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- The Cross RC EMO AT4 recently impressed by finishing all 6 test problems - no easy task! Previously, the Traxxas TRX4 Bronco could only manage 4 of 6. Today, the Bronco gets a fair shot with original Traxxas Canyon Trail tires and weighted beadlock wheels, making this a more fair fight with the EMO AT4. We also see both these premium 4X4 RC rock crawlers take a shot at the new test course.
One of these rigs will win on the course in time and points. But it should be close. Can the Traxxas Bronco claw back some dignity on the 6-problem test course? Which of these rigs is worth buying? Is their performance close and is durability an issue? Find out in our latest test, the Cross RC EMO AT4 vs Traxxas TRX-4 Bronco! Let's do it!
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Find a few more thoughts on this topic in our article, 'EMO AT4 vs TRX4 Bronco': rc-tnt.com/rc-crawler-reviews...
Is RC rock crawling fun? rc-tnt.com/rc-crawler-reviews...
If you're interested in crawlers and thinking about what to get, this article may be helpful: rc-tnt.com/rc-crawler-reviews...
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Vehicles featured in this video:
Cross RC EMO AT4
Manufacturer site: www.crossrc.us/shop/at4-emo-4...
Available as RTR or in kit form.
Traxxas TRX-4 Bronco
Manufacturer site: traxxas.com/products/landing/...
Available as RTR only.
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Test course performance numbers:
EMO AT4: 7 reverse, 0 gates, bonus gate, 3.13 (score: -23).
TRX4: 9 reverse, 1 gate, bonus gate, 3:17 (score: -16).
(The EMO won by just 7 points, but it was close enough that with multiple attempts with both rigs I think the EMO would only edge ahead very slightly in performance overall - close enough that it wouldn't be significant.)
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Chapters:
0:00 EMO AT4 vs TRX4
0:10 A Note on Comparisons
1:02 Bronco on Canyon Trail
1:27 EMO AT4 & TRX4 Similaraties
1:46 EMO AT4 on Test Course
5:18 TRX4 Bronco on Test Course
9:25 Both Rigs vs 6 Problems
15:38 EMO AT4 vs TRX4 Debrief
16:36 Which One To Buy?
17:27 Both Rigs Are Awesome
17:42 Links To Videos
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Another great video as always. I really like the comparison videos sure it's not perfect but it does give us a good ideal about how the trucks perform. Having the same driver on the same course helps because you do a good job with it. Having just recently gotten back into the hobby the mental health aspect has been a huge factor, with what I've been through the last few years it would have broke most people but I'm still going strong and your channel has helped alot so thanks for that. I really like the cross rc but I believe I would go with the Traxxas just because of the aftermarket support. Time will tell on how well the aftermarket support will open up for the Cross Rc...
Cross RC support has been excellent from the resellers I've used over the past few years I've had cross rc models, but as far as after market goes, it's a bit thin on the ground. This model deserves plenty of options, but it's also a very complete package from the outset, so that helps.
Thanks for sharing, I'm glad to have been part of hanging in there. Keep hanging in there, rc brother.
Thumbs up just on the intro, humble and honest
Thanks Noel! The channel has grown quite a bit since that old video but the sentiment remains: you guys are what makes the youtube experience just so special for me as a new creator. I love the interactions and discussions we've had here over nearly two years now. It's just fun. Cheers for the comment!
Excellent comparison. Your right ,would be a tough pick. Both did great!
There are brass upgrades for the EMO platform, plus a straight axle conversion kit and even a rear swaybar kit.
Ooh interesting! I haven't had an eye on cross rc for a few months. Sounds like it's time to take another look. Thanks for the info :)
Great, as always.
The TRX4 Sport vs. TRX4 Bronco would be interesting.
Thanks. I've considered it, but with my two TRX-4s being so modified, I don't know how useful that video would be against the stock Sport kit (with custom electronics, as all kits will be).
The only thing I've thought to do there would be to get the Sport as upgraded as possible and then see how they go against each other.
I kinda would want to see this video with stock RTR Sport and stock RTR Defender or Bronco, but that is unlikely to happen at this stage!
Another Great head to head... Oh, You are so amazing & we greatly appreciate You & Channel! Keeping fun to the hobby through some Great information & always awesome entertaining Content! Your amazing personality brings a light of its own! 🤟 🤙 🤜🤛 👍...
You're very kind. Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@@RCTNT Always!
Great review, as you always spoil us with throrough details on the performance. As a personal recommendation, I wonder if we could benefit from a bit more comments (yes, ofc they are already there, but a bit more in detail) beyond their performance, such as the way they feel when driving.
Obviously, a different set of wheels+tire combo, a steering servo or electronics will give completely different feel from one rig to the other, but maybe in the way they manage their weight, how tippy, how stable, how well the suspension copes, etc. I am left wondering a bit on these characteristics when going through your videos. Just friendly a personal note to take your videos to the next level. Thanks again for your top effort, Craig!!👌🏻
PS, I think you missed my last comment in the Enduro24 vid 🙂
Thank you, I'll think on that. I have trouble focusing on details for more than 5 seconds - none of my videos are scripted and you're getting the first take with a bunch of cuts 90% of the time. It's the only way I can do these, I think, at least in this season of life.
I will definitely think about this and try to include more on the feel of them; the driving experience. Thanks, that's really helpful feedback.
Oh! Ok thanks, I will go look :)
@@RCTNT no biggie mate. So many things happening at the same time in your vids, I'm surprised you don't have a meltdown driving and at the same time being so coherent on your comments about what's going on, haha. 😬👌🏻
@@YoShImUrA53 I did say a lot of cuts. Meltdowns are off-camera, you can't prove anything.
Traxxas Bronco all the way. First 1/10 crawler I picked up and it got me hooked on rc crawlers.
The traxxas is definitely the better looking one in my opinion
They're good machines, to be sure.
Nice comparison 🍿📺👍
I am looking for a trail truck that can handle rocks crawling as well. I am looking at the Cross RC AT4 or The vanquish Phenix v4-10. are testing these 2 cars which would be a better fit for me? I would most likely be using it in both settings. I don't want to add a lot of aftermarket or upgrade just straight out of the box.
They're both special vehicles. In my experience you'll get far more versatility and performance from the Emo AT4, especially in stock form. Mind you, they're both potentially kit builds too, which I'd recommend over RTR as you'll get to choose your favourite electronics from the start. That's what I did with the phoenix postal and the AT4 and I have no regrets there.
But regardless of kit or RTR, the AT4 will out-crawl the vs4-10 in most situations. It's also arguably more fun on the trails, with unlockable diffs and 2-soeed. The vs4-10 does have DIG and overdrive options, which you'd think would put it ahead on rocks, but it can't match the AT4 for breakover and raw capability on tricky technical lines. The one exception to that would be steep side hills, where I suspect the Vanquish might do a bit better - but only if you change the tires. Again, stock vs stock, after all my testing, I'm confident the AT4 would win handily most of the time.
@@RCTNT Thank you so much! I really appreciate your input on this and I will lean toward the At4 then. I really enjoy your videos keep up the good work!
Very good video! How has your EMO AT4 hold up since this video now $339? I'm trying to decide between it and the TRX-4 Blazer now $519. I don't think the battery come with either rig in RTR. Your opinion would be helpful.
Still good, no breakages yet. I love it.
If that's the price difference - and remembering the Cross is a kit so you can put decent, cheap electronics in like I did, you're laughing.
TRX4 for after market support. Cross for value and uniqueness.
If budget is the prime factor in your choice, get the Cross. Otherwise, go with personal preference.
Me, if I could only have one between them, it'd be the EMO AT4. But there's no wrong answer to this one, they're both high quality.
great video!
Another fantastic and informative video Craig! As someone already mentioned…you spoil us with great content. I was surprised the Bronco performed so well, given it’s gvm….awesome platform. I would like to see a head 2 head with Cross/TRX4 Sport….so I can beat my hairless chest and howl haha.
A little off topic - I’m in the process of modding my Sport and need advice on a decent servo. Also any bump steer issues with the extra servo torque, given it still has plastic pan hard mount?
As always thanks 👌👌
Thanks, Mark!
The Bronco's performance was a surprise given just how heavy it is! The TRX4 is such a legendary platform!
A few of you have asked for Bronco vs Sport, so I can do that, no problem. I have some ideas for the video already actually.
Servos:
You said "decent" and my pick of the bunch, with an open budget, is the Holmes 12v v3 brushless waterproof unit. It's cheaper than some high end gear and it's very, very good.
I also like the 46kg jx Servo waterproof brushless unit. It's cheaper than the Holmes and still very good, though you'll want a BEC to feed it the 8.4v it is designed for.
A step cheaper again is the jx servo HV coreless 46kg waterproof one (cls-hv7346mg). I am putting this unit into my VS4-10 build, so we'll see how that goes.
This covers most of the ones I like, at the beefier and of things. The Holmes ones are hard to beat.
@@RCTNT Thanks for the reply re: Servos! I ordered the JX CLS 12volt 46kg Coreless. Thanks to you, I also have my eye on the Holmes 12v v3…..will go into the Sendero HD. I find with my limited experience in RC, that steering may be the ‘dark arts’ of the hobby :) All the best Craig 🤟🤟
@@RCTNT Hey there Graig - I finally got the JX HV coreless for my SCX10.2 light weight rig - wow!! Direct power for me now is the way forward!! No more bec or overheating servo (from repeated stalls I assume?) it’s actually great value for $89 delivered. Next stop …..Johnny Holmes’ house of power! Just ordered Hot racing axle link mounts for TRX4 as well as front alloy shock hoops (with panhard) from Samix. This will eliminate all steering flex in preparation for SVH500 or SVH800 lovin ❤️❤️ Thanks for your advice on the JX servo 👌👌
@@shoky11TV well that's exciting and satisfying to read, well done! Glad you're enjoying it :D
Is the AT4 still holding up well? Has your opinion stayed the same since making this video?
Yes indeed it has, and I've been using it. Brilliant machine. See more of it here: th-cam.com/video/4MOmYa6E8Lc/w-d-xo.html
If I may ask - how wide are the axles (tracks) if these two? I am asking as I have seen Killerbody LC70 on the TRX4 and as one would expect the axles are a bit too wide and I am wondering whether the AT4 chassis could fit a bit better (visually).
Trx4 is 15mm, inside to inside its tire. EMO AT4 is 17mm.
@@RCTNT thank you, but what I meant was the width of the axles hex-to-hex. I apologize for not expressing myself more clearly.
Ah I see, sorry. Trx4 is slightly more narrow than the AT4, unfortunately.
@@RCTNT thank you very much! I guess the better way towards a little more scale would be starting with the XT4 and putting on smaller wheels/tires (the body would be 'scale enough' for me). And I recall reading on your web page, that you have one in the pipeline :)
Right! Yes, there's an XT4 that needs building. Another axle you could consider is the Boom Racing PHAT axles, they're pretty epic. I've covered them on the channel quite a bit and I run them under several RC4WD rigs here too, they're that good. Here's the (affiliate) link for ATees: asiate.es/aff?l=151552&i=76070
I've bought several sets and if you have the budget, they're one of the toughest and most broadly configurable axles on the aftermarket for 1/10 crawlers.
I’m sure I missed it, but is the EMO the RTR or the kit version? Curious because I know the kid version comes with heavy weighted wheels and some other upgrades
G'day Eric, you'll be wanting this video for more details on the EMO AT4: th-cam.com/video/moDtgCcDJtc/w-d-xo.html
Yep, it's the kit with the nicer wheels and it is a lovely truck indeed! JT4 also, though I don't have that one. Cross RC really nailed it with these rigs. Cheers :)
@@RCTNT thanks for the quick reply!
Your channel and Crawler Canyon, while in their infancy have been the two I’ve gone to for reliable and honest content since I’ve gotten into the hobby.
Based on your review, I bought a sendero hd and gatekeeper.
Thanks for the honest work and attention to detail.
I’m still digesting your tire comparisons as I look for my next investment
@@k24civic1608 that's super encouraging, thanks Eric! I'll have to look into Crawler Canyon (believe it or not I don't watch a lot of youtube!!). I started at the end of May 2021 so am starting to think about what my 1 year video will entail. More stuff on tires coming soon - I hope what I've already got is helpful. Thanks again :) (PS. I just watched my first Crawler Canyon video. Amazing, love it! Thanks for the tip!)
I have the JT4 and really enjoy it.
I really like the look of it - aside from being more top heavy, I gather this is the same vehicle as the AT4 - which is great, it's a brilliant platform. Good choice!
MY EMOs are coming on Friday!
Hey hey, that's great! You're gonna have a fun weekend 😊
@@RCTNT They're here! Also, sometimes I forget if I comment on your vids from my normal account or my channel account lol
All good, its easy to forget.
Glad they arrived. Enjoy!
I see you are using the fly sky gt5 How do you like it. ? I was going to get the futaba 4pm ($365) Canadian. But was also thinking about the sky fly for $120. How does it compare?
I have both of these radios. Based on user experience over the last few years, I'd still buy the Flysky if the Futaba was the same price.
Be aware that the throttle got a little loose on the first GT5 I had but it was used for 7 or 8 models in all weather for several years before that happened! I have another and I'm still ahead on outlay over the Futaba. Receivers are cheaper too!
@@RCTNT ok thank you for the honest reply. Are the features similar to the futaba?
@@joerutkowsky3261 they're pretty similar but each model has its own special tricks. I personally like the button, 3 way switch and two dials on the GT5. I like the fs-a3 and fs-a6 as really cheap receiver options - you don't have to only use the gyro enabled one it comes with.
The Futaba does one big thing the GT5 doesn't - and that is mixing, which is the ability to make other channels respond in pre-set ways when you manipulate any particular channel. It gives you granular control over what everything does and how it does it in relation to what other channels are doing. The GT5 doesn't do this, which is partially why it's cheaper.
Bottom line, if you don't need mixing, get the GT5. It's programming interface is much simpler because it doesn't need to take mixing into account, so that's another plus if you just want a simple radio with individual channels and nothing more complex than that.
If you need mixing, the Futaba line is just one of several to consider. Hope this helps!
@@RCTNT it does thank you.
Awesome 😎
Is that the factory at4 body or is that made to look more like a blazer?
It's how it came, plus my paint job. Everything is stock. It's a bit of a blend between a Blazer and Bronco but it isn't licensed. It's pretty though, eh!
@@RCTNT I’m interested in the At4 so I’ll try to paint it then. I thought the bumper came attached to the chassis not the shell body?
@@Christ_AlphaOmega that's right, it's separate: photos.app.goo.gl/sXfg1511cgvnGdTx6
Perfect
Привет! Как at4 показала себя по надёжности? Есть запчасти на него? И как по цене обслуживание в сравнении с rgt? Спасибо!) Выбираю между ex86190 и at4) может посоветуете) видео шикарное 🔥🔥🔥
Благодарю вас! EX86190 - это RTR, а приемник и световой комплект не являются водонепроницаемыми. На AT4 вы строите его, поэтому у вас больше контроля над тем, что в него входит. Подвижные части обеих машин надежны и прочны. Вам придется искать запчасти для них в вашем районе, но мне пока ничего не нужно ни для одной машины. Если бы у меня была только одна из них, я бы выбрал АТ4. Но оба очень хороши.
@@RCTNT огромное спасибо!🙌
Рад помочь! Удачи с покупкой!
@@RCTNT для гряземеса offroad также at4 лучше?) Если доработать вес, шины, диски на обоих)
Это зависит от выбранной вами электроники. Обе машины будут нуждаться в обслуживании после езды по грязи. Оба сделают это. Ни один из них не подходит для грязи. Больше движущихся частей, больше повреждений. Просто лучше для грязи
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Cool vidio 👍🙏🙏
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Thank you!
Bronco all day :) oh wait...(if it's not a "competition" vehicle, it's probably ok not to include reverse in the points imho ;)
Reverse points help with assessing vehicle nimbleness. More reverses implies it was harder to get the rig to turn where/how I wanted it to, so they're an important part of the test (with the caveat that it's for entertainment primarily and indicative rather than diagnostic for performance!). Thanks for watching and for your thoughts here!
@@RCTNT yeah yeah :) great driving, great vehicles to boot. Love your office :)
@@jeffsrcchannel2191 heh, hadn't thought of it like that. Thanks :)
@@RCTNT My play through list of awesome RC crawling videos, yours always makes it. I have only one video due to me running through puddles with the Defender and frying the electronics. (Traxxas electronics are just junk...sigh). I ordered the RC6GS transmitter with gyro 2 months ago, it came in day, this afternoon. Aussie post lost it :) The motor is a Hobbywing QuicRun Fusion 1800KV Motor & ESC 2-in-1, just wow, what a combo, magic. 10wt shock oil transforms the Defender out of sight. Cheers :) th-cam.com/play/PLmEJldyRghcPTQuFIeDLJDf6QgnA915uH.html
@@jeffsrcchannel2191 sorry you've had some troubles there! The Fusion is a ripper, eh! I'll check your video out later today. Cheers :)
Lol driver...