people who didn't know me personally my name or state, I could've ended up like Nicole.
My deepest, most heartfelt sympathy to her family and friends. I can't even fathom what kind of pain parents go through when their child is taken in such a violent way. I truly hope her life on the other side is full of amazing adventures. Virtual Hugs to the family, from Canada.
The way she was slaughtered is so dispicable. So intense brutal. I feel so sorry for her and her loved ones. This must be inbearable to live with. Poor little girl who thought that she was running away with the love of her life. She was just a kid. So sorry for her.
I am a parent to four daughters and one son, and the dad’s reaction had me so sad that I felt sick. My heart truly breaks for this family! I just hope that this CHILD didn’t have to suffer for too long during this unspeakable act! It sadly won’t bring her back, but I’m certainly glad that those two monsters were swiftly brought to justice!
Another heartbreaking moment is when her dad says that if she doesn't take her medications she (he lowers his voice) is gonna die... Even the thought of it was scary for him and reality must have ruined his life....
My sister-in-law worked in the Montgomery County DA's office when this case happened. This was one of thise cases that REALLY hit her hard. That ends up being extremely hard on the entire family because they can't discuss the cases with anybody but you can SEE it weighing extremely hard on her & it just got worse everyday. If you know anyone that works on processing & prosecuting these cases make sure you periodically check on them. Even if they tell you they're good give them a certificate for a spa day, offer to babysit so they can have a date night or anything you know they would really appreciate as a way to decompress. Holding in what they can't tell you is just as hard as actually seeing it for the 1st time & working it daily. That's why I think it's easier on my Aunt & Cousin. They own a mother daughter Cadaver & Search Dog Kennel. When they work a case they always work it together. Being able to discuss it with eachother is a HUGE mental help for both of them.
As a mother with kids who are quickly approaching this point in adolescence. I so, so nervous about what (or who) they might encounter online. While I always strive to be a parent who respects my kids privacy in a way mine did not, I know I'll be walking a fine line in a few years. I hope Nicole's parents find peace and her story serves as a warning to other kids as well as parents who might be too lax with their online monitoring.
I had parental controls on Nicole's (Coley) she found away around those she did stuff on her friends phone or computer so you know thought I did everything right as parent. Boy I was so wrong. Don't ever think it can't happen to you. Because it can. Best way is to talk to your preteens am give them examples I have went an talk to a group of teens an told them Nicole's story. I hope it helps. I blame myself everyday it's nothing but a nightmare I pray for other families that have preteens I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy 💔
The way things are going, pretty soon it will be just 10 years for murder. Welcome to the new punishment for terrible acts. I long for the ole "eye for an eye" justice.
Nicole will be gone forever, but these two monsters will not be in jail forever. Something doesn't quite seem right about that. But the primes of their lives will pass them by during their periods of incarceration, and they will have a lot of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
What is SO scary is that I used to live in apartments close by here in the 90s. I've also snuck out at night, crawling through my bedroom window. It's insane how reckless kids can be! I never thought anything like this would happen to me. This happens to other kids. Have lots and lots of conversations with your kids about the dangers that lurk out there! Even in a small town like Blacksburg.
Nicole will be gone forever, but these two monsters will not be in jail forever. Something doesn't quite seem right about that. But the primes of their lives will pass them by during their periods of incarceration, and they will have a lot of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
I did so many dangerous things as a kid because I felt so grown up. It makes my heart hurt with fear for all of the kids in the world who are like I was. Some of them never get to grow up and learn better.
I remember this case very well. My daughter was 15 when this happened and went thru the I know it all phase. She secretly got on computer and agreed to meet some creep. Thankfully, I caught her just in time. This story came out shortly afterwards. And I was like this is why I don't want you talking to people let alone agreeing to meet with them online. To this day I can't figure out why she did this or how she got the password. Kids can do anything when you think there's no way. I'd never even heard of these apps b4 she used them. A police tech tracked the guy down. He was supposed to be 15 years old. Turns out he was 49 years old from another state.
Didn't want to face the consequences of being a hebephile. His "friend" probably convinced him that the only way to be sure is to k*ll the girl, and bury her. Just cold-blooded matter of fact thinking.
The only thing I can figure is social media has so deeply corrupted our lives and souls. It's just so heartbreaking and devastating 💔 RIP sweet little girl
It’s not every day you wake up and watch a video that takes place in our county. All of us from Surry County were shocked & so sad to hear what happened to this precious baby girl❤
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Her taking her blanket with her, broke my heart. It shows that she was just a child
MOST OLDER WOMEN ARE CHILDREN AS WELL.
I don't know why she had a phone with internet access. I'm giving my children flip phones until they are 18yo lmao
@@royaltylordprinceshamiyah1229 ??
Well at 13 she literally was
@@royaltylordprinceshamiyah1229 preach
Her Dad's plea "I'm not mad at you, I'm worried. You can come to me" absolutely heartbreaking 💔
It was all fake her dad didn't have nothing to do with her at all
@@bellaweekd5032 you're missing the whole point of the comment. 😅
@@bellaweekd5032 How do you know?
@@zacharyweisz-brownell5181 because she is an was my daughter
@@bellaweekd5032 I am so sorry for your loss. What a brave, kind, and charismatic young lady
How does one come to the conclusion that killing someone is less trouble then being like "I didn't know your age. We can't be together because it's illegal"
I know. It should have been a no brainer. He was 18 and made some very poor choices partly because of his youth. But he was also a psychopath who attacked a young girl with a shovel and a knife. He is where he belongs, and so is his deranged female friend.
Nicole is gone forever, but they won't be in jail forever. Something seems wrong with that. The primes of their lives will pass them by while incarcerated though, and they will have plenty of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
I was about to comment something similar. He thought he crossed a line by being romantically involved in some way with a 13 year old and "couldn't take it back", but you can't take back murder either and will receive worse consequences if caught.
Exactly, you’re with an underage girl and murder is how you solve it? I guess leaving her the hell alone would have been to hard.
This is always the kind of rationalizing we see from psychopaths and narcissists. Their reputation and having an easy life means more to them than the lives of other human beings. Many of them are also too stupid and self-absorbed to think about the consequences of murder.
@@miss-nomer yes and maybe justifying an excuse to be disturbingly violent
Her taking her minion blanket and police later finding it is heartbreaking.
Yeah that Minion blanket got me 💔
Yeah got me too, really gave the feel of how innocent this young girl really was
That small detail bothered me more than most of the other stuff. Really puts into perspective who this happened to. A naive, trusting, child.
Minions are our friends 💛
Yeah, soon as she left home and they said that you just want to cry, it's such a sweet, innocent, childhood thing 😥
She was a child. The sobering reality of hearing she took her "minions blanket" with her, really drove home the fact she was a child who was naive, and too trusting of the world. This story is so heartbreaking. R.I.P baby girl. 😞💔
Don't be naive. There is plenty of news about 13-14 year olds committing violent crimes. They now what they doing and they know right from wrong
@@azazello1784 What a stupid answer is that. Anyone can do crimes at any age. A 10 year old can do a crime, does that mean there are not a kid? Just because kids can be violent and dangerous doesn't mean they are equal to an adult. They will always be more vulnerable and naive and easier to be taken advantage of. Can you even compare a 13 year old girl with a 30 year old woman? Who is going to be more dangerous? Who is going to be an easier victim?At 13 I didn't even had my period and I still played with dolls. Come one now let's not equalize little kids with damn grown adults
How you go from "accidentally" dating an underage child to thinking that murder is your only way out. 🤔
It always creeps me out when people describe girls as "young women." A 13 year old is not a young woman... A woman is defined as an adult female, thus a young woman is a young adult female, not a child. Calling this girl a young woman just makes my skin crawl.
It’s 2022. Things are a lot different these days. Yes, a 13 year old is a child. Under 18 is a child, none should have access to internet just like cigarettes and what not.
@@cocksure8430 it’s not a joke. The only joke is the fact other people can’t seem to. Also it’s a TH-cam comment section you clown. Give over
Connotations of both are completely different and noninterchangeable.
She was a child
You're aware that 13 year old females get their periods right?
So if she's old enough to have a kid in your book she's STILL NOT a woman?
Well if it's not a biological event that draws the line to you then please share with us all what in your book 'happens' to which you then can call a girl 'a woman'?
That "apology" at the trial was ridiculous and laughable - I definitely believe that the dude is a psychopath 😮
Glad to see I wasn’t the only one who thought that was just some hot air being blown around. I wasn’t convinced and you aren’t either!
Yes, I got the impression it was not his and he was annoyed and inconvenienced having to read it.
Zero emotion from him. It was chilling.
I even started a new playlist called "ridiculous crime excuses/alibis" lmao 😈
The "dude" has autism. Not saying his apology isn't bs though, but rather attempting to provide more insight on his rather awkward speech.
Imagine how scared she must have been when she realized she made such a huge mistake 😔💔 RIP Nicole.
Omfg and she was hit with the shovel first?!?! 😭😭😭 how horrific! Poor baby 🥺 people are so evil man.. I can’t handle it.
Poor thing 😢
OH N-
The baby 🤧
I don't know how to say this and make it comprehensible to the younger generations: No matter how mature you feel; no matter how much you want to be treated as an adult; no matter how m7ch life-experience you think you've gained in your short time on Earth you DO NOT, nor will you ever know more than your parents. Being called a child is not a derogatory term, it's what you are, so embrace it, because you only live it for a very brief moment.
Amen.
This message is one that should be shouted from the rooftops. Frequently. All over the world.
As a GenX, I am forever grateful I was able to grow up without social media, smart phones, etc.
For what it's worth my friend, that was a very Poignant comment 💛
Seriously, it's true. I see comments from teenagers that are still under 18, acting like they know better. I remember feeling that way myself, teens just do. But, they just have no idea..the prefrontal cortex is still not fully developed till late 20s, and you can literally feel and know when that realization happens.
Being an adult ain't all it's cracked up to be. Doesn't guarantee you'll be treated with respect either.
The minions blanket was haunting….hammered home her true age. Poor child :(
Rest In Peace and prayers to all family members. ❤
Lol bet she considered herself a “young women” and was probably called a young women by everyone when in reality she is a scared little girl who should not have had access to the internet
How can you laugh about the situation. The narrator called her young woman she didn't consider herself a young woman she wouldn't have brought her minion blanket if she did!
@@francescadion5850 She considered herself a young women. Little girls dont go meeting strangers in the middle of the night women do.
@@reapthewhirlwind6915 she was a 13 year old. Kinda the same level ur spelling is at
From a family member of Nicole, thank you. "Haunting" is the right word...
What's scary about her story is I could've been her when I was a teen. I would sneak out of the house and meet strange guys. This was in the late 90's and early 00's. when we had myspace and party lines to socialize. I'm so fortunate I never met a psycho and I'm still alive. Now I think about all the dangerous situations I put myself in. Back in my younger years I didn't think nothing bad could happen to me. I just wish she had the chance to live to see my age and can look back and learn from her mistakes but it's too late.
Same here. I got in so many close call, deadly situations and I truly don't know how the hell I made it to 33.
Exactly my situation. I was addicted to
AOL chat rooms in the late 90’s early 2000’s. My mom and I were just talking about my teens and what she was worried about while raising me. Ugh it makes me sick to think what could of happened.
It’s a very eye opening experience for sure i was not much older than her and from the same area she was and I did the same but fortunately got very lucky, as a young girl I didn’t take it very seriously but now as a young woman I wish I would’ve taken it more seriously.
@@cecemccain2275I love how you say the children in this situation are sick and not the grown adult men that want to be with them 😂 are you a predator too?
i blame the parents for allowing her murder.
It's so sad to think about a poor young girl who just wanted to feel accepted and loved is lead to her own brutal murder simply for seeking out that love and acceptance. Breaks my heart 💔😔
So dumb and so fucked. How does this "solve their problem?" He could have just stopped meeting with her when he realized she was 13, or not fucked around on KIK like a pedophile in the first place. The only "problem" he had was the one he made for himself. Nicole's death was the answer to a question nobody asked except these two failed psychos. I suppose it went something like "how do I ruin my life and a child's as well for as little justification as possible." Truly a try-hard failure at everything in life. And Nicole's only mistake was being young, naive and insecure. Sickening.
@@DinoCism j
It’s important to find acceptance and love within for us. If there is none then you will go to the wrong people for it. 😔🙏🏻🕊
She's was too young to be on social media.
@@margaretgallacher1793 it'd be nice if that was a standard but unfortunately the cat's way out of the bag wrt kids on social media
To all parents: there are apps and settings that mirror your kids' phone activities to you. You can even tell your kids upfront that you need to do this and that nobody caring about them will seduce them to get around it.
Even adults fall for online predators in lonely moments.
thats ok the other people they talk to will just get them a burner phone to use in that case. And if you dont think thats happens then you probably dont know half the things kids are doing these days
ummm no….i’m old enough to know that not get into dangerous stuff on the internet im 16 turning 17 def know better but maybe parents should do that when ur 13 and younger
@@SpanishArmadaProd This is why you have communication with your children and help them learn to establish their own boundaries. So, they will know the reasons why someone would suggest using a burner phone and the way it lets someone get away with exploiting them. They can be aware of consequences and choose for themselves not to have a burner.
This. It’s important to monitor your children’s online activities, and it’s also about helping them establish their own boundaries.
That’s the TL;DR
They have to know what to say online or what to keep private, including displaying neediness or vulnerability, and how it attracts predators looking to exploit them. They should be reminded regularly and we need to have conversations about things like this - to impress upon them the reasons why it’s so dangerous.
We need to teach our children that it’s a big red flag for someone to push their boundaries or try to get around them by pressuring or manipulative tactics. Our children need to be able to recognize unspoken signs and signals that indicate someone’s intentions. They should know when their boundaries are being threatened, what to say to protect their boundaries when challenged, and what to keep private or express only to close friends and family.
Offering them another outlet than the internet or us as parents for expressing their feelings, and a way to give them privacy to express themselves is also important.
I know it must have been very exciting and flattering for her to have the attention of someone online - particularly a college athlete. She might have even believed she was being smart to meet him in a public place that first time. She probably thought she was avoiding the dangers of being catfished and that she could rely on her own judgment to protect herself. She didn’t know that the red flag was already there.
I don’t believe for one minute that he didn’t know she wasn’t 16/17 before they met. He would have immediately known how different their levels of maturity and experience were. They had nothing in common for any kind of relationship. He would know what a girl her age wanted: attention and a boyfriend. She had no experience to agree to a sexual relationship or even understand how that might affect her. He knew very well that he was in control, that it was a complete imbalance of power.
She probably didn’t know her very inexperience made her so vulnerable. Or that he was enjoying that, preying on it to get what he wanted.
You speak truth and give good advice but these people are blind for the most part and they think it's infringing on the rights of their 12-year-old if they interact whatsoever and this is why Society is crumbling because everyone wants to cry when tragedy happens but no one gives a s*** to prevent it
This is why I'm not at all against parents monitoring what their children do online. There's tons of sick people out there that will prey upon and take advantage of children. RIP Nicole
It’s so important. May seem invasive to some but it’s truly life saving for the child
@@Dizzy_Threads I was doing stuff online I had no business doing as a kid. Thankfully my parents asked me quite often what I was doing and made me show them every once in a while. It's so sad what some people do to kids.
I agree they do not have the right to privacy while they live with you. It’s our job to know what’s going on in their lives specially in these teen years when they’re extra sneaky
As if I give a fuck whether you are against something or not. Doesn't change my mind.
I never understand people who claim its an invasion of privacy um no...not with all these stories out there. It's negligence to not keep tabs on your child.
Kids should have flip phones where they can only text/call a number they have. No social media, just able to contact their parents, friends, and 911.
I concur.
I agree a million % !!!!
FINALLY starting to do just that
7:03 Seeing Nicole tearing up with the caption "Nobody cares about me" breaks my heart completely. 😢😢😢 To go through such loneliness and sadness especially for someone as young as Nicole is heartbreaking. My deepest condolences to her family. RIP Sweet Nicole. ♥️🙏♥️
“He slept that night *possibly haunted* by his actions?” Only a fool would think that someone can plan out a heinous act like this and then immediately feel genuine remorse. Fear? Sure. Anxiety? Yeah. Remorse. No.
This poor little girl 😢 all she wanted was to be seen, loved, by her peers. Horrible 🙏 prayers to her family
Is it just me, or is everyone else confused af when people commit murder to attempt covering up a smaller (smaller than murder) crime!!!!?? Good grief! The cost of someone's mistake is that of an innocent girl. 🙏
Absolutely, so wrong on so many levels. He could have just sent her home when meeting her first, seeing for real that she was just 13. He could have told her parents. But no, he chose the stupid irresponsible psycho route.
Since I was very young, my dad always told me, "You will need one lie to cover up another lie and it just keeps getting bigger."
Yes...how hard is it to tell her he's no longer interested and just cut ties? Why think up to murder her?
Mind = Blown!
@@TheNinnyfee he knew she was a young child, he didn't care until he feared being found out.
This guy, after realising people his age don't believe his made up stories, he went after a child. Someone who couldn't yet tell what is believable or not, and thus couldn't see how much of a monster he was. RIP Nicole, and I hope her family and loved ones have good lives.
Oh this broke my heart. How vulnerable we are as teens to be loved and excepted. I hope her family can find peace, no Mom should have to live with this.
*accepted
I just can't IMAGINE how scared she was at the very point she realized something was wrong... Makes me tear up..
I wish we didn't have to share the planet with such evil people
Amen
We don't have to share the planet with them. They make wonderful organ donors and the lives their organs save make up for, in a small way, the damage they have done to the children, families and all of us who actually give a sh*t.
4 more years
Same. You never know what anyone is capable of. And some people simply are evil.
Eisenhauer seems like a narcissist and a psychopath. His accomplice seems sorry she got caught and humiliated and ruined her family. I don't believe for a second they feel remorse for the horror they put a child through though.
I think they thought they were somehow above this poor child (they were not) by their academic and athletic success. And above the law. They were wrong on all counts.
This is the first channel that I’ve seen that sends condolences to the families. It’s a small gesture that shows you care about the cases you cover.
Kills me that instead of immediately going to the police after her creepy friend admitted to assaulting a child, whether he was lying or not, Rivers first instinct was to defend him, and not the little girl.
Women and girls go through enough in this world. We have to protect each other.
Everyone decent needs to watch out for each other. Plenty of women have victimized others too. Marching in lock-step isn't gonna help anyone.
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow Thanks for providing some sanity
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow Lol, not another "women can be violent too!" No shit they can, but lets not act like the majority of the content on channels like this aren't documented male perpetrators. Men commit 90% of violent crimes.
@@robotv8707 depends tbh. Impulse crimes? Absolutely. Theft, murder, rape, all of it almost entirely dominated by men, no doubt. But to pretend that's something special is asinine. Do you maintain that same attitude when we discuss race-crime statistics? I'm genuinely curious if you're honestly a neutral soul, or just someone piddling about something they THINK they feel passionately about?
@@stillcantbesilencedevennow Leave it to people like you to bring up race. When it doesn't change the fact that most men are dangerous even those without a record of crime. These men are never held accountable by other men either. Why is that? The original post was stating women need to protect each other because men surely aren't and you had to go all "not all men!" Lol.
I always feel like I’m watching a true crime tv show, when I watch your videos. You’ve got a voice for tv for sure. Spectacular video, as always!
Thank you !
I think the narrator is a hired voice actor.
@@Flotter-Flo he sounds extremely familiar but I can’t figure out where I’ve heard him.
@@morganjane exactly. And it really annoys me, I can't figure out where I know the voice from or I mean in case the voice isn't just similar. No matter what, an amazing voice for this.
@@morganjane He's probably just a guy with a really good voice who does this for various YT-channels.
The fact the poor love was left naked shows the killer had NO remorse. How can people be so callous 😭
Natalie is extra bizarre to me because she got involved in this as a willing participant, seemingly “for the fun of it.”She thought it was exciting and entertaining. I vaguely remember her interrogation videos and she was talking in the most causal tone of voice, and her text messages with David were giddy when talking about it.
Sick
I have 13 & 15 year old sons. I raise them alone and they're great kids. I'm a father first, a friend second. I always make sure to be involved in every aspect, all while trying to impart wisdom and good choices upon them. Teenagers are especially vulnerable, being between childhood and adulthood. Easily decieved and very trusting. Just a unimaginably terrifying outcome!
Thank you for being a good father 💙
And you see, sometimes we talk to them, show how it can be, give good example and guidance and even so they can try something risky. Sometimes they are just lucky but sometimes terrible things can happen. We just pray to God to protect our kids because even being good parents we can't do it all the time.
Your a good father.❤️
Thank y'all! I haven't even so much as been on a date for 5 years. I put every bit of my being into raising them & they're very appreciative of that! They kinda got lucky that I'm a really good cook, and have O.C.D as far as cleaning goes, so our house is spotless lol. Luckily my 15 year old is a housecat who's idea of a good time is hanging out at home with me. My 13 year old is extremely social and wants to go hangout with friends, go to the YMCA, football games, etc. I really try to find a good balance with him. He's got upset only a couple times, but a couple hours later he said he knows it's because I love him & it shows that I care. I'm so grateful to have my kids home and healthy! I feel so sorry for any parent that loses a child, especially a violent death!
@@MartineH1 Absolutely! My youngest seems determined to learn some things the hard way! I did as well! As you said, you hope and pray and do your best!
Such a tragic story. I'm glad I grew up in the era I did, with no social media and just hanging out at an arcade, bowling alley, and meeting guys in school instead of on social media. I hope her parents are comforted by their memories of Nicole and may her killers face hell every day in prison. RIP Nicole, too young to leave this life.
I totally agree with u 💯 on that! I have a 14 year old son and I’m honestly scared for what the world holds for him .. things are so much more complicated now! Especially with social media and being able to track anybody’s location and movement. These kids nowadays don’t know the severity of what comes with talking to strangers on social media. Like what u said days were so much easier back in the day..
Many women and young girls still got killed in those days too though..
@@mayav927 Yeah, likely just as much, but you would only hear thte local murders. Back then the world was much smaller in a sense and the scope was much tinier simply because of the lack of equipment for communicating and spreading information.
Present day information spreads within seconds, so it is very easy to get bogged down by all the depressing news and stuff. So nowadays it feels worse, but I don't think this generation is somehow more evil because of a cell phone and internet. In fact I would argue that many murders "back in the day" went cold because of the lack of DNA biometrics, which changed the WHOLE game, so it's not that murders have gotten more or worse. We are just more aware of the dangers around us.
(I am positive someone will somehow take offense to this.)
edit quick search shows that violence peaked in the 1980s and has drastically decreased. Murders were at their lowest roughly in the mid 2000s, but have slowly been increasing again (still lower than 1980s). Gee wizz maybe the world just isn't safe regardless what years you got to live in. Almost like we're the same species of humans lol
@@blueindigoqueen7077 That is where you come in. Impress upon him the dangers. Or ask him to watch these with you and discuss them.
I raised three. Luckily the internet was new and they were not too interested.
Keep an eye out and be open for him. You and he will do fine. 😉
That’s arguably even more dangerous than todays world. But okay.
I'm new to the channel. There's a lot of channels that cover crime stories but this is the only channel that starts off with sympathy's to the families, I think it's wonderful that your channel does it. 💙🙏💙
These predators are entering our children's room through the internet and taking them right out of their beds. Innocence lost by brutal means. My warmest thoughts go out to each family that is missing a child today.
@x5j94 What?
@x5j94 I think that is an absurd statement. And it is definitely not normal! In these other countries where the girls learn modesty, as you say, that modestly is brought on by the fact that even if something happens to them that is not their fault, they will be killed by a family member. That is not modesty, that is absolute terror.
So this is some kind of internet version of teleportation?
@x5j94 Honor killings happen in other countries. And the person I was replying to removed his comments, so you are not getting the entire conversation.
@x5j94 the bottom line is that a little girl was brutalized by a sick predator. And that's a tragedy. I'm not interested in your opinion of me or what you presume about me. And as far as I am concerned this conversation is over.
WHy do non-violent drugg offenders get more time than murderers??!? This justice system is effed.
It’s so true and so messed up
They don't. Unless they have been caught multiple times. Getting caught with a small amount of drugs will get you probation the first time around.
@@scottashe984 no. It won't .
@@scottashe984Does it fuck 😂 Dude in my school got sent down for 3 years for having weed on him, didn’t have any prior convictions either, all he had was weed. Didn’t have intent to sell it either and he still got 3 years. Girl I know assaulted her kid and got 6 months, the justice system is completely fucked up.
@@entherium54Exactly dude.
Man! At 13 in my household my parents wouldn’t even have allowed a note on our door saying “keep out” let alone social media unsupervised
This is why you HAVE to have those hard conversations with your children! My 7 year old already knows about sexual abuse/pedophiles because as horrible as it is for a child to know about that stuff it's straight up negligent in my mind not to keenly inform them of every possible red flag. He knows exactly what to do if anyone ever tries to do something to him or lure him somewhere and understands that no matter what they tell him, it's not his fault if an adult makes him feel uncomfortable or is being inappropriate towards him and I'm certain he would feel comfortable telling us so we could help him but only because hes been made aware of all the ways an adult might try to manipulate him. If someone had spoken to this girl candidly about what could happen to her if she ever trusted a total stranger than maybe she would have been more aware of the signs of a predator.
Oh here we go with the supercilious guardians using the story of a child's death as an opportunity to share with us why they're a superior parent. This may shock you but most parents teach their children about potential predators & the harm they bring, this is common sense. You're supposed to teach your kids these things. However, not many parents are willing to risk damaging their child's mind by telling them what sexual abuse is. Telling them the places they shouldn't be touched & that strangers can take them away & hurt them gets the point across. Young minds are not ready for that info & it could generate confusion, shock, fear, panic, disgust, curiosity, fascination, guilt, misunderstanding, & lead to very bad mental health.
You wouldn't know whether or not her parents "had spoken" to her. If you think a teen with image issues is just going to stop talking to boys online just because she's told of what could happen then you might find yourself in this situation, God forbid. To think that these kids are completely clueless about how dangerous it is to meet people online is foolish. Grown people know & still do it. She certainly knew what she was doing was wrong. You can preach to them everyday but if parents don't monitor & limit their activity, this happens.
@@curiouser-and-curiouser exactly. This little girl didn’t need a phone especially when she kept doing what she wasn’t supposed to do. Take it away !
@curiouser-and-curiouser Oh what do you know? Take your long rambling comment and quit acting like you’re so well versed in children’s mental health. Nothing wrong with giving your child the tools they need to stay safe. Blah, blah, blah. I’m assuming you don’t have kids or a degree in child psychology. So shhsh with your holier than thou rhetoric. 👌🏼
Perhaps not in great detail, but I do think children need that conversation that noone is allowed to touch the swimsuit areas. What do others think?
@@Stumpybear7640 agreed. You can still
Teach them without going into all the gory details. But kids should know…
When I was a teenager, I had little/no supervision. A man called me - I didn’t know who it was - asking me to model for him for $$$. I needed $ so I said, “Sure!” I never heard back from him. I cringe now at my young innocent self making bad decisions. Thankfully, I made it out of that time period alive! RIP, Natalie and the thousands of young people who didn’t survive. 😢
Maybe it was just a talent scout looking for future models
I was about to write exactly same words as KJ. ☹️
@@frankbasile3662 No man should be calling a teenager, directly, about a modeling job.
I did the same, but I left with this man so he can take pictures of me on the beach.😱
This was before cell phones. Thank god he didnt kill me & dropped me off. I lived in a big apartment complex so he didnt know where I lived.
I had the "modelling job" trick attempts a few times too as a teen. None calling me, they would be creepy guys on the street or public transport. Thankfully I never met with any. Aside from those tricks, it's really disturbing the amount of dodgy men all teenage girls used to experience and still do. Everyone I know seems to have multiple stories, so just how many are out there at any given time?! 😬
Poor young girl. My deepest sympathy to her friends and family.
This is so unbelievably tragic.
As a parent who has just lost my son at 19 It hurts to know what this family is going through. It’s a life sentence😢
We do our best to protect our children but as our technology & social media expands, so do the sick criminal minds
🙏🏻💔RIP sweet soul prayers to family♥️
I am sorry for your loss ❤️❤️
@@laphalène thank you 🙏🏻💞
May God confort you.
@@MartineH1 🙏🏻♥️
So sorry that you lost your son , may the Lord give you the strength and comfort to see you through your bereavement.
I absolutely love your voice. It’s perfect for these videos.
There was absolutely no "reason" to kill this girl. She hadn't threatened to turn him in, wasn't pregnant, nothing. These 2 were just monsters looking for an excuse to act out their sick thoughts. 😡
when her lawyer made a defense i also thought most is like accessory too and thought she was gon get off easy but he gave her 2x the recommended sentence good judge
Yes, that surprised me too.
Ugh this makes me so sad. She probably felt so special and mature and cool to have this older guy her for taking a midnight drive. Probably not knowing what was at the end of that road for her.
It is obvious its dangerous to meet people online.. but until you have been so alone that it feels like your only chance at make friends, you wont get it. We need to give our kids the attention they need as growing minds and personalities. I met people online, and was lucky to be safe. I don’t recommend it, but we should look into why our kids feel like they need to do this! Not guilt them and make them feel bad.
Teens only want others attention though. Like even if the parents were giving her a lot of attention she would have still been wanting validation from her peers
Oh my gosh…….that poor sweet young girl I’m devastated. How can young college students turn into psycho murderers , so very disturbing .
This reminds me A HECK of a lot of Slyler Neese. Her friends lured her out late at night . She left through her window. They killed her together and left her in the cold.
I also exposed myself to these predators when I was her age. I’m so glad that I was scared to ever meet up with any of them.
Be proud of yourself.
In my mind, whether they are psychopaths/sociopaths or people “with a problem” that went too far is a distinction without a difference. Neither of them should take a breath as free people ever again.
Nicole will be gone forever, but these two monsters will not be in jail forever. Something doesn't quite seem right about that. But the primes of their lives will pass them by during their periods of incarceration, and they will have a lot of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
I say this ALL THE TIME! why do people judge outward appearance!? You gotta have DISCERNMENT! You can have a rich kid that's a freaking psycho, and a homeless person a SAINT! Wake up folks! Trust your gut! RIP sweet soul 💕
So true! Word!
Amen!!!!!!!! Stay WOKE!!! 💕💜
She didn't feel loved by anybody? Truly so sad.
How sickening it must be to hear the murderer say how.sorry they are in court!
What in the actual F is wrong with people, I mean seriously wtf??? I just don’t get how they came to the conclusion that this was a good idea. No one can convince me that these two people were seemingly normal up to this point in their lives, how do you go from college and working on becoming adults to murdering a child. When I heard about her taking the minions blanket from her house it broke my heart, this was an innocent child……….. my thoughts and prayers to all affected…
No "innocent child" knowingly hooks up with a 18+ guy. She concealed that she was only 13 years old until they met! Obviously all the blame for the murder is on those 2 people that were charged. But what the hell was the girl doing?
She made a immature mistake and kids do that everyday but most kids are allowed to learn from those mistakes but In this case that right was taken from her by these monsters.
That’s what every teenager who watches TH-cam should take away from this……
They might be the ones who are unlucky enough to not learn from their mistakes. They aren’t bullet proof and it can happen to them
@@BornIn1500 it's a confidence thing, but there is more than that at play. This one was hard to listen to because I was this girl when I was about her age, and unless you are this character in the story, it's very hard to understand the mindset. Her home life didn't sound all that bad, no outward abuse, but the kids at school probably weren't gathering around her in groups to get her autograph. You feel isolated and lonely when everyone else is getting lots of friends, talking boyfriends, doing cool things on the weekends, and you...aren't. You aren't all the confident because of how you look or how you act, and all of a sudden here is someone that doesn't judge you, that wants to talk to you about your day, that makes you feel like you are the best part of their day. The messages might not even be sexual, they might be friendly, and that friendliness keeps coming. Soon you feel prettier, happier because someone accepts you, likes you, and life is starting to feel pretty good. Then they start professing love, and you might never have seen this person you're talking to, or maybe you have, and you start falling head over heels. Nothing else matters, because this person makes you feel all the things you want to feel. Then they want to meet, and your heart is going a mile a minute and you can't wait and nothing is going to get in your way of meeting this amazing person that you are sure will take care of you, cherish you, love you and give you all those things you ever wanted. You're not thinking rationally, you just want to meet this person. That explains all of the things she took with her, down to the blanket.
I met a 45 year old man on AOL chatrooms (you know, the A/S/L days) back in the day. He lived 2.5 from me, made his age no secret. I told him I was 16, thinking I was cool. I was 14. I don't remember if I ever told him the truth. Our 'relationship' was over a year before my parents found out, and they never would have found out if I hadn't given him the landline number, and he called right in front of my mom. NEVER sexual in any conversation, and no pictures. Ever. We had no idea what each other looked like. That was the day my dad called the FBI. My own story never got further than that (I'm typing this in my mid-30s and its surprising how much I remember of this event). Only thing this guy ever lied to me about was apparently his age, and he was 49. Yes, he was still a pedo, and no, just like I told the cops when they told me his age, I still didn't care how old he was. Because the conversing with him was giving me so much more than any interactions with my parents, who couldn't be bothered with me. But he was still a pedophile, and he knew what he was doing, and apparently I wasn't the first. Now that I'm older, I'm so glad my parents stepped in.
Until I heard this girl's story, I thought I was the only one. This guy was a pedophile, any way you slice it. He was in the wrong in that as soon as he saw or had any incling at ALL that she was under 18, he should have stepped on the gas and never looked back. Never met her. But he didn't. He wanted to play the "oh, but my reputation!" card, but he still did what he did, and then when he didn't want it to get out...that poor girl had everything ripped away from her without hesitation, and that poor family was left suffering the whiplash from it all. 😢
@@RaijuFiction you say you weren’t the first and then immediately after say “I thought I was the only one!” Make ur damn mind up! Lmao!
Could you imagine sitting in on the trial of you daughters murder and the kid not even trying to sound sincere while giving the fake apology his attorney wrote him..
That was really a sad story. Thank you for sharing it with us!
I so much appreciate you sending thoughts to the family of this little lady at the beginning of the video. ♥ Not all channels take the time to do that so the ones that do really stand out. This story was a Heartbreaker. Bless her Lil heart, she was a beautiful little girl.
I'm literally shaking writing this comment, first of all R.I.P little angel and second of all,I pray the family heals from this tragic event,last they should take these evil monsters and anyone like them and it should be a law to inflict the same horrific pain they did to their victims again my prayers and heart goes out to her family 🙏🏿😔🕊️
I feel really lucky to still be here I did so much stupid shit as a child preteen and teen and still I am alive and breathing … I feel horrible that this happened to her :(
I’m shocked that I’ve never heard of this case. Poor Nicole! She was so very young and vulnerable. She just wanted the same thing we all do, to be understood, cared for and validated. It breaks my heart bc I was just like her at that age. I just, luckily for me, was never found by a predator like she was. Probably because I was born in the early eighties, so social media and cellphones weren’t mainstream yet. Just so sad. Rest in peace and love, sweet Nicole.
This is why my family made me watch Unsolved Mysteries and Americas Most Wanted. Our children need to know about this dark world but they should keep some of that innocence. Maybe if she had "the talk" about the internet and who is behind the screen, she would have been more cautious. RIP little angel.
So you had a talk with your parents and they revealed "Who is behind the screen" huh? You may need Jesus lol, that's straight witchcraft.
@@ManyLegions88 ???
@@ManyLegions88 don't touch any children
This was horrific and my heart breaks for this child and her family. However I appreciate your covering of this story because I feel the need to share it with my own daughter to show her that horrible things do happen right here in VA.
My daughter was using her school laptop to talk online while at school!! Went on for who knows how long but we didn't find out until she slipped up. She thought she sent the online girl a message but sent it to me instead. Then we opened up a can of worms we had no idea about. All this girl did was prey on our daughters low self-esteem and struggles with body dysmorphia she knew exactly what to say and that was it. I have a niece who fell victim to online predator aswell. Zero clue she was talking to an adult for 3 years!!! These kids are smart they know how to hide a lot and when a predator gets in to their lives they teach them how to hide stuff more efficiently from everyone online is the predators play ground 😥
It's hard to understand how someone's brain can get so twisted. And for him to find a girl with the same twisted way. People like this deserve to suffer, but they won't.
Pornaddiction
I hear what you're saying.
But prison isn't a cakewalk.
I've heard it described a lot like serving in the military 24/7, except without the pay. Or like slavery. Every aspect of your life is controlled on some level. It's a lot of "hurry up and wait".
Not "Hell on Earth" but not somewhere you want to be, ever.
And they will be in prison the VAST MAJORITY of their lives (without parole.)
She will get out when she's 60, and no sooner. He will get out when he's 70, and no sooner. *IF* they survive, they'll only have a few short years of freedom.
Ideally these people will learn the suffering they've caused and suffer in turn from that guilt.
If not guilt for the lives of the family of the victim they murdered, guilt for their own lives which they've ruined. Guilt for their own families.
And know that's where they actually should be. And know they can never really make it right.
Non-existence would be preferable to me than living like that.
I appreciate the offer of condolences to the family before you told the story
god I remember being her age and doing the exact same things one kik and omegle- only thing different was that i knew never to disclose any personal information. its terrifying to think about what she went through and to imagine that if i wasnt as internet educated as i was at the time the possibility of it happening to me could've been way higher. even then i did some STUPID things when i was 13-15 that i look back and think "wow how the hell am i still here". i feel so sorry for this girl and i dont understand how omegle and kik are still a thing sometimes
You can see the pain in her father's eyes when he is asking her to come home. That made me cry. I feel terrible for her family. RIP Nicole. Prayers for her loved ones.
So sorry Little Girl, never a kid and nor a teenage deserve this. Can't imagine the parent emotions.
What a great press conference. Very detailed and professional.
Lives lost at the holiday's is very very hard, heartbreaking and sad. 💔
I am so lucky that nothing like this happened to me when I was a kid. I was way too trusting and since MySpace and social media was JUST becoming popular when I was in my early teens, kids in my age group were like the guinea pigs of the internet. I met so many creeps and I'm 110% sure I came into contact with honest to God predators when I was a kid online. Keep your kids safe folks! This is no joke.
May she rest in peace. Poor girl...heart breaking and so young.
All these precious babies that are being abused, tortured and or murdered makes my heart heavy 😥 RIP darling girl ❤️
This happened in my hometown. Nicole went to church with my daughter and nieces. This was absolutely heartbreaking. My oldest niece took it really hard since they also went to school together 💔. Rest in Peace Coley.
All I've caught so far for the place this happened in is Western Verginia. I'm only a short way into the video so far & it might be mentioned later, but if not, can I please ask what town this took place in?
I'm very sorry to hear of this terrible crime and that it happened where you are. If it's a somewhat small town it's already deep in the psyche of everyone there. When people hear of crimes like this it's easy to overlook everyone else who this has impacted. Of course family and friends immediately come to mind but often not those who have always been around throughout the victims life, in the peripheral. I hope the healing is well underway for everyone there, although all parents of these types crimes against their children aren't afforded that gift that with the passage of time lets them heal easier as their loss & pain runs too deep for any meaningful healing to really take place, until many years later, if at all.
Sorry, I'm just rambling now. Thank you for your time if you respond. I appreciate it.
Take care my friend 💛
She went to church? Wth?
@Julia Blacksburg is in Southwest VA, we're about 45mins from TN and North Carolina. It's a smallish town, biggest thing about Blacksburg is Virginia Tech and the Hokies.
@Cheryl Ween Yes. Our church ran a bus that would pick kids up from all over the county to make sure that anyone who wanted to attend, could.
@@_S.D._ it seems odd to me that the 13 year old girl went to church yet snuck out of her house late at night to be with a boy. What did she learn at church?
He could've just ghosted Nicole and everything would've been fine. But instead.....
I was so confused by this story. Beyond Evil is normally amazing but this story was all over the place
I mean something had happened between them for this guy to think he needed to murder a kid plus he grown ass adult that was on an app that had a lot of kids and teens looking for "relationships" not a good look on a college-age guy
@@acm3047 either way, he is where he belongs now. Nicole will be gone forever, but these two monsters will not be in jail forever. Something doesn't quite seem right about that. But the primes of their lives will pass them by during their periods of incarceration, and they will have a lot of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
From what I learned of this story prior to thos video, I believe Nicole was pregnant, or claimed or believed herself to be pregnant. This terrified the murderer as he feared jail time and ruination of his college sports career.
@@nicholepiper3542 that’s must’ve been it
If she needs a security blanket to go on a date, she's too young man.
Christ this comment sent shivers down my spine, really made it sink in how young this girl actually was.
I think most people don't really interact with 12 or 13 year olds, so in their mind, they're just like, "yeah thats really young, so its fucked up," but when you put it this way -- it makes it more real, and reminds you of a time when you were that age.
Just heard about this case yesterday in my elective class. It hurts my heart to hear this case, may she R.I.P❤
This is some of the saddest stuff I’ve heard in a LONG time 😢
This brought up all sorts of horrid memories for me. I was the victim of a groomer on kik when I was 11-13. He got me to do a lot of things, I'm sure there's CP of me somewhere in the depraved corners of the internet but I never gave him what state I was from or what my real name was, he said that he wanted to come help me run away and we could be happy together, he claimed to be 27. I told him my mom wouldn't let me run away and that he couldn't know my name or we'd both get in trouble. I don't doubt that had it not been drilled into my head from the moment I got my kindle that I was never to tell people who didn't know me personally my name or state, I could've ended up like Nicole.
I'm sorry you had to experience this.
Me too, darling, but I was desperate enough to run away to him.
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I love this channel this is the 3rd story that I've heard with way more details and information than the other channels
My deepest, most heartfelt sympathy to her family and friends. I can't even fathom what kind of pain parents go through when their child is taken in such a violent way. I truly hope her life on the other side is full of amazing adventures. Virtual Hugs to the family, from Canada.
Thank you so much it really means alot.🐼
@@bellaweekd5032 You're most welcome.
This channel just hits different than these other true crime channels.
Excellent narration, story line, video, audio. Thank you.
You have the best narrative voice! Love it
The way she was slaughtered is so dispicable. So intense brutal. I feel so sorry for her and her loved ones. This must be inbearable to live with. Poor little girl who thought that she was running away with the love of her life. She was just a kid. So sorry for her.
I am a parent to four daughters and one son, and the dad’s reaction had me so sad that I felt sick. My heart truly breaks for this family! I just hope that this CHILD didn’t have to suffer for too long during this unspeakable act! It sadly won’t bring her back, but I’m certainly glad that those two monsters were swiftly brought to justice!
Another heartbreaking moment is when her dad says that if she doesn't take her medications she (he lowers his voice) is gonna die... Even the thought of it was scary for him and reality must have ruined his life....
My sister-in-law worked in the Montgomery County DA's office when this case happened. This was one of thise cases that REALLY hit her hard. That ends up being extremely hard on the entire family because they can't discuss the cases with anybody but you can SEE it weighing extremely hard on her & it just got worse everyday.
If you know anyone that works on processing & prosecuting these cases make sure you periodically check on them. Even if they tell you they're good give them a certificate for a spa day, offer to babysit so they can have a date night or anything you know they would really appreciate as a way to decompress.
Holding in what they can't tell you is just as hard as actually seeing it for the 1st time & working it daily.
That's why I think it's easier on my Aunt & Cousin. They own a mother daughter Cadaver & Search Dog Kennel. When they work a case they always work it together. Being able to discuss it with eachother is a HUGE mental help for both of them.
Cops def discuss work with family lol.
That’s absolutely sickening I don’t know how anyone can bring themselves to do anything that horrible
As a mother with kids who are quickly approaching this point in adolescence. I so, so nervous about what (or who) they might encounter online. While I always strive to be a parent who respects my kids privacy in a way mine did not, I know I'll be walking a fine line in a few years. I hope Nicole's parents find peace and her story serves as a warning to other kids as well as parents who might be too lax with their online monitoring.
Supervise their internet/phone use and tell them about grooming. You can do that while still respecting their privacy
I had parental controls on Nicole's (Coley) she found away around those she did stuff on her friends phone or computer so you know thought I did everything right as parent. Boy I was so wrong. Don't ever think it can't happen to you. Because it can. Best way is to talk to your preteens am give them examples I have went an talk to a group of teens an told them Nicole's story. I hope it helps. I blame myself everyday it's nothing but a nightmare I pray for other families that have preteens I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy 💔
You need to worry more about your god damn self.
I just don’t understand how he got anything short of a life sentence
The way things are going, pretty soon it will be just 10 years for murder. Welcome to the new punishment for terrible acts. I long for the ole "eye for an eye" justice.
Nicole will be gone forever, but these two monsters will not be in jail forever. Something doesn't quite seem right about that. But the primes of their lives will pass them by during their periods of incarceration, and they will have a lot of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
What is SO scary is that I used to live in apartments close by here in the 90s. I've also snuck out at night, crawling through my bedroom window. It's insane how reckless kids can be! I never thought anything like this would happen to me. This happens to other kids. Have lots and lots of conversations with your kids about the dangers that lurk out there! Even in a small town like Blacksburg.
RIP Nicole 🙏❤️ Condolence’s to Parent’s. It would be so hard as a parent to police the internet for safety especially when creeps get on kids channels
The fact that these people will one day be released is sickening and pathetic
Right??? He stabbed her all over… in her face, her throat… I can’t believe they didn’t get life in prison.
@@302foundd I can't believe they got anything lighter than the death penalty
I will never understand how people get out ' ever' after engaging in cold-blooded murder.
Evil kids never cease to amaze me. I hope they never get out of prison. Never!
Nicole will be gone forever, but these two monsters will not be in jail forever. Something doesn't quite seem right about that. But the primes of their lives will pass them by during their periods of incarceration, and they will have a lot of time to contemplate how things could have been different.
I did so many dangerous things as a kid because I felt so grown up. It makes my heart hurt with fear for all of the kids in the world who are like I was. Some of them never get to grow up and learn better.
I remember this case very well. My daughter was 15 when this happened and went thru the I know it all phase. She secretly got on computer and agreed to meet some creep. Thankfully, I caught her just in time. This story came out shortly afterwards. And I was like this is why I don't want you talking to people let alone agreeing to meet with them online. To this day I can't figure out why she did this or how she got the password. Kids can do anything when you think there's no way. I'd never even heard of these apps b4 she used them. A police tech tracked the guy down. He was supposed to be 15 years old. Turns out he was 49 years old from another state.
Who knew 15 year old girls like playing with their unmentionables?
What a truly odd murder, I'm perplexed by their reasoning.
exactly, at what point do you actually turn to your friend and suggest killing the girl? Besides horrific how stupid can you get.
Didn't want to face the consequences of being a hebephile. His "friend" probably convinced him that the only way to be sure is to k*ll the girl, and bury her. Just cold-blooded matter of fact thinking.
Always strange how people with so called book smarts and higher learning make the dumbest social decisions
@@dmreddragon6 That sounds about the size of it, thank god they were caught on the first time,
The only thing I can figure is social media has so deeply corrupted our lives and souls.
It's just so heartbreaking and devastating 💔
RIP sweet little girl
This is the most heartbreaking story I have ever heard 😢
😔😔😔😪😪😪
You are either very young, or very sheltered.
Stick around kid… The world is so much worse than this
Not really..
@@spiralrose sadly it's not only the worst case but it's going to get a lot worse too
@@Starae336 How you say not really 😂 you know if he’s telling the truth?
Ugh-
I've become pretty numb to true crime stories, but this one makes me cry.
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It’s not every day you wake up and watch a video that takes place in our county. All of us from Surry County were shocked & so sad to hear what happened to this precious baby girl❤